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The Study of the Book of Colossians Part 4 - Simply Christ Podcast · Simply Christ Podcast

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Welcome back to the Simply Christ podcast hosted by Leon
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Martin, along with Aaron Keaton, Melvin Martin, Andrew Schrock
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and Dan Blatz. Let's get right to it.
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All righty, I guess we are ready for another Monday Night Bible
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Study webinar, so thanks for being on here.
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Looking forward to continuing our study through the Book of
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Colossians and see what we can learn there.
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So. Part of me, I got a little bit
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of a rough throat tonight that will make it through.
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So tonight I got Andrew and Melvin with us going to go
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through the 1st chapter of Colossians starting in verse 18.
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And as always, last week was a good one.
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I went back and listened to it a couple days ago just to see if
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it was as good as I remembered it was and it was.
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I enjoyed it very much. And so you can do the same
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thing. You can go back and check it out
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at my website www.simplychristmin.com or
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Google Simply Christ Ministries. Find it there before we kick it
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off though. Melvin, would you open us with
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the word of prayer? Sure, let's pray.
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Father, we praise you tonight. We thank you for this
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opportunity to be able to dig into your word and that we can
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look into Your word and take it for the way it is written.
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Father, I just pray that you guide us with the Spirit,
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Father, as we go through your Word, that it wouldn't, we
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wouldn't speak things that we want to speak from the flesh,
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but that it would, we would speak through the Spirit.
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And Father, we just thank you for giving us wisdom and
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understanding. And Father, I just pray for the
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people listening that you would open their hearts and open their
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ears, Father, that they can maybe see you in a new, greater
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way and your Kingdom. And because it's not about us,
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it's about you. You are the King of Kings and
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the Lord of Lords, and we thank you and we praise you in Jesus
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name, Amen. Amen.
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All right, Colossians Chapter 1. So going through this last week,
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one of the things that that we talked about is how that verse
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1516 and 17 and we're going to continue this and just to kind
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of get the context here, he previous to the to verse 15, he
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was talking about who we are in Christ.
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That was what he he said. He delivered us from the power
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of darkness. He translated us into the
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Kingdom of his son. He made us suitable to be
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partakers of the inheritance of the Saints, swinging us with all
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might, whatever, whatever, whatever.
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Now verse 15 and on he's telling us why we can believe this
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basically, I think is what it what it is.
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He is going about talking about this, this Christ who is the
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image of the invisible, the first born of every creature.
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So on and so on goes he's whether they'll be from Thrones
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or the menus or powers. All things were created by him
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on for him and he is before all things and by him all things
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consist verse 17 and I we we talked about a little bit that
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This is why we can believe the things that he said about us is
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because he is the maker of us. He is the one that he says that
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he is the and another scripture is that he says that he is the
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author and the finisher in Hebrews of our faith.
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He, he wrote the plan and he wrote it based on our needs.
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He knew what when he made us, when he was, he was part of the
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creation team. God was however you would want
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to say that. And so when he designed us, he
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knew exactly what our shortcomings were, what our
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strengths were as a human race. And then he built this
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redemption plan that way. And that's why it is important
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that we know that this God is this, this Christ, this Redeemer
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knows what he's talking about when he calls us and, and he
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says that we he delivered us from the power of darkness.
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We can believe that we're supposed to believe that.
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So that that really was powerful last week, I thought to realize
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what what this is all about. And so we're going to is he's
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going to continue through this in verse 18 and verse 18 says,
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and he is the head of the body, the church who is the beginning,
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the first born from the dead, that in all things he might have
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preeminence. And I'll turn it over to you,
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Andrew here, here in a second. It's interesting to me that he
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says the first born from the dead.
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How many times have you seen something born from something
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dead that is OK, that is a seemingly innocent statement,
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but think about it for just one little second there and think
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about how that could have actually been.
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I think that is A and and really kind of the the central point of
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what he's going to talk about here.
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But anyway, Andrew, go ahead on your thoughts.
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Yeah, He uses that a lot to bring out his supreme supremacy
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or like his how he's superior to anything that has ever been
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before that he was God and man. He was begotten.
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In Hebrews we were dealing with the only begotten, the begotten
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of the Father or whatever was saying, and he was born the
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first born from the dead. And he's using.
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That. You say that's why he asked the
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pre eminence that in all things he might have the pre eminence
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that gives him a whole new level, that gives him a whole
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new authority, a whole new right.
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And Adam, Adam was the first Adam, this, the second Adam, the
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first Adam died and never came back.
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He wasn't born from the dead, he died unjustified, alienated,
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separated strangers and that Adam died without sin and he was
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born and roar raised from the dead and that gives him full
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authority. Like you look up the word
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preeminence. It means it's a state of
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paramount rank, dignity, or superiority, often meaning to be
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the best or most distinguished in a field.
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Key characteristics include undisputed, supremacist,
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supremacist, high distinction. Like on top, he's king, he's
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he's king, he's Lord of Lords, and he's the head of the church.
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He doesn't say a whole bunch of other things.
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He just says that he is the head of the church, and I use that a
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lot in our fellowship. If people try to think that I
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need to be Jesus for people, like I need to be the Holy
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Spirit for people, I need to get my stick out and start telling
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people how they need to act. I tell them Jesus Christ is the
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head of the church. I am not.
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Jesus Christ gave his Spirit to live and convict people.
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Andrew Schrock, hidden Jesus Christ is in fact the one in
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charge. He's the head of the church.
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And his point is that we follow him, not the Bishop, not the
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man, the Bishop. The ministry is supposed to
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teach. And I think the greatest part of
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ministry that no one talks about is if you look at Paul's
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ministry, what was he doing constantly?
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If the work of the ministry was what we would think today, then
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Paul kind of didn't do a really good job.
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His his job was to try to keep, get people to stop working and
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believe the gospel. The ministry today is trying to
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get you to believe the work, to prove that you believe the
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gospel where Paul's minister was stop working and believe the
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gospel. Stop believing people that are
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trying to tell you what to do. You know, the book of Colossians
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is all about that. It's about men have come in and
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begot you and bewitch you. And he's like, don't listen to
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him. Jesus Christ is the head of the
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church. Jesus Christ is the first born
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from the dead. Jesus Christ is righteous.
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His blood is what covers your sins.
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So I think it's quite awesome. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's good. That's that's absolutely right,
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Melvin. Yeah.
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You know, so I think we have gotten this really mixed up or a
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lot of people have gotten this mixed up in the church today.
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It seems like in a lot of churches and that, you know,
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pastors are bishops or whatever, or the head over everybody.
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And we blame it on the pastors and the the bishops, but it's
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not just all their fault either. Because the simple fact is, is
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that like you said, Andrew, there's there's a lot of people
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that just want someone to tell them what to do or to and they
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don't want to listen or to the spirit or they don't.
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I don't know what to write. I'm not sure what what they're
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thinking necessarily, but they just want a person, if someone
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in the flesh to tell them what to do.
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Where we just got done, you know, going through the book of
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Hebrews and now we're going through Colossians and it's like
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God is making a point. Well, Paul is making a point.
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God's making a point through Paul that look, guys, you have
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like in Hebrews, it says, you know, that we have a full access
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to the throne of God and that we can come to the throne boldly,
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each one of us, right? Not just the Bishop or not just
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the pastor of the church. And so he says, it says here he
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is the head of the body, the church.
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And in First Corinthians 11 where it talks about the head
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covering and most people, you know, that's all they talk about
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when they read First Corinthians 11.
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But there it says, but I would have you know that the head of
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every man is Christ and the head of the woman is a man and the
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head of the Christ is God. And so that's pointing out very
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plainly that it's, you know, God, Christ, man, and then the
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woman is the headship order. And we've got that all mixed up.
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And a lot of men don't want to take that responsibility, right,
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of of being able to listen to the Spirit and take control or
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take the lead, so to speak. They are looking to a pastor or
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someone else when Christ is the head of the church.
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And if we get that right, and I appreciate what you said,
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Andrew, about pointing that out to people that come to you
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because that is important because they need to know that
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it's not you or it's not me, it's not Leon, it's not anybody,
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it's Christ. Was Paul crucified, Right?
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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So and then he says that he is the beginning in the first born
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from the dead and that in all things he might have pre
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eminent. So it's just that's why he can
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be the head of the church and that's why you or me or Leon
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can't be a head of the church is because we're not the beginning
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of the first born, right. We didn't raise from the dead,
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right, like Christ did. And so we don't have that
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authority and we don't have all things in preeminence like
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that's not us, like we're not. So it's just pointing out here
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very clearly what it looks like when Christ is 1st and Christ is
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the authority in everything and not here.
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It's talking about the church in specific.
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Good stuff, Melvin. Yeah, Cameron just posted and
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said Amen, Andrew been through that one.
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It's Jesus Christ as the head, not Jesus Shrock.
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That's. Right, that's a good one.
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You just got a new name, man. That's good, but you know, it,
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it's actually an age-old issue. And I agree with what Melvin
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said. We, we bring it on ourselves.
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Actually in a lot of ways, it's not, it's not just the pastors
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and the preachers, it's fault if they take a role that is
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unbiblical, they actually get pushed into that role.
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Will you anyone that's ever been in in part in in a in a new, you
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know, church or whatever you get pushed, you get pushed for that
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spot and and it just made me think of, you know, the the
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children of Israel when they came up to the promised land to
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Canaan and they sent the spies in, you know, and the spies came
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back and and they were so discouraged.
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They knew the promise. They knew that God said that
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this land is there is all they have to do is go in and possess
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it right. That was that was the promise
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that God had given them very plainly through Moses.
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And yet when these spies came back, it says in numbers there
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they said one to another, let us make a captain and let us return
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to Egypt. And they wanted that so badly.
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They wanted to ordain themselves a, a physical captain.
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They were not satisfied with God the, the one that was actually
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leading them and, and, and had prepared the way for them all
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the way. But they wanted to go back and
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they wanted to go back so bad that they decided that they were
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going to stone the some of them with stones and turn back and go
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back. They were that desperate for a
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physical leader that they could see and talk at reason with.
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And that is? Exactly what we deal with in
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this regard, I think it's exactly the same thing.
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It, it would just be so much easier if we could have somebody
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to talk with that that can talk back with us rather than just
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rely on, you know, the Holy Spirit of all things or
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whatever. You know, it just, it, it feels
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to, to somebody that is carnal, that doesn't feel right.
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It doesn't feel good. And that's why we face that.
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That's why we face that all the time.
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And the head of the body, the church, the other thing about
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that is, yeah, he's the head. He's the upper part, the top,
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the first. You know, he has preeminence.
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And it's so much so actually that if he wouldn't be, the
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church wouldn't be. Yeah.
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You know, he is the sole reason that there is a body of Christ,
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that there is a body that, you know, otherwise it wouldn't be
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1. They're they're just there
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couldn't be. So yeah, when you're sharing
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there about the drone of Israel, if you go a little bit further,
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Moses went up to the mount and it was days, it wasn't years.
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It wasn't even, well, it was maybe a little over a month.
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They were like, we don't know what happened to Moses and this
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God that brought us out of Egypt.
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Let's make us a God. And they made a calf and they
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said that's what brought us out. Yeah, that's crazy, right To
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what you were talking about. Melvin and I, I kind of think of
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it in the way of also how men give up their leadership with
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their wives when they get married is the way we give it up
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is we think our job is to please and give our sweet girl
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everything she wants. But that is how we're going to
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have a great marriage is I won't make any decisions because I
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don't want to be this authoritarian.
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I so you don't have a backbone and when the wife like decision
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comes up, you go, hey, honey, what do you think about this?
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And you just, oh, that's up to you.
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I don't really care. Well, at that point you need to
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make a decision, but a lot of guys will then go, well, I would
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like for you to tell me what you would like and you can do that.
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But it I'm just using this for an example of how we then all of
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a sudden, eight years down the road, are shocked that she makes
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all the decisions that all of a sudden you are in the background
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like everything is like if and you're incapable of making
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decisions at this point because you haven't done it.
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You haven't learned by your mistakes.
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There was always you, you, you gave that head chip, that
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leadership away. And I know people can take this
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too far. There's all there are these men
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that grew up without being men and now they're kind of like
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over like overreacting. And to me, they're kind of
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authoritarians and, you know, abusing this whole concept.
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But I wanted to share that to say this, that I think a good
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leader in the church doesn't fall for that trap either.
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That trap of pleasing. Well, it's my responsibility.
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You know, I've heard the term Andrew, you need to man up and
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realize that you're the leader here and it's time you address
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some of these things. And you know, and I'm like,
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well, who's the head of the church?
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And then they were like, well, you're the head of this body.
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And it was about, it was about sin or the appearance of evil
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with a dating couple. And like, you need to address
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this. And I said, OK, I can do that.
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But on the same time, it's that sword cuts both ways.
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All people that have bad marriages can't show up at
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church either. Yeah, right.
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Good point. And now we're still all friends.
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And it cut to their heart and they repented and they're still,
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we're still friends, but there. If I was weak, I would have
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said, yeah, you know what? It is time I do my job.
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You know what I mean? So I think that is how like to
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what you're saying, Leon, is how we end up falling for it.
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Like Aaron did, Aaron did. Yep, Aaron did exactly that.
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Yeah, yeah, Cameron come in and again and said weak and lazy men
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push you up to that position if you're not careful.
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Yeah. And, and that's right.
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I the only, the only thing that I would say to that though, is
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that I would, I would say generally carnal men would push
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you into that position, ones that are unwilling to see the
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headship of Jesus in this matter of a church.
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Just what he's talking about the head of the body.
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You know, if you don't, if you can't recognize that, then of
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course you're going to be frantic for somebody to take
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control of the thing. I mean, what else is going to
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govern it? But if you, if you can
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understand what he's saying here in Colossians about himself,
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that takes all that worry away. If you, if you have dealt with
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the Holy Ghost before and have the Spirit of God inside of you
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directing your, your thoughts and your path.
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I mean, it's, it's comfortable. It's comfortable, but not to
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somebody that doesn't understand that, I guess.
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Well, there's also a balance. So there is a time to go and
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challenge your brother and say, Hey, what's going on here?
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But my challenge to that is just to the guy that would say, well,
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you're supposed to go and you know, well, have you.
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That's always my challenge. That's right.
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I I think if everyone of the church that has a problem with
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what's going on would go in love in the Christ like manner, go
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and talk about that person that they're talking to me about that
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they're concerned about. If everyone would say go up and
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just be brutally honest, like, Hey, this is this, this what it
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looks like? I was just want to know if
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you're aware of what this really looks like and what I mean it,
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it, it's not a good look. And you know, what's your idea
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here? If the voice of the whole body,
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if all these people would come and say, you know what, I they
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would realize that it's not just a couple of people that are
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angry. It's not this naggy old woman
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that always keeps complaining about everything.
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This. The whole church is speaking,
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and I'd rather have that if I was in trouble then finding out
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that they're talking about me behind my back every chance they
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get, complaining to each other about it.
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How about if there's a problem, go talk to me about it?
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And until I'm willing to do that, then I don't really have a
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right to go and complain to some guy that I think has a bigger
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stick than I do. Yeah.
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No, it's, I think this is a a subject that's important, you
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know, maybe not that wide of a subject, but it definitely,
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definitely effects a lot of people because the idea of a
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leader not jumping at the first chance to go, you know, tackle
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somebody's sin. That's nearly unheard of in the
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modern church today. It.
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Takes strength because at first I fell for it.
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I felt guilty. It's like yeah, what am I doing
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until I like wait a minute. So it's like you.
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That's why I appreciate so much for what you're saying.
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And you and Melvin was that we we make people that way.
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Yeah. Right.
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Like that's what you were saying right.
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Like we create our problem. Yeah.
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That we didn't know why because then when the tables are turned
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and. And you're the subject then.
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Oh, Andrew is this. He thinks he's somebody, you
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know. Yeah, but yeah.
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For sure. Yeah, it's, it's a fine, it's a
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fine line because I got pushed into that too, you know, and
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it's hard to make the right decision, you know, when someone
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comes to you and tries to think that you're the person that
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needs to straighten this out, whatever it is.
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And then it takes a lot of wisdom at that point to know
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what to do because it's so easy to give in to that person, you
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know, and say, well, yeah, you're right, you know, maybe,
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you know, and somebody needs to do something here or whatever.
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And The thing is, is that and there is time with and incidents
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where maybe it is someone needs to call something out.
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But the simple fact is this is that the Holy Spirit and God can
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do in 5 minutes what I takes me me as a human or a person to do
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in three years. You know so.
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Right. And I just want to say this,
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those people were not they were brought up that way though, Like
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I'm not not in these people. These people are good people.
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Like they they wanted what was right and I wanted what was
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right too. I didn't like this scenario
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situation either, but I just knew what the answer the answer
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was not me coming with the steak or kick this person out and kick
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that person out. Otherwise we'd have to kick
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everybody else out 'cause we all have issues.
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So that's right. Yeah.
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So. Yeah, it's funny how we get, you
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know. Yeah, I know I have a few
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problems myself, but I don't want you to go over there and
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fix that guy that's. That's technically what it is.
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It is. So, so there's one comment that
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I hear a lot of people say about churches, but since we're
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talking about churches is this is that they say, you know, I
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really like the way this church, you know, I like this church.
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And then we started going there and I started to see who these
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people actually are, right? And they say it's, and then we,
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we quit going. I'm not saying that's not
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legitimate sometimes, but the simple fact is this, you're
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messed up yourself too, right? I mean, why are you looking at
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someone else and saying, you know, I, I thought that this
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church was perfect until I figured out who these people
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actually are. Well, you're not perfect either,
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right? So I don't know.
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It's just a, it's a, it's a cycle that men are humans
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actually as a whole get into. It's been that way, you know,
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since the beginning of time, and it will be until the end of
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time. So yeah, just us talking about
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this right now just makes this verse so sweet.
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it does.
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And so rest. He is up there.
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He earned all the credentials. He's the one that died, he's the
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one that blood bled. He's the one that is in US, and
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he's the one that is has US presenting us up before the
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throne of God. He's the one that has our
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spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.
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How pathetic. That's right.
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And how foolish of us to go. You know what?
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God is wanting me to go be the head of something, you know,
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like, yeah, I don't have the credentials like.
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You know, we're not, we're not even equipped.
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Properly. Yeah.
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You know, this is quite a sweet verse.
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Very free. Very free.
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Yeah, Amen. Yeah, Oh yeah, for it please the
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Father, that in Him, and should all fullness dwell, I'm going to
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read verse 20. And having made peace through
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the blood of his cross by him to reconcile all things unto
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himself by him, I say, whether they be things in earth or
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things in heaven. It it, you know, talking about
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this being a, a comfortable verse, one that that brings
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peace, knowing that Christ is the head of the body.
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We, it takes our responsibility or our sense of responsibility,
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maybe a way to try to reconcile everything because Jesus already
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did. And and he is the head.
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He's the thinking part of this body.
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But it's it's pleasing to God that Christ should have this
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completeness. This is this is interesting.
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Any comments on 18 or or 19 and 20 or one or the other about?
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Yeah, if you look, I just searched the word fullness and
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it is a blessing to read through them all as Psalms talks about
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him being the creator and the fullness and like he is
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basically repeating what Paul's saying there.
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It's almost like Paul wrote read Psalms.
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But the one that caught my attention was in John 116.
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Let's go there. It says, well, I'm going to
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start in 15. John bear witness of him and
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cried saying this was he of home.
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I spake he that cometh after me is preferred before me, for he
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was before me, and of his fullness have all we received,
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and grace for grace for the law was given by Moses, but grace
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and truth came by Jesus Christ. So if that's the case, I don't
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want to put my finger on it. I don't want to put my wisdom on
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it. I don't want to put my emptiness
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on it. When the fullness of God is in
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Christ Jesus, when he is the fullness and he gives us his
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fullness, then why do you why do why do we want when in my kind
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of I don't have any fullness except for the fullness of
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Christ that is given to me. So I mean that is, that is, that
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is sweet. Yeah, yeah.
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It's like the glove, you know, we're just the glove, but inside
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is the fullness. Yeah.
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What is? What makes it active and when
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worth anything? And then when it keeps going, I
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didn't comment on verse 20 where that he made peace on which
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cross. I preach that all the time.
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That's my one of my favorite preaching verses.
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His cross. It was his blood and his cross.
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You know, that's how he reconciled us.
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He did the reconciling. I, God didn't look at me and go,
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OK, Andrew's done enough. He's been faithful enough, long
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enough that I'm going to reconcile the reconciling, the
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bleeding, the redemption, the deliverance was done while I was
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not even born yet. In fact, the plan was before the
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foundation of the world. So I don't want to interfere
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with that. I don't want to put my human
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ideas, Adam on top and try to run a show the way I think it
31:08
should be done because Jesus Christ, it's the head of the
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church. He's he's on top.
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He has all the preeminence, He's the one that died and he's the
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one that reconciles people to God.
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And it's my job as a minister and as leaders, it's our job to
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tell people that. It's our job to be strong men,
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strong leaders that will tell people don't follow that that's
31:31
wrong. It's not the gospel.
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That is a man made traditions that you're following and it's
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beguiling you, It's bewitching you, it's deceiving you and
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you're no longer in the faith. But that's our job.
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That's where we can be men and strong leaders.
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You know, that's that's it. Like it's to keep people
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believing the gospel. Amen, boy, couple couple weeks
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ago, I think you said Andrew that that that guy that said
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with the gospels this easy, you know what is our job?
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I think you just answered that question right here.
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That is our job, you know, making sure that we know that
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there is peace available through his cross and it's done.
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It's not something that that we got to come up with some Helvin
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Melvin, that your beauty, I'll get you.
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Please. OK.
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You're good. Sorry, I had muted it so it
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where it says very please the Father that in him should all
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the phone is dwell. I'm just going to say one thing
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to that in my mind. This is just he is making a
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statement here that that is why Christ can be the head of the
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church and that he is preeminence over all things
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because the IT because it please the Father that in him should
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all the phone is dwell in Christ.
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And so it like gives him the authority to be able to be the
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head of the church. And then it says in having made
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peace through the blood of the cross by him to reconcile all
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things unto himself. That is the part that stood out
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to me that by him to reconcile all things unto himself by him.
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I say whether they be things in heaven or thing or things in
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earth or things in heaven. So the simple fact is, is that
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sin and religion and all these things separates us from Christ,
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right, and from God. But it is Jesus that reconciles
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us to him, right? And and the blood of the of his,
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like you said, his cross, not not anybody else's cross, but
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Jesus cross that reconciles us, in other words, brings us back
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to him. Now we are his bride like we we
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are part of Christ and we were lost and now we're found, right?
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We were darkness and now we have light and all those things.
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That's just so awesome. But the thing that stood out to
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me too is it says whether they be things in earth or things in
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heaven. So again, that is like, OK, so
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does that mean you know everything?
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Well, it says whether they be things in in earth or in things
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in heaven. One of the verses I think of, I
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guess, is Romans 8. It says, when I think of that, I
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think of this, and 821, and 22 and 23.
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It says, because the creature itself also shall be delivered
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from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the
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children of God. For we know that the whole
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creation groweth and travaileth and pain together until now, but
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not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first
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fruits of the Spirit, even we growing within ourselves,
34:51
waiting for the adoption to the wit and the redemption of our
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body. And it's only through Jesus
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Christ that that is possible that that we can be our bodies
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can be redeemed and and reconciled back to him, that we
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can be reconciled back to him. So it's just a very powerful
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verse. This whole thing is, what if we
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can grasp this, like you were saying earlier, Leanne, or one
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of you I think was saying that if we can just grasp this whole
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thing, we would just yeah, it changes your life.
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It just does. It really does.
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And you know what? What makes it so special?
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When I, when I think about having made peace through the
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blood of His cross and by him, reconcile all things unto
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Himself. So then if this were another
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human being speaking, it would be impressive.
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But this is the the guy that's doing the reconciling back unto
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himself and the guy that made the peace on the cross is a guy
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is a man is a a being that knows not only your actions, but he
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knows your deepest thoughts. He knows your intense.
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That is what makes this so special.
36:09
And he, he knows how utterly unsophisticated and radical and,
36:16
and dumb and and evil, the desires that we have are just,
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you know, indescribable sometimes.
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And yet he went to the cross, you know, before, while we were
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yet sinners, He says he went and he died for those.
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And that is an incredible story. Who and who would ever do
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something like that? You know, scarcely for a
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righteous man would one die, right?
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I mean, and and here this this Christ, you knew everything
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about us are the best and the worst.
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And yet he did and yet he did and he reckon siled us again
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back to himself. That's that's just beauty.
36:58
That's a gift, and I'm telling. What do you think about the
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peace? What is the biggest thing the
37:05
missing in the world is peace and peace is not something that
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how do I say this? It helps me to know that Jesus
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Christ made peace. It's not up to me to make peace
37:24
necessary. God made peace for me.
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That gives me a whole lot of peace.
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You know, the the reason people don't have peace, or could I say
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it as radical as this, If we understood who made peace and
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that it wasn't up to us to make peace, but that Jesus Christ
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made peace for us, we have no other option than to have peace.
37:55
If we understand it, that is, that is the result of us
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understanding that is where peace.
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I mean, if God made peace and then I have peace, I can, I can,
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I could have peace knowing that got me peaceful.
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The reason I don't have peace is if somebody's telling me that I
38:16
need to do something in order to get peace.
38:21
The reason I can have peace when the worst things are happening,
38:26
when everybody is saying there's wars and rumors of wars and that
38:30
the end times are near and we need to prep and all that.
38:33
All those things that build up anxiety and stress.
38:36
And yeah, I'm not saying you put your head in the sand, but so
38:40
many people are all these Youtubes and things of trying to
38:44
scare you to breathe fear. It's like, oh, this is doom and
38:47
gloom. I see what Trump just did here.
38:50
It's another fulfillment. I don't like what I'm seeing,
38:52
blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it's going to happen.
38:55
God already told us it's going to happen.
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Everything's going to go to hell in a handbasket at the end.
39:01
We already know that. But guess what?
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Jesus Christ made peace and I can help.
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Yep, genuine peace right now. Yeah, and that, and that's a
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true and that's a true peace. You know, when when US men or
39:20
humans try to make peace, it's just carnal.
39:24
It's, it's, it doesn't last like it, it's a superficial thing.
39:28
It just doesn't it, it, it's temporal like, but when Jesus
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made peace on the cross, it's like it, it's forever, right?
39:37
And when he gives us that peace, we can have peace.
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That kind of peace in the midst of chaos, actually, where, where
39:46
the peace that man is trying to bring is like, you know, like
39:50
everything is just nice and evil.
39:54
Well, that's not peace. That's not true peace.
39:58
Well, have you ever, have you ever thought about it too, that?
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You have to have a certain amount of authority in order to
40:04
create peace. Yeah.
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So. So we have recently, we have
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heard a lot about peace through strength.
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That's one of Trump's cries, you know, peace through strength.
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You know, we're going to have the best military in the world
40:17
that way. When we say you do this, you do
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this, and because of the strength that we have, we have
40:22
peace. And that is actually how it is
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in this case when God says that I have made peace, he made
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peace. When when we say I want to make
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peace with you, God, but we don't have access to Christ, we
40:38
can make, we don't have the right tools to make peace.
40:41
No, we don't have the power to make peace.
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God does. That's right, Christ does.
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So when he says that that's the way it's going to be the same
40:51
way that when President Trump says that you're going to open
40:53
the strain or whatever to let the oil through, they're going
40:56
to open it up or they're, you know, no, because we, we have
41:00
the authority right now to make that happen when we.
41:05
And Jesus Christ had the authority and credentials to
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make peace. Absolutely.
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That's right. We'll do it, Melvin.
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That's right. That's so good, Leon.
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Like, yeah. Yeah, 100%, man, I'm telling you
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this is this is for real. The other thing I thought about
41:20
this verse, Melvin, you touched on this just a little bit,
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whether they be things in earth or things in heaven, that is
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another element that brings me peace because so right now on
41:32
earth here, I know that God, I feel peace toward God, not
41:39
worried about meeting him because of what Christ said that
41:44
he did to me in him right? So I have I have that peace and
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he says or things in heaven. So when I get to heaven, when I,
41:53
when I leave this earth, that exact same mediator, that exact
41:58
same piece, that exact same statement is going to be the
42:01
same up there. So I won't, I won't get up
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there. It'll get different operating
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system and I'll be like, oh man, I was OK down there.
42:09
But now that I'm up here, I'm in trouble.
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No, it's not. It is in heaven and on earth.
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This thing is continuously through.
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It is. We are completely covered from
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from earth to the grave wall. That's right, I don't.
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Know, I don't know if that's exactly what that's saying
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there, but I think it is. Of course it is.
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Remember, He's the creator of all things.
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He's above all principalities and powers.
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He triumphed over them openly. He.
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He created the principalities and powers.
42:37
He created life and death. He created time and matter, time
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and space. There was no time before he
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created it. And He holds the beginning and
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the end. He's the alpha in the Omega, the
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one that was dead but now is alive.
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Like he holds both ends. And he made peace from both
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ends. That's right.
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Amen. And connected us, reconciled us,
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made US1 with the one up there. Like when he shed his blood, he
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took that blood and went up to the temple up there.
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And he put out blood from down here up there.
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And that blood up there is speaking better things.
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I'm trying to think real quick. In Hebrews we there was a verse
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being a mediator because this one, he doesn't die, you know, a
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better mediator for reason of anyway, think about Jesus being
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our mediator. He's forever the same, forever
43:38
and ever. The Alpha Omega, just what you
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were saying. That's good.
43:43
Yeah, yes, indeed. I'm reading the comments, the
43:48
mind pollution on social of the social media world at the moment
43:53
is is a part of our life and ministry that we need to know
43:57
how to manage. Yeah, that's right.
43:59
Because there's a lot of crud out there.
44:02
We'll take the piece. Of right away.
44:04
Oh yeah, they will. But boy, if you read stuff like
44:07
this and you just go ahead and, and pay attention to it, man,
44:11
it's, it's exciting. I don't care who you are.
44:15
That's right. All right, That doesn't get your
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fire lit, your woods wet. I like that comment.
44:26
All right, 21 And you that were sometime alienated and enemies
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in your mind by wicked works. Yet now hath he reconciled.
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And I'll let you give your thoughts on this, Andrew.
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But the one thing that that comes to mind when I read that
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verse is that there's two kind of people.
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There's the ones that were alienated and they're the ones
44:53
that are no longer alienated, that that captures every single
44:57
human being in in that ever lived right there because there
45:00
wasn't, there was only one and his name was Jesus and not Jesus
45:04
Shrog either. There was.
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Only use that when I'm preaching.
45:11
Oh, trust me, I'm going. To be but, but what I'm saying
45:16
is every one of us were sometime alienated except one person
45:22
ever. So, you know, and and I use that
45:25
as part of the Gospel message sometimes, you know, because you
45:28
don't, you weren't just naturally a friend of God's that
45:34
that came by the blood of Jesus. No other way.
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So anyway. Andrew, go ahead.
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Yeah, the the word that pops out for me on this one by wicked
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works, agonated by wicked works, all of the horrible stuff that I
45:49
know I've done, and just the human side of humanity, the dark
45:54
side, the darkness, the flesh, all the things that we don't
45:59
like, that we hate, that it doesn't make peace, that brings
46:03
guilt, condemnation, despair, anguish, feel like just no
46:12
peace, the opposite of peace, the opposite of deliver, the
46:16
opposite of light. That is what alienated us.
46:19
That's what separated us. And he said that's the exact
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thing that he came back to restore that, you know, that
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means the wicked works do not intimidate.
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Do not intimidate me to come to God.
46:37
Because that's exactly what God said, that.
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Yeah, you know, those wicked works that alienated you.
46:43
I know all the bad stuff you did.
46:45
I can see right through you. But guess what?
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I fixed it. I fixed it for you.
46:52
You know, that's good news for Sinner.
46:55
Sinners need to hear that. Don't shy away from God because
46:59
of your wicked works. That's exactly what why God came
47:04
and made peace for the blood of His cross to reconcile you.
47:08
It's because of your wicked works that were the problem.
47:11
So don't let the thing that God had to fix be the thing that
47:15
keeps you from coming to the fix.
47:20
Yep, They're either going to be right there in front of your
47:23
wicked works or either going to be right there in front of you,
47:26
or they're going to be completely gone.
47:28
There will be nothing in between that.
47:30
Either all of them or none of them.
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Oh boy, that's good, Melvin. Yeah, I just want to point out
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there he says that you were sometimes alienated and enemies
47:39
in your mind by wicked work. Yet now have you reconciled?
47:44
It's just like you said, Andrew. Sinners think that they can't
47:49
come to God because of the wicked things that they have
47:52
done. And that is the thing in their
47:53
mind actually that is blocking them from actually accepting the
47:59
gospel of Jesus Christ because it's not true.
48:03
That's not true. It doesn't matter what you have
48:05
done in the past or how wicked your works were and that you
48:10
think in your mind how wicked they were.
48:14
But the the truth is, is that yet now had he reconciled like
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Christ has reconciled that by the the cross.
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And in Romans 59 and 10 it says this much more than being now
48:28
justified by his blood, we should be saved from wrath
48:31
through him. For if when we were enemies, we
48:34
were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more
48:38
being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
48:41
So in other words, when we were in our wicked works and we were
48:47
enemies to God Despite that Christ died on the cross for
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that and that we just need to believe that and, and trust in
48:57
that by faith, right? And and then we can be
49:01
reconciled. That's so that's good news.
49:06
It's like it's what he had on that's actually what was on his
49:09
mind. But that's that that's what he
49:12
had in mind. It's through reconcile sinners.
49:16
I mean, I came to save that which was lost.
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I didn't come for the people that were whole.
49:26
I came for those that need a physician and you became their
49:31
physician. And Romans 80 says there's no,
49:35
therefore no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
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Amen. So if you have condemnation,
49:42
you're guilty, then you need to renew your mind, like Melvin was
49:47
saying. Yep, so must the Son of Man be
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lifted up like the serpent was in the wilderness, that all that
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would look at him would be healed.
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All. Right, one more 22 And by the
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way, verse 21 through the remainder of the chapter, verse
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20 or yeah, 29 is all one sentence again.
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So I don't know if the if Paul forgot how to write short
50:16
sentences or if he was really on a roll.
50:17
And I bet he was really on a roll because of what he was
50:20
writing. But anyway, yeah, it's kind of
50:22
hard to chop this up some some of it.
50:24
But anyway, 21 And you that were sometimes alienated and enemies
50:29
in your mind by wicked works, yet now have he reconciled in
50:33
the body of his flesh through death to present you holy and
50:38
unblameable and unreprovable in his sight.
50:42
And and again, I'll go back to what what I said earlier.
50:48
We're dealing with the the guy that can see right through as
50:51
you mentioned it a minute ago, Andrew, And he says that he can
50:56
present us holy. That is a that is a pill for me
51:01
to swallow. It is it is hard for me to
51:05
swallow that that Christ who is so loving would take and have
51:13
the, the audacity, the guts to be able to present me.
51:20
You know what that means? Like so I take something and I,
51:23
I hold it up to be inspected. I Christ is saying, this is one
51:29
of mine. This is 1.
51:32
That the blood that I shed on the cross he accepted, and for
51:37
that reason I can hold him up and I can present him to you,
51:41
God, the holy God, the creator of the universe, and say this
51:45
man is holy and unreprovable and unblameable.
51:52
That is that. That is almost too good to be
51:54
true. That is almost too good to be
51:57
true, man. But that's why we live.
52:01
That's why Christians walk with a smile on their face right
52:03
there. That's a good part of it,
52:05
Andrew. Yeah, that's the gospel.
52:08
When you preach it, they're most people will call it easy
52:11
believism. Yep, it's it's too easy, but it
52:18
is too easy if you're looking at something that you need to fix.
52:25
But when you see that you're so unfixable that you're so
52:29
unrepairable that you're way more wicked than you think that
52:33
you're way more filthy than you think that God looks at you and
52:36
he goes, Oh my gosh, even the thoughts are corrupt.
52:40
I mean, their throat is in constant Opal and sepulcher.
52:43
There's murder, there's strife, there's like, I mean, read
52:47
Romans one if you think you're pretty decent.
52:49
He says we're all going out of the way.
52:51
We're all like a bunch of coffins and for him to take that
52:59
garbage that still of a human being and purify it through the
53:05
purifying of his blood to to the point where it's an unholy thing
53:11
becomes a holy thing and a blameable thing becomes an
53:15
unblameable thing and presents us that way before God.
53:21
Andrew shock is holy and unbelievable.
53:24
That's hard for me to swallow too, but I'm I'm choosing to be
53:28
thankful. It's like I don't want to come
53:31
with my vegetables and say, oh God, I know what you did.
53:34
I want to show my appreciation here.
53:36
Here is I'll do this for you to kind of offset the weight here
53:40
because I'm so grateful. No, I already know that that's
53:44
just a slap in the face of what he's done.
53:47
The only thing that I can say is thank you.
53:49
Thank you and walk in the light that he has made me in as much
53:53
as absolute possible pray with Paul when he said he he doesn't
53:58
quit praying for us that we grow in spiritual wisdom and
54:00
understanding. And I think the reason guys that
54:03
he goes through here and just is saying all the effects of the
54:08
cross. I think it's in case we have
54:10
missed it down the line, the ramifications of the cross.
54:14
He goes, you know what this means.
54:16
You're holy and unblameable in his sight.
54:19
That's what the blood of the cross did when I'm talking about
54:22
that. He's the head.
54:23
He's before all things, and by him all things consists and all
54:26
the credentials of Christ. And what that all means.
54:29
It means that what it means for you is that you were alienated.
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You, you were alienated by your wicked works, and now you're
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reconciled. And now you're a holy that was
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not holy, but now is holy and unblameable and unreprovable.
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Can't be judged, can't be condemned.
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Unreprovable. No contest.
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No court case, no jury. It's been dealt with.
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You're unreprovable in his sight.
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Let's take it to the bank. Yep, out of the universe can
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take his flashlight and shine every angle on you and you're
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still on blame on what does holy mean, man?
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I don't know. Yeah, Melvin.
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I'm not holy, I know that, but I'm holy because of Christ is
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holy, you know. So the reason that he can
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reconcile us back to him and the reason that he can present you
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and me holy and unblameable and unreprovable is because of the
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first part of that verse. He says in the body of his flesh
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through death. So in other words, he became
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flesh. The Bible says he became one of
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us. He became like us, but without
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sin and because of that and then then he died on the cross for
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for us. But the body of his flesh is
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what stood out to me like, because he became like me, just
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like me, like I can't say, well, you know, Jesus is, you know,
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Almighty, which he is almighty. But because of that, you know,
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he can't, I can't believe in this or or believe that Jesus
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makes me holy or can reconcile me.
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But but he became like me and he was tempted in all ways as I am
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tempted. And so that makes him able to
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reconcile me, just me and my flesh, right?
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I can be reconciled and I can be holy and unblameable.
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That's a powerful thing. In 2nd Corinthians 511 it says
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this. For he had made him to be sin
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for us who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness
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of God in him. So I can't be holy and then
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there's no way that I'm unblameable or unreprovable.
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But it's only because of what Christ, because of what Christ
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has done and and who I am in Him.
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Yeah, I am. Let's not forget the reason he's
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writing this is because men have been spoiling believers through
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philosophy and vain deceit after the tradition of man and not,
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not not after Christ. When we have this kind of
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understanding of this full complete redemption, when
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someone comes along and says, hey, you know, I think we should
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still keep the Sabbath. We didn't really enter into that
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rest. We don't have true peace.
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In order to really bring peace in your life, if you have to set
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away a day of rest. It's why they're shocked when I
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want to just go, you know, like. Yeah.
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Not for a second. Like it makes me so mad.
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And you can see that that anger is in Paul here where he's just
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like nailing a gospel like and in him as well.
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And he says they beguile you vain deceit, vain, not
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meaningful. And what's the problem?
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Days, days sounds pretty innocent to us.
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And that is where leaders, we need a backbone, man.
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We need to stop saying, well, at least they believe that Jesus
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Christ died for their sins. I'm glad for that.
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Paul doesn't say that. He says you've been deceived.
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He says right in this next verse, if you continue in the
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faith and not moved away from the hope of the gospel.
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Yeah. And he's calling it moved away
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if you keep one part of the law. Is that clear?
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Is that clear in Galatians? He says that if you are
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circumcised, you are what? Fallen from grace. 11 law,
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circumcision that wasn't even put in place by Moses.
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It was through by a it was a covenant that got made with
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Abraham, the father of faith. And he said, if you are
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circumcised, you're not you're that's another gospel.
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So how strong are we as leaders, as people that minister the
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gospel and not allowing that garbage, that leaven, he calls
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it a leaven that destroys a whole loaf of bread, a whole
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body of Christ. How strong are we?
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Or we go, you know, you know, I can really appreciate that
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family can really appreciate that person.
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You know, their hearts in the right place.
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They want what God wants. No, you believe in another
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gospel. You're being enticed and you're
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being deceived. Yeah, man, that's, that's good
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stuff. I could just sit here and
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listen. This is, I'd listen to a message
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like this for quite a while without even blinking, I think.
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But anyway, our, our, our, our hours up.
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Anything else that really has to be said on top of this yet?
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I keep some for next time I guess I.
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I I'm getting worked up now I better not.
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Yeah, keep keep 1 shell of your gun for next week.
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That's right, don't empty it out.
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No, no. Leaders cannot always go by
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feelings and sympathy and that unconditional love that
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undermines the gospel of Christ. Can't do it.
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Yeah. It's never worth it.
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It will never help anybody. It doesn't bring peace.
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It'll bring everybody back into bondage.
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And it's it's not. Another thing that ties into
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that is come to my mind is things that I have struggled
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with is pleasing man, being a man pleasure.
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You know, that's another thing that call falls into that
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category, what you're talking about and you're, you know,
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trying to please others. So yeah, we need backbones.
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That's that's correct. Not just the leaders, but
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everybody. We all of us that are, you know,
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believe the gospel and are walking in Christ.
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We all are ministers, right? So we all need backbones.
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No more of this double minded nonsense.
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That's right. And I that that's a tough one
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for me right there. It's easy for me to kind of
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well, like, you know, you were saying Andrew, about, you know,
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getting pressured into telling someone that they're sinning.
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You know, that is man, that's the tough one for me.
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It's easy for me to go down that road easy, you know.
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But he, yeah, he's going to make it plain next week when we get
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to this, if you can, we're wholly unbelievable and
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approvable. If you continue in the faith,
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that simple. You step away from that and it's
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no longer that way. So anyway, praise the Lord,
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we're we're good, God is good. Christ was complete when he said
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it is finished. He meant it and there was no
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bones about it. That's that's the way it is and
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that's the way it was then and it still is today.
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So I think we still have a comment we haven't read yet.
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Yes, Sir. At matter of fact that Cameron's
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been active, he says that and on fire.
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Love it. But Cameron was too.
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Yeah. All kinds of good stuff on
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there. So, yeah, the Levites would
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really be jealous of our ministry if they knew of it.
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That's good. Yeah.
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So anyway, thanks for that, Cameron.
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I appreciate your comments on there.
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Some good stuff, Jerry, Amen. I agree with you, good stuff,
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good stuff. So back next week, we're going
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to tear right into verse 23 and see once what else we can learn
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there. This has been a really, really
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blessing evening, so I'm going to go and ponder what we've been
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taught tonight. God bless you guys.
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1:02:50
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