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Jaguars Happy Hour | Can Jaguars Leverage Competition to Create Accountability? · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October seventeenth. This is Jackwar's happy hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now a guy who loves the band Oasis so
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  Speaker 1: much he owns the Champagne Chevy Nova. Brian Sexton Oasis.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard of them. I heard they were on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: Night Live. That's about all I know about him, though.
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  Speaker 1: And I did have a Chevy Nova and it was
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  Speaker 1: not age for a year. It was a nineteen seventy three.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that was the great year for the nova.
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  Speaker 1: Chevy Nova.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't lime green, and it wasn't a rich green.
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  Speaker 1: It was sort of a faded green.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of an avocadosh green.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It didn't have the big engine.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't would would you have the straight six center or something?
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  Speaker 1: My dad didn't want me to have something that was
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  Speaker 1: going to get him in a lot of trouble with
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  Speaker 1: the insurance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get you, but I liked it. Speaking
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  Speaker 2: it was one of the hot rods.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Well listen, if I'd had my way,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been yeah. But instead I sort of
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  Speaker 1: slow pedaled it and I got here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this team is slow pedaling right now. Speaking of
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  Speaker 2: slow pedaling.
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  Speaker 1: How are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Yeah, it's good to be seeing. We're
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  Speaker 2: at the grove here.
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  Speaker 1: We are at the grove.
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  Speaker 2: Is this considered London or is this considered not London?
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  Speaker 1: If this is considered Watford. Okay, so we're on the
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  Speaker 1: We're about an hour and ten minute Uber ride to
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  Speaker 1: your hotel down.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm staying in downtown London.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be staying at the door Chester, I imagine.
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  Speaker 2: I no, no, I would be at the Hilton Pool,
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  Speaker 2: which is which if you look at like Google, which
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  Speaker 2: everybody does nowadays, and you look at the ratings, the
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  Speaker 2: ratings of the hotel that I'm at is like three stars. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The hotel that Biseli's ats like five stars. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: just kidding either the same.
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  Speaker 1: Hotel and this place is a five star place.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: It's on three hundred acres. It's beautiful of an old
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  Speaker 1: English country estate. And I am told and I believe
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  Speaker 1: this is absolutely true. There is a black oak tree
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  Speaker 1: on the grounds that was presented by Captain Cook to
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  Speaker 1: the Lord of the Manor when he returned from one
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  Speaker 1: of his visits to the New World.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about the Captain the captain, captain of the ship,
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  Speaker 2: Captain Cook.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was planted here on the grounds, and
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's still back that way somewhile.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing. There's a lot of houstory here, so
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  Speaker 2: the whole grounds thing here is amazing. It reminds me
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Virginia, you know, the broken rolling hills
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  Speaker 2: farm ground kind of thing. But I got a question
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  Speaker 2: for you, and and maybe somebody can help me out.
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  Speaker 2: So I take an uber out here today, me and
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  Speaker 2: Frank Frangie and Frank had some stuff to do out
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  Speaker 2: here as well, so we rode in the car together.
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  Speaker 2: We're walking in this hallway and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: up on this wall is like a projection, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a naked guy in the garden, okay, walking around and
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  Speaker 2: these jouring and I'm going, what the world is going on?
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  Speaker 1: He should take a left hand turn and see if
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  Speaker 1: it was a mirage.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody helped me out. What's something with the with the
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  Speaker 2: naked guy walking in the garden on a projector here
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  Speaker 2: at the grove?
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  Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know. And I've walked the garden not
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  Speaker 1: looking for that guy, but I've walked the garden a
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  Speaker 1: lot this week and it's I haven't seen it. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it projected here.
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  Speaker 2: I've just tried to understand what the whole purpose of
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  Speaker 2: that was. Anyway, just it's eccentric. Sometimes when your team
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  Speaker 2: is one in five, you gotta have a little multiculvity, right.
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  Speaker 1: I have walked there's it's a three hundred acre property
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  Speaker 1: and they've got about a four and a half mile
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  Speaker 1: loop through the Whippindale wood. Is that what it's called
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  Speaker 1: the Whippindale wood? Whipping whippin'dell would? Yeah. Anyway, it's a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful piece of property. The jaguars like to stay here
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  Speaker 1: because it's a short walk across the parking lot to
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  Speaker 1: a field where they practice. They've got great facilities for
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  Speaker 1: them put up here. Yeah, and the food is outstanding.
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night was Tomahawk Night, Tomahawk Ribbi, Tomahawk Ribbi night.
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  Speaker 2: It was wine. Did they stay that they didn't? Did
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  Speaker 2: you bring your own? I did not.
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  Speaker 1: I was told that was not permitted. So I enjoyed.
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  Speaker 2: I would have one.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the meat, and we'll hopefully get out to
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  Speaker 1: London before the week is out and enjoy some of the.
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  Speaker 2: One it's still there, and it's still the same, very
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  Speaker 2: busy and a lot of people, I will tell you
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people. Yeah yeah, but it's I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: to be home, all right, I'm ready to be home.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that this football team can find a
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  Speaker 2: way to get a win before they return.
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  Speaker 1: All right. When they return, by the way, they'll face
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  Speaker 1: the Packers. That is a week from Sunday on ten
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven. It does. It starts a tough stretch with
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  Speaker 1: the Packers, the Eagles, and the Vikings. That's the crucial
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  Speaker 1: catch game, by the way, And you can get your
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  Speaker 1: tickets at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or dialing up
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  Speaker 1: nine oh four six three three two thousand. But before
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  Speaker 1: we get there, the Jaguars have a chance to win
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday against the new England Patriots team that is
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  Speaker 1: rebuilding with a rookie quarterback that's lost five consecutive games.
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  Speaker 1: Said to rather prizing opening day win in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: Beat Cincinnati, I mean, and they won scoring sixteen points. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not exactly Joe Burrow's best day. Right now.
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  Speaker 1: They get some problems in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: Too, yes, But you know, here's the reality, the New
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  Speaker 2: England Patriots are coming over here to London feeling confident
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  Speaker 2: that they can get a win. I mean, that's where
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars are at right now. I mean, look, this
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars football team.
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  Speaker 1: It don't scare anybody.
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  Speaker 2: One of the worst teams in football, Okay, Carolina Panthers,
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns, New England Patriots, and who am
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  Speaker 2: I missing? There's one other team somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 1: With me in the misery that we've been and I've
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  Speaker 1: just been focused on this team.
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  Speaker 2: And you know because and the reason I say that
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  Speaker 2: is that when when you're playing and you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: get out of a hole, you have to be able
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  Speaker 2: to be real and you have to accept where you
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  Speaker 2: are so you know how to get where you want
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is this a bad team or
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  Speaker 1: is this a team playing badly?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's bothy, I mean, because I mean the
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  Speaker 2: reality is you are who you are, and you are
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  Speaker 2: who your what your record says you are, and right now,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they are. Do they have the talent to
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  Speaker 2: be better than this? Absolutely? Do they have the talent
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  Speaker 2: to be undefeated?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so could they be.
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  Speaker 1: Three and three. Yeah, you could just be one of those.
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  Speaker 1: You could just be like the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: If they're a little bit more mentally tough. And to
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  Speaker 2: use Trevor's term, what did he use?
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  Speaker 1: He said, We've got to stop hi fragile.
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  Speaker 2: We're fragile. Well, if you're a little bit more mentally tough,
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  Speaker 2: then maybe you can win that game in Miami when
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  Speaker 2: you turn the ball over, Hey, no big deal, sudden change,
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  Speaker 2: let's go, we'll get it back. Didn't do that. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little bit mentally tougher as far as winning the
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  Speaker 2: game against uh, the Buffalo Bills and get excited for
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  Speaker 2: a Monday night football game, and they didn't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't he really show up in that ball game? You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just disappointing that this team is where it is.
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  Speaker 2: And the reality is until you start playing better across
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  Speaker 2: the board, you're not gonna win. Because right now, this
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  Speaker 2: defense is one of the worst defenses in football period.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the worst defenses in football offensively,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at it from a point standpoint, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: right now in the National Football League, you're twenty second points,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and that's with a first overall pick quarterback
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  Speaker 2: of Super Bowl coach you know, offensive mind, first round
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  Speaker 2: pick wide receiverteen passes last year, ten two free agent
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers. I mean, look, you gotta be scoring more
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  Speaker 2: points than that, you know. So they are where they are.
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  Speaker 2: But again, the New England Patriots are coming into this
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  Speaker 2: game this week and they're feeling really good about where
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  Speaker 2: they are. Look, we've got a young quarterback who led
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  Speaker 2: us to our best points total of the year, was tough,
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  Speaker 2: stood in the pocket with a beat up offense of line,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think that gives them confidence coming over here,
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  Speaker 2: is that they're facing a team they believe that they
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  Speaker 2: can beat. And then also they had a performance against Houston.
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  Speaker 2: Although the game got away early, they battled back in
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  Speaker 2: that ball game.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So take me back to the mentally tough thing.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever been on a team that you think
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  Speaker 1: was where this team is mentally right now?
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately? Yes. I mean when I was in New York.
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  Speaker 2: When I was in New York, I was with a
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  Speaker 2: couple of football teams that we just weren't mentally tough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we just couldn't We couldn't handle anything bad
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  Speaker 2: in a game because we just didn't have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to overcome, and I think that's part of being mentally tough.
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  Speaker 2: Part of that also is that we really didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of talent up there. But this team here
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  Speaker 2: in Jacksonville is not supremely talented, but they have enough talent,
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  Speaker 2: especially offensively, to bounce back. For example, you know this
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  Speaker 2: pass game, you get an interception by Cisco Okay offense,
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  Speaker 2: You've got enough talent build on that momentum in the
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  Speaker 2: ball game, and then you know, score points and I
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  Speaker 2: think they end up going three and out on the
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  Speaker 2: following drive. I mean, that's that you can't do that,
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  Speaker 2: especially when that side of the ball has the amount
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  Speaker 2: of talent, because I believe the offense is talented enough
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  Speaker 2: to be a really good football team.
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  Speaker 1: And then the defense turned around and did it to
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  Speaker 1: them in the third quarter. Trevor hit the touchdown pass
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  Speaker 1: to make it twenty one to ten, and the defense
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  Speaker 1: Josh and Trayvon Walker.
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  Speaker 2: Would you call that complimentary bad football? I would call
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  Speaker 2: it it's good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of what it is, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the unit didn't respond to something positive by the other.
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  Speaker 1: First and third down, you get sacks and you give
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  Speaker 1: it away with that.
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  Speaker 2: Where you want to be. But that's where this football
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  Speaker 2: team is right now. And Ryan Nielsen's look, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he was brought in to improve a defense and right
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  Speaker 2: now hadn't done it.
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  Speaker 1: So did the Jets team ever switch around? Did it?
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  Speaker 1: Did the mental switch ever kick in? And no? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: So then that's why I ended up at Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: So the only team that I can tell you, I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing something, guys, I don't know, maybe you can help
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  Speaker 1: me with it. I'm hearing some conversation in the background.
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  Speaker 1: So my point is the ninety six team, were you,
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  Speaker 1: guys mentally tough when you were four and seven? We
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  Speaker 1: did winning change that we were tough? Okay, I know
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  Speaker 1: you were tough because Tom says that's the toughest.
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  Speaker 2: Ninety five and ninety six. I think we were tough.
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  Speaker 2: Is there's any team I think in football we did
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  Speaker 2: in ninety five. We didn't have a lot of talent
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  Speaker 2: in ninety six. We were still trying to figure it out,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And that's so it wasn't that wasn't a team when
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  Speaker 1: things were going poorly, and man, they were going poorly
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  Speaker 1: at one point where it wasn't mentally.
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  Speaker 2: We never had that mentality to war in ninety six
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  Speaker 2: that I think is what you're talking about, because we
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  Speaker 2: ended up turning around. We never had the mentality early
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  Speaker 2: on in ninety six that we were like, Okay, something
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  Speaker 2: bad happened. We were like, ah, there we go again.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We never had that.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a tough team. It just wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 2: We were learning, we were learning how to be a
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  Speaker 2: good team, and also we were developing. And uh, this
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  Speaker 2: football team right now is past the point of developing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it, it's just got to perform. So if
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  Speaker 2: you're Doune Peterson, it's frustrating. If you're Dug Peterson, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You say, what can you do well?
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's where you know, leadership matters, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's not easy for a head coach to
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  Speaker 2: deal with that because you don't want to end up
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  Speaker 2: having a team completely close their ears if all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden you're you know, you're pounding the fist and
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  Speaker 2: yelling and screaming. But at the same token, there's got
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  Speaker 2: to be a level of accountability across the board for you,
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  Speaker 2: the entire football team. And and I think that this
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  Speaker 2: team is at the point now that Doug needs to
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  Speaker 2: seriously consider who's playing and who's not in percentage of
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  Speaker 2: playtime for certain guys and certain guys not.
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  Speaker 1: So we've reached that point where you don't just want
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  Speaker 1: to change for a knee jerk reaction. You want to
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  Speaker 1: see things through to a point.
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  Speaker 2: It needs to be measured. We're past that, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: it needs to be measured. And if you make a
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  Speaker 2: change for somebody's level of play, that's not acceptable. Okay
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  Speaker 2: you make you need to make that change, regardless of
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  Speaker 2: sometimes what's behind that. So in other words, okay, if
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  Speaker 2: you if you don't play player A, and okay, behind
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  Speaker 2: curtain B, you have two players. Sometimes it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: how good those players are behind Curtin B. You're just
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  Speaker 2: putting some one of those guys in just because you
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure that player A is accountable that
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  Speaker 2: his level of play is not good enough. Okay, you
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  Speaker 2: see what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I totally see what you're saying, and and can give
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  Speaker 1: you an example.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you don't do that, then where's the accountability
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  Speaker 2: for that player A to raise his level of play
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  Speaker 2: to where he can play at.
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  Speaker 1: Do they have the ability to do that this week?
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  Speaker 1: With the cornerback right? Because you're gonna get Tyson Campbell
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  Speaker 1: back and Monteric Brown has played pretty well? Could could
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  Speaker 1: you send the message to Ronald Darby? It's that's a.
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  Speaker 2: Little different though, because you know, in that instant, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: player A is Darby okay, not playing great? Okay, and
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  Speaker 2: then you got Tyson Campbell coming back, okay, well behind
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  Speaker 2: curtain C. It's not really even behind a curtain anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Monteric Brown is playing playing good, Yeah, playing
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  Speaker 2: better okay than Darby?
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  Speaker 1: Right in my opinion, I think so too.
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  Speaker 2: So if Tyson comes back, I think the obvious move
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  Speaker 2: there and it's a it's a relatively easy move. Tyson
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  Speaker 2: comes back, he plays at his typical spot, right corner,
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  Speaker 2: move Monteric Brown over to left corner. See how it goes.
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  Speaker 2: And then you're gonna rotate maybe Darby a little bit
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  Speaker 2: in there as well. And I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: ratio is gonna be. Is it one to one or
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  Speaker 2: is it you know, two to one with two for
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  Speaker 2: Monteric one for Darby.
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  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. It's not the same as
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  Speaker 1: pulling someone out of the lineup and rein putting someone
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  Speaker 1: else into the lineup to replace them, because it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's a matter of a guy that was already playing.
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  Speaker 2: And and and here here's the other thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'll bring it up an example on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball, Okay, okay, And so people may be
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  Speaker 2: surprised by this, Okay, right now, Anton Harrison did not
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  Speaker 2: play very well this past game. You know, my level
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  Speaker 2: of expectation for an Anton Harrison his level of play
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  Speaker 2: should be up here. Okay. Well, his level of play
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  Speaker 2: this past game was down here. Okay. The two previous
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  Speaker 2: games he was pretty good. Okay, but this open the
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  Speaker 2: season his level of play was down here. Well, you'd
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  Speaker 2: have to have a conversation with Anton saying, hey, look,
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  Speaker 2: your level of play needs to be up here. And
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  Speaker 2: because it's not, we're gonna play Walker a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: Walker Little a little bit more in this ball game.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe rotates you, guys, because until we see your level
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  Speaker 2: of play back here, you know, we're gonna play Walker little.
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  Speaker 2: And and I think that, in my opinion, Anton Harrison
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  Speaker 2: is a better player than Walker Little. But it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter because the production doesn't meet the expectation. There So,
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  Speaker 2: therefore you need to have accountability.
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  Speaker 1: So that accountability leads to mental toughness because guys have
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  Speaker 1: to get inside their own head and square them.
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  Speaker 2: Say, determine. Am I going to be better? Okay? Am
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  Speaker 2: I going to commit to be better? Am I going
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  Speaker 2: to perform better? Am I gonna have more attention to detail,
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  Speaker 2: more focus? You don't know the guy. I'll throw another
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  Speaker 2: guy out there and needs to be better for this
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  Speaker 2: football team. Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd needs to be better
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  Speaker 2: for this football team. Some of those open throws that
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  Speaker 2: happened in this past game, you know, we're some breakdowns.
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  Speaker 2: He needs to be better, you know. And you don't
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of options at linebacker because Foyer right
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  Speaker 2: now is on injury reserve. But you have Chad Moveman,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: you have Ventre Miller, and so maybe you've reduced the
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: percentage of snaps that Devin Lloyd gets and maybe increase
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the number of snaps that Ventro Miller and Chad Mouvema get.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Don't you think Ventrol Miller should be on the field
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: a lot more.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna know, he has some breakdowns too, He's
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: still a young player that's still trying to figure some
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: things out. He plays with great energy and he attacks forward,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: but in coverage there are moments that you know, you go,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: that wasn't very good, you know, but also that's part
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: of experience, and you know he needs this more time
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: on tasks, so to speak. Uh, but that's an interesting equation.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: There is there time.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: But again let me just real quick, Okay, regardless of
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: who you have behind the guy. Again, this goes to accountability. Okay,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: if the person that is in the starting role and
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: is not meeting the expectation here, then you, regardless of
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: who's behind or next guy up, you look at playing
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: that next guy to let the player know from an
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: accountability standpoint, that's not where we expect your level of
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: play and where you should be. So until you can
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: get it back up in there, we're gonna play somebody
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: else to see if maybe they can do it, regardless
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: of whether you believe they can or not.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: If Doug pull some of those moves right, if he
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: makes some strategic changes, if they have a good week
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: on the practice field, if they go out and win
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, is there time for this team to go
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: from not mentally tough from fragile to mentally tough before
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: this season is over, yes, okay.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: But is it gonna happen fast enough for this team
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: can get to the point where they're going to be
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: able to meet the expectations prior to the season right
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: now that you know, look, here's the reaction.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You're gonna meet expectations.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: The expectations were high, really high, okay.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But here you have to win eleven games to meet expectations.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And if you and if you can find a way
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: just to get back into the playoff conversation, find a way, great.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: But in reality, in my I'm not saying that to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: my players if I'm Dougan, because right now, that's man,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: that's way too big of a meal to eat. Okay,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to be able to climb out of a hole, it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: got to be one bite at a time, and you
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: gotta worry about this one bite this week against the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: New England Patriots and try to find a way to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: win this one.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought I had a manageable expectation of
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: this team, you know, on the flight over, I thought,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: if they could win these two ball games and come
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: home three and four, you have a chance with a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: big game against the Packers in the end of October.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Now you go into November. If you're four and four, okay,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you're on some stable ground, go battle. But they dropped
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: themselves back with the loss, and not just the loss,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: but the way that they lost and put themselves in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a position where I'm not sure even if they went
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: on a on a winning streak here and one, two, three,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: four ball games.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it may not be enough. All right, it may
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: not be enough, but it would it would make things
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: feel better.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it would be something that you could build
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and get this team some confidence.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: They need something. Do you remember when they were rating
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: three last year and everybody was talking about them as
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: being the best team in football?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Doesn't that seem like yeah, it seems like.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: A long time ago. But here's the reality. I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: it's you know, what is it two and ten since then? Yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you know, And if you want to be a franchise
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that is one of the elites, this up and down
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: one good year, two bad years, that's not how That's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: not where you want to be. I mean, that's not
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: where Seat Cohn wants this franchise to be, you know.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And so you know, and I understand that. You know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: there was a vote of confidence given to Doug Peterson
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and to Trent Balkey this past week. But the reality
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: is is that that's not the level of expectation that
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: shot Com has for this football team. And Doug will
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: tell you, I mean, we're gonna talk to him here
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: in a little bit. He'll tell you, look, accountability and
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: expectation with coaches. I mean, he gets it. He's been
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: around this league a long time. He knows Trent Balkey knows.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: That, all right. So the way it is, when we
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: come back here to Happy Hour on ten ten xl
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: in ninety two point five FM, we'll talk a little
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: bit about the week that's been at the Grove outside London,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: some of the buzzwords we're hearing news about Roy Robertson, Harris,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Roy Robertson, Harris's trade and how that affects the roster.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You are listening to Happy Hour back after this on
• 19:43
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• 20:07
  Speaker 1: from the grove here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Some buzzwords
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: this week, guys talking about focus and accountability. It's talk
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: at this point, but apparently let's go back two weeks
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: before the Colts game, which was the game where Tom
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Kauflin was inducted into the Pride of the Jaguars. Doug
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: was asked a question at his news conference, can you
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: coach with the same style that Tom Kauflin did that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: no nonsense, exacting, demanding you know what, I don't have
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to tell you anything about it. Doug's answer was revealing
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: because he said that day I was coached that way, right,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I mean Shula and Holmgren and read that was the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: way that he came up in the game. But he
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: didn't think that with the modern athlete, that you could
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: go after guys and front of their peers in the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: meeting room and hold them accountable the way that that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Doug and guys of your era were held accountable. But
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I heard he did some of that on Monday. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: heard he was I don't want to use the word aggressive,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: but he was very assertive and held guys accountable.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think there's an art to doing that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: You know, Coffin wasn't very good at the art form
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: of it. He was, you know, he was very direct
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and playing. But you know, then there's other coaches, which,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: trust me, folks, Tom Kaufin what the greatest coaches of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: all time. Okay, I'm not meeting him in any way whatsoever.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But I think there's also others that do it in
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: a different way, but they accomplished the same thing. Like Parcells,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: who was an old school guy. He had a masterful
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: way of holding guys accountable in that fashion just because
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: he had a little bit better tongue, so to speak,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, He was a little bit
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: more gifted at the gap. You know, Tom wasn't extremely
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: gifted at the gap, whereas Parcels had a gift of gas.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: He had a very sharp win.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: He was charming but then very sharp in a lot
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of ways.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: How Pete Carroll do it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Pete was very different. Pete was never Pete would hold
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: guys accountable, but in a positive, cheery sense. It was
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: kind of weird, you know, But you know, I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: also Pete grew into that and that Pete when he
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: left the NFL went to FC, I think he learned
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a lot about what the modern day NFL coach needs
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to be and and also where accountability needs to be at.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I think he really grew in that aspect. But yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I mean it's if Doug did that on Monday, that's great,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: you know. And you talk about buzzwords, I mean, there's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: two buzzwords that came out of this past game that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that made me concerned and that you better get a
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: handle on this number One was quit from Andre Cisco.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: The other word was culture from Doug himself. And when
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I heard that those words were used postgame, I went
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: so alarms were going off, right, because when you hear
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: those two words, you wonder, now, where is this team at,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: where is it psyche at? Where's the leadership at? And
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and Doug was right in this week and that look,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: he needs to start making sure that guys are held accountable.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And you know, it is what it is, and you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: hopefully they can get this thing kind of turned around
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But when I heard when I heard
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: those two words, I was like, oh, no, quit, culture,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Now where is this team gonna go from here? Because
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it's pretty low.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: You know, can you connect? The one in five finished
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the last season to the one and five beginning to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: this season, yes, you see it contiguously. In other words,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: twelve games, two wins, and.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Look, I get that. You know at the beginning of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the year, when Doug Peterson was at about that and that,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: he said, look, it's a different year as a new team. Yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: but you know, yeah, but there's a lot of players
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that are on this team from last year. And yes,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: you're trying to get things going again, and but a
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: lot of the same guys.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, they brought in Eric Armstead and gave David that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: They haven't had the impact that they really haven't had
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the impact from a performance standpoint for this football team,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: with the exception of Mitch Morse, who's made this offensive
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: line a little bit better.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But when they when they signed him, one of the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: things that Doug went out of his way to say
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: was that they were bringing in guys who had been
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: there and done that, right, who had played at a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: high level Pro Bowls play.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter. And let me let me sell
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you this, Brian, and not to jump on you a
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: little bit there, but it doesn't matter what players did.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: It matters what they do now. And Okay, so if
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the player comes in and he's performing well, then there's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a lead aspect of it. If the player comes in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and is not performing well, there is no leadership because
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the players, the guys are looking at that guy going
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: he's dropping balls or you know, he's getting play time
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and he's not getting any productivity. And so then then
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the players close their ears to those guys. In the NFL,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: it's it's a fact. If you don't have production, then
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you cannot lead. Okay, write it down. It's going to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: be true forever in the National Football League. If you
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: don't have production, you cannot lead.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Does Trevor Lawrence have enough production to be able to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: lead this team?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: He does because of the position and because at moments
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: he performs at a very high level.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, but not enough, not enough.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: He's got to be better in his performance so that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: then he can lead.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So who in this locker room today, based on your valuation,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Jeff can lead well.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: And that's the hard part. You look at the guys
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: that are performing well, and how many guys are performing
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: well for this football team. Mitch Morris is performing well.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: If he stands up and so something, guys are going
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to listen. You know, Cam Robinson along the offensive line,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: who has been kind of that energetic leader in the past.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: For this offensive line performance has just been it's been
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: better lately but kind of okay, But not where you
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: want to see him hit a top night in Buffalo.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I want to see him finish, you know. And that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: one of the things that he can do. It doesn't
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: matter about talent, but that the level of finish is
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: an effort thing and just a decision that's consciously made,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know, Christian Kirk, you know, I mean, look, he
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: didn't start the year out particularly great, right, Evan Ingram
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: got hurt early on, etn been kind of lead.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Based on what he did on Sunday back on the turf.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: It kind of takes it a little away, a little bit,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you know, because that's like the ultimate mistake you can
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: make as a players, to turn the ball over, you know. So,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I mean that's the hard part. And so when you're
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: not playing well and your players aren't performing well, then
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the coaches need to lead even more.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: How about the defensive side, which players Wait, wait real quick,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you've been talking a lot off the air about Brenton
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Strange can lead or is he too young?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: No, I think he can lead because Brenton Strange has
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: been dependable, I mean, playing and play out. But the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: problem is is that his role isn't big enough to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: where he can be a front of the room guy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: People who are listening might not be surprised. Why why
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: would you bring up Breton Strange? You love it, he's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: playing his preer end off. I want to make sure
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I make a mistake there, you know. I mean he's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: playing really hard and he's finishing really well. And you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: every every week, you know, I do a when I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: do my film study, and it's right back there with
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: my little notepad, and yeah, you grab that notepad because
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to show people something. So every week when
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I study film, you know, I make notes on plays
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: good or bad. And so this is my list and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you'll probably try to focus in on, you know, by
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: pausing and all that kind of stuff. But there's good
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: plays in the there's bad plays, Okay, Then off to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the side over here. Okay, these are the bad place
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the ones that were very costly for this football team.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: And that's that's quite a bit. Okay, But there's even
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: more bad plays that are in here. This section right
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: here is Brenton Strange plays that are just like, holy
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: how this guy can play ball and finishes and he's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: nasty and he's tough and he then he's playing winning football.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: There's not any other player that has his own section
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: on my notepath. Okay, and Brent then that's a problem.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: There's one guy that has his own section, and you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: can you know, I'd like to have like five guys
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: right here, you know, like Brenton Strange and Trevor Lawrence
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Wild plays right there. Oh, here's Christian Kirks Wild plays.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Here's Josh Heinz Allen great plays. I mean, that's that's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: what you're looking for before we go to break. Who
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: can lead on defense.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Josh Heines Allen Ken. But you know Josh to raise
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: his level of play too, you know, I mean he's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: you know, got dinged up a couple of games ago,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you know, had the concussion Pro protocol and then he
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: was wearing the Guardian cat the next game. This past game,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: he didn't have it on. Impact wasn't felt in great fashion.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And I can tell you this this week, his impact
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: had better be felt, better be felt. The New England
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Patriots offensive tackles. What if they missing if they're missing
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: low their left tackle.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not very good. Brian Trayvon Walker was miked up.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I heard some of it this week. You can catch
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: it on Jaguars social media channels.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Can he lead, yeah, I mean he can lead.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: He was talking a lot, but he's trying to keep
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: guys moving.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: He's and and that's a good thing. And I like Trayvon.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: He's been playing better now. He had a little bit
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: of a couple of games where he's pretty quiet, but
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: this pass game he played well. Game four that he
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: played well. So that's what you want to see. Now,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: that's you know, when you want to be an elite player.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: It's not a sometime thing. It's an all the time thing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And Trayvon's getting better, but he's not there yet.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: All right, This is Jaguars Happy. I were on ten
• 29:58
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• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a break and return. Much more to come from the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Grove outside London as the Jaguars are getting ready to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: take on the New England Patriots on Sunday at Wembley Stadium.
• 30:10
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• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if you just get enough of
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a fuel for this library here at the grove. And
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: when I say Phil, I mean I don't know if
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you can see on the camera the wallpaper.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yes JP posted a photo of John oser In here
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: in his element yesterday writing up a storm in the
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: little corner of the library, and it's very very fitting
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: for John.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Like we're like in a live board game of Clue, right,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of getting a Camo feel to this.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I like it, of course, Jo.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Does it not have a little I mean came.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it shows, but the curtains are
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the exact same fabric as the wallpaper, so it very
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: much blends together.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: They're kind of of a Monet and then you've got
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: sort of the Picasso on the pillows and hanging on
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the walls.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know about money or any of that. But
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking mossy oak and real tree on
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: this camera. That's what I'm thinking.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Listen. You always just keep it real, big boy, You
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: just keep it really well.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You know. I do kind of get the sense that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: we should have like a pipe and be smoking.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I got my teacup and saucer out the other day.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I had a teacup with a saucer, talk about whether.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Where's the crazy thing we actually all around us? This
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: is no joke.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: It's prepped for tea. We have the sugar cubes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: There's literally sugar cubes on every table in the room.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Somebody tell me why for tea time?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: They have tea time in here is tea time?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: All like twenty four to seven?
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Did do it every day.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I think if you'd like it, we could make a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: twenty four to seven.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Now. I might need a little energy boost to finish
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the show out here. You know, we got Doug Peterson,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Iro and everything. I might have to start eating so
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: many sugar cubes here.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: At some point before the show's over.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: We're going to side like a spider monkey.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: It was mister Green who committed the murder with a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: rope in the conservatory or whether it was Missus Peacock
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: with Colonel Mustard.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: It's always Colonel Mustard in the library.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: We'll see did you play that game? Oh? Did you play?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Did love that game? Yeah?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: We still played it, Chris, I didn't play that game really?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I mean once about jumps out in the woods doing stuff.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think I was outside.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: No board games. You could do it live here in
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the old man or at the grove. Uh. You guys
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: have all access coming up here in a couple of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: hours hower of it. Who's joining you? Two guests?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I believe a couple of guys. Yes, my favorite player.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: You have many favorite players coming.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Brent Strange.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Love him.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: You love him because he loves to block.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I love him because he plays every play to the whistle.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He's a football player.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: He is a football player.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: We got another football player do he's going to be
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: with us as well?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So does that mean he's close to coming back?
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: If they come on the show, I'm sure we will
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: discuss that today. We know he's been working his way back.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: When his original happened, original injury happened in training camp.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: They eyed around this time, so obviously he's been working
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: his way towards that, and I'm sure we will be
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: very excited whenever he is available to play and help
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: out the secondary.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Since you bring up Dewey, we were going to talk
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: about changes in this block anyway, and what has to change,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Let's start there in the secondary. And it isn't all
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: going to happen this week obviously because to Shaan Gibson
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: isn't going to be able to play on Sunday. Yeh.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And by the way, just wanted to mention something real
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: quick if the league hasn't made any kind of determination
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: on to Sean Gibson as of now. Yeah, okay, that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: which is Thursday, and it's not happening this week. A
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: lot of people like maybe thinking, oh, maybe it can
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: happen tomorrow.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: No, it would have happened on Tuesday.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing that I'm kind of wondering if
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: it didn't happen now when he was eligible to come
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: off of it, what's going on.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Also, they let him travel for this trip that was
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: approved because normally when you're suspending, not supposed to be
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: with the team, but they approved his travel to come
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: out here to potentially play in this game. So you
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: have to wonder something snagged up.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: In a mid to that and the approval happened quite
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: some time ago, I believe, right, you know, So I
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen there, but you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: we talk about the possible return of to Sean Gibson
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: off of that list, and then also the return of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Dewey Campbell, you know, Dewey, and I don't know if
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: he's going to be ready anytime soon or not. I mean,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have to kind of wait and see. But
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I will tell you the safety position is a spot
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: where if one of those two guys were available, they
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: would be probably put in the lineup in place of
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: who I think Antonio Johnson's struggling right now a little bit,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, Cisco hadn't been playing particularly well
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: this past game. He had his probably best game of
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the year, but prior to that, he had his moments too,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you know, in a new defense. I mean, look, I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: get it, but it's not like the concept completely changed
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: from last year. Now, Antonio Johnson, some of the demands
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and the expectations for him changed because last year when
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: he was playing, it was kind of in that nickel
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: role more than anything, and now they're asking him to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: play safety, which you know he's having a tough time
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Kai, what's your take on Cisco's comments last week about
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: guys quitting.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I took it necessarily as he
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: thought everyone was quitting.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I took it more as the end of the game,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: when things are out of hand, maybe people aren't playing
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to the end of the whistle, is how I took it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think he was saying it in the sense
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: that he didn't do it. I think it felt like
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a we need to not do that sort of situation.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And I think what was I at least understood of
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: it was it was emotion. And we'll talk about the
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: sun jag Zam. It's actually one of my topics I'm
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: bringing up is I would rather he care and is
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: noticing that and like, yes, I don't want complete infighting,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: but it's the apathy. It's the people that are like, oh,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: we'll figure it like that bothers me more than someone
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: getting upset and saying, hey, they were quitting. We need
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to play to the whist, so we need to do
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: this sort of thing. I would rather have that than
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: someone that's just like, oh, well, we'll figure it out
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: because they care, and at the end of the day,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: they care. Yes, it needs to be redirected in a
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: positive way, but I want someone that cares.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, quit can be can mean a lot of things,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you know, quick can mean that, Okay, I've given up
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: on trying to win this ball game and I'm.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Not going to go take it. That's why I ticket.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of how people took Cisco's comment. But
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: there are other quits, I mean, quits that I view
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: is not as bad. For example, I quit on this
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: play and I should have just continued to give great
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: effort until the end. And it's not that I just
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: felt like I that I wanted to quit on the plane.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think we can win. It's just I didn't
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: think I could make that play. Well, you know, if
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a perfect example, you go to the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: early part of the ballgame. Anton Harrison, a right tackle,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: quits on a block and his guy ends up smashing
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and running back. Well, don't quit on the block, keep
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: blocking to the whistle. Well, he's not quitting on the game,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and he's not quitting on his team. He just quit
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: too early on the play. As far as effort goes,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: So there's different definitions. And and you know, the one
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: thing about if you say something like that, you better
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: be man enough and strong enough to walk into that
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: locker room and own it, and also to back it up,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: because if you don't, then you're gonna have a tough
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: time in that locker room as a player.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I saw him this week. You didn't have a black
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: eye or bloody nose, so obviously he's tough enough to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: be able to handle that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And sometimes when when when a guy says something like
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: something like that, I'm okay with it, you know, just
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: because you know what, the status quo ain't working, you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: and if it just if it gets everybody riled up
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit and gets everybody to pay attention, good,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: let it, let it, let it happen. You know, it's
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: all good. What else has to change the performance of
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: everybody's got to get better? Here here, here, And I'll
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: give you a perfect example. Here's some things that are
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: very easily controllable. Okay, off of my list. Okay, here
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: we go again. On Okay, and I got some here.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Just real quick fall start fall start drop false start
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: personal PI call okay, P I call another drop, another drop,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: another drop. Those are easy, easily fixed things. Okay, awareness
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: on finishing play and toon Harrison. Okay, going back to
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: play number fourteen and the and the all plays real, Okay,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: finish the play. Maybe it gets another three yards. Well
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't make a difference on that play, but
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the next down, in the next down makes it more manageable,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: so it makes a difference. I mean, all of these
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: things that are controllable, make them better. That's easily fixable things. Now,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: can you fix where the guy gets the ball punched out?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Sure you can. There's another awareness thing. Two hands on
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the ball, right, have an ingram going down to the ground.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: He's got one arm on it. Should have covered it
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: up with two. No one he's going down to the ground.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Didn't do it. I mean, that's an awareness thing. That's
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: an easily fixable thing. Fix the things that are easily fixable.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: If you get beat. Okay, if Kay's a faster than
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: me and she runs by me and catches a touchdown
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: pass that happens, you know. I mean that's part of football.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Who fixes it?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: The players and the coaches. Okay, players first player, player, Well,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I think both. I mean I put them all in
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the same boat. Put them all in the same boat,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: because you know what, as coaches, you know, how many
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: takeaways does our defense have. This defense in the past
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: did a really good job with takeaways, okay, and er
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Mike Cole last year they were in great shaper. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: one of the big reasons why is I believe that
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the coaches, the coaches that they had, did a really
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: good job of coaching the awareness of takeaways. Okay, So
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: there's an example of look, you know, do a better
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: job of coaching the awareness of takeaways to this defense
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: right here, because right now they're not doing a good
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: enough job and the takeaways that they have or are
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: not good enough for this team to win.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: It's funny because when you talk to Ryan Nielsen and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: he's they talk about how it's a focus about how
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: they work on it every day.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it is as much as it
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: was last year. Last year it was I want to say,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: their sole focused was takeaways, and I remember I felt
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like the back half of the season the secondary had
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: issues probably that whole season as well, But if you
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: can get turnovers, it's less of a burden. And I
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: feel like because it just feels like that. Some of
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: the other teams we play, they march down the field,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: and when you're not getting a turnover at any point
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: you're on the field that entire time, they're getting tired.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: You can't sustain that for the entirety of a football game.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: So by the nature of getting able to get turnovers,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: that's what helped them before. And I don't know, because
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: you can't fully change personnel at this point in the season,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: that's what's really beneficial for them.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I heard from from members of the Bears media, from
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Chicago media that they are maniacal about the takeaways. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you can see the results stripping the ball, you can tell.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: But why isn't every defensive coordinator in the league then
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: maniacal about the takeaways? If that's the number one an
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: indicator over the course of a season, that that take
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: away giveaway racio.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: It's a matter of how much it's talked about, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: it just it's gotta be talked about in a greater fashion,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: with a greater emphasis and a more common amount of time.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, after points allowed, the next one on the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: list is takeaways.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: And they're dead last, I think in takeaways, aren't they dead?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Last right now, national go.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Back and look special teams, so yeah, they can't be
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: much above.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Twenty ninth twenty ninth and takeaways. But as the defense,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know because I mean they don't separate special
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: teams from so we got the extra one defensive.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, so jacks all actions the one hour editions
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a full hour from here, the lives are.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I might bring some tea for Jeff.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I'll drink tea. I mean, just put some of that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: sugar in there.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I'll be all throw some dirt the mossy oak that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you'll see out there.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Are we doing the show or in the same room?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I think we'll be here maybe?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Cool, get the vibes. I gotta wear my smoking jack
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yo velvet, the crushed velvet camo jacket.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let you bring out your texts time. Brad Bradmester,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: That's what it was. He had a cameo sport cut,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: which is like he was like my hero.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Listen. Yeah, and he had the truck on the big
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: wheels with the cbe radio.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Total redneck.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: God love him with six daughters. Uh, they couldn't refine.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Him, no, b Brad Brad is great, all right, we'll take.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: The break, come back, one final segment of Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and then we'll lead you right into the Doug Peterson Show.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: This is ten ten XL and ninety two point five FM.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: You're listening to Happy Hour on Jaguars Radio. All right,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: one final segment here on Jaguars Happy Hour on ten
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: ten XL and ninety two point five FM before we
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: transition into the Doug Paterson Show. Time for an injury
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: report presented by Baptist Health, changing Healthcare for Good. And
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: we're going to yesterday's report because the boys were quite
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: off the practice field yet all these guys were listed
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: as limited. Eric Armstead, who has been limited with a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: knee injury all year all year long, gave Davis with
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the shoulder stands out Evan Ingram. Obviously there they're cognitive
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that hamstring traves ETN is a hamstring and Tyson Campbell,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: who's working his way hamstring.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: That's going to be that's going to be the interesting one.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: There is Tyson Campbell. You know, let's go back last
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: year he had a hamstring other one.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cost him five games.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: And I talked to Tyson before the Bears game. A
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: little bit about it and how how was he feeling
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: and all of that, and he felt really positive about it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: He said it was a little different injury, and I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: not going to go into specifics because you know, you
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: don't want to do that, but he said it was
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a little different from his other one last year. But
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: even if it's a little bit different, the concern there
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: is last year when he came back after the one
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: last year, he wasn't the same player. And at one
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: point he actually kind of got demoted again and put
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: as an inactive player. I believe it was for a game,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: and then was brought back again a little bit later.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: You know, So where's he going to be at? You know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I mean you'd like to as soon while we get
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: him back and he's back one hundred percent, Well maybe
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: he's not.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Listen. You, more than anybody can speak to the mental
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: side of an injury, right about You talked at length
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: through the years about your knee and coming back from
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: ACL and how long it took you to get comfortable.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: But it's the same thing with a hamstring, right, maybe
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: even more so because those are much easier to injure
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: than an ACL.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Oh and do you trust it, you know, I mean,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: are you trusting it to open it up? And here's
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the here's one part with a hamstring, And and again
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a really many pulled muscles except for
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a growing when I played. I didn't have a hamstring
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: until I'm was old and way out of the game.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But with a hamstring and other injuries, when you're working
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: your way back, you're still not playing a game. So
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: in other words, what you're repping in practice and what
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you're repping with the trainers is it's not as sudden
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and as reactive as it is in a game, and
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: you're not put in some of these precarious body positions
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: that you are in a game.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Which is why guys with hamstrings and coaches in particular,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: are really particular about when.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you got to make sure that it's back.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: And look, he's been given a lot of time to
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: come back, But you know, until you see it, and
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: until you know, you don't know. So you know, fingers
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: crossed that he's going to be the same player that
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: he was prior to the injury, But you know, injury
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: has a way of determining that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know that we've talked enough about the quarterback.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: What is your magic play sheet there? Tell you about
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: how the quarterback played in a game in which the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Jaguars scored sixteen points and didn't play very well at all.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But what does he tell you about his chances of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: playing better this week?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I liked, I liked, I thought he played okay
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: this past game. But the reality is you still had
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the interception which should not have been thrown, and then
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you had the underthrown ball to Brian Thomas Junior. When
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you when you get opportunities like that and you've got
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that much separation, separation, you can't miss that, you can't
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And as a quarterback, and if you're gonna be the franchise, god,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: gotta make them. I mean, playing and simple. You have
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: to make those throws because when you don't, it'd be different. Brian.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: If it was okay, Brian Thomas Junior only had a
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: half a step and the defender were touching the arm
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: as Brian's catching it, and maybe the ball was just
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit out of location.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You hit the back of the defender it was two
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: steps off.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: That's fine, But when Brian's got five steps on a
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: guy and you vastly underthrow it to where the defender
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: can come up in there and then have a PBu
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: pass breakup. That's not okay.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Why does he do that?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't does he not trust? I think
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: part of it is is the confidence, and the more
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you have success, the more confidence that you have, the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: more you just unleash it. You just just let it
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: rip instead of thinking about it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Do you remember in twenty twenty one, which was just
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: an absolute train wreck of a season, you think, yeah, try,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I was starting to think of.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: This, by the way. I was just wondering, did you
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: have an urban moment there when you were trying to
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: pronounce Roy Robertson Harris's name?
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But I always got Harrison, which right, Roy Robertson Harrison.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: It's just a natural extension Robinson Harris. I have to
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: remind myself that I don't have to worry about it anymore.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: He would come in to his news conferences after games
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and on Wednesday, and he was supremely confident. He said,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I know the kind of player I am, I know
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: what my abilities are, and I know what I can do.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And back then it was easy to believe that because
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: our memory of him was all the years at Clemson
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and he had always done it. Do you suppose that
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: he still has that level of confidence or have some
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: ups and downs this season maybe edged a little that out.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: No, I think it has. I mean, look, this team
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: is there's two and ten and it's last twelve games
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and he's a big part of that. And you know,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: human nature is is that if you don't have success,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: then you start to have confidence issues. That's just part
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: of human nature. I believe that he's still a confident
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: player to some extent, but not a supremely confident I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: can win it, give me the ball mentality yet and
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: that takes time to do it, and also takes a
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: football team around him that in a coach that that's
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: helping all of that, And right now that's not happening.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: What would you take this has been? It's why that's
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: why this is the I'm calling this the unhappy hour.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I've heard you say that, and I thought it was
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: because I'm a most exciting not because he No, No,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: but listen, if Trevor walked in here and said, hey,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: you know, where's missus Green? Is the rope around here? Anywhere?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: If Trevor walked in here right now, and sat down
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: on that couch. What would you tell them?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I would ask him where's confidence is at? You know,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: where's your confidence at? How can you raise the level
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: of play of those guys around you? What is it
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: like in the huddle with your offensive lineman? What do
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you do with them away from practice in the building,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: because you know that's a big part of football too,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: you know, and I know that there's a lot that
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: has been written and Trevor's talked a lot about the
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: relationship that he has with Christian Kirk kind of away
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: from the field. You know, you got to have a
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: little bit of that with your offensive lineman too. You know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: he gets them blocking a little bit harder on every play.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, it's been fun.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to a happier hour.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get Doug Peterson a here and hopefully
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: we'll be a big embulent sunshine sort of smile.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Well, sunshines and rainbows are good, and I would like
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: to have two happy hours next week.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: From your lips to God's Ears and hopefully the coach
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: agrees with that. That's next, by the way, that Doug
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Peterson show. That'll do it for a happy hour. On
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  Speaker 1: ten ten XL and on ninety two point five FM
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: thanks to our entire broadcast crew and let's get our
• 50:08
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