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The Siege Of Lockett Ranch · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is the siege of Locket Ranch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not 100% sure where this or who the submitter is later on in like a couple minutes here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I basically change or give this a matter of name.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We call him John, just to help with the flow of the story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a pseudonym, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then it's all written in the first hand account.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm gonna try to explain it a little bit different and not do it verbatim, read the story of verbatim, which I have actually stumbled on, kind of fucking crazy, that people are just out doing that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just wanna go to these places when I hear like siege of this, siege of Aucanian.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Probably this is fucking crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanna go there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The story is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanna be there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How we haven't already done it, I don't know, probably because I just brain-far and lose things,
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[SPEAKER_03]: we are terrible about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so here we go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The submitter says, they don't want the location of the property disclosed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be why we'd haven't been there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He goes on to tell of the dogman and what he knows about them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says his first encounter with them was when he was 12 years old.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This person and families lineage lineage goes back to 1832.
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[SPEAKER_04]: when Taylor Mississippi was actually founded.
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[SPEAKER_04]: His family was some of the first people to move into the area.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They worked in Mills owned by Mr. John Taylor of Mississippi.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Eventually the Locket family were able to get a decent piece of land where the submitters grandfather Edward Locket and Edward Locket
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[SPEAKER_04]: Instead, uh, this is instead of submitter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's call him John.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So John's mother died during childbirth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: RIP.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was raised by his father, Edward Jr. and his grandparents, as a boy, he was responsible for getting simple chores done around the farm, doing everything from feeding the hogs, the chickens, to gathering corn from the field.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John says that the property is rather large and apparently they're they owned so much land in the area that there were actually parts of their property that they had never explored.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they owned that much property.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had so much property that I couldn't even explore it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Same.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It'd be a good problem to have.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So
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[SPEAKER_04]: He lays out some of the areas saying that the farm was on a five acre clearing in the middle of the woods.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The property is oriented north to south with the home in the southeast corner of the clearing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Behind the home is a cornfield that extends the entire depth of the clearing, which stops roughly 75 feet from the woodline.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to the west of the cornfield was the barn, hogpins, chicken coops, and a storage shed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Beyond that to the west was a ridge line that ran along the length of the clearing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John was told that the property itself was purchased from the Chickasaw Indians.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Chickasaw were a very proud and civilized people with their own laws and religion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Above all, there were warriors
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[SPEAKER_04]: as a force to be reckoned with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John's father told him that deep within the boundaries of the property was the heart of the Chickasaw nation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is where they would bury their dead and praise their gods.
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[SPEAKER_04]: For a long while, which also is kind of weird that they, the Locke family, was able to purchase this property,
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[SPEAKER_04]: It had such deep ties to the Chickasaw people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So there's a reason as to why this property ends up falling into the locket family's hands.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because you would think that the Chickasaw would not want essentially their holy place.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to be gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unless there was some shenanigans, some shenanigans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So for a long while on the farm, our life on the farm was very quite normal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was until 1948 when John's grandfather signed a deal to provide oak and hickory wood to a local saw mill.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So basically
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of a, I understand it, but I also think that it's a dumb idea, but there, there's, there's shit loads of money to be made when you do that, you know, also considering a holy place is nearby, and I know that they, you know, essentially bought it fair and square, but you'd also think that the trick is all Indians.
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[SPEAKER_04]: really didn't plan on having the area logged.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, disturbing all this property.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, probably guarantee that wasn't part of the plan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So anyways, from that day forward, logging trucks were going back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It became a very busy place.
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[SPEAKER_04]: As you can imagine, in the first few weeks moving forward, they were creating logging roads to go deep into the forest.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the dirt road to the farm was widened to accommodate all the truckers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And trees were clear to create these, these roads going deep into the woods.
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[SPEAKER_04]: After two weeks of clearing John's father drove the road that extended at least seven miles deep into these woods.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So these, they were going all out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is a big property.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you can go seven miles into the woods.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that wasn't even the entirety of the property.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just where they, I guess it may be agreed to stop or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And as John and his father are going down this for this road, John described seeing massive trees, like these massive oak trees just all sprawled out, covered in moss, which tells you the area is old as fuck.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It takes a long time for oak trees to get massive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John said the area had a feeling to it, like something was lurking nearby.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John's father was not very comfortable in that area at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm assuming they got out and explored a little bit because John started to climb up one of these large oak trees.
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[SPEAKER_04]: His father, he said his father was feeling a little off and started to tell John like, hey, get out of the fucking tree, get back in the truck.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We need to get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We need to leave.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Johnson, the look on his face that day would be something that he would never forget.
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[SPEAKER_04]: His dad had fear painted all over his face.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He knew something wasn't right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That following week, the logging went in full effect.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A crew of 30 men came in with a foreman that went by the name Mr. David.
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[SPEAKER_04]: they were there day in and day out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John's grandfather had his best friend Barnaby with him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were going off deep into the woods, hunting and trapping.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shut up Barnaby.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Barnaby, it's a good name, solid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: On one of these hunting trips, John's grandfather was alerted to something being wrong in the property.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So his grandfather and his friend were well-beyond where the workers or the vloggers were working.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you're talking seven plus miles away from home.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, they were out and about and came across several severed deer heads.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Only the heads do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And one of the heads was actually impaled on top of the stick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was stuck into the ground.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's not good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which, you know, not knowing what's actually lurking out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Regardless, it kind of feels like a border like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: You shouldn't be going past this point or we're going to have fucking problems.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's kind of how I would take the thing in the design that I probably don't belong here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Time to color day fellas.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that night over dinner Barnaby was talking and he said how the night or who's saying how it felt like they were being watched for all angles when they were
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said it was like the woods were alive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't long after this that the logger started to talk.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And some of those tales got back to the family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were speaking of dark, fast-moving figures that would follow them throughout the woods, which prompted the men to start leaving the area well before sunset.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which started to cause problems because the foremen, Mr. David,
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's trying to chase that paper and he's like, hey, every second a day light, we need to be out there working boys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got to get this job done so we can make that money, which is typical form and bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Time to lean, time to clean.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Dorks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So on Tuesday evening, right before sunset, a group of vloggers came flying down the road in their pickup.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mr. David, who was a massive man, he was six foot nine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Massive dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Big Dave.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, big Dave.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See these guys come in, and he stands in the middle of the road to block them from leaving.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They come to a halt, get out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And some of the men were white in the face like they had seen ghosts or something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And others were watching the woods and the ridge line to see if anything was going to be coming out of the woods.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John said all the men were speaking at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You tell they were all just an absolute fear.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All of them were saying that one of the men had straight up disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All they were able to find was a torn shirt with blood on it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John points out that these men were loggers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Some of the toughest dudes around at that time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: These men had seen some shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Horrible accidents, gruesome deaths, all the above.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But these men were terrified.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'd be just scared as these guys because one of the men started saying, listen, they're welcome back to their truck.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Dude's right behind him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're talking and all of a sudden all they hear is a grunt and he's like I turned around and he was gone like he'd vanished into thin air and all that was left was the shirt and the blood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That sucks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's the missing 4011 shit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the man said there, there's something in these woods, something we don't need to be messing with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, say so.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that night, John's grandfather and his friend, Barnaby, and Mr. a big Dave, big Dave, shout out Barnaby.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All went into the woods to find out what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they also were kind of making attempt to find this missing logger.
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[SPEAKER_04]: when they returned, John said all the men were speaking in hush tones, which was weird for the household, because John said they were a pretty open family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't really keep secrets from each other.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They just put all the business out of dinner, you know, which is like admirable.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I feel like it's a solid family right there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So at that point, John knew something was going on
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[SPEAKER_04]: also that they were trying to keep something from him, but it didn't work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because at 4.30 a.m., the dogs on the property started to bark.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They had four large dogs all mixed breeds.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I believe that they were German shepherds mixed with the collies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they were a decent sized and relatively smart dog.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So John gets up and goes in the living room where at this point, everyone else is already there and they all have weapons with them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you're talking Barnaby, shout out Barnaby, grandpa and dad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're all in the living room with their weapons.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, something's going on, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you don't necessarily want to be on the other side of the door.
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[SPEAKER_04]: John doesn't really know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he's like, what's what's happening, Grandpa?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's going on?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Our grandma, so she, he's talking to grandma at this point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, she tells John that the men while how investigating the woods looking for the logger shot a large animal in the woods that day and they believed that others had followed them
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they decided at that point to bring all the dogs into the house.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They also put John and Grandma up in the attic of the house, which just tells you at that point, they anticipate some fucked up shit to have him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The dogs were in the house, and at this point, they are running from room to room, barking and growling.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So something's that obviously going on outside.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even with all that noise going on, the dogs, the people talking, John said a growl came from nowhere and it overpowered everything.
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, dude, this thing was so ridiculous,
22:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I swear it shook the floorboards in the attic.
22:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It was that powerful.
22:47
[SPEAKER_04]: So his grandma goes towards the front of the attic where this little window was.
22:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And she looked out.
22:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Wish to be honest, I would have done the same thing.
22:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have something like that going on and not look.
23:01
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
23:02
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to know your enemy.
23:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:06
[SPEAKER_04]: John said she, she never did end up describing what she saw, but he could tell that whatever it was, it had to have been a monster by the way, grandma looked.
23:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Then John heard what sounded like somebody bashing against the side of the house.
23:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Creepyly enough, it smashed against the house over and over and over again.
23:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I rock enough for mine's me of one of my stories when I encounter dog outside up.
23:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Which just made me feel gross as I'm reading through the story.
23:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, then the boys let loose.
23:52
[SPEAKER_04]: They start shooting.
23:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And they start, these Johnson lasted for about an hour and a half.
24:00
[SPEAKER_04]: So the boys, Grandpa, Dad and Barnaby weren't having it that night.
24:04
[SPEAKER_04]: They said, fuck this, you want to come get it.
24:07
[SPEAKER_04]: They start shooting.
24:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And all of a sudden, the silence is over.
24:12
[SPEAKER_04]: All of a sudden, there was silence.
24:16
[SPEAKER_04]: And they hear a grat or how often the distance.
24:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Later on, Grandma essentially says, nope.
24:25
[SPEAKER_04]: She packs all of her shit and goes,
24:30
[SPEAKER_04]: to stay with Mr. David's wife at their house.
24:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't blame her.
24:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Not at all.
24:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Not at all, especially as we get deeper into the story.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: At this point, David, they don't know what's a dog man.
24:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, no, at this point, I think all the adults, including grandma, know that there's a wolf-like creature outside.
24:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
24:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Because she's seen something that fucked her up or she's like, nope, I'm done, fuck this.
24:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And to be honest,
24:58
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this is all coming from John's perspective.
25:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't be surprised if Grandpa's like, listen, get around here.
25:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You need to go.
25:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
25:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I also, you can tell the age, the origins of the story because they let the boy stay.
25:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which I feel like it's a very old mentality of like you're a man Yeah, you know, you might be 11, but you can shoot.
25:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
25:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're staying in fighting.
25:26
[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna learn today.
25:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
25:28
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't learn today.
25:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, oddly enough, later that day, John said there were more loggers on the property than he did ever seen.
25:45
[SPEAKER_04]: They all had shotguns and rifles, which kind of as I previously stated, but I'm going to reiterate, I fucking admire this.
25:56
[SPEAKER_04]: No running, no crying, tell me that you may be, 10 toes down.
26:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Just bring the fucking rain.
26:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get it boys, they ain't stopping us from this money, okay?
26:11
[SPEAKER_04]: All the men were gathered at the house.
26:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And as John made his way through the crowd, to see what the all the commotion was and what they were talking about.
26:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, John found out what was making that noise than I before.
26:27
[SPEAKER_04]: They found John saw a dead hog laying there.
26:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's what had been used to hit the house.
26:38
[SPEAKER_04]: To hit the house.
26:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, thank you.
26:40
[SPEAKER_04]: All that was left.
26:41
[SPEAKER_04]: John said all that was left was a blob of fat, blood, and bone.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: No, thank you.
26:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I have heard a similar dogman story.
26:53
[SPEAKER_03]: in recent times.
26:55
[SPEAKER_04]: That's crazy.
26:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, where a man had a German shepherd and she had just had puppies and he had went to work and when he came back the German shepherd's enclosure had been torn to shreds
27:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Just the tin shredded the fence shredded and he sees what he thinks is her laying over by this tree and when he goes over there, he finds his dog and it's just obliterated said it looked like someone had grabbed her by her hind honches and just swung her against this tree over in oh, that's crazy.
27:43
[SPEAKER_03]: and all of the puppies were gone.
27:47
[SPEAKER_03]: They never found any of those.
27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was in of somewhere in the south and Kentucky or Tennessee or something.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't remember where the source of the story is, but it reminded me of that from that thing using the hog to beat against the side of the house.
28:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, this story, in my opinion, makes dog man way more terrifying.
28:12
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, and as John standing there, he witnesses this blob of meat and viscera.
28:21
[SPEAKER_04]: He also sees all the blood scattered across the house, and he's like the flies wherever we're at that point.
28:29
[SPEAKER_04]: They were also able to find large canine prints all around the house.
28:37
[SPEAKER_04]: That day, everyone, 34 men and little John went looking for the monsters.
28:43
[SPEAKER_04]: He said they all went all over.
28:46
[SPEAKER_04]: He described how at some points it was small hills and ridges to moss covered oaks that barely led any sunlight in to wetlands that were hard to travel through.
28:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Here little John was waste-eeping water with his gun over his head looking for these monsters
29:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Then the party came across some bizarre giant structures.
29:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Johnson, they looked like a nest where someone or something had burrowed its way into the ground.
29:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Around noon, they were tracking their way back out towards the trucks.
29:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Mr. David and his father found what they believed to be a Chick-a-Saw burial mound.
29:32
[SPEAKER_04]: They had a number of large rocks that formed a rectangular
29:38
[SPEAKER_04]: the ground row steeply forming a large mound.
29:41
[SPEAKER_04]: This discovery seemed to bother Mr. David a lot.
29:44
[SPEAKER_04]: He hurried back to his truck at that point.
29:47
[SPEAKER_04]: They went back to the house around sundown and met the men in the barn to do a head count.
29:54
[SPEAKER_04]: All 34 men were accounted for.
29:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And then 10 men volunteered to stay that night in the barn and kind of run protection throughout the night.
30:09
[SPEAKER_04]: So ed senior, ed junior, barnaby, and David all stayed in the house that night.
30:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Two dogs were placed in the barn and two dogs stayed inside the house.
30:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think if it was me in that situation, I wouldn't have split the pack up.
30:27
[SPEAKER_04]: I put all my eggs in one basket.
30:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I was said, no, I fucked that.
30:32
[SPEAKER_04]: We're all gonna stay in the house tonight.
30:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care how cramped it is.
30:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: More firepower, the better.
30:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and being split up like that, it just sounds bad.
30:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it
30:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Someateurs.
30:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, that night, John's father stepped out on the back porch to have a smoke.
31:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's when Little John seen the dog man for the first time.
31:09
[SPEAKER_04]: He was open in the porch door to bring his father some matches when he sees a large figure standing among the rows of corn in the field.
31:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And this figure that was standing there was fucking massive.
31:27
[SPEAKER_04]: It was gray, and it stood out in the corn and the moonlight.
31:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Charlie, the largest of all the dogs at this point, sent something was wrong.
31:39
[SPEAKER_04]: barrels past Lil John out on that back porch and plants itself right in between the monster and Charlie are in John.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: So Charlie's being the dog it's supposed to be.
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it says fuck this I'm saving you and I'm gonna fight this big bitch.
32:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And keep mine a little kid description, but he swears that this dog man had to been ever been a 10 feet tall.
32:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Big boy of fucking truck.
32:21
[SPEAKER_03]: That he just shot those big Dave.
32:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
32:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
32:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That's insane.
32:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And this this gray figure is standing there kind of a looking around apparently.
32:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It hasn't quite locked on to Charlie and his dad or yet Charlie John and his dad.
32:45
[SPEAKER_04]: But then Charlie Grouse added it and this thing turns his head and faces them.
32:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And this looks at him like, wrong answer.
32:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, John said the moon like could be seen reflecting off its eyes, which gave it an amber reflection.
32:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Then it stepped outward of the corn into the open.
33:05
[SPEAKER_04]: John said this thing had a giant wolf head, at least four times the size of Charlie's head.
33:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Which like I said, what?
33:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Charlie was at least a mix of a German shepherd.
33:21
[SPEAKER_04]: So take a German shepherd's head and four times it.
33:27
[SPEAKER_04]: John said he could hear this kind of bizarre popping noise.
33:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And he describes it as like human joints cracking, but it was way louder.
33:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And before like, oh, that's so gross.
33:41
[SPEAKER_04]: So this creature is standing there.
33:44
[SPEAKER_04]: He hears this popping noise, but it was so fast because that was the noise, I guess, as the creature's getting down on all fours.
33:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I think.
33:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's so gross.
33:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and John's dad reacted and shoots it this thing.
34:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Understandably.
34:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm assuming he missed it and you'll understand why later But that that shot gun shot Snaps John out of this transit he was in because I mean if you're fucking staring at a Massive thing that's not supposed to exist.
34:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I can understand that you get locked in your little focus Right So John is dad go back inside immediately and shut the door
34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: poor Charlie is left out there to square off against the big guy.
34:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't much of a fight.
34:46
[SPEAKER_04]: They heard Charlie growling and within seconds it turns into a cry and then allowed
34:56
[SPEAKER_03]: that's not good.
34:57
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
34:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And I guess at that point, all hell breaks loose.
35:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything.
35:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything was making noise.
35:05
[SPEAKER_04]: The men, the guns, the chickens, the hogs.
35:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything was in a panic that night.
35:10
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, peach early.
35:12
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, peach early.
35:13
[SPEAKER_04]: You were, you did what you was supposed to do.
35:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Good boy.
35:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Charlie.
35:17
[SPEAKER_04]: You did what you were supposed to.
35:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think people understand how tall tin feet tall is.
35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I've been looking up.
35:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's a regulation MBA basketball hoop.
35:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, that's how I, I quit tin feet.
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's tall.
35:34
[SPEAKER_04]: It's fucking massive.
35:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
35:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Which like I said, it's coming from John a little boy might be a little exaggerated.
35:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I would say you're looking at least seven to ten feet.
35:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, even half half that half that distance eight and half feet tall.
35:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's massive monstrous massive.
35:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Ed, man.
35:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's big for the height.
36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is way more aggressive than Sasquatch, at least toward people.
36:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:08
[SPEAKER_03]: With the giant caned head.
36:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's hard.
36:13
[SPEAKER_03]: It's already proven that it just kills the kills.
36:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not killing to eat.
36:18
[SPEAKER_03]: It used a hog as a weapon.
36:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:28
[SPEAKER_04]: That's almost like demented, like I can't really find the word for it.
36:33
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's fucked up that it would grab a hog and use it as like a bat to just beat the side of the house.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
36:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I feel like it takes a level of intelligence to do that.
36:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Not to mention, imagine the amount of strength.
36:52
[SPEAKER_04]: It takes to pick up a hog.
36:54
[SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly what I was just looking at.
36:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking hundreds of pounds.
37:00
[SPEAKER_03]: If it were a wild hog, which I'm assuming is not because they were out on a farm.
37:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wild hog is anywhere 75 to 150 pounds, but Big hogs are 500 plus some some well bigger than that.
37:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah
37:14
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of meat to be swinging.
37:18
[SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy.
37:19
[SPEAKER_04]: The amount, like I said, the amount of strength that it takes to do that is nuts.
37:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Crazy.
37:24
[SPEAKER_04]: And I feel like at this point in the story, that's just a fraction of what this creature is capable of.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I won't wear a pork chop suit.
37:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and I'm telling you, this story changes the way you think about dog man.
37:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I won't do that.
37:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And that night, Barnaby said he counted at least 12 different creatures.
37:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so it's not just one.
37:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and it really does lay out that it was a fucking siege.
38:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.
38:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if there's one thing worse than a 10 foot dogman, it's a baker's dozen.
38:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
38:14
[SPEAKER_03]: 10 foot tall, dog, men, pia, that's crazy.
38:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It is ass of nine.
38:25
[SPEAKER_03]: So hate that for them.
38:28
[SPEAKER_04]: The men were pretty fucking sure.
38:29
[SPEAKER_04]: They were hitting these things.
38:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't seem to do anything to them.
38:33
[SPEAKER_03]: That makes it a lot worse.
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, bullet pay.
38:36
[SPEAKER_03]: However dog man.
38:38
[SPEAKER_04]: However.
38:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that's the case.
38:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm hoping I don't.
38:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It's I didn't actually I know that's not the case.
38:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, after this night was over and they met up with the men in the barn, they described what they had all been seeing.
38:56
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, Barnaby, Dad, Grandpa, and John were in the house fighting off their batch.
39:04
[SPEAKER_04]: The men in the barn were also fighting off a batch.
39:08
[SPEAKER_04]: That sucks.
39:10
[SPEAKER_04]: So the men in the barn
39:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Big boy 10 footer jacked right.
39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah hog swing or if you hog swing or that's a good.
39:23
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good name for him It's a good name.
39:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a lot of levels there The men in the barn were saying they were seeing some slender and lean ones with wolf heads and shorter snouts
39:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And that these, these ones were just like the big one, they would see them switch rapidly from two legs to four very quickly.
39:53
[SPEAKER_04]: That's so creepy.
39:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know from reading later on that some of these other ones were actually shorter than all big boy.
40:07
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so.
40:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're dealing with
40:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, little or ones, they're all big, but so fluidly move from bipedal to quadrupedal.
40:23
[SPEAKER_04]: It's terrifying.
40:27
[SPEAKER_04]: It almost should be non-existent, but yeah.
40:29
[SPEAKER_04]: It happens.
40:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Why did they describe the bones cracking the first time it happened is such a wearable floor, such a wearable trope.
40:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
40:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, might be where the trope came from.
40:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I was what I was thinking.
40:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gross.
40:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It is disgusting.
40:47
[SPEAKER_04]: So.
40:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, the men were described what they had seen.
40:51
[SPEAKER_04]: They also did find Charlie's body torn to pieces among the rows of corn.
40:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn it, Charlie.
40:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had to hear her.
41:01
[SPEAKER_04]: He did die here.
41:03
[SPEAKER_04]: After that, no one showed back up to log the property.
41:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I mean, fair.
41:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And 10 of them in that were logging the property.
41:13
[SPEAKER_04]: urge the family to leave as soon as possible.
41:15
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, you didn't even just get the fuck outta here.
41:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, fair.
41:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Mr. David, on the other hand, was fit to be tied.
41:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Big Dave's got log stuff.
41:26
[SPEAKER_04]: All big Dave has logs the whole.
41:30
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, fuck this.
41:32
[SPEAKER_04]: We need to be staying in fish in this damn job so we can get paid.
41:37
[SPEAKER_03]: We got big day of the log swinger versus 10 footer, the hog swinger.
41:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel like the hog swinger has a leg up.
41:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's got some.
41:49
[SPEAKER_04]: So he, David, he's determined.
41:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, all right, fuck all of you.
41:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll do it myself.
42:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Goes to the next county hires a new crew workers and part of this agreement is that you have to stay on the property in the barn That way they could work from son up to sundown.
42:17
[SPEAKER_03]: What's what's our wages here Dave?
42:21
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna have to discuss this a little bit.
42:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there wasn't a whole lot of discussing because that that 50 man crew
42:30
[SPEAKER_04]: lasted 24 hours.
42:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they were gone.
42:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you.
42:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
42:34
[SPEAKER_04]: So much so that all of them ended up leaving in the middle of the fucking night.
42:38
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't even make it 24 hours.
42:40
[SPEAKER_04]: They said, fuck this.
42:41
[SPEAKER_04]: We're out of 18.
42:42
[SPEAKER_04]: We're out of 5,000.
42:44
[SPEAKER_04]: We ain't, we ain't staying for this.
42:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not blaming them.
42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Hell, no.
42:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't, I can't tell you that wasn't in big Dave's contract.
42:52
[SPEAKER_04]: No, fuck no, he, he definitely neglect the dimensions and things.
42:57
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to be logging, sun up, sun down, hard work, boys, hard work.
43:01
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not staying on the property.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Good pay.
43:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Good pay once the job's done.
43:05
[SPEAKER_03]: We got, we got barn set up.
43:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're good.
43:09
[SPEAKER_03]: They're your quarters.
43:10
[SPEAKER_03]: You can hang out there.
43:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Things that you won't have to worry about is trying flesh eating cryptids that want to murder you.
43:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:19
[SPEAKER_03]: That was in the final print.
43:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And now apparently, and I'm curious to how this plays out.
43:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe in the beginning, it was more about warnings than anything, because apparently the men left in the middle of the night because in the top of the barn, there was a hole, right?
43:42
[SPEAKER_04]: And it just so happens that a deer carcass was dropped through the hole in the roof of the barn.
43:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to think it was thrown through.
43:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably was because that is a lot.
43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to throw a, got to be, got to have some meat on your bones, the throw a deer.
44:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And to make matters worse, the head of the deer was gone.
44:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And the kill was so fresh that the legs were still kicking and blood was still squirting from the neck.
44:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I personally would take that as a warning.
44:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that I would probably pack my bags and leave as well.
44:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Headless nears don't just jump through roofs.
44:32
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you right.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't happen.
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't do that.
44:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Never seen that before in my life.
44:38
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't move a whole lot.
44:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Not sticking around to find out why it did it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... optimistic and think this is like a guardian of the forest kind of thing like oh we're gonna stop these evil loggers from you know pillaging the land but the other part of me knows that it's probably just a blood thirsty murderous creature
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause you ain't pay it, you ain't, that you're not gonna convince me, that you're all pro-the-forest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you keep using forest creatures as weapons in warning,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's a pretty good point, you know, I think I think the angle that you're right in here, you're about 50 50, you take 50 50 of that analysis and that's where they're actually at because if you want to protect the forest and you're going to set up a warning, you're just going to decapitate forest creatures.
45:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And stick them on sticks and say, Hey, be nice to the environment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not buying it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I do.
45:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I love that.
45:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the murder canine cult.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a fucking good point.
46:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can use this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise.
46:04
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a good point.
46:05
[SPEAKER_04]: that these these things just have zero fucks and they're like, you know, fucking, I know how I know how to send a message.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No regard for any other life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm just going to grab Bambi and impail it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That way they know we're not playing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to use a hog as a weapon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I have that in my, like, I haven't
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, think about that too, think about how shitty it is to be around them and be less superior animals or as going because they, so they're like, all right, you know what will warn the humans will warn them.
46:53
[SPEAKER_04]: but we don't give a fuck about anything else in these woods.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're just a deer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't give a fuck.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just doing deer stuff, you know, just being a deer.
47:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And over here, you got loggers literally destroying your entire home.
47:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And over here, you got murderers, dog man cult saying, we're gonna scare these loggers off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know how we're gonna do it?
47:14
[SPEAKER_03]: And they just looked directly at you.
47:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
47:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I give my head.
47:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I envision them grabbing a deer like they would like you and me would a marker to make a sign There's like here it is You better be kind of the forest.
47:35
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so fucked up.
47:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I love it though.
47:37
[SPEAKER_04]: So Hey, man
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[SPEAKER_04]: hats off to the situation right because I do understand this at this point.
47:47
[SPEAKER_04]: John's dad is really fucking worried about John being on the property.
47:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Understandable.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would be terrified too if my children were there.
47:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Ed Seenier has an idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hear it, Ed.
48:04
[SPEAKER_04]: He goes to me with a man.
48:08
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give him that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is solid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're we're with you.
48:12
[SPEAKER_04]: It goes and meets a dude who's a part of a big game hunting club.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bigger game bigger guns.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A, you have guys experienced in fighting large animals.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right now, services.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And B, you're meeting with the club of men that have monstrous egos.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and would love nothing more than to bag a 10-foot wolf.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wear wolf for that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wear wolf.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a good play.
48:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I were going to put together a team of elite dog men fighting
48:56
[SPEAKER_03]: people not not other creatures but people big game hunters would be on the list good idea right yeah it's solid it's a solid plant marines yeah you know yeah things of that nature 18 more dogs yeah
49:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Swing this hog, just fucking dog, man.
49:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Napalm.
49:21
[SPEAKER_04]: So anyways, he goes these hunters, explains the nature of these animals and how he wanted to hunt them all down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The man being a straight-up fucking stud, he's like, listen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can track these things and I can kill him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can do this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the next day, eight big game hunters go into the property and went straight into the woods with every intention of staying out there all night long and hunting these things down one by one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't go like that does it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: At five a.m. Oh, they made it quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One man returns.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
50:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Beating on the back door, begging to be let it.
50:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That same day, John was taken to stay with grandma at Big Dave's house.
50:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Good call.
50:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Good call.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Solid call.
50:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you made it longer than I thought you would, John.
50:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So now Holy smokes.
50:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm essentially, because this is still coming from John.
50:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm essentially, like a lot of it is probably second hand from his father retelling the story so and so forth, right?
50:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So two weeks after this, nothing was left for the farm.
50:42
[SPEAKER_04]: the chickens, the hogs had all been killed.
50:46
[SPEAKER_04]: All the dogs have been killed.
50:48
[SPEAKER_04]: The barn had actually been set on fire in an attempt to escape the gray one.
50:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I thought the dog meant it on fire.
51:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like no, these motherfuckers can start fires now.
51:04
[SPEAKER_04]: which now they have assessed the gray one to be the leader of the pack.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the 10 footer, they dubbed the gray one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Old hogswinger hogswinger, AKA gray one is the leader.
51:19
[SPEAKER_03]: They just said hell with it were burning the barn down.
51:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
51:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
51:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
51:25
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
51:26
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
51:26
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair call.
51:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if it's either solid play, if it's either me being swung by my feet used as a weapon or burning the barn down, the barn's going, we could build a new barn.
51:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure.
51:42
[SPEAKER_03]: On a place that isn't infested with dogmen.
51:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
51:48
[SPEAKER_04]: So Ed senior finally abandoned the property.
51:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Put up a good fight, Ed.
51:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, one one evening.
51:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Not a really good fight, but you tried.
51:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just before dusk, he spotted the gray one and 10 other dog men standing on the ridge line looking down on the farm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Equically realizes that daylight provided zero fucking security.
52:14
[SPEAKER_04]: That sucks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he leaves.
52:17
[SPEAKER_04]: He had every intention to regroup later and come back to take the property over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Two months later, John's dad and grandfather decided they were going back to get some personal things including the deeds of the property.
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[SPEAKER_04]: which they're obviously going to need if they try to sell.
52:36
[SPEAKER_04]: So, dad, grandpa, Barnaby, and John all travel to the property to gather up some things.
52:44
[SPEAKER_04]: When they got there, they gave John a shotgun and basically made him the lookout.
52:50
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, like, listen, you're going to sit out here
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[SPEAKER_04]: you shoot one shot into the air and do not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I repeat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do not shoot the gray one.
53:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you're pointing this out for very specific reason.
53:25
[SPEAKER_04]: The gray one is hyper intelligent and they find this out later.
53:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I intelligent is kind of an understatement.
53:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I would not want to be the lookout, no.
53:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if you're looking for them, they've already seen you.
53:48
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to be the first thing that they spot.
53:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not cash money.
53:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm wondering now by analysis, because this is at this point where I'm going to in this episode, because we have a whole another episode we're going to get into the saga of the hogswinger.
54:09
[SPEAKER_04]: We're just breaking the surface.
54:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm wondering now, if Dogman does have a flaw,
54:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I wonder if dogman's eyesight is not that great.
54:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is foreshadowing.
54:25
[SPEAKER_04]: This is foreshadowing.
54:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Does a lot of this stuff takes place in the dark, though.
54:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if it's better in the dark.
54:39
[SPEAKER_04]: That could be a thing.
54:41
[SPEAKER_04]: That makes sense, because the scenario that's about to play out, that makes sense.
54:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't shoot the gray one because you would think Because they're obviously there in the daylight.
54:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm shooting a gray one.
54:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, fuck that thing.
54:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you.
54:56
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's dominance right there.
54:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wouldn't give it a big dog.
55:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
55:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I get you some.
55:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
55:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And then maybe the rest of the pack of scatter.
55:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, drop the head off the snake.
55:14
[SPEAKER_03]: and then get murdered.
55:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
55:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he's from what we know, not not that we can necessarily pin down who did what, but from what we know, he's the most aggressive.
55:28
[SPEAKER_03]: He was the one that was swinging the hog, right?
55:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
55:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So we don't know who threw the deer, but we can assume probably him.
55:37
[SPEAKER_03]: It was him.
55:37
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's hyper aggressive.
55:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So sometimes you just got it, which is, you know, got to get it kind of an alpha thing to do.
55:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got like, you're going to fight off 12 other dog man.
55:53
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, you just do crazy shit.
55:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
55:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Where they don't want to fight you.
55:58
[SPEAKER_04]: It's true.
56:00
[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy to do that.
56:01
[UNKNOWN]: It's true.
56:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm glad I'm glad this is a good stopping point because this
56:06
[SPEAKER_04]: more foreshadowing slash spoiler.
56:09
[SPEAKER_04]: This is, this is the kickoff of the Great War.
56:18
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a couple night siege, but
56:23
[SPEAKER_04]: It is so much more.
56:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
56:25
[SPEAKER_04]: It is so much more than you anticipate dog bad dog man.
56:30
[SPEAKER_03]: It's already ran out 60 lumberjacks and assuming murdered seven big game hunters.
56:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Plus one logger plus your eight bodies in at this point that we know of.
56:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the at least.
56:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, uh, yeah.
56:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Trust me, this is the tip of the iceberg.
56:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Aim for the face.
56:59
[SPEAKER_04]: The story gets so much better.
57:01
[SPEAKER_04]: And Steve, Steve, that statement there, you might have just unknowingly unlocked a weakness of the dog man.
57:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Shoot him in the face.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope so.
57:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope so.
57:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you somehow manifesting Barnaby right now?
57:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I am.
57:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think I think that you are.
57:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been shot amount all night.
57:27
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think you channeled him.
57:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean remember this moment because be button locked in.
57:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Remember this moment because it will become relevant.
57:39
[SPEAKER_04]: and part two.
57:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I psychic right now?
57:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that you are.
57:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I psychic right now?
57:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that I think you have fully manifested Bartonby into your being.
57:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Have I just astral projected back into the locket seed?
57:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
57:57
[SPEAKER_03]: My conscience is there right now.
57:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Without question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm there fighting dog man telepathically.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You are.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can, I'll prove it in episode two.
58:09
[SPEAKER_03]: has traveled back to the Siege, and I'm telling, I'm gonna be in for the face, bro.
58:16
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
58:16
[UNKNOWN]: Ain't for the face.
58:18
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, I will prove this in Episode 10.
58:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that'd be instead.
58:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys are gonna have to tune in next week to watch me telepathically take over, lock it, ranch.
58:34
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for hanging out with us this Monday.
58:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Hope you guys have a great work week.
58:40
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58:43
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58:44
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58:54
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