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The Judge Returns (RHOC Reunion Part 2) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Jeedge.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so we are on for our final episode talking
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Speaker 2: about Orange County for this season to teas in a
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Speaker 2: Pod and a sea. We are so grateful to have you,
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Speaker 2: Cynthia and all of your hot takes. All Right, So
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Speaker 2: we're going to go through these best moments best slash
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Speaker 2: worst moments for some. But it starts off where Shannon
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Speaker 2: says on camera John was ready to take the next
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Speaker 2: step but dumped her after filming ended. Emily says that
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Speaker 2: Shannon shares things with people she's on a show with,
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Speaker 2: then acts like she doesn't understand how the show works.
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Speaker 2: Do we agree with Emily and that if you're on
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Speaker 2: a reality show, everything is fair game if it's shared
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Speaker 2: between the cast.
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Speaker 3: I think if you choose to be on the show,
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Speaker 3: you know, everything is fair game. Like for the most part.
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Speaker 3: The only time I will say you're crossing the line
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Speaker 3: is anything with kids, anything, it's kind of crossing line.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would have to agree with you
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Speaker 1: and say, like, if you're on a show, I know personally,
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Speaker 1: if I'm going to tell Emily, Gina, Heather, anybody anything,
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Speaker 1: there is a chance it's gonna be brought up later
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Speaker 1: on the show.
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Speaker 2: Now it's true you have.
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Speaker 1: Alliances with certain people on the show.
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Speaker 2: I can't take the word alliances.
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Speaker 1: You have ships with certain people on the show, and
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Speaker 1: maybe you you don't repeat certain things, like if I
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Speaker 1: have a friendship with Shannon and sometimes we talk and
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Speaker 1: we don't talk about the show, has nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with the show. And you know, if if I'm going
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Speaker 1: and telling this to somebody that's not necessarily my good
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Speaker 1: friend on the show, I got a good drink on purpose,
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Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's gonna come back and hit me
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Speaker 1: the face.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I think it's just smart.
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Speaker 1: Don't put anything in writing, don't say anything you don't
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Speaker 1: want repeated.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a slippery slope, especially when you're actually on
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Speaker 3: a show with someone, because you know, there's certain things
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Speaker 3: that if it plays out and it's just the truth
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Speaker 3: of what's happening, it's hard to be like, no, that
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Speaker 3: didn't happen, and then they show a flashback of it happening.
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Speaker 3: So I've gone through great links to try to protect
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Speaker 3: my friendships on the show as much as I could.
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Speaker 3: And then when I couldn't. It's kind of like, all right, well,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit this one out because I can't protect you.
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Speaker 3: But I like, there's things that have happened on and
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Speaker 3: off the show in some of our relationships that I
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Speaker 3: will literally take to the grave, like, no matter what
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Speaker 3: they say about me, too, will not do it because
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Speaker 3: that's just the kind of friend I am the off show,
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Speaker 3: that's just me.
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Speaker 2: But then once it is exposed, it is up to
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Speaker 2: that current housewife to then own up to those things
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Speaker 2: versus blame everybody else for those things happening, because clearly.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I dealt with this year. As soon
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Speaker 1: as it was brought up and I put my two
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Speaker 1: cents in, I'm getting blamed.
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Speaker 2: This is a lie.
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Speaker 1: You're lying.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not lying. I mean I felt like this
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Speaker 2: sad part for this was and I'm not saying I
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Speaker 2: would be any different. But do you think that John
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Speaker 2: enjoyed being on the show when everything was great for
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Speaker 2: him and he was getting that good everybody was loving him?
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, let me ask you this question. Do don't
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Speaker 1: most people enjoy being on the show. Don't most people
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Speaker 1: that have never been on TV and all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden you're on TV and everybody's praising you, and you're
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Speaker 1: getting special treatment and you know, getting reservations wherever you want. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think most people love being on the show.
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Speaker 3: I agree, it's so good. It's a great experience for them.
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Speaker 3: It's only when the bread dot is on their head.
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Speaker 1: But then, but then when things flip and then everybody
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Speaker 1: sees you for who you are and hate you, then
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Speaker 1: it's not fun on this show.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what I do appreciate about John is he
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be like one that's going on social media, commenting,
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Speaker 2: doing all the things. And that's similar to like Shane.
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Speaker 2: When Shane had his bad episode, like his bad season
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Speaker 2: when him and Emily first came on, Shane wasn't going
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Speaker 2: on and trying to fight like a fight like she
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Speaker 2: knew he came on as you know, a say, where
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Speaker 2: was Shane? Nor is Shane.
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Speaker 1: I can't stand when the guys get on there on
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Speaker 1: social media and try to defend themselves like little bitches.
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Speaker 1: I just can't stand it.
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Speaker 3: I can't stand that John was over there like yeah,
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Speaker 3: fighting for scenes. I made it literally seem like every
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Speaker 3: time he popped up on the screen. It was probably like,
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Speaker 3: oh my god, I just didn't feel like you ever
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Speaker 3: really wanted to shoot. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Do you think he was trying to protect Shannon? Do
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Speaker 2: you think yeah, he was telling her I want to
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Speaker 2: marry you and leading her on and doing those things
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Speaker 2: because he didn't want to hurt her on teletoon.
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Speaker 3: You know how time?
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Speaker 1: Do you know how many times my husband says has
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Speaker 1: said things on camera when you get put on the spot.
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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, what do you talk afterwards?
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Speaker 1: Why would you even say that? And he's like, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know what to say, Like I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 2: Edwin said the worst thing ever to me on camera,
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Speaker 2: still to this day, this worst thing he's ever said
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Speaker 2: to me in the history of our relationship. He said
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Speaker 2: it to me on my first season and it was
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Speaker 2: never shown. And still to this day, I think my
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Speaker 2: lucky stars because men go in, they clamp up, and
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Speaker 2: then they say stupid shit that in real life you
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Speaker 2: can laugh off or say, go yourself, Yeah, but I
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Speaker 2: think those men can't think ten steps ahead.
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Speaker 1: And when you're playing, when you're on the show, you
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Speaker 1: have to If I say this, like, am I going
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Speaker 1: to get like a flashback of me doing that?
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Like, so like Eddie doesn't think he does well, whatever
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Speaker 1: he says, whatever he wants to say, and sometimes look
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Speaker 1: like why would you say that?
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Speaker 3: And I think I think the women on the show
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Speaker 3: are just a little bit more aware of how the
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Speaker 3: smallest thing can turn into a big thing. So we're like,
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Speaker 3: I don't really like self edit, but we're not stupid.
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Speaker 3: It after like a couple of seasons, like there's nothing
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Speaker 3: like first season where you're like, Okay, I get it now.
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Speaker 2: I get it now. Yeah, I will say.
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Speaker 1: Eddie got to know John a little bit while we
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Speaker 1: were filming, and I asked him, I said, do you
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Speaker 1: feel like he's just once camera time? He goes, No,
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Speaker 1: not at all. I don't feel like he's I don't
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Speaker 1: get that impression from him.
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it. Man, just don't seem like
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Speaker 3: he's as in love with Shannon as Shannon is the man.
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Speaker 3: That's just what I'm saying. I'm just saying two people,
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Speaker 3: two great people that just don't work together.
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Speaker 1: Well, it seems like they have a very toxic relationship
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Speaker 1: and you throw alcohol and you throw TV cameras in
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Speaker 1: front of it, and it's not gonna end, Well.
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Speaker 3: What about?
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Speaker 2: To me? This was a really big red And listen,
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Speaker 2: every time I've ever been around Shannon, I have absolutely
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Speaker 2: loved She has been nothing but kind and funny, she
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Speaker 2: loves to make herself too seriously all of these things.
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Speaker 2: But when she started making the proclamations on this second
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Speaker 2: episode where I'm just.
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Speaker 4: Gonna be sharing storms with dor and I'm doing this
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Speaker 4: show but I've shown more than everybody else and I
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Speaker 4: did this and I did that, I wonder like, is
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Speaker 4: she doing this because she's feeling so down in this
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Speaker 4: moment that she's just going to throw out anything she can,
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Speaker 4: or like, why.
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Speaker 2: Was that happening?
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Speaker 1: I disagreed when she did that and said I did this.
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Speaker 1: We've all done a lot of things. I've been on
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Speaker 1: the show for thirteen fourteen, I don't remember how many years,
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Speaker 1: thirteen years, and I've gone through a lot. Gina's gone
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Speaker 1: through a lot. A lot of us have gone through
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Speaker 1: a lot on the show. So's she's not doing any
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Speaker 1: better than anybody else.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree. I agree. When I saw it,
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Speaker 3: I was like, I've literally given the blood out of
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Speaker 3: my veins to Atlanta, Okay, to divorces my child came
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Speaker 3: out flew them the show like anything that really happened
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Speaker 3: in my life. I gave it to the Real House
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Speaker 3: of Atlanta. And I did it because I signed up
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Speaker 3: to be on the show, right, So you don't get
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Speaker 3: like an extra point for actually showing your reality. And
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, some things are harder to show
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Speaker 3: than others, like and that's it really is good TV
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Speaker 3: when it actually is thankful to actually show it go
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Speaker 3: through it. But we we've all done that, and that's
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Speaker 3: what a reality story is.
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Speaker 2: I all issue with people talking about themselves and the
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Speaker 2: third person. I just I do too, I really, I
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Speaker 2: it just I don't know why it makes me feel
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Speaker 2: a certain way, but I'm like, please, please don't do that.
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Speaker 2: And also I can't help myself. I don't call her
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Speaker 2: Shannon storms the Door. I don't. I just call her Shan.
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Speaker 1: Do you call him John Jensen, John Johns.
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Speaker 2: I do call him John Jansen. I do. But the
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Speaker 2: next part that left me feeling a little bit confused,
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Speaker 2: is it not only does she keep breaking the fourth
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Speaker 2: wall and saying, you know, this is a television show
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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, and I've given this. I was like,
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Speaker 2: this is kind of a kiss of death when you
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Speaker 2: start saying those things and then they're actually airing it.
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Speaker 2: But then when she bold face said she doesn't like Gina,
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Speaker 2: I I know there are moments where I'm like, this
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Speaker 2: person isn't my favorite, or we're probably not friends, or
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Speaker 2: we're not that close. But has there ever been a
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Speaker 2: person to either of you guys, that you have said
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Speaker 2: that about on a show, or that you feel that
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Speaker 2: way to this day where you could just because even
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Speaker 2: my biggest issue when I was on Beverly Hills, the
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Speaker 2: person who everyone knows, I still wouldn't say I just
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Speaker 2: don't like you. I would say, like, we have.
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Speaker 1: Issues, You're not my type of girl.
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Speaker 2: It's all I have to say.
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Speaker 3: There's a way to say it, for sure. But you
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Speaker 3: know what I learned early on on being in Atlanta
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Speaker 3: was there is some comfort in knowing if you just
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Speaker 3: really don't like me, because that way I can just
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Speaker 3: navigate around you. You just put it out there and
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Speaker 3: that's what it is. Then it's easy to go against you.
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Speaker 3: It's easy to hold you on fire time like it's
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Speaker 3: it's actually a blessed to be like, okay, so we're
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Speaker 3: not gonna be we're gonna be enemies on the ship.
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Speaker 3: So this is clear, because the relationships gets super confusing
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Speaker 3: sometimes when you're on a show together. It really really does.
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Speaker 3: So if you're just gonna declare yourself and put it
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Speaker 3: out there you don't like me, then okay. If you
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Speaker 3: don't like me, and I don't feel like I've really
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Speaker 3: done anything where I can't at least get a chance
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Speaker 3: for us to try to work on a relationship, all right,
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Speaker 3: let's go. You don't like me, then I don't really
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Speaker 3: focus any energy on you.
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Speaker 2: Wait, don't you think that can shift? Like I toually
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Speaker 2: think that at the beginning me and Erica, the two
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Speaker 2: of us did not like one another. And I can
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Speaker 2: say with one hundred percent certainty that shifted.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But isn't that the nature of the show. We
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Speaker 1: see friendships go up and down, You get to know people.
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Speaker 2: Do you like him? Yeah, maybe not at this.
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Speaker 1: Moment, Maybe you do next week. But you know, Shannon
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Speaker 1: says she's like Gina because she accused Shannon of masking
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Speaker 1: her divorce with alcohol. To me, that was just Gina's opinion.
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Speaker 1: That was one statement that Gina made that made Shannon
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Speaker 1: in her head.
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Speaker 3: Go, I don't like you.
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Speaker 1: That's the reason why I don't like you. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's a valid reason. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it's not enough, but I do feel when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the show, if anything is said to Shannon about drinking,
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Speaker 1: it's very much a trigger to her to dislike somebody.
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Speaker 2: Which is actually the hardest part of this discussion. You know.
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Speaker 2: I think even when we saw leading into this episode
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Speaker 2: where it's like this happened two weeks prior to shan'sy
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Speaker 2: like all of it, it's just incredibly heartbreaking. I do
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Speaker 2: believe that everybody makes mistakes, and clearly this was hers,
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Speaker 2: but toppled with bringing up Gina's kids, bold face, saying
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Speaker 2: you don't like Gina, all of it, it just it
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Speaker 2: gave me the ink where it's like, I feel like, listen,
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Speaker 2: do I think that all three of us on this
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Speaker 2: podcast can do up things? One hundred percent?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nobody on the cast I can say I
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Speaker 1: dislike or hate nobody.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one at all.
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Speaker 1: I mean, even the problems with me and Jhen, I
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Speaker 1: don't hate her. I don't at all. I don't like
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Speaker 1: what went down the season. I feel bad for some
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Speaker 1: of the things, but I also hold her accountable as well,
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Speaker 1: So you know, you don't go on a reality show
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Speaker 1: with all this baggage and think, oh, it's not gonna
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Speaker 1: come on the show.
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Speaker 2: No one's gonna know, Well what about you.
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Speaker 3: I just feel like with any job, any situation with women,
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Speaker 3: some people are just gonna connect with more than others.
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Speaker 3: You're just gonna like more than others. It just is
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Speaker 3: what it is. Is you know everyone you know, don't
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Speaker 3: They don't have to like each other. I think there's
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Speaker 3: a certain respect that has to happen between each other
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Speaker 3: if they're going to co exist on a show like this.
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Speaker 3: But I can honestly say there were definitely times where,
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Speaker 3: you know, I was around people that probably didn't really
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Speaker 3: like me, and I didn't really care for them, but
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Speaker 3: I need to publicly say for them. No, I would
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Speaker 3: never say I don't like this person's.
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Speaker 2: That was just trying to hurt somebody. That's like, that's
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Speaker 2: not Shane. That's like what.
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Speaker 3: It was, and it came off hurtful the way the
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Speaker 3: way she delivered it was very hurtful. Now they're sitting
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Speaker 3: together and it's like, hey, you know what, I just
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Speaker 3: don't really feel like I've connected with you. It's not
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Speaker 3: that I don't like you, but I don't like what
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Speaker 3: we are and I don't feel in connection with you,
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Speaker 3: which is pretty much basically, you're not my girl, You're
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Speaker 3: not my cup of tea whatever.
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Speaker 1: I also think you say things at the reunion, like
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Speaker 1: my comment back to Jen Jen was defensive, where I
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Speaker 1: say you're a piece of shit or something like that,
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Speaker 1: or your horrible person, and I I go cheater like
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Speaker 1: that because I knew that bugged her, even though I
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Speaker 1: didn't give a shit about her cheat and her husband.
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Speaker 1: So that part right there, like sometimes you come back
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Speaker 1: with things because you're just pissed off because two seconds
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Speaker 1: before that, I said, I think you're a wonderful person.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like so sometimes, well, I asked, I actually
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Speaker 2: asked Emily, I said, what is your biggest regret from
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Speaker 2: this reunion? And she said, my biggest regret is that
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Speaker 2: I allow Heather to annoy me so badly that I
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Speaker 2: laughed out at her instead of arguing with her calmly
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Speaker 2: and coolly. If I could have kept my cool with her,
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Speaker 2: I could have gotten my point across better, and I
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Speaker 2: let my anger come out as aggression versus just Emily
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Speaker 2: don't stop.
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Speaker 1: That's why you're good TV. Emily is a top tier housewife.
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Speaker 1: She's doing all the things she's supposed to do, but.
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Speaker 2: Then her face, my la. Her other thing that she
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Speaker 2: said to me is and by the way, let everybody
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Speaker 2: know that Judy is the new Karen.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to start using Judy Judy. I don't think
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Speaker 1: I know any duties.
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Speaker 2: I don't I know a Judith. Does that count? Yes?
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Speaker 2: But either way, then we get into Emily tells Heather
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Speaker 2: that she has no sense of humor. Heather says that
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Speaker 2: is rude, and Emily said it is rude to call
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Speaker 2: her snuffle up. I guess they go back and forth. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I think there's a difference, and tell me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between having a sense of
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Speaker 2: humor and also not taking yourself too seriously. I think
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Speaker 2: you can be funny but also take yourself too seriously.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's where these it was lost in
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Speaker 2: translation here. Yeah, I think Heather.
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Speaker 1: I think Heather does have a sense of humor one percent.
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Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time with her. She's funny.
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Speaker 1: But I think what Heather Heather's very sensitive, so little
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Speaker 1: things really really hurt her. Like one time I asked her,
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Speaker 1: I said, why are you mad? What did you think that?
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Speaker 1: I said, like you said, you know, every episode I
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Speaker 1: said something negative about you, and she said to me, well,
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Speaker 1: you told me to eat and I went, what like that?
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Speaker 1: That to me was like, you need to eat, Like
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Speaker 1: we're filming and sometimes we don't eat when we film.
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Speaker 1: You need to eat, you need energy.
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Speaker 2: But the problem is that because of things that have
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Speaker 2: been written online are the things. But that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that, Like I'm just saying, you need
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Speaker 1: to eat. And so I'm saying my point is she's
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Speaker 1: sensitive and maybe because somebody has said to her you're
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Speaker 1: too thin or you're whatever, and it was a trigger
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Speaker 1: to her. And I'm like, oh, I didn't know that, Like,
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Speaker 1: that's not what my point was. But so she's very sensitive,
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Speaker 1: very very sensitive, and I think, more so this season
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Speaker 1: was more sensitive than I've ever seen her. And she
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Speaker 1: agrees she's going.
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Speaker 2: My favorite quote of this entire reunion was what Emily
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Speaker 2: says that Heather called Tamra an asshole, and Heather goes,
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Speaker 2: she is an asshole and then turns to Tamra and says,
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Speaker 2: and I love you and sometimes you are an asshole,
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Speaker 2: and Charmer says, but we were on good terms better
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Speaker 2: an asshole. Yet I don't even I don't.
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Speaker 1: Even remember what we were talking about exactly then, but uh,
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Speaker 1: I can't even remember.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was.
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Speaker 1: Was it about the coming out of the bathroom and
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Speaker 1: talking to the old producer and she looked at us
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Speaker 1: and said, get me off this show.
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Speaker 2: I think that's what it wows. It was a little
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Speaker 2: slice of Heaven't.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like I had even been an
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Speaker 1: asshole too.
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Speaker 3: And I love that moment because I mean true be told,
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Speaker 3: I mean you definitely are an asshole a lot. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and that actually, for some reason, HiT's different than me
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Speaker 3: said I don't like you for some reason perspective, It's
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Speaker 3: like I rest somebody called me an asshole, then tell
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Speaker 3: me they just actually don't like me.
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Speaker 2: Also, did you notice that like with the filming when
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Speaker 2: they were like asshole, like they they like their mouths
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Speaker 2: like I was like, oh my god, yeah, but yeah, no.
18:04
Speaker 3: I don't know a vocabulary in general, like vocabulary like
18:10
Speaker 3: the word like she like when she like when her
18:12
Speaker 3: breaths are very much like, okay, let me google this.
18:14
Speaker 1: Well, I know she's super smart. That's why I started
18:17
Speaker 1: calling her. That's why I started calling her fancy pants
18:20
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm like, I don't know can you can
18:22
Speaker 1: you dumb it down? I don't know what you're talking about?
18:24
Speaker 3: Please know how to respond? Like I was like, I
18:26
Speaker 3: don't think I would want to spar with her because
18:28
Speaker 3: I don't even know how what she's saying. Yeah, she's
18:30
Speaker 3: very intelligent.
18:32
Speaker 2: Well, she did have a good way of kind of
18:34
Speaker 2: like Andy would start a question and then she would
18:37
Speaker 2: finish the question to her favor. I was like, you're good.
18:42
Speaker 2: Can we I don't even know if I'm skipping around,
18:44
Speaker 2: but can we talk?
18:45
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're at this point.
18:47
Speaker 2: Well I've skipped because I got too excited. When Tarama
18:50
Speaker 2: snapped at Andy.
18:54
Speaker 1: Who okay, listen, so he had he had asked a
18:58
Speaker 1: question that was and then he goes and says like, well,
19:04
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, you had said things about them.
19:07
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, let me answer the question. It's like
19:12
Speaker 1: me saying, but Teddy, in twenty twenty two, he said
19:15
Speaker 1: something bad about me like, I'm like, why are you
19:18
Speaker 1: trying to like change this scenario.
19:21
Speaker 3: What did you say? Like, you said two things like
19:23
Speaker 3: golf and stop it. You need to shut up? You
19:27
Speaker 3: say to shut up.
19:28
Speaker 2: She also said I think you send dick pics.
19:32
Speaker 1: We but I have that kind of relationship with Andy
19:35
Speaker 1: where I can go back and forth with him afterwards,
19:38
Speaker 1: like he didn't say a word. Then we were at
19:39
Speaker 1: Watch Happens Live and Eddie's like, oh, I heard my
19:41
Speaker 1: wife went after you. He goes, that's nothing like we
19:44
Speaker 1: laughed about it. There's people out there going, oh, she's
19:46
Speaker 1: gonna lose her job now she went up against Annie. No,
19:49
Speaker 1: that's good.
19:50
Speaker 2: Now that's how he just tells me. He leaves you. Yeah,
19:52
Speaker 2: but he was like, all right, fair, it's fair.
19:56
Speaker 1: Well, I had made a point that you know, when
20:00
Speaker 1: I was off the show, it was okay for Real
20:04
Speaker 1: House in Orange County to continue to They talked about
20:06
Speaker 1: me in every single episode the year I was gone,
20:11
Speaker 1: every single episode, and it was the girl saying things
20:14
Speaker 1: like she's satan, she's this, and all these things. So
20:16
Speaker 1: do you think, knowing me, I'm gonna sit back and
20:19
Speaker 1: just go, oh, okay, I'm not gonna say a word
20:22
Speaker 1: about that. So, yeah, I did say things. I absolutely
20:26
Speaker 1: said things, and I told Andy, I go, is that okay?
20:29
Speaker 2: He's like, hmmm, I get your point now, Well I
20:43
Speaker 2: was thinking right when you did it, I was like, shit,
20:45
Speaker 2: has camera snapped at me like that yet? I don't
20:49
Speaker 2: think you have.
20:50
Speaker 1: No, I don't have anything to argue with you about.
20:53
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's find something. Do you think I
20:56
Speaker 2: would cry if you did? What would my response be?
21:00
Speaker 1: It depends. If you're drunk, you just get mean, true facts.
21:06
Speaker 1: Drunk she has Oh she has this where she's funny. Yeah, yeah,
21:10
Speaker 1: fun and then when it's too much alcohol, it's mean, mean,
21:14
Speaker 1: mean mean And I know not now, I know not.
21:17
Speaker 2: To take it seriously. Yeah, I mean we saw it once,
21:24
Speaker 2: but that's I mean, it's it's lucky. I get two
21:26
Speaker 2: times a year where I can do it.
21:28
Speaker 3: I'm happy, I'm a happy and then very sleepy drunk.
21:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy, sloppy sleepy.
21:36
Speaker 3: I don't know.
21:37
Speaker 2: We also so we saw napkin throwing.
21:41
Speaker 1: Happy, sloppy mean sleepy?
21:44
Speaker 3: How's that camera? What is what is your biggest regret
21:48
Speaker 3: of the season coming back? What is your biggest regret?
21:53
Speaker 1: I think probably the you know how in detailed the
21:58
Speaker 1: gen stuff god and how it just got rep that
22:01
Speaker 1: was like I should have said my piece, said whatever
22:03
Speaker 1: and just let it go. I think throwing the napkin
22:07
Speaker 1: in her face was probably that, like the best thing.
22:10
Speaker 1: When she said to me like I had the hots
22:12
Speaker 1: for her boyfriend, I'm like, no, sweetie, I have a
22:16
Speaker 1: pretty hot husband.
22:17
Speaker 2: In the moment when you threw the napkin, because I
22:20
Speaker 2: couldn't talk to you about this stuff during filming when
22:23
Speaker 2: you threw the napkin, did you notice in the moment, shit,
22:26
Speaker 2: I just really screwed this up or we were like,
22:29
Speaker 2: she's not not in the moment. Not in the moment.
22:31
Speaker 1: I was too drunk, and part of my problem was
22:33
Speaker 1: the season as I drank too much and as you know,
22:35
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not much of a drinker, like I.
22:38
Speaker 3: Love Yeah, yeah, that's such a real thing. And for me,
22:43
Speaker 3: like one of my biggest regrets on the eleven years
22:46
Speaker 3: I did Atlanta is when I actually kicked Porsche like
22:50
Speaker 3: I still to this day like hate. Then I was
22:52
Speaker 3: drinking too. We're on the boat and yeah eaten, and
22:54
Speaker 3: I was going through whatever I was going through and
22:58
Speaker 3: till this day, that's like, how did I let myself
23:02
Speaker 3: do that? And thank god we were able to just
23:04
Speaker 3: get on the other side of it really quickly and
23:07
Speaker 3: move on. But that is one go down my biggest regret.
23:11
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think I think all
23:18
Speaker 2: in all, we saw the positives of every single woman
23:21
Speaker 2: on Orange County and we also saw some negatives for
23:24
Speaker 2: each one of them, which is where I think, you know,
23:26
Speaker 2: you have a dynamic cast. And I think towards the
23:31
Speaker 2: end when Tamra and Heather kind of have the moment
23:35
Speaker 2: and Tamra says she's always loved Heather and it's very
23:38
Speaker 2: difficult to not have Heather in her life, and Tamra
23:40
Speaker 2: said she wants to move forward, and then Heather says
23:42
Speaker 2: something along the lines of like you're my housewife, vampire.
23:46
Speaker 2: We're like, I'm going to get it wrong, but like
23:49
Speaker 2: you suck my blood, and then I, you know, whatever
23:51
Speaker 2: it made.
23:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's been telling me that from day one,
23:55
Speaker 1: for ten years or however long it's been I've done her.
23:57
Speaker 2: But I actually think it's truth. I think that, but
24:00
Speaker 2: you guys are so different but also so similar in
24:04
Speaker 2: certain ways. Yeah, that it really makes dynamic television. It
24:07
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a television friendship. Even though you guys
24:12
Speaker 2: aren't always in the best place. Like you guys are
24:16
Speaker 2: actually trying to be the most authentic that you can be,
24:20
Speaker 2: and your most authentic self will sometimes drive each other freakin' mad.
24:23
Speaker 1: I think we've never had a problem. We've always had
24:26
Speaker 1: a really good friendship. I think coming back knowing, you know,
24:30
Speaker 1: not knowing where my place was, knowing that those things
24:32
Speaker 1: were said on the podcast, and then hearing from other
24:34
Speaker 1: cast members that you know, what was said about me
24:37
Speaker 1: from her, it really spun my head. And of course
24:39
Speaker 1: I'm coming back and I want to make a statement.
24:42
Speaker 1: You know this this show. I'm not saying I'm coming
24:44
Speaker 1: back just to make a statement, but you're a little
24:46
Speaker 1: bit more heightened, just a little bit, and I think
24:49
Speaker 1: that you know, these are things that you have in
24:52
Speaker 1: your back pocket that you're like, you know, what are
24:55
Speaker 1: we doing?
24:56
Speaker 2: What are we talking about?
24:56
Speaker 3: Do you like me?
24:57
Speaker 2: Do you not like me? Like?
24:58
Speaker 1: We went over this a million times, so now I
25:02
Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever go back to that. We're going
25:05
Speaker 1: to lunch next week. I'm going to La hopefully seeing
25:08
Speaker 1: one of her two houses that she bought in la
25:10
Speaker 1: hopefully both of them, and just you know, taken it
25:14
Speaker 1: back to where it was. I think dislikes you the most, Jen, probably,
25:20
Speaker 1: but I think Jen knows I'm right. You know, Jen
25:22
Speaker 1: reached out to Taylor to ask how I was, and
25:27
Speaker 1: you know, she could have easily reached out to me directly.
25:31
Speaker 1: She knows I would never like go off on her,
25:33
Speaker 1: even though she probably was afraid because she knows that
25:35
Speaker 1: her and Ryan both have been going after me in
25:36
Speaker 1: the press. And you know, as much as I don't
25:39
Speaker 1: like it and it's coming out of left field, I
25:41
Speaker 1: don't understand it, It's not the best look for her.
25:46
Speaker 3: I really wish Jen had spoken up more in the
25:48
Speaker 3: season about like like, I would have liked to have
25:51
Speaker 3: seen you guys like go through all this more on
25:53
Speaker 3: camera because friendship was very, very confusing for me. And
25:57
Speaker 3: what you know, the reason why I was kind of like,
25:59
Speaker 3: you know, team Jen a lot Indian was because she
26:02
Speaker 3: said it and once you know, everybody made it clear
26:04
Speaker 3: that this guy was you guys didn't think that he
26:06
Speaker 3: was a great guy for her. I felt like I
26:09
Speaker 3: never saw scenes where Jen was asking for you guys
26:12
Speaker 3: opinions in the first place, like like she was like
26:15
Speaker 3: sitting you guys, you guys, what should I do? Like
26:19
Speaker 3: I never saw saying what she seemed like she actually wanted.
26:22
Speaker 2: Wanted any feedback.
26:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, but other, don't you feel like other than her
26:27
Speaker 1: scenes with Ryan, she really didn't get into the mix
26:30
Speaker 1: much at all. Well, I think didn't have a lot
26:34
Speaker 1: to say to any of the girls.
26:36
Speaker 2: Well, I think then.
26:38
Speaker 3: She talked about it with Gina a little bit and
26:39
Speaker 3: they talked about something else.
26:40
Speaker 2: I can't Oh, well that where Gina was really upsetting
26:43
Speaker 2: because she cheated and all those things. I think we
26:46
Speaker 2: have to understand who Jen is outside of a relationship
26:51
Speaker 2: with Ryan, because that's all we have seen so only
26:55
Speaker 2: seeing a like frant like, if you only see me
26:59
Speaker 2: and Edwin to you're gonna see Yeah, you're gonna see
27:01
Speaker 2: fifty percent of who I am. But if you see
27:04
Speaker 2: me outside of my relationship with that, I'm not gonna
27:06
Speaker 2: say I'm a different person, but you're gonna see a
27:08
Speaker 2: whole nother layer.
27:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
27:10
Speaker 2: And if you only see somebody through somebody else's eyes
27:14
Speaker 2: and what you want, you know, people to see, it's
27:17
Speaker 2: it's not authentic. And that's what I think we're missing.
27:20
Speaker 2: I want her to.
27:22
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's such a good point because when
27:24
Speaker 3: I came on with Peter, my husband who I married
27:28
Speaker 3: my first season on the show, Peter has a very
27:30
Speaker 3: big TV personality. I got drowned by him. Like, you know,
27:34
Speaker 3: it's like I was like, oh, you know, Cynthia doesn't
27:36
Speaker 3: have a boy, she doesn't have this whatever whatever, because
27:39
Speaker 3: he was just such a strong personality, was always like
27:42
Speaker 3: barking all the time and like you know, making you know,
27:45
Speaker 3: his two cents known. And that was at a time
27:46
Speaker 3: where the men really weren't even doing that on the show.
27:49
Speaker 3: So he like definitely came in hot, but that's just
27:52
Speaker 3: who he is, and it just made me On one hand,
27:55
Speaker 3: I guess people were like, oh my god, it's so
27:56
Speaker 3: you know, they would think, well, he's helping her be
28:00
Speaker 3: you know, imported on the show. But at the same time,
28:02
Speaker 3: it was hurting me at the same time because I
28:04
Speaker 3: didn't have a voice, I was weak because you know,
28:06
Speaker 3: it felt like he was kind of running a lot
28:08
Speaker 3: of things. So you know, it could go either way
28:12
Speaker 3: with that whole thing, and I feel like the Brian
28:14
Speaker 3: they can definitely outshadow who, you know.
28:16
Speaker 2: Who whatever it is. We're watching at this point, and
28:19
Speaker 2: I think if she can come in and and possibly
28:22
Speaker 2: build a real relationship with somebody on the show, I
28:26
Speaker 2: think there is a future for her. But I think
28:28
Speaker 2: right now she's just dabbing her feet wherever, like you know,
28:31
Speaker 2: wherever she can.
28:33
Speaker 1: Like I think, unfortunately what's going on in social media
28:37
Speaker 1: and things I've heard, I think that she's gonna want
28:39
Speaker 1: to come back this season continuing this. You know this,
28:44
Speaker 1: all this stuff about Ryan, and I'm telling you right now,
28:47
Speaker 1: I'm not going there. I said what I had to say.
28:49
Speaker 1: I'm done with it.
28:51
Speaker 2: Move on.
28:51
Speaker 3: We don't even want to see too much more.
28:53
Speaker 1: I know nobody, but I feel like that's that's gonna happen.
28:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just say I don't care. You
28:59
Speaker 2: guys are have you're happy. I want to hear another
29:01
Speaker 2: word about it, and then if you need me when
29:03
Speaker 2: he cheats again, I'm.
29:05
Speaker 3: Here, Like you guys seriously have to close it in
29:07
Speaker 3: the first episode and be like, okay, sit down, have
29:09
Speaker 3: that drink, go on the boat. You guys love going
29:11
Speaker 3: boats and staff have a conversation. It's done, and then
29:16
Speaker 3: we hear no more about it, and then she has
29:18
Speaker 3: to show us some other staff like, yeah, but I
29:20
Speaker 3: would like to see her get a second season because
29:22
Speaker 3: first seasons hard, like you just don't know what you're doing, honestly,
29:25
Speaker 3: and then Ryan up so much of her story that
29:27
Speaker 3: you know, we were just like okay, whatever.
29:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I try, like if you're happy, then you know,
29:32
Speaker 1: more power to you. And I hope to see I
29:34
Speaker 1: hope to see another side of you, guys, because.
29:36
Speaker 2: What I'm not you guys, just her. We don't need
29:40
Speaker 2: to know so much about him. I don't watch the
29:41
Speaker 2: housewives to watch the husbands.
29:43
Speaker 1: He thinks he's a cast member, like a full blown
29:46
Speaker 1: cast member.
29:47
Speaker 2: Well, he should have shown up to the reunion, because
29:49
Speaker 2: if you're a cast member and you don't come to
29:51
Speaker 2: the reunion, you get fined.
29:52
Speaker 3: You know.
29:52
Speaker 1: Could you imagine it?
29:53
Speaker 3: Literally every episode they literally added Peter to a lineup,
29:59
Speaker 3: each of them.
30:00
Speaker 1: Could you imagine me and Eddie after every episode going,
30:03
Speaker 1: let's recap this episode, what do you think, Gutty? He
30:06
Speaker 1: would rather poke his eyeballs out Peter.
30:10
Speaker 3: They had him right there the whole time, and I
30:12
Speaker 3: was like, he gave him a nickname. Patricia was like
30:15
Speaker 3: crazy for the next ten years. Oh god, this is crazy.
30:23
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well you guys. I had so much
30:25
Speaker 2: fun with you. Cynthia. We appreciate you stepping in and
30:30
Speaker 2: doing all that you do. We want you to keep
30:32
Speaker 2: coming on with us. And Tamra, thank you so much
30:35
Speaker 2: for entertaining us this season. Oh I'm so glad it over.
30:38
Speaker 3: Guys.
30:39
Speaker 2: We needed you do it.
30:41
Speaker 3: No, you definitely killed it. The season would not have
30:43
Speaker 3: been the same without you. Even when I was like,
30:45
Speaker 3: oh man, what is happening like, it was like it
30:48
Speaker 3: just moved the season and I'm hooked. I'm invested in you, guys,
30:52
Speaker 3: regardless of whether I recap or not.
30:54
Speaker 2: She's gonna keep watching, whether she's getting paid.
30:58
Speaker 1: I gotta see what's gonna I'm ready some peace yye guys,
31:04
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck with that peace camera. Now I
31:07
Speaker 1: have to deal with you all right.
31:10
Speaker 2: Bye guys, Bye,