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Mark Gronowski injury update, MLB Playoffs thoughts, Nick Osen previews Iowa/Wisconsin & the Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Noreen Condon on a
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  Wednesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller for
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  the next couple of hours to talk sports with you.
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  throughout the state of Iowa. Here's what's coming up on our
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  program and old friends going to kick things off, Nicholson, he
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  now covers Wisconsin. He's part of 24 over 7 sports.
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  We'll talk to Nick. We'll catch up with Nick and
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  we'll ask me about the football game.
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  Obviously Wisconsin hosting the Hawkeyes.
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  That is a 6:00 kick. We'll talk to Nick Olson coming
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  up at 12:25. And then the voice of the Kansas
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  City Chiefs, Mitch Holtis his regular spot, Papa John's
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  with us every Wednesday with the exception of the bye week 1245
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  on Wednesdays. Off to Chicago to kick off hour
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  number two, 2-3 hours in advance of game #3 Brewers and Cubs,
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  Priester versus Tyone. We'll do some Cubs, obviously
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  with the capper and some Bears as well.
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  Recap his Eagles trip. Not the Philadelphia Eagles, the
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  Eagles, as he saw those, the band at the sphere last week.
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  So I'm kind of anxious to hear how that went and then what are
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  we going to do at one third over?
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  Dane Mazatani, He's back from from the UK.
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  Of course, he was over there covering the Vikings as they
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  beat the Browns. The Vikings on a bye week.
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  Dane mazatanitwincities.com, Saint Paul Pioneer Press.
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  He will join us at 1:30. Where are the Vikings at as they
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  are in the midst of their bye. I guess more importantly, who's
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  going to be under center when the team resumes play next week?
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  And then Trent will make his picks.
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  now. They sponsor Trent's plays of
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  the day. So four games of baseball today.
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  Buckle up. This is going to be a dinger.
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  I think it's going to be great. Looking forward to this one.
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  We got elimination games and all of them.
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  Chances of bounce back for your Blue Jays after the bats came
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  alive for the Yankees in a big time way and they've been
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  swinging it in a big level. Definitely advantage in the
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  starting spot. Well, it's Louis Varland who
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  gave up the home. You know what?
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  Here's the crazy part, right? That was hell of a pitch.
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  It was up and in 100 miles an hour and maybe the best hitter
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  in the game today. I mean, Aaron Judge just was
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  able to muscle that baseball out of the ballpark.
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  Well, if not, didn't leave the ballpark, hit the foul slash
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  fair pole and Kareem back into the playing field.
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  But my God, did he get all of that.
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  But it was a hell of a pitch. It really was.
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  And at that time he just felt like opening your app and
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  betting and live betting. Here come the Yankees and they
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  won nine to six. We'll see where it goes.
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  It's not like the Jays rolled over.
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  I mean, they they put up a six spot on the board.
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  But I agree with you wholeheartedly because last time
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  we saw Schlitter. Oh, yo-yo, yo-yo.
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  He was unbelievable. The Cubs will send Tyon against
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  Priester. He's had an unbelievable year.
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  I do, and I'm anxious to hear your take on this because we
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  both like Bryce Miller, but he hasn't been great.
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  Casey Mize, on the other hand, has been OK.
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  I, I, I give Detroit a puncher's chance.
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  I don't give the Phillies much a chance in the night cab because
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  Nola has been gone for a while. Yamamoto has been really good as
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  of late. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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  I'm with you, Nola. He has been.
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  You've been feeding him this year.
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  He has been a bank for you. He's been just charging it up
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  time in and time out. Yeah, I am with you.
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  I think this is Dodgers. I don't want to say home free.
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  Well, the price definitely tells you what it is.
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  They're -180 them. Yeah.
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  Are two of the biggest prices on the board here today with the
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  Cubs. We'll see what they do with the
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  lineup. But Priester, you said it.
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  The guy is just outstanding. They find another one, right?
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  And just these young pitchers come through ready to go.
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  He's been outstanding. It feels like a lot of teams may
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  be up against it here today. Yeah, I think so.
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  We'll we'll see where it goes. But I give Detroit a chance to
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  extend to Friday. I think the Cubs are up against
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  it. I think the there will be a game
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  back in Toronto Game 5 and I I don't think that the National
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  League nightcap goes on. We'll see where this goes.
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  So we'd get no baseball tomorrow if both the Dodgers win and the
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  Brewers win? Really.
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  Yeah. Because the American League's
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  off till Friday. Off till.
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  Friday, right? So the Dodgers would play and
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  the Cubs would play well, I mean, fingers crossed.
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  Have they set times for those yet?
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  No. They haven't, OK, They're
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  waiting obviously to see who advances tomorrow and and who
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  has it and it's going up against Eagles, Giants this Thursday
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  Night Football. Speaking of that, Speaking of
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  Thursday Night Football, well, football returns tonight.
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  We have football. I saw this.
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  Did you see the nugget that came out?
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  What's that? That there is now a college or
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  an NFL game for the next 49 straight days?
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  Yes, that we'll get to Thanksgiving weekend or Monday
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  night of Thanksgiving, the Monday night following
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  Thanksgiving and we'll have football on every net.
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  Now, is there a Wednesday game? I don't think there is.
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  So that must be when the the streak comes to an end because
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  there's not a game usually Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
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  So that's when it would stop and then obviously start again on
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  Thursday. And yeah, pretty special time
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  action. It's it's kind of, it's good and
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  it's bad. I mean it's good that if you
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  love football, it's bad that you know that sadly we're at the
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  midway point, right, with all of this football.
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  But it is what it is. Seasons come and seasons go and
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  it's been really good so far in both in both camps.
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  Does Luke Fickle have to win this game?
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  And I'm going to ask this to Nick Olson if if Iowa goes in
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  and and picks them off and what have they been doing after all
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  of their workouts? They do 42 push ups. 42 push ups
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  because mandatory Iowa laid a 42 spot on him a year.
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  Ago So obviously this game has been circled when this when the
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  calendar came out, the schedule came out.
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  I'm not sure if there's anything in the in the locker room or not
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  countdown to the Iowa game. But it seems like this is this
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  is one of those games that they've identified, right?
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  If it doesn't go their way, what happens?
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  Do they get ahead of the posse? I don't.
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  And because what's he owed? About 30 million that I read 25
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  to. 30 I've seen all kinds of estimates out there.
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  Yeah, there's, I mean, there was one that was up to 40 and then
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  yeah, it was lower than that. But it's a lot of money.
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  Yeah. It's a ton of money and we've
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  seen plenty of teams do this before.
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  What's still in front of them. I mean this is their easiest
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  game remaining on their schedule.
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  Really. After this, they got Ohio State
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  coming in, they go to Oregon. Jesus, here comes Washington.
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  Oh boy. They go to Indiana, they got a
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  top 15 Illinois team, and then they play for the Axe.
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  And now and where is that game? In Minnesota, Oh boy.
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  It's it's when you put it like that that I was their easiest
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  game left on the schedule. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  So it's definitely one that's circled and circle the wagons
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  type of Wisconsin can stop the run and we get to Iowa who's
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  throwing the ball. It's.
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  Give me your take away from yesterday and Kirk.
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  I I think he's taking a page out of Matt Campbell's book.
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  He's been a little sneaky. He's.
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  But we've known Kurt for 27 years.
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  Sure, but I think Campbell set the bar even higher when it
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  comes to those things. I think, I mean think it's Hank
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  Brown. I think it's Hank Brown.
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  You do, I do. I thought that until 145
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  yesterday. And then you came away thinking
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  it is Gronowski. That there was something that
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  happened in practice, seeing him just listening to Kirk, because
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  yes, Kirk can be coy, Yep. But he is not somebody that
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  lies. He is not somebody that he will,
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  yes, not give you all the information, but he's not going
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  to lie to you. And just hearing him talk about
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  Gornowski, I think he was surprised of how close to a
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  return he was at practice on Tuesday.
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  I hope you're 1000% right. I don't like, I like Hank Brown
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  next year, like Mark Gronowski this year.
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  But Mark Gronowski at 100%. Well, that's just.
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  It a limited Mark Gronowski that whose legs are a weapon.
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  Without that, that's true. Would you rather have pocket
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  passer Mark Gronowski or the full package of Hank Brown?
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  The answer might be closer than you think.
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  Well, and and it might be because I think last, the last
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  time we saw Hank Brown was kind of unfair, you know, getting
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  thrown in the way he did and not having the preparation and all
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  the snaps with the ones, although I'm not sure he's
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  getting those now because it with Klinsky showing up at the
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  depth chart. I don't know how they're
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  splitting the reps leading up to this game, and we won't give
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  that. See, I don't know if the Big 10
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  will ever get to where the Big 12 is at or I don't know if the
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  Big 12 will continue with their Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Saturday availability reports that we get.
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  I think it's more likely that the Big 12 decides, you know
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  what, I think the Big 10's got it right.
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  We're just going to do it 90 minutes before the game.
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  But this is one of those those instances where I would love to
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  know, I would love the Big 10 to follow suit when it comes to
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  this. So would you put it 60407030
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  Kornowski? I learn more Kornowski that he's
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  going to 8020. Probably not that high, but
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  yeah, I think you're 6040 is fair.
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  Short leash though, if indeed he can't run and he does look like
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  he's hobbling around. Yeah, definitely.
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  I the way that I read into it is further along now we have to see
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  because also reading between the lines as you have to do with
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  Kirk, I think this was probably the most that he did actually on
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  the football field as opposed to just rehabbing as he did all
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  week long. Kirk mentioned that, but how
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  does he wake up today? Now?
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  How did practice go now today after maybe pushing it for the
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  first time, doing some things that opened up the coaches that
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  hey, maybe he can go now. How does he feel a day after
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  that? I think it's still incredibly
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  touch and go, but certainly I mean I had it 8020 that it was
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  going to be Hank Brown as opposed to today where I think
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  it's flipped and I think Gronowski if I had a betting
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  betting board right now, Gronowski be the betting
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  favorite to get this started more.
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  Likely to start for the respective school on Saturday,
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  Gronowski or John Metir with Oklahoma.
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  I think there's no way in hell he's playing.
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  Hand surgery on a 17 days ago. Couple it with how this
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  information came out and we hear it a lot.
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  Wants to play when a national reporter reports something like
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  all the all the beat guys got beat again.
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  Sometimes there's a reason for that if Mateer was really close
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  to being back. Wasn't the report he wants to
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  play? Wants to play, of course.
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  He wants to play. He's sexist.
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  Coupled with the way the report came out this early in the week,
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  this is not. No, he's not playing.
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  Oklahoma wanted this out. Oklahoma wanted Texas to have to
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  prepare for both quarterbacks. That's how I read into this.
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  Speaking of Oklahoma, so koi flip game this weekend material,
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  no material. It's a coin flip game.
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  Texas has their I. Kind of give Oklahoma a light, a
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  slight edge, Trent. Well, and we also know in this
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  game what you think is going to happen the opposite usually
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  that's true. I mean that's that's been this
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  series for the most part of the best last 30 years.
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  Is it just gone the opposite way?
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  But also Oklahoma right now is basically a pick em to make the
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  College Football Playoff to make the College Football Playoff.
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  Oklahoma with Metir which we have.
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  No, even if they beat Texas this week, then they go to South
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  Carolina who's struggling? It's still a roadie.
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  Yep, they have Ole Miss coming in.
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  They're unbeaten. They go to Tennessee, then they
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  go to Alabama. Oh God, they still have
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  Missouri. Who?
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  Who? Knows they're unbeaten as of
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  today. And they wrap up against LSU.
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  You think Oklahoma's getting the College Football Playoff?
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  And even are they playing for a big for an SEC Championship?
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  No, that that team has at least three losses.
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  But find a team that has an easy path in the SEC Texas, I
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  challenge you. Texas, it's the Longhorns.
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  I find 2. Then give me Texas.
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  I don't know Texas is off the top of my head.
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  Oh, you. OK.
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  Kentucky. No Mississippi State.
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  Better, but they'll win. Home for Vandy?
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  Yeah, Now they go to Georgia. OK.
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  They get Arkansas. That's a win.
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  And then A. And M.
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  And that's for an SEC schedule. That's as easy as it gets.
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  Look at Alabama. Yeah, that's they already have a
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  loss on their resume too. But not in conference.
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  Are we going to get to back to what we had at the end of last
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  season, arguing about 9 and three teams?
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  Yes. Who should be yes out of those
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  9? Until we expand to 16 and then
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  then food there might change again.
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  Here's one for you. If Texas Tech gets through the
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  regular season unbeaten, 12 and 12, and no, Yep, they get beat
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  by, I don't care who. They get beat by somebody.
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  Somebody beats them in Arlington.
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  In a relatively close game. Close game 2723.
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  That sounds good. That sounds good. 2721 anything
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  like that? Texas Tech one of the 12.
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  Does that mean the Big 12 gets 2?
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  Is that the best path to two teams?
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  I think it's the only path. I think it's just.
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  Two, I think it's the only path. Maybe there is a slim 211 and
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  one teams collide. Great game overtime.
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  May think you got to be 12 and only get B Trent because it
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  looks as though. Are there 2 teams, relative
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  teams in the? Can we say the same thing in the
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  ACC? But what if it comes down to a
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  10 and 2 Notre Dame as opposed to Texas?
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  Tech, the second team, the. Or even to the second team,
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  probably Notre Dame. Got that extra data point
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  though, Does that matter? But it's an L on that data point
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  and Notre Dame had won ten consecutive games in that.
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  Look, it's not in a vacuum and that's why these scenarios are
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  so difficult is because we don't know how this is going to play
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  out. And you kind of look through
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  past history, if we would have had a 12 team playoff, it's very
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  rare that actually, like we had a year ago, that there's going
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  to be a bunch of nine and three teams vying for that final spot.
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  That was a rarity. Now with major conferences,
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  bigger conferences, that's also a part that you have to put in
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  it because these teams are playing each other a whole lot
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  more. I think we're going to get to a
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  point at the end of the season where it's going to be a little
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  bit more cut and dry. There'll be arguments, no doubt,
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  but it's not going to be like it was a season ago.
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  Trying to figure out those nine and three teams.
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  South Carolina, Alabama, of course, Clemson wins to get in.
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  What did that do when SMU survived and hung on to that
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  final bit out of the ACC? So here's one for you.
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  Miami's unbeaten Georgia Tech's only losses to Georgia on the
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  final week of the regular season.
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  A non conference game they play for the ACC championship.
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  Miami and Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech wins, same as the
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  Big 12. Oh yeah, both those teams.
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  So two teams from the ACC and two teams from the Big 12.
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  Now we're getting into sticky situation, yeah.
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  Gotta put a group of five team in.
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  Memphis. It might, maybe.
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  I mean, it doesn't matter. South Florida, somebody at this
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  point. Yeah.
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  You know what they don't. North Texas and South Florida
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  play on Friday. Night they do.
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  Good God, that's a great game. Yeah, no, it really is really
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  is. I love this time of year, hate
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  this time of year, love it that we're talking about it, hate the
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  fact that we're soon going to not be talking about it.
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  But anyways, Nick Olson is coming up.
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  He covers Wisconsin. Look forward to talking to Nick.
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  Obviously, we'll get into a Mitch Holtis with the Chiefs,
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  where they're at right now as they fall on Monday night to
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  Jacksonville. What does what, where do they
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  go? I'm sure they'll be fine.
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  But boy oh boy, does it get much better in Sunday Night Football.
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  No. Not in Detroit.
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  At Kansas City. Little desperation for KC.
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  Yeah, I mean, in Detroit's looking to.
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  I mean, Detroit's Detroit. They're really good.
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  Let's get to Mike in Waterloo. I do want to spend a few minutes
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  on TJ's press conference today. It's media day for the men's
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  basketball boy. He took a couple of shots at
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  Heise. Did you, did you see that he lit
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  Heisey up a little bit, let everybody know that he was not
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  happy the way night Heisey went through the summer months.
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  But he's back at it now and think he was named a captain.
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  So obviously sounds like TJ and the staff got Heisey's
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  attention. Hello, Mike, How are you?
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  Oh well, we got beat our one game so far.
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  But you know what? I'm kind of worried about
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  Rocco's health. You know, he's taken some
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  headshots the last two weeks. You know, and I think they're
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  trying to take him out of the game, but if Mansky gets in, let
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  him throw the ball. I tell you, I've seen people
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  watch him practice when he was at Algona.
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  He can roll right and left and he throws 50 yards on a diamond.
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  You just can't. You got to take the training
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  wheels off of him because we got to win these games because like
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  I said, we're supposed to go 11 and 1, and I got that.
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  I thought we'd get beat by Colorado, but what do you guys
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  think? You got to let Mansky be Mansky.
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  Yeah. I mean, if he's going to be the
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  guy. And I agree with you, Rocco's
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  take. He's a tough Sobi.
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  Love that about Rocco back, Mike.
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  We got to move on, brother. Good to hear from you.
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  Thank you, buddy. Yep.
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  Good to good to talk to you. Let's get Jeff in here, then
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  we'll get a break. Hi, Jeff.
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  What's on your mind? Nothing much, quick.
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  I just want to say something about the Chiefs.
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  You know, I hear people on these airwaves talk about how the
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  Chiefs were back this and that. Then we talk about scheduling
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  and who people have beat, boys. They beat the lonely Giants with
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  Russell Wilson, and they'd be a Ravens team that is one in four
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  and one of the worst defenses in the league.
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  So I don't know how I don't know with a straight face.
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  Like, I understand. I watched the game against Jax.
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  Well, yeah, they should have won.
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  Well, last year they would have won that game.
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  That's a tell. They won a whole bunch of close
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  games last year. They did.
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  They did. So that's it.
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  That's a tell. Tell something.
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  You got a guy that you paid that just gave up on a play.
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  Who's the best team in the West? You've probably got to say
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  Denver right now. I say Denver right now.
• 18:00
  Now who knows what it's going to be?
• 18:02
  You know, could Kansas City back door and win the division?
• 18:05
  Yeah, they probably could because they won, I don't know,
• 18:07
  10-11 in a row. But if you ask me who's the best
• 18:10
  team right now in October, I got to say Denver.
• 18:13
  Last night. What do you want in January?
• 18:15
  Watch. Give Me the Chiefs.
• 18:16
  Denver, you're asking me who I want?
• 18:18
  Yes. Yes, until they're in Yes, I
• 18:21
  totally agree last night I'm and I'm not a big baseball guy.
• 18:23
  I'm sitting down, my girlfriend's watching the the
• 18:26
  Yankee game with me and she's like, man, you know who?
• 18:29
  How do you compare, you know, a judge to like a Derek Jeter?
• 18:34
  And it was a hard question and I'm kind of thinking about it
• 18:36
  and I just want to throw this out here.
• 18:38
  You know Jeter's at all time great, but when he came into the
• 18:41
  league, yeah, Posada maybe the second best catcher in Yankee
• 18:45
  history beside. Yogi Yale and he Munson Munson
• 18:49
  in the list. But yeah, absolutely.
• 18:51
  Yeah. And then he possibly had maybe
• 18:52
  the best closer of all time. All three of them came up
• 18:55
  together. I don't even want to go and name
• 18:58
  all the starting pitching that Jeep had around him.
• 19:01
  I can name Aunt Andy Pennant, Roger Clemens, David Cohen,
• 19:05
  David Wells. I could go.
• 19:07
  On. I think he was and so you got
• 19:12
  you got Judge and I understand and people with these weak takes
• 19:16
  about how bad of a batting average he has during the during
• 19:20
  the playoffs and how the guy doesn't step up for the post
• 19:22
  season that play that game last night, that play now he's gotten
• 19:26
  700 in this series. But that home run he hit was so
• 19:29
  electric. And that's what's great about
• 19:31
  baseball that a series can get turned a whole post season to
• 19:35
  get turned on one player of the bat and Judge, it's crazy.
• 19:39
  I don't care if they lose or not, but Judge is going to go
• 19:42
  down as one of the all time great Yankees regardless of what
• 19:45
  he does in the post season. I don't care what his stats are
• 19:48
  in the regular season. He is one of the all time
• 19:51
  Yankees. He's the captain.
• 19:52
  You guys have a good day. Thank you.
• 19:54
  Good to hear from you, Jeff, that, that that was
• 19:57
  unbelievable. Again, it was a great pitch it.
• 19:59
  Was a great pitch. How you even get a barrel on
• 20:01
  that thing? It's hard to believe.
• 20:03
  All right, take your time out. We'll come back.
• 20:05
  Nick Olson will join us. He covers Wisconsin, of course.
• 20:08
  He covered Iowa State for what, a handful of years when he he
• 20:11
  was here? But back to his alma mater.
• 20:14
  So we'll get to Nick Olson. Right now, though, let's do a
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  Holtis still to come This hour, it's the Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network coming up on 1230. Welcome back, Miller and Condon.
• 20:37
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Mitch Holtz is the voice of the
• 20:41
  Kansas City Chiefs. Still to come this hour,
• 20:43
  Wisconsin and Iowa. They collide in Madison.
• 20:47
  Camp Randall, 6:00, FS one for the TV radio down the hall from
• 20:51
  U.S. news Radio 1040, WHO? Well, used to be one of us for a
• 20:56
  while is living in the state of Iowa.
• 20:58
  Nick Olson now back in Madison covering the Badgers.
• 21:01
  It's Iowa and Wisconsin. Whenever we get an opportunity
• 21:05
  to talk to Nick, we do and away we go.
• 21:07
  Good to talk to you, old friend. How you been?
• 21:10
  Man, it's so good to hear your guys voices.
• 21:12
  I I always look forward to to these opportunities and we'll
• 21:15
  certainly have some more with the buzz around basketball.
• 21:18
  This year as well, Absolutely. Yeah.
• 21:19
  The lot of buzz around Iowa and Wisconsin seemingly always is.
• 21:22
  So, Nick, I was looking at the Wisconsin schedule and, and I
• 21:25
  get it, the big tennis changed, but Iowa and Wisconsin only have
• 21:29
  three common opponents, which is kind of hard to believe.
• 21:32
  You know, these two schools as close as they are to each other
• 21:35
  and only three common opponents. So you've seen Maryland and
• 21:38
  Michigan in conference play Course, Alabama early in the
• 21:41
  year. When when you look at this
• 21:43
  Badger, when this Badger squad, what what's the biggest issue
• 21:47
  facing them right now? Do you think Nick, if you could
• 21:50
  limit it to 1? Yeah, Ken, you know, it is a
• 21:53
  really interesting point about the schedule, by the way.
• 21:56
  But but with the Badgers, I think it's actually, you know, I
• 22:00
  say it tongue in cheek, similar to what what I was kind of
• 22:03
  struggled with at times and what Trent and I were just talking
• 22:06
  about before. I think it's simply sworn the
• 22:08
  football and consistently having the offense be able to kind of
• 22:13
  have long sustained drives or explosive plays.
• 22:17
  I think that obviously a part of that has been this horrible QB
• 22:21
  luck in terms of injury. They just, they've had a real
• 22:24
  hard time, you know, having these starting quarterbacks stay
• 22:27
  healthy, which is unfortunate, fortunate for them as well As
• 22:30
  for the offense. The Badgers recently made a
• 22:33
  change. So I was up there in Ann Arbor
• 22:35
  and they started a new quarterback, which I'm sure
• 22:37
  we'll get into Hunter Simmons. And early on, I would say that
• 22:40
  first, certainly the first couple drives, maybe most of the
• 22:43
  first half, they showed some better signs.
• 22:46
  The offensive line looked good against a good Michigan front.
• 22:49
  They were running the football. They scored a quick touchdown
• 22:52
  and had the early lead. But just kind of that
• 22:54
  consistency, I think has left an improved defense on the field
• 22:59
  for a long time. And, you know, obviously these
• 23:01
  guys are humans and the more that they're out there that the
• 23:04
  more fatigue they get. So I, I just think it's been a
• 23:06
  little bit tougher than on the defense all told, Ken.
• 23:10
  Take us into that quarterback situation.
• 23:12
  Billy Edwards, the anticipated starters been banged up, went in
• 23:15
  for a drive and didn't and didn't look like he was
• 23:19
  certainly 100% Hunter Simmons, the SIU transfer out there as
• 23:22
  well. What do you expect to see on
• 23:24
  Saturday against the Hawks? Yeah, Translate.
• 23:27
  It's been a really interesting group like you.
• 23:29
  Like you kind of said, all these guys are new to the program this
• 23:32
  year. Edwards, I really feel for him.
• 23:35
  I mean he done everything right. Just kind of can't seem to shake
• 23:39
  this, you know, still working towards this or Danny O'Neill
• 23:42
  for a while, who I think came onto the scene and did really,
• 23:45
  really well, especially against Middle Tennessee.
• 23:47
  He actually set some record numbers for a first time Badger
• 23:51
  starter in his first game. He impresses with his mobility,
• 23:55
  but then really kind of had a hard time against Maryland and
• 23:59
  Hunter Simmons. How I would describe the guys,
• 24:01
  especially to you know, maybe a group that you obviously can't
• 24:04
  watch every drive right. You're busy with other teams
• 24:06
  too. So I'd say he's got a higher
• 24:09
  floor, if that makes sense. He's been around.
• 24:11
  He's like 2223 years old grad transfer type of guy.
• 24:15
  You know, he's got a good arm, decent size.
• 24:18
  I think he's got a pretty good accurate ball and can read
• 24:22
  things quickly, just maybe isn't as mobile.
• 24:24
  He did have an interception against Michigan, but there's a
• 24:27
  pretty rough pass interference on that.
• 24:29
  So I think out of O'Neill and Simmons, Simmons seems to be
• 24:33
  trending well to be that next guy.
• 24:35
  Again, you got to monitor Edwards, but we haven't heard
• 24:37
  anything at least late that would kind of imply he will be
• 24:40
  back and starting on Saturday. Nick the Maryland game and I get
• 24:45
  it. It's Maryland and Wisconsin
• 24:47
  should beat Maryland. Everybody should beat Maryland.
• 24:49
  Maryland. They don't people don't realize
• 24:51
  that you know they're a decent program.
• 24:53
  I like the quarterback Washington, right?
• 24:55
  He's a he's a good player. But my point being and you were
• 25:00
  there. I did not see very much of the
• 25:02
  game, if at all. I can't remember what I was
• 25:04
  watching, but regardless, the fire fickle chance apparently
• 25:08
  were being we were echoing throughout the stadium.
• 25:11
  You know how message boards are, you know, Twitter or is the fan
• 25:14
  base when the team gets beat, that's what they do, right?
• 25:17
  That's where they take out their anxiety.
• 25:20
  So is there anything to this? If if Iowa goes in and they've
• 25:23
  been doing the 42 push ups and seemingly this game's been
• 25:26
  circled on the schedule, if I will beat them.
• 25:29
  And I think Fickle's got somewhere between 25 and 30
• 25:32
  million in a bio. Is that is that real?
• 25:35
  I mean, is there a chance that the fickle might not make this
• 25:38
  season or is that just message board fodder?
• 25:42
  Yeah, Ken, it's, it's a good question my friend.
• 25:44
  I will say that, you know, like you said, it kind of just it
• 25:48
  started randomly kind of just in one section.
• 25:51
  And, and I do think it was just mostly kind of those similar
• 25:54
  types of people and maybe some frustrated message aboard folks
• 25:57
  or even kind of some of the students at one point it was
• 26:00
  directed from look, I, I don't mean to kind of fully defend,
• 26:05
  right? It's a little opinion and a
• 26:06
  little bit about what I believe is the case that obviously
• 26:10
  things haven't been perfect these last couple of seasons.
• 26:14
  I will go back to some of that injury luck.
• 26:16
  I think he's had the worst UV injury luck in the nation in the
• 26:20
  last couple years and obviously the toughest schedule in the Big
• 26:23
  10 this year, maybe the country. So I don't believe there should
• 26:26
  be a move. Now that that said, from what
• 26:29
  we've kind of, you know, gathered heard the buyout
• 26:31
  numbers, I would be pretty surprised, Ken, if a move was
• 26:36
  made regardless of how this game goes.
• 26:39
  You know, you mentioned the buyout, I mentioned the
• 26:41
  schedule. There are still some positives
• 26:43
  if if you're really looking and paying attention in terms of
• 26:46
  recruiting, having come up some of the young talent coming in.
• 26:50
  But obviously we we know and understand the importance of
• 26:53
  winning game. So that that's kind of my long
• 26:56
  way to answer it. But I will kind of add, as you
• 26:58
  mentioned, watching the push ups can speaking with Pickle this
• 27:01
  week, speaking with the players and I'll continue to have more
• 27:04
  on that this week. This game is vastly, vastly
• 27:08
  important. Like I said, I've watched some
• 27:10
  Iowa. I think that they've been a
• 27:11
  pretty good football team, probably could be 3 plays away
• 27:15
  from five. And oh, and I know that the
• 27:17
  Badgers have really struggled. So I think it's going to come
• 27:20
  down to, you know, can you just out Iowa, Iowa, right, because
• 27:24
  it's a low points total. But just knowing all of that,
• 27:29
  these guys know it's a must win. It's as close to a must win in
• 27:33
  early October as you will ever hear me say.
• 27:35
  Guys and the players, I would really say that themselves.
• 27:39
  Nick, what kind of environment do you expect to see?
• 27:42
  I know this is a fan base very fractured in general.
• 27:45
  The student section usually shows up late.
• 27:47
  Who knows if they're even going to get in the building for this
• 27:49
  one. With a late kickoff at 6:00,
• 27:52
  what do you anticipate the environments going to be?
• 27:54
  Doesn't feel like it's going to be a standard Camp Randall
• 27:56
  environment. Yeah, That is, you know, trend.
• 27:59
  That's something that fans have been talking about on my message
• 28:02
  boards a little bit as well this week.
• 28:04
  So obviously, things were, you know, fractured, I think the
• 28:07
  good word for it in that last home game against Maryland.
• 28:10
  But I do think there was at least a feeling of some
• 28:14
  optimism, excitement in that first half in Ann Arbor.
• 28:18
  I know that the fans on my site were feeling that way.
• 28:21
  I think there's been enough space since then, right?
• 28:24
  It's a sellout. It is a night game you don't see
• 28:27
  a ton of here as many as think a lot of programs would like.
• 28:31
  And while I appreciate the the student section joke because you
• 28:34
  know that those kids will be having fun, you know, since 8:00
• 28:38
  or 9:00 AM, I'm not saying it'll be, you know, Iowa, I'm sorry,
• 28:42
  Ohio State 2001 or 2005 when some of the top ranked teams
• 28:46
  come in. But I am actually still
• 28:48
  expecting a really good environment simply because these
• 28:52
  fans like like Hawkeyes, like Cyclones are some of the most
• 28:56
  passionate in the entire nation. And I just from my
• 29:00
  understanding, speaking with a lot of recruits, families and
• 29:03
  friends and fans and families around here, like people are
• 29:06
  still going to show up as I think they should.
• 29:08
  It's homecoming. It's a night game.
• 29:11
  And I think that last year's game left a bad taste in their
• 29:14
  mouths trying not just for the team, but a lot of these fans,
• 29:18
  you know, they don't like that being done to them from Iowa
• 29:21
  either. 42 points and in that fashion.
• 29:23
  So maybe not your classic state-of-the-art atmosphere, but
• 29:27
  I'm actually still expecting a really good one, especially from
• 29:31
  8090% of the. Family.
• 29:32
  Yeah, Awesome. What's the weather forecast,
• 29:35
  Nick? Are we good as far as no rain or
• 29:38
  anything like that Saturday, do you know?
• 29:40
  Yeah, so I definitely have been checking that throughout the
• 29:42
  week. I think it's for this time of
• 29:44
  year in Wisconsin going to be pretty good, low to mid 50, a
• 29:47
  little bit of sun, I think from one to four, two to four and
• 29:50
  then you'll get kind of that normal, you know, relaxing but
• 29:54
  brisk all night. I really think I was just saying
• 29:57
  that, you know, earlier on on my site, this is one that I'm
• 30:00
  excited to just kind of take in, right.
• 30:02
  Obviously we'll be writing the stories, but just with a lot of
• 30:05
  these storylines from some of the tough couple weeks, Iowa's
• 30:08
  tough losses, bye weeks, the QB situation, It could be some ugly
• 30:13
  football, it could be a lot of defense and maybe some forcing
• 30:17
  turnovers. But I really can't wait to watch
• 30:19
  this one. Guys up and can't.
• 30:20
  I'm with you last thing, Nicholson joining us, what kind
• 30:25
  of year basketball wise? I think Iowa and Wisconsin, at
• 30:29
  least from a betting perspective, they're both about
• 30:31
  25 to one kind in the middle of the pack 789 range.
• 30:37
  Is it a single play or a double play against Iowa, Wisconsin?
• 30:40
  Do you know, Trent? Do you know?
• 30:42
  I think it's a single. Single this year, yeah.
• 30:45
  What kind of year, what kind of squads, guard going to have?
• 30:48
  A good one. You know, guys, I told you I
• 30:50
  remember we talked last year and we were a little bit ahead of
• 30:52
  the curve, but in Kanje and how the team was, this team won't be
• 30:57
  talked about quite as much as you said, 6789.
• 31:01
  I've got him as at least top five team in the conference.
• 31:04
  Some of the best star powered John Blackwell named to all big
• 31:07
  time just like then it starts down there.
• 31:10
  I think this transfer class is going to impress some people as
• 31:13
  well as some of these young guys.
• 31:14
  So I personally have this group, you know, bonafide tournament
• 31:18
  team, the potential with guard at the helm and how old they are
• 31:22
  to maybe get to that second weekend guys.
• 31:24
  Good stuff, Nick Olson. Appreciate it.
• 31:26
  Nick, give your sight a plug for me, would you?
• 31:29
  Yeah, thank you so much, Badger 247 and great timing. 50% off
• 31:33
  promo for any Badger fans down there or anybody that you'll
• 31:36
  remember some of my work the last day today, guys, always
• 31:40
  truly a pleasure to hear your voices.
• 31:41
  Miss you guys. You're a good man, Nick Olson.
• 31:43
  Thank you, buddy. Good to talk to you.
• 31:44
  Talk to you in February, Nick Olson on Wisconsin.
• 31:48
  We'll take a time out. Mitch Holtis joins us next.
• 31:50
  Voice of the Kansas City Chiefs, Miller and Condon on the Iowa
• 31:53
  Sports Radio Network. Hi, Millory.
• 31:56
  Condon, welcome back. Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 31:58
  Papa John's wrote the state of Iowa course headquartered here
• 32:01
  in Johnston. They sponsor this weekly segment
• 32:04
  with the exception of the Chiefs bye week, which is coming up, I
• 32:07
  think, early November. And what a gauntlet they've got
• 32:10
  before they get to it. Mitch Holtis is the radio voice
• 32:13
  of those Kansas City Chiefs and he joins us.
• 32:16
  Hello Mitch, Trent and Ken, how were you?
• 32:17
  Boy, that gauntlet starts on Sunday night with the Lions
• 32:21
  coming actually start on Monday night going to Jacksonville as
• 32:23
  we know, but Lions Chiefs on Sunday Night Football.
• 32:26
  My gosh, how big a game is this going to be from a fans
• 32:29
  perspective? Yikes.
• 32:31
  Yeah, no, enormous. And there's a lot of Eagles fans
• 32:36
  that are listening. Probably if the Lions don't have
• 32:38
  their defensive injuries a year ago, that's who we're playing in
• 32:42
  Super Bowl 59 because they were steamrolling towards that at 15
• 32:45
  and two. Now here just just puts this in
• 32:47
  perspective. All three phases are excellent
• 32:49
  for them, Ken for the Lions, but they've averaged now roughly 35
• 32:55
  points a game for two years in a row.
• 32:57
  If they would hold that up throughout the year, they would
• 33:00
  be the best scoring back-to-back team since the 194142 Chicago
• 33:05
  Bears of like Sid Luckman or whatever.
• 33:07
  So and then defensively, they're not injured except for the
• 33:12
  corners and they just, they got it all, man.
• 33:14
  They and their special teams are great.
• 33:16
  Khalif Raymond, good returner, their place kickers good Jack
• 33:20
  Jake Bates, the old brick salesman.
• 33:23
  And then Jack Fox is arguably the best punter in the league.
• 33:26
  They they have it all and this team is rolling.
• 33:29
  It's going to be hard to beat him.
• 33:32
  Back on Monday and just an odd game mentioned after the game,
• 33:36
  Chiefs out gained by nearly 200 yards, but a pick six.
• 33:40
  There was a lot that would have, should have, could have, but
• 33:42
  ultimately didn't happen. Doesn't feel different this
• 33:45
  year. I mean, these are the games that
• 33:47
  in the past Kansas City has won and it didn't happen again in
• 33:50
  this one. Does does something just feel a
• 33:52
  little bit different this year with this year's squad?
• 33:56
  I might have told you that after week two against Philly, but I'm
• 34:01
  not trying to say that now there's too many things that are
• 34:03
  coming to start to snap together now.
• 34:05
  It sounds odd saying that after a 3128 loss in a game that the
• 34:09
  Chiefs yes, should have, could have, would have won and all
• 34:12
  three phases had moments that was really good and then all
• 34:15
  three phases had moments where they were really bad.
• 34:18
  Offensively, you're just South of 500 yards and you put
• 34:21
  together now success 3 or straight weeks of good offensive
• 34:24
  ball, but you don't do anything on possession 4 possession 523
• 34:28
  and outs where which you seized the game there.
• 34:32
  That's the back-to-back possessions you get by winning
• 34:34
  the toss and that led to the pick 6.
• 34:36
  The pick 6 is the most glorious glaring thing defensively.
• 34:42
  You get 3 sacks on a team that had only given up 3 sacks all
• 34:46
  year and yet you and you get 2 takeaways and yet you make
• 34:51
  Trevor Lawrence look like Michael Vick.
• 34:53
  OK. And then then on special teams,
• 34:56
  you get the best punning performance by Matt Ariza yet in
• 35:00
  his career. And yet you have 4 special teams
• 35:03
  penalties in the second-half and you almost allow a kick return
• 35:07
  on the return before the kick out of bounds, which actually,
• 35:10
  in my opinion, led to the kick out of bounds.
• 35:12
  But still, it was moments of plus, plus and then negative,
• 35:16
  negative, negative. And in this day and age in the
• 35:18
  NFL, that's enough to push over the Cliff and lose the game.
• 35:21
  What? Maybe one of the plays that
• 35:23
  struck me a well, I I think there was a no look pass that
• 35:26
  got picked off in return. We've never seen that very
• 35:29
  seldom. Obviously I want to go back to
• 35:31
  the touchdown that was originally there was a flag on
• 35:33
  the the play from the 2 yard line where the officials thought
• 35:37
  that there was offensive pass interference of pick play and
• 35:40
  home. Mahomes and a couple of other
• 35:42
  receivers both put up one finger, ran to the officials.
• 35:45
  It was the right call. I mean, not the flag that the
• 35:49
  Chiefs players were absolutely right.
• 35:51
  They absolutely knew what they were doing by not going past the
• 35:54
  one yard and the flag was picked up.
• 35:57
  I thought that was AI mean. Obviously they they all knew in
• 36:01
  the back of their mind what they couldn't do and that's go past
• 36:03
  that one yard and they didn't. Well, and it's Juju Smith
• 36:07
  Schuster and I told, I told you guys use the door hinge, but at
• 36:10
  1 yard or less you can set up and that's where he said it.
• 36:14
  So every team does it, your Broncos do it.
• 36:17
  And that's a great win at Philly, by the way.
• 36:19
  But the point is everybody does it, every team does it, but
• 36:21
  you've got to do it within that one yard grace zone.
• 36:25
  And that's what the Chiefs did. So yeah, to know the rule and
• 36:28
  basically talk the officials out of the call was the right thing
• 36:32
  to do. That interception on the 99 yard
• 36:34
  return though is really something you got to give the
• 36:36
  Jags credit for because we always talk about offensive
• 36:39
  coaches. I don't care if you're the Des
• 36:40
  Moines Christian defenders or Iowa State, offensive coaches
• 36:44
  will save a play, right? I need to play right now and
• 36:47
  I'll pull it out of my pocket. Well, defensive coaches do that
• 36:50
  too. They had not run that coverage
• 36:53
  all year long and Devin Lloyd did a great job.
• 36:56
  And where there was no look or look, I can't really tell.
• 36:59
  And even reviewing the video, but the point is the Jaguars did
• 37:02
  an excellent job of taking all right, here's what he thinks it
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  is. Here's what it's really going to
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  be. And we think he we know where
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  he's going to go with the football.
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  So not I mean, let's give the defense credit there.
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  They had won the bookmark to use at just the right time and they
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  turn it into a gigantic play and.
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  What are your Devon Lloyd's having?
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  No, absolutely. What 4th interception of the
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  season? He's been tremendous early on
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  by. The way he leads the league.
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  Yeah. Absolutely incredible the
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  penalties. Listen to Andy Reid afterwards.
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  He was frustrated, 13 penalties and mentioned one that wasn't
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  called a penalty. A lot of frustration there.
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  Well, you know what you're going to get on the outside with
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  Taylor, He's going to get penalties, but sloppy the
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  penalties. I'm going to guess that Andy
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  Reid. That's been a point of
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  conversation this week in practice.
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  Well, in Mount Vernon, IA gets involved in this discussion
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  because that's the hometown of Jack Cochrane.
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  And Jack's got 2 Super Bowl rings with us, but he got kind
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  of overpowered on quick returns and got called for holding
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  twice. The first one is one of those
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  you're going, what is that? And then the second one, you
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  know, may be compensating for the first, but those are
• 38:07
  devastating penalties on kick returns because it backs you up
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  and you're, it's where the penalty occurs.
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  And there was one return I was just watching with Lucas Boyd
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  and Joe Helder and the mini sub here and that you're going to
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  have the ball to 35 of the Jaguars.
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  Let me give you another one. Everybody's forgotten about.
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  And to me, I think it was a turning point in the game.
• 38:30
  The Chiefs are in control of this game at 14 to nothing.
• 38:33
  They have the Jags. And yes, it's second quarter and
• 38:35
  it's early, mid second. They've got them third and 15,
• 38:39
  and the Jags run around at 11 yards, not even going to get a
• 38:42
  first down, and the Chiefs get called for DPI.
• 38:46
  Well, that's a penalty you can't have.
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  They got to get 15 yards to get a first down.
• 38:50
  You just gave them an automatic first down.
• 38:52
  And so that penalty was, you know, you can call it sloppy or
• 38:55
  technique or whatever, but still, that one's devastating.
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  You're going to get the ball in good field position and maybe
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  make it 21 to nothing and change the entire evening.
• 39:04
  So every play matters. Every quarter of this league's
• 39:06
  too tight. And so, yeah, that's all that
• 39:09
  all three phases had their issues and penalty was.
• 39:11
  Speaking of changing the entire evening, let's do that with our
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  friends at Papa John's for those folks who still don't have
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  dinner plans or weekend plans for football.
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  Or even lunch plan. Pull this off.
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  Oh yeah. Take a nap about 4:00.
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  That's OK, yes. And this one topping pizza they
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  got for 199 New York style is just, you know, it's taken the
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  world by storm. So I mean, the New York teams
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  may not be very good. They have one win, I think, but
• 39:37
  the pizzas good that the Papa John's pizza is the best.
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  So papajohns.com, the Donaldsons are so great for the state of
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  Iowa, their locations all across the state.
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  So yeah, check it out and change your evening for sure.
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  Indeed. Thank you, Bud.
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  We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Mitch.
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  See. Yeah, see you guys.
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  Yep. Take care, 799 for that pizza.
• 39:55
  Yeah, what a spot. Sunday Night Football.
• 39:58
  Two and four with a loss, yeah. And by the way, you can hear
• 40:00
  that game here if you're not in front of your TV, if you're
• 40:02
  driving around and you're in the central Iowa area.
• 40:04
  Westwood One one O 6.3 KX&O. Two and four with a loss.
• 40:10
  Short week, Could it be? Yeah, but it's not over.
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  But have you seen the schedule? Oh, you're dancing on the grave
• 40:17
  again. A little.
• 40:19
  Premature. They played the Raiders and then
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  the next three commanders at Bills, at Bronco Colts.
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  Yikes. Sounds like 3 and one no hour 2
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  coming up. Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network.