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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right and with me now come into the Live
- 0:03Speaker 1: from Washington, DC on one leg up with Alex Garrett
- 0:06Speaker 1: is actually someone connected to us through Lucas A. Ferrara. Yes,
- 0:10Speaker 1: the man who does shut it off with Martin Lucas.
- 0:14Speaker 1: I am once again grabbing one of his guests who
- 0:17Speaker 1: would kind of during my podcast, Solomon Schmidt. Solomon, you
- 0:21Speaker 1: are not only the author of Alan Derschwhich's biography, but
- 0:25Speaker 1: you are a historian since the age of twelve, and
- 0:28Speaker 1: when we talk on the radio on ninety seventy, you
- 0:30Speaker 1: and I vibe. So I'm like, let's take this to
- 0:32Speaker 1: the podcast.
- 0:33Speaker 2: You know, absolutely I appreciate you having me on.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Alex, Well, I'm having you on for a big reason
- 0:39Speaker 1: because something historical happened this week, aka the inauguration, And
- 0:44Speaker 1: I understand you were in DC for this inauguration, So
- 0:48Speaker 1: tell us your experience and what the energy was like
- 0:51Speaker 1: as President Trump was sworn in this week.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. So it was cold. My summary of
- 1:01Speaker 2: the last few days. I was not one of the
- 1:03Speaker 2: lucky few to make it into the rotunda like many
- 1:09Speaker 2: fellow Americans people around the world saw it on video.
- 1:15Speaker 2: But my experience over the weekend was. I spent quite
- 1:21Speaker 2: a bit of time walking the streets of DC naively
- 1:25Speaker 2: thinking I was going to get into the Capital One
- 1:28Speaker 2: Arena event. I showed up at three pm on Sunday
- 1:33Speaker 2: and the event was I think about to start at
- 1:36Speaker 2: that time. I was there with my father and we
- 1:38Speaker 2: figured we would try to try to get in at
- 1:42Speaker 2: the last minute if we could. Well. We took the
- 1:45Speaker 2: Metro the subway from our hotel to the Capitol One
- 1:48Speaker 2: Arena and we emerge from underground to find the streets
- 1:53Speaker 2: lined with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people, and
- 1:58Speaker 2: it's rating and people are in pond shows, and it's
- 2:01Speaker 2: grace skis and it's cold, and the security guards nearby
- 2:08Speaker 2: tell us. We say, hey, we're here for the Capitol
- 2:11Speaker 2: One Arena events, and they say, well, you're looking at
- 2:14Speaker 2: the line, and we were half a mile from the
- 2:17Speaker 2: arena still we said, oh, okay, so where does the
- 2:21Speaker 2: line start and he said, oh, it's way, way, way
- 2:25Speaker 2: way back. And then we met another gentleman who told
- 2:29Speaker 2: us that he had tried to go to the back
- 2:31Speaker 2: of the line to get in, and he went block
- 2:34Speaker 2: after block after block, and after following the line down
- 2:38Speaker 2: multiple streets, he finally just gave it up after trying
- 2:42Speaker 2: to get an uber to the event. My father and
- 2:46Speaker 2: I had to give up an uber and catch a
- 2:49Speaker 2: train to this event that was being held by Newsfacs,
- 2:52Speaker 2: which is a channel some folks might be familiar with it.
- 2:57Speaker 2: You can usually find it right near Fox News on
- 2:59Speaker 2: your TV channel. It's got some really impressive hosts and
- 3:03Speaker 2: owned by a guy named Chris Ruddy, who I recently
- 3:06Speaker 2: became introduced to through Alan Dershowitz and the event. The
- 3:11Speaker 2: event was attended by a lot of a listers. I
- 3:16Speaker 2: met Ted Cruz ed Henry, saw Doctor Oz who else,
- 3:25Speaker 2: number of different authors, Eric Matexas who is a prominent
- 3:29Speaker 2: Christian and conservative author, Greta van Susteren, who was a
- 3:35Speaker 2: fantastic event was held in the Andrew Mellon Auditorium right
- 3:40Speaker 2: down Constitution Avenue, a little ways from the Washington Monument,
- 3:44Speaker 2: which you could see as you entered the auditorium. And
- 3:48Speaker 2: you talk about the energy, well, there's a heck of
- 3:50Speaker 2: a lot of energy at that event. And the overwhelming
- 3:55Speaker 2: feeling I sensed from the folks walking around the streets
- 3:58Speaker 2: of DC was frus Oh my goodness. People had horror
- 4:02Speaker 2: stories of waiting since.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Seven am in the morning on Sunday, and they were
- 4:07Speaker 1: leaving their Louis Vatam bags behind just to get into
- 4:10Speaker 1: these events.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Actually, yes, yes, it was crazy people, people lining up
- 4:15Speaker 2: ten twelve hours before the event was going to start
- 4:19Speaker 2: and not being able to get in. But people were
- 4:22Speaker 2: still I mean people were dressed from the socks up
- 4:27Speaker 2: in Trump gear. Hundreds and hundreds of different Trump vendors
- 4:33Speaker 2: and supporters just packing into all the restaurants and I
- 4:39Speaker 2: mean people. I was mentioned this to a journalist friend
- 4:45Speaker 2: of mine yesterday. Trump is like a religious figure. That
- 4:52Speaker 2: is how it struck me over this weekend. People talk
- 4:55Speaker 2: about him like they know him, like he's watching over them.
- 4:59Speaker 2: It's InCred edible, that level of connection that his supporters
- 5:07Speaker 2: and admirers feel to him, which I'm sure you've seen
- 5:11Speaker 2: and a lot of folks have picked up on it.
- 5:14Speaker 1: You know, Solomon, I've to say you are known as
- 5:17Speaker 1: what the youngest historian child story in America at the
- 5:21Speaker 1: age of started at the age of twelve, So you're a
- 5:24Speaker 1: history guy. I'm a history guy. I'm just excited not
- 5:28Speaker 1: only for the presidency, but the fact that you know,
- 5:32Speaker 1: now two hundred and forty nine year history has of
- 5:34Speaker 1: this year, we have forty seven presidents leading the way,
- 5:38Speaker 1: and I know a few of them have done it
- 5:40Speaker 1: terms apart, like Grover Cleveland, like Donald Trump. Doesn't it
- 5:45Speaker 1: get incopetence that we can keep going as a nation
- 5:47Speaker 1: throughout one undred birthday and beyond.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Absolutely, And something that struck me as I was watching
- 5:57Speaker 2: the proceedings. I don't know about you or your viewers,
- 6:00Speaker 2: but something that struck me was of course seeing President
- 6:03Speaker 2: Biden and Kamala Harris sitting right behind President Trump, but
- 6:07Speaker 2: also Hillary Clinton. I mean, here you had Kamala Harris
- 6:11Speaker 2: and Hillary Clinton, who were defeated by Donald Trump, watching
- 6:16Speaker 2: their political opponent assume power inside the Capitol rotunda with
- 6:23Speaker 2: George Washington looking down on them from the portraits behind
- 6:28Speaker 2: President Trump set during the Revolutionary War, and that time
- 6:33Speaker 2: with the statues of past leaders of our nation surrounding them,
- 6:38Speaker 2: Generalizing Hower, Ronald Reagan, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant.
- 6:43Speaker 3: What an extraordinary display of the system.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Our founding fathers gave to us. And not to sound
- 6:52Speaker 2: politically correct, but I mean, I know the fathers are
- 6:55Speaker 2: the ones who drew up the document, but I always
- 6:57Speaker 2: think it's important to say founding fathers and mothers, because
- 7:01Speaker 2: once you read about people like Abigail Adams. She may
- 7:04Speaker 2: not have written the Declaration of Independence, but boy, in
- 7:08Speaker 2: a way she was as instrumental. Abigail Adams was just
- 7:13Speaker 2: quite simply one of the most extraordinary women in our
- 7:16Speaker 2: country's history. What she endured from from terrible blizzards to
- 7:22Speaker 2: British bombardments on areas of land near her home, to
- 7:28Speaker 2: wondering if John Adams, her husband, was going to be
- 7:31Speaker 2: hanged or captured or die on his sea voyages across
- 7:36Speaker 2: the Atlantic when he became the ambassador to Frame by
- 7:41Speaker 2: the way, Britain.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Dolly Madison also when the war on fire, she is
- 7:45Speaker 1: the one that.
- 7:46Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So yeah, so what what? Yes,
- 7:51Speaker 2: it does give me confidence that we will continue on
- 7:55Speaker 2: and it was such a privilege to see system at work.
- 8:04Speaker 1: You make an extraordinary point that the women of that
- 8:07Speaker 1: time right up and until now, I mean the supporting
- 8:12Speaker 1: wives of you know, Obama and Clinton and you know
- 8:16Speaker 1: all the first ladies if you will, And then of
- 8:19Speaker 1: course it continues today with Milani. So there is that tradition.
- 8:23Speaker 1: So my question then is as a historian, do you
- 8:26Speaker 1: project a female present ever being elected one day?
- 8:29Speaker 4: Do you see that happening? Alex usually don't predict history.
- 8:36Speaker 4: I usually tell what happened. Prediction is dangerous, said C. S.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Lewis. I appreciate you asking.
- 8:43Speaker 5: And my my thought would be yes, I could certainly
- 8:49Speaker 5: see it happening.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I'm I'm surprised in some ways that it hasn't happened already,
- 8:57Speaker 2: because you notice a lot of different folks who may
- 9:03Speaker 2: not be radical feminists, but who are certainly very supportive
- 9:08Speaker 2: of women's rights. And certainly you had seventy two million
- 9:14Speaker 2: people who voted for Kamala Harris this last time around.
- 9:20Speaker 2: What those three million people who made the difference thought
- 9:25Speaker 2: that would be? That would be an interesting question to
- 9:28Speaker 2: get to the bottom of. We we did notice from
- 9:31Speaker 2: the speech. I noticed in the speech that right out of.
- 9:34Speaker 6: The gate, President Trump discussed the issues of illegal immigration
- 9:40Speaker 6: at the crowd when arser when he talked about the
- 9:45Speaker 6: measures he was going to put in place to stop.
- 9:47Speaker 1: It, well, that was that was It was very interesting.
- 9:51Speaker 1: He was up there actually obliterating everything about the Biden
- 9:54Speaker 1: ministration about Biden, and Harris was sitting there. We also
- 9:59Speaker 1: talk about statement statesmanship. Could he have said something differently,
- 10:04Speaker 1: could he have done a little differently, or did he
- 10:05Speaker 1: handle it the way you would expect him to handle it?
- 10:10Speaker 2: You know, Monday morning quarterbacking is always easy because, by
- 10:15Speaker 2: the way, I found it one of the most inspiring
- 10:17Speaker 2: speeches of an inaugural address, and.
- 10:20Speaker 1: He did one in sixteen, but yesterday, or at seventeen,
- 10:22Speaker 1: but yesterday, it was really inspirational. The way you talking
- 10:27Speaker 1: about the optimism and the ambition. I felt that, you know.
- 10:29Speaker 3: I felt that right right well, some of some of
- 10:33Speaker 3: the passages he said where he watched eloquent about the
- 10:39Speaker 3: people who built America and the fact that America is
- 10:42Speaker 3: the great.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Industrial power of the world, and the great military power
- 10:47Speaker 2: of the world, and the great technological power of the world.
- 10:50Speaker 2: That was very inspiring. What he said about or what
- 10:55Speaker 2: he alluded to regarding President Biden's had been reminded me.
- 11:02Speaker 2: And people who like Donald Trump aren't gonna like this comparison,
- 11:06Speaker 2: but it reminded me right away of a speech given
- 11:10Speaker 2: and I believe two thousand.
- 11:11Speaker 7: And seven an inaugural address from Elliot Spitzer, who was
- 11:16Speaker 7: the governor of New York for about a year and
- 11:18Speaker 7: a half and in that speech, Elliott Spitzer, with George
- 11:24Speaker 7: Pataki and other Republicans sitting right near him, said something
- 11:29Speaker 7: to the effect of for too long Alby has been
- 11:33Speaker 7: asleep at the wheel.
- 11:35Speaker 2: And the people he was saying had been asleep at
- 11:38Speaker 2: the wheel were sitting right next to him, and people
- 11:40Speaker 2: were going, Wow, this is this is tough, this is embarrassing.
- 11:45Speaker 2: So that's That's not to insult President Trump. It's just
- 11:50Speaker 2: the comparison that came to my mind. We know that
- 11:52Speaker 2: some people, as they have since twenty fifteen, some people
- 11:55Speaker 2: have a real problem with the with the the world
- 12:00Speaker 2: or it's President Trump uses. It's clearly what his supporters
- 12:05Speaker 2: wanted to hear and his I'm sure his supporters would
- 12:08Speaker 2: say that President Biden and Kamala Harris had it coming
- 12:11Speaker 2: to them, especially when it relates to the law fare,
- 12:15Speaker 2: which President Trump alluded to in the inaugural speech, which.
- 12:19Speaker 8: He said he would end, well, let me tell you,
- 12:23Speaker 8: I think you're right that you know, he took a
- 12:25Speaker 8: lot of this personally, what the Biden said, the Biden
- 12:28Speaker 8: vision did to him personally.
- 12:29Speaker 1: There's no right. Here's the point is that no matter
- 12:33Speaker 1: all the disunity that we find in election cycles and
- 12:36Speaker 1: even during presidencies. Here we are another president sworn in
- 12:41Speaker 1: the country runs along and so are we Just is
- 12:45Speaker 1: this our fabric to just move along together, even if
- 12:48Speaker 1: we're not always unified. I feel like that's the bottom
- 12:50Speaker 1: line here.
- 12:51Speaker 2: I hear hopes so. And I'd like the word that
- 12:55Speaker 2: the President used, which was describing us as a family,
- 12:59Speaker 2: and I was really touched by that. And people who
- 13:03Speaker 2: who don't like the President might just roll their eyes
- 13:07Speaker 2: at that, But I do see America that way. I'm
- 13:12Speaker 2: sure you see America that way. I'm sure a whole
- 13:14Speaker 2: lot of people see America that way and all and
- 13:17Speaker 2: always have, and there are always going to be folks
- 13:21Speaker 2: who who try to divide us. But I'm an optimist
- 13:27Speaker 2: in some ways, Like Ronald Reagan, I believe that the
- 13:30Speaker 2: American people are by and large good people who care
- 13:35Speaker 2: about their families, about God, about their country. And I've
- 13:40Speaker 2: had the privilege, Alex of traveling to most of the
- 13:45Speaker 2: states over the last number of years, and I've met
- 13:49Speaker 2: thousands of people from all walks of life, and that's
- 13:52Speaker 2: that's just been my overall impression.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Now ask you, you're twenty one, does that mean you
- 13:59Speaker 1: just cast your first presidential election vote.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting you bring that up, and this could
- 14:06Speaker 2: turn into a long discussion. I decided not to vote
- 14:11Speaker 2: this year, and I gave that careful consideration, and it's
- 14:16Speaker 2: something I've been working through since I was fifteen years old.
- 14:20Speaker 2: I got a lot of flak for it from some people,
- 14:23Speaker 2: especially folks who think it's disrespectful to veterans or people
- 14:28Speaker 2: from the revolutionary wartime so gave their life so that
- 14:31Speaker 2: I could have the right to vote. I of course
- 14:33Speaker 2: appreciate that very much, and I have dedicated books I've
- 14:37Speaker 2: written to veterans, and have veterans in my family and
- 14:41Speaker 2: among my friends. The main issue for me, Alex was
- 14:46Speaker 2: I write about current political events, and I claim to
- 14:50Speaker 2: be neutral and objective, and I just simply it may
- 14:55Speaker 2: work for other people, but I simply just didn't feel
- 15:00Speaker 2: I claiming to be neutral and objective as a commentator
- 15:05Speaker 2: and author on current political events and go out and
- 15:08Speaker 2: cast my vote for a political candidate or party. And
- 15:14Speaker 2: I was wrestling with this issue in my mind for
- 15:17Speaker 2: a number of months, and then I learned about folks
- 15:22Speaker 2: who I respect who made the same decision. One of
- 15:26Speaker 2: them is a guy named John Solomon, who's a journalist
- 15:30Speaker 2: with a TV company called Real America's Voice.
- 15:33Speaker 1: I did not know, but that is so John Solomon,
- 15:36Speaker 1: because he's a guy who's down the middle in the
- 15:38Speaker 1: sense of all his reporting, So this makes sense to
- 15:40Speaker 1: me that he.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Would vote right. And John Solomon's point, which was interesting
- 15:45Speaker 2: to me, he said, if I were the editor of
- 15:48Speaker 2: a scientific journal, I would vote. But my line of
- 15:52Speaker 2: work is in current political events and I claim to
- 15:55Speaker 2: be neutral. So it was a tough decision on some level.
- 16:02Speaker 2: But once I had made up my mind about it,
- 16:04Speaker 2: I thought it was the right thing to do. And
- 16:06Speaker 2: I know different folks in my life have thoughts against
- 16:11Speaker 2: it or for it, and the ones that make the
- 16:15Speaker 2: most sense to me are one, it's not showing appreciation
- 16:19Speaker 2: for the right to vote, and two, it's just a
- 16:22Speaker 2: cowardly way to get out of sharing your presuppositions, because
- 16:26Speaker 2: we all have presuppositions. But no, it really is for
- 16:29Speaker 2: me about doing my duty as a historian. We need
- 16:32Speaker 2: historians that we can trust. We need historians that we
- 16:36Speaker 2: can believe are doing the best to tell us the
- 16:39Speaker 2: truth as far as they see it. We need historians
- 16:42Speaker 2: like and I'm not comparing myself to him. But we
- 16:45Speaker 2: need historians like David McCullough, where for most of his
- 16:49Speaker 2: life you have no idea what his politics are, and
- 16:53Speaker 2: so I'm willing to take criticism for that. Again, I
- 17:02Speaker 2: believe they understand that folks might have differing opinions, but
- 17:05Speaker 2: that's just where I'm at.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's it's amazing. It's almost like our
- 17:10Speaker 1: media outlets should be historic. If they're going to tell
- 17:13Speaker 1: the history of the country, they shouldn't vote either, because hey,
- 17:16Speaker 1: they're the media. They're reporting on this. So I like
- 17:19Speaker 1: what you're saying, because we find the media dipping their
- 17:22Speaker 1: toes into politics a lot more than historians are. And
- 17:25Speaker 1: that's not always right there, because there's to be telling
- 17:28Speaker 1: us what it is, not in this planted way.
- 17:30Speaker 2: I mean correct.
- 17:31Speaker 1: The Times yesterday or Monday said, well, guess what, this
- 17:36Speaker 1: was a very dark speech. Are you right to say
- 17:39Speaker 1: that it's the right? Is an old gray lady right
- 17:41Speaker 1: to opine because they're supposed to just report the facts,
- 17:44Speaker 1: not an opinion piece on it.
- 17:46Speaker 2: That's just my thoughts. But well, the way I look
- 17:50Speaker 2: at it when it comes to historians is historians should
- 17:54Speaker 2: be journalists of the past. And I don't mean journalists
- 17:57Speaker 2: who are writing opinion pieces like you said, people who
- 18:00Speaker 2: are investigating the most credible sources of information and then
- 18:06Speaker 2: compiling that information into a format that's consumable and interesting
- 18:12Speaker 2: and entertaining for people. And by interesting and entertaining, I
- 18:15Speaker 2: don't mean that you embellish things. But that's the aim
- 18:19Speaker 2: of a story. Of a storyteller is to write an
- 18:24Speaker 2: exciting story, whether you do with fiction or history. Of course,
- 18:30Speaker 2: with history, what makes it much harder than fiction is
- 18:33Speaker 2: I spend weeks, months, years digging up facts. I'm working
- 18:40Speaker 2: on a biography of JK. Rowling right now, and just
- 18:43Speaker 2: to find little details like her hair color in the
- 18:46Speaker 2: nineteen nineties, or the street that she walked on between
- 18:51Speaker 2: her home and the cafe where she wrote Harry Potter.
- 18:55Speaker 2: It goes without saying. You can't make these.
- 18:56Speaker 9: Things up out of thin air.
- 18:57Speaker 2: And sometimes you make it a source that you realize
- 19:00Speaker 2: a week later was it accurate? Then you have to
- 19:02Speaker 2: go back and replace it with a different source and
- 19:06Speaker 2: find a second corroborating source.
- 19:09Speaker 10: And so really, I mean, next, all historians should be
- 19:12Speaker 10: I suppose on one level, is this neutral objective storytellers,
- 19:18Speaker 10: and of course other roles.
- 19:20Speaker 2: There are scholars we know who dig into who spend
- 19:23Speaker 2: their whole life writing academic articles and things of that nature.
- 19:27Speaker 1: So you know, this is the sixtieth presidential inauguration, and
- 19:31Speaker 1: you start really following all this when you were twelve.
- 19:33Speaker 1: So for kids, an inauguration might seem boring. I know
- 19:37Speaker 1: they took actually Vance's kids out because they didn't want
- 19:40Speaker 1: them to sit there through the whole thing. But for you,
- 19:45Speaker 1: will you focus on every inauguration because of this love
- 19:47Speaker 1: of history? Didn't you can remember or when did you
- 19:50Speaker 1: start really following even that the inauguration too?
- 19:53Speaker 2: Who I don't remember if I watched the inauguration of
- 20:00Speaker 2: President Obama, which would have been about the time when
- 20:03Speaker 2: I was starting to get interested in politics. I have
- 20:09Speaker 2: very vivid memories around the time of President Trump's first inauguration.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I was actually on Fox News in January of twenty seventeen.
- 20:20Speaker 2: I had an interview in New.
- 20:22Speaker 11: York City on Fox and Friends, and that day a
- 20:27Speaker 11: host named Ainsley Earhart interviewed me on Fox and Friends
- 20:33Speaker 11: and then went off to Trump Tower to interview Donald Trump.
- 20:38Speaker 2: And after my interview in the studio.
- 20:41Speaker 12: My family and I, because I was only thirteen at
- 20:43Speaker 12: the time, My family and I headed over to the
- 20:48Speaker 12: tower to see if maybe President elect Trump would come out,
- 20:52Speaker 12: and we sent one of my history Bytes books up
- 20:56Speaker 12: the elevator with an assistant of his.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Waited a couple hours, and then it came back down
- 21:02Speaker 2: with the assistant and it was signed to solid best
- 21:05Speaker 2: wishes Donald Trump. And Ainsley Earhart, who had interviewed me
- 21:10Speaker 2: that day, saw the book while she was interviewing Donald
- 21:13Speaker 2: Trump and said, I just interviewed that kid.
- 21:16Speaker 9: So that was three days before his first inauguration, and
- 21:22Speaker 9: you know, on a separate note, it's just it's amazing
- 21:26Speaker 9: how first of all, how quickly the years go by
- 21:28Speaker 9: eight years.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Since then, but also the fact that he's still around.
- 21:33Speaker 2: It's still around and very much relevant and changing the world.
- 21:39Speaker 1: It's incredible, truly a comeback. I mean, my personal story
- 21:43Speaker 1: is real quick. Donald Trump and I knew each other
- 21:46Speaker 1: from the Yankee Stadium era up in mister Steinman and Suite,
- 21:49Speaker 1: And the atory I have is that Regis Philba went
- 21:51Speaker 1: on his show and said, oh, Donald Trump took a
- 21:55Speaker 1: picture of me and little Alexander, and this was just
- 21:57Speaker 1: amazing that that's on record. My mom's got a degree
- 22:01Speaker 1: in public history. She saved every little appearance. So I
- 22:05Speaker 1: feel like we all have that historian. By the way,
- 22:07Speaker 1: President Tump is a historian. Many people will be like,
- 22:10Speaker 1: who's Mount, what's Matt McKinley, Who's William McKinley. Yet here
- 22:13Speaker 1: he is talking about it because he loves history that much.
- 22:18Speaker 1: I mean, he's a historian. Whether people want to.
- 22:21Speaker 5: Make he is, he's he's certainly full of a lot
- 22:28Speaker 5: of knowledge about our country and he's.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Making history, Alex, you know, and that's got to be
- 22:35Speaker 2: it's got to be exciting for him to get back
- 22:37Speaker 2: to the White House last night, pass near the Lincoln
- 22:40Speaker 2: bedroom if he if.
- 22:42Speaker 13: He didn't go in it as well, Oh the history history,
- 22:46Speaker 13: And I'm sure he recognizes that and and feels it
- 22:50Speaker 13: in the moment.
- 22:52Speaker 1: I remember he got the bust of Winston to troll
- 22:55Speaker 1: back after Obama spent the way. I mean, he loves
- 22:58Speaker 1: history that much. Now, real quick board, you're playing, We'll
- 23:03Speaker 1: get the legal glaviator Alan Jwan's biography another go? But
- 23:08Speaker 1: did he do that? Did he let you do that biography?
- 23:10Speaker 1: Because it felt, well, I've been railroaded, so much I
- 23:13Speaker 1: will be ben on my sort right now is that what.
- 23:16Speaker 2: It feeling was not as far as I could tell.
- 23:19Speaker 2: I had been researching the biography for four months before
- 23:23Speaker 2: I approached him about doing an interviewer or multiple interviews.
- 23:30Speaker 2: And when I got to talk with Professor Dershowitz and
- 23:34Speaker 2: did an interview with him on my History by Its
- 23:36Speaker 2: YouTube channel. At the end of that call, I told
- 23:40Speaker 2: him the biography that I was working on about him,
- 23:43Speaker 2: and that I wanted to make it the definitive book,
- 23:47Speaker 2: and he said he would be enthusiastic about that, and
- 23:50Speaker 2: we right then and there arranged to meet in New
- 23:54Speaker 2: York City and he said that I would be able
- 23:57Speaker 2: to have access to his archives at Brooklyn College. So
- 24:03Speaker 2: it went from there. And you know, some people might
- 24:06Speaker 2: think he controlled the narrative of the book, and I
- 24:12Speaker 2: mean it's just not true. I mean, he we did.
- 24:17Speaker 2: We had a number of interviews, and he was it
- 24:21Speaker 2: was very, very willing to discuss Jeffrey Epstein, his first marriage.
- 24:26Speaker 2: And he didn't read a single word of the manuscript
- 24:29Speaker 2: before it was published. He read the book for the
- 24:32Speaker 2: first time like like anyone else did. I mean, of course,
- 24:35Speaker 2: he got basically the first copy. But as far as
- 24:39Speaker 2: I know, he was not trying to try or he
- 24:45Speaker 2: I was not working at his BST in any way
- 24:49Speaker 2: he was. He went out of his way to make
- 24:52Speaker 2: sure that it didn't have the appearance of being of
- 24:56Speaker 2: being his a being his own basically censored version. I
- 25:04Speaker 2: remember one time we were in Miami at dinner and
- 25:08Speaker 2: my father took the bill, and Alan leaned in and
- 25:11Speaker 2: he said, Mike, I don't want you to think I'm cheap,
- 25:15Speaker 2: but until the book's over, I don't want anyone to
- 25:19Speaker 2: get the impression that I was buying Solomon's favor. And anyway,
- 25:22Speaker 2: once the book's published, I'll pay all the bills from
- 25:25Speaker 2: here on out. I mean, he was very careful, and
- 25:29Speaker 2: in fact, his only partial criticism of the book, or
- 25:35Speaker 2: the thing that surprised him was how much I quoted
- 25:38Speaker 2: his enemies, people like Noam Chomsky and Glenn Greenwald and
- 25:42Speaker 2: other folks that he's had somewhat acrimonious relationships with. So
- 25:48Speaker 2: I hope that answers your question absolutely.
- 25:53Speaker 1: And Solomon, this has been so great. I want to
- 25:56Speaker 1: have you back on but I want to ask you
- 25:58Speaker 1: one more thing, because of your talking about all this
- 26:02Speaker 1: Trump's Trump's also mentioned, you know the term annexing, right,
- 26:07Speaker 1: and then that's a very historical term. Are we not
- 26:10Speaker 1: done annexing countries and territories? I mean, that was the
- 26:14Speaker 1: thing we did with Lewis and Park. Are we doing
- 26:17Speaker 1: that again?
- 26:17Speaker 2: The vibe or what it's fascinating. The thing I noticed
- 26:23Speaker 2: with interest was that although President Trump mentioned acquiring or
- 26:29Speaker 2: getting back or however he phrased it, the Panama Canal
- 26:33Speaker 2: and renaming the Golf of Mexico to the Gulf of America,
- 26:37Speaker 2: he didn't mention Greenland or Canada and his inaugural speech.
- 26:41Speaker 2: I'm not saying that means he's not serious about his
- 26:44Speaker 2: intentions there. The Greenland question is interesting. I had the
- 26:48Speaker 2: pleasure of visiting Greenland a couple of years ago for
- 26:51Speaker 2: some filming for my YouTube channel, and I asked some
- 26:54Speaker 2: folks there as I went about my visits what they
- 26:58Speaker 2: would think about joining the United States. And although I
- 27:02Speaker 2: didn't do a robust survey, the folks I talked to
- 27:06Speaker 2: didn't have an interest in that. They're just focused on
- 27:10Speaker 2: becoming independent from Denmark and they've suffered at the hands
- 27:13Speaker 2: of Denmark. There were a whole number of Greenlandic women
- 27:16Speaker 2: who were sterilized by the Danish government in the nineteen eighties,
- 27:20Speaker 2: and that is being litigated now in different lawsuits. As
- 27:26Speaker 2: far as I've heard, Wow, so's it'll be interesting to see,
- 27:31Speaker 2: especially where the Greenland question goes, because as I understand
- 27:35Speaker 2: that other powers in the world, including China, would love
- 27:39Speaker 2: to not just gain a foothold, I think, but perhaps
- 27:43Speaker 2: gained control of Greenland for its natural resources. So, as
- 27:49Speaker 2: I said a minute ago, prediction is dangerous, but the
- 27:52Speaker 2: Greenland question is fascinating and it's something for us to
- 27:56Speaker 2: keep our eyes on.
- 27:58Speaker 1: So many resources. All right, real quick, because you are
- 28:01Speaker 1: my historian, guy, right, you are the historian since you
- 28:03Speaker 1: were twelve years old. Does a second term after you
- 28:08Speaker 1: were voted out for four years work? Like? Did it
- 28:11Speaker 1: work for Grover Cleveland? Will it work for Donald Trump?
- 28:14Speaker 1: I mean, is there her precedent for this that we
- 28:16Speaker 1: could say yes, this term after being out for four
- 28:19Speaker 1: years will be successful? And will he be able to
- 28:22Speaker 1: accomplish what he didn't accomplish in the first get to
- 28:24Speaker 1: accomplish in the first term, or you know, after he
- 28:27Speaker 1: lost the election? I mean, did Grover Cleveland accomplish his
- 28:30Speaker 1: goals in his second term four years apart.
- 28:35Speaker 2: To be frank, I am no Grover Cleveland expert, but
- 28:38Speaker 2: I will piggyback off what other folks have said, which
- 28:41Speaker 2: is that President Trump leaving office for four years allowed
- 28:45Speaker 2: him to not clear his thoughts, but basically gain a
- 28:50Speaker 2: perspective that perhaps you wouldn't gain if you went immediately
- 28:54Speaker 2: from your first to second term. A better understanding perhaps
- 29:00Speaker 2: states you had made a different set of people around
- 29:05Speaker 2: you who you know that he.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Didn't listen to established in you know. I think that's
- 29:10Speaker 1: the big thing. He did not listen to establishment this
- 29:13Speaker 1: time around. I think it'll be fun real quick before
- 29:16Speaker 1: I let you go, because I know I gotta catch
- 29:17Speaker 1: a flight back from back home from DC. Favorite historical
- 29:22Speaker 1: place you visited is it the Capital? Is it Independence Hall?
- 29:27Speaker 1: Or is it writ in downtown Manhattan, Federal Hall?
- 29:29Speaker 2: Like?
- 29:29Speaker 1: Have you visited all three?
- 29:32Speaker 2: I believe I have visited all three. If I visited
- 29:35Speaker 2: Federal Hall, it was a long time ago, I would say,
- 29:40Speaker 2: although it changes with my mood, I would say I
- 29:44Speaker 2: was incredibly moved to see.
- 29:46Speaker 13: The Lincoln Memorial at night yesterday evening walking around the Capitol,
- 29:52Speaker 13: and I climbed the steps in the dark and saw
- 29:55Speaker 13: mister Lincoln's face looking back at me as I ascended
- 30:01Speaker 13: the steps, through the columns into the as it says,
- 30:03Speaker 13: the temple which was built your memory of mister Lincoln,
- 30:09Speaker 13: and to enshrine him in this.
- 30:14Speaker 2: This memorial, as he is enshrined in the hearts of
- 30:16Speaker 2: all those for whom he saved the Union. That's the
- 30:20Speaker 2: text on the monument behind the statue of mister Lincoln.
- 30:24Speaker 2: And as you as you look out from the monument,
- 30:28Speaker 2: the view that Lincoln the statue has is right across
- 30:33Speaker 2: the reflecting pool to the Washington Monument and then behind
- 30:38Speaker 2: that to the US Capital Dome. And the night I
- 30:41Speaker 2: was walking around, the stars were out, and it was
- 30:46Speaker 2: just breathtaking to think about the natural wonders overhead and
- 30:50Speaker 2: the wonders of this civilization that incredibly brave and wise
- 30:58Speaker 2: and determined and women gave to us. Wow, what a moment.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Amazing And thankfully we have reenactors today, and I'm sure
- 31:08Speaker 1: as a story and you're friends with a lot of
- 31:10Speaker 1: reenactors who continue to the work of what these brave
- 31:14Speaker 1: men and women did during the revolutionary years. I mean,
- 31:17Speaker 1: these reenactments are so important. I'm sure you've had the
- 31:20Speaker 1: honor of attending many.
- 31:23Speaker 14: You know, I have a friend named Bill Potter who
- 31:27Speaker 14: is probably one of the country's greatest Civil War historians,
- 31:32Speaker 14: and he is he has been an avid reenactor a
- 31:36Speaker 14: different times throughout his career, and although I haven't seen
- 31:40Speaker 14: him in person, I.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Did see him in a movie once. If you've ever
- 31:45Speaker 2: seen the film Gods and Generals, there was I don't
- 31:48Speaker 2: know if it was a prequel or a sequel to
- 31:50Speaker 2: that movie called Gettysburg. Jeff Daniels was in it as
- 31:53Speaker 2: Joshua Chamberlain, and there were I think hundreds of Nassausans
- 31:58Speaker 2: reenactors used in that movie. And there's a shot where
- 32:01Speaker 2: my friend mister Potter, who's this tall Virginia.
- 32:04Speaker 6: With a white goatee, can be seen reenacting as I
- 32:08Speaker 6: believe one of the Confederate soldiers.
- 32:10Speaker 2: So that's my reenactment story there. You go.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Well, my honor to have today and keep doing the
- 32:21Speaker 1: great work, keep us updated all year. Look and maybe
- 32:25Speaker 1: if there are things that we can look at what's
- 32:28Speaker 1: happening historical perspective, I'll have you back on to discuss
- 32:32Speaker 1: all that.
- 32:33Speaker 2: It's an honor to be here with Lex. Thank you
- 32:36Speaker 2: for the time, and it's a pleasure talking with you. You're
- 32:39Speaker 2: an inspiring person.
- 32:41Speaker 1: And by the way, you can follow Solomon on X.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Tell us your handles there, Solomon.
- 32:48Speaker 2: My ex handle is Solomon J. Schmidt and my Facebook
- 32:54Speaker 2: is Solomon Schmidt desh author and my Instagram is Solomon
- 32:59Speaker 2: Schmidt under score author.
- 33:02Speaker 1: There you go. We will we will repost all of that.
- 33:06Speaker 1: And I'm so honored to have you on. And thank
- 33:08Speaker 1: you Lucas Ferrara for first having you on the show
- 33:10Speaker 1: and making this connection happen.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Hey, thank you to you. Alex. I appreciate you inviting
- 33:16Speaker 2: me on.
- 33:17Speaker 1: All right, Alex Scarett one leg up on the twenty
- 33:21Speaker 1: twenty five sixtieth presidential inauguration with Solomon Schmid. He was
- 33:25Speaker 1: in the area the whole weekend. Thanks for joining me, Solomon.
- 33:29Speaker 2: My pleasure, Alex. Thank you.