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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Roster Math · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, it's Mac and Foe on your radio.
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  Speaker 2: Baby in my freeing man, Posh, come on, Posh, MA
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  Speaker 2: Freeing Team Bone.
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  Speaker 1: What's the fun I can't go to work without listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Mack and Bone.
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  Speaker 3: To do it, Lit, We'll definitely roll it out just
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  Speaker 3: the way we have been, where you have a lead
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  Speaker 3: back for the series, the other guy comes in on
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  Speaker 3: third down so they can be in there for the protection,
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  Speaker 3: and also we run the ball on third down, so
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  Speaker 3: those are good opportunities to just keep a guy into
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  Speaker 3: the game while the other person, whether it's CHEWBA or JB.
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  Speaker 3: We'll make that decision when we get closer. But whoever
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  Speaker 3: the lead guy for the base downs is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they get they'll get the bulk of that rhythm so
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  Speaker 3: that they kind of feel what's happening with with the
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  Speaker 3: fronts and how the defense is trying to play as well.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Coach Canala is talking about the wide receiver he wasn't
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  Speaker 5: working with the named Fiddy played the wrong the wrong
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  Speaker 5: cut that was the running back one from the previous segment.
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  Speaker 6: I can play the Washington cut now if you want
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  Speaker 6: me to.
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  Speaker 5: We have, but we have a problem to text line,
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  Speaker 5: my bad. We may have a focus at your all
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  Speaker 5: ends right now. That was the wrong cut, And I
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  Speaker 5: tell him back now, that was the wrong cut. I
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  Speaker 5: just assumed he did what he was supposed to do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he was good enough to get through kindergarten
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  Speaker 5: in one year. I thought he'd be on top of the.
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  Speaker 2: You've got you walking back back in both Joe. You've
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: got Fitty all disheveled right now because it is date night.
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  Speaker 2: He's taken out the Lovely Patty the Batty today to
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  Speaker 2: a Mexican restaurant, and he's having some stomach issues. So
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: now you've got the guy all concerned back there.
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  Speaker 5: You do not want to have stomach issues when you're
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  Speaker 5: going out on a date to a Mexican restaurant, a.
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  Speaker 2: Place, a place that he had no success by the way,
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  Speaker 2: your House of Horrors.
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  Speaker 6: No, this is my comfort zone, no, is it?
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  Speaker 5: Though?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, because the menu isn't overwhelming. I know what I
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  Speaker 7: want to order and I can say it confidently, not
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  Speaker 7: so like an idiot ordering a meta dish.
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  Speaker 6: This is my go to I go there once every
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  Speaker 6: day to the month.
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  Speaker 4: What's the success right here at this place? Well, if you're.
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  Speaker 7: Down in the long term, but in the immediacy there's
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  Speaker 7: usually been a follow up, second date.
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  Speaker 4: It's for the batter, all right.
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  Speaker 5: Let's hear Dave Kanais talk about the wide receiver competition.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're all aware of the receiver you know, group,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like we have about seven guys that i'd
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  Speaker 3: love to keep. I don't know if we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to keep seven. You know, there's been years
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  Speaker 3: where we were able to keep seven for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's possible. So those guys are competing,
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  Speaker 3: they're pushing, you know. That's that's Jimmy, that's John Metchi.
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  Speaker 8: Just seem reed.
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  Speaker 3: Casey Washington keeps making plays. So these are guys that
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  Speaker 3: are going to be in the conversation as we get
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  Speaker 3: down to it.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So there you go.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we were looking for right there, you Dave
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  Speaker 5: the wide receiver battles and something interesting there. He would
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  Speaker 5: like to keep seven bone, but doesn't know if this
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  Speaker 5: year he'll be able to do it. They have had
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  Speaker 5: they've alternated basically between six or seven guys on at
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  Speaker 5: the wide receiver spot really over the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 5: depending on you know, situation on the roster at other
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  Speaker 5: positions and just kind of you know, time of the season,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of going back and forth. But he's telling
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  Speaker 5: you right there, and what he's alluding to Bone, I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure means there are other spots on the roster, other
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  Speaker 5: positions on the roster where we might need to keep
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  Speaker 5: an extra number then maybe we usually do where in
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  Speaker 5: the past we were able to have a seventh guy.
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  Speaker 5: So let's start first with the wide Let's let's see,
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  Speaker 5: let's try to work out how this math works and
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  Speaker 5: like what position Bone could what positions might need an
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  Speaker 5: extra guy, and why wide receiver and what other positions
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  Speaker 5: might have to you know, stay on the lower end
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  Speaker 5: as far as wide receiver goes. If they keep only six,
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  Speaker 5: that basically means Bone that they will have obviously the
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  Speaker 5: top three, even though XL's in a boot and is
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  Speaker 5: not gonna play this week against the Texans.
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  Speaker 4: You got your top three.
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  Speaker 5: You have Bryce and Tremaine, who everybody feels like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the special team stuff has him there. And then and
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  Speaker 5: then you're looking if you only stay six, then you're
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  Speaker 5: looking at two players that you keep after that, right
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  Speaker 5: you're talking about Horn you're talking about Mechi, you're talking
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  Speaker 5: about Jessem Reid probably the two and David Moore. Right,
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  Speaker 5: so you're talking about two guys, two spots for four guys.
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  Speaker 2: I talked to a source yesterday, Matt that gave me
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  Speaker 2: some intel on perhaps the Panthers thinking about the wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver spot. Jessem Reid is very well in the mix
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  Speaker 2: for a top six spot here along with Tremaine and
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  Speaker 2: Horn as the back end wideouts. Mechi apparently is going
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  Speaker 2: to have it uphill battle to make this despite the
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  Speaker 2: game the other day, and then David Moore there. So
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  Speaker 2: Jessem Reid's got a real chance despite not playing the
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  Speaker 2: other day, to make team.
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  Speaker 4: I believe it.
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  Speaker 5: And per the same source, there's quite a conundrum with
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  Speaker 5: Darren Waller right now on what to do with him
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  Speaker 5: roster wise, because they like all the other tight ends.
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  Speaker 5: Would they go as far as keeping five tight ends
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  Speaker 5: on the roster? Yeah, and taking a wide receiver away, Well,
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  Speaker 5: that's something they have to think about. Yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 5: that's because it's got to be a give and take,
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  Speaker 5: right like if you if if you are giving up
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  Speaker 5: a wide receiver spot, and I have no problem with that.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, I don't need all I don't need
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  Speaker 5: three of those four guys that I just mentioned being there.
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  Speaker 5: And I am competed by the way, I think Reid's
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  Speaker 5: had a better camp to Mechi when they were both healthy.
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  Speaker 5: Reid would play it's ahead of Mechi like as good
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  Speaker 5: as Mechi was in the third quarter the other night.
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  Speaker 5: That that what you're telling me, Bone, It makes sense
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  Speaker 5: to me. So if you're all over yesterday with when
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  Speaker 5: he came into the game, yeah, it's and and with Horn.
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  Speaker 5: Notice he started coming in early and earlier Hall of
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  Speaker 5: Fame game. He didn't come until late second quarter, even
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  Speaker 5: without the starters playing. He you could tell he is
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  Speaker 5: earning it. He's earned more.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're so right about Horn's body. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Horn's body. The interview with Daniel Stein yesterday, the
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  Speaker 2: dude's got some guns. All of a sudden, He's got dude.
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  Speaker 2: He's worked.
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  Speaker 5: You could tell he's worked on pumping some dame iron,
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  Speaker 5: no doubt. Everybody still says pumping irons, and he's been
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  Speaker 5: doing it. It's a Horn show. So anyway, I think
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  Speaker 5: six wide receivers more could be on the practice squad
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  Speaker 5: and I feel like bone He and Canalis are tight enough.
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  Speaker 5: Practice squad guys get called up all the time, right like,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like more. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: anybody's beating down our doors to get more. I feel
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  Speaker 5: like that would make sense. So, yeah, what you're saying
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  Speaker 5: is put a hat and a polo on him and
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  Speaker 5: say you're sitting there, courts him up. That's what he
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  Speaker 5: did when he was heard last year. He coached him up.
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  Speaker 5: So you're saying, would they go five at tight end
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  Speaker 5: to keep Waller and Sanders for now and then set
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  Speaker 5: they sacrifice a number at at wide receiver?
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  Speaker 4: That also tells its possible.
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  Speaker 2: That also tells me mac that they still don't fully
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  Speaker 2: know what the wide receiver room is gonna work click. Ultimately,
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out can Sanders do something? What's
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell Evans. I think they know Tremble well enough, but
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  Speaker 2: I think the other guys, Matt, they're afraid maybe to
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  Speaker 2: move off somebody because I don't know if they really
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  Speaker 2: know what the other four guys are capable of right now,
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  Speaker 2: So I think they're afraid to, you know, on the
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  Speaker 2: depth chart, he moves Sanders off, put Waller here or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I think Tremble's are only a real known commodity because
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  Speaker 2: they kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Know what his game is.
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  Speaker 5: I will say the other guys they don't fully know
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  Speaker 5: right now and Evans right, Matt, Tremble and Evan, I
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  Speaker 5: will say this bone, it's obviously a Sanders Waller thing.
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  Speaker 5: I think you and I both believe Felipe Franks is
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  Speaker 5: on this squad for special teams. Plus I think he's
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  Speaker 5: played way better tight end than people would have thought
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  Speaker 5: in this camp. Had another big catch, awesome catch yesterday apparently.
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  Speaker 5: But I think what it comes down to is with
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  Speaker 5: with with Waller. If you cut Sanders and Waller gets hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Remember he did three.
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  Speaker 4: Stints on the ir last year.
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  Speaker 5: Like at his age bone he could still do it
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  Speaker 5: when he was on the field touchdowns in nine games.
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  Speaker 5: Would you trust him to stay healthy all year? So
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if they're worried about if they cut Sanders
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  Speaker 5: and Waller gets hurt and it's like, man, we just
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  Speaker 5: ran Sanders out of here and he went and got
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  Speaker 5: picked up by some Also, they could, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they could do a thing back where they
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  Speaker 5: evaluate the tight end room for the first four weeks
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  Speaker 5: of the season, get wall ready to go, then there's
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  Speaker 5: a bye week. Then by week six, maybe they're ready
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  Speaker 5: to unleach Waller when he's in full game tape. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know something to think about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely see to me if Sanders, and if Sanders
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  Speaker 2: is showing signs or whatever, then maybe it's not a
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  Speaker 2: big deal. But maybe they maybe you have Waller on
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  Speaker 2: ice ready to go and in case you need them.
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  Speaker 4: I have to be honest.
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  Speaker 5: If they cut, I feel like Sanders's got more than
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  Speaker 5: enough of a chance. And I'm not saying he's been
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  Speaker 5: bad in camp. But if they if they gamble on
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  Speaker 5: health and keep Waller and say by to Sanders and
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  Speaker 5: we lose him, I'm not gonna blast him for it,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? If Waller in Because here's
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  Speaker 5: the thing. You keep five tight ends, well, then can
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  Speaker 5: you keep three quarterbacks? Can keep Haynes King? You keep
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  Speaker 5: five tight ends? Can you keep aj Dillon? Can you
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  Speaker 5: keep a fourth running back?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 5: Those are spots bone where I value the extra spot more.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to jeopardize Haines King and try to
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  Speaker 5: practice squad him and AJ Dillon too. I want him
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  Speaker 5: on this roster. He's playing a ton of special teams.
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  Speaker 5: It's not like he doesn't contribute there. I think Dylan's
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  Speaker 5: I think Dylan's made this team. And how much is
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  Speaker 5: he gonna play contribute? We'll figure that out along the way.
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  Speaker 5: But I think Dylan has made this team. Walk him down.
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  Speaker 5: Wants to put Sanders on the practice squad because he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't think anyone's gonna pick his slow backside up. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: former second day pitt. I could see somebody give him
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  Speaker 5: a shot. But again, if we lose him, I'm not again,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna cry over that. I'm
• 9:48
  Speaker 5: not gonna go off on Dan Morgan over that.
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  Speaker 4: How about this? JT.
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  Speaker 2: Sanders has lasted too long here? Sincerely, Ian Domins.
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  Speaker 5: How does the roster math workout if you're keeping six
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  Speaker 5: at wide receivers? Canalis seems to think, seems to hint
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  Speaker 5: there that we can't keep seven, right, Well, what positions
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  Speaker 5: are you keeping extra guys out? We're running down some
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  Speaker 5: of those seven oh four, five, seven oh nine, six ten,
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: If you want to jump in, I was looking at
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  Speaker 5: all the Writer's Bone final fifty three projections. You've got
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  Speaker 5: multiple guys that don't have Isaiah Simmons making the roster. Hmm,
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  Speaker 5: Like there's multiple guys saying just the four safeties, just Marrig,
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  Speaker 5: Scott and then the two young guys Ransom and Wheatley.
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  Speaker 5: Special teams can sometimes be the forgotten area of the team.
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at it as if you get Isaiah Simmons, Alibe,
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  Speaker 5: Franks and Tremaine as all special teams guys, that's a
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: hell with special teams unit right there, led by mister Jansen.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, see I would want to keep Isaiah Simmons
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  Speaker 5: for special teams, but to this point, but when we're
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  Speaker 5: trying to keep everybody there is a ross roster limit.
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  Speaker 5: Well that's what I was saying. Five tight ends feels
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  Speaker 5: a little rich. You said though, when the show began,
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  Speaker 5: we got sixty nine spots. Now using practice squad, the
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  Speaker 5: practice practice squad, you put a guy on there, you
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  Speaker 5: risk having him snagged and put on someone else's active roster,
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  Speaker 5: you know. So I'm talking about the guys that you
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: want to make sure you protect the guy we have
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  Speaker 5: to keep away from our practice squad. Mac is the
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  Speaker 5: owner of the Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: Mister Joe Jones, you gave me, mister mingo, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking for someone else there that's as good as he is.
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  Speaker 6: He caught a fifty three yard touchdown on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mingo, Joe Milton.
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  Speaker 6: Who's gonna feed out Sam?
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  Speaker 1: Have for that?
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  Speaker 4: Backup? Zuka Joe got him the touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: I was saying, I can't slander Sam House on Valley's Finest.
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  Speaker 5: But some people try to attack like he could come
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  Speaker 5: here and start over Bryce, didn't they what people try
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  Speaker 5: to tell us that? Anyway, I hope he if he
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  Speaker 5: does lose a joie, I hope he catches on it
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  Speaker 5: somewhere else.
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  Speaker 4: Three super Bowls at some point. All the way, MIT's
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  Speaker 4: got some takes.
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  Speaker 5: I know Mick gets in on the text line and
• 11:55
  Speaker 5: just rips our takes. But man, he got some doozies too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not good.
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  Speaker 5: He's gonna make when we do our book, bone of
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: the text line, Freezing Cold Takes.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe on the cover that bad boy.
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  Speaker 5: Now listen when you do to w FNZ radio host,
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  Speaker 5: Freezing Cold Takes is gonna be me on the day.
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  Speaker 5: I understand, I understand. I will say back that we
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  Speaker 5: could also be on the cover. I'm definitely on the
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  Speaker 5: FNZ os Cover. Don't sleep on Flounders freezing cold takes.
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: By the way, we were talking off the aira yesterday.
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: You know when Jimmy Horns's preseason surge started. I believe
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: it was the day after Flounder declared that he will
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: be cut and will not make the roster.
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  Speaker 4: I guarantee it. Yeah, he's He's walk around a list
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  Speaker 4: of guys he's ran off, and they're all gonna.
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: Make the teams Flounders. Flound can reverse curse and he
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: can straight up curse. He's like, I may have to
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: mentor him.
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  Speaker 4: Bone. He is the next great young cursor. Remember that.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Remember that year he told us the Mets would not
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: win another game the rest of the year, and it
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  Speaker 2: was early join.
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  Speaker 5: He was wrong on that one, shockingly. All right, let's
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: get so some other roster spots here, Bone, that are
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: out out there linebacker. I noticed there was a difference
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: Bone in linebacker. One of the three insiders we're talking about, Mike,
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: k Alex Zettlow and Joe Person doing the fifty three.
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  Speaker 5: One of them kept Jackson cou watch on. They kept
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: a fifth inside linebacker. They're all paint them to do
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: so they're almost does Walker love him some Jackson coop Watch,
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: that's his guy.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: I don't does Musa know?
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  Speaker 5: This?
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: Is he cheating on Musa? Is Musa okay? With a
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: love triangle?
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  Speaker 5: Jackson coop Watch again feels practice squad to me, Like
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  Speaker 5: I feel like he's made some plays. I've also seen
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: him miss some tackles when he's been in there. I
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: don't really feel like I'd rather have Isaiah if it
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: comes down to special teams.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather have Isaiah Simmons and him.
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: If it comes down to keeping five safeties or five linebackers,
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: I go Simmons over coup Watch.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely prid to squad. He's a big dude though Man
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  Speaker 2: six four two thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Development, he's interesting, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: I want him around, but maybe not on the main
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  Speaker 4: roster right away. What about what Mike Kay did. We're
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: gonna call back his roster development though coop Watch.
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  Speaker 5: We're on the qu watch co Watch six, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 5: can't do coop watch Watch. That would be I would
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: sound no Watch Watch. What about what Mike Kay did
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  Speaker 5: with his projected fifty three at offensive line? He only
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: has eight linemen? Now this doesn't count. This doesn't count.
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  Speaker 5: Moten and Ikey who he is thinking Boone Micael on
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: that pop list for the first four weeks. So if
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: you do that and you don't have those guys, he
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: has bone the starters and then Brady C. And he
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: has no Stone Forsyth, and he has no Albert Reese,
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: so the backup tackle would be Brady C.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: He did in a tweet say that Albert Reis was
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: a very tough one for him, that he thinks he's
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: got a chance, but he debated that one.
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  Speaker 4: For a while. Albert Resa had the highest PFF. Great
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  Speaker 4: on Friday Night, Do.
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  Speaker 5: We think stone Forsyth could be cut again?
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  Speaker 2: I thought, I thought, we can't keep them all, so
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: someone's gonna have to go off this rock.
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  Speaker 5: But don't you need Can you have Brady Christiansen as
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: your backup tackle?
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  Speaker 6: You wouldn't think so.
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  Speaker 5: Like again, listen, if he can get back to where
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: he is when he's at his best, I feel fine
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: with it.
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  Speaker 4: That's I don't He's not there yet.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: So at the start of the season, I'm not saying
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: stone foresights Jackie Slater, but like kids look him up
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Jackie Sie, but but like Slater kids look him up
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: to not have Kerran on there as well. He's got Kerrhand,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: he's got Brady C. And who else does he have
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: on there? There's no Stone Foresyth. It's so we look,
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: we can actually pull it up here and what do
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: look that look up?
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I'm flapping my gums.
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: Matt Gotshall think, can you really go into the season
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: with eight offensive lineman?
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I know you're I think you need nine. Yeah, I
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: think you need none.
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: It's a conversation I had with Haggard as I was
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: leaving the building yesterday. It's just that's a light number
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: going on. I know you're getting two guys back.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: He's got Walker, Lewis, Fortner, Hunt Freeling, Christensen Hecked and
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Kurrent hecked.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: I do not forget about man Sam heck. So it's Heck,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Kerhan and Christiansen off the bench. So again, Brady C.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Is he ready to be back up? Coming off a
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: torn acl backup tackle? That that to me, I feel
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: like you've got to keep a Foresighth or Reese until
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: you get Mote and Ricky back. Then I think those
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: guys that guy goes that that tackle goes.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I don't know.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: It's interesting this dude says, are a lot of people
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: roster dorks like you guys?
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, heck yeah. I look at the judge line. You're not.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Look at the text line. They're roster dorks all over
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: the place. On the text line talking about the team
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: is dork is being a dork? What are you talking about?
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I got a lot of dork stuff. I did not this.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: I guess caring about the fifty three man, I'm proud
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: of myself. I do this for my Madden team that
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: might be dorky. This dude said, what happens to Zavala?
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: You didn't mention his name. I think everybody thinks Zavala
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: is cut. I think everybody feels like like it is.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: It will be time to cut him bone. He had
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: such a brutal start to this preseason. I don't think
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: he can come back for plus, there's just better options. Kerrhan'
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: is a better option. Brady c is a backup guards
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: a better option. Right, Yeah, you don't cut the you
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: don't cut the kurrhand. That's one thing you don't do.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Don't mess with the on the CT day, baby, when
• 17:22
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• 17:28
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• 17:31
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 18:00
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• 18:09
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• 18:11
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• 18:15
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• 18:30
  Speaker 4: All right, it's.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Guess it wasn't happy with me on Twitter yesterday. But
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: how I became a Chelsea fan? Tought, I explained.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: He asked me why I'm a Chelsea fan, and I said, well,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: they've got colors that are pretty close to Duke's colors.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: That's why I chose them. Oh man, don't listen to him.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Everybody can pick their own. He just wants everybody to
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: pick liver. Fans are quite harsh here. He is Ladies
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: and gentlemen. We'll talk Heels, DCU, We'll talk NC State Virginia.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: He'll explain why he's disappointed Bone picked Chelsea as this
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Premier League team. He is Adam gold ninety nine to nine,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: the fan in Raleigh and most importantly in Charlotte week
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: nights here on WFNZ at seven o'clock. Goldie, how you feeling, man?
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: What's going on?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm only talking to you today, MATC.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: But I picked Man City years ago like that. That
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: probably makes you mad.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I know it doesn't. That doesn't bother me at all.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Why does the Chelsea way what you come after me for? Goldie.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just an innocent mann here.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to pick a team obnoxious, oxous.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't look up the gear and say, well, this
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: seems obnoxious and words blue. Most teams that were Duke
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: blue are not obnoxious.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about Duke by the way, that's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that's a very childish way. To pick a team your
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: favorite color.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I know I didn't do I said, I didn't do
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of research. I got World Cup fever. I
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: wanted to join the soccer party. I looked up teams
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and I noticed, oh, they've got some gear and colors
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that match life. And then there's a wardrobe decision. That's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a good way to go about it. No one will
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: make funy. So I thought I'll do that. It turns
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: out I might have lied doing Goldie. I may have
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: lied by the way, they're undefeated.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Sin I joined they they scored, They scored thirty seconds
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: with you as a fan.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, go Goldie. Oh there you go,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: there you go. I like that. I'll woke up what
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: that means in a minute.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Goldie, you you've got in the triangle. You've got some actual,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: uh meaningful football action involving the Heels and the Pack.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: This week, let's talk about this NC State game. I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: it's obviously harder than ever to figure out what teams
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: are going to be like to start the season in
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: college football with so much roster flux. What's what's your
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: feeling on the Virginia NC State matchup? I gotta be honest,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: I am a bit surprised that line is held steady
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: up there at like five and a half points.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't don't know what any team is going
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to be. I don't pay attention to the offseason as
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: closely as some other people do. If States offensive line
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: is good, I think their offense will be good. They
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: have the best best quarterback in this matchup, and I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: think in almost all of their toss up games for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the wolf back. And you know, there might be some
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: other toss up games that emerge during the course of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the season, but in three of the first five don't
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: have the better quarterback. Whether it's against Virginia or Vanderbilt
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: or who's at Louisville, I think they'll have the better quarterback.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: If that matters, then State, you know, could get off
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to a very good start. But really we don't know.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I really wish that we could get to a point
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: where we're playing a preseason game in football, But and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I think most coaches would agree. You could. Certainly you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: can sell some tickets. You can keep it out the
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: season ticket a lot. Then you may maybe make a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: little bit more money. That could be the place where
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you throw your FCS game in. I just think that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: would be a lot better. But we're not there yet.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But I'd love to see a preseason game. But I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: think State'll be good.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Last year, the Who's and NNC State played a great
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: football game that came down to the end, and I
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: think it's going to be close again. TCU U NC
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: did not play a great game again. Now they travel
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: to Ireland. The weather's supposed to be open championship like weather,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: high fifties rain in the forecast. It could be an
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: ugly weather day. Do you give the Heels any chance
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: here to pull off an upset? What's your vibe here?
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: As much as you can? For what we know?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Mac? Did Bone say something?
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Man? He is really holding this Chelsea again? You Mac?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Will you ask gold if the Heels have a chance.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be bad weather. It's gonna be like open
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: championship weather. It was ugly last year. Pass that on
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the Goldie. But yeah, Bone wants to know. Can rain
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: helped Bill Belichick rain and win? I tell you these
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Liverpool guys are really.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He's gonna like, I think Carolina is gonna need like
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: serious open championship weather like thirty mile an hour wins.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So Cecy, you can't throw the ball. Look, there's another
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: situation where we don't know. I mean, Carolina had what
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: seventy new players last year? What roughly sixty this year? Again,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I have have no clue. Michael Lombardi doesn't really matter.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Does Steve Belichick's absence matter because he's not going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: be there for this? Maybe you know, maybe not. But
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the truth is is that their team is basically all new,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and because of that, we really don't know. I'm not
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: hugely optimistic, but I am curious, h and I think
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I will not be judgmental. I will be curious. I'm
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: looking forward to watching the game at noon on Saturday.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to watch a little doublehead. Thank you
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: for the answer, A little double header?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: There.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: We got that question relayed through to get to Goldie.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: What would you say though? And I know you don't
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: want to judge Goldie, but I will ask you this
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: question anyway, what would you say if our resident to
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: our resident tar Heel fan Fitty, who has picked the
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Heels straight up as seven and a half point underdogs
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: in this game.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Good luck? Good? Look, we don't know how good TCU
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is going to be, right, I mean I don't see
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: anybody thinking the TCU is going to challenge for the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: top of the Big.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Twelve pick sixth in their conference.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean it's just it's mid table. They're
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: like Brentford. So that's fine.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Everything is good.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Give We're trying to give bone as much Premier League
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: info is possible throughout the summist.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, I appreciate he said. Brentford, right, Brentford. I thought
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: that's where OJ lived back in the day. Didn't he
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: live in Brentford?
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Brentwood?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, both thought that ritzy neighborhood in California had
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: their own Premier leage.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Why does Brentwood have a team? All right? Anyways, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: keep talking.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Brentford does have Cato Klin at right back.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Goldie, what's your take right now? And
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to some it all up in the questions impossible? Every
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: single day, we have more fifth year chaos in college
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: sports right now. LSU's heavily involved when Kiffin's bringing in
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: fifth year guys, Will Wade bringing in fifth year guys.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: What's your take on the latest that we've seen in
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the world of college athletics chaos going on right now?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people bent out of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: shape over undrafted free agents who would have otherwise stuck
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: around college but didn't think that they would be eligible
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: now realizing that they are eligible and returning to college.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: These are not NFL players. They practiced a preseason game
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: is not an NFL game. It's a practice, that's all
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it is. It's an organized practice, it's a timed dress rehearsal.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: But it's not an NFL game. And I think it's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: very disingenuous to call them NFL players because truthfully, almost
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: all of these players are going to get cut before
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they ever drawn a NFL paycheck.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Maybe practice squaded like that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I would think Dai Kwon Wright would be a practice
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: squad player, the tight end.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but he's but he hasn't been placed on there yet.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: You don't no players get paid for the preseason. They don't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: They're not drawing a salary. They're being essentially, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: compensated for uh being a practice player. But so there's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: only so many spots on a practice squad, right, I mean,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I have zero problem with the with those players being
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: eligible to play in college. The truth of the matter
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: is that this is an NCAA mess of its own doing. Yes,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: they should have never said that the twenty twenty two
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: incoming class was ineligible for the rule that they just passed.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: The five years to play five is the rule they passed.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Then they said, oh, by the way, it doesn't include
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the incoming class, the incoming class of twenty two, which
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: makes no sense. It's funny Max Johnson, who played Carolina
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, is going to play. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: forget where he's playing, naturally.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern right just named a starter.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It's his seventh year of college football.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: He could be the chancellor by this point.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have his doctorate before he plays the season,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Like he could go to med school. Does Georgia Southern
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have a medical school? He could graduate before his college
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: football career is over. Nobody has a problem with that,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and I don't either. But this is somebody who is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: playing his seventh year of college football. What's worse. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: got zero problem with. Look, the NCAA has screwed this
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: up from the start. Anybody who is declared eligible by
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a court I'm okay with. I don't care. I really don't.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And by the way. I love the SEC's statement yesterday
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: they should not be eligible to play, but should not
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and will not are two very different things. The SEC
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: will do nothing to LSU, nothing to LSU or ole
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Miss or any to I think all Miss didn't they
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: have a of a basketball player coming in. Maybe they're
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: all going to LSU. I don't.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: I thought all the football and basketball fifth year guys
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: went to. I thought we'll Wade and Lane Kiff and
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: have hoarded them all.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: They're not called the LSU fifth years.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Do you not feel though goldie for guys that might
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: have to lose a spot on the roster, like if
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: you're already at one hundred and five, and I don't
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: know if LSU is or not, Like you are bumping
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: guys off the roster to add guys. You're also giving
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: playing time from guys who have And I think this
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: is why some coaches like Dan Lanning say I ain't
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: doing it right now, it's too late, because I don't
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: think some coaches want to say, hey, you worked your
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: ass off in spring and in summer camp to earn
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: a starting job, but this guy right here is going
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: to come in and take your job. I think some
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: coaches just don't want to look players in the eye.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: And do that.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I respect that completely. Look, it's not ideal. There's always
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: going to be somebody losing out, whether it's a starter
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: who becomes a backup, or a backup who falls off
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the depth chart entirely, maybe even off out of the squad.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I get it. That sucks, but those are choices made
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: by coaches. They don't have. There is nobody who is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: forcing coaches to do this. Layne Kiffin could not be
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: more disingenuous. Well, if we don't recruit them, somebody else will.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: He's not wrong, but to use that as justification for
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: why he is is silly. There's obviously a need on
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: their roster. H and Will Wade you know, you know
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: how many players Will Wade had on his roster like
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: two weeks ago.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Four?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Four?
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, four, He's got six eligible players now he's up
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: to now.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Congratulations.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Four is not enough.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: It's not you need five the least. That's why I
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: got it six, Godi.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: While you're talking, I saw Fox Sports Radios Aaron Torres,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: who's covered college for a long time. He tweeted out
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: a photo of the twenty twenty seven LSU basketball roster
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: and it's the cast of Blue Chips.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Nalty's involved. Now they gotta do Blue Chips too.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Now for them, it's the group from Space Jam Bigure.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: When Blue Chips came out, we thought war this. This
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: is a crazy movie. There's no way it's this.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: It's this.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Uh, this shady turns on Blue Chips was mild in
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: the program. The football movie you got this is wild?
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Do blue Chips too? Man, update it to include fifth years?
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Nil now shacks the GM of the program.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: The optics and by the way of a lot of
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: this stuff obviously are not great, but optics aren't facts. Uh.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And facts are that these guys, if they're declared eligible
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: by the courts whatever, they're eligible.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't bother you. So we do have a
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: handful of people that are saying, right on, Goldie, I'm
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: not there. There are people out there saying, I'm not
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: bothered by two And you did nail it. The NCAA
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: made this situation the mess that it is. And by
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: the way, doesn't that apply to everything at college sports?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: All right? Go you are the man.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Hopefully you will accept Chelsea bone as time goes on, Goldie,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: hopefully you will, man.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Uh, I'll accept that part.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: By the way, I was reminded, it's also not just
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the Colors. I have a cousin named Chelsea, so that
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: makes sense too, my aunt.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: That would have been a much better reason.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Oh man, Bone's a Yankee fan, they say, over the years,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: have spent money, some of it very badly.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: And that's what Chelsea does. I think it's a good
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: fit for him. Don't you root for the Yankees back
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: of the Premier League.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: We spend that money, well, sir, all right, well I went,
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: well we did. We did that for a while. Anyway, Goldie,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: you're the man brother. We appreciate you. All right, there
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: you go. That is Adam gold joining us here as
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: he does every week on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: It is time for the Fit Dog.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of quarterback news around college football. Were less
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  Speaker 7: than two weeks away from Week one, and the Duke
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  Speaker 7: Blue Devils are defending raining ACC champions, the snub team
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  Speaker 7: from the College Football Playoff a year ago. They have
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  Speaker 7: named Walker Egan as their starting quarterback for the twenty
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  Speaker 7: twenty six season.
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  Speaker 2: Bone, you had a defending champs, Mack get their replace?
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  Speaker 2: Dare I say? Will he be better than Mensa at Miami?
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  Speaker 4: Dare you say it?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: You could? Dare say that all you want? Bonego make
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  Speaker 4: it auty. I don't want to take your news. There
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  Speaker 4: is something here, but are you do?
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  Speaker 8: You?
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  Speaker 4: Have you done all your news there?
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: That was all I was doing in this one update.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: You wanted to point out Mac some fifth year news.
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  Speaker 2: Clemson did get back Dylan Hunter yesterday. Their point guard
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: for next basketball season has a fifth year guy.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's good news for Clemson. The bad news in
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Clemson is starting defensive tackle Vic Burley is suspended and
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: definitely got himself in trouble with the lull So that
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: is not good news with LSU less than two weeks away.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Man, it doesn't mean more in Clemson, South Carolina.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: If you think Lane Kiffin would suspend him, way kiffn
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: just signed Vic Burley.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: Say plenty coctory got shot.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin, and Lane Kiffin would just simply probably pay
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: the Popo off.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: In Baton Rouge, I feel like someone tweeted out.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Let it be the first time LSU's football actually be
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: sponsored by five guys. Now five year guys? When would
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: he come back? Kiffin looks to be bringing in at
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: least three fifth year guys. Does this add to the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: villain status? A full discussion on Alano Sports Radio seven WFNZ.
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  Speaker 8: The judge found that these players should have been told
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: and should have known that they were going to be
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: eligible for a fifth year, which every player moving forward,
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: every athlete moving forward in all sports has, and so
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: they should have known that in December when they were
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: making decisions. Had they known that, they would have stayed,
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: they had no eligibly, So this is not many other
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  Speaker 8: circumstances that have been discussed over the years about professionals
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  Speaker 8: coming back. They did not know they had a year.
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: Since then the judges said, you do have a year,
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: and so because of that, this is a different situation
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  Speaker 8: in that where they're just going back to play, they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: wanting to go back to play the year that they've
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: been granted, not an individual case where one player went
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: somewhere to try to win a case. This is a
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  Speaker 8: lot of athletes.
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  Speaker 1: In these.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: That is lane Kiff and he was on the defensive
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  Speaker 5: yesterday at his Monday presser being asked all about taking
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: in these fifth year players, recruiting these fifth year players,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: and he basically said, you know, blame the NCAA for this.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: He used the line like Goldie brought up Bone, somebody's
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: gonna sign him, so why not us? It looks like
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Bone at the very least are going to add three
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: of these fifth year eligible guys. It's the DMan from
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Notre Dame that Marcus Freeman said, our rosters set plus,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure we can get guys in academically. You
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: know I'm cleared uh in time. So he said no,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: but h lane Kiff has taken him on and two
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: former old Miss players seem like they're headed his way.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: De Kwon Wright, the tight end who is reportedly asking
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: for his release from the Browns so you go back
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: to LSU and make more money. Seriously, that's the world
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: we're living in. And then you also have the kid
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: who's who Harris Xavian Harris, who is a former starter
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: for Old Miss, like Wright is former d line starter
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: for Old Miss. So Kiffin seems to be as we
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: all thought would be the case, very heavily involved. There's
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: another Old Miss kid out there too that has been
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: ruled eligible in one of these lawsuits, and they're the
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: kid Piburn from LSU last year. You wonder if Lane
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: would bring him back. He's an edge rusher that had
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: two sacks in the opener of the preseason for the Bucks,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: and people wonder if he gets put on the practice squad,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: will he say release me instead so I can go
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  Speaker 5: back to college and make more than practice squad money.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Quite a mess here.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: In kyleege Jethlen even has Matt Max said, we can't
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: really come and clean this whole thing up.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: This is this is too much for us here.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: What do you think of Goldie basically having no problem
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: with it, and what do you think about Lane Kiffen like,
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  Speaker 5: does this make Should Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 4: Say no to these guys?
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Like? Or is Lane Kiffen or do you agree with
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: what he's saying when he says they're eligible, someone's going
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: to improve their team with him.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: I want to win. I'm going to improve my team. Well,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: what do you think?
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I think part of the problem that we have is
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: that it's Lane Kifvin doing it. If this was mac
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Ryan Silverfield, a new Arkansas coach who doesn't have a
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: reputation of Lane Kiffin new to the SEC, we probably
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: wouldn't we talk about it, but we wouldn't have maybe
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: the anger towards Kiffin because most of us don't like
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Kiffin already. Fact that he's the one doing it, yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: it is within the parameters of what he's allowed to
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  Speaker 5: do right now. But it's the fact that it's him,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: it's LSU, it's Will Wade doing a lot of it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: It's these villainous guys at a villainous school right now
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: at LSU. And the problem that Greg Sank's gonna have
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: is Kiffin's really got the ball rolling here in the SEC,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: and if this thing keeps going, it might be unstoppable.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Like Kiffin's got it started here to some degree, and
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: the SEC doesn't want this to happen. But we know
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: how that conference works, we know how college sports works.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: This is just the chip of the iceberg. Well what
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: they're trying to what Greg Sank's trying to do. The
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: SEC released the statement yesterday their presidents and chancellors saying
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: if you had been into pros, you should not be
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: able to play college sports period.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: But unfortunately that's not the way this is work.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: And some of these guys in NFL camps are going
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: to they are eligible. What they also did is Greg
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Sank came out last week and sent a memo to
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: the schools saying, remember our transfer rules, our intra conference
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: transfer rules are you can't transfer in conference after the
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: December transfer window.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for football.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: So they're trying to say what is being done here
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  Speaker 5: by Lane Kiffin. This before he started doing it, but
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: they saw this coming, and they're trying to say, you're
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: taking kids from all that we're all miss and you're
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: taking them at LSU and it's not in the December
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: window that you're breaking a rule. Now, will they call
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: LSU on it? Goldie says no, Goldie says they'll do
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: nothing about it. I tend to probably agree that they
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: won't end up doing anything about it. As far as
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin doing this, it's listen, they're eligible.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: He gets paid to win games. There's a ton of
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: pressure on the win games.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Here's the problem. How many players are gonna stop at like?
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: It sounds like he's got three right now? Anybody think?
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Anybody think like? And again, there's only so many right
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: now that are eligible. Right but if that court case
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: in Colorado, if that's is taken away and the appeal
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: isn't won by the NCAA, that brings out a ton
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: more athletes that are eligible. I just my thing with
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Kiffin is bone like you are taking. You know, it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: one thing to take one or two players in this
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: situation to help your team. He's got to look players
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: in the eye. And I wonder if he's got a
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: boot guys off the team, because if they were at
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: one hundred and five roster limit, he then has to
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: boot guys off the team to do this. How do
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: you look a kid in their eye that's worked their
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: ass off for y'all spring and all summer and kick
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: them off the team. The other thing that I know
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: he has to do, Bone is when he makes these
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: guys starters and gives playing time away from guys who
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: work their ass off into spring and work their ass
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: off into fall camp, and he goes and tells them
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: this dude wasn't even around as a starter now and
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: I paid him more than you. Like, Lane Kiffin just
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: strikes me as a type of guy bone that if
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: he has to do that to five kids, he don't
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: give a crap, whereas guys like Dan Lanning and Marcus Freeman,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: I truly believe, are thinking more about the team, thinking
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: more about guys, not wanting to create locker room issues,
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: bringing these guys in at the last minute, right and
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: paying them more money and giving playing time up and
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: taking booting kids from the roster that are friends with
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: these other kids that are staying. I just think Lane
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: kiffn doesn't give a damn about anybody but Lane Kiffin.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: So I just I just want that on the record, man.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: I think that like, if he goes in and AD's
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: like fIF five or six guys like this, just imagine
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: how many kids are affected by it that he probably
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: don't give a damn about it. No, it's a great
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: overlooked point in all this also overlooked Mac. I remember
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: when I was younger, there were a lot of athletes
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: that were ruled academically ineligible in various sports. And maybe
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't quite understand what all that meant when I
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: was really young. But I do feel like because I've
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: gotten older, Mac in the in the chaos has grown.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: In college sports.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: What's happened to the academic I know it's a it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: a oh, it's never been a thing. But listen to
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: me here, where did the academic eligible stuff go? How
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: are these guys that they're getting off NFL rosters? How
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: are they eligible when they haven't been enrolled in classes
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: in the fall until now?
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: How's that? And that's part of what Marcus Freeman was said,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: we don't have time for this. Wway Kiffin's like, come on.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: In, David, does anybody think at LSU there are any
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: rules that can't be bypassed to get good athletes on campus?
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Like that's the thing.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Like I thought that was like a deadline that you
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: had to be in class to play in the ceme,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to play this semester, the drop ad deadline at LSU
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: is September second, of course, Notre Dame.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: It's the thirty first of August.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: But like, like, does any anybody really think that would
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: stand in the way of LSU landing players.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Because they would sue and say we should have to
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: go to class.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: But by judge, like Governor Landry has showed you how
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: important LSU athletics is by getting himself involved in that
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: whole thing. And it's just it's about priorities, right, and
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: we know what the priorities are at LSU, and it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: just so. But your point is is a good one too,
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Like you go squeeze these guys in at the last minute,
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: magically make everything work. Anyway, let's see what some of
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: the texters are saying about this. Fake Moon says Lane
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Kiffin's not losing sleep over and he's probably not. But
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: I just think he's showing his character and I just
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: I don't I will not root for him. I hope,
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I hope what he does backfires. I hope it creates
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: chemistry issues inside the locker room, because these guys are humans. Man,
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: they're young, they're young humans, right, Like they're not This
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: isn't PlayStation, you know, in Madden in college football video,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: So like, is.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: He a lower character guy than Brian Kelly was? Did
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: they get the day down great characters? I mean Brian
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Kelly mag was a Southern gentleman after all for a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: number of years.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: It's almost like they don't value character.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: And how they hire their coaches at LSU, that's almost
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: like that there basketball coaches, yes, and their women's basketball
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: com Shaggy says Lane, Uh, let's see where's Shaggy at?
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: That's fake moon again. Where's Shaggy?
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Geez?
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Too many texts? Texts so fast? Jen says no, Lane
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: doesn't care. I hope the guys, uh, they might be
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: losing spots are able to go somewhere else and play
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: what a bleep show? Yeah, The thing is they won't
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: be able to enter the portal. Somehow, these dudes that
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: just got this ruled eligible in these cases, these court cases.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: Somehow they can enter the portal when there's no portal open.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know how that's possible either.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Everything is now there was There used to be academic
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: standards to some degree. There used to be deadlines for
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the portal. Sometimes it was open, sometimes it was closed.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: But then lately, Mac, I've lost complete control of uh
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and and thought of where where when's the portal open?
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: It closed? I have no idea anymore. I have no quote.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Big old fels like the portals like waffle house poor
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: have been closed since what the new year? A few
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: days they were wandering like it's the house closed well
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: and that listen. It's just so many issues. We could
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: go on all day with all the issues. Goldie's right,
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: the NC double A. I said it last week. Why
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: didn't the NC double A. Why didn't they come out
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: in June and instead of trying to rush this rule
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: change through in June and tell the fifth year guys,
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: by the way, you're not eligible, why didn't they just
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: say in June that starting next year the next bone
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: sports the next school calendar year. Right, yeah, so next
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: season in football, not the starting season in this coming
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: season basketball, the next one. Why didn't they say that's
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: when the rule change takes place. Why didn't they try
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: to rush this through at the last damn minute to
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: where now if these kids are ruled eligible, other kids
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: have to lose roster spots. It's just ridiculous. And another
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: thing that's ridiculous bone is that it doesn't apply to
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: all the class of twenty twenty two athletes. The only
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: case that applies to all of them is the Colorado
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Federal Court. But that one you're not allowed to enter
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: the portal, apparently in but all these individual let me
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: find a local judge and good old Baton Rouge, Let
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: me find a local judge and Paduca contentment like those
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: like those, those seem to layups, and you're eligible to
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: enter the portal. It's just it's such a giant cluster
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: fu and now boning an L.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: S U Fan is furious, fell L s U Fan?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Is what happened? You just you just cussed there? Got
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: that fity?
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Oh did I what I said?
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: What I said? You just said cluster f Oh?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: My bad?
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: What did I say? Though?
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't say f No, you say clusters? Oh damn
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: with with with no thought of me. I had no idea.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: I said, I got to go to break now, I'll
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: take you.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Let me take on the L.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: S U guy later, please do Let's just you're you're
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: afraid of my cussing him down. Let's just gotta get
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: the dump. I don't believe I just choose the F
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: W did y'all react to it right away, or like I.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, I well you kept talking. Is that not amazing? Natural?
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Oh it's not amazing. My bad, bad. He get on
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: that dump button over there, plops all right?
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Seriously, Trots alight, Trots when we come back, bringing in
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: the voice of the Brave Sports ninety two seven,