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138. Being a model sucks. (Smile for the Camera) · The Book-Watchers

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  Speaker 1: Neonic Void Productions presents... Welcome to Book Watchers! I am
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  Speaker 1: one of your hosts, Devin, and today I'm joined with
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  Speaker 1: Go listen to that shit. Today is an episode. It's
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  Speaker 1: one of my episodes today. It's been a minute since
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  Speaker 1: I did an episode. So today, this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a comic book episode. I normally, I didn't, let
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  Speaker 1: me rephrase that. I don't do, I mean, I do
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I do, I do do some do-do. I
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  Speaker 1: do some comic book, do-do, comic book episodes, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: very particular on that since I'm like, if I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about comics, I'll just bring back my other
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  Speaker 1: podcast on that. But This one I chose in particular
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  Speaker 1: because I love this franchise so fucking much. And I've
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  Speaker 1: done episodes on this franchise for Spook. The Smile series,
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  Speaker 1: Smile 1 and Smile 2. Smile 2 being one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite movies, period. It's so good. This is Smile
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  Speaker 1: for the Camera. This is a comic book series that
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  Speaker 1: was released this year in 2026. odds giving year 2026
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  Speaker 1: and this takes place 20 years before the events of
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  Speaker 1: the first movie so ladies and gents if you love
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  Speaker 1: the smile franchise girl go hunt down this comic series
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  Speaker 1: five issues it's great getting into the plot spoilers ahead
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  Speaker 1: uh spoilers ahead t um trigger warnings of self of
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  Speaker 1: self-harm suicide all that all that dark stuff is in
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  Speaker 1: this so just trigger warnings So we start up in
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  Speaker 1: February 2005 as a plane is coming into New York
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  Speaker 1: City to begin of Fashion Month. Now, with the agency
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  Speaker 1: known as Surface, upon arrival, you meet a character named Cami.
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  Speaker 1: She's a Brazilian model, and she's flying in on a
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  Speaker 1: plane to New York City during Fashion Month. As the
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  Speaker 1: plan lands, she looks out her window. It witnesses a man,
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  Speaker 1: one of the workers on the ground workers on at
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  Speaker 1: the airport. Give her a creepy smile as he throws
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  Speaker 1: himself into a, into the engine, the jet engine of
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  Speaker 1: the plane. Yeah. She looks over and he just gives
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  Speaker 1: her a creepy little smile. And then he just jumped
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  Speaker 1: into the jet engine and. basically becomes ground beef. She's
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  Speaker 1: just like, what the fuck shooketh. And that's how it begins.
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  Speaker 1: So Kimmy, then after dealing with the incident of somebody
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  Speaker 1: offing themselves like that, she joins the group of other
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  Speaker 1: aspiring models, Ivy, Noah, uh, Frigia, and then Lena at
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  Speaker 1: a hotel under the management of the demanding man known
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  Speaker 1: as Mr. Purple, uh, Some old fat guy wearing a
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  Speaker 1: purple suit who basically runs these women like they're a
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  Speaker 1: product and they're making him money. Of course, this is
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  Speaker 1: the fashion industry back in the early 2000s, late 90s
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  Speaker 1: with the fashion models and runways and all that. So
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  Speaker 1: when Mr. Purple, while the group prepares for the high
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  Speaker 1: pressure glam war of casting calls and parties, trying to
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  Speaker 1: get gigs for their, uh, for surface, which is their
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  Speaker 1: modeling agency came begins to experience terrifying hallucinations. She is
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  Speaker 1: taunted by a smiling wrinkly elderly woman who tells her
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  Speaker 1: tick tock old yeller, which is so weird. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: why you got to call her old yeller though? She's
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  Speaker 1: like a 20 something. She's a 28 year old woman.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to call her old yeller.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess in the modeling industry, like if you're
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  Speaker 2: over a certain age, you're considered ancient. Like once you're
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  Speaker 2: like 20, that's it. You're done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's like 28. I think once you get over like 25,
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  Speaker 1: I think 30 is like the cutoff time of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're basically too old. And now that I remember, now
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  Speaker 1: that you bring that up, I think that's, that's part
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  Speaker 1: of the reason why they call her old yeller. Cause
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  Speaker 1: she's on like, she's towards the end of her journey,
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  Speaker 1: her modeling journey, as far as the industry is concerned,
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  Speaker 1: because she'd be too old and wrinkly and gashly. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, great. This really captures the fashion industry
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  Speaker 1: during this time. So as she comes across as weird
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  Speaker 1: elderly woman, she later sees a decayed, melty version of
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  Speaker 1: herself in the bathroom mirror.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She starts having erratic behavior, including a unprovoked physical altercation
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  Speaker 1: with a man at a penthouse party, which leads her
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  Speaker 1: peers to believe she is using drugs or she's going
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  Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Which, I mean, if you've seen any of
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  Speaker 1: the Smile films, you already know what's happening. The Smile
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  Speaker 1: entity is like, hey, I'm going to haunt you until
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  Speaker 1: you fucking off yourself. And this is a prequel, so
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  Speaker 1: he has not gotten the stadium full of people energy yet.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still waiting to see what they do with that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're making a third one. It's coming out, I think,
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  Speaker 1: next year. I hope. But it's happening, and I'm so excited. Because, again,
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  Speaker 1: that movie slaps. I love the small franchise. It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: It's given me that cosmic horror itch. Because it's not abruptly,
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  Speaker 1: in your face, cosmic horror. But the thing is, it's Eldridge. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So.
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  Speaker 1: Cammy's going crazy. All the girls think she's on drugs
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  Speaker 1: or some shit. While the newcomer Ivy, who joined the
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  Speaker 1: agency to pay off student loans, navigates the predatory nature
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  Speaker 1: of the industry. So she kind of becomes the main character. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Ivy does. And you kind of see the predatory nature
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  Speaker 1: of the fashion industry during this time period. Mr. Pearl
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  Speaker 1: pressures her to have a meeting with a world-renowned photographer,
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  Speaker 1: abusive photographer named Percy Rickens. Who's fixated on Alice in
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  Speaker 1: Wonderland for some reason. And Ivy narrowly escapes a physical
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  Speaker 1: altercation with him by pouring hot kettle, a hot kettle
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  Speaker 1: of tea on him before fleeing his apartment because he
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  Speaker 1: tried to, um, yeah, pretty much, pretty much. He's, he's
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  Speaker 1: a scumbag and they let him basically do all this
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  Speaker 1: shit because he is a fabulous photographer. His stuff makes money.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why they keep him around. So he gets
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  Speaker 1: away with a lot of crap. So starting off, uh,
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  Speaker 1: after that, the New York leg of the tour happens.
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  Speaker 1: And for casting sessions where designer named, I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: going to try and pronounce that guy's name. Some designers
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  Speaker 1: looking out singles out Cammy and designer claim that she,
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  Speaker 1: that she could smell death all over Cammy, which is
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  Speaker 1: the model from the beginning. And, um, uh, marks her
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  Speaker 1: as one of the dead ones. You're like, Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's weird. Prompting can be a slapper in the, in
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  Speaker 1: a moment of panic shortly before the agency is set
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  Speaker 1: to leave London. So all that happens and you, it's
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  Speaker 1: one of those things where you're like, is she hallucinating it?
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  Speaker 1: Or is she actually being told that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, yeah, she slapped the shit out of the woman,
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  Speaker 1: which I mean, you know, if she was telling her that,
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  Speaker 1: get it. Smack that bitch. That's rude. That's rude as fuck.
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  Speaker 2: It would be very hard not to smack a bitch
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  Speaker 2: if they're saying shit like that to you.
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  Speaker 1: That's unhinged as fuck. So yeah, I don't blame her
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  Speaker 1: for smacking the shit out of somebody. So later on,
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  Speaker 1: as they get ready to leave for London, one of
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  Speaker 1: the other girls discovers Cammy's dead body in their room.
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  Speaker 1: Basically what had happened was she took a hook and
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  Speaker 1: lodged it down her throat. Yeah. So Freya found Cammy.
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  Speaker 1: Cammy now passed it on to Freya. Yeah. Now Freya
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  Speaker 1: has been cursed by the smile entity. So because Freya
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  Speaker 1: is the only one that went to the aftermath of
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  Speaker 1: the death, the curse is now moved on to her.
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  Speaker 1: After Cammy's death, Freya is trying to hide her fear,
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  Speaker 1: biting through her nails while Purple covers the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: up with the excuse of this happens to models all
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  Speaker 1: the time and prepares them for the London shoot. Because
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  Speaker 1: obviously one girl dies. Oh, she just stressed. She was
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  Speaker 1: just stressed. So she just took her own life. It's
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  Speaker 1: no big deal. It happens. I'm sorry, what?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very, like, late 90s, early 2000s.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very much like, we only care about money.
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  Speaker 1: If someone dies, oh, fucking well. We gotta make that money, though. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we still gotta make that money.
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  Speaker 1: Mr. Purple gets his knuppets in the end, don't you worry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That man gets his knuppets. So, covering up the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: gets everyone on the flight to London, and on the plane,
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  Speaker 1: Freya starts to experience hallucinations of her friend, dead... the
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  Speaker 1: cammy dead smiling at her and at the hotel ivy
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  Speaker 1: gets a letter from percy the photographer basically and it
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  Speaker 1: she gets a letter from him and it disgusts her
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  Speaker 1: and she's just like i don't want to deal with
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  Speaker 1: him but apparently she uh percy really likes ivy you're
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  Speaker 1: just like that's gross so as the hallucinations start to
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  Speaker 1: grow more real with freya Ivy is forced to attend
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  Speaker 1: a photo shoot for Percy, who brought in live wolves.
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  Speaker 1: Brought in literal live wolves for this photo shoot. And
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  Speaker 1: Ivy meets a reporter named Alma Sue on a rooftop
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  Speaker 1: party and asks her to do research on what happened
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  Speaker 1: with Cammy and stuff. So basically, this reporter, after that
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  Speaker 1: photo shoot, which... she survived the wolves and attacker, but
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  Speaker 1: she served content pussy. And that's where this whole relationship
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  Speaker 1: between Ivy and Percy kickoff, even though they fuck, even
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  Speaker 1: though Ivy hates Percy, Ivy's getting some glorious shots out
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  Speaker 1: of it. And she's like, you know what? Fuck this guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I can see what the, I can see what
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  Speaker 1: the people are talking about. He makes it, he takes
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  Speaker 1: some good, good, some good shots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She gets some recognition from working with him. She meets
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  Speaker 1: up with this reporter who asks her to do some
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  Speaker 1: research on the death of Cammy. Purple interrupts through saying
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  Speaker 1: that they need to leave and get ready for the catwalk.
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  Speaker 1: Freya grabs a man. So on the catwalk, Freya grabs
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  Speaker 1: a man smiling at him. smiling at her, showing the
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  Speaker 1: hallucination as growing worse as time goes on. She starts
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  Speaker 1: attacking people in the audience, and she has a freakout
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  Speaker 1: on stage. On the catalog. And you're like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is not... She's gonna go, guys. It's her time. So
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  Speaker 1: Freya at the hotel describes the events of Cammie's death
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  Speaker 1: and how she seemed horrified, then choked, And then just
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  Speaker 1: started smiling and she started choking and then she stopped,
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  Speaker 1: started smiling and grabbed a sharp closing hanger. This is
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  Speaker 1: what happened with, and when she found Kimmy, she went
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  Speaker 1: to the hotel room, Kimmy was choking and then she
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  Speaker 1: just stopped, looked up with a creepy smile. Cause you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they do before they kill themselves, grabs a
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  Speaker 1: clothes hanger and gouges out her throat. So yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what happened. And you, in the comic shows, the comic
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  Speaker 1: shows you the view, Cammy's view as it happens. And
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  Speaker 1: while there, while she's explaining this, cause she did, she
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  Speaker 1: didn't tell any of the girls what happened until now. Uh, purple, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Pearl barges in saying that they booked the biggest party
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  Speaker 1: of the week. And even though Freya tries to get
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  Speaker 1: out of it, uh, she and the other girls are
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  Speaker 1: forced to go because connections photo shoot money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're at the party while Freya is getting makeup done.
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  Speaker 1: The makeup artist gets all smiley at her saying her
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  Speaker 1: time is almost up while the artist was drooling. Well,
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  Speaker 1: smile entity. So, uh, Freya is like, um, terrified. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: cause you would be, why would you not be right?
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  Speaker 1: So from there on the catwalk, multiple people smiling at her, tell, uh,
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  Speaker 1: telling her that that time is up. And during the party,
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  Speaker 1: the reporter approaches Ivy, trying to ask her questions to
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  Speaker 1: help her research. But Ivy rejects saying that, uh, she
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  Speaker 1: can't be seen talking about it. And that the name
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  Speaker 1: is all she's able to give because she doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: that turning back on her and getting in trouble with Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Purple because she's Basically, Mr. Purple has her under his thumb. Basically, cool,
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  Speaker 1: you make money. Now you owe us money. Because I
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  Speaker 1: made you big. You get a few gigs. But we
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  Speaker 1: pay for everything. So now you have to pay us back.
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  Speaker 1: So I got you under my thumb. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to work for me until I say otherwise. So basically,
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  Speaker 1: she got trapped in kind of like a scheme. Where, sure,
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  Speaker 1: she has a place to live, food to eat, and
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  Speaker 1: all that. But they pay for everything. So when she
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  Speaker 1: gets gigs, come to find out, oh, you don't get
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  Speaker 1: to keep that money. You're paying back the debt you owe.
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  Speaker 1: And then you make money. You got to pay that
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  Speaker 1: debt first.
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  Speaker 2: God, just tell me this right now. Does Mr. Purple
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  Speaker 2: ever just get, get smiled?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like I said, he gets his,
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  Speaker 1: he gets his knuppets. Him and Percy. They get what's
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  Speaker 1: coming to them. Mm-hmm. But before we get there, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Freya is not having a fun time at all. She
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  Speaker 1: is caught outside with Percy, but Freya gets scared when
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  Speaker 1: she sees a smiling Cammy, her dead friend in the
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  Speaker 1: distance as revealed that, uh, Percy and, uh, Percy and Freya, uh,
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  Speaker 1: was hallucinating and that the entity, um, Hits her. Hits Freya.
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  Speaker 1: She tries to escape, but biting onto its hand. And
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  Speaker 1: it turns out Freya actually attacked the real Percy and
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  Speaker 1: bit his hand and flees. She's running out. So she
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  Speaker 1: gets caught up with Percy thinking it's the Smiley Monster
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  Speaker 1: because it's smiling at her. She's hearing something totally different
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  Speaker 1: than what he's actually talking to her. She bites it
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  Speaker 1: and then runs. So... Leah, one of the other girls,
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  Speaker 1: chases after Freya.
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  Speaker 2: And....
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  Speaker 1: Though she is now smiling and holding garden tremors, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this bill garment garden tremors. She has a pair of
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  Speaker 1: those in her hand and then she uses them to
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  Speaker 1: purge and turn that killing her as now Leah or
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  Speaker 1: Lena is now cursed. So Freya smiled and, That creepy
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  Speaker 1: little smile took some pliers, took some trimmers and stabbed herself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then from there, following her death, Surface and Purple
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  Speaker 1: tried to get it all under control, trying to get
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  Speaker 1: the remaining trio of girls to Milan safely. They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to continue working you because, you know, who cares?
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  Speaker 1: Two girls died. Not that big of a deal, apparently. Um,
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  Speaker 1: at the hotel, Leah has a nightmare about a smiling bloodied, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Freya threatening her concerned. Ivy and Noah, the two last
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  Speaker 1: two girls outside of Leah wake as weight as a course.
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  Speaker 1: They're worried about her cause she wakes up screaming. He
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  Speaker 1: now wakes up screaming in the middle of the night
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  Speaker 1: after Noah puts together the pieces that two girls had
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  Speaker 1: died in the span of two weeks. Ivy's had enough
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  Speaker 1: about all this and goes to tell Purple she quits.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm done. This is fucking insane. Two people
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  Speaker 1: have killed themselves in the past two weeks. I'm done here. However,
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  Speaker 1: Purple informs her that she would have to pay him $ 15, 000
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  Speaker 1: since the agency has spent so much money on her,
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  Speaker 1: putting into her. So Ivy accepts her fate knowing that
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  Speaker 1: she will get out of her debt somehow. So basically, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: like I said earlier, she's forced to work with them
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  Speaker 1: because now she owes them money. The girls arrive from Milan,
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  Speaker 1: the last three girls, where they meet Vicky. who has
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  Speaker 1: come to take Frida's place, all while Lena seems to
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  Speaker 1: have disappeared. Three days pass. Lena is still missing, worrying
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  Speaker 1: Noah and Ivy. Outside, the reporter meets up with Ivy,
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  Speaker 1: pulling her into an alley to talk about this privately.
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  Speaker 1: The reporter says her publisher wants to.
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  Speaker 1: Make the, write the story. Now that two models are
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  Speaker 1: dead and convinces Ivy to help her. So back at
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  Speaker 1: the hotel room, Leah returns looking exhausted. And she says
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  Speaker 1: that she lost her phone in London. She explains that Ricky,
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend kicked her out since she thinks she's going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And she prays that Ivy and Noah, um, she prays
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  Speaker 1: Ivy and Noah. She is speaking to our real. So
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  Speaker 1: she's not completely sure that she's where she says she is,
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  Speaker 1: where she thinks she is. And she's like, are these people,
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  Speaker 1: are these my friends real or am I just losing it?
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  Speaker 1: So Ivy goes to the balcony and Noah joins saying
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  Speaker 1: that she's worried about her. And then of course, Ivy
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  Speaker 1: starts talking about rabies and how people, how she's like,
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  Speaker 1: what if, what if these girls are getting infected with
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  Speaker 1: rabies in some way, somehow. Yeah. That Leah's acting just
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  Speaker 1: like Freya and Cammie did before they, kill themselves. We
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  Speaker 1: jumped to, uh, the catwalk reporter tries to approach Ivy,
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  Speaker 1: but Ivy has to remain, remind her that they cannot
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  Speaker 1: be together, seen together. And as a reporter tells her
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that is see her after the after party where she
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: tries to make his move on Ivy again, like a creep.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The reporter saves Ivy and apologizes and tells her that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: her editor is waiting to meet up with her. So
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Ivy explains everything, how both models, Cammy and Freja, are
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: dead and how Surface has been helping Percy out of
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: messes for years for sexual assault cases and so on
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and so forth. And then the editor says Ivy has
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: to connect Freya to Percy and those two to surface
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: before they could continue. Cause they're trying to, cause they
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: think it's something going on with surface that they're killing
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: these girls for whatever reason. And, or Percy's killing them
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and surface is covering it up.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So, uh, I says she will need to think about it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Cause obviously she's under their thumb and she doesn't get
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: sued up the ass. And as she knows, this means
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: she will have to get closer to Percy in order
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to uncover anything. So she's just like, Oh God. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: she's gotta get real close with them, which really obviously
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: disgusts her. So later on at the hotel room, Lena,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: is being scolded by Mr. Purple for missing the catwalk,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: even though Leah keeps trying to explain that she's seeing things,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the dead Freya smiling at her, and she just needs rest.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: When Mr. Purple leaves, Ivy tries to ask her what happened,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: thinking Percy has something to do with the death. Leah
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: recalls a grinning cat. No, not a grinning. I don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: want to say grinning cat. a masquerade party um yeah
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: recalls a grinning cat and realizes it was a masquerade
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: party uh percy was wearing a sheshire cat mask and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: leah begs ivy to stop and noah scolds ivy for
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: making her uh relive all of that happened that night
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: so she starts recounting what happened with freya and how
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: she died and how she was with percy and basically
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: ivy's trying to get as much information as to give
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to the editor and the reporter to pin Percy as
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the murderer of the two girls. So, uh, from there,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the next day at the catwalk, Leah witnesses a free, uh,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: hallucination right on the catwalk and runs. And then she
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: runs off the catwalk.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: She runs. Okay.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So the next day Leah sees on the catwalk, More hallucinations.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: She freaks out, leaves. Noah chases after her, but she
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: just appears smiling. So Leah's just seeing Noah as smiling
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: at her, chasing her. She runs faster. When Noah catches
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: up to Leah, who is now smiling in the bathroom,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: she starts bashing her face into the mirror. She turns
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: to her, smiles, and then goes, boom! And glass and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: shards of everything, just blood and brains everywhere. It's gruesome.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: It's gruesome. So now there are three girls dead. Noah's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the next one. Add Noah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Huh? Can I just point something out?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And what's that?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Have you noticed that so far the story for Smile,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: all the Smile movies and so far in these comics,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: all the victims are women. All the victims are women,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: except for the very first, the second movie. In the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: second movie, she gets infected because of that dude, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: one dude who ends up killing himself in front of her.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I forgot how in the first movie, how that how
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: that one lady gets infected. It was, was it a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: guy who like ends up killing himself or was a woman?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So the, the initial killing and the first one that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: started the whole thing was a, was one for patients
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and it was a girl. Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And then like at the end of the movie, she
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: ends up infecting a guy, but then like, we don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: see what happens with him. Cause when it goes into
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the second movie, like she gets infected by another guy.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: And then she ends up infecting an entire audience of people,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: which I'm not sure how that's going to work. Cause
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: if it's like a singular entity or like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So the, the end of the first one, the guy
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: does get infected, but in the beginning of the second one,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you see how he dies. And then that moves over
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to the guy that, that sends it over to the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: pop star. Yeah. Yeah. See, so it's done to two guys,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: but most of the time it shows it's been attaching
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: itself to women mostly. Yeah. It seems. I'm excited to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: see how it plays out. Are all these people going
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to die in a horrific way? This thing is going
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to be booked and busy? I'm assuming it's going to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: get more powerful now.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: If it's just a singular demon, it can probably only
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: affect one person at a time.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: But it's not, though. Everyone was infected. It affected the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: whole fucking audience.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: They all saw it, but I noticed that it has
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to make eye contact with its next victim.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Our eyes were on it. Our eyes were on it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out. I'm just curious how it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: going to end up working out.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It's going to turn into a rings situation where everybody
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and their mother gets infected with the virus or the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: curse and they have to either... I mean.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: We're going to kind of answer the question. Cause I mean,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if you've known anything about the franchise, you kind of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: know the way to get out of it kind of,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: but in these, but in the comic, it actually blatantly
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: tells you how to get out of the case at hand.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: So continuing on, um, Noah is now possessed or cursed
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: by this thing. So Leah killed herself, blah, blah, blah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Noah's trying to remain calm, explain to Ivy that the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: girls can't handle the pressure and she won't allow herself
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to break either. So she just thinks, okay, these girls
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: are cracking under the pressure. So Purple enters saying that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: they're going to Paris early and books them both for
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a fashion show, the biggest show of the season. At
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the hotel, Ivy begs Noah to at least stop pretending
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: this is not weird. And Noah snaps saying that Ivy
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't even care about modeling and that they were not
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: her friends and how Noah's not going to waste all
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: this work that she done for years to get here.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It's by throwing her away because some three girls died
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: under pressure. My God, Nambalina, come here. Baby girl, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: am not feeding you. It is not time to be fed.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh little girl so Noah storms out and
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Ivy calls the reporter asking to chat at a cafe
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: they discuss now that there are three girls dead and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the reporter says that Leah described experiencing hallucinations like seeing
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the previous dead girls and ivy says that leah talked
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: about a guy and a shishar cat mask and says
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it had has to be percy uh since he loves
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: alice in wonderland and the reporter says that when ivy
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: gets back to new york to record percy talking about
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: surface so that they can use confession and the article
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and publish it Ivy asked to speak to the writer
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: who wrote the article about the airport suicide a few
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: weeks back that started this whole thing. And from there,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that's where they find out, oh, the guy that was
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: infected that throws himself into the jet engine says that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the pass on the curse, she either have to die
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to pass it on or kill to pass it off.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: So you either have to die to pass it on
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: or you have to kill somebody to pass it off
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to somebody else within you and things skips you. So Noah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: this is the only Ivy knows of this. So Noah hallucinates,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: hallucinations start to get worse as she hallucinates a smiling
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: man on a train, grabbing at her later. She sees
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the dead girls all smiling at her. And at the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: same night, uh, Uh, though Noah and Ivy talk and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: they make up. Ivy explains that her dad died at
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: when she was 13 and her mom didn't handle it
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: very well. So Ivy always had a, had to be
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the adult. And she explained situation that she's doing all
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: this for her mother. Cause her mother can't take care
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of herself. So she's in debt because she wants to
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: be a veterinarian, a veterinary, but in college is tough.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: On her, of course, so are the expenses. So she said,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: do this to make some money on the side. Well,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: pay the bills. So Noah says she's only got, she
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: only got mad at Ive because she has been doing
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: this since she was a toddler. So she's been an
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: all life model and she just felt scared that she
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: was going to lose her last chance, her own, her
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: last opportunity to try to make a So the next
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: day we go to a audition. Noah walks in and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is insulted by Ivy consistently and gets the gig. She's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: insulted throughout the whole thing, but Ivy gets the gigs,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: gets the gig in question, much to Noah's jealousy. So
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: basically she's in an audition and she basically gets read
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to filth on her body and stuff, which is fucking gross.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: But Ivy gets it. So Noah gets jealous at the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: after party at a party. Noah gets approached by a
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: man named Gerald who no recognizes from the fat from
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a fashion magazine, one of her personal favorite fashion magazines.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: So Gerald gets her to meet up with an interview tomorrow,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: gives her a address to go to next morning. Noah
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: wakes up from a fever dream nightmare and, And much
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: to Ivory's confusion, Noah gets ready for the interview. When
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Noah gets there, the man gets weird and asks her
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: questions on how he feels to watch younger models take
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: everything from her. And then Noah starts to leave. So
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: this whole interview gets really fucking weird. And she's like, okay, yeah, no,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking done here. So she gets up and tries
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: to leave, but the door is locked. And Gerald... The
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: man she was talking to starts smiling. And well... Yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: she says she cannot leave as she has friends waiting
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: for her. And Cammy and the other dead girls are
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: all standing right there waiting for her. Meanwhile, at the venue,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Ivy is getting dolled up and Mr. Purple is there
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to cheer Ivy on, make that money! However, Ivy... gets
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: really worried that Noah has not shown up. Ivy goes
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: outside to respond to a call from the reporter who
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: says that the person who died at the airport watched
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: his coworker commit suicide as well. So obviously there's a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: trend that's been passing along. So the reporter asks why
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Ivy needs to know this, but Ivy says that has
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to wait. She drives to where Noah is supposedly at
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: with the address that she found. And when, and cause
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: what she, cause she has buttons to be there for
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: an interview with a fashion magazine, but comes to find
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: out that fashion magazine closed years ago. The fashion magazine
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: closed like 10 years ago. So never, it's not functional
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: right now, but she's like, what the fuck? So she
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: goes to the address and well, it doesn't end well
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: for Noah. She drives to the location. Noah, she enters
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the abandoned building. Noah, smiling, says that she is right
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: on time. As she walks closer to Ivy, the floor
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: starts to break, sending Noah down. All the way down
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of the building, killing her. So now
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Ivy has the curse of what is happening now. Ivy's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: left there standing, last mile standing through this whole predicament.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And at this point, this is the fifth issue. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: she's like, okay, what the fuck am I going to do?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: So basically, Ivy devises a plan. As these hallucinations are happening,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and as she's slowly losing her mind, she devises a plan.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: So she's lastly standing, and she, of course, she also
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: knows that to... die to pass it on, kill to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: pass it off. So she gets an idea. As she
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: goes on for about, uh, about her days, she starts
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: seeing her friends dead and plans to kill Percy to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: pass it on, pass it off. So after the, after,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: so they do a shoot with a, in a fish
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: tank with a live shark, live great white shark, which
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: she survives. But, um, After the photo shoot, Percy, this
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: is when Ivy decides to, okay, I'm going to fucking
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm going to kill Percy. She dips one
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of his cigarettes into some chemicals that she got from
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: her veterinary practice. These chemicals, if ingested, will kill you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: So she dips his cigarette into it, comes in, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: waits for him to start to smoke. As he's smoking
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and she starts laughing, she looks in the mirror and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: sees the entity as her reflection. And it starts trying
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to kill her. But Percy dies. As the entity tries
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: to kill Ivy. Tries to get Ivy. Percy dies. Mr.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Purple shows up in the room. Heartbroken over his death. Like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: oh my God, what happened? And then we jumped to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the very end where the Ivy survives. And the reporter
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: comes up to her and informs her. Yeah. So we
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: published a story on Percy's death and how Mr. Purple
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: killed himself. So basically what had happened was in reality,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: she killed Percy. Mr. Purple came in. The curse went
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: to him. So he died. And the book ends with
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Ivy looking at herself on the billboard from the big
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: old billboard in the middle of Times Square. And she
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: lives the rest of her life. She's a fashion model now.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: She survived. She's one of the few people that survived.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Because the people in the first movie and the second
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: movie do not survive. So she figured it out. I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: love this series. I love it. It's so good. When
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I heard Smile was going to get comic prequels, I'm like, oh, bitch.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Give me it now. And they're making another one, too,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that comes out at the time this episode comes up.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: The second one, the second series would already be second
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: story would already be out for the first issue. It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: based around football. Yeah, that's the next one. So I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: will eventually talk about that when all the issues get
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: released for that. But yeah, that's smile for the camera
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: for you. I love the smile series so fucking much.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: it's one of my faves i love the entity i
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: love the shenanigans it causes the death scenes it's it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: so good it's so good i want more give me
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: more and i am getting i mean i am getting
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: more so But that is today's episode on Smile for
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the Camera. Please go read up. Go get those issues
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: right now. Or if you want to wait until January,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: they're going to release a tradeback of all five issues.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: It is from IDW Comics. For those of you who
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: want to look into it. It's worth your time. It's good.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: If you like the first two movies, this is good.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Some good shit. Uh, but thank you all for listening
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to today's episode and catch us next time. As we
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: talk about, as, as Jacob talks about one of his
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: other books.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: The next book we're going to definitely talk about is, um,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about pinata and I think we're
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: probably going to, we'll probably just go ahead and record
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the same, uh, below on that same session too. Cause, uh,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: below is really short, is really short. Um, it's only
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: like less than it's like only like a hundred pages long.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I think. I actually might read, I might read below
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: before we record that too. Cause I have that on
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: my Kindle as well. Okay. Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: It's a really good book. Um, yeah, it's, it's an
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: interesting book and, uh, it's a, it's the first mock
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: man story I've ever read, uh, read before. And I
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. And there's moments where you're just like, wait, what? Like,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I will say there are moments where I'm just like, uh,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: hold up a sec. Um, what's going on? Like, like, wait,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: what's that? Well, that's supposed to be the bot. Like, wait, what?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, cause there's some freaky shit that's going on. That's not, uh,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: that like that aren't actually being caused by the moth man,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: but we'll go, we'll definitely get into that when, uh,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: when we get there, but we'll be reviewing pinata first
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and then below.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So thank you all for listening to today's episode. Catch
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: us next time. As we talk about pinata until then. Bye.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Bye.