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The Kenny Report | 20 August · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Lone from the sky New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining our later shorter Kenny Report. I'll squeeze
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Speaker 3: plenty in. Don't you worry If the security checks for
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Speaker 3: people coming here from Gaza are adequate, why have some
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Speaker 3: visas been canceled after they were approved? This issue dominated
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Speaker 3: federal politics again today.
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Speaker 2: Out with the old and in with the new. The
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Speaker 2: Democrat Convention in Chicago.
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Speaker 3: Here is from Joe Biden and from Kamala Harris and
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Speaker 3: another short circuit in the electric vehicle rollout. Christiy McSweeney
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Speaker 3: and James macpherson will join me. Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: Parliament was today again dominated by the issue of tourist
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Speaker 3: visas issued to people fleeing Hummus controlled Gaza, as the
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Speaker 3: Coalition probed the level of security checks made.
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Speaker 2: As it was.
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Speaker 3: Revealed Australia is leading the world in accepting Palestinians fleeing Gaza,
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Speaker 3: with thirty ten hundred people already in Australia. It's also
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Speaker 3: been revealed that forty three of the visas granted have
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Speaker 3: since been canceled, then twenty of them reinstated on appeal,
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Speaker 3: raising the question of how and why they were ever
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Speaker 3: approved by minister.
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Speaker 4: How many of the two nine hundred visas from Gaza
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Speaker 4: have been canceled? How many of the two nine hundred
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Speaker 4: visas from Gaza have been canceled? How many of the
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Speaker 4: twy nine hundred visas of people on shore from Gaza.
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Speaker 2: Have been canceled.
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Speaker 3: No matter how many times they asked, the Coalition did
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Speaker 3: not get an answer.
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Speaker 5: And they could have asked a question about cost of living,
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Speaker 5: could have asked the question about order from about the
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Speaker 5: visit of the President elect of Indonesia.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister just wants this issue to go away,
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Speaker 3: but we need answers. Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Pattison
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Speaker 3: will join me on the issue in just a moment.
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Speaker 2: The Democrat Convention.
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Speaker 3: Kicked off in Chicago today, and boy don't the Americans
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Speaker 3: do political schmaltz and theater like nobody else. We heard
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Speaker 3: from Hillary Clinton and President Joe Biden, but also there
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Speaker 3: was a short word from the Vice President and presumptive
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Speaker 3: presidential candidate Kamala Harris. And after sounding like Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 3: and Anthony Albanisi on grocery prices the other day, well
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Speaker 3: today she sounded like Julia Gillard and this November.
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Speaker 2: We will come together and declare, with one voice, as
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Speaker 2: one people, we are moving.
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Speaker 3: Forward, moving forward. Hey sounds familiar, doesn't it. Yeah, we
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Speaker 3: heard a lot of that back in the day.
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Speaker 6: Together. Let's move Australia forward together. Let's move Australia forward.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Julia Gillard said it so often that even the
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Speaker 3: leftist media mocked it.
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Speaker 6: Moving forward, moved forward together, move Australia forward. Moving forward
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Speaker 6: also means moving forward.
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Speaker 3: Moving forward means moving forward, and triple j remixed it
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Speaker 3: into a wrap clip.
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Speaker 6: Forward forward, go back forward, downwards backwards under my leadership,
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Speaker 6: We'll move forward, lord, go back forward downwards backwards.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't go a long way forward in the end.
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Speaker 3: And now it's Kamala Harris promising to move America forward.
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Speaker 2: We shall see.
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Speaker 3: I have more on the Democrats big day with Tom Switzer.
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Speaker 3: Shortly now to the omni shambles that is the new
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Speaker 3: South Wales Liberal Party. The state director, of course, has
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Speaker 3: quit over the inconceivable failure to nominate one hundred and
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Speaker 3: forty candidates for local government elections, but the state President,
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Speaker 3: Don Harwen remains even as the factual factional infighting continues
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Speaker 3: over this cluster mess.
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Speaker 2: The party is.
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Speaker 3: Overrun with factional rivalries. These people are not focused on
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Speaker 3: the true purpose of the party. There's pressure on how
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Speaker 3: and to go And as promised, here's a new tailor
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Speaker 3: made satirical version of not Responsible aired on two GB
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Speaker 3: by Ray Hadley thanks to his collaboration with the Robertson brothers.
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Speaker 6: Oh please don how when you make.
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Speaker 1: My swear your copper tip. No, please don't tell me
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Speaker 1: if that you haven't last your grip. No, please don't
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Speaker 1: tell me that you should be get.
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Speaker 7: The boot go as you're.
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Speaker 1: A one on one first class girl. Don't thinks that.
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Speaker 8: Love nats not profansiable.
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Speaker 1: Shot nats not profansiable.
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Speaker 9: She brus really struggling with Avocallet's.
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Speaker 1: Few things is now that sponsor sponser Junham doesn't.
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Speaker 2: Have yeah a lot of fun He's sticking around. What
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Speaker 2: a disgrace.
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Speaker 3: So many Liberal Party members and potential voters let down
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Speaker 3: and no one taking responsibility. The New South Wales Libs
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Speaker 3: have got to lift their game in time for the
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Speaker 3: federal election. They're stuck down to Canberra and catch up
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Speaker 3: with Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson. James, thanks for
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Speaker 3: joining us this news that visas have been canceled. Visas
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Speaker 3: issued to people from Gaza canceled, some of them reinstated
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Speaker 3: on review. Do we have any idea of the exact
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Speaker 3: numbers or why they were canceled.
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Speaker 7: Chris, No one in Canberra is any the wiser as
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Speaker 7: to what the government is talking about when they're talking
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Speaker 7: about the number of visas that they've canceled. They've been
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Speaker 7: putting out these numbers to try and make it look
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Speaker 7: like systems working, and they're tough. They've said there's forty
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Speaker 7: three visas canceled. At the moment, they're refusing to say
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Speaker 7: what that is about. But in February this year, a
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Speaker 7: spokesman for Clara O'Neill implied that it was for security reasons.
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Speaker 7: It may be for security reasons, but also twenty of
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Speaker 7: those were overturned on appeal, so hopefully it wasn't for
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Speaker 7: security reasons if they were overturned on appeal and allowed
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Speaker 7: to come to this country. I mean, the truth is
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Speaker 7: that the government is obfuscating here. They don't want to
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Speaker 7: be transparent about this because they've got a lot to hide.
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Speaker 7: This is a government that has brought people in at
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Speaker 7: record rates on tourist visas far faster and in far
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Speaker 7: greater numbers than any of our like minded partners or friends.
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Speaker 3: Now, one of the bits of information that we need,
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Speaker 3: that the Coalition asked in Parliament today and we've got
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Speaker 3: no answers on, is whether any of these visas have
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Speaker 3: been canceled for people who are already in Australia, or
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Speaker 3: were these visas canceled for people who are waiting to
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Speaker 3: come here from Gaza. This makes a huge difference, doesn't it.
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Speaker 7: It certainly does, Chris, And again the government is not
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Speaker 7: publicly being clear about that. I understand their briefing journalists
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Speaker 7: furiously off the record trying to imply that none of
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Speaker 7: those that were canceled were in Australia, but some of
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Speaker 7: them were in transit to Australia, and I understand some
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Speaker 7: of them might have been very close to getting on
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Speaker 7: a plane to come to Australia and with moments to
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Speaker 7: spare before they boarded their flights, some visas were canceled.
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Speaker 7: I mean, this has been a shambalic process from start
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Speaker 7: to finish. It is not appropriate to give three thousand
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Speaker 7: tourist visas to people leaving a war zone controlled by
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Speaker 7: a terrorist organization in an average of twenty four hours,
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Speaker 7: and in some instances as quickly.
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Speaker 2: As one hour.
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Speaker 3: Well, as I said in the introduction, Anthony alban As,
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Speaker 3: he tried to say as little as possible on this today.
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Speaker 3: But I want to just show a clip of one
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Speaker 3: of his responses in Parliament.
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Speaker 5: In this case, we're rejected more than seven thousand visa applications.
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Speaker 5: Fewer than thirteen hundred people are here. No mind the
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Speaker 5: leader of the opposition that the rapt for border crossing
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Speaker 5: is controlled by the Israeli and Egyptian authorities. Let's speak
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Speaker 5: clear about what is happening here. Israel clothes the rapper
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Speaker 5: border crossing in May. They're not letting people.
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Speaker 3: Out now, James Patterson, He's right there, isn't he That
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Speaker 3: we're not getting people in from Gaza anymore because they
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Speaker 3: can't get out of Gaza. But doesn't that mean there's
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Speaker 3: an opportunity here during that pause for the government to
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Speaker 3: put in a decent third country processing scheme.
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Speaker 7: That's exactly right, Chris, As we've been saying this week,
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Speaker 7: this is the opportunity for the government to get this right,
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Speaker 7: to put in place an equivalent process to what the
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Speaker 7: former government had when people were leaving Afghanistan and when
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Speaker 7: people were fleeing Syria. We had people processed in third countries,
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Speaker 7: for example in northern Iraq when it was controlled by
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Speaker 7: coalition forces, in the UAE, in Lebanon, in Turkey, in
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Speaker 7: other places in the region where it was safe to
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Speaker 7: put Australian government officials on the ground to conduct those
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Speaker 7: in person, face to face interviews, to do biometric tests,
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Speaker 7: and it took us in some instances up to twelve
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Speaker 7: months to satisfy ourselves that there was no security risk.
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Speaker 7: Competted Utton, as Home Affairs Immigration Minister throughout this period,
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Speaker 7: was attacked for being too slow, but we took the
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Speaker 7: time to get it right and they've not done this
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Speaker 7: when it comes to Gaza, and that's an extraordinary thing
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Speaker 7: to do, given that we've got polling out of Gaza
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Speaker 7: which shows that up to seventy percent of Gaza residents
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Speaker 7: are supportive of Hamas and their atrocities on the seventh
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Speaker 7: of October. We don't want anyone with attitudes like that
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Speaker 7: coming into our country at a time of record anti
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Speaker 7: semitism and threatened social cohesion.
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Speaker 3: Now Australia has got a proud history in doing its
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Speaker 3: part internationally and in giving humanitarian.
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Speaker 2: Access to refugees.
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Speaker 3: But why in this case should Australia be leading the
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Speaker 3: world both in terms of numbers and speed of processing.
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Speaker 7: That's right, Chris. So, what we've discovered today is that
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Speaker 7: Australia has brought in more people more quickly than the
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Speaker 7: United States, the United Kingdom, New Zealand, Canada, France, Germany,
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Speaker 7: South Korea, Japan, Italy, so many of other are like
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Speaker 7: minded partners, and not just a little bit more, in
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Speaker 7: many cases, ten times as many people we've brought in
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Speaker 7: in that period of time. To think that Australia is
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Speaker 7: one of the countries bearing the heaviest load of GAZA
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Speaker 7: evacuees since the seventh of October. In the developed world,
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Speaker 7: there's only two countries that we could find that had
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Speaker 7: brought in more in that period, Greece and Belgium. Why
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Speaker 7: should Australia be leading the pack on that? The government
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Speaker 7: has provided no explanation as to why they've chosen to
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Speaker 7: do this, no explanation as to why this is in
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Speaker 7: our national interest, and no explanation as to why it should.
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Speaker 2: Be so rushed. Yeah, so worry, we need a lot
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Speaker 2: more from the government.
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Speaker 3: They're going to be more upfront about this, as well
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Speaker 3: as revising those security checks. Thanks for joining us, James,
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Senator James Patterson there, who's the shadow
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Speaker 3: Home Affairs Minister. Now, as I mentioned, the Democrat National
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Speaker 3: Convention kicked off in Chicago today. Our time President Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden was introduced by one of his children.
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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't Hunter, his daughter Ashley. She pushed for
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Speaker 2: the female vote.
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Speaker 1: And he wasn't just a girl dad.
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Speaker 10: I could see that he valued and trusted women.
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Speaker 3: But then the president himself struggled on the same topic.
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Speaker 9: Quote women not without electrical not allowed, not without electoral,
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Speaker 9: electoral or a political power.
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Speaker 3: Yes, there is a president on the way out. In fact,
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Speaker 3: he's about just about to go on two weeks leave,
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Speaker 3: we're told. Let me bring in Tom Switzer, who heads
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Speaker 3: up the Center for Independent Studies. Tom, thanks for joining
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Speaker 3: us again as a keen American politics watcher. Tell us
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Speaker 3: about how unusual this is Historically they have a sitting
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Speaker 3: president endorsing a new candidate rather than going for a
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Speaker 3: second term himself.
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Speaker 1: Well, it is very odd. I mean, usually presidents run
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Speaker 1: for reelection.
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Speaker 11: Chris and what's happening here is that the Democrats are
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Speaker 11: first rolling him in and then rolling him out. Usually
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Speaker 11: the first night of the convention is reserved for third
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Speaker 11: tier speakers, and the outgoing president usually speaks later in.
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Speaker 1: The week, not the first night.
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Speaker 11: But the Democrats were so worried about Biden's performance that
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Speaker 11: they wanted him out of the way as soon as possible.
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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happened to here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's going on two weeks leave to leave
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Speaker 3: the stage to Kamala Harris. It makes you think about
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Speaker 3: a leadership vacuum in the in the US at the moment.
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Speaker 2: That we've discussed often.
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Speaker 3: But I want to show you some of what Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden said today, and it's it's a key line about
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Speaker 3: this election and democracy being at stake.
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Speaker 9: Have a look rot to be just cast this year
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Speaker 9: will determine whether democracy and freedom will prevail.
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Speaker 2: It's that simple, it's that serious. And the power is.
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Speaker 9: Literally in your hands. History is in your hands, not
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Speaker 9: a proble, it's in your hands.
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Speaker 2: It's an extraordinary line.
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Speaker 3: It's extraordinarily divisive to say the whole of democracy hinges
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Speaker 3: on you voting for us.
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Speaker 2: Is it going to work for the Democrats.
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Speaker 1: I think so.
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Speaker 11: I think that Congress and the judiciary still exists. There
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Speaker 11: checks on the executive branch of the US government. The
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Speaker 11: impeachment power exists. I mean, look, ultimately, Chris elections the
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Speaker 11: real check on abusive presidents. So democracy will still remain
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Speaker 11: even if Donald Trump is president of the United States,
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Speaker 11: as we found out the first time he was president.
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Speaker 3: Now, most of this week in Chicago is going to
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Speaker 3: be about building up Kamala Harris, about lauding her, and
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Speaker 3: she spoke today, but I want to show you a
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Speaker 3: bit of an ad where the Republicans are lining her
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Speaker 3: up on her record, particularly in.
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Speaker 2: Allowing so many illegal immigrants into.
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Speaker 3: The country across the southern border, and particularly criminals.
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Speaker 2: Here's some of it, all savagely murdered by those Biden
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Speaker 2: and Harris led into our country unlawfully.
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Speaker 9: We have.
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Speaker 6: A secure border.
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Speaker 10: Kamala Harris was and is a complete failure at her job.
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Speaker 9: Now she's asking us for a promotion.
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Speaker 8: Who in their right mind would give it to her.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt she's sailing high in the polls
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Speaker 3: at the moment, a big honeymoon effect. Do you think
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Speaker 3: her record is going to hurt her.
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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, and she's part of the Biden administration, which
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Speaker 11: has governed to the left. It's probably been we've witnessed
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Speaker 11: the most expansive reach of government since Linden Johnson's Great Society.
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Speaker 1: In the nineteen sixties.
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Speaker 11: And you know, the main big policies that demonstrate the
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Speaker 11: point about moving to the left border security, but also
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Speaker 11: the massive increase in post COVID spending, which led to
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Speaker 11: the worst inflation crisis in the United States in more
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Speaker 11: than forty years.
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Speaker 1: So she'll have to own all of that. That.
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Speaker 11: Look, she's getting a bit of a bounce as a
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Speaker 11: result of her replacing Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: She's energized the base of the party.
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Speaker 11: There's clearly a lot of enthusiasm among a lot of
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Speaker 11: the fundraisers, and she's now leading in not just.
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Speaker 1: The nationwide polls but in the battleground poles.
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Speaker 11: But this is an exceedingly close race in a very
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Speaker 11: divided country. Trump's made his fair share of mistake in
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Speaker 11: the last month. But I think that it's way too
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Speaker 11: early to call an election. We still have eighty days
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Speaker 11: to go. And although she's got some momentum coming out
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Speaker 11: of this convention and leading up to this convention and
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Speaker 11: probably coming out of the convention.
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Speaker 1: This race still has a long way to play.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, a lot of people getting very excited
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Speaker 3: about at the moment, but she was always going to
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Speaker 3: get a lift as a matter of how long that lasts.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: One of the things she's been doing I think successfully, Well,
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Speaker 3: she hasn't been doing to any interviews, so there's no scrutiny,
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Speaker 3: really bigger pardon all press conferences? Yeah, no, no no
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Speaker 3: interviews or press conferences, so there's no scrutiny. But she
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Speaker 3: hasn't been talking so much about Donald Trump. She's been
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Speaker 3: talking about herself. But Hillary Clinton got to the stage
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Speaker 3: today in Chicago and Hillary was straight onto Donald Trump again.
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Speaker 10: Have a look the first person to run for president
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Speaker 10: with thirty four felony convictions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, the criminal Trump and lock him up,
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Speaker 3: Lock him up. There's a bit of personal revenge there
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Speaker 3: from Hillary Clinton. But do you think we're going to
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Speaker 3: see a lot of that in the campaign or are
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Speaker 3: they going to try and be very positive.
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Speaker 2: Around Kamala.
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Speaker 11: Well, I mean the catchword for the Kamala Harris campaign
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Speaker 11: is the future.
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Speaker 1: They want to move on from Biden and make this
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Speaker 1: a generational clash.
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Speaker 11: I mean, she is in her late fifties, whereas Donald
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Speaker 11: Trump's in his late seventies, is a twenty year age gap,
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Speaker 11: so that presumably works to the Democrats advantage. But ultimately
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Speaker 11: this election will be determined by policy and whether either
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Speaker 11: candidate can win over those crucial independence and undecided voters
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Speaker 11: in those seven battleground states that we all too often
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Speaker 11: hear about. And at this stage it's just too close
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Speaker 11: to call, and I think it'll be a very close.
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Speaker 1: Race during the course of the next eighty days.
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Speaker 11: But I'll ultimately come down to policy, and frankly, both side,
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Speaker 11: both the Republicans and Democrats, both support a huge increase
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Speaker 11: in the size and the scope of the government, which
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Speaker 11: doesn't aug well in my judgment for the future of
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Speaker 11: the United States.
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Speaker 1: Whoever wins in a few weeks a few months.
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Speaker 3: Time, Yeah, indeed, and we'll hear more promises rolled out
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Speaker 3: in the coming weeks, no doubt. Thanks for joining us, Tom,
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Tom Switzer there from the Center for
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Speaker 3: Independent Studies. Now we're going to get to a break.
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Speaker 3: On the other side, we'll be catching up with Christy
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Speaker 3: McSweeney and James McPherson. The AFL is under fire now
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Speaker 3: for its policy on trans players and there's been another
17:30
Speaker 3: short circuit in the electric vehicle role out. I'll explain
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Speaker 3: why in just a moment. Let's bringing our panel now.
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Speaker 3: Christie McSweeney, Managing Director of PR Council, joins us from Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: Good to see it, Christy, And on the desk here
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Speaker 3: with me is late debate co host James macpherson. Good
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Speaker 3: to have you on board for this truncated edition. Let's
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Speaker 3: quickly do federal politics. I'll start with you, Christy.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this.
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Speaker 3: Guard's a visa issue is hurting the alban Easy Labor
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Speaker 3: government and do you think voters want answers soon?
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Speaker 8: I think the Albanezi Labor government thinks it's an electoral
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Speaker 8: asset or advantage for them to have done what they've
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Speaker 8: done and to use the messaging of Ed Husick, for example,
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Speaker 8: and to make an advantage out of saying we wanted
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Speaker 8: to give tourist vices because they are the fastest able
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Speaker 8: to be processed and the fastest way to get people
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Speaker 8: into Australian reconnected with their families. They think that helps
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Speaker 8: them in their electorates with their base and helps them
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Speaker 8: contain voters who might be shifting to their left flag
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Speaker 8: to the Greens, which are the pro Palestinian party. Darton
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Speaker 8: has taken a gamble, banking that his hardline stance he's
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Speaker 8: trying to get to the bottom of asking the questions
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Speaker 8: around asion security vetting is helping him with certainly is
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Speaker 8: his base, but with also swinging voters and Chris sitting
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Speaker 8: here in Melbourne, I don't think there's too many Till
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Speaker 8: voters who are going to preference lacking national security over
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Speaker 8: a number of other issues, combined with cost of living.
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Speaker 8: I don't think our Boat's strategy is going to grab
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Speaker 8: those Till voters either, and I think the Tears are
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Speaker 8: on a losing street. Ripping into Peter Dutton on it, I.
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Speaker 3: Don't disagree with the political analysis, but I think it's
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Speaker 3: pretty simple James. It's about national security and you don't
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Speaker 3: play politics with it. And most people will think Peter
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Speaker 3: Dutton's spot.
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Speaker 12: On absolutely taking so many people so quickly from a
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Speaker 12: radicalized war zone makes absolutely no sense. And I think
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Speaker 12: most people are smart enough to realize Labor recognized they've
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Speaker 12: got a problem in Western Sydney and so whether real
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Speaker 12: or not. There's the perception they're making foreign policy based
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Speaker 12: on or immigration policy based on domestic politics.
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Speaker 3: Which is shocking and it might help them there, but
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Speaker 3: across the country people will be very, very worried about it,
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Speaker 3: and understandably so I want to duck back to Chicago
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Speaker 3: in this Democrat National Convention to show you something else
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Speaker 3: that Hillary Clinton said.
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Speaker 10: We can't get driven down crazy conspiracy rabbit holes.
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Speaker 6: We have to fight for the truth.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe my ears, James.
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Speaker 3: She's dissing conspiracy theories and she's fighting for the truth.
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Speaker 3: This is the woman who went with the whole Russia
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Speaker 3: collusion thing for years.
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Speaker 12: I was going to say, I've got three words for
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Speaker 12: Hillary Clinton, Russia, Russia, Russia.
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Speaker 2: He's about that nauseum.
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Speaker 12: So now for her to say our conspiracy theories. I mean,
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Speaker 12: but this is what the DNC have done all day.
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Speaker 12: It's just been gaslighting, gaslighting, gaslighting. They've repeated known falsehoods.
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden just.
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Speaker 12: Repeated them continually, things we know to be untrue. He
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Speaker 12: just repeated them all over again. No one with any
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Speaker 12: brains believes a word. The Democrats say.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to talk about conspiracy theories and truth.
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Speaker 3: I have a look at Hillary Clinton circa twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 13: Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president.
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Speaker 13: And it's pretty clear, it's pretty clear you won't it
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Speaker 13: met the Russians have engaged and cyber against the United
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Speaker 13: States of America, that you encouraged espionage against our people,
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Speaker 13: that you are willing to spout the putin line sign
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Speaker 13: up for his wish list.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hillary Clinton, there, Christie.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps she should correct the record on all of her
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Speaker 3: Russia collusion nonsense before she starts preaching about truth in politics.
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Speaker 8: Look, I've sort of had the DNC in the background
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Speaker 8: today and I've occasionally popped my head up to listen
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Speaker 8: to speeches when it sounds particularly outrageous. It's peaked my interest,
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Speaker 8: and I've turned away from the laptop and watched.
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Speaker 2: What they were saying.
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Speaker 8: From Clinton to IOC, I think was the most outrageous
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Speaker 8: speech that I heard to the Governor of New York,
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Speaker 8: Kathy Hushell, there is a lot of hype and certainly
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Speaker 8: pitching to the base, but you can't go and call
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Speaker 8: out Trump bang a liar and telling untruths on national stages.
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Speaker 8: If you're really going to miss late or misinterpret things yourself.
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Speaker 8: It's a bit of a kettle s Did you are.
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Speaker 2: Sure real West At the moment.
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Speaker 3: It is pop kettle for sure. Now just quickly another issue,
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Speaker 3: James Ampole are rapidly pulling back their electric charging plans
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Speaker 3: for around the country. Guess what, There's not enough electricity
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Speaker 3: and they're better off selling petrol.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Ethony Albenezi continually boasts that the government has an orderly
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Speaker 12: methodical approach to everything. That's not true on every policy.
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Speaker 12: It's just rank adventurism. And when you buy an EV
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Speaker 12: you're expressing trust and faith that things are going to
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Speaker 12: be laid out for you.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's madness.
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Speaker 12: No one believes this government. That's why the sales of
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Speaker 12: hybrid cars are increasing, because people are hedging their bets.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. It is a mess. And actually a good friend
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Speaker 2: of ours, gematon Uni, he's just sold her EV.
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Speaker 3: I think you might be able to read about that
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Speaker 3: in the weekend, Australian.
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping so. Anyway, we'll talk to her about that
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Speaker 2: next Monday. I want to get to sport Christy.
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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot on this program before about the
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Speaker 3: transgender issues in sport, the lack of fairness and safety
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Speaker 3: for women and girls in sport when they're up against
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Speaker 3: biological men. Soccer team's got a lot of attention in Sydney,
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Speaker 3: but now the AFL has said that at the lower
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Speaker 3: levels they're happy for people to play under the gender
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Speaker 3: that they choose.
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Speaker 2: There was a bit of history here with.
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Speaker 3: The Hannah Mountci, a very strong transgender woman biological man
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Speaker 3: who was allowed to play AFL. What are your thoughts
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Speaker 3: on the AFL not wanting to upset the Apple card here?
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Speaker 8: Oh? Look, I think how many flags can you wave
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Speaker 8: with just two hands, Chris if you're a major corporate
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Speaker 8: or sporting body in Australia these days. Look, inclusiveness is great,
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Speaker 8: but it shouldn't be to the exclusion of women to
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Speaker 8: be safe and to play their own sports. Nobody is
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Speaker 8: saying we don't want trans people to be included in
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Speaker 8: community sports.
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Speaker 2: Nobody wants that. But you're either.
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Speaker 8: Inclusiveness which includes women to play safely, or you're not
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Speaker 8: factoring that in in your inclusiveness position. Women and girls
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Speaker 8: need safe places to play sport, and I really I
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Speaker 8: can't blame the AFL too for not wanting to get
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Speaker 8: into community sport though. I don't think they have enough
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Speaker 8: PR people in Australia to deal with every community problem
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Speaker 8: right from oz kick all the way up to this
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Speaker 8: master's category that we're talking about here.
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Speaker 3: Just going to be just got to be fair to
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Speaker 3: girls and women, There's no doubt about it. Got to
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Speaker 3: be fair to transgender people too, but they can play
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Speaker 3: elsewhere they need to.
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Speaker 2: You've got to be fair to girls and women. Just quickly.
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Speaker 2: I want to squeeze this in before we go get
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Speaker 2: your reaction.
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Speaker 3: James a much loved police commissioner and widely respected in
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Speaker 3: South Australia. Grant Stevens was any cities driving in the
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Speaker 3: country in the southeast of that state?
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Speaker 2: Came up on radio today have a look. I understand
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Speaker 2: that you yourself may have attracted the interest of the constabulary.
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Speaker 1: Recently.
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Speaker 3: There is a rumor going around that I was stopped
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Speaker 3: for at an RBT in the southeast of South Australia,
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Speaker 3: and I'm pleased to report that toy Blue zero.
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Speaker 7: Did the police officer recognize you instantly?
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Speaker 2: I think it was quicker than that. It's all wholesome
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Speaker 2: in South Australia.
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Speaker 12: James it's a brave constable who does an RBT on
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Speaker 12: the Commissioner.
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Speaker 3: Good on him, especially given he was driving out of
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Speaker 3: the Kunawarra wine region. Well done, Commissioner, Well done, so
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Speaker 3: I mate, Pembo there on five double A.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 3: James Macpherson will be back at ten o'clock for the
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Speaker 3: late debate. Great to join. To catch up with you again, Christy,
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Speaker 3: we'll see you next time. Christy McSweeney there. We better
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Speaker 3: get off the air and hand it over now. It's
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Speaker 3: Peter Kredlin