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Best of Chuck & Buck 6-16 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Chaos.
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  Speaker 3: The action never stopped?
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  Speaker 4: Something complete?
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  Speaker 1: This is Chucking Buck in the Morning. You people are
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  Speaker 1: beyond Let's go. Let's get the game on. Hey, great
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  Speaker 1: morning to you. Welcome in here on this Tuesday and
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  Speaker 1: is Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three k j R FM. It is wonderful to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us, say here on this radio program
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  Speaker 1: which will last in its entirety four consecutive hours today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll wrap it up at ten o'clock and in the
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  Speaker 1: midtime we will discuss all sorts of different fun, juicy
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  Speaker 1: topics for you here today, we've got a cavalcade of
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  Speaker 1: guess I mean, we pretty much are representing every single
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  Speaker 1: sport known demand with some former Seattle athlete here today.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to help us break down a few things
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  Speaker 1: during the course of our four hours together. And so
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  Speaker 1: we welcome you.
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  Speaker 4: And when I.
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  Speaker 1: Say we, I mean Ashley Ryan is here. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Chuck Powell. Welcome to the radio show here on
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  Speaker 1: this Tuesday. And yes, World Cup fever is certainly buzzing
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  Speaker 1: around here, there's no question about that. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: realize there were that many people from Belgium.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And turns out there are I think they're all here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's anyone left in Belgium
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  Speaker 6: right now. Maybe not yeah, maybe like seven, but most
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  Speaker 6: of them are here, and most of them march down
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  Speaker 6: First Avenue yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I got your ear. You know you do great beer,
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  Speaker 1: those of you from Brussels. I love your sprouts.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yes, sprouts are great roasted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are delicious. So yes, welcome to the to
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  Speaker 1: the city. You seem to have a good time yesterday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for all you do for us. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: there was some thought. There was some question as to just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how they were going to do with ticket sales.
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  Speaker 1: There was some panic from what I understand about why
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  Speaker 1: aren't we moving tickets? And then man let the soccer
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  Speaker 1: fan come through for either that or they're just a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stunt doubles or you know, some extras. The way,
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  Speaker 1: it looked great that shipped in here, but the sea
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  Speaker 1: of red that took over Lomen Field yesterday and and
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  Speaker 1: in Egypt represented itself as well. I mean, for our
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  Speaker 1: first World Cup performance, our first hosting job, it seemed
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  Speaker 1: to go off without a hitch, which is wonderful, and
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  Speaker 1: it looked spectacling. Whatever they did to the field to
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  Speaker 1: make it play ready, I mean it was. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that is about as beautiful as setting for a soccer
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  Speaker 1: match that I think that I've ever set my eyes upon.
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  Speaker 1: And it seemed to me that everybody that's watched a
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  Speaker 1: lot more soccer than I have were in agreement.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it looked awesome, And I mean I've been following
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  Speaker 6: with what they actually did to the field in order
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  Speaker 6: to put the actual turf in there, and they raised
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  Speaker 6: it I think eighteen inches and there's a whole drainage
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  Speaker 6: system under there, and jeez, incredible.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they did it for a month long tournament.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty impressive to do all that work for
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  Speaker 6: a tournament that's going to be here for a month.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess it is a pretty big deal. I
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  Speaker 1: guess they had to feed the lawn. You got to
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  Speaker 1: feed it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they brought in scult.
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  Speaker 1: Is that all they did? You put on some Scott.
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  Speaker 5: Just brought skul in and he took care of it.
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  Speaker 1: Raised the field eighteen inches. Yeah, that seems like a
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  Speaker 1: lot to do.
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  Speaker 6: And all he did, actually, Scott was just tell everyone
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  Speaker 6: you've got to feed the lawns it.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't do anything other than that. Well, they took
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  Speaker 1: hearty obviously, let him lead by example. Ell smart, and
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  Speaker 1: look at what happened.
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  Speaker 5: Look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Just a beautiful, gorgeous setting.
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  Speaker 5: We're so lucky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the ceremonies were great and h and for
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  Speaker 1: everybody to be well behaved, which is really important. Ye,
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  Speaker 1: people together, really very important. And we're just getting started.
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  Speaker 1: So just because we were good for one day, we
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  Speaker 1: got to be good for all the days. Okay, hands
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  Speaker 1: in right, all right? Good on three one two three?
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 1: I will also say this, Uh, I appreciated this. I
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed this, And again I hope it's real. Who knows
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  Speaker 1: with AI today, who knows what burner accounts and how
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  Speaker 1: it works on social media? Maybe I'm being played the fool.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe everybody is being played the fool, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: much kind of use too. And and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for the young people here, once upon a time America
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  Speaker 1: was loved everywhere people people just put us on a pedestal.
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  Speaker 1: At least I felt that way when I was a
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  Speaker 1: young person growing up in this country, and over the
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  Speaker 1: course of the last ten to fifteen years, hadn't really
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  Speaker 1: felt that way, hasn't really felt like there was that
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  Speaker 1: much international love for our wonderful country here in America
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  Speaker 1: because of a few things that have occurred. But I
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  Speaker 1: would just say that you know when you do when
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  Speaker 1: you have lived in this country where you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you were the standard that everybody held themselves to. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the way I felt. Whether it was true or not,
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  Speaker 1: forgive me, but that's how I grew up feeling like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I live in the best country in the world.
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  Speaker 1: I still feel that way to this day. But I
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  Speaker 1: felt growing up that everybody else throughout the world felt
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  Speaker 1: that we were the best country. And then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you have to experience like a decade decade
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  Speaker 1: and a half of kind of feeling like you're getting
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  Speaker 1: trashed at all times, and that others look down upon
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  Speaker 1: you and that, you know, so we've had to kind
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  Speaker 1: of face that. And as a fifty five year old
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  Speaker 1: person that's new to me, that's hard. That's hard for
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  Speaker 1: me to take. And so you host an event, and
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  Speaker 1: you've got all of these foreign tourists that are coming
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  Speaker 1: into town, and they're going to test your country and
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  Speaker 1: taste your city, and you are hosting their favorite sports,
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  Speaker 1: not our favorite sport, you're hosting their favorite sport, and
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  Speaker 1: so you want it to go well because you'd like
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  Speaker 1: to actually hear some really good positive feedback about America
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  Speaker 1: while we're doing We're hosting this international, global event which
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  Speaker 1: is special to so many people and so many countries.
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  Speaker 1: And for me to kind of wake up from my
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  Speaker 1: nap yesterday and then go to Twitter and a granted
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of source Twitter is, and
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  Speaker 1: just see tweet after tweet after tweet be about international
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  Speaker 1: journalists like commending America for how well things are run,
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  Speaker 1: how beautiful the stadiums are. To see people who are
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  Speaker 1: fans of soccer from out of football there you go,
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  Speaker 1: coming into America maybe for the first time, and watching
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup, watch their team, and for them to
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  Speaker 1: be so effusive in their praise and especially talking about
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  Speaker 1: how beautiful the stadiums are and they've never watched a
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  Speaker 1: match in such a gorgeous setting before. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: just Seattle, obviously, San Francisco, Santa Clara is putting on
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  Speaker 1: a show in LA I mean, that's something I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: a lot of soccer fans from outside of America have
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  Speaker 1: never seen a stadium quite like that. Yeah, and for
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  Speaker 1: us to be kind of putting on so far such
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  Speaker 1: a good show for them, and for them to acknowledge it,
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  Speaker 1: for them to tip their cap, for them to be
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  Speaker 1: effusive in their praise, and yeah, you got a couple
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  Speaker 1: outliers that are being turds, but that's unavoidable. But for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, it's just tweet after tweet that I
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  Speaker 1: woke up to, and believe me, I wouldn't sir for that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was just coming up on my timeline
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  Speaker 1: of people that are visiting and attending the World Cup
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  Speaker 1: from outside of America having nothing but good things to
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  Speaker 1: say about how beautiful the matches look, how great the
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  Speaker 1: stadiums are, and how smoothly things are going, and how
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  Speaker 1: good a time that they're having in the city. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I saw a couple of them Ashley where
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  Speaker 1: people were like, It's everything I dreamed of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like this was like the high end, Like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure believe me. I lived in New Zealand for
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  Speaker 1: a while and the house that I rented was from
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  Speaker 1: a woman whose son and I had a couple of
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  Speaker 1: conversations and he asked me straight faced at one point,
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  Speaker 1: he goes, so, when you're in America, are you always
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  Speaker 1: worried about getting shot? Oh? And I'm like, no, like never, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And yet because of our movie and because of our
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  Speaker 1: headlines and everything else, that was a fifteen sixteen, a
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  Speaker 1: pri sixteen year old kids interpretation of what life was
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  Speaker 1: like in America. So if a lot of other people
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  Speaker 1: feel that way and they're journeying across, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: their heads, they're like, is it going to be dangerous?
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to be in trouble? And for them
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  Speaker 1: to instead go to social media with such praise it
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  Speaker 1: was good. It was good for me to see. And
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  Speaker 1: certainly it feels like Seattle has putting on quite a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful and safe and awesome show so far in our
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  Speaker 1: World Cup experience.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and even with the public transportation and the way
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  Speaker 6: that people had to get to the games. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I left home early yesterday worried that I didn't know
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  Speaker 6: if people were going to be going to their offices
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  Speaker 6: early to try to avoid the mess yesterday, and that
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  Speaker 6: it would be a mess.
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  Speaker 5: Even driving home. It was not a mess.
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  Speaker 6: I think a lot of people really did heed the
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  Speaker 6: warning of please use public transportation, and there were a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people staying in the downtown hotels. Our boss
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  Speaker 6: said that the graffiti was clean, so the city was
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  Speaker 6: showing out. I saw words on social media like breath taking.
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  Speaker 5: And stunning when people.
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  Speaker 6: Were talking about the field, and one of them was
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  Speaker 6: from the World Cup account, like the Seattle Stadium looks
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  Speaker 6: stunning and I so, I mean, I just yeah, that's
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  Speaker 6: pretty cool. And granted, you know, mother Nature helped out
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  Speaker 6: put on quite a show yesterday as well. The mountain
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  Speaker 6: was out, the water looked beautiful. I mean, just yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You think about all these people that come in for
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  Speaker 6: an event like the World Cup, and it's not I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 6: there are a lot of wealthy people who could go
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  Speaker 6: and do whatever, but there's a lot of people who
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  Speaker 6: have saved up for a long time to make a
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  Speaker 6: trip like this to go see their team and consider
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  Speaker 6: it a once in a lifetime opportunity. So when they
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  Speaker 6: go and they're spending all of that money and they
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  Speaker 6: work so hard to be able to do that trip,
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  Speaker 6: it's pretty cool to know that the place where you
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  Speaker 6: live is exceeding their expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and is still a beacon and is still you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's still the only place that I want to live. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: me too.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 6: I've been driving thinking, my goodness, we live in the
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  Speaker 6: most beautiful place on earth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so it's nice because it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: we haven't gotten a lot of good publicity internationally over
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  Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. So if the World Cup serves
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not a soccer fan, but if the World
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  Speaker 1: Cup serves that purpose, man, what a runaway success. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we got a long way to go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but off to a tremendous start. It feels like, I think,
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  Speaker 1: and if somebody's listening, like you're out of your mind.
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  Speaker 1: I was down there and this happened and this that, well,
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  Speaker 1: then you know, maybe I need to be educated to that.
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  Speaker 1: But for the most part, it feels like mostly positive
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  Speaker 1: reviews and in some cases overwhelmingly positive reviews, and I
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  Speaker 1: really do everybody that comes into town and gets to
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  Speaker 1: watch their team. I hope it is everything you hoped
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  Speaker 1: it would be. I hope that for the American soccer
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  Speaker 1: fan that I hope it for anders Hurst and for
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Feltz. I hope this is everything that you want
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  Speaker 1: it to be as well. And so you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: got a challenge on my hands because We're going to
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  Speaker 1: dedicate our station to a degree, to an event that
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  Speaker 1: I've really never paid much attention to. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: that I don't recognize soccer as the number one sport
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  Speaker 1: in the world. I get it, and I get that
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  Speaker 1: the World Cups the number one sporting event. Nothing that
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  Speaker 1: I grew up on, nothing that I was raised on,
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  Speaker 1: and it is really hard. It's hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: get through ten minutes of this sport.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: And I can.
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  Speaker 1: Usually take about two fake injuries before I turned the
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  Speaker 1: channel to something else and I'll swing back to it.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm trying, you know, to quote Samuel L. Jackson
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  Speaker 1: and Pulp Fiction, I'm trying real hard, Ringo to be
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  Speaker 1: the shepherd, trying real hard right now to not make
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  Speaker 1: a big deal out of how did you did you
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  Speaker 1: spend your entire day yesterday watching four different World Cup
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  Speaker 1: matches that all ended in draws.
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  Speaker 5: There have been a lot of draws.
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  Speaker 1: Four four out of four yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but we've had some, I think at least one
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  Speaker 6: a day, but four out of four yesterday, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You spent If somebody is World Cup crazy and they
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  Speaker 1: spent time watching all four matches yesterday, they didn't see
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  Speaker 1: a win or a loss. Yeah, they spent an entire
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  Speaker 1: day watching a sport and didn't watch one team win
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  Speaker 1: or lose.
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  Speaker 5: And if you ask them, they probably said, oh, it
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  Speaker 5: was glorious.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe now I once have had old school boxing
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  Speaker 1: fans tell me that the best purest kind of a
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  Speaker 1: boxing match is a draw. And as for boxing, can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine that? Did you pay money for pay per
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  Speaker 1: view to watch some big heavyweight championship fight and it
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  Speaker 1: ends with the, you know, a draw that the judges
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  Speaker 1: can't even make a decision, and then some old timers
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  Speaker 1: sitting next to you goes, that was a perfect match. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's dumb. It doesn't it doesn't add up. Yeah, Soccer fans,
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, are okay with this. Now, It's hard
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  Speaker 1: for me to wrap my brain around that. I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine spending thousands of dollars and the number of hours
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  Speaker 1: that it took to get here, and uh, going to
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  Speaker 1: another city and investing a lot in that, like mentally, emotionally, financially,
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff, getting in that stadium and then
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  Speaker 1: watching my team fight for two hours and then end
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  Speaker 1: with no satisfaction of having won or lost the game,
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  Speaker 1: and especially.
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  Speaker 5: If it's one that's scoreless.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was even a scoreless one. So I can't
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  Speaker 1: wrap my brain around it. But I guess as long
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  Speaker 1: as you soccer people are okay with it, I guess
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  Speaker 1: you had the time of your life last night because
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  Speaker 1: it was a draw a palooza last night. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: four matches, all ties and in the World Cup. And
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  Speaker 1: yet all I'm airing is how wonderful everything is. So
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  Speaker 1: if that's your cup of tea, like I said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying real hard to be the shepherd. I'm letting you
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  Speaker 1: have your moment and if you love it, if you
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  Speaker 1: love getting up at Christmas and just getting socks, then awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad that you got that yesterday. But man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how I could even spend a day
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  Speaker 1: if you just imagine like NFL playoff that opening weekend
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  Speaker 1: where you got four games over the weekend. I can't
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  Speaker 1: even imagine that if we just were like, because this
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  Speaker 1: is the playoffs, this is their version of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Can't even imagine getting there and saying, man, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: glad all four of those football games ended in a tie.
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  Speaker 5: No, I hate when one of them ends in a tie.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they never do well, No, but we had one
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  Speaker 1: not a playoff game.
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  Speaker 6: No, not a playoff game, but I'm saying, like just
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  Speaker 6: a regular game. I hate when that happens. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: let alone. I mean, I couldn't imagine if you had
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  Speaker 6: to do it in a playoff or that afterwards, you'd
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  Speaker 6: be like, Okay, we're just gonna let the kickers kick
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  Speaker 6: the ball down the field and see how far it
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  Speaker 6: goes whoever kicks it the farthest.
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  Speaker 5: That's how you win.
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  Speaker 1: For football games and the National Football League all ended
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  Speaker 1: in ties and we settled them with coin tosses. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: but whatever, again, have a ball, enjoy it, soak it up.
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  Speaker 1: Should have even better weather for you as the week
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  Speaker 1: goes on. It'll be hot a little cooler here by Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people are eagerly anticipating
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  Speaker 1: the double header down there and Sodo as the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: will play the Red Sox Friday night, and of course
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  Speaker 1: more attention paid to US Australia. So yeah, it's been
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  Speaker 1: a great success. Keep it up, ay, ready, keep it
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  Speaker 1: up now. Don't go out there and do something stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody be kind, everybody support, everybody welcome, everybody, have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody went hung Let's enjoy this. Let's keep it going
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  Speaker 1: because so yeah, because thumbs up to the entire operation
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  Speaker 1: to this point. All right, let's find out what's on
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  Speaker 1: tap for the rest of the show today. What's on tip?
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  Speaker 1: What's on tap?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 1: US Australia will be Friday at six o'clock. The headlines,
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  Speaker 1: the actual soccer headlines yesterday was favorite Spain played to
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  Speaker 1: a draw yesterday, which shocked everyone. Doesn't mean for the
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  Speaker 1: thirty eighth time in a week. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: soccer fans can be surprised by upsets when you are
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: constantly playing games that are one nothing to one, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're really running a little small margin for
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: error there, and so a draw for Spain against Cape Verde,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: which I had not heard of until yesterday, and so,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm pretty good at geography. So Spain plays to withdraw.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Belgium and Egypt also played to a draw yesterday here
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. France debuts against Senegal today, France the other
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: favorite here in the World Cup, and Argentina will take
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: on Algeria. So the anders Hearst household will be dressed
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in their baby blues today for Messi's World Cup debut
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. The Mariners return to the field
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: tonight after a day off. They'll take on the Baltimore Orioles.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert will be on the mound for US. Cameron Young,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: who kind of shoved it on us, excuse me, Brendan Young,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: who shoved it on us in Baltimore last week. We'll
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: get the start for the Orioles. The big story here though,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: is that cal Rawley is going to be back. He
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: is going to return from the injury list. He'll be
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in the lineup tonight, so that is amazing. Also, JP
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Crawford will be in the lineup tonight. It sounds like
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: as well there were a couple of moves yesterday that
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: included Patrick Wisdom being sent back down to Tacoma Domingo
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Gonzales being dfa'd, so a few more transactions will take place.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: They'll have to create some roster spots for Cal and JP,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: but no surprise there, and I think kind of an
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: exciting moment in the season to get both of your
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: leaders back at the exact same time in time for
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the Oriole Series. Meanwhile, there is some talk that the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: six man rotation, now that they've gone through it a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: couple of turns, is going to be scrapped, and that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the Mariners are coming close to announcing exactly how they're
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: going to proceed with the starting rotation. We'll talk about
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: all this with Ryan Healey today at nine o'clock. College
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: World Series Oklahoma four to three winners over Georgia. Alabama
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: was eliminated from the College World Series yesterday, so the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: doubleheader today will both be elimination games in Omaho, West
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Virginia versus Troy at eleven AM, and the in Georgia
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and Texas having a rematch they will play the evening affair.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Whoever loses those two games is out of the tournament.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: The NHL and NBA seasons, of course, are both over.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes is going to join us for one final
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: time this playoff season to put a rap on the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: NBA season. He'll be with us today at seven o five.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: The Kraken people are wondering how froggy they're feeling about
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: getting their offseason started. Is expected to be quite an
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: active offseason from our local hockey team. We'll talk about
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that a little bit later on in the show. Giannis
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Ante Tecumpo is probably going to be traded in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: next few days, but there seems to be a hold up.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Apparently the Bucks aren't getting the offers that they expected
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to get for their superstar player. But still he is
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: expected to be traded between now and the draft, which
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is in just seven days. That's right next Tuesday. I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: don't mess around in the NBA, so as the regular
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: season's over, they have their draft. US Open Week will
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: dive into that starting tomorrow. Not a lot of on
• 21:00
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• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Soorsby has decided I don't want to do this anymore.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: He is not going to try and return to Texas
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Tech with all the legal stuff trying to keep him
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: from continuing his collegiate career. So the Texas Tech quarterback
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: has officially entered the NFL Supplemental Draft, which is a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: fascinating topic in and of itself. We'll discuss that a
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: little bit later on this hour, and we will continue
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: our Seahawks one series today. They're great. Walter Jones is
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: going to be with us today at eight o'clock as
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: part of our Seahawks one series. I have a feeling
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: who he's going to break down, and I have a
• 21:42
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• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a couple of times this year. So Walter Jones will
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: join us today at eight o'clock as part of our
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Seahawks one series. That's one local analyst breaking down one
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: key Seahawk player for one entire interview. We did this
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: exercise yesterday with our own Hugh Millin. If you didn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: care at it, we'll replace some of his thoughts on
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold next. That's right, it's Hugh QB one on
• 22:06
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• 23:00
  Speaker 4: S. Greay.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Morning to you all seven o'clock hour here on this Tuesday. Yes,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: World Cup action right here on Seattle soil yesterday. Gorgeous setting,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: stadium look fantastic, oh man, filling it up with all
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: those Belgium red shirts look fantastic yesterday. Just a great
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: setting for the world's biggest sporting event to be hosted
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: here in Seattle for the first time. And we got
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a droll wellcing it to drool out of it. Fox
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Sports with the highlights there. One won the final between
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Belgium and Egypt, and so the World Cup does continue.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: There were actually four matches yesterday in the World Cup
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: in four different venues, and all of them ended in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a draw.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: All four.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: All four you don't say yeah, including Spain, which is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: in a lot of people's opinion the favorite. But Spain
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: played to a droll against Cape Verde yesterday, so not
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of not a lot of solutions yesterday, just
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a bunch of we'll call it a draws.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was one game that was a two to
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: two draws, so at least they got to see four goals.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: But then yes, Spain cape Verde zero zero nil nil.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: As they say, yes, it was still apparently very exciting.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Well no, not really. France debuted versus Senegal. They will
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: do that today. Argentina also debuts today as well, against Algeria.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Mariners return to the field tonight against the Baltimore Orioles.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It'll be Logan Gilbert against Brandon Young, who was terrific
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: against US last week in Maryland. Hopefully we get a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: different result. Of course, the biggest story involving the Mariners
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the return to the lineup of Cal Raley, who is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: going to be activated from the injury list, and then
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the lineup tonight JP Crawford, same thing holds true for him.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Of course, JP only missed ten days where Cal miss thirty,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: so obviously we are all eagerly anticipating the return of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: cal Rawley to the Mariners lineup. College World Series continues today.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: A couple of elimination games. West Virginia and Troy playing
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for their College World Series lives. Georgia and Texas will
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: have a rematch with the same thing at stake. Meanwhile,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma and North Carolina are the two teams sitting pretty
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: both to and oh so far. In Omaha and Kraken,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: their season came to a close, but talk about how
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna wait very long into this offseason to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: make some trades. We'll talk about that a little bit
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: later on in the show. US Open Week this week,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: make sure you're participating in the Major Golf Challenge And yes,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks one series continues today at eight o'clock with
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the legendary Walter Jones, so make sure you're tuned in
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: for that at eight o'clock. Right now, another legend joining
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: us on the radio program to put a rap on
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: our NBA playoff coverage, our NBA Playoff analysts for each
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of the last two years. And hopefully, you know, hopefully
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: he's calmed down a little bit. You know, seemed like
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the nerves are a little afraid, maybe a little anger
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: was a little ramped up the last time we spoke
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to him. Since his buddy Mitch Johnson got deprived of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: an NBA championship, and so joining us on the program
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: is local basketball legend Spencer Halles.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: How are you, man, Good morning. I'm doing well.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You're doing all right now?
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I'm processing it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still in processing.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: There are stages.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I forget the stages of grief, but going through one
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You're going through one of them. So you're still having
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a hard time getting over this. Huh.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: It's to be that close.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: And you know that the seventy two percent or whatever
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it was of the series that you have the lead
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and then get gentlemen swept.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: It's just it's it's not sating.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Wow, what what exactly did go wrong? What as far
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: as you could tell, was keeping the Spurs from hole
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: holding leads? Was it more what the Knicks were doing
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: or was it more of what the Spurs weren't doing
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: down the stretch.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: It's always a combination. But the thing I look back
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: at that really was the one you knew it was
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: going to be hard to come back from the Game
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: four in New York. Just the decision making on the
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: shot selection down the stretch by a lot of their guys,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: and I don't think Wemby was exempt from it as well,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: just time and score. It's everyone's sucked about the inexperienced,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the inexperienced, the inexperience. I buy that to a certain extent.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I think by the time you get through knocking off
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the defending champs to go to the finals, I think
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I think the experience that you gained from that. You know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Parker wasn't a rookie by the end, Castle wasn't a
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: second year guy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Those guys that had grown beyond that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: But it just shows you when you run into a
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: team like the veteran nick that have that collective kind
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: of shared experiences going back to college and winning at
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the highest level there, it's that can that can make
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: a make up for a lot, and certainly a talent
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: discrepancy that I don't think anyone would argue with.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't mean to pile on him because
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I always have liked him as a player all the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: way going back to Kentucky. But the one guy that
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: seemed like he wanted to take the shot was the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: one guy who couldn't make anything, and that was Darren Fox.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: How do you think he's wearing this after a couple
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of lackluster games in Game four and five.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Wlackluster is a bit of an understatement. I can't imagine
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: he's he's having the best week.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: He can always just do the lebron and go ahead
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: and look at call his agent up and look ahead
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: at the money he's got coming over the next four years.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that's going to help him at
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: this point either. I mean, that's a tough one. I've
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: never I can't remember seeing a guy, especially a guy
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: as talented and productive as him, go on the sort
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: of continued cold streak. You know, you see it for
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a game or two, but just to keep trying and
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: keep missing. I know it didn't make a lot of
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: us happy, and I can't imagine it's sitting very well
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: with him either, A.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Right Spencer Hawes's with it's putting a rap on the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: NBA playoffs, the NBA Finals. Have you spoken to your
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: friend Mitch Johnson since how's he doing?
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I have not. I'll let that one breathe a little bit.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, all right, but how do you knowing him the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: way you do? How do you think he responds to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: all of this? It's still a young team with a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: very bright future. But this this tastes I mean, blowing
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: four double digit leads in one NBA finals, I am
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: curious how long it does linger with this group. What
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: will Mitch do to make sure that he pushes it out?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean he's he's going to be fine. I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: think I'm not. I'm not worried about him. You know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: this fundamentally altering him. I think he's got enough. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: know he's got enough balance in his life that he'll
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: be able to move past this. But he is going
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: to grow from it. And I think that's the opportunity
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: that they all have collectively, is if if they would
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: have won this one and it would have come seemingly
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: as easy as it came for them up up until
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the finals, that's tough to course correct going forward when
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: things start going sideways. So I think this gives everybody
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: on that team an opportunity, from the rookies to Mitch
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and the rest of coaching staff. It's going to force
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: the front office to probably look into making some changes
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: to try and bolster the areas where they have weaknesses
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: on the roster. So everybody's going to get better from this,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and I think that's the blessing in the skies when
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: you get so close and as i'd imagine they feel,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: have something ripped away. Everyone's got to take a look
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: in the mirror and everyone's got to grow from it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: One last thing on the Spurs, and then I want
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to shed some light on the Knicks, because obviously they
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit here in winning the NBA Championship.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But you know, I wasn't overly impressed with the way
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Wimby kind of conducted himself. I mean, at age twenty two,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I'll get him a little pass on. Haven't been here before,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: haven't done this before. But he was at times with
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the media, certainly maybe even with the officials, kind of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: straddling that disrespect line. I don't want this guy to
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: end up being a heel or a villain in the NBA.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: He's just there's too much you like about him. So
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: what is it that you saw from Wimby? And and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: do you see any warning signs that Mitch might have
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: to deal with here to get him on the right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Path so he will become a heel. That's inevitable.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: That's just the arc of the superstar in sports and
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: what we like to do as fans, but he's got
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: he's got to win one first and then people got
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: to get sick of him, and then then he can
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: become the heel. But I agree with you. I thought
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I thought that for a guy that's been so polished
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, every what you see is what you get,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: it's not too good to be true. And that's been
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: my experience from you know, from everyone around around him
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: that knows him better. And I don't I'm not saying
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: he's not the guy that he's portrayed as. I think
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: he is an incredible young man, but he saw his
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: immaturity come out on the court and then I think,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: especially after that Game seven, off the court.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: But once again, he's he's twenty two.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: He's got a spotlight on him like few humans in
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the world, at least at this juncture, do, and I
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: think he kind of reached his breaking point both on
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: and off the court over the course of these playoffs.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: And I think after that press conference that was a
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: little bit of the culmination, and I bet I would
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: be willing to imagine once the dust settles, his team's
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: going to get to work on correcting that and making
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: sure that he handles things differently going forward.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Spencer Oss is with us right here. He's been
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: with it throughout the NBA Playoffs for a second year
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in a row. Outstanding analysis of the NBA Finals, the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: entire NBA Playoffs, and our final conversation within this NBA season.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Knicks. I mean, how big is
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the pair on Jalen Brunson. I mean it might be
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest and in NBA history. I mean,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that guy is unbelievable in the fourth quarter of basketball games.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I'm trying, I mean, I can't really describe it. I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: trying to think back, who's a comparable, and I see
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of AI. To me, this is no disrespect
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: to AI. The game was played differently, but he's so
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: much more efficient and especially with his ability is pree
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: point line. But what a fun player to watch, not
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: necessarily if you're rooting to the other team, but the
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: way that the way that he just kind of kept going.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: You know, the first three four games of that series,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: his his numbers weren't they were. His numbers were good,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: his efficiency was not. It seemed like Castle found something
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: that he wasn't gonna stop him, but he could slow
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: him down, he could make sure the other guys didn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: get going, and then it was kind of like all
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: hell broke loose and in that game five. But credit
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: to him, Credit to the Knicks. If they weren't New
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: York and they if they weren't a team from New
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: York and they weren't playing for the Spurs, they'd be
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: about the easiest non local team to root for.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I think you could find.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, guys, that a lot of underdogs,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: guys that are fun to watch.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: A coach that was like their.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Fourth choice to be their coach this year and then
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: ends up voicing Larry O'Brien. There's a lot of positive
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: storylines that team and personalities. It's just it says New
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: York on their jersey and that makes it kind of
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: hard to hard to cheer for.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Well, and then all the goofball celebrities, you know, acting
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like idiots on the front row didn't help matters either.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm alright with Nick fans who love basketball
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: finally getting rewarded fifty three years of passion, But man,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: that was quite the circus that they were putting on
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden. But you're right, it distracts you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: from how likable the actual players on the Knicks are
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and what a great story that this was and it
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: culminated with a championship. Spencer OSS's with it. So can
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: they do it again? Or do you put san Antonio
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: as the favorite for next year? Do you put Okay
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: c Is a favorite for next year? Can anybody else
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: get into this picture next year?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I think I'm taking the field. I don't think that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I think the stars had to align to a certain
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: extent for the Knicks. Not to take anything away from
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: from what they've done. They're the champs, they earned it,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: they deserve it, and they're celebrating it. But you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: you got Okay see in a position where you can
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: never say they have to get desperate. But for the
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: first time probably in a while, they're gonna have to
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: start thinking about maybe shaking things up. And that's that's
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: a wild guard because you know, Pressy's not gonna make
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: them worse. The Yannice Boston Miami excuse me, Clippers, whatever
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: three way trade the rumors are going. That's you wouldn't
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: think he's going to a team that's not trying to
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: compete for a championship. That be he being y honest.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: The Spurs, they might have to start thinking about being
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: making a move. And all those young guys aren't gonna
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: get any worse. I mean, Nuggets are probably gonna relow.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: You got teams that aren't just going to sit around
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: and stay idle. I think the league's already positioning themselves
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: to how can we combaut Wemby I saw okay, so
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: he's rumored to be taken, or trying to position themselves
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: to take the kid Mara from Michigan, another seven to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: three guy to try and slow him down. So I
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say the Knicks. I think they'll be in the
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: top four, top five of favorites. But there's been so
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: much parody in the league the last decade or so,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: which has been a lot of fun to watch after
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: the Warriors kind of wrecked it for a while.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Did you watch the playoffs at all differently? And maybe
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: your friendship with Mitch just sort of overrode everything, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the Sonics and us feeling like we're closer to that
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: happening than ever before. Arguably, did you watch the NBA
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: playoffs this year a little differently with that in the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: back of your mind? That it might not be that
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: long before we're watching NBA basketball here again in Seattle.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I did. My wife and I were
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: talking about how stressful basketball is when you care about
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: what you really care about the outcome, and I think
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: that was how I tried to kind of think put
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: in perspective watching the Spurs. It's the first time in
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: a while that a basketball team, you know, I've been
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: this and invested in, and I think that it's hard
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: not to kind of start thinking forward and say, man,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: can you imagine if this were the Sonics and and
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: you know, we could you don't not have to get
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: on a four hour flight to go watch the playoff games.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: So it's it's hard not to let that creep in.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to be as patient as possible, but
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I'm o my heart's kind of running out of it.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well they better not pull the rug now.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that's going.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: To do to people, because I'm worried about I'm worried
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: about Portland. Yeah, what the what that guy's doing down there?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: And uh MBA media is trying as hard as it
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: can to hold him accountable, but I'm worried it's just
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of Clay Bennett stink playwork on what's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: going on down the road on I five.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. Well man, it's been a
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: fun ride with you. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Great stuff. And uh and and we loved the Spencer
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Mitch friendship we got to know about here the last
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: few weeks. So uh, don't be a stranger. I'm sure
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: we'll be bugging you soon. But again, thanks a million
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: for everything.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. But last thing, who won the
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Who won the challenge?
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should mention that? Should Yeah? Yeah,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, you won you one? Yeah, I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: bring it up every time and yeah, like you're like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you brought it up every week and now you're not
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: going to mention it when I actually did win.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that kind of a one green jacket draft and
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: he wins it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, your investment and the spurs paid off. Even
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: with Dearon Fox playing as poorly as he was down
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the stretch, he's still got you a lot of points.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So you had three hundred and twenty seven points from him.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Your team of wimby Donovan Mitchell, Jyalen Williams and dearon Fox.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: You beat me by sixty three points.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Congratulations Jaylen Williams. Jalen Williams didn't give me much. Can
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: you imagine if I had a healthy roster.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could imagine. Yeah, you would have been better.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like he's rubbing it in now, kind of
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: like it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta celebrate the wins when you get him.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, the trophies on the way. All right, look
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: in the.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Mail, thank you, thank you. All right.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: in the morning. I was actually gonna celebrate that we
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: have a green jacket draft tomorrow for the US Open.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: But yes, I should have brought that up.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I should have.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to have Spencer come
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: on the show with us tomorrow, so I needed to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: celebrate his championship with him right there. So there you go,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes won our NBA Playoff preview green jacket draft.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: All right.
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• 42:02
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• 42:07
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• 42:10
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  Speaker 1: Every single day, we break down one key Seahawk player
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• 42:33
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• 42:42
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• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Walt.
• 42:44
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• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I'm doing good man. How you guys doing?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We're doing great. How you been? How's your spring going?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Are you ready for summer?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I'm ready for summer and I'm ready for some football too, though,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like you that is, and you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: every time you get to this point, start smelling the
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: grass cut. You know it's getting close to football season.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: You know, the NBA Finals are over with. You know,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: you can you can watch some other sports. But I
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: think everybody's now is getting ready, you know, for the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: football season and see what's gonna happen this year. So
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. I'm down in Florida right
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: now and join the Sun, So I'm looking forward to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: getting back to Seattle.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Are you watching any of the world capital Are you
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: into that?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely into it, you know, just to see the specter.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I think that you know, you saw it when it's
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: played other places. But just to see that it's played
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: here and seeing the turnout, you know, just that the
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: amount of fans for all the team from everywhere that
• 43:36
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• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I was watching again yesterday and in the in the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: in the seat in the sea in the Seattle stadium.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: That you have to say, but I think it was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: pretty amazing.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: So I think just to see it and seeing how
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: how crazy is going to be probably this Friday in Seattle,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a sight to see.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll let you say looming Field on this show
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: if you like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fun. We
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: haven't even chatted with you since the team won the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So before we get into our Seahawks one
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: series breakdown, just your thoughts during that amazing ride to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl championship.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I think it was amazing. I think the cool thing
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: about this whole thing. You know, you heard all the chatter,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: but I felt like the Seahawks with the team that
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: stayed quiet and went out there and got the job done,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: you know, And I think that's what makes her fun.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: You know, everybody going this ride.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I think now the standard have been set here in
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Seattle where we know what what is winning football, what
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: that looks like. You know, I think that's great for
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the fans and we kind of see what we got
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: going on. This is a very young group of guys
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: that then came together and won a Super Bowl. Now,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: you know, you always have this vision of how long
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: this can line. But I think and what they was
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: able to do last year, what coach has been able
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to do since he's been here, you know, to change
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the coach are again and still put us up on
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the top there holding the trophy. So I think, you know,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: this team got a lot to do and a lot
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: to show in the next couple of years.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: It was nice not to have a football season where
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the offensive line was constantly being criticized because I think
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: since your group, the poor offensive line has just gotten
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: beat up and bruised by the fan base, and in
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of years deservedly so. So wasn't it nice
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: to have a year where the narrative, the conversation wasn't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: about the offensive line not being able to protect the quarterback.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I think all the time, I think any lineman as
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you hear that conversation and you don't want that label anyway.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: But I feel like what they have done here in
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the last what four years, with how they drafted the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: offensive line, you know, that's where you started.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: And I think as when.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: He came when coach McDonald came in here, he started
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: from the inside out. And I think for you, you
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: can you can look at all the great teams, all
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the teams that had runs. You know, they had linemens
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that was together, that stayed together, and that's where you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: start at. So if you're gonna if that's where you're
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: gonna put your beef at and where you're gonna put
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: everything at to the builders team, that's where you see
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: when it happens faster than any other any other position.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: So it does feel good that these.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Guys that got out there and figured it out and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: they didn't want it at a high level at a
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: very young age. So that tells me that they're going
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to have the drive to want to continue to be great.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to them to continue to keep,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you know, being there in the hunt every year.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: The great Walter Jones with us here today as part
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: of our Seahawks One series. One local analysts bring it
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: we better get into the gist of it. Uh, And
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: we are, of course, we are going to go with
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the left tackle Charles Cross with Walter Jones. Sorry, don't
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: mean to tight cast you, but it seems appropriate that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you discuss our left tackle with us, especially considering what
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the Rams have done this offseason in adding Miles Garrett
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: at that at that defensive end position. That happens to you.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Your rival adds a great pass rusher and you know
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he's going to be he's signing signing up on your
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. What is your reaction if you'r
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Charles Cross when you get the news that the Rams
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: have added Miles Garrett to their defensive line.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I think you thinking about it like, man, I got
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: a block him twice a year. But I think that's
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: an alignment. I think that you want that competition. I
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: think you're you're getting paid like the top tier offensive linement,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: so you want that competition. You want to see if
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: you worth the money and you're going out there and
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: blocking the top guys. So but you know nowadays now
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: with defenses and defensive ends, they move those guys all
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: over the field.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: You know, they try to find the weak link. You know.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: It's not like back when I was playing, where you
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: win against that guy, we count we canceled each other out.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: So it's just all about how they scheme and try
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: to get him out there. But I feel very confident
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: in what Charles could do when you go out on
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the field. I think Charleston went against this guy already,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: so he kind of understand what he's going against. But
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: we understand the competition that the Rams are bringing to us,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and I think Charles is ready for the opportunity.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: What was your general rule when you were facing one
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: of the greats, like an elite pass rusher. I mean,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they all had different traits and talents, and
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you had to do your scouting and your film study,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: But what was your general rule when you went up
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: head to head against one of the best pass rushers
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: in the league.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: For me personally, just study the guys and every guy
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: is differently have the way they pass rush. But for
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: me personally, as offensive lineman's coaches always try to teach
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: us to try to get get on them, close the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: space between those guys as quickly as possible.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: So now now they're in a battle.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: These guys always want to do is rush the quarterback
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: and get to the quarterback. They don't want all the
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: contact the body laying on themselves. For me personally, I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: try to get my body on that guy as fast
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: as I can. That mean jump setting this guy or
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: whatever to slow him down, to put him in a
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: fight before he started doing all his speed stuff and
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: spinning around. I want to get my hands on him
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: so I can kind of slow him down.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Well, is Charles cross up for it? Is he ready
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: for it? His growth, his development over the years, where
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: he's at right now in his career as a talent,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Is he ready for the challenge of Miles Scarrett two
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: times a year?
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Oh definitely.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's He's a typical office a lineman because
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of times you get a linement that's six
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: seven sixty five. But you got and I'm thinking Charles
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: about that side. But still again, you got to look
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: at him that he have a long waist. He have
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: a long waist for short legs, so he had great
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: knee being. So I tell him he's gonna have a
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: great cause he's gonna be able to get up on
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: the males gau Miles Garrett because you know, he's a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: bigger guy and he'd like to get low. So I
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: think for him that's gonna be great for him to
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: get in there and bring his knees and.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Get leverage on Miles. But I think he's ready for it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, if he's not, that's he's not
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: a professional athlete and don't want the competition. But I
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: think he's ready for it. I think the whole team is.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Ready for that, and I think it's going to take
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a whole team effort to block him and keep him
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: calm down throughout the game.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Well what did it mean to Charles Cross's career to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: add a first round talent and Gray Zabel? I mean,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I know you add Hutch, but you were great even
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: without Hutch. But what is it? What does it do
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to help a left tackles game to have a great
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: left guard.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I think that the cool thing about is that both
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: of you want to be great, and I think with
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: me and Hutch, and when you got in there, you
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: kind of know, you know, Gray's Abel was that type
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: of guy.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: You knew as soon as you saw him, you saw
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: his highlight.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: That guy gonna start day one, and now you got
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: a guy like charl Cross has been in the fire already,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: and you get a kid like him that comes in here.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: He's ready to play and own a super Bowl winning
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: team too. So all you can do is saying that
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: these guys are going to be great together for a
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: long time. And I think with offensive linement, that's what
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: you need to try to keep these guys together, keep
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: that experience and all that stuff together. And now you
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: go out there on the field now, especially if you've
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: got a guy right beside you that understands the game
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: and know how to block the game, and that makes
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the game so much easier when you're you're playing along
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: side of guys that got the same driver as you,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: that want to go out there and have complete of
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: great place every time they ball this snap.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: How much better were you in Hutch your second year
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: together versus the first, uh?
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Ten times better because it was more of the first year.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: The first year was all about getting to know each
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: other and how we want to play the game, how
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: we want to block defense. And then we got to
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: the next year and that we didn't really have to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: communicate when we was on the line of screaming and
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: we saw the defense and we knew what we were doing,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: so I didn't have a lot of time with defensive guys.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: They listened to the guys cadence and listen to their
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: calls and then they can pick those calls up. You
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: get mid season, everybody got the same kind of combination blocked.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: But it's all about how you say them so we'll
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: know what they're doing. So for me personally, if you
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: can get to the line of scrimmage and you don't
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: have to say a lot of words, now the defense
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: got to try to figure out what you're trying to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: do well.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: What uh In Walter Jones' estimation, I'm going to ask
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you to be critical of Charles Cross. What do you
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: see that he could still improve upon? What does Charles
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Cross have to do to be the next Walter Jones?
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I think what he had to do is just continue
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: to get get better every year.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I think for him, UH still continually UH work on
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: his past rush hits, his pass blocking. I think every
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: lineman that's every year, that's something that you want to
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: improve on, you know, because you don't even though a
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: guy is not if you're not giving up SATs, you
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: definitely don't want the pressures off. You don't want a
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: defense in your quarterback face or even just touching your quarterback.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: So I think for him personally, just to consistently keep
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: making Sam Donald feel safe in the packing. I think
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: that's a left tackle. That's what you want to do.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: That's not a lot. I think it's just a matter
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: of staying focused and still want to grind. You know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: everything is happening. You know, you don't got a contract
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: or you don't want a super Bowl. It's just a
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: matter are you going to go out there and still
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: have the same drive that you had last year to
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: see can we can we do something even special that
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: we did last year? And they'll be great. You know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: every every time you win like this and you with guys,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: you know, you just get better. You understand the game
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: even more, the game could easier and come fun. So
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I think for him person just to decentially get better
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: every year and those little things, you know, consistent, stay
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: with the little things, and you know he's gonna be fine.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You know, when you get a new offensive coordinator, you know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: everybody talks about how it's going to affect the quarterback
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, and then you wonder is JSN gonna
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: be used as much? Are gonna run as much as
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: what you did a year ago? How does it impact
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: an offensive line group to change offensive coordinators from one
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: year to the next.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's all about terminology, you know what I'm saying.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: It's all about what the what the what Their offensive
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: coordinators bring it to the table and understand what he's
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: working with. You know, I think it's all about your quarterback.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I think with the things that Donald have done here
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: in the last year and have you know here in Seattle,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I think he kind of commands the offense. So I
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: think that hopefully that they understand the great things that
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Sam Dollar can do and what this offensive line can do.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you want to you want to still continually
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: use that whether where they're great at and right now.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: You kind of saw that in the playoff run that
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: they had figured out how to run block and run
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: block consistently, you know what I'm saying, Not saying they
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't doing it early in the season, but you kind
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: of saw that run right there in the last where
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: now everybody's getting to that block, everybody getting to the secondary,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and then that's when you see all these breakout runs.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: So I think that these guys are gonna, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: continue to get better. And I think the offensive COORDINATORD
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: is gonna understand these guys and continually keep using the
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: things that make them great and make them look good
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: on the football field.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: How special could this team be, Walt, I mean.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I think this team canna be specially for a minute.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I think right now, we have to look
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: at what what Donald was doing. You know, he didn't
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: want fourteen games in the last two years, so you know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: you have to take your hat off on him. You know,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: everybody know all the the old stuff and the things,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: you know, seeing ghosts and stuff like that. I think
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: now I think he got it. I think you got
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: a downpack. So you know, I think that's where it
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: started at. You start out with your quarterback and what
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: your quarterback is all about. And I think this is
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: his team, the quarterback, This is his team. This is
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: his city right now. So I think this team, you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: if they stay consistent and stay hungry, this team can
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: be good for probably another two to three years where
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: they consistently going to try to win.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Us someoner bow.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Well, what are your plans for this football season. I mean,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I trust that you've worked on your contract with King five.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Are we going to see more of Wall Jones this fall?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Definitely? I'll be back this year for King five. I
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: tell people all the time, I really enjoy it. I
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: really get a chance to, you know, learn from a
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: different perspective of getting a chance to meet these guys
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: on that type of level.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: It's pretty cool.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: So you get a chance to talk to these guys
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and kind of see what these guys are all about
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: and how they move, how they are motivated. So, yes,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: I'll be back. And you know what I'm saying, You're
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: part of something great now. Are you part of a
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: team that's out there that's consistently winning, and now you
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: get a chance to be in the stadium every time
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: they play and seeing that they're being great. So I'm
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: looking forward to this year with King fifth Water and
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: it should be fun.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Well, Paul Sylvie, that's the reason why he still lifts
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: weights is justin casey he ever has to get in
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: a scrap with you. I think that he wants to
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: make sure that he's you know, he's got a little
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: bit of sand in his pants. I think Walt, I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: You never know, Feu will you're in the studio.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Well, good luck, Paul, good luck with that. All right, man.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Awesome to hear from you, great stuff, great breakdown. We
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, and we look forward to seeing you soon.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks a lot.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: All right, the great Walter Jones joining us right here
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck in the morning, Hall of Fame,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: left tackle. Who else should we grab? Yeah, he's a
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: media member, he's one of us. Now, how about that?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Wald and I are very similar.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: You guys are basically the same person.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Pretty much the same kind of a list of accomplishments.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, different things, but pretty close, just as meaty.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: But now we're pretty much just two peas in a
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: pod now operating in this media world. So great to
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: have him on, and of course we wanted him to
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: break down Charles Crossword. That was outstanding. I mean, he
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: gets better at this every year. He remember he used
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: to be with us here at kJ R and Coach Holgren.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Every time you ever heard him was like, I cannot
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: believe you're getting Walter to talk. I was around him
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: for years and I could not get him to talk
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: to me. So to hear him make his make a
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: little not his living, but to be a part of
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the media was kind of stunning. Coach always pointed it
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: out to us. But he just keeps getting better at
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: it every year, keeps getting slicker at it. And and
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: that was outstanding breakdown from him on Cross and what
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: really stood out if you're just now joining us, I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: asked him about how much better he and Hutch got
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: in year number two. I think maybe we, you know,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: tend to forget that. Gray's Abel and Charles Cross. That
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: was our first date, you know, that was their first
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: time playing together. And for Walter to say, oh, we
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: were a million times better the second season than what
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: we were, I think he said one hundred one hundred
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: times better the second season than what we were the
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: first season together.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: Oh he said ten ten times better, ten times ten
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: times better. I knew it was a big number, but yes,
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: he maxed it out. I'll say that, so ten times
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: better the second season than he was in the first
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: season with Hutch.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: So how exciting is that? Because Cross and Zabel obviously
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: were the best left guard left tackle combo that we've
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: seen in a while. I'm not going to name any names,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: but best we've seen in a while it's the least
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: amount of complaining that we've done about the left side
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of our offensive line since I got here, and that's
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: eleven seasons now, and so for Walt to say, oh,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen anything yet, I mean, these guys were
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: just getting to know each other a year ago, same
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: way with Hutch and I that first year. By the
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: second year, you know, we kind of we didn't even
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: have to really verbally communicate. We just knew what the
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: other person was going to do. So that bow's really well,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: that's a really exciting little tidbit to come out of
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that conversation with Walter Jones.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that made me excited, thinking like, okay, that, yeah,
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: just their own relationship. I mean, let alone their skills, right,
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: but their own relationship will help them both improve so much.
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: I look forward to that.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Miles Garrett in the division now, we're.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: Not even afraid.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: No big deal. You just got to put your body
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: on him, That's what Walter says. You just got to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: muscle him up. Just put your weight on him, get
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: your hands on him, body him up. Yeah, that's it,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: no big deal. He's just a man.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just a man.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: If you prick him. Does he not bleed? Yeah? So yeah,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: just get get your hands on him and prick him.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah or maybe not. Yeah, we could get penalized for that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: You might, you might, you know, but you're never gonna
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: know until you try. Be willing to do whatever it.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: That's the point. I'd like to have a left tackle
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: that tried hard. All right. Coming up next on the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: radio program, it is time for the ABC's of the MS. Oh,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I got some juicy stuff for you today from the
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Alphabet on Sports Radio ninety three point three K A
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: R F M. Get more at sunset and people do
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: like that. Time for the ABC's of the MS. Here
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: on Chucking Buckets, our Daily Mariners segment, we use the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: alphabet as our guide, so we're not just doing the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: same old tired askue topics that everybody else does. The
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: alphabet chooses them for us and so we run through it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: We get to start anew today right at the top
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: of the alphabet. A. Yeah, we're gonna start with a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: today at the top of the alphabet. This time around.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: A is for Anderson, as in Kate Anderson, mister Anderson.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Kate Anderson is kind of putting a little fly in
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: this ointment right now, the Mariners are having a conversation
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: do we stick with the six man rotation or not
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: going forward, and there might be somebody in the room
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: that says, of course, we're not going to We're going
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: to go to a seven man rotation. Oh my god,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: that's how good Kate Anderson has been. I mean, Bill
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Krueger was on with us a few weeks ago and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: he said, there have been guys that have dominated like
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: this before in the minor leagues. I don't recall it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I don't in certainly in recent years.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Now that I follow minor league baseball a lot more
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: than what I used to, I've not seen this kind
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: of dominance at any level of the minor leagues. Kate Anderson,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: if you weren't aware, is our top prospect now that
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Colt Emerson's in the majors. But Kate Anderson might have
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: been the top prospect over Colt Emerson for goodness sake,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the way he's dominating the minor leagues this year. We
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: got him in the draft this year because we didn't
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: win the lottery, but because we weren't supposed to get
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that high of a pick. We sort of did win
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the lottery and we may have gotten the best player
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: in the draft. And here he sits in his first
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: full minor league season, first full professional season. Eleven starts,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: he's allowed seven earned runs. Eleven starts, seven earned runs.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Now he's not pitching six to seven innings a game
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: because they're trying to limit his innings so that it
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: will be available to the Mariners, the actual Mariners during
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the course of their playoff run in some capacity, So
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: they're limiting his innings. But that's a one point one
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: three er. Pretty good. Now, let's take out his one
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: outing that was off. He allowed five of his seven
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: earned runs in one game, so that means Kate Anderson
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't on his game. You take that out. Let's play
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the Russian judge here, we take out the low score
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: out of the Kate Anderson game law. He has allowed
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: two earned runs and fifty one and two thirds innings
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: a point three five ERA. He has struck out eighty
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: two batters and fifty five innings. He's allowed thirty hits
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: and fifty five innings. He's allowed seven walks and fifty
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: five innings. He has an eighty two to seven strikeout
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: to walk Ratio. I don't recall dominance like this from
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: a pitcher ever. Now I could be a prisoner of
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the moment. I didn't spend any time last night going
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: through the history of minor league pitchers to try to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: find out the last person that was this dominant. Here's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: the point, He's got nothing left to prove. I mean,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I realize he's a double A and not triple A,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: but there's nothing about triple A that's going to trip
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: this up. I mean, this dude's ready for the majors.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: There's nothing left to prove. He might be our second
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: or third best pitcher right now, and he's still in
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: the minor leagues as we're trying to get our season corrected. Now,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: we don't have anyone pitching so horribly that you would
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: remove them for Kate Anderson. But there have been some
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: people out there that have thrown out the possibility of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: introducing him into the bullpen since we do have a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: need for an arm right now with Matt Brash being down.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I have throughout the season called him the September South
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Paul because I think he's going to be in our
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: starting rotation by the time September rolls around. But right now,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: it's June, It's June Ashley, and he's already, without question,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: one of our five best starting pitchers in the organization.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: What do you do with that? Do you bump them
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: to Triple A just to make sure that he can?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I mean they they argue that, I mean, Triple A's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: just got more guys, older guys that are closer to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: major leaguers. But Double A's where all the talent is.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: That's usually where they store the best talent in the organization.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: So he's don dominating the most talented teams on every
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: minor league roster in the entire sport. He's ready to pitch.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: How he's going to do it when the Mariners are
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: going to activate him and what role they're going to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: activate him? And I don't know, I don't have the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: answer for that. But this guy's ready to contribute to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: a major league baseball team right now.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: And I know there's a lot of Mariners fans who
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: would obviously want to see him up here. But yeah,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: that's that's the crazy thing is to be in the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: position that we're in, where we've got six good pitchers
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: and such an issue already that this guy. It is
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: the problem of where does he fit in. I mean,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: obviously he will have a place that won't be a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: problem eventually, but at this point, yeah, I would think
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: going to Tacoma at least then if you want him,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: he's also closer.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: I mean he's right there.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe give him a taste. Yeah, mean he's obviously,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: it's like a it's like the second grader who's reading
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: at a junior and high school level. Right, it's like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: what more. I mean, he's going to get bored down there.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: That's why to say to at least you're giving them
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: a change of scenery. You're giving them a little bit
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: of a you know, not a promotion, but a boost up.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: He's oh, you know, at.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Least it's a different challenge I suppose. So maybe that's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: maybe one or two starts there. But I think you're
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: going to get the same results there. I mean, the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: way this guy's pitching right now, so he can't be
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: that far away. If he's far away at all from
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: being major league ready, and it'll be You're right, we
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: are already trying to figure out where do we put
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: six pitchers in a five man rotation? The six man rotations.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Did whatever decision they come up with, we're not going
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: to continue with a six man rotation. We're either going
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: back to the piggyback thing, or they're going to decide
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: one of those six guys is a bullpen piece now.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: And then you add Anderson to the equation, how does
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: he fit in? Where does he fit in? Who gets
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: shoved aside? If if he does slide into the starting rotation,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: it's a great problem to have, but man, it is
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: you do sit here and wonder, like, are we kind
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: of wasting all of those scoreless innings that we're getting
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: out of Kate Anderson in Arkansas right now? Could he
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: be doing that right now? For the major league club?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: It's going to be another fascinating story.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I'm pitched out bi us for bad luck. I mentioned
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: this at the tail end. Something gonna spend a lot
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: of time on this, but bad luck And that's what
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez is hitting into right now. And I want
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: to give him all the credit in the world because
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: he's not coming out of his plan. And sometimes especially
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: when you're young and he's got a few years of
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: experience now under that belt of his but especially when
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you're young and you are being told just stay up
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the middle, just stay up the middle, just do what
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: you're doing. I know you're not getting the results right now,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: but you're on the right track, and you just keep
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: lining into out after out. I mean, he's got to
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: lead the league and line drive up the middle ground
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: balls or line drives that are getting caught by a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: shortstop or second baseman that's just lined up right there
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: over the bag. He's got to be leading the league
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: in that. And in the last couple of games he
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: said line drives to the outfield. So he's not getting
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of luck. But I love his approach and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: if he does stick with it, if he does trust
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: that it will produce, it will produce. But it is
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: very easy for even a major leaguer to be like,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: this isn't working. I'm not getting hits. I got to
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: start hitting the ball over the wall, and then you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: get outside of the things that you're doing well, just
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: because you're frustrated with the results that you're seeing. But
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: to this point, he's not done that. And I give
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: him all the credit in the world for that, because
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: that's not easy.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: No, and especially I mean we've seen players, even on
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: this team. And we've seen Julio do that where he
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: gets up there in the ninth inning or in a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: pivotal game situation and he's trying to make a big
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: difference in swing for the fences.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: So to see that he has.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: Been able to maintain where he's at and his composure
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: and his you know, mental approach.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: To it is good. His mentals and his chicken.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: His mentals and his chickens.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Uh see, you might think is for chickens. It's not.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: Oh darn it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: You probably think, and it's for cal because Caleen returns.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: The alphabet says CE today is for Chapmans. The San
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Francisco Giants announced yesterday that Matt Chapman is available in
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: a trade. This is somebody the Mariners have wanted for
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: a while in Matt Chapman. Now, I don't think that
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: they wanted him at thirty million dollars a year, yeah,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: which he's making twenty five actually, but he signed a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: new deal with the San Francisco Giants that runs through
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty at twenty five million dollars per season. I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: don't think they won him at that price tag, but
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: they is somebody that they've wanted. He is somebody that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: would lock down the third base position. There's no doubt
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: you're getting a true, bonafide third baseman at that point
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: who plays at a goal club caliber. He's got a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: seven to sixty three ops this year, which is pretty good.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Plays with a red ass, which a lot of people like.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: A lot of managerial types like that type of player.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I think Dan would like that type of player on
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: his roster, a third base. There's a lot of things
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: to like about him. I actually kind of view him
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: as one of the most overrated players of the modern era.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I don't quite get the twenty five million dollars per
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: year Matt Chapman hype. I never really have. But in
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: terms of if money was not an issue, if you
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: weren't even thinking about the contract, would Matt Chapman make
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: sense solves third base, we don't have to worry about
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: it anymore. Yeah, it would, And I wouldn't rule that.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they would be interested because of
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: the contract, but I know that they've long been interested
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: in the player, and suddenly the Giants have made it
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: very well known that he's available. Come get it.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: You have to at least kick the tires around on
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: that one.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: You got to think about it, how to look at it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: And you know they're going to because they look at everything.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they will, they'll look at it. I don't
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll go there. I just don't think
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: he's a twenty five million dollar player. And by the way,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: if they did that to offset some of the costs
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: would go in that trade. Oh sorry, sorry to tell you. Uh.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And then the other I said Chapmans, I didn't say Chapman.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: See us for Chapmans. The other Chapman out there that
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: seems to be available on the trade market is Boston
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Red Sox closer, a rolled as Chapman. He is thirty
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: eight years old, and three years ago people thought he
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: was cooked. And yet last year he was the best
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: reliever in the sport and this year he is the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: best reliever in the sport not named Mason Miller. It's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: an aggressive move, but from a financial commitment standpoint, it's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: only one year thirteen, It's an expiring contract. Not gonna
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: cost you some big prospect in order to get him.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have a huge market once July rolls around.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: You can never have enough relievers that gets proven year
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: after year after year. I don't think he's a clubhouse
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: fit for anyone. So I certainly wouldn't say he's be
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: a clubhouse fit for the Mariners. But if you're just
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: looking for somebody that throws swing and miss stuff that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, even at age thirty eight, nobody can
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: touch him anymore. Again, Yeah, that's crazy that it went backwards.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: It's something to consider. I think it makes a lot
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: more sense than the other Chapman that we brought up.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: So the Chapmans are a couple of guys to keep
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: your eye on from now until July thirty. First, all right,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: coming up next, speaking of trades, it is trade season,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and this time it has nothing to do with the Mariners.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Baseball has a little bit more to do with that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: hockey team in town. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Oh,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: we need a little heally in our lives.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of things to discuss here about
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: this baseball team, a lot to discuss and most of it,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: believe it or not, Despite the recent the poor play
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: is really incredibly exciting and positive that we're going to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: get into with the former Mariner now part of Mariner's TV,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: and of course they would have never known about him
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: if not for Ashley and I. And he's been with
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: us for the last US season and a half. Every
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Tuesday here at nine o'clock, it is Ryan Healey joining
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: us here on Chuck and Buck. How are you man?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Good mood today?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: I wonder if there was just like the off day
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: Reset gave you and everyone else with the maritor is
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 7: a chance to you know, kind of digest and move
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: on from the road trip and got some big bodies
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 7: coming back.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Don't this week? I'll say, I'll say, and look at
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: us matching black teas man that we were thinking alike
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: this morning. All you get to wear is a black
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: tea and you're always matching with me.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: So just remember that every Tuesday Tuesday, Black tea Tuesday.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I love it already. All right, Well, let us start
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: because I do think I think we all a lot
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: of great topics to discuss, like positive topics to discuss,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: but let's start with the negative topic because I think
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of baseball fans have a really hard time
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: figuring out how teams could seem to be on track
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: have two exciting wins in Baltimore, and then over the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: course of the next five days, it just feels about
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: as gross as it could feel. And you know this.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: You've written one hundred and six the highs and lows
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: of one hundred and sixty two games schedule. You know
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: it's like to go in a slump and be hot
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: as a player slump and a hot as a team.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: So how are we supposed to feel about the last
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: five days that have been so grossly lackluster from this team.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this first and foremost.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: I look at the standings more now than I ever
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: did as a player, and I will confidently tell you
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: this from the perspective of the clubhouses, Guys aren't looking
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: at the standings of oh my gosh, we're only a
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: half game up from the Athletics now, and the Rangers
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 7: they've been pretty hot too, They're only a game and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: a half back.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Like that type of pressure.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: That I think fans are looking at, and I know
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: that I'm looking at too, so I'm guilty of it.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: I think that subsides a little bit. It's more of
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: the reality of man. That was a really tough road trip.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: Geographically speaking, the weather was pretty miserable, in Baltimore it
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: can get hot, human it's sticky, and then went to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: DC and the same combination there, the injuries that happened.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: It just felt like everything spiraled. Everything that could spiral
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: out of control did spiral out of control. Since that
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: walk off in Detroit that ended that first leg of
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 7: the trip. That obviously going to the four games in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: Boston and then the three in DC, it just felt
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: like things spiraled. And my frustration that I think a
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: lot of fans share is everyone felt like this was
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: a soft spot in the schedule. It was three teams
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 7: I under five hundred. It was a chance for the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: Mariners to create some separation in that Al West Division
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 7: and really start to allow kind of that separation in
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 7: that you know, flow state is the word that comes
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: to mind of.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Just like, oh, we're gonna win every day.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's just not realistic. Baseball reared its ugly
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 7: head and dealt that. This team dealt with a lot
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: of adversity over these last ten days.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Is there anything about the five days that you do
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: find troubling? I mean, beyond the injuries. Obviously we're worried
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: about the injuries, but we had a couple of starting
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: pitching performances that were uncharacteristic the bullpen to have to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: get to mid June and have to take two days
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: off from your bullpen to kind of reset things because
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: guys have been overused. The defense continues to be sloppy,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: particularly Josh Naylor of all people over at first base.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Is there anything about the last five days that is
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: particularly concerning to Ryan Heay.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: The bullpen or lack their of bullpen depth, I think
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: is concerning, and we are all waiting today to see
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: what the decision is gonna be, and maybe it's not
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: finalized today. The TBD starter for I believe it's Thursday's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: game of this week for the Mariners is a big
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: question mark that we're all quietly watching and waiting, maybe
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: not as quietly some but just waiting to see what
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: that transition is going to be. It's going to be
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: a really hard conversation with someone about what the transition
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 7: is because there are some non negotiables in this decision
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: making process that I think can help the Mariners, like
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: Bryce Miller has solidified himself and quite frankly, if the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: oblique injury didn't happen spring training, he never would have
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: been in the situation of the piggyback the starter surplus. Sorry,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: so quite frankly, I feel like he's come back, has
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: done his job in whatever role they'd asked, and he's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: executed at a high level.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: He deserves his own start at this point.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: But then the question goes down the ranks of does
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: someone else get put into the situation of the starter
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 7: surplus where you throw Cassio on the back end of
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 7: someone else's start to give you know, maybe some of
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: those guys a breathe and saying, hey, you've been struggling
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: to get past the fifth or sixth inning, Let's just
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: give you a concrete five today.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: This is your ceiling.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: We're going to put a cap on what you're able
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: to accomplish today, and let's just get your body back healthy.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: So the combination of obviously how the bullpen injuries of
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 7: unraveled with Chris Well and Brash going down, Munno's coming
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: out with we think the back being sore, hoping you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: get some more answers today with the pre batting practice
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 7: press conference as well the injuries to the arms. Though
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 7: we knew this was going to be a tough stretch,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 7: how they respond and make adjustment going forward, I'm really
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: interesting to watch.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller and Luis Castillo are arguably the two most
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: easy going guys on the entire roster, maybe in all
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: of Seattle. And yet if you tried to piggyback someone
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: else tightly wound George Kirby, who's not pitching his best,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: not pitching as well as Castillo right now, or you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: dare do it to Brian wu who said in his
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: postgame comments after his last outing, I'm tired of sucking.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you tried to go back to the piggyback,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: but you tried it with two other guys, how do
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: you think that would go over with the group?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: I hope better than the first go around, because obviously
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 7: there was a lot of feelings around it. My guess
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: is that it would go over better because there is
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 7: some understanding of what it looks like from the player's
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: perspective and how those adjustments, you know, honestly worked.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of success.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 7: The performance was great for both of those starters, and
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: they went through that starter surplus, you know cycle, and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 7: then everyone was waiting for the six man rotation to
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: see how that was going to play out, and we
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: just got unfortunately a pretty brutal glimpse of reality of
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 7: what that looks like when the bullpen depth is just
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: less than and then also you lose some leverage arms.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure how they would handle that. My brain
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: immediately goes to, Unfortunately, like the player where you are
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: individually in your career, and none of those other three
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: guys of you know, obviously Kirby, Gilbert and Wu, none
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: of those guys have a long term established contract, so
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: financially they're not like secure for a long period of time.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: So now you're thinking about arbitration and then value that
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 7: goes into that arb tration case and the money that
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: could be lost in there if all of a sudden
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 7: they don't start a game or if they don't get
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: to a certain inning limit. And I also know Castillo
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: has an option after next season which is vested off
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: of I believe there's a certain amount of inningcs to hit.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: So if he now steps out of that starter role,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: now that vesting option in that money that he thought
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: he could earn kind of adjust. So like there's personal,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 7: you know, trickle down effect that can happen here on
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: the earning side. Because this is a business not just
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: for the team, but also for the players of maximizing
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: your value, and if it ends up going there with
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: their mindsets of the things that they're worried about, it
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: takes it away from this team that I know wants
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 7: to accomplish more than they did last year.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Ryan Heley is whether it's Targets and Mariner Baseball, we
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: do it every Tuesday at nine o'clock with the former Mariner.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent with you. Not only does
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller stay and whatever wrote, I don't care it's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: three man rotation. I don't care. He's one of our
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: best pitchers right now, maybe the best right now. I
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: would also ask you about Kate Anderson. Do we need
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a seven man rotation?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Ryan?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I went through the numbers. You take out
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: the one bad start he had. He's given up turn
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: runs in fifty one and two thirds innings down in
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Double A Arkansas. What else does he need to prove
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: before he becomes a major leaguer. I realized there might
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: not be a spot for him, But are we just
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: wasting zeros down there in Arkansas right now with this kid?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: No, not in the slightest None of this is wasted
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: This is development in that league, I think is so valuable,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: and that league used to be a lot tougher with
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: the travel that came with it. Kade being on the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: north side of that Texas League, the travel was a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: little bit better than the south side, But I experienced
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: the south side of that Texas League and the travel
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: that comes with it is really tough. And you have
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: some great competition in there, and I felt like Double
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: A had such quality hitters, such quality pitchers, the baseball
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: was at a different level all of a sudden. The
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: experience he's gathering right now is great. The Mariners have
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 7: a plan for Kate Anderson. We don't know what it is,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: but I think there's a reason why he hasn't been
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 7: stretched out past the five or six inning mark, because
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of every inning he throws as valuable.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 7: And at some point this season, the Mariners will make
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: a decision of who are the best thirteen pitchers we
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: have available within our entire organization, and how do we
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: get every single one of those guys onto this pitching
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 7: staff so that we can make the or they can
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 7: make the run that they really want to to the playoffs.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: When that decision is made. I'm not sure. Like they're
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: still in the first half of the season right now.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: There's so much baseball to be played. It's the marathon,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 7: truly is. Even though these series in these tough pockets
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: have going four and six on a tough road trip,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: it feels like, oh my gosh, we have sprinted to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: our death. And it's like, no, it was just a
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 7: rough couple of games. Guys are banged up. Let's get
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: him off their feet, let's get the regulars back out there,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: and let's get him healthy and then we'll start piecing
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: together what the pitching staff looks like. But I don't
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 7: think his innings are being wasted in Double A. He's
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: experiencing some tremendous development that'll serve him when he is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: ready to come to major leagues.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about what's going to happen
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: today over at a tea mobile because the team coming
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: off a rough road trip with a couple of nights
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: to sleep in their own beds, getting ready for a
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: brand new homestand and all of a sudden, walking through
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: the door comes the face of the franchise and he
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: kind of looks reborn based on the damage he was
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: doing down there in Tacoma. What's it going to mean
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: to this team to get Cal Raley back tonight?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Everything?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 7: And I think watch like Cal, watching this team have
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: a ton of success with success with his absence motivated
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: him a little bit more. Not that Cal needed motivation,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 7: but I think the perspective that it gave him to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: be away from the game for a second, to get
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 7: that confidence back of I know what my worth is
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: the player, and I can now see what this team
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: is capable of without me needing to hit sixty home runs.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: And oddly enough, when that mindset all of a sudden
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: shifts of like let me think small and you know,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: big things happen. He hits what five home runs in
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: his rehab assignment, has a couple of games with two
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 7: home runs, hits a home run on the right and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 7: the left hand side of the plate in Saturday's game
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: in Tacoma. I really hope that the fans in the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: Northwest were able to go to all those games and
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: Effett and in Tacoma to just enjoy that and see
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: that spark that Cal even brings to a minor league
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: team when he shows up, Because that same spark is
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: coming back to the meritors today, and he's going to
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 7: be such a jolt of energy in that clubhouse on
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 7: that field.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: He sold out every seat, I'll tell you that much.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: He sold out every seat in every park that he
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: played in. They even made like makeshift T shirts just
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: for the moment, Raleigh Rainiers, they were great. Is there
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: any truth? And this is this just me speaking from
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: complete ignorance. I've not been in that cage every day
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: like you've been in the past and faced major league getters,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: but his timing looked off to me the entire season.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Is there any truth to this? Was a blessing in
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: disguise that he had to be forced to rest that
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: side and he kind of got to restart his swing
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: all over again, and that maybe when he restarted it
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: he fixed it. That maybe he's getting started a little
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: bit earlier with his feet and it's getting his hands
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: started a little bit earlier, and that he may have
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: needed that time off to just recalibrate that swing again.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 7: There's definitely a storyline surrounding that topic, Chuck. I watch
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: a ton of hitters second and think about the amount
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: of swings I've taken in my life and the swings
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: that I've watched in my life. I can usually pick
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: up an adjustment that a hitter makes right away. I
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: spent a lot of time watching cow slwings on this
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 7: rehab assignment, comparing them to swings that he was taking
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: last year in some of his hottest pockets when he
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: was hitting the homers, and the timing definitely looks a
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: little different. It looked like to me, the front leg,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: especially with his left handed swing, that front leg wasn't
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 7: coming up is high to start his move. He almost
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: was able to hover it earlier and longer. So to
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: your credit, there the feed are moving a little bit sooner.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: He looks like he's moving more under control, and I
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: see him getting to that launch position, kind of this
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 7: spot where he can move really quickly and make a
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: decision what he wants. He's getting to that spot sooner.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: The sooner your body gets to that spot where I'm
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: ready to swing, your eyes can turn on and start
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: picking up pitches. I saw that happen. But I'll backtrack
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: to this. The game of baseball has a way of
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: speeding you up mentally, and when you're sped up mentally,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: the physical is going to follow. And think about Cal's
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty six season, so far from start to finish,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 7: from going to spring training really early, going to WBC,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 7: really struggling against some great competition that not playing, grinding
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 7: in the batting cage every single day, trying to get
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: his timing down, knowing that you can't find timing in
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 7: the batting cage because there's nothing that simulates a game,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: coming back to spring, getting a ton of the bats
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: in a short amount of time. Everything that Cal did
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 7: this year leading up to the spring the regular season
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: was speeding him up. And I think to your point,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: this injury forced him to slow down for the first
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: time this entire year. And I think last year, when
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 7: you watch him, he looks really slow. He looked methodical,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: he looked like everything had a purpose, And this year
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: the purpose was trying to find something that was almost
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 7: unobtainable because internally his clock was just moving faster. So
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: what it looks like to me is he was able
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: to slow it down. He got some perspective that you
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 7: can't get when you're playing of man, this game, I
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 7: really miss it, or man, these guys are having so
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: much fun. I want to be out there with them.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: Look at these guys having so much success. They don't
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 7: need me to be an MVP. They just need me
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 7: to be a leader and can contribute. So when he
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: comes back, I'm anticipating that version of Cal show up.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 7: Or when he does strike out, it's not the end
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: of the world, not that he ever showed emotion, but
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: internally it's not the end of the world. I know
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: that I'm gonna get him the next time. That confidence
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 7: that comes with that slowing down is what we're going
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: to see, and I'm excited for that.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm expecting him to just crush like immediately. Am I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: setting myself up for a fall?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: There?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Always? But do what you gotta do, Chuck, you know, Yeah,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: it's true, and it's not just Cal. I mean, I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: know JP's been on the road with him, but to
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: get your two leaders of your clubhouse back in the
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: lineup on the same night. I told you this is
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: going to be mostly optimistic this conversation. I realize that
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of cybermetrics people, analytics people that
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: don't even calculate chemistry. They can't they don't have a
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: number to attach to it, so they don't think that
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: it's a factor in baseball. But man, if getting Cal
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: and JP back in your lineup, considering how much they
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: are respected and loved in that clubhouse doesn't provide some
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: sort of lift that you can't put a value on,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: then maybe I don't understand how the psychology of sports works.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 7: I think you understand enough. The only thing you maybe
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 7: don't understand is like what the players are thinking. But
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 7: if you did, then you wouldn't need me. So stay
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: right where you're at, Jack, you know. Yeah, I think
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 7: the calm energy that those two will bring between JP
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 7: and Cal just into some of the pregame prep work,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 7: the clubhouse music, all those things that's gonna play into
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: how this team shows up on the field. They have
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 7: a great chance to play this Baltimore team again right away,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: which I always loved. I always love seeing teams out
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 7: of the division multiple times in a short window because
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 7: as a hitter, I'm more familiar with the pitching staff,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 7: the starters and relievers, so the game playing is a
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: little bit simpler, and I know what the identity of
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 7: that team is. And yeah, they took two, but there's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 7: no way that they're gonna take you know, a series
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: here in a home, our home ballpark. I think there's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 7: a lot of pride when this Mariners team shows back up.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 7: The team mobile and the fans always show up in support,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 7: which I always loved as a player, and as the
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 7: team becomes more successful, more and more fans show up.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: It's awesome. It's a special place to be and I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: know they're all excited to be back there today.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a crazy weekend.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: I got this World Cup thing going on too, so
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have Ryan Roland Smith's Aussie's here Friday afternoon
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: into Mariner baseball on Friday night. I mean, other than
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: you know, getting sick of Ryan Rowland Smith's national allegiance.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a pretty fun weekend,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: don't you.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 7: I respect it. I respect the Ozzie, like the fandom
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 7: ship and just the passion that they share for the country.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: It's gonna be electric in Seattle. I'm bummy. I'm not
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: up there this weekend, but I'll definitely be watching from afar.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: Are you checking out any World Cup action? It's all
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: right if you aren't. I'll respect you. I respect you.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 7: Will you though I'm not worried about your respect. I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: feel like we have mutual respect and word with the listeners.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy can't even watch soccer. They might
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: be judging. They might be judging a little bit, but
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: it's all right.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: Does it matter that I was traveling with two young
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 7: toddlers for and under?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: Yes it does.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: I'm the only thing I'm watching is IS kids cartoon
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 7: movies right now and trying to keep kids somewhat quiet
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: on the flight because I try to respect the people
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: around me. But I know Team USA. Someone told me
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 7: I was at the gym this morning. They said, Team
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: say place Friday. So I'm gonna have to clear my
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 7: schedule and make sure I watch that at the very least.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows your two year old hates ties. Everybody knows
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: that he.
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  Speaker 7: Doesn't want to be told what to do a new
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 7: does my daughter. So I'm just you know, what do
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 7: with the word that I hear the most every single day?
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Chuck is No? Is that right? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well you know what it's a yes from USA.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna come here here? I come here for SP
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  Speaker 1: week the otherwise I wouldn't survive. Was that a great segment?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Is Ryan Healey grated breaking down baseball? Yes? Are we
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing Ryan Healey again. Yes, there you go.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Do my kids care about any of that?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: All right, man, thanks appreciate it. We'll talk to you
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: next week.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: Have a great day, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I have some really good conversations with those fellows about
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: their three respective sports. But there's another big story today.
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  Speaker 1: We nibbled on it earlier, probably need to get into
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: it a little bit more now because it's now NFL's problem.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Brendan Soarsby, that's now your problem. We have washed our
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: hands of it. College football apparently does not have to
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: deal with Brendan Soarsby anymore. But I am curious if
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: the ruling made by the judge does continue to impact
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: college football, because Soarsby is just like I don't want
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: to go through all that red tape. I don't want
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: to keep fighting this legal battle. They're not guaranteeing me
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  Speaker 1: when I'm gonna be on the football field. If I'm
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: not on the football field, then I don't get my
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  Speaker 1: nil money. What on earth? It's such an unknown. How
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: long are they going to drag this out?
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  Speaker 4: Screw it.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go through it. All I'm gonna
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: do is just get booed everywhere I go throughout the
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: entire season. I'm probably gonna give Texas Tech a bad name.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I do have this option to go to the National
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Football League, so I'm gonna do that. So he just
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: kind of excused himself from the headache of it all.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Trinidad Chamblins just kept battling his situation and fought through it. Well,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: this was going to be an even bigger headache obviously
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: for Soresby, and he just like jumped out of the
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: plane and pulled the shoot and is hoping to land
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: safely in the National Football League somewhere. And so does
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: college football still get impacted? I don't know by this
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: is that judge's ruling. Does now anyone on a college
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: campus that is gambling on their own team, Well, I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: can get out of it. Yeah, because the ruling still
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: stand even though we didn't see it to the end,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: is my question.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would think the NC two A would still
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: fight it to have somebody else overturn that injunction even
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: though it was technically Brendan Soresby only. I would think
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: you want to don't want to set a precedent because
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: what I was reading yesterday, other people who have gotten
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: in trouble for other things but are saying that it's
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: an addiction or it's something else, are already citing that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: this judge issued an injunction based on the mental health
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: aspect of it. And you know as far and that's
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: not saying that there's no mental health part of this,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 6: but you can't have this be the precedent that you're
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: setting in the NC two A. You need to shut
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: that down, the gambling part of it, and then you
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: can work on, you know, however legal jargon you need
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: to do to make sure this isn't a problem moving forward.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: But I would think you can't just leave that hanging
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: out there.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's a great point.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: And so college football still got to like suture that
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: up it's still a wound and they better put a suture,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: to put some peroxide on that or something.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: I would think, so, yeah, i'd get an infection.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then maybe a bandage. Yeah, you're gonna need to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: gauze that up, clean gauze. Don't just think that you
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: can use yesterday's gauze. So yeah, I would think that
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: that that college football still has some work to do
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: to make sure that this doesn't happen again. And that
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: really does go back to the overarching point. It's got
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: to be collective barging agreement, players association commissioner rules that
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: govern it that can stand on their own, so an
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: outside judge cannot interfere, and that means both players and
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: league have to agree on terms. So I think that's
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: how college football moves forward. But now this is this
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: soorves me things an NFL problem. I heard this morning
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: that the NFL has to decide whether or not they're
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: going to they're going to rule on this, if they're
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: going to act, if they're going to keep somebody that
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: gambled on his own team in college from joining their league,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: because they could possibly make Brendan Soresby's life miserable on
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the other side, he could run into another dead end.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: On this side, it sounds like that won't happen. He
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: will be allowed to enter the supplemental draft, but with
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: no guarantee that the NFL might make some ruling at
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: some point down the line, which seems very sketchy to me.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: My guess is for Soorsby too have abandoned this. Either
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: he or his agent got word from somebody within the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League that he would not be stopped, and
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  Speaker 1: probably from an NFL general manager, like what less Need
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  Speaker 1: did for Ty Simpson. You can go ahead and come
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  Speaker 1: into the league. We'll definitely take you in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: If nobody else does their fools, we'll take you in
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  Speaker 1: the first round. Maybe somebody got in so Soresby's ear
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  Speaker 1: and said, well, we'll definitely draft you. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to go through seven rounds of a supplemental draft. We'll
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: definitely put a bit in on you. You don't have
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: to worry about not being taken, And maybe that assurance
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  Speaker 1: led him down a road that is not without questions.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have all the answers about how
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be received in the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: and by Roger Goodell right now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would think too there is possibly some
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: word from his legal team or something that said, you
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: know what, the NC two A is going to win
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  Speaker 6: this and that injunction is going to be reversed and
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: you are going to have to fight it again, or if.
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  Speaker 1: We do win it, it might not be till halfway
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  Speaker 1: through the series.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So, yeah, your season's kind of a moot point, yeah,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: or a moot point Cow's opinions.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, at least you didn't say mute. I hear
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people say a mute point. No that's wrong, No,
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  Speaker 1: that's moot. She's mouthing, Yes, he's mouthing something.
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  Speaker 6: But I just would think, yeah, that he had to
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  Speaker 6: have probably heard on both sides.
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  Speaker 5: They probably did some research.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, but as far as this goes with
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  Speaker 6: college football, yeah, the damage was done in the fact
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: that people are in all up in arms, you know,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: the conference scene. They're not going to play Texas Tech,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: and there was a whole you know, the fights between
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: the ads and I mean he caused a bleep storm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, before I get off college
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: or back to the NFL, I would just say I
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: got to give some credit the Big Twelve. I mean,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech had a chance with Soresby of kind of
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: representing them in the tournament, and who knows how far
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: they could have gone. That's programs obviously growing by leaps
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: and bounds under this new kind of era of college football,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: and the Big Twelve is like, no, I don't care
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: if you are our best team or if you might
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: be our best team.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: Or we're not.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: No, right, we're not going to stand at this. So
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: I get Big twelve a little bit of credit. Now
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: it shifts to the NFL's individual teams because the supplemental
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Draft I think happens next week. I think it happens
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: in very short order. The supplemental Draft is there every
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: single year, but there's not always a player that goes
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: into the supplemental Draft. And it is a silent auction.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: So you've been to one of those charity of where
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: you see like, oh my gosh, it's a two nights
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: day at the Hilton Garden Express, you know, and then
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: you yeah, and then you put in your bid and
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: then you leave it alone and you might only put
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: ten dollars. You never know, maybe nobody will see it.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: I'll get this for ten bucks. But if you're really charitable,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: you go over the mark. So that's kind of the
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: way it works. Every team just puts it on a
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: slip of paper. This is what we were willing to go.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: You don't get to bid against someone else. You don't
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: get to wait to find out if, oh, the Cardinals
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: are going to give a second round, Oh, we'll do
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: it first. It got to work that one. Yeah, it's
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: it's written down beforehand, and then whoever has the best
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: silent bid gets the player. I've heard that it's probably
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: going to be a third, fourth round selection. I don't
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be left out. I don't think
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: he's going to be made an example of. I don't
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: think NFL teams are going to get scared off by
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: his story either. I really don't. Now there is an
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: element to a guy who handles the ball every play
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: is admitting to having a gambling addiction. I mean, there's
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: an element to that. But my guess is this is talented.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: He's certainly draftable. There's talk that he could be a
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: first rounder if he would have played this full season.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Somebody's going to look at that as an opportunity to
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: possibly get rich at the quarterback position and spend only
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: a third or fourth round pick this year. And I
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: would suspect the Cardinals, the Jets, teams like that are
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: going to be the ones that would be on him.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't rule out teams that already have established
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks that you know that might be a little
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: long in the tooth right now, that if you could
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: just sit on this young man for three years and
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: all you had to do is invest a fourth round
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: pick in him, then maybe it's for a team that
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: you know is thinking about, Hey, you know, maybe after
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' day is done, then we've got sores by
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: there to fill in. That's a bad example because we
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: know he's only gonna play one year. But I think
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: he's going to be drafted. I don't think it's gonna
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: be barely either. I think it's gonna safely be right
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: around the third or fourth round.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 6: And I think we have to remember, too, these NFL
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 6: teams can put whatever things in the contract that protect them, right.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, the Cardinals had a clause in there that
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 6: said Kyler Murray had to actually practice or like read
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: and study, so they could put something in there that
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: if he, you know, even comes close to violating the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: NFL standards which you can't gamble, then maybe they get
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: out of it for you know, without any damage.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: I love the idea of anybody that's bought a house
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: or a car and they just keep throwing things at
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: you to sign. Now, if you will sign this insurance addendum, Now,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: if you will sign this little you know you gotta
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: note this. You gotta you gotta alphabetize this. Yeah, you gotta.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: I need your John Cancock on this. I mean, there's
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: always like I'm just picturing soresby sitting at the table
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: and than the you know, the Ravens are like, yeah,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: and we're just gonna need you to sign. You can't
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: bet on us.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: Right, I will only bet on other teams in games
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: I'm not playing.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna need your sores be on this. Don't
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: ever bet on us. Yeah, you know, sort of a dindum.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: We've never had to file this before, but we're gonna
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: need that from you, buddy.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: And also while we're at it, let's add in a
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 6: Kyler Murray. You do need to study?
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can't choose video games over practice, all right.
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