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#788 Parental Guidance Recap - Swings & Strangers · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just answers?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 3: Well, another big night. Last night on Parental Guidance Season two,
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Speaker 3: episode five, Kylie, we were introduced to five sorry five
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Speaker 3: four it's getting a little bit clay five. There is
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Speaker 3: no intruder. It's episode five four four new four new
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Speaker 3: parenting styles sat on the couch and showed us their stuff.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 2: The conversation we had last night on the couch was,
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Speaker 2: do you know in about four or five years, I
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Speaker 2: could audition for this? Actually, maybe Chanelle should do it.
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Speaker 3: Our kids are literally saying, can I go on the show?
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Speaker 3: One of the kids said that if I went on
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Speaker 3: the show, would that be okay? Would you be okay?
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Speaker 3: If I was on the show with you? I'm like,
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Speaker 3: oh gosh, can we just let's just get if the
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Speaker 3: show's still on in ten years, let's have that conversation then.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, we digress. We were introduced to the Slow Parents.
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Speaker 2: Chris and Philippo.
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Speaker 5: Slogroun you Braus is just being really intentional about getting
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Speaker 5: rid of the craziness in our schedule.
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Speaker 4: What shall we leave some muddy pimes? Okay, I think
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Speaker 4: One of the best parts is allowing them to enjoy
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Speaker 4: their childhood and learn and play rather than instructing them
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Speaker 4: constantly from school and then after school activities.
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Speaker 2: There's the American parents Kim and Nick.
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Speaker 1: With American parenting, we tend to set the bar high.
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Speaker 1: You can still do it. Push, push, and then weep
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Speaker 1: from the child to meet the expectation and then set
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Speaker 1: it higher and higher.
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Speaker 3: Well done, good job.
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Speaker 2: Then we had the roads school parents Amy and John.
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Speaker 5: As road school parents, we live in our caravan and
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Speaker 5: travel full time and we homeschool.
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Speaker 3: What do we do up here?
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Speaker 1: That's the key? Or Claire, we went four wheel driving
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Speaker 1: before road schooling.
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Speaker 3: Our kids were so caught up in the rat race
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Speaker 3: and being able to take a backward step because there's
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Speaker 3: so much more time to be able to spend with
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Speaker 3: the kids.
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Speaker 1: That's way better.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And lastly the unstructured parents Malady and Michael.
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Speaker 6: The life of the musician is unstructured. Every day is
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Speaker 6: completely different. So we're firm believers in child led parenting.
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Speaker 3: Are you going to sing with me?
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Speaker 4: Booboo?
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Speaker 6: We kind of let the kids steer the ship when
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Speaker 6: we can. We like to give our children autonomy over
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Speaker 6: their own decisions.
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Speaker 3: Can we do the thing where it's like everyone else
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Speaker 3: is seeing different parts that.
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Speaker 1: That's really cool in the back home.
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Speaker 3: I love so much what happened in this episode, But
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Speaker 3: before we talk about it, and there are just two
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Speaker 3: things that I want to talk about as much as
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Speaker 3: we could dive into heaps of other stuff. I want
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Speaker 3: to talk about the putting the swing set together, and
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Speaker 3: I want to talk about the delivery driver knocking on
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Speaker 3: the door and saying, hey, can I come in and
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Speaker 3: put this heavy item on the kitchen bench. But before
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Speaker 3: we do any of that, there's something that Tansey said
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Speaker 3: right towards the end of the episode. Tensey, one of
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Speaker 3: the outback parents, said this great thing, and I just
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Speaker 3: want to put a great, big neon sign flashing everywhere
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Speaker 3: every time we talk about this show and we talk
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Speaker 3: about parenting generally.
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Speaker 1: There are no bad parents here. Everyone just does it differently.
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Speaker 6: They all want the.
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Speaker 1: Same amount up.
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Speaker 2: I absolutely loved what she said and the acknowledgment that
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Speaker 2: every person in that room is doing the best job
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Speaker 2: that they can. And the conversation I'm having with my
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Speaker 2: friends is just I'm watching these parents and as things unfold,
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Speaker 2: literally feel like I'm being taken back in time to
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Speaker 2: a moment where I fell apart, or I got it wrong,
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Speaker 2: or in some cases got it right, and I'm right
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Speaker 2: there with them. I know what it feels like to
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Speaker 2: be in that position. The only difference is some of
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Speaker 2: us don't actually even think that there's anything wrong with
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Speaker 2: those decisions. Some of us are quite comfortable being there.
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Speaker 2: And yet with all of the exploration that you and
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Speaker 2: I have done, have recognized that they're only better ways
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Speaker 2: to do things from time to time, and being in
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Speaker 2: that position now and going, oh, I really stuff that up.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I can, Maybe I can try again, because it's
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Speaker 2: not about beating yourself up. The more we beat ourselves up,
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Speaker 2: the worst we feel about ourselves, and then we actually
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Speaker 2: don't bring our best to the table at all. But
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Speaker 2: it's ex acknowledging that, oh, there is definitely a better
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Speaker 2: way we could do this.
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Speaker 3: And the great thing about the show is that I'm
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Speaker 3: going to have lots of opportunities. Great thing about life
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Speaker 3: is you get the opportunities. But the show gives us
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Speaker 3: It's this mirror. It says, here's what people struggle with.
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Speaker 3: So let's talk about one of those struggles. I think
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Speaker 3: that there was so much to talk about with the
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Speaker 3: here's a swing set, you've got two hours to put
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Speaker 3: it together. As a family away, you go, oh my god,
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Speaker 3: what that needs to come to this side? All right, well,
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Speaker 3: let's do it. Do you want to hand or do
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Speaker 3: you want to do it on your own?
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Speaker 4: I just want to cry.
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Speaker 2: Can I just say last season it was a beach hut.
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Speaker 2: This is a big deal building a swing set with
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Speaker 2: all those nuts and bolts and what do you call
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Speaker 2: those things?
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Speaker 3: Little allan keys? No, you're you're holding up your hand
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Speaker 3: like I know what that's it?
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Speaker 2: A round disc? What do you call them?
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Speaker 1: Washes?
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Speaker 2: Washes? Yes, there's so many bits and pieces.
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Speaker 1: And then you've got little hands.
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Speaker 3: Who want to hell hearing you even say this. You
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Speaker 3: don't even know how to describe what a washer is.
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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, how would we do this? I was
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Speaker 3: so glad. I can't.
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Speaker 2: You would have failed miserably.
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Speaker 3: Not think of a word.
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Speaker 2: You can't deal with pictures, You can't. You just don't
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Speaker 2: to it.
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Speaker 3: I hate those instructions and I hate building things. I
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Speaker 3: do actually just pay the trades person to come over
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Speaker 3: and build them for us. When we've done in the
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Speaker 3: past like one of those spring free trampolines.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I would never attempt to sprink.
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Speaker 3: I just I just hate the guy. I'm like, I'm
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Speaker 3: not even gonna fix it, which makes me feel like
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Speaker 3: a complete failure while we're talking about, which means that
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Speaker 3: we can say whatever we want about everyone else because
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Speaker 3: we would have failed far worse.
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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: The first one that I want to talk about, though,
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Speaker 3: is the way Kim and Nick, our American parents, approached this.
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Speaker 3: Here hold us for doubt here, Yeah, okay, now, we're
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Speaker 3: going to be careful.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing this right now. Yeah, I'll just stay out
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Speaker 1: of the way. You've got to get this done, and
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Speaker 1: we're going to do it right. You know, We've got
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Speaker 1: to do it well. We've got to finish it.
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Speaker 3: Kylie, I'm going to dive in here before you say anything,
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Speaker 3: because I can see you reaching for woods but you're
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Speaker 3: not quite sure what to say. I chafed. I chafed
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Speaker 3: at watching Kim and Nick do this now again, there
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Speaker 3: are no bad parents on this show, great family, and
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Speaker 3: they also acknowledged in the room, you're getting the goal
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Speaker 3: matters more than our child's participation. We had to build
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Speaker 3: this and we had to build it right and we
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Speaker 3: had to get it done on time.
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Speaker 2: That's the American way, right there is there's always a goal,
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Speaker 2: and it's about reaching that goal no matter what. But
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Speaker 2: in their defense, I am that mum in the kitchen.
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Speaker 2: Just let me just let me do what I've got
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Speaker 2: to do. I've got to get to the other end.
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Speaker 2: You have that laundry or whatever.
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Speaker 3: The Christmas tree. You are that mum with the Christmas tree.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so this is not about Kim and Nick. This
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Speaker 2: is actually just about an acknowledgment when we're in those situations,
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Speaker 2: is the goal more important than the actual process and
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Speaker 2: the opportunity we have to connect with our kids?
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Speaker 3: And watching it, watching it said to me this is
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Speaker 3: what control does. Yeah, as you watch peer shrink back
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Speaker 3: when mum says no, no, no, I just need to do this,
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Speaker 3: and being given these unimportant tasks, I think that we.
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Speaker 1: Could have given PM more responsibility. That we were on
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Speaker 1: a time crunch.
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Speaker 4: It's harder and then I need the ball and someone
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Speaker 4: threaded on me, I'll do it.
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Speaker 1: Per you hold this.
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Speaker 3: It does something to the psyche of the child. And
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Speaker 3: the great thing about the show is that we get
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Speaker 3: to have that mirror held up and Kim and Nick
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Speaker 3: could see that. But Kim also said, but the goal
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Speaker 3: has to be met. I get it, I can see it,
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Speaker 3: but I still have to control the outcome. I have
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Speaker 3: to win. Contrast, I was going to say, let's compare
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Speaker 3: that to philipri and Chris, our slow parents.
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Speaker 5: We realized pretty quickly we're outnumbered in terms of delegating
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Speaker 5: tasks because they're quite tricky. So Chris worked with Peyton.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which way do you trust it on?
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Speaker 4: Lefty lucy, righty, tidy?
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Speaker 5: And I worked with Brier smartin it went up. It
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Speaker 5: was always going to be hard to keep Avery engaged
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Speaker 5: because she's only four and it's quite tricky tasks that
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Speaker 5: are outside of her development level. Do you want to
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Speaker 5: play in the cardboard box where?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you put Melody and Michael into the
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Speaker 2: same boat there.
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Speaker 3: Here's what happened with them.
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Speaker 6: I think we're really good at enjoying the process of things.
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Speaker 1: You might drill my leg or something.
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Speaker 6: No, the drills nowhere near leg, babes, all right, I
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Speaker 6: would much rather that than the goal be met at
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Speaker 6: the end.
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Speaker 2: And so we've got this amazingly like on the Continuum
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Speaker 2: You've got these families complete opposite ends of the spectrum.
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Speaker 2: There is no goal here at all except for let's
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Speaker 2: just see where this goes.
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Speaker 3: Connection, connection, And this is this is my challenge at
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Speaker 3: a personal level. I'm not talking about the science here.
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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about at a personal level. While I
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Speaker 3: chase at the American way Kim and Nick and their
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Speaker 3: American style, I also chafe at the slow approach and
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Speaker 3: the unstructured approach, because come on, we actually do have
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Speaker 3: to get this thing done. And they did. I mean
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Speaker 3: they worked through it.
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Speaker 2: But in real life. Okay, let's just put this into
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Speaker 2: real context. If we brought home a swing set, but
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Speaker 2: I was setting a time for two hours, it could
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Speaker 2: take us all day. And if your approach is slow.
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Speaker 3: But if it took me all day, I would throw tools.
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Speaker 3: I would lose them.
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, what a waste. But that's because you
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Speaker 2: are goal oriented. That's the difference.
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Speaker 3: I'm incompetent when it comes to building things.
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Speaker 5: Both.
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Speaker 2: It's both though for these other two families, especially the
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Speaker 2: slow parents, I think Chris and Philip are really nailed
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Speaker 2: this whole. We'll just take it as it comes. There
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Speaker 2: was no anxiety at all at any stage of the game.
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Speaker 2: It just didn't happen. They just didn't finish in the timeframe.
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Speaker 2: But I would suggest if they were given time to
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Speaker 2: kind of let this go, it would have continued for hours.
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Speaker 2: They would have got it done, and they actually would
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Speaker 2: have celebrated the fact that they had achieved it, and.
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Speaker 3: They would have enjoyed the slowness of it.
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Speaker 2: That's right. It's all about the process for them as
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Speaker 2: opposed to the end result.
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Speaker 3: I'm not a slow person. You are not.
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Speaker 4: I'm not.
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Speaker 3: I'm not at all. And yet, oh gosh, even hearing
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Speaker 3: you talk about it makes me wish that I could be.
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Speaker 3: But I want to do stuff, I want to achieve stuff,
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Speaker 3: and I want to get it all done today.
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Speaker 2: Malady and Michael's son Miller. Yes, he said such a
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Speaker 2: gorgeous one liner.
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Speaker 4: At this point, it doesn't really matter if we get
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Speaker 4: the swing or not, because we're having fun.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 2: I love that, and I think it really kind of
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Speaker 2: just highlighted how they live life. It really is about
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Speaker 2: that connection and just having fun to get other and
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Speaker 2: being able to do so regardless of the outcome.
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Speaker 3: So let's talk about Amy and John the Road school
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Speaker 3: parents there was some heat. There was some heat coming
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Speaker 3: off mum Amy when things weren't going quite right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where that goes. That's why I left it there, mate,
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Speaker 1: I thought you were.
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Speaker 3: Doing this again.
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Speaker 1: I've got all the pieces. I need you to stop
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Speaker 1: being silly, all.
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Speaker 3: The pieces, I think because we're very alike, he challenged
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Speaker 3: me a lot.
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Speaker 2: Hang on, I'm not going you want me right now
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Speaker 2: because you're not listening to me.
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Speaker 1: Get the book.
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Speaker 3: No, just sit down, Come on, have a workout, you too.
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Speaker 5: You want to give them a sense of responsibility so
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Speaker 5: they feel like they've accomplished something, but in the exact
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Speaker 5: same breath, you just want to punch them in the face.
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Speaker 3: I can't say that I did.
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Speaker 2: What I actually really admire about this was Amy absolutely
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Speaker 2: owned this in a studio.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I yelled a bit.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely owned it. And so often as parents we kind
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Speaker 2: of want to paint a really good picture of how
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Speaker 2: things are, but the reality is we're not like that
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Speaker 2: all the time. And there was an acknowledgment that for her,
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Speaker 2: there is one particular child that kind of just really
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Speaker 2: greats her from time to time because she recognized they
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Speaker 2: are so similar.
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Speaker 3: Do you know how they've got three kids. There's only
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Speaker 3: one particular child. We have six kids. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: But the critical thing about what Amy and John did
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Speaker 3: here is not only did they own it, but but
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Speaker 3: there was repair. And that's the critical thing because in
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Speaker 3: every relationship, we're going to mess up, we're going to
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Speaker 3: make a big booboo all over the place consistently, and
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Speaker 3: they repaired it, and that is the key.
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Speaker 2: And you can also recognize that this wasn't just TV repair,
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Speaker 2: if that makes sense. There wasn't. It wasn't just because
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Speaker 2: they were on camera. There was a definite recognition that
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Speaker 2: this is something that has done regularly in the home
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Speaker 2: because of the way their son then responded when they
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Speaker 2: realized that there'd been a mishap made in the construction
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Speaker 2: of best swing set.
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Speaker 3: So that was the road school parents and the way
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Speaker 3: they put together their swing set. Kind of hard to
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Speaker 3: work out who we can learn the most from in
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Speaker 3: that challenge, But I think that there's stuff to pull
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Speaker 3: out of every one of those challenges, and that's what
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Speaker 3: I love about this one. And like I said, it
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Speaker 3: would have been an epic fail if we had done it.
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Speaker 2: Before we go on to the next challenge, I just
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Speaker 2: have to bring up the slow parents. Yes, and we
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Speaker 2: got to know them a little bit better. There was
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Speaker 2: an acknowledgment that they haven't had a TV for three years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we went without TV for at least that when
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Speaker 3: we lived in Wollongong. Remember we had no TV and
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Speaker 3: it was bliss. I don't know how relevant that is
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Speaker 3: once you've got teens and there are screens everywhere, regardless
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Speaker 3: of a TV or not.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I think that's where we got to as
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Speaker 2: our kids got older and screens became.
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Speaker 3: Prolific. Prolific is that the word we're looking for. Abundant everywhere, ubiquitous.
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Speaker 3: There were lots of them.
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Speaker 2: That not having a TV actually didn't make much of
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Speaker 2: a difference to the outcome. Yes, But I love their
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Speaker 2: philosophy that as the children got used to it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: in the beginning, it's really hard, and we experience that
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Speaker 2: lots of tantrums, lots of you know, kind of tears,
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Speaker 2: But over time the kids actually recognize it's no longer
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Speaker 2: an option, and the things that they end up doing
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Speaker 2: as a result, it's inspiring.
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Speaker 3: We need to talk about the second big challenge for
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Speaker 3: episode five of Parental Guidance season two. A delivery driver
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Speaker 3: knocks on the door and says, I've got a package
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Speaker 3: for your parents. The kids say, can you leave it there?
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Speaker 3: And the delivery driver says, actually, it's really heavy and
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Speaker 3: it's raining outside. I probably need to come in and
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Speaker 3: put it on the kitchen bench. What do the kids do?
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Speaker 2: This is one of those hard in your mouth moments
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Speaker 2: I think as a parent watching this, I was thinking,
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Speaker 2: I wonder, have we had enough conversations with our kids
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Speaker 2: about this? Like this physically made me feel sick.
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Speaker 3: So we've got the American parents, Kim and Nick, and
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Speaker 3: they've got this gorgeous kid, Pia, who reluctantly opens the door,
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Speaker 3: and the conversation that happens after that is powerful.
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Speaker 4: Have you had the conversation with her what to do
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Speaker 4: with thirty times?
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Speaker 1: What do you tell her to never open the door
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Speaker 1: to a stranger? We've had this discussion with her.
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Speaker 2: Thank God that was in a psyche environment.
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Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, in a real life situation, you're gone already.
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Speaker 1: That guy has snatched you, you know whatever it is.
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Speaker 3: Kylie Kim said, what do we do? What are we
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Speaker 3: supposed to say? And there is no easy answer here?
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Speaker 3: And I think that they have been doing the right thing,
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Speaker 3: but it just hasn't gotten through.
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Speaker 2: I think the other challenge you have and you recognize
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Speaker 2: it and see it with kids that have a level
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Speaker 2: of confidence in their ability to have adult conversations or
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Speaker 2: be in a space with adults and have confidence. Peer
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Speaker 2: is a really confident kid. Yeah, and so she sees
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Speaker 2: in that moment that she is capable. Right, That's what
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Speaker 2: it comes down to you.
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Speaker 3: She feels confident open door, knows how to talk one adult.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Whereas other children who do not have
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Speaker 2: the same level of confidence, they're not about to do
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Speaker 2: it because they don't they don't know how to work
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Speaker 2: or navigate the space. I remember when our kids were younger,
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Speaker 2: and I was blown away at their confidence in the water.
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Speaker 2: Now they hadn't had many lessons, and I remember one
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Speaker 2: of the teachers. I was like feeling so proud of
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Speaker 2: myself because I've got this kid who just loves the
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Speaker 2: water and she's really confident. And I remember her swimming
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Speaker 2: teacher telling me, the confident kids are the ones you
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Speaker 2: need to be worried about the most. And I couldn't
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Speaker 2: believe what she was saying at the time. But over
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Speaker 2: the years, as I've watched our children in the water,
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Speaker 2: I have recognized and seen how much more dangerous the
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Speaker 2: situation is because they don't see the danger. Yeah, in
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Speaker 2: the situation.
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Speaker 3: On the other hand, we've got some pretty confident kids
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Speaker 3: who are being road school parented. And here's what happened
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Speaker 3: with them.
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Speaker 1: I got a parcel to deliver for you. It's a
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Speaker 1: bit fragile.
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Speaker 4: Would you be kind of to let me know place
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Speaker 4: it somewhere?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
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Speaker 1: Nah, we'll do it. Well, I don't think you can
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Speaker 1: do this.
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Speaker 6: My boss finds out that I actually made you do this,
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Speaker 6: i'd get fired on the spot.
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Speaker 2: Well, you both would be happy if you placed it
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Speaker 2: on the floor.
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Speaker 1: Hey, I got to keep it inside and I got
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Speaker 1: to keep it some safe. I'll ring that and see
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Speaker 1: what packages in. Really good, boy, that's okay, I get it.
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Speaker 5: I can't really fit much in that Suzuki, Baldough, if
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Speaker 5: you're delivery driver?
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Speaker 1: Exactly did he understand? No, he really didn't want to
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Speaker 1: get fired for his shelty.
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Speaker 2: What I loved about these guys is they nailed it,
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Speaker 2: but there was there was an awareness, but there was
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Speaker 2: no fear. These kids weren't scared. They knew how to
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Speaker 2: handle themselves. They knew that this guy did not make sense,
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Speaker 2: and they did everything they could to keep themselves safe
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Speaker 2: without the fear.
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Speaker 3: There's also strength in numbers, which was probably their advantage
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Speaker 3: as well, which I loved. We do need to talk
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Speaker 3: just briefly about the slow parents Chris and Philippa. Consistent
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Speaker 3: with their style, although very frustrating from a TV point
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Speaker 3: of view, they left the house said we just don't
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Speaker 3: leave our kids and walked back in, so we never
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Speaker 3: actually got to see the challenge happen there.
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Speaker 2: I actually want to, like really praise them for that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: I think back on times where I have made decisions
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Speaker 2: about my parenting based on what other people have told
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Speaker 2: me is the in thing at the time. Control crying
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Speaker 2: is the one that jumps out at me wrong right,
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Speaker 2: And it felt completely wrong to me, but I went
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Speaker 2: along with it because this was the only option that
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Speaker 2: we had available to us. This is what everyone was
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Speaker 2: telling us was going to be the magic pill to
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Speaker 2: make everything right. And for them to be in a
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Speaker 2: position where they recognized and knew this was part of
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Speaker 2: the show, and yet it still did not sit with
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Speaker 2: their principles, and they were willing to stand for that.
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Speaker 2: I actually think that's amazing.
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Speaker 3: Fair enough, it does make it hard to make a
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Speaker 3: TV show when people don't do the challenges, but I
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Speaker 3: think that's a really important point, and it creates this
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Speaker 3: This is what it's about. It's creating this continued conversation.
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Speaker 3: Can we please talk though, about Miller and the unstructured
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Speaker 3: parents and the way that Miller responded to this challenge.
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Speaker 3: First of all, can this kid play the guitar?
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Speaker 5: Or what.
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Speaker 2: I loved? I loved that not only did he have
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Speaker 2: a clear picture of what he was going to do
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Speaker 2: when mom and dad left the house, but they knew
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Speaker 2: exactly what he was going to get up to.
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Speaker 1: To Miller, you got the house to yourself. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm going to do. I play guitar and eat
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Speaker 1: junk food.
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Speaker 2: And how he just loved being in this space where
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Speaker 2: you could crank up the music players guitar at the
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Speaker 2: top of the volume and just have a ball. They're
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Speaker 2: just so carefree.
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Speaker 3: And of course he did open the door, but then
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Speaker 3: he shot it and went back in and just I
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Speaker 3: had playing the guitar again. It was fantastic have the
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Speaker 3: conversation with your kids. It's so important that they understand.
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Speaker 3: No matter what, you just don't let people in. You
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Speaker 3: just don't let people in unless there's a parent in
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Speaker 3: the house. So important, Kaylee can't wait for episode number six.
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Speaker 3: It's happening tonight at seven point thirty on nine. If
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Speaker 3: you haven't seen what's happened so far, sorry for all
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Speaker 3: the spoilers, but you can catch up on the nine
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Speaker 3: now app. I think that's it. Thank you so much
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Speaker 3: to Justin rule On Jr. Our producer, for making the
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Speaker 3: podcast sound red hot during Parental Guidance season two, and
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Speaker 3: for Craig Bruce, our executive producer. The Happy Family podcast
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Speaker 3: back tomorrow for a recap of tonight's episode wherever you
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Speaker 3: download your podcasts.