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Real Housewife Margaret Josephs, Ultimate Betrayals and Reconciliations · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm going to try
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  Speaker 3: to give you some fun, juicy, good news. This is
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  Speaker 3: coming from the show Dish Nation. Apparently, Lisa Bonet and
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  Speaker 3: Jason Momoa were so sad when we heard they broke
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  Speaker 3: up because they just oozed sexuality and hotness. Well, apparently
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  Speaker 3: they are back living together last month. I heard he
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  Speaker 3: was like living in some rich friend of his RV,
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  Speaker 3: like a fancy RV near Topanga Canyon so he could
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  Speaker 3: be near his kids. Well, I guess he got out
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  Speaker 3: of the RV and apparently is living back with her
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  Speaker 3: and they're trying to make it work. So that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of sweet because you rarely, rarely.
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  Speaker 2: Hear that in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: But then in the same week, we hear that Ben
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  Speaker 3: Stiller and his wife, Christine Taylor, they.
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  Speaker 2: Have a couple kids.
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  Speaker 3: They announced they were breaking up or getting divorced. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if they ever filed or had attorneys or what.
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  Speaker 3: But now they're saying they never even dated other people.
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  Speaker 3: And now they are rekindling their marriage. So there's been
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  Speaker 3: a lot of COVID breakups. Maybe now that some of
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  Speaker 3: the states are lifting the mask mandates, maybe people... We'll
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  Speaker 3: chill the F out and give it one more chance
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  Speaker 3: to fall in love. Oh, I'm watching Love is Blind
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to get into details on Thursday's show
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  Speaker 3: once I'm finished with the series.
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  Speaker 2: So better catch up.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a couple of days to watch it because
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  Speaker 3: Justin Martindale and I are going to get into it.
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  Speaker 2: But as I was watching it.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my God, Peter, we should be
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  Speaker 3: so much more in love right now. All these people
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  Speaker 3: want is just to be married to And like have
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  Speaker 3: a partner. And like here all the married people are
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  Speaker 3: like miserable. There's whole shows about people that all they.
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  Speaker 2: Want to do is be married. If you're married, just
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  Speaker 2: know you're the envy of the world.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe if we start, maybe if us married people start
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  Speaker 3: walking around just knowing that we are the envy of
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  Speaker 3: every person that's on a reality show right now that
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  Speaker 3: wants to get married.
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  Speaker 2: We are their couple goals. Maybe we won't be so
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  Speaker 2: hard on ourselves. Speaking of getting married, Colton Underwood.
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  Speaker 3: He did a whole show where he was on The
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  Speaker 3: Bachelorette trying to get married. Then he became The Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: trying to get married. Then he finally came to his
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  Speaker 3: truth and got another show called Being Colton or something
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  Speaker 3: on Netflix that nobody talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, it was him coming out. Coming out Colton. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. And keeping up with Colton.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, he... Though, you know, came to his truth.
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  Speaker 3: Told his parents, who were conservative and you didn't think
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  Speaker 3: they'd accept it, that he is gay. Shortly, I think
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  Speaker 3: even before I could even watch one episode of the show,
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  Speaker 3: we found out he was already in love with this guy.
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  Speaker 2: He said he liked daddies.
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  Speaker 3: So that just means in the gay world, like just
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  Speaker 3: like a guy that's a little older than you, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: that could kind of be your dad.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Or look like a dad. They're engaged.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who asked whom, but they got engaged and...
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if this is going to be televised
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  Speaker 3: or anything. I don't know if they can get a
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  Speaker 3: deal at Kay Jewelers like that other gay couple did.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But because I have to say, I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: their show got a lot of buzz.
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  Speaker 2: And so good for them. Good for them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch what happens. They seem happy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: still so curious to know what happened to Cassidy. She
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  Speaker 3: absolutely didn't want to do any interviews when he came
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  Speaker 3: out as gay. She does not want to talk to me.
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  Speaker 3: But if you do, I would love to hear your
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  Speaker 3: perspective now because you were his fiance. You met him
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  Speaker 3: on the show and he was pretty awful to you
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  Speaker 3: because he wasn't facing his truth. But anyway, do you
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  Speaker 3: feel different? Does time heal the wounds of anger?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Jussie Smollett, you guys, his people.
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  Speaker 2: Are demanding that he get a new trial.
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  Speaker 3: They are saying that The verdict of him being found
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  Speaker 3: guilty of faking his own hate crime, wasting police resources,
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  Speaker 3: lying to the police. They're saying that this just isn't
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  Speaker 3: fair because they didn't get access to the jurors the
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  Speaker 3: way they think they should have. Basically what I gather
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  Speaker 3: is one juror had family that was in law enforcement
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  Speaker 3: and she was.
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  Speaker 2: Part of the jury.
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  Speaker 3: So I find this kind of interesting because I do
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  Speaker 3: remember someone saying to me many years ago, if you
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  Speaker 3: ever get called for jury duty and you want to
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  Speaker 3: get out of jury.
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  Speaker 2: Duty, just say that you have a lot of law.
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  Speaker 3: Enforcement in your family and chances are the defense won't
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  Speaker 3: want you on the jury. But I mean, I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's dumb. I think people can be unbiased.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, if you're going to just exclude everybody
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  Speaker 3: for any possibility that they might be sympathetic to one
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  Speaker 3: or the other side. I just don't know how you're
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  Speaker 3: going to, I mean, the whole point is you're having
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  Speaker 3: 12 people on there because it's not just up to
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  Speaker 3: one person. Anyway, I think they did a really good
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  Speaker 3: case and I don't think it was a hard thing
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  Speaker 3: to prove, but he is trying to get another trial.
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  Speaker 2: So good luck to him. But you know what? I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he's on a TV show two
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  Speaker 2: years from now. I really wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody that was canceled seems to just be living their
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  Speaker 3: life two years later and no one seems to care. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of people that are living their life, TMZ is
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  Speaker 3: now saying that the Tindler Swindler dude, that looks a
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  Speaker 3: lot like Josh Flagg, my friend, is supposedly expecting to
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  Speaker 3: get $ 20, 000 a night to appear at a nightclub.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, really? Like you're the club promoter and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: How we could fill this place on a Saturday night?
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  Speaker 3: Let's get the Tinder swindler here. Pay him 20 grand.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that you couldn't get other hot social
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  Speaker 3: influencer TV people and pay them that much or less
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  Speaker 3: and have a better crowd come. But maybe people are
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  Speaker 3: that curious. Hey, look, I'm still talking about him. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if the family that he was pretending to
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  Speaker 3: be part of got wind of this and his cameo
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  Speaker 3: money and was like, you know what? We are going
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  Speaker 3: to sue him for lying about us. He lied to
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  Speaker 3: all these people and said that he was our son.
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  Speaker 3: He photoshopped himself into our photo. He changed his last
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  Speaker 3: name to match ours. He is not part of our
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  Speaker 3: diamond family fortune. And they're suing him. And they said
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  Speaker 3: that we'll stop at nothing. And whatever money we recover
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  Speaker 3: from this guy... who now appears to be making some,
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  Speaker 3: we will give to his victims. So I think we're
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  Speaker 3: not done with them. This is a crazy story that
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  Speaker 3: has so many elements. This ex-Goldman Sachs banker, Tim Lesner,
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  Speaker 3: is right now in court for allegedly stealing up to
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  Speaker 3: $ 200 million from the 1MDB, it stands for this like
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  Speaker 3: Malaysian big financial.
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  Speaker 2: Fund, and it goes deep.
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  Speaker 3: And he said in court that he twice faked divorce
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  Speaker 3: to marry his next spouse. And he used Photoshop documents
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  Speaker 3: to wed reality star Kimora Lee Simmons. Kimora Lee Simmons,
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  Speaker 3: we haven't really heard a lot about her. She was
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  Speaker 3: kind of in the heyday of like, Around 2008, 9, 10, 11.
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  Speaker 3: That's when her show was on E! So she married
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  Speaker 3: Russell Simmons. They had two adorable little girls, and she
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  Speaker 3: was on E! for like six years. And I think
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  Speaker 3: a couple years after that, she had one more show
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  Speaker 3: on another network, but it didn't really hit. It was
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  Speaker 3: just kind of one of those shows where we just
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  Speaker 3: followed her around and her little girls, and it was
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  Speaker 3: just about trying on outfits and building a brand and
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  Speaker 3: having a lot of assistance and rearranging a closet. She
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  Speaker 3: then met another actor. I forgot his name and had
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  Speaker 3: one more and had one child with him. Then she
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  Speaker 3: thought she married this guy, Tim, and they had a son.
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  Speaker 3: But now he is admitting, this guy, Tim, that he
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  Speaker 3: submitted fake documents to marry first Judy Chan, a former
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  Speaker 3: analyst at Goldman in 2000, while he was married to
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  Speaker 3: an unidentified woman. So he was married to one woman,
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  Speaker 3: still married to her, married this other woman at Goldman Sachs.
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  Speaker 2: Then I don't know what happened to that marriage. He
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  Speaker 2: must have still been married to her. Maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how many times he's been married. But
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  Speaker 3: then he photoshopped divorce documents to marry model and reality
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  Speaker 3: TV star Kamora Lee Simmons in 2014. And when I
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  Speaker 3: looked up her Wikipedia, it says that she has a
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  Speaker 3: son with him, but it doesn't say they were married
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  Speaker 3: because I don't think it was legal.
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  Speaker 2: I think she thought it was. But in 2014, her
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  Speaker 2: last reality show was 2013.
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  Speaker 3: So She probably was like, I have no more TV
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  Speaker 3: shows in my future.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, this guy's smart. He's a businessman.
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  Speaker 3: I'm done dealing with rappers and actors. I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to have a nice Goldman Sachs, just salt of the earth, businessman,
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  Speaker 3: financial guy, only to find out that this guy is
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  Speaker 3: the worst. So this admission about faking this with women
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  Speaker 3: was after this guy, Tim Lester, testified against Roger N.G.
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  Speaker 3: Goldman's former head of investment banking in Malaysia who allegedly
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  Speaker 3: led a corruption scheme. Earlier this week, Lester also admitted
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  Speaker 3: to having a decade-long affair with a former client, Rohana Rozin,
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  Speaker 3: and then Rozin, the CEO of Mesut Broadcasting and former
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  Speaker 3: CEO of Astro Malaysia Buildings, allegedly then blackmailed him, Lester,
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  Speaker 3: to buy her a $ 10 million home. So he lied
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  Speaker 3: to women to marry other women. Then he's on trial
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  Speaker 3: for stealing all this money. And at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: he was also being blackmailed by another woman and having
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  Speaker 3: to buy her a $ 10 million house.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, this guy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, why is there, there should be a Netflix
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  Speaker 3: doc being made about him and he should, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think people would want a cameo or go to a,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a nightclub, but I'm just saying he's right there.
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  Speaker 3: Like this story, I'm still so confused. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: how have I not heard about this? It's just, but
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  Speaker 3: it goes from us to China.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's everywhere. And this guy was just a full
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  Speaker 2: of shit person.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just imagining like Kimora being like, yes. Oh, You
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  Speaker 3: know him, up at four for the stock market, and
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  Speaker 3: it was just all bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, Amanda Bynes. You remember Amanda Bynes.
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  Speaker 3: She was a child actor. She did all these fun
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  Speaker 3: movies when she was a teenager. Then she kind of
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  Speaker 3: struggled where she was wearing the blue wigs, and people
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  Speaker 3: were concerned, and then she didn't want to be near
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  Speaker 3: her parents, and she was going to go to fashion school. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: she has been in a conservatorship that her parents have,
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  Speaker 3: I think her mother does, and she believes her condition
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  Speaker 3: has improved, and her lawyer tells people that she's filing
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  Speaker 3: to end her conservatorship, which I think she'll probably succeed in.
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  Speaker 3: I really think Brittany helped with all of that, and
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  Speaker 3: I think people are really looking at this in a
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  Speaker 3: much different way. Brittany's having the time of her life.
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  Speaker 3: She's with her fiance, Sam. They are in Hawaii and
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  Speaker 3: she is dancing around in a little red dress. And
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  Speaker 3: just when I was like, you know what, girl, you really,
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  Speaker 3: you're onto some new stuff.
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  Speaker 2: No, she packed the brown pumps.
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  Speaker 3: I have noticed that there are several versions of the
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  Speaker 3: brown sensible pump. This one is a lighter with more
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  Speaker 3: of a pointed toe. The one that I kind of
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  Speaker 3: feel like is sort of her dancing shoe is more
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  Speaker 3: of a Minnie Mouse-like rounded toe, and it's a darker brown. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things I noticed, someone else noticed, is
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  Speaker 3: that there was some woman that is filming her. And
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  Speaker 3: then she was in what looks to be like a
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  Speaker 3: beautiful pool in Hawaii. And it's just Sam's back and
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  Speaker 3: it's Sam's, um, post her fiance and she's like, you know, hugging,
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  Speaker 3: kissing him. And I'm like, now is that same woman
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  Speaker 3: have to get in the pool and film that? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: just imagine you're just the person that's like, what do
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  Speaker 3: you do? Oh, I just go on trips with rich
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  Speaker 3: people and just take their Instagram for them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe sometimes I order some food or ask if we're
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  Speaker 3: going to have more towels. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how busy is the day for someone like that. But, um,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure she's got a couple of bodyguards and whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody knows how to work an iPhone.
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  Speaker 2: So that way we can be entertained. This was an
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  Speaker 2: awful story.
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  Speaker 3: Shanna Mochler, who, uh, is Travis partner Barker's ex-wife who, uh,
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  Speaker 3: was on, I don't, do we know who won big brother?
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  Speaker 3: Is it over with who won? Oh, the girl I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know who was Misha one. She's like a W.
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  Speaker 2: What is she?
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  Speaker 5: She's like a fighter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, a fighter, not a basketball player.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, whatever. She won. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But I woke up to this awful thing that someone
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  Speaker 3: sent me and it was her Instagram. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if this boyfriend that she had logged into it
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  Speaker 3: or took her phone or what, but it was like 7.20
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  Speaker 3: in the morning and he's walking around filming himself and
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  Speaker 3: filming the house across the street from them saying that
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  Speaker 3: Shanna is an awful person. using the most disgusting derogatory
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  Speaker 3: words to describe her that don't even want to repeat.
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  Speaker 3: He's pointing the camera at this house across the street
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, this guy is married with a wife
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  Speaker 3: and this is where she spent the night. And first
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  Speaker 3: when I watched it, I was like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 3: did she spend the night there because she was fighting
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  Speaker 3: with you and this is a neighbor that she's friendly
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  Speaker 3: with and she's just like, I have to get away
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  Speaker 3: from this freak. Or he kind of was making it
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  Speaker 3: sound like she's having an affair with the guy across
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  Speaker 3: the street. Anyway, he got arrested, and this person, Sharon Tharp, she,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, got the police report.
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  Speaker 2: So this is pretty awful.
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  Speaker 3: But according to the police report, the suspect, the guy Matthew,
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  Speaker 3: had grabbed the victim, Shanna, by the hair, swung her
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  Speaker 3: by the hair on the ground. The suspect grabbed the
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  Speaker 3: victim's face and and neck through chariot victim and urinated
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  Speaker 3: on victim, leaving visible injuries. She got a protective, an
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  Speaker 3: emergency protective order against him. And it's valid through March 3rd.
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  Speaker 3: And then she can go to court and hopefully file,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: you know, one that's of a longer timeframe. Then he
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  Speaker 3: like posted, had somebody else post something about some niece
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  Speaker 3: that's his birth, that was her birthday.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see that?
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  Speaker 3: That was that girl's face that he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I can't even wish my niece a birthday. Like he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to act like a victim. I don't know when
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  Speaker 3: they started to date or what. He also said on
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  Speaker 3: the video, oh, she's not over Travis. I've never been
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  Speaker 3: so disrespected and humiliated in my whole life.
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  Speaker 2: She thinks I'm not successful. I have more money than she.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how long they've been dating, what happened
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  Speaker 3: with this guy, why he freaked out, took her phone,
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  Speaker 3: acted like this. Again, this is just What I got
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  Speaker 3: from Twitter that someone apparently, oh, I guess they got
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  Speaker 3: it from Us Magazine.
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  Speaker 2: It's really horrible. And hopefully she's safe.
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  Speaker 3: But my God, I guess she had just gotten home
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  Speaker 3: from doing Big Brother.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, boyfriend. And this is what you get? Shit. Awful.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Speaking of new girlfriends, Kanye West has a new girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Her name's Chaney Jones. And people didn't know how they met.
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  Speaker 2: Guess how they met. Well, she slid into his DMs.
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  Speaker 2: How else? She looks a lot like him, but so
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  Speaker 2: do a lot of people these days. She's tan.
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  Speaker 3: She has a nice curvy body, pretty enhanced lips. She
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  Speaker 3: wears the big sunglasses. Another photo of her, she's got
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  Speaker 3: the long black hair. With those big sunglasses, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: she really does look like him, but even without like her,
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  Speaker 3: but even without the glasses, she looks like her.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how serious it is.
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  Speaker 3: She's 20 years younger than Kanye.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Kanye is fighting the divorce.
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  Speaker 3: Kim has written a 155-page response to why they should
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: grant her divorce because pleading with the judge or whoever,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: please grant the divorce. By me being single, it's a
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: good sign to Kanye to move on with his life.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: It's good for our family that we have some finality
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to this. He's now saying, I don't want any of
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: my social media posts that I've done to be used
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: in court against me in this divorce because I don't even,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you know, there's no proof to say that I actually
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: wrote those. But then Annie reminded me, meanwhile, he did
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: all those posts where he held up the yellow legal pad,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: just maybe it was one of Kim's yellow legal pads
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: for when she was studying, and said, I'm not hacked.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: This is me. I'm saying all this stuff. I don't know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I just really hope that he can just leave her
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: alone and let her live her life. Apparently she gave
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Pete Davidson a big hickey before he went on stage
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: on Saturday to do Saturday Night Live.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Just let them have fun and watch him on Hulu. Okay, listen.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Noella on Real Housewives of OC, I just came across.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: She just did a post.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And she is talking and she says, as a black woman,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I would like my legacy to be that my great,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: great grandbabies will be comfortable knowing that I fought for
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: their joy and their sexuality and their gender identity and
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: being strong women.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That will be my legacy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm sorry, you're on Real Housewife of OC,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: in which you told everybody that you gave your husband,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: who's a personal injury attorney, Sweet James, a stack of
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: vaginas for his birthday, which was you and two other girls,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: who knows who they are, where you found them, what
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: they identified as sexually, what their job was, why they
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: were there. You think the grandbabies will be like, my
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: great-great-grandmother started a great expression that is stack of vaginas,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: and it's just really empowering.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I can't with these people.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Speaking of a housewife that's doing some really wonderful things,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Bethany Frankel's charity, Be Strong, where she really comes in.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: and has done so much for just disaster relief. She
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: is got over $ 10 million already sent helping the refugees
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: in the Ukraine. And, um, I think she makes it
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: really easy to donate and be part of it. So,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: you know, rarely do we talk about, you know, that's actually,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: she can actually say my grand babies will be saying this,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: which is better than a stack of vaginas, a stack
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: of cash, helping people that need it. Um, And now
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I'm very excited to talk about all the latest scoop.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: We had a reunion of Real Housewives of Salt Lake
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: City last night. And I'm talking to Margaret Josephs, who
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: just so tells it like it is, who's on the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Real Housewives of New Jersey. And we cover it all.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: But also, even if you don't watch the shows, you
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: will really enjoy this interview because we just kind of
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: get into what it is about, you know, exposing your
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: life on these shows and dealing with marital problems, affairs,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: that is all very relatable to everybody. So right now, everybody,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: please join Return Juicy Scooper, Margaret Josephs.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: It's Dune ADL.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Where? Dune ADL.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: There's an accent on the E.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars. Lift?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Please.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage!
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. I'm Darman,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and this is What Happens Next.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Each week on the show, I sit down with extraordinary
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: people who have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: found a way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: filed against me. When your free will was about to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: be taken from you, what would you do if it
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was given back?
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: I need a home dad.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: happens next.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I decided to risk it all.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So I'm so excited.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to return Juicy Scooper, fabulous New Jersey housewife,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Margaret Josephs.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Oh my God, Heather. I'm so happy to be back
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: here with Juicy Scoop with you. I mean, I missed
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: you and I'm glad you're feeling well. So I'm just
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: so happy to be back.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Well, yes. Thank you. And you just did Wendy Williams.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yes. I did Wendy Williams this morning with Michael Rappaport.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Hilarious.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: And And the way to make the day be in
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the afternoon with you.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Well, Margaret, it's a very juicy season of New Jersey.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks in part to you. And I'm going to catch
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: people up to speed.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: How would you check? Why don't you get everyone up
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: to speed in case they're not watching? People still enjoy
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: my show because we get into really what makes all
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: these stories happen because it is revealed on the show
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: that many years back, Jennifer, who's married to a plastic
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: surgeon who has five children, her husband had an affair.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, and listen, this is something that I had
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: known that he had an affair. Um, you know, the
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: timeline is questionable what she says, but that I could
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: care less because I met my husband by having an affair,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: which I was very honest about. She calls it boasting.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: I call it just telling the truth. I had said
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: it because of course, if you go on a reality show, Heather,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: you know, better than anybody, everything comes out. There are
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: no secrets. So I knew prior to her getting on
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: the show about Bill and his coworker, but I, you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: I was like, all right, fine. You know, her and
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I might get along. Maybe she'll say something about me,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: tricks her. She'll be honest about it. But no, she
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: had the loudest voice in the room to chastise me,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: all the craziness. So I always held it in. But
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: last year was too much when I revealed about my
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: sexual harassment. And she was like, you slept your way
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: to the top of all these things, negating everything that
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: happened to me, making it out like victim shaming. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: was like, you know what? This projection has gone too far.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I gave her opportunity to apologize. She didn't. So I
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: was just like, the hypocrisy was way too rampant for me.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: And I was just like, your family doesn't have the
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: cleanest backyard. Shut your mouth kind of thing.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: And then we look back at the The first season,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I think, that she was on, and you guys went
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: to LeBlanc in Cabo, which I've been to, and I
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: love that place. And you're sitting out there, and you
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: just throw something out, and you say, oh, please, your
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: husband sleeps in the pool house or something, which.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Then made her furious.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Live it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And later on, you're like, I just said that to whatever,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: get your goat. But- In retrospect, was it because you
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: knew of this information and figured you might be sleeping
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: in the pool house because your marriage is not the
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: most perfect.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Thing on earth?
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Of course I did it to say something obnoxious because
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: she was saying so many rude things. Your mother's this,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: all these horrible things. So I also mentioned about the girlfriend.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: I said, well, that's whatever his girlfriend says. And I said,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: hit a nerve. I said it like that. And she
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: had I felt bad. She was a first season housewives.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: It obviously upset her. I didn't want to cut her
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: to the core. And I was like, you know what?
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to hit it home. And that was it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: And I thought maybe, you know, her behavior would change
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: towards me, but it clearly did not.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And then last season we saw your book came out,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: which was really great. And, yes, right from the start,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: when we first saw you join the cast, you were
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: very honest about the fact that you were married all
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: these years, not happy. Your contractor came in, Joe, and
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you guys fell in love.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You did have an affair, and eventually you got divorced.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: You were able to save a very nice relationship and
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: friendship with your ex-husband of all these years, who you
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: have a son with.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And, you know, that... is what, you know, you probably knew.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: This is my story. It's a juicy story.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I've never hid it from anybody in the neighborhood. I'm
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: not going to hide it from the producers, and I'm
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: not going to hide it from the viewers. And I
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: just thought that was, you know, interesting because, look, yes,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: affairs are not good, but it is true that some people,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: you know, meet their second spouse while they're with someone else,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and they do– last forever. I mean, it does happen.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And, and listen, I'm not saying people don't get hurt.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: No one's a cheerleader for affairs.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: But you have to be honest. That's the way things happen.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: And going on this show, I was not going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: like pretend that's not what happened, you know, I look
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: like an idiot.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: And so many times when people, when that does happen
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: and it's even happened with my, with, you know, a
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: friend of mine whose husband cheated on her and, You know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: they were trying to, and she was trying to protect
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: him and the children by never revealing that, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: because the kids were little, that this was going on
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: before they got divorced. And eventually, you know, now the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: kids are old and they've kind of figured it out
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and whatever. But it's like sometimes when that happens, people
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: try to say, no, you know, we were separated or
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: we were just good buddies.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And then when I filed for divorce, then one.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Night, and it's like, you didn't want to, you didn't,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: you didn't want to like create whatever, some different scenario.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And I really, I really thought that was great. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: what happened in the.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Show for people that need to be reminded is, yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: she would just constantly kind of go, go after that
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and go after your story of your, your honest story of,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of being in the fashion industry. And, um, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: having a sexual harassing boss and how you reacted to
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: it and what happened and just being completely honest about it,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: which I thought was so refreshing because we always hear,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: you know, we don't always hear, but we all, we
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: hear all these different, like kind of me too stories.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: And I, you know, and I've always said, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: there's gotta be people like with a Harvey Weinstein throughout
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: his years that did it and didn't say anything about it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: And maybe God, a part or whatever and know he's
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: a pig and wish they didn't have to go that route,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: but probably did, you know, because not every single person
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: that he went after, you know, rejected him or considered
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: it rape.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, he wouldn't have kept doing it. So there's some
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: people that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I agree with. And that's what it was. And I
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: was a very young girl for men that were 20
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: something plus years older than me. And in the garment center,
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, this was going on, it was rampant. So
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I wasn't looking to even name the person or anything
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: like that. I was just saying, this was the experience
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: I had, you know, to, to flip it, like, you know, that,
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: you know, to slut shame and this, that just every
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: of her hurt was projected on me. And you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: she has to have some self-awareness that you can't do this.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: My life didn't affect her. And that's just so crazy.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Like when I said, you know, I don't like your drinking,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: my mother drank. I know where it stems from. You know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: I was honest about it. Don't drink. It's not attractive.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: You know, I grew up with a mother that drank.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: She could have, you know, she never said, she made
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: it like her life was picture perfect.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: No, and I actually thought you being someone who, you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: doesn't drink, That one incident where she got so wasted
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: at whatever the pool party was.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Teresa's, yes.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: And threw up in her husband's car and everyone had
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: to babysit her. I felt your concern as a genuine friend,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: a woman, a co-worker even on the same show being like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: slow it down. Like, this doesn't look good.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It's not funny. It's not cute. And I thought you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: were being like a good friend to her in that moment.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: And, and it was again, flipped on me. So anytime
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: I showed any concern for her or any warmth towards her,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: it was always flipped on me. So I think at
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: this point I was just like, you know what? This
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: is such nonsense. You have such, um, a fake facade of,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: of happiness. And you're really just trying to cover it
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: because the truth is no one drinks like that. No
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: one behaves like that. Um, who's truly happy in their
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: place in life.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: And, and when, um, And when she was being insensitive
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: and cruel and pointing the finger on the fact that
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you were honest about your life in the fashion industry
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and the situation with your former boss, was it just
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: killing you inside at that moment to be like, really?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Who else has had an office affair?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? How did you keep it in?
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: No, I passed a comment at last year's reunion. It
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: just didn't make it in.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, they cut it out.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: I said something. And it wasn't to, you know, just
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: like stop, you know, like every, you got to stop.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And it just, but nothing seems to humble her because
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I really, I was thinking we're in a better place.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: I was hoping we're in a better place. You know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: we do make up. It's just like, cause we are
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: two women and we do come from different perspectives and
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I can understand hers and her projection and, Um, I still,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: she pretended to know she understands her part, but she
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: really doesn't. And I think her social media is proof
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: of that. I've tried to keep it very clean. A
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: lot of people, but she's playing very much. Um, you're,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: you've tried to hurt my children and all that. And
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: you know, that I'm like Cruella Deville and I eat
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: puppies and babies for dinner, which is obviously not the case.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I'm a mother. I'm very protective, protective enough that I
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: don't name my children. Don't have my children on the
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: show and do none of the above, you know, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: keep them very private.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And, you know, one thing I do think that she
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: said that was kind of interesting in one of her
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: confessionals last week is she said, you know, maybe I
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: did lash out at Margaret last year because I was so, like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: because the affair that was, that, you know, I had
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: accepted and we'd gotten past was obviously still upsetting. And
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: by seeing I don't know. I don't even know if
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: that's true, if she really feels that way. But I
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: thought it made her look good.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: No, listen, I agree. And I think some self-actualization is healthy.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: I can understand that she was projecting and maybe that
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: she realizes that now. But listen, any relationship, right, Heather?
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Any marriage, if there's anything... you have to go to therapy.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: You can't just bury that, pretend it never happened. And
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: if she thinks that children aren't perceptive with the mood
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: and the tone of the home, that there's some undercurrent,
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: there is an undercurrent. When one partner pretends something never happened,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: there's an undercurrent. And that's what's going on.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And I also just think like, if I was on
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: The Housewives.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Or so many of The Housewives, have like, you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: shady business stuff or being, you know, sued or whatever.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: If that was in my past or if I was
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: currently maybe going through it or trying to figure it
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: out with my accountant, like the last thing I would
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: do at a dinner party is be like, how's that
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: IRS situation.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Going for you? You know, like that's the last thing
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I would do. I would avoid it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I'd walk out of the room when the conversation started.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I would be like, I don't want to say the
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: wrong thing. I don't want to draw attention to myself.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I don't want to act righteous. And so that's what
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I found was so crazy. Like of all the things
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: for her to latch on, that would be the last
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: thing if I was in her position.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Like, listen, I'm always empathetic to other people who've had
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: law business lawsuits. I've had tons of business lawsuits and,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: you know, most, and it's been with my licensees or
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: whatever it is. So I know the way things could
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: go down the pipe. That's why I was empathetic to Teresa.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: You know, the law isn't always justice. So I always do,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: you know, understand both sides. So I try never to
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: talk about anybody's legal issues or anything like that because
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: I've had legal issues. I know when to keep my
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: mouth shut. And that's why I don't understand why someone
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: like her would just be so aggressive towards me continually. Yes.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: And then what was the deal with the mean- A
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: tweet that she sent, I guess it was right after
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: the reunion, so everyone was not, you know, feeling for
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: each other.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And she kind of went off after.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Melissa and her Joe and saying they're crooks. And I
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: don't really, they keep flashing that tweet up. And I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: don't really understand what that was about.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: It was very much at the reunion. She was trying
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: to triangulate relationships, claiming that I had said, my husband's
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: a plumber. I know Joe Gore doesn't pay his bills.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: That conversation clearly never happened. I said, my husband's a
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: plumber and works with Joe Gorga. He works with him
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: all the time. He wouldn't work with someone who doesn't
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: pay his bills. So those words would never come out
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: of my mouth. And I would never be someone who's
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: confiding clearly in Jennifer. So she was trying to triangulate relationships,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: trying to say, I talk about Melissa. I talk about this.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: There's a snake in the room. So Jackie, myself, Melissa,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: even Dolores, we all realized this is a woman who
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: you know, wants to get in between relationships. So Melissa
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: was so... After she watched the reunion, she was like, wow,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: this person is so horrible. So when Melissa posted the
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: picture of the reunion, she didn't put Jennifer in her photo.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: So she just said someone was missing. Nothing vicious or...
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Just like she didn't put her in it. This obviously
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: got Jennifer very upset. So she just takes everything to
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: the next level. Then she called the Gorgas crooks in
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: her message. Your crooked family, your crooks, that I was
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: a snake.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Just.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Every, you know, vile thing. But to call them crooks,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: you know, just takes it one step further. All right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: you're iced, you know, you're not in a picture. Big deal.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: It's like that's hurting someone's business. She called them crooks
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: and it just escalated from there. And that's, we were just,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: I was like, wow, you really know no boundaries. You know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: it's not acceptable.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and I see that then she's,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: you know, connecting and then, you know, with Teresa, which
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I get all that. It has to be that way.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: But before we move on to that, I want to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: talk about in general because you don't drink. I have
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: noticed that with a lot of the house, especially OC
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: and New Jersey, so much of it is like the
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: evening begins.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Let's all do shots. Let's all do shots. Let's all
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: do shots.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: And I recently said on my show, I love to drink.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I have a good time.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think I've had a girlfriend or anyone go,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: let's do shots, unless like a Juicy Scoop fan tries
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: to buy me one at a bar or something. But
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I never start an evening out with shots. Like at
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: our age, it's about like, let's have a great martini
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: or a glass of wine.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And I just, is that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Because some housewives and stuff are like not great unless
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: they've got a buzz on?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Like they can't bring it. They're nervous.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: I think when the men are around, it's more about
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: the shots.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: When, where it's just the ladies, there's no shots involved.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: So I think on our show.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe other shows where Jersey drinks the least. I will
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: say that compared to any.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: OC seems, I think OC drinks the most. Yeah. I, yeah. I,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: you know what?
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not, I'm not sure who drinks the most, but
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: I'll say sometimes people probably need to feel loose and
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: open up their personality because Jersey, um, truthfully does drink
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: the least and the men always want to do shots.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: And I think when the women are around, they're like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: all right, we'll all do shots. But, but the ladies really,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: you know, have cocktails and they never pressure me to drink,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: which is nice. I mean, listen, Teresa's told me I
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: got to loosen up, have a drink and crazy stuff
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: like that. I was like, I don't need to drink
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: to be loose. I'm naturally, obviously crazy enough. If I
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: had a drink, I'd just fall asleep and get a headache.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: But I do feel some of them need their, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: understand liquid courage for sure.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Right. So Teresa, so Teresa and Louie, her new fiance, um,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: but at this point in the episodes we're watching, they are,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: they're not engaged yet, right?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: She's calling her, she's calling him her boyfriend.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And, you know, very happy that, you know, she's very
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: happy to be in love again after what she, you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: went through with husband number one, Joe Giudice. But so
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: over the summer is when on my birthday weekend is
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: when just like you girls got wind of this video
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: that I guess he did at like a kind of
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: like a weekend boot camp man up. It seemed very like.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Christian alpha male, you know, save your marriage type of thing.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: And he's doing a video with all these guys behind him.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: And he's proclaiming his love to a woman that obviously
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: he's looking back and maybe wasn't the greatest partner to.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: He says, I want to marry you. I want to
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: make our family be together. And I assume he sent
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: it to her. They are no longer together because he's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: with Teresa. And somehow she gave it to someone else.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Who then put it on these blogs and, of course,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: everyone picked it up.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's what happened.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yes. And so you get it just like the rest of.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Us get it. Yeah, see, I saw it literally on Instagram.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: That's where I saw it. Not in a DM, nothing
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: like that on Instagram like the rest of the world
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: saw it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's how I saw it. And, um, I mean,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was hilarious. I did a parody.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: You did the best parody of it ever. I, it
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: was great.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Cause I happened to be on a weekend with my
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: girlfriends and I'm like, if we, if I went to
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: a woman empowerment, how to be a better wife, like what,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: who would be yelling at me to what? Give better
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: blow jobs. Don't be a pillow princess, you know, learn
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: to cook something other than a chicken breast, like get
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: your shit together. You don't need any more black shoes,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: like keep going. And, um, and it was just kind
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: of funny. And I, I thought it was funny and weird.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: But then I also see now the other side of
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: not being so critical of it. Like, cause she, I
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: think Teresa was like on watch albums live and she's like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: or someone said like, look, you know, he tried to
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: go to this weekend thing. He tried to save a
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: relationship and that's his past. And, whether you think that's
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: a creepy thing to do. I mean, my husband would never,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: ever go to like a Christian bootcamp thing, but there
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: was a time when I would like be kind of
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: jealous that they existed and that he would have no
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: desire to do that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Like he'll go golfing with friends, but he doesn't want
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: to be preached.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: I felt two ways. First, I was like, this is
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: a private moment.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: And I felt bad that it was released. But then
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: the other thing is me. I was like, all right,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: maybe I'm being critical. It's a therapy thing. I'm all
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: about therapy. I love to go to therapy more than anybody.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: I'm all about it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: But then when I looked up what it was, this
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: warrior camp, and you read about it and the founder
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: did a beautiful article in the post in 2017. And
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: it's very toxic masculinity camp. Like, you know, men need
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: to get out their primal urges or they're going to
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: beat their women.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Yes. That's what the article said. So of course I
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: was like, he had some explaining to do because That
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I don't feel is very therapeutic. I don't feel men
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: have a primal behavior that they're going to beat their wife.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: I just don't feel that way. I don't feel like
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: my husband, Joe, has an urge to beat me. So
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: to take out his frustrations, he has to go there
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: or anything like that. That's in the founder's words himself.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: I didn't make this up. This is out there. So
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: I'm That's the only reason I thought it was very odd.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm all about therapy and everything else. So
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: I was like, just let this guy explain it. Every,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: you know, it was all out there over the internet. Um,
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: if it wasn't out there, I would have never said it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: You know, the fans want to know we would look
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: like idiots if we didn't talk about it. And you know, and,
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: and in Louis, by the way, he does explain it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: When is this going to air tomorrow?
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Okay. After the episode or before the episode?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Well, in the afternoon.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. So everybody gets to see him explain.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: He does explain it. Yes. He does explain it. We
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: see a preview.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: We see a preview, which will now air tonight of
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: you guys sitting around the fire pit.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: It's very controversial. It's not controversial, but you know, what
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: happens in the video is not exactly what the explanation is.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to leave it at that. And you
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: guys could judge for yourself. And I feel like maybe
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: he's not confident. It doesn't exactly feel comfortable to say
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: what happens because, or whatever it is. And I don't
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: think he did. He's not doing himself any favors. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: think it could have been put to bed if he
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: would have said, I went there, I proposed to this woman,
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: the relationship didn't work out. You know, maybe I wasn't
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: the best then, but I'm working on myself. He would
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: have sounded like a superstar.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And, and that, that could all be what it was.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: You know, it is, it is a hard place for
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: someone like him to navigate because, you know, she keeps
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: saying he didn't sign up.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: For it, but he did. If you're going to marry
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a housewife, a Senator, you know, you know, chief of police, whatever,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some element of your own life
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: that is going to be examined and criticized and that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you have to be careful of. However, in his defense,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: there are.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: A million women weekend boot camp from Tony Robbins to
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Teddy Mellencamp to get your shit together to goop and
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: push and all this stuff.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: And we all might've gone to one of those things.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, if someone like, if someone got a video
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: of me at.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: My senior Catholic retreat, you know, which I would have loved,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I would love to see, but that could, that could
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: look creepy and weird now. Like, I don't know. So yeah.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: I'm with you. I'm just not into like beating the
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: crap out of each other. Um, throwing people overboard, blindfolding you, um,
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: You know, and at the end, they all beat the
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: crap out of each other, beat the shit out of
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: each other.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: You know, they kind of address this in the series You.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Did you ever see You?
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: No.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: On Netflix?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Season three of You, you guys are going to remember
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: this because I know my audience watch it. But the
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: main character has a neighbor that then goes, come on
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: this weekend with me. And he kind of runs it himself.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: And his wife is this huge social influencer. It's a
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: scripted show. But I definitely think they got the idea
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: of this one particular storyline from the fact that it
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: actually exists.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: No, it does actually exist. So I just said, you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: how bad do you have to feel to go to
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: something like this where you have to get beat up
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: and all this stuff? That was it. You know, because
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: it was out there.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: I actually felt bad for him. Truthfully, I actually felt
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: bad for him. I was like, just explain it away
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: so it doesn't have to, like, be lingering.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: And one thing what we always love in a reality show,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: especially Housewives, is when we see the producer and they
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: break the fourth wall.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, I love it. I love it, too.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: So Teresa, you know, realizes that this shit's going down
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: and he calls her up, Louie, and he's like, I
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: don't know if I want to be there. Like, he's
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: nervous about coming and being on camera, which, you know, they...
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: you guys do such a great job and us like
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: just zooming in on your life. But then we also
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: have to realize that there are cameras around and like,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: there is someone putting on a mic pack and like, Oh, sorry,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: that's going to be cold and all this other weird stuff.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And, you know, so he's like, yeah, I'm kind of nervous.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: And so she.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Turns off her mic and then we see the producer
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: come and be like, but really we want him to
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: come so that he can like explain it. And of
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: course they know this is, this is, I mean, as
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a viewer, this is the kind of stuff we love.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Because it's happening in real time. We all remember it happening.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: We all remember calling each other and being obsessed with it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And you guys are actually filming it. So it's like,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: of course we want to see it. But, you know, again,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, I always feel for a
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: housewife that's.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Famous and falling in love with someone.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: And they know that as great as this life has
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: brought Teresa with her cookbooks and her fame and her daughters,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: you know, being famous.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: And I know that she loves it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Doing this show, I felt for her, like, you know, struggling, like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: oh fuck, you know, I don't want him to get
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: scared and run away because I really do love this person.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: No, I, I agree with you. And I think that
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: was a very hard moment, but I'm just like, I
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: don't think he could have just come. I just think
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: it's just like, be honest. It's much easier as painful
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: as it is. If she, if she didn't pretend the
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: whole time, everything's okay. Everything's okay. You dig deeper and deeper.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: If you just get everything out in the open, he
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: knew what he signed up for. He signed the release.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: He poses for the paparazzi. He has a public Instagram. Unfortunately,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: reality shows you've got to take the good with the bad.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: And then, so we see Dolores, who just is getting
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: prettier every day.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I know. She's just like ridiculously gorgeous.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: She's a natural beauty. Natural beauty with, you know, a
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: little help. But her little help.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Her little help. is so good. It really works on her.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Her face is stunning. Her bone structure is to die.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Her body looks great, but I'm just saying her face,
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: you can't look that good if you didn't have it
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: to start out with.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Yes. And so she's with Dr. David or whatever. It's David, right?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: That was her ex.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, her ex.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: They broke up.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: So this is all over and there was controversy. Was
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: this is the girl that the doctor is currently dating
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: or do you know, at one time, did she also
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: date Teresa's Louie?
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: You know, I heard that it's true. Um, her name
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: is Vanessa. Uh, she's a life coach. I have seen
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: her photographs with his other ex fiance, Vanessa. They have
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: worked together. I mean, all his exes have teamed up together.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: So I don't know why she would have been with
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: the ex. She says, um, It's really not the case.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: They knew each other that Louis pursued her. They didn't date.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. I really don't know the real truth,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: but they do know each other. They they're connected, but
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know the real story.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's pretty juicy, but yes, yes. You know,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I guess New Jersey is.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Not that big of a place.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's like a little it's it's a tiny
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: little postage stamp. I don't understand. You know, it's the
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Bergen County area.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: So the season is off to a great start. We
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: have a lot of episodes left. And so, you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: it's I'm enjoying it. Do we do we get to
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: see the guys go on their comedy tour on the show?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Did the cameras ever follow them to that?
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: You know, I think it's only in flashbacks. They follow them,
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: but it's only like in flashbacks.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: OK, good. And all right.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: They had a reunion last night.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: What do you like this franchise? Do you watch it religiously?
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Like I love the franchise.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: I think it's a great franchise. I mean, they had
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: a lot going on.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: And I mean, the only thing I didn't like about
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: the reunion was the dresses, but that's a given. But
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: it was just I felt bad. Mary wasn't there. I
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: really wish she would have been there because I felt
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: like they needed her.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. I mean, well, she chose not to be there.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, I know.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: And that should be a lesson to other housewives.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Not only do I think you miss out on a
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: big paycheck and kind of piss off the whole Bravo world,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: but also then you don't have a chance to defend
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: yourself because on last night's episode, I mean, there was
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: just– There's so much darkness that's happening. I mean, so
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: there's one girl, Jen, who's looking at, you know, I mean,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: they say maximum. So maximum 30 years in prison.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: That could be three. Who knows what it ends up being.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: But she so she has her whole thing and she
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: got arrested. basically got arrested while they were filming. Then
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: we have the new girl, Jenny, who has since been
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: fired from the show.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: And then she was calling Mary a racist. And then meanwhile,
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: she got fired for racist tweets.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: And one thing I said that I thought was interesting,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: because I've said it on my show, is I brought
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: up the fact that she grew up in Long Beach, California.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: And I said, I think that, that unfortunately, Jenny.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: And Mary are racist to each other. And I think
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: it's partially probably because they're women of a certain age
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: that were raised.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: She like, she says, Oh, you know, I was raised
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: in Long Beach and it's.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: So diverse, but unfortunately sometimes the most diverse situations can
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: breed like really mean people. racism as well as places
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: that are all, you know, homogeneous.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Whatever the word is.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: So it's like, um, so she, she kind of says
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: all of that and it just like, oh, I like
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: that part was just, I, you know, the whole thing
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: was just really unfortunate.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: And yes, I agree with you.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: It's uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: And I feel, you know, there were things about Jenny
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: that I liked and then there were things that I
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, good riddance.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Like, And she throws this glass at Mary.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: I see that.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I think that was awful. Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: I was walking away. It was like at her back.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: I was like, what are you doing?
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I really thought, you know what, even if
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: you weren't fired to me, that feels like a reason
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: to start fire. Like let's, it felt so desperate to
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: like get a second season.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Let's be dramatic. Maybe she really is that violent, but
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: if you really are, do we really want this?
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, I don't know.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: I know it's hard because we, you know, New Jersey
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: became the most, you know, Teresa became famous for flipping
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: a table. That was the first time we ever really
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: saw that kind of physicality. And then there were other
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: physical moments throughout the stuff. And I guess we kind
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: of like it. We like to see the anger. But
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: then the more we watch it where sometimes you're just like, okay,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: is this real? Or did this person like plan this out?
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it looked, she was like, I think that looked
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: a little planned out.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I just want to also say, Jen Shuck, calm, very calm.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: Cool as a cucumber. So, I mean... I mean, I
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: think I'd be crapping a brick. I'd be having a breakdown.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: If you were looking at that kind of time?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think I could do another season. I would
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: just be like praying. I'd be in church. I'd be
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: with my attorneys. I would just, I don't think I
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: could do, I don't know.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I know.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe that, but that, maybe that is why she's in
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: this predicament because she does think she's untouchable and she
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: does think she's shemazing. And she does think that she
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: does nothing wrong. And I think that, you know, take away.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: You know, these possible, you know, these criminal charges that
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: she has to fight. She was kind of like more
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: likable this. I hated her last.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: I agree. She is more likable.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: She's a little more likable. Like she's had like some
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: funny moments.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: She can be kind of charming. And but I mean,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: everything I've read on it, she's. It's not looking great.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, every single person has done a plea deal
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: under her and admitted to doing wrongdoing. So I don't
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: see how she's going to get out of it.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh, good. You know, it's just I.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Feel like I think like if you think that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: You're going to go to jail, why not be amazing
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and have some fun? Like, why not make as much
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: money as you can make?
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: That's true, too. It's just like live your best life
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: till you go. I guess you're absolutely right. I mean, listen,
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: these women, I got to give them credit. They've stuck
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: by her.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: They've stuck by her. This is like, you know, a
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: group that you want and you're sinking ship. I mean, true, truthfully.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, and then part of it is like, okay,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: she's here. You know, it hasn't, it hasn't been convicted.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, people were, you know, really harsh on Erica
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: and that was really the whole thing.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: And that was her husband, not even her.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: And that's, that's what some other people were saying.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Like, don't you think it's weird that Um, somebody had
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: written to me, like, I was like, so, you know,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: anti Erica Jane, so disgusted and everything. But I think
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: it's because as the viewer, Erica was so unapologetic.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: So like, I don't know.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: And then with Jen, she's just like, what we've seen,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: she hasn't tried to defend herself.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: She's just like, yeah, I don't know what this is
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: all about, but we're fighting it. And then that's it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: And the cast members don't have the information like the
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills cast mates did, being in Los Angeles, the
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: LA Times article, the number of lawsuits that were going
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: on with Tom Girardi. So they could really arm themselves
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: with some easy information to kind of ask her about
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: and discuss.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: And to this day, I.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I still don't really understand the Jen crime and the
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Jen crime is not as juicy as the Tom Girardi history.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And so it's like, I think we just want to
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: sit back and I'll just wear your weird outfit and
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: your feathers and dance around and in snowflakes.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: I know exactly what you're saying, but I was just like,
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: Joe and I were just like mesmerized by the whole
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: like perkiness and that, Yeah. And lightheartedness. And she looks
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: better than ever, where poor Erika Jayne looked like she
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: was through the ringer by the time her reunion came.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: You could see it wore on her.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, she looked off.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: And Jen Shah looks like a million bucks. I mean,
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: she never looked better. Her skin's smooth. She looks youthful.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, I was like, wow.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I know, and as weird as the outfit was, I'm like,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: that purple eyeshadow looks really pretty with these ridiculous feathers.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: But I mean, let's just talk about the outfits for
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: a minute. I mean, I felt like it was put together...
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: by a children's craft store.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: All of them.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: I just don't know what anybody was thinking. Cause these
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: are attractive women. I don't, yes, I don't understand the
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: excessive feathers. Um, I mean, listen, Jersey's not always known
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: for the best style. So I'm not going to act like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: you know, we're so above, you know, that we have
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: the epitome of good taste. I mean, some of us do, but, uh,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: this hit an all time low.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But also they always give you lies like a theme.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Like So I assume your theme was like jewel tones
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: I know, but jewel tones, where was jewel tones mixed
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: with Big Bird? I don't get it. You know what
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: I mean?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I think they both want feathers, but didn't like consult
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: with each other. They each thought they were going to
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: be the only one with feathers, Meredith. And what do
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: you think of Lisa Barlow and like why everyone goes
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: after Lisa Barlow?
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Because again, as a viewer, I'm very confused why everyone....
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Thinks that Lisa Barlow is like the worst person on earth,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: like the other cast members.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: Um, I, I, you know, I don't know why they
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: think that. I think that hot mic moment really sealed
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: her fate a little bit because her and Meredith were
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: good friends and then supposedly good friends. I feel like
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: maybe they're not such good friends because you really wouldn't
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: say such a thing like that if that was your
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: good friend.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: No, it was really weird.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: And I guess, and I still don't, and I think
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: when Lisa Barlow, like what tipped Lisa Barlow over the edge,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: I still don't understand what tipped her to a place to.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Go and do that rant.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Like that's where I think that there's so much going
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, whether Lisa.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Barlow is, Yeah, I don't get it either. or a private.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Investigator, you know, to go after Jen and then she
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: had to clarify. Like, so I guess they felt like
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: her hands were dirty and all this stuff. But I mean,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: but then in the end, you look back at the
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: season and you're like, well, if it wasn't for Lisa Barlow, like,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know that we'd have a, that the show
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: would have kept my interest, including.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Her horrible rant.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: I think Lisa Barlow is a beautiful, great housewife. I mean,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: she's getting it from every angle.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: You know, everyone's ganging up on her for sure. They're
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: all very upset with her. And that's what I find
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: so interesting because we have someone on the cast who
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: literally is, you know, possibly committed a very horrific, you know, innocent,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: proven guilty, but I mean, that should be, but then we're,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: you know, someone who really, you know, it's all about her.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm, I mean, the Mary was so bizarre, but
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: the bizarreness added to the show, but I'm, I'm not
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: necessarily sad to see her go because I was.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Very into exploring that church.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: And I know you did a drive by, you were
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: in front of it. I saw you.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: It was very bizarre, which I said, when I fainted
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: on stage, I'm like, I kind of, I came for
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Mary and Mary may have sent Jesus.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that's what happened.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: I'm on the head.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, come on, when those producers met
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Mary with her, you know, all her designer clothes and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: being a head of this weird church, they must have
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: just been like, I cannot, like, I just imagine the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: person that found her and then brought it to the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: bosses and is like, I think we have a really
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: great housewife.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: She has her own church.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: It would be like, oh my God, this is like crazy.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: But then the only thing about this bizarre cast is like,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: is it that sustainable? Because I don't feel like there
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: was a cohesiveness. When the start of New Jersey started,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: it began with women who really knew each other, were
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: sisters and sisters-in-laws, and it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Just like, oh my God, this is so great. And
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: then it always built.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: And with each person that left, another one would come
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: in that had a real connection or could create a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: real connection. And with this group, I feel like it's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: very discombobulated. Nobody was really that cohesive besties when it started,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: it seems like. Except maybe Meredith and Lisa. I don't
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: even think they were really that close.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what exactly is going on there.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: But listen, Heather and Whitney are cousins. They seem very bonded.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: But then they, I don't know if the cousins thing,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: it's like they figured out they were cousins because they
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: were like friendly on the show and then they like did.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: A DNA test. Oh, did a search?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: Is that what it was?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't like they were growing
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: up as cousins.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: They didn't hang out.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: They didn't hang out.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: But now they're close.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're close. So they're good. But I just don't understand, like,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: I didn't understand the Meredith who was like obsessed with
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Mary because they're very different people. Yeah. I want to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: know who everybody was dating. What's going to happen with that?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, the guy? Yeah. Well, you know, do you know
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: who the guy is?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: Do you?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yes. Supposedly rumors.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: He's someone that Has made a couple appearances on New
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: York's show.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: So who could that be besides Harry Dubin?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I will send you a photo. And when I send
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: you the photo, you're going to go, oh, okay. I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: kind of remember him. And I don't even know that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: this is 100% true. But this is what the rumor
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: is and why. And so supposedly this guy, you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: kind of dated a couple women on the New York cast.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: And then maybe they.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe they DM'd each other, met up when they were
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: doing Watch What Happens Live or they were in New York.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: And so then during that time, supposedly, allegedly, he dated both.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Jen and Meredith.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: But Meredith always made it very clear that they were
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: separated and, you know, they were able to see each
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: other during that separation. Jen has never revealed that her
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: marriage isn't anything but perfect. Well, not necessarily because she
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: does say they were like fighting at one point last season,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: but never to the point of like, you know, seeing
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: other people. But there was this one moment where she's
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: crying after she like got in a fight and she
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: threw a glass at her husband's birthday. Then she reveals
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: to the friends like, oh, Coach Shaw left for a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: few days and we're fighting.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: But so I.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Don't know if in this reunion they're going to bring
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: up the fact that, you know, that. that it was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: revealed that where, where Jen went home from the Uber,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: where they didn't know where she went after Heather sent
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: her an Uber home. And is she dating, you know, why,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: why does she know who Jen dated? And why does
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: not Jen, sorry, why does she know who Meredith dated?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: And why does Lisa Barlow know? And who is that person?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: But pretty much in all, I don't even know if
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: this is in the show or if I heard it
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: from like, you know, the detectives of housewives, but, I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: think the story is that at one time they both
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: got with this guy.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: And here, you know what?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot to choose from after
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: a certain point of age. Like, I don't think, I mean,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: he probably was pretty dapper. They're in New York. He's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: acting charming and, And they're like, sure, why not?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I saw him. I don't think he's that great.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: But maybe, you know, you're in Salt Lake City and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: then you're in New York and this guy's like, meet
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: me at a hotel and he's flirting with you and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: you're separated from your husband.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: And so maybe it did happen.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I could see Meredith. I mean, Jen Shah.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, running around on the coach. I mean, all right, listen,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: you know, whatever.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: And the other question is that I'm excited for Andy
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: to ask. One is, is Meredith wearing a chest plate?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Because of the amount of people that commented.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: Yes, what is that? He does. He does ask that.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: He does finally ask it. I think I even tweeted it. Like,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: he better ask that. And the other is, why is
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: no one asking if Coach Shaw knows where her income
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: came from when everyone was questioning Erika Jayne about where
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: her husband lived?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he asked that. I'm sure he's going to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: ask that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: No, he is. He is going to ask that.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: He is going to ask that.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: So I saw that in the preview.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: But that chest plate, too. I was like, that is
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: a chest plate. Like, what do you think that is?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: Did she maybe have a laser on her chest so
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: she wore a chest plate? It has to be something.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because the outfit that people thought that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Meredith was wearing a chest plate in, her boobs look flatter.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Than they do in other cleavage-y things. Yes, yes. So
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: that's like, it was so bizarre, but.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It could have just been a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: weird lighting.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no way.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: No way. But why would someone do that?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: Because did she maybe just have surgery and there were
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: scars or they couldn't cover it with makeup or maybe
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: it was something like that. She just had laser or.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just imagining like the makeup or the stylist, you know,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: guy who's like, This is so great.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: It's called a chest plate. I used to do drag. Like,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: who would have thought? I don't know.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: You know, there's always some makeup artist that, like, tries
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: to talk you into something bizarre.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: You're like, okay, I guess you know better than me. Like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: what the fuck?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: Exactly. I don't know. But listen, she has worn some
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: outlandish things.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: So it wouldn't be abnormal for her to wear a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: chest plate.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: So, okay, in Salt Lake City, we saw a very
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: ridiculous sex scene. between Whitney and her husband, where she
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: basically is just wearing a G-string with pasties on, and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: it's just crazy.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: And I remember you had a.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Bit of a sexy scene with your Joe that the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: producers must have talked you into. And so I kind
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: of went deep on this last week, and I'm like,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: how does this work?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: How do you agree to.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Kind of basically let the, you know, cameramen and stuff
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: see you naked, whether they fuzz it out or not.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Like, how does a scene like that come about?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: And do you ever have regrets when you go a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: little too naked or sexual on the reality show?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I look at it this way. You know, with me...
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: I always shower with Joe. That's a common occurrence. So
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: we shower together every morning and we don't have sex
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: in the shower. We just shower together. So they were like,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: do your normal morning routine. We want to get you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: and Joe in the shower. So I was like, all right,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: to me, it's not a big deal. You know, so
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: they didn't have a lot of convincing to do for
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: Joe and I. Joe was more concerned the camera guys
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: were going to see me naked. I was like, they have,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: I've done a tub scene. I mean, they're used to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: seeing me and, you know, I'm far from the, you know,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: best shape woman on my show. So they could give
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: two creps. Um, so to me, you didn't care.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: So you were full vagina out. No, no, no.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: They let me get in the shower first. Joe and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: I were getting in the shower anyway. And then, you know,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: they set up the lighting and everything in there. So
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: we had our shower door closed, you know, they did it.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: So you didn't see us. They showed us through the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: shower door.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: So it wasn't as, as bad, you know, for us.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Cause we do shower together all the time. Um, so
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: for me, that was like my normal life. It wasn't.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: So the scene that Whitney did, yes. I, I, you know,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd feel that comfortable. It was,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's, it can't be real, you know, they
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: must do that all the time. I mean, I'm obviously
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: very lazy. I don't do things like that. I mean, yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: I always have a lazy bottom. I mean, what am
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: I going to do?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I, I just kind of was like, wow,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: like you have, pasties on.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, she's in good shape.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, she's hot. I mean, it's cute.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: She's a hot girl.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: I just sometimes think like, oh, you know, sometimes.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: You don't think about it. You get talked into it.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Just like you always hear about models that are like, well,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: I was just going to be a regular model and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: then the photographer said now take off your top and
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: hold your hands now just put your arms above your
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: head and now there's nude photos of me like I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: literally think a reality show producer can talk someone into
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: doing something.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: It's probably like, Oh, you guys are such a great couple.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, show us like your little sexy time. And you know,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: they're into each other. They're like, all right, fine.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure it's something like that.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: It was like, but our shower scene was, I was like,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: all right, no problem.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. Well, I, um, okay.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: And then you said you're watching, you watched a little
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: of Miami.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: No, I love, I happen to love Miami and I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: have to catch up. I think they all, they all
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: look amazing. Um, They're, they're all great cast members. Um,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: it's really good. Very good show.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: It's really good.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: And you have the beauty of Miami and it's very
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: juicy and it's very juicy with the Larsa Pippen and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Alexia's life is crazy. And the previews of their reunion,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: which I think start this week, look really good.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: Yes. And I'm friends with Marisol and I love Marisol.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: So I feel like a personal connection cause I, I
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: text with Marisol. So I do feel, um, you know,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: they're just, they're just natural. It's like watching a telenovela, right?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: It's just like, it's just, it's like a, to me,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: that's like a real life somewhere. It's just totally, I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: think they are always like that. Just the high drama
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: of being, you know, my, in Miami.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: And are you watching OC at all?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not really watching OC. And I know Heather Dubrow
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: got very upset with me because I was put in
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: a position to say, you know, the best franchise, you know,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: they asked me and what's not as great now. And
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I did say OC, and everyone's like, how could you
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: say that, Margaret? You guys think Jersey's the best? That's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: not what I'm saying. I just said I didn't feel
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: like the cast was gelling as much. And everybody took
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: it as a personal affront. I was like, geez, someone
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: asked me my opinion. Everyone, you know, calm it down.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: You know, we're all great. We're all great franchises. But
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: right now, that's the cast that wasn't gelling as much
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: as everything else.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I... we'll watch it till I die.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, you're in the OC.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: I still want, I'm not in it, but I like
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: to be there. But, um, yeah, I mean, there's, you know,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: but that's the thing. Like sometimes, and sometimes the fans
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: are kind of awful. Cause it's like, sometimes there isn't.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: That much going on. I agree. Sometimes not. Sometimes someone's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: not going through a divorce.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Sometimes someone's not getting investigated by the FBI.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: And then everyone's like bitchy about it. And it's like, well,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: and they're not professional. comedians.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: So sometimes just getting wasted and falling over isn't that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: funny either.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Sometimes there has to be more.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: And, and, you know, I think all the girls are great,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: but yeah, like storyline wise, is it as like super
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: intriguing and juicy and edge of your street, edge of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: your seat as Beverly Hills and.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: New Jersey and Salt Lake? Probably not. But like, What
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: are you going to do about it?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: It's still a good show. I'm not saying it's not
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: a good show. I just feel like it's a little,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: you know, I just felt like it was just a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: little disjointed compared to, and not because they don't have
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: natural drama or whatever it is. I still, I think
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: all the ladies are great on that show. But everybody
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: was like, woo, I got it. Everyone's like, yeah. I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: was like, all right, calm it down. You can't have
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: an opinion. You cannot have an opinion.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Listen.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Kelly Dodd, very upset with me. She said I was
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: very full of myself at BravoCon. She said I was
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: full of myself because I said I have good skin
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: because I use Irish spring soap. I mean, that's the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: opposite of being pretentious. I mean, I'd be pretentious if
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: I said I use La Mer.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: Irish spring is, I mean, it's literally 99 cents a bar.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Is that really what you use?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: Yes. For years, I've used that. Last year, I started
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: using Eve Lomb because everyone, you know, my dermatologist, everyone
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: was like, you got to stop. But I swear, that's,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: I think, why I didn't have pimples. And my skin looked,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: you know, you can say you want. I have cellulite.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: I did get a facelift, but that doesn't fix skin.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: My skin is good. I don't think that's so bad
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: to say that I have good skin. I mean, that's
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: not pompous. I mean, cut me a break.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, are you and Kelly okay now?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't even talk to her.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: It's been like two years. I think she's all right. No, no.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: Then she said she's going to argue with me because
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: I'm full of myself if we ever go on Girls
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Trip season three. I was like, fine. I was like,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: you know what? You know, bring your A game. You
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: think I care? You and little Rick all day.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I actually think you guys would have a blast.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd love to see you on girls trip three.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, it would be, who else, who else do
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: you want on girls trip three? Let's cast it.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: I would probably do all current housewives or whatever it is.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, cause unfortunately Dorinda just did
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: the one that's coming out. Cause I'd love to be there.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: But like, if it was me, it was, I would
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: take Dolores for my crew. Cause Teresa, Melissa, right. So
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: it would be me and Dolores. Let me just pick
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: something from everywhere. Beverly Hills. I would actually take Lisa Rinna.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: Definitely. Because, you know, you want a fun person. You
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: want someone who's going to say crazy shit. You need,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: you need it.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: And that's going to ask interesting questions and stuff. That's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: what kind of made the, the Bahama girl trip really
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: great is that they had those moments of like, now
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: tell me what you were feeling during this time in
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: your life. Like it was kind of like having breakfast,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: like you would with like, with girls on a girl's trip.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: And so I'm excited for that. Yeah. You know, right.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Um, I would take Karen Huger.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: I would take Karen Huger. Atlanta, I would really take Marlo.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: I like Marlo. I always loved her when she was
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: a friend of, that she's a peach now. She's amazing.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: I love the way she dresses. She's funny.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: I met her in Andy's baby shower. I thought she
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: was fabulous. From the OC, I would probably take Shannon.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: I know. I would take Shannon because, first of all,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: we're both blondes. I need my blonde. I know her.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm more bonded with her than everybody
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: else on that show. And who else? What are the friends? Oh,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: Salt Lake City. Yes. Who would I have to take
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: from Salt Lake? I mean, that could be a tough one.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: That could be a tough one. I mean, the natural
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: thing would be to say, like, a Heather Gay because
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: we get along. And I'd have to take a Heather Gay.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: I think take a Heather Gay because you've got to
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: have someone who's going to drink and have fun.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Yes. And you've got to take someone that isn't as self-conscious.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Because that's what will make it fun is someone that's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: just self-deprecating.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just out there and totally themselves. And I'd take
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: a Heather gay. Yeah. And I think that would be
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: such a good group of women.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Well, you're welcome, Andy. We just cast it. So I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: hope you guys have a great time.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: I hope so.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Margaret, tell everybody what you're working on and what's coming
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: up besides the show.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: Okay. So what I'm working on is, first of all,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: I have a mocktail coming out called Soiree. Um, in
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: the next like month, God willing, it comes in from
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: the bottler because like we said, I don't drink, right.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: It's coming out in slim cans, um, for elevated flavors.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: You could see the cans behind us. They're very fabulous. Uh,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: so that's, that'll be coming in and that's just not
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: a housewife thing. That's, you know, I have a team
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: and we're doing a really big thing. So that's great.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: I'm very excited about it because, and you could also
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: spike it. So working on that, um, my paperback is
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: coming out actually, uh, this week. And I'm very excited
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: about that. And there's a bonus chapter that is an
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: interview with Marge senior.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: And I've told people, I loved your book and a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: lot of juicy troopers that read it really liked it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: That makes me, you know, it's a, it is a good, interesting,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: juicy memoir.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: With really great advice.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: That sums up each chapter. That was really good.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: And, and a great chapter with Marge senior, you know,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: about how she felt about the book and about her.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: And then, of course, my podcast, Caviar Dreams, Tuna Fish Budget,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: which is about entrepreneurs, people disrupting industries, people who had
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: a dream and made their success happen. And that's great.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: I keep the pop culture because you're doing such a
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: good job at it. I don't need to step into
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: that arena.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I loved getting your opinion on all things Housewife.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: And we will keep watching. Every Tuesday night, New Jersey
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: is really good, as always. And love to all the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: other girls. Love to Melissa.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And hopefully let me know when you come
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: out to LA and I'll see you.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully soon I'll be out there. Thanks, Heather.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: is so organized, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 7: in-store or online from macaulay.ie. For home delivery or free
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  Speaker 7: click and collect.
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 7: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.