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American Airlines Pilot Taken From Cockpit in Handcuffs on Murder Charges · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Do you ever have that
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Speaker 1: feeling of a little bit of nervousness anxiety when you're
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Speaker 1: about to take off or land on a long flight.
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Speaker 1: But then you hear the captain come over the loudspeaker,
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Speaker 1: and he she is always so calm, and they're talking
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Speaker 1: very slowly, explaining what's happening, and suddenly you feel like, hey,
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Speaker 1: everything's all right. Well, guess what, It's not all right?
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Speaker 1: How does a former Army major apache pilot, now pilot
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Speaker 1: for American Airlines get escorted off the plane he just
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Speaker 1: captained and charged with murder? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Calvin Phillips, Pam Phillips, and Ed Dance Roll all murdered
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Speaker 1: in Pembroke, Kentucky in two and fifteen. The case was
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Speaker 1: puzzling and ice coal. Then all of a sudden, three
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Speaker 1: years later, police arrest Martin escorting him off a full
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Speaker 1: American Airlines flight he was piloting. No DNA, no witnesses,
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Speaker 1: no comment from the prosecution. They eventually say the motive
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Speaker 1: was that one of the victims was going to testify
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Speaker 1: against Martin, but Martin believes the victim was going to
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Speaker 1: testify against his bigamist wife Joan. WHOA wait a minute, now,
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Speaker 1: I've got bigamy thrown in the mix. Bigamy, it's very,
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Speaker 1: very rarely prosecuted. Bigamy is when you're married to two
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Speaker 1: people or more at the same time. So in the
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Speaker 1: middle of this cesspool brewing on the stove, you got
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Speaker 1: biga me thrown in. You were just hearing our friends
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Speaker 1: at Fox seventeen Nashville. Can you imagine that flight full
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Speaker 1: of people two hundred about two hundred people seeing the
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Speaker 1: captain that just piloted their airline being taken off and handcuffs. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's not a good look with me right now? In
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Speaker 1: all star panel. Let me tell you who they are.
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy joining US. Veteran trial attorney, joining US out
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Speaker 1: of North Carolina and you can find her at NC
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Speaker 1: Domestic Law dot com. Renowned psychologists joining US out of Manhattan.
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Speaker 1: You know her well, Karen at karen start dot com
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Speaker 1: with a sea of Karen doctor, Michelle Dupree pathologists, former
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Speaker 1: medical examiner and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide Catch This.
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Speaker 1: She's also a former police detective to boot Jeff Cortes,
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Speaker 1: former FBI special agent. You can find him at Jeff
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Speaker 1: Cortesi dot com and Sabrina Hall TV reporter formerly with
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Speaker 1: Fox seventeen News. Now, you know what when I hear
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Speaker 1: Sabrina Hall that there are no witnesses and no DNA,
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Speaker 1: that gives me pause for concern when you are hauling
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Speaker 1: a former Army major apache pilot, very well respected, off
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Speaker 1: of an American Airlines flight full of about two hundred people. Guys,
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Speaker 1: before Sabrina Hall breaks it down for us, listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Three people are missing on this street of neighbors believe
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Speaker 1: they are dead. They are the husband and wife that
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Speaker 1: live in this house, a man that lives right next
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Speaker 1: door in a white house. And now an attorney tells
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Speaker 1: me the man who lives in that yellow house has
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Speaker 1: been questioned for these crimes. He's just happy to now
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Speaker 1: be out of a barracks where he had a washcloth,
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Speaker 1: a towel, any bars, soap. Since Friday night, Attorney Bill
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Speaker 1: Summers is talking about this man. Army Captain Christian kit Martin.
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Speaker 1: Summer says the Army's Criminal Investigation Division took him into
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Speaker 1: custody Friday as deputies searched his home and looked for
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Speaker 1: clues in a triple murder. The Christian County Sheriff Department
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Speaker 1: says they found two people burned up in a car
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Speaker 1: set on fire Thursday, and then another match shot to
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Speaker 1: death in this house. The people who live here are
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Speaker 1: husband and wife, Pam and cal Phillips. So let me
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Speaker 1: understand something, Sabrina Hall. And of course everybody knows when
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Speaker 1: you yank somebody like a former Army major and airline
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Speaker 1: an American Airlines pilot off of a plane, ridham as
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Speaker 1: rights and Cuffam, you better have some evidence or you
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Speaker 1: are looking at a major major thoughts arrest claim. Tell me,
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Speaker 1: Sabrina Hall, without DNA, without a witness, I'm not quite
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Speaker 1: sure how the state's going to make this case. So
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Speaker 1: let's just take it from the beginning. Let's start at
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Speaker 1: the get go. What happened? Okay, So when I got
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Speaker 1: there at the scene, there are two bodies in the
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Speaker 1: car right there. Hold on, I want to hear every detail.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear what it looked like, how you
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Speaker 1: found out about it. Is it urban? Is it rural?
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Speaker 1: Is it suburban? Is it a car on the side
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Speaker 1: of the interstate? Is at a rural road? Tell me everything.
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Speaker 1: It was in an empty field, and there was a
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Speaker 1: car burned up. They found two bodies, you know, incinerated
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Speaker 1: in the car. They were able to track that car
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Speaker 1: to Pam Phillips and cal Phillips house. Okay, hold on
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Speaker 1: right there, I'm choking from the fire hydrant with me,
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Speaker 1: Sabrina Hall, former TV reporter Fox seventeen. That's a lot
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Speaker 1: of evidence right there, because let me go through this
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special agent. Jeff right there
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Speaker 1: in a field, Now, if you see a car that's
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Speaker 1: upside down on the side of the interstate and it's
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Speaker 1: on fire, why there was a crash? Right if you
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Speaker 1: see it down a ravine on fire, you know there
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Speaker 1: was a crash. Most likely if there's a double car incident, crash,
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Speaker 1: but a car buy a single car blow up in
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Speaker 1: the middle of a field right there, I can tell
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Speaker 1: you that's a crime. That's not just an accident. That
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Speaker 1: is a crime. Yeah. Absolutely, that would be one of
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Speaker 1: those in your face moments that give an indication that
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Speaker 1: something in the farious stay has come. Yeah, because why
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Speaker 1: would why would people drive to the middle of a
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Speaker 1: field and then the car blow up. They wouldn't so
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Speaker 1: right at the get go, said Brandon Hall, you know
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Speaker 1: something is very very wrong. Okay, so how did you
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Speaker 1: find out about it? I don't know if it was
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Speaker 1: over the scanners, I'm not really sure. But I was
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Speaker 1: a reporter in Nashville and head down an hour outside
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Speaker 1: of Nashville to Pembrook, and then that license plate on
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Speaker 1: the car led to that couple that hadn't been seen. Okay,
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Speaker 1: hold on, wait right there, if you heard it over
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Speaker 1: a police scanner, you know, Karen start, New York psychologists, guys,
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Speaker 1: do you know anybody that has the police scanners in
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Speaker 1: their home? My grandmother, Lucy who Lucy, my daughter's named
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Speaker 1: after second husband, I'm much younger man, loved the weather
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Speaker 1: scanners and the police scanners. They were everywhere. You could
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Speaker 1: not go into my mama's house without hearing a police
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Speaker 1: or a weather report. And they all sounded very menacing.
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Speaker 1: They weren't, but they sounded that way. Karen start, what
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Speaker 1: is that? Now? No shade on you, Sabrina Hall. Okay,
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Speaker 1: now you're just doing your job. But what is it
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Speaker 1: with people that have on the police scanners like they're
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Speaker 1: going to rush out to the crime safe No, but
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Speaker 1: they're dis fascinated by crime and what's happening around them. Well,
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't have a leg to stand on there,
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Speaker 1: And that's exactly I mean, if you think about it, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: over the years, more and more people are getting interested
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Speaker 1: in the kind of stories that we're covering right now.
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Speaker 1: And when you and I first started, yes, people were interested,
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Speaker 1: but not like now. Now there's crime come and people
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Speaker 1: really want to know what's going on, especially if it's
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Speaker 1: in their areas. Karen Starr, We've discussed this before in person.
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Speaker 1: These are not stories like I would read a story
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Speaker 1: to the children at night. These are real people. And
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Speaker 1: there's a real car in the middle of a real
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Speaker 1: field burning with two bodies in it. So Sabrina Hall
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Speaker 1: with formerly with Fox seventeen. You hear it on a
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Speaker 1: place scanner, you recall, you think, you recall, You race
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Speaker 1: to the scene and you see what I just see
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Speaker 1: a burn up car and we don't know much else
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Speaker 1: except that, No, I don't recall it still burning, but
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Speaker 1: it was incinerated. I mean, it was very much burned.
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Speaker 1: And like I said, they were able to read the
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Speaker 1: license plate and track it back to that couple Kim
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Speaker 1: Call and Pam Phillips. When you saw the car, Subrina Hall,
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Speaker 1: how much of it was left? I mean it was
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Speaker 1: when you say incinerated, it was. I know, they could
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Speaker 1: barely make out that there were bodies in there from
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Speaker 1: what I recall crime stories with Nancy Grace. So we
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Speaker 1: are talking about an American Airlines veteran pilot being dragged
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Speaker 1: off the plane in front of three two or three
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Speaker 1: hundred people on the plane and handcuffs a former Army
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Speaker 1: major apache pilot. We don't have witnesses or DNA, so
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Speaker 1: how are they connecting him? You know, to doctor Michelle Dupree,
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Speaker 1: forensic pathologists, former medical examiner author, she literally wrote the
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Speaker 1: book Homicide Investigation Field Guy, doctor Dupree, why do people
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Speaker 1: think they can burn a crime scene and we're not
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Speaker 1: going to find out there's a body in there? I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's a that's an excellent question. I do not know,
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Speaker 1: but I'm so glad whose criminals are dumb because they
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Speaker 1: always leave some kind of evidence. It's up to us
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Speaker 1: to find it. And burning doesn't really destroy everything. Burning
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Speaker 1: can obviously destroy bodies and can destroy DNA, but there
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Speaker 1: will still be some evidence. In fact, I actually went
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Speaker 1: to a crime scene where the smoke from the burn
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Speaker 1: covered the rear view mirror and it left a perfect
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Speaker 1: fingerprint when we dusted it. Who to say that again?
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Speaker 1: So they tried to burn the bodies in a car,
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Speaker 1: and the smoke from the car was all over the
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Speaker 1: inside of the car. We actually dusted the rear view
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Speaker 1: mirror and we found we took the smoke off, you know,
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Speaker 1: with the fingerprint brush, and we found a fingerprint on
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Speaker 1: the rear view mirror where the perpetrator had changed the
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Speaker 1: rear view mirror. If nobody else tells you today, let
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Speaker 1: me be the first to tell you you're brilliant. I
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Speaker 1: hope you know that. I hope you don't go home
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Speaker 1: at night and there's a husband who goes, hey, honey,
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Speaker 1: was for dinner and doesn't realize how brilliant you are.
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Speaker 1: That's incredible, And you know it brings to mind a
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Speaker 1: case that you and I have analyzed it many times,
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, the case of Stephen Avery and Teresa Halback,
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Speaker 1: the victim a twenty something year old photographer to Teresa Hallback,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Avery, the pervy killer. And then there was I
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Speaker 1: guess it was Netflix special making a murderer that makes
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Speaker 1: you believe Stephen Avery didn't murder Teresa hallback a he
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Speaker 1: did and b remember all that was left Kathleen were
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Speaker 1: I think some of her teeth, but for sure the
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Speaker 1: studs off the back pockets of her Daisy Philinus blue jeans, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: remember that. And he stirred that firepit, Stephen Avery, all
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Speaker 1: night along. I think he threw a couple of tires
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Speaker 1: in there to make it keep burn, because he knew
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Speaker 1: that was the only way to truly burn a human
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Speaker 1: body is to burn it for a long period of
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Speaker 1: time at a high, high degree, a high burning degree.
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Speaker 1: So it is very hard. But as doctor Dupris just
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Speaker 1: told us, it's very hard to get rid of all
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Speaker 1: traces of a human body by burning, and he didn't.
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Speaker 1: You know, one interesting fun fact is yesterday I was
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Speaker 1: watching your friend doctor phil and that woman that he
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Speaker 1: was engaged to was on there, and subsequently she became
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Speaker 1: unengaged to Stephen Avery, and she talked about his personality
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Speaker 1: and how creepy he really was. And you know that
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Speaker 1: there's a creepy factor for this defendant, and other people
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Speaker 1: have testified that behind closed doors, Kit Martin was a monster.
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Speaker 1: I'm just absorbing everything is saying because you know, when
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Speaker 1: you're working at the case, Jeff Cortesi poor Sabrina Hall
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Speaker 1: formerly Fox seventeen is probably thinking, wait, I've only said
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Speaker 1: three sentences. But but Jeff Cortesi, I've given this an
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Speaker 1: example before. I was trying to prosecute a serial killer
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Speaker 1: and we could not get him. I finally found we
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Speaker 1: get a Jane Doe dead body. The location, the placement
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Speaker 1: of one of her earrings. After that was analyzed, led
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Speaker 1: me to reams of hypotheses on how the murder went down.
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Speaker 1: My point is that every single fact matters, the fact
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Speaker 1: that there was a one car accident in the middle
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Speaker 1: of a field, that it was incinerated, as Sabrina Hall
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Speaker 1: Fox seventeen says, that you could barely see the remains
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Speaker 1: of the bodies. Every fact matters, and you really have
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Speaker 1: to absorb each fact if you want to win that case. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you really do. You know, these investigations, it's always about
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Speaker 1: the you when you're looking at the totality of the circumstances,
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Speaker 1: but you're honestly looking at the minutia, the smallest detail,
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Speaker 1: because like you said, you just don't know what little
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Speaker 1: detail is going to be the difference between you know,
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Speaker 1: catching the bad guy and watching him or her walk
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Speaker 1: through all those little nuanced pieces of evidence, it really
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Speaker 1: can make the biggest difference. It's not always the sexiest
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Speaker 1: piece of evidence either. It could be something so unique
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Speaker 1: and something just so seemingly irrelevant, maybe even out of
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Speaker 1: the gates. Sometimes evidence that you find at the onset
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Speaker 1: later becomes more significant as the investigation goes on. Well,
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something, Jeff CORTEZI if it's pro
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Speaker 1: but if it proves something, it's sexy to me. So
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Speaker 1: let me get back to you, Sabrina Hall, I want
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Speaker 1: you to take a listen to our friend Scott Couch
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Speaker 1: Fox seventeen, Nashville and information tonight. In a triple murder
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Speaker 1: that we are following along the Tennessee Kentucky state line,
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Speaker 1: one of the victims in Pembroke, Kentucky is identified as
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Speaker 1: Calvin Lee Phillips. Deputies found Phillip's body inside this home.
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Speaker 1: He had been shot. The medical examiner he is still
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Speaker 1: working to identify the bodies if two other people found
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Speaker 1: in Phillips burned out car a few miles away from
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Speaker 1: the house. Okay, so we've got Calvin Lee Phillips shot
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Speaker 1: dead in his home, and then we've got two unidentified
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Speaker 1: bodies found in Phillips's burned out car a few miles away. Now,
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people would jump to the
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Speaker 1: conclusion that the day guy in the home murdered the
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Speaker 1: other two and then killed himself. Yeah, that was but
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Speaker 1: I to that conclusion. Go ahead, Sabrina. Yeah, that was
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Speaker 1: the initial thought. They thought it could be a murder suicide,
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Speaker 1: but then they realized, you know, the neighbors were telling
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Speaker 1: me right away that, you know, cal Phillips was in
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Speaker 1: a dispute with his neighbor right across the street, which
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Speaker 1: was Christian Martin, and the immediately police and investigators started,
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Speaker 1: you know, searching Kit Martin's house. Okay, hold on, let
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Speaker 1: me get this straight. Who do we figure out is
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Speaker 1: in the car? It was Calvin Phillips's wife, Pamela Phillips,
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Speaker 1: and their next door neighbor, Edward Danzero, And it's assumed
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Speaker 1: that ed was coming to the rescue of something going
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Speaker 1: on at the neighbor's house and was just caught up
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Speaker 1: in this and also murdered. Put in the car with
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Speaker 1: pam Phillips, driven to that field set on fire while
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Speaker 1: cal Phillips was dead in the cellar in his house,
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Speaker 1: dead in the cellar of his house. So he got
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Speaker 1: three dead bodies. Calvin Phillips dead in his own home. Yes,
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Speaker 1: his wife Pam dead in the car out in the field.
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Speaker 1: And then who we believe to be a good Samaritan
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Speaker 1: neighbor ed dancer. O. Ye, their neighbor. It's also in
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Speaker 1: the car. So I still don't get how that links up.
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Speaker 1: This very well respected American airlines pilot, a former Army
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Speaker 1: major apache pilot. You're telling me he lived across the street.
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me. Yeah, it was very
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Speaker 1: bizarre right across the street. It was a very big
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Speaker 1: you know that old saying familiarity breeds contempt. Here, Karen start, Oh,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like Desperate Housewives. I never told anybody, but
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Speaker 1: you know that was the once in a while, Okay,
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Speaker 1: every Sunday night. That was the only thing that I
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Speaker 1: would actually watch just because I don't know, it unwound
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Speaker 1: my mind from from everything I do during the week.
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Speaker 1: So that's what it sounds like, Karen Stark, Now, how
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Speaker 1: all the neighbors all hated each other? Familiarity breeds contempt?
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Speaker 1: Karen start, well, familiarity also breeds affairs Nancy and who
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Speaker 1: knows what was going Why is it always about sex
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Speaker 1: with you Karen starring, no matter what scenario, somehow you
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Speaker 1: belly it's about sex. Okay, I mean, I'm just a lawyer,
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Speaker 1: you're you're the psychologist, But how did you work sex
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Speaker 1: into this? Just makes you think, you know, what could
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Speaker 1: have been going on beside the fact there are other
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Speaker 1: things in the world besides sex. You think I'm pretty sure? Okay, Okay,
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Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace, A triple homicide, a triple homicide,
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Speaker 1: and then an American aeralined pilot getting carning off the
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Speaker 1: plane in handcuffs with no DNA and no eye witnesses. Now,
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Speaker 1: you were just hearing our friend Scott Couch Fox seventeen, Nashville.
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Speaker 1: But then we find out about new developments. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to Fox seventeen. Two developments tonight. In a triple
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Speaker 1: murder case in Pembrook, Kentucky, this evening, a fourth Campbell
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Speaker 1: Army captain his back home and the barracks after investigators
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Speaker 1: questioned him and searched his home. Major Christian Martin lives
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Speaker 1: right across the street from three people who disappeared the
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Speaker 1: same time, deputies found three bodies. Three bodies. That's right,
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Speaker 1: here's our friends at crime online dot Com. As police
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Speaker 1: look for a culprit, they find out Calvin Phillips is
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Speaker 1: scheduled to testify in a court martial involving Captain Christian Martin.
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Speaker 1: He's accused of sexual assault, physical assault, conduct, unbecoming an officer,
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Speaker 1: mishandling classified information, and communicating a threat. Phillips and Martin
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Speaker 1: are neighbors. Okay, this is where I need an expert,
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to go to Sabrina Hall, formerly with
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Speaker 1: Fox seventeen there in Nashville. What Sabrina? Yeah, so he was.
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Speaker 1: So Calvin Phillips was scheduled to testify against Christian Martin
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Speaker 1: two weeks. You know, Calvin Phillips dead in the cellar. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he's going to testify at a court martial. I guess
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Speaker 1: this Army major Christian Kit Martin, who lives across the street, right, Okay,
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Speaker 1: so he's set to testify, Okay, and so he allegedly
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Speaker 1: found well he did find who's he Calvin Phillips? Who
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Speaker 1: Calvin Phillips was a guy was helping, Yeah, I was
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Speaker 1: helping Kit Martin's ex wife move out of the house
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Speaker 1: and found classified information that Christian Martin was not supposed
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Speaker 1: to have. What do you mean by classified information? What
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Speaker 1: was he doing with classified information he's not supposed to have.
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Speaker 1: I don't like the sound of that one bit. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And also he was accused of abusing Joan Harmon, Christian
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Speaker 1: Martin's ex wife, you know, her child, So that's what
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Speaker 1: he was accused of. So the neighbor, the pilot is
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Speaker 1: facing court martial for possessing this top secret information and
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Speaker 1: the sex abuse of a child. Yes, okay, Can I
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Speaker 1: get back to the classified information? What classified information do
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Speaker 1: we think he had in his home he's not supposed
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Speaker 1: to have. It was never revealed. They were on discs
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Speaker 1: and they were marked secret, and Calvin Phillips stumbled upon
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Speaker 1: it while helping his ex wife move out of the house.
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Speaker 1: Christian Martin's ex wife move out of the house, and
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Speaker 1: he told Joe and Harmon, the ex wife, this really
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Speaker 1: needs to be reported to authorities. He should not be
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Speaker 1: having this information. Well, how did he know it was
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Speaker 1: on a disc marked secret which screams watched me read me?
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Speaker 1: So did he read the discs? I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: They never revealed what was on the disk. I have
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Speaker 1: no information on now that is secret. You know what,
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Speaker 1: let me go straight out to Jeff Cortesi, former FBI
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Speaker 1: special agent. That's not good. You know, the class fright
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Speaker 1: information is very comforted information, leaving her around the fact
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Speaker 1: that that was found, the fact that he had it.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is this is one of those little
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Speaker 1: pieces that started putting the puzzle together. So back to us,
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Speaker 1: Sabrina Hall, former Fox seventeen. So now we learn that
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Speaker 1: there is a horrible tempest to brewing between two neighbors.
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Speaker 1: You've got the victim found in the cellar, Calvin Phillips
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Speaker 1: set to testify against neighbor, the pilot, Kit Martin, in
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Speaker 1: a court martial where he would lose everything, his status,
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Speaker 1: his penchion, his everything, on charges of having secret information,
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Speaker 1: government information he's not supposed to have, and the sex
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Speaker 1: abuse of Calvin phillips child. No Joan Harman. Does she
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Speaker 1: live in the neighborhood too, well, she was, well, she
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Speaker 1: was somewhere in the area. But that's when the story
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Speaker 1: got really twisted because when I was reporting on it,
23:22
Speaker 1: I talked to his original attorney, Bill Summers, and he
23:25
Speaker 1: started talking about this twist about the ex wife being
23:30
Speaker 1: charged with bigamy, and right away was pointing fingers at
23:34
Speaker 1: the ex wife somehow being involved in this and having
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Speaker 1: sex with Calvin Phillips in a barn. And so right
23:41
Speaker 1: when I heard that, I said, this is a very
23:43
Speaker 1: very strange story. Okay, see I didn't see that coming.
23:45
Speaker 1: And now I've got to eat a dirt sandwich because
23:48
Speaker 1: apparently on New York psychologist Karen Stark was right. It
23:53
Speaker 1: is all about sex. You got all these neighbors all together,
23:58
Speaker 1: and this one's a bigamist. Iman is a big miss.
24:00
Speaker 1: That's rare. Actually usually it's a man that's a big
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Speaker 1: most and they're all having sex with each other and
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Speaker 1: one's in a barn. Okay, Karen Stark, you in, I lose,
24:10
Speaker 1: but I demand a rematch. Kathleen Murphy, have you heard
24:16
Speaker 1: anything so bizarre? And what about this tactic? I love
24:18
Speaker 1: this tactic. So you've got the pilot Kit Martin suspected
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Speaker 1: in three murders, the guy in the basement who is
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Speaker 1: Calvin Phillips, his wife Pam Phillips, and the good Samaritan
24:32
Speaker 1: neighbor who tried to intervene ed Dancero. They're in the
24:36
Speaker 1: car incinerated, and when you ask the defense attorney, what
24:41
Speaker 1: do you have to say, he starts pointing the finger.
24:44
Speaker 1: Is somebody completely different, going, well, she's a big mist
24:49
Speaker 1: smoking mirrors. Look they're not here. That's what that is classic.
24:53
Speaker 1: That's so good. That's our job. And you know, I
24:58
Speaker 1: am amazed that there's no story worry out there on
25:01
Speaker 1: in the investigation of the Joan Harmon Guerrera connection to
25:06
Speaker 1: this moment, because a lot of people are saying that
25:10
Speaker 1: it was something that she developed and she devised in
25:14
Speaker 1: an effort to frame Kit Martin. I find that very interesting.
25:19
Speaker 1: Oh I love it when we were reduced to what
25:22
Speaker 1: people say. You know, it reminds him bringing my twins
25:27
Speaker 1: home one day from school and my son goes, I
25:32
Speaker 1: heard miss Cartwright gives out candy at reading circle. I'm like, really,
25:38
Speaker 1: where did you hear that? And he goes on the playground. So,
25:42
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't give a flying fig about
25:45
Speaker 1: what people are saying. I care about what the evidence proves. Guys,
25:49
Speaker 1: take a listen to Erica Lathon. The Fox seventeen attorney
25:54
Speaker 1: Bill Summer says that court martial hearing that was scheduled
25:57
Speaker 1: for December first at Fort Campbell. Versus client has been postponed,
26:01
Speaker 1: but he anticipates they'll be in court Monday to discuss
26:04
Speaker 1: the evidence that was taken from his clients home, including
26:07
Speaker 1: a laptop computer. You know, here's the kicker to that,
26:10
Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy. The fact that a neighbor took the classified
26:16
Speaker 1: information disc not law enforcement. They're not going to be
26:22
Speaker 1: able to contest that in court. The Constitution protects us
26:26
Speaker 1: all from unreasonable searches by the state, and that does
26:32
Speaker 1: not protect you from an unreasonable search by a neighbor
26:36
Speaker 1: who finds classified information on your laptop and hands it
26:40
Speaker 1: over to authorities. I learned that in a case where
26:43
Speaker 1: I prosecuted a drug lord, that's provided to the neighbor.
26:47
Speaker 1: I prosecuted a drug lord and Atlanta High Rising where
26:51
Speaker 1: Elton John lived, really ritzy, and the dorman intercepted a
26:58
Speaker 1: giant FedEx to this guy and he the doorman tells
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Speaker 1: me that the corner was torn and he could see
27:07
Speaker 1: a block of cocaine in there, uncut block the size
27:11
Speaker 1: of a brick. Cause police, Yes, that's what it is.
27:15
Speaker 1: The biggest component of that trial was the cops didn't
27:19
Speaker 1: search the fed X. A civilian, a doorman opened it up,
27:23
Speaker 1: so there was no unreasonable search by the state. The
27:27
Speaker 1: cocaine came in and that's what happened here. Kathleen Murphy,
27:31
Speaker 1: you could say that, but Nancy, this was provided. Yes,
27:34
Speaker 1: it is true, but it was also in conjunction with
27:38
Speaker 1: Joan Harmon moving out of the residence with the help
27:43
Speaker 1: of its interesting town. It may be interesting, but it's
27:47
Speaker 1: still to me. It may be interesting, but it's still
27:52
Speaker 1: going to come into evidence. Yeah, you know what, let's
27:57
Speaker 1: talk about that. Take a listen to this. Martin's attorney says,
27:59
Speaker 1: and a ledged affair between Martin's ex wife and Phillips
28:03
Speaker 1: caused tension. Kit stopped having any kind of a any
28:08
Speaker 1: kind of a neighborly exchange with him. The fifty nine
28:12
Speaker 1: year old had also been set to testify in an
28:15
Speaker 1: upcoming sexual assault case filed against Martin, but he says
28:18
Speaker 1: the Army major didn't kill his neighbor. A man who
28:21
Speaker 1: was having a sexual intimate relationship with somebody that you
28:25
Speaker 1: thought you were married to and they end up in
28:29
Speaker 1: this horrific type of death. Any good cop would go there.
28:35
Speaker 1: So let me understand Sabrina Hall, the dead guy in
28:39
Speaker 1: the Basement, the seller Calvin Phillips was having an affair
28:43
Speaker 1: with Kit Martin's wife. Well, that is what Christian Martin
28:47
Speaker 1: told people, or you know, said, But I talked to
28:50
Speaker 1: Joan Harman and said that, and she said that she
28:53
Speaker 1: looked at kel Phillips like a father, and that was
28:55
Speaker 1: absolutely not true. So that is what Christian Martin is saying.
28:59
Speaker 1: But you denying that. Take a listen to Alex Apple
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Speaker 1: Fox seventeen. The state believes Kit Martin killed his neighbor
29:06
Speaker 1: col Phillips to keep him from testifying against Martin in
29:10
Speaker 1: military court. Martin's ex wife, Joan, had alleged that Kit
29:13
Speaker 1: was abusive to her and her children, but the felony
29:16
Speaker 1: allegations didn't stick. Had the facts proved, gil Joan would
29:20
Speaker 1: have received a six figure settlement from the military. What
29:24
Speaker 1: the defense says, though, is that their private investigator interviewed
29:28
Speaker 1: Phillips just before his death and convinced him to testify
29:32
Speaker 1: for Kit Martin, saying Martin's wife made up the allegations
29:36
Speaker 1: and an attempt to ruin his career. Bond has said
29:39
Speaker 1: that three million dollars cash at a bond hearing this week,
29:43
Speaker 1: Martin had a small army of support in the gallery.
29:46
Speaker 1: His daughter swears her dad is innocent. He's innocent, and
29:49
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the truth coming out Prime Stories
30:05
Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. These murderers take place just two weeks
30:11
Speaker 1: before Calvin Phillips is set to testify against Kit Martin
30:15
Speaker 1: in a court martial case where the thirty year military
30:20
Speaker 1: vet was accused of child rape an assault of his stepson.
30:25
Speaker 1: Investigators say the other victims were shot for being at
30:28
Speaker 1: the wrong place at the wrong time, you know, Sabrina Hall,
30:33
Speaker 1: formerly with Fox seventeen News, What if anything, is the
30:39
Speaker 1: evidence against the American Airlines pilot Kit Martin. There was
30:44
Speaker 1: such little evidence, you know. And I had called multiple times,
30:49
Speaker 1: you know, every week to the Kentucky State Police asking
30:51
Speaker 1: if they had any DNA evidence, and they never had anything.
30:55
Speaker 1: And then, you know, three years go by. I'm not
30:58
Speaker 1: a reporter anymore, but I see that Kit Mark has
31:00
Speaker 1: finally been picked up and arrested, and I thought, Wow,
31:03
Speaker 1: what did they get? What kind of evidence did they
31:05
Speaker 1: finally get? I have to know this, And there was
31:08
Speaker 1: no DNA evidence. There was no real evidence. The most
31:11
Speaker 1: well white amending evidence. What about the fact that the
31:15
Speaker 1: shell casing found at the scene where the victims were
31:19
Speaker 1: shot matched and was fired from a forty five caliber
31:24
Speaker 1: handgun found in a safe belonging to Kit Martin in
31:31
Speaker 1: his home across the street. So his gun was the
31:35
Speaker 1: gun that shot the victims. I call that evidence. It is,
31:41
Speaker 1: but they found I think it was a family member
31:44
Speaker 1: of Calvin Phillips that found that casing months after the crime,
31:48
Speaker 1: after you know, police had already swept the place, and
31:51
Speaker 1: so it was you know, they thought. They made an
31:54
Speaker 1: argument that it could have been placed there by the
31:56
Speaker 1: family that wanted to see Christian Martin convicted of the
32:00
Speaker 1: christ Understand, let's follow that through to its logical conclusion
32:05
Speaker 1: to suggest that that was planted. Wow, this reminds me
32:07
Speaker 1: of the O. J. Simpson planting evidence theory. So too,
32:16
Speaker 1: think that that evidence that gunshot casing was planted. You
32:24
Speaker 1: would have to believe that somehow the Phillips family member
32:29
Speaker 1: breaks into kitt Martin's home, gets his forty five caliber
32:35
Speaker 1: out of a safe that is locked, goes back over
32:40
Speaker 1: to the same as seller, shoots the gun, leaves the casing,
32:46
Speaker 1: then sneaks back into Martin's home. And puts the gun
32:49
Speaker 1: back in the safe. Is that your theory? Well, they were,
32:54
Speaker 1: there are things that they used to shoot guns in
32:56
Speaker 1: the backyard, and Christian Martin had shot guns in their
32:59
Speaker 1: back art at some point in the past, so there
33:01
Speaker 1: could have been casings there from before. Um. So that's
33:05
Speaker 1: what their argument was. And also I don't think they
33:07
Speaker 1: could one hundred percent prove it was from his gun. Well,
33:12
Speaker 1: um m hmmm, Jeff Cortez, a former special agent FBI,
33:17
Speaker 1: you can prove particular gun explain? Yeah, I mean when
33:22
Speaker 1: the excuse me, when the when the hammer in the
33:26
Speaker 1: in the gun goes forward and hits the the the
33:31
Speaker 1: shell and the bullet is expelled from the weapon. You know,
33:35
Speaker 1: there are elements within that gun that are unique to
33:38
Speaker 1: that gun. Um. And and so through the course of
33:41
Speaker 1: forensic analysis. Um. You know, the real experts are you know,
33:46
Speaker 1: should be able to look at a shell casing and
33:49
Speaker 1: make a determination. You know, I'm not going to presume
33:52
Speaker 1: to know for sure. You know, there are certainly cases
33:55
Speaker 1: where you know, whether whether somebody did something to the
34:00
Speaker 1: shell casing or otherwise would make it so that you know,
34:02
Speaker 1: maybe they couldn't make a determination. But you know, the
34:07
Speaker 1: science is there to support their ability to usually determine,
34:12
Speaker 1: you know, to doctor Michelle Dupree, a bullet or shell casing,
34:16
Speaker 1: it's like a fingerprint. As a bullet hurtles down the
34:21
Speaker 1: barrel of a gun, that gun has unique markings on
34:25
Speaker 1: the inside of the barrel from where the gun dried
34:30
Speaker 1: after it's created out of hot lead. Only that gun
34:36
Speaker 1: dries that way, and as a bullet hurtles at high
34:39
Speaker 1: speed down the down the barrel, that bullet is marked
34:46
Speaker 1: with what we call striation marks. What you do is
34:51
Speaker 1: you get the gun, the suspected murder weapon, shoot a bullet,
34:56
Speaker 1: shoot it into a mattress or a tub of water,
34:58
Speaker 1: that's what we used to do, and you get the
35:00
Speaker 1: known bullet that you just shot, and you compare it
35:03
Speaker 1: to the bullet taken out of the body or at
35:05
Speaker 1: the crime scene. Under a microscope, you can see the
35:09
Speaker 1: same exact striation or lines on the bullet and it
35:13
Speaker 1: looks like a fingerprint. That's how you do it. It's
35:17
Speaker 1: not hard, yes, Nancy, that is true. However, sometimes the
35:21
Speaker 1: bullet is so damaged that you cannot look at those. However,
35:25
Speaker 1: if we find a casing that the bullet was in,
35:28
Speaker 1: that came from that gun. The casing also has individual
35:32
Speaker 1: marks from the specific gun, and lately we have found
35:36
Speaker 1: well in the last few years that even that casing
35:39
Speaker 1: can still have a fingerprint of the person who touched
35:41
Speaker 1: that bullet before I actually loaded it. Yeah, and is
35:47
Speaker 1: it true, Sibrena Hall, that Kit Martin the American Airline
35:51
Speaker 1: pilots and dog tags were found in the victim's home
35:55
Speaker 1: And that was another suspicious thing because it seemed like
35:57
Speaker 1: it could have been planted there the with it was
36:00
Speaker 1: just sat on a shelf and that's you know, the
36:05
Speaker 1: family that wanted to see someone in jail. I mean,
36:07
Speaker 1: that was the defense's argument. Interesting. So prosecutors also a
36:12
Speaker 1: point to the fact that Kit Martin the American Airline
36:15
Speaker 1: pilot cell phone tower records indicate he was inactive at
36:20
Speaker 1: three different points on November eighteen, the day that all
36:24
Speaker 1: of this happened. What, if anything, does that prove, Sabrina Hall, Well,
36:29
Speaker 1: just so he had the opportunity to commit the crime.
36:32
Speaker 1: You know. Another piece of evidence that they had was
36:34
Speaker 1: that he set his alarm in the middle of the
36:37
Speaker 1: night for one ten am, and that's when they believed
36:41
Speaker 1: that he took those bodies. To the field and burned
36:44
Speaker 1: them at one ten in the morning. His argument was
36:46
Speaker 1: that he was checking on a kerostene heater at one
36:50
Speaker 1: ten in the morning. Well, the murders allegedly occur, because
36:55
Speaker 1: I know that the murders were committed and the bodies
36:58
Speaker 1: moved and earned at the exact times Kit Martin turned
37:03
Speaker 1: his cell phone off. Yes, and they had they had
37:05
Speaker 1: security video of him, you know, doing mundane things throughout
37:10
Speaker 1: the day, and he was not seen outside of the
37:12
Speaker 1: house has midnight. You know. However, the day that week
37:17
Speaker 1: when these murders happened, his attorney at the time before
37:20
Speaker 1: he knew what the surveillance video showed, and he told
37:23
Speaker 1: me that they would see kid Martin outside of the
37:27
Speaker 1: house at two am because the dogs were barking very
37:29
Speaker 1: loudly and so we and that never came out. So
37:33
Speaker 1: I feel like the attorney was trying to cover some
37:35
Speaker 1: bases there that that next day of that next week,
37:38
Speaker 1: telling me that he would be seen on surveillance video
37:40
Speaker 1: at two in the morning because of dogs barking, but
37:42
Speaker 1: that that video was never shown in court. There was
37:44
Speaker 1: no video of him at two in the morning. We
37:46
Speaker 1: also know that Kit Martin the airline pilot had an
37:52
Speaker 1: alibi that he was at home at the time of
37:55
Speaker 1: the killings, but the cell phone records show that was
37:59
Speaker 1: not What do you make of that, Sabrina Hall. You know,
38:04
Speaker 1: I have no idea his wife or his fiance was
38:07
Speaker 1: apparently sleeping in bed with him that night when he
38:10
Speaker 1: allegedly set his alarm at one ten in the morning
38:12
Speaker 1: to do something suspicious. You know, I don't know if
38:16
Speaker 1: she heard something, if she's you know, lying that she
38:19
Speaker 1: didn't hear something. Take a listen to our cut ten.
38:23
Speaker 1: This is Alex Apple Fox seventeen. Four years later, the
38:28
Speaker 1: entire murder case hinges on whose ally cal Phillips would
38:32
Speaker 1: have been in that old military court martial. The defenses
38:35
Speaker 1: private investigator wrote in an email to police he was
38:39
Speaker 1: convinced cal Phillips was murdered to prevent his testimony on
38:43
Speaker 1: behalf of the defense. What's interesting is the defenses. The
38:47
Speaker 1: defenses private investigator wrote to police said he was convinced
38:54
Speaker 1: cal Phillips was murdered to prevent his testimony on behalf
38:59
Speaker 1: of the defense. In the end, take a listen to
39:04
Speaker 1: our friends at Huck seventeen. Plock seventeen is crime alert
39:06
Speaker 1: Now a Kentucky jury recommending a former American Airlines pilot
39:10
Speaker 1: get four life sentences. A judge will have the final
39:13
Speaker 1: say now. Late last night, they convicted Kit Martin in
39:17
Speaker 1: a twenty fifteen triple murder in Christian County. Martin killed
39:22
Speaker 1: his neighbors ahead of a court martial where one of
39:24
Speaker 1: the victims had been said to testify. Investigators say cell
39:28
Speaker 1: phone data puts him at the crime scene. Kathleen Murphy
39:33
Speaker 1: a recommendation of four life sentences. What's going to happen next?
39:37
Speaker 1: I believe the sentencing will be in September. Of the
39:40
Speaker 1: sheer mempy, we wait as justice un falls. Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: crime story, signing off goodbye friend,