Latest / The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane / 8-26-26 - Figuring out the Broncos defense/The SEC takes a stand/Not down with Dunkman?
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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Cain on demand.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Check out Brett weekday mornings at 6 on Altitude Sports
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- 0:19Speaker 2: I think that first drive was kind of twofold. You know,
- 0:21Speaker 2: for me, I didn't think we, our approach, in my opinion,
- 0:26Speaker 2: was unengaged and a little bit lazy, right? It wasn't
- 0:29Speaker 2: the right approach, even in pregame. So I felt that.
- 0:32Speaker 2: So that was the first lesson. The second lesson is
- 0:35Speaker 2: I think two games, what we've played here, we've seen
- 0:39Speaker 2: how offenses see us. So lots of boots, lots of misdirection,
- 0:44Speaker 2: outside runs more often than not, match protection passes, quick game.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Teams don't want to lose first down because if they
- 0:51Speaker 2: do lose first down, our rush kind of comes alive.
- 0:55Speaker 2: So I think that game was an example of what
- 0:59Speaker 2: is coming in the future, how teams see us. Run game-wise,
- 1:03Speaker 2: pass game-wise, winning first down with quick game, boots, you know,
- 1:08Speaker 2: outside runs more often than inside runs. So, to me,
- 1:10Speaker 2: it was a great lesson on both ends of when
- 1:15Speaker 2: we play, it's a standard, and I want to see
- 1:18Speaker 2: it all the time.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Broncos are lucky to have that guy.
- 1:23Speaker 4: You know, it's such a weird situation when you talk
- 1:26Speaker 4: about a dude who used to be the head coach.
- 1:29Speaker 4: Who had a unsuccessful run at being the head coach,
- 1:33Speaker 4: only to come back as an assistant later and be
- 1:36Speaker 4: one of the premier assistants inside that league. Everything he
- 1:41Speaker 4: just said is as sharp as intuitive as a defensive.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Coordinator is going to get about their own defense.
- 1:50Speaker 4: It knows your weaknesses, it knows your strengths, and it
- 1:53Speaker 4: knows what the other team is trying to do to
- 1:55Speaker 4: combat it.
- 1:56Speaker 3: The only way you can solve a problem.
- 1:59Speaker 4: is to identify it first and then create a game
- 2:02Speaker 4: plan around it. And to be able to do this
- 2:05Speaker 4: in preseason, and I don't think it's just preseason. I
- 2:09Speaker 4: bet it was towards the end of last year. You know,
- 2:12Speaker 4: the Broncos were a top three defense in the league
- 2:17Speaker 4: up until the last, I would say, handful of games,
- 2:20Speaker 4: six games-ish. I hesitated to say the number after that
- 2:25Speaker 4: because I did not want to see Nelly move his hands.
- 2:30Speaker 4: So I just said six. Six to eight games, how about?
- 2:36Speaker 4: We'll skip the number in between. But I think a
- 2:40Speaker 4: lot of that stemmed from a couple of different things.
- 2:41Speaker 3: I think one.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Was you got worn out. When you have to play
- 2:49Speaker 4: at an elite level for 60 straight minutes for over
- 2:54Speaker 4: 10 plus weeks, it puts a lot of stress on
- 2:58Speaker 4: your team.
- 3:00Speaker 3: That's one.
- 3:01Speaker 4: Two, at some point, teams are going to figure you out.
- 3:06Speaker 4: It does not matter how good of a player or
- 3:09Speaker 4: team you are. Someone will create a game plan that
- 3:15Speaker 4: is going to make it difficult on you. That's just sports.
- 3:20Speaker 4: You know, there have been elite pitchers in the MLB
- 3:23Speaker 4: that for maybe a short amount of time have been tagged.
- 3:28Speaker 4: Because they picked something up. They had a tell on
- 3:31Speaker 4: you or something. Same thing with great hitters. Barry Bonds,
- 3:35Speaker 4: believe it or not, would go through a slump.
- 3:38Speaker 3: It happens.
- 3:40Speaker 4: But bottom line is, if you're able to identify what's
- 3:44Speaker 4: wrong like Vance Joseph did, then that's step one. And
- 3:52Speaker 4: he is so correct about this. The strength of your team,
- 3:58Speaker 4: and there's many of them, but the ultimate strength of
- 4:02Speaker 4: your team is your pass rush. It has been for
- 4:07Speaker 4: a number of years now. When you look at the
- 4:11Speaker 4: way that it's how they were built, it's Zach Allen
- 4:14Speaker 4: and Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper. and previously JFM, but
- 4:19Speaker 4: now you can mix in DJ Jones and Malcolm Roach
- 4:23Speaker 4: and all these different guys in the defensive line, hopefully
- 4:26Speaker 4: what will be Jonah Ellis and Q Robinson, they are
- 4:31Speaker 4: experts at making the opposing quarterback scared. And when you
- 4:39Speaker 4: don't do well on first down against the Broncos defense,
- 4:44Speaker 4: you give them essentially a green light to say it's
- 4:47Speaker 4: time to eat. And so Vance Joseph in saying that
- 4:52Speaker 4: knows if they're going to play a quick game on you,
- 4:55Speaker 4: if they're going to hit you for a quick screen
- 5:03Speaker 4: that's going to get them five, six yards on first down,
- 5:05Speaker 4: that's all they want because they want to keep all
- 5:08Speaker 4: of those pass rushers and everybody on that defensive line
- 5:11Speaker 4: at least aware and thinking about Well, I can't just
- 5:19Speaker 4: pin my ears back and go after the quarterback. What
- 5:21Speaker 4: if they run some sort of delay? What if they
- 5:26Speaker 4: hit us on a counter?
- 5:27Speaker 3: What if they do this? What if they do that?
- 5:28Speaker 3: But all of that is.
- 5:29Speaker 4: You have to keep the defense thinking. It's part of
- 5:32Speaker 4: the thing that I think the Broncos offense has to do.
- 5:36Speaker 4: The Broncos offense at times became entirely too predictable. And
- 5:40Speaker 4: then when they walk up to the line of scrimmage,
- 5:42Speaker 4: you could say by down in distance, all right, they're
- 5:45Speaker 4: probably going to do this here.
- 5:47Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
- 5:50Speaker 4: It's keeping your opponent on their toes and having them
- 5:52Speaker 4: thinking that everything's a possibility. It's kind of the exact
- 5:57Speaker 4: same thing I'm saying for the Broncos offense.
- 6:02Speaker 3: And how I want them to play this year.
- 6:05Speaker 4: To put themselves in more manageable positions on third down
- 6:09Speaker 4: and if you do that, it'll cut the frequency of
- 6:14Speaker 4: three and outs.
- 6:15Speaker 3: By a lot.
- 6:19Speaker 4: No, it's just one of those things where you're looking
- 6:22Speaker 4: for things to improve from last year. And it's hard
- 6:25Speaker 4: to say, you know, the Broncos defense needed an area
- 6:29Speaker 4: or multiple areas to improve.
- 6:32Speaker 3: But I think you saw by the end.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Of that season, um, I think you saw a little
- 6:43Speaker 4: bit of an exposure of what teams found that can work.
- 6:48Speaker 4: A texter says, slants and crossers are the Broncos' defense kryptonite,
- 6:51Speaker 4: same as last year.
- 6:55Speaker 3: I agree.
- 6:56Speaker 4: I don't... The reason why I think has a lot
- 7:03Speaker 4: to do with... The only reason I'm hesitating is kryptonite is,
- 7:08Speaker 4: I think, a heavy word for it. It's something that
- 7:11Speaker 4: would work with more consistency than really anything else last
- 7:15Speaker 4: year against them. I mean, it's not exactly a kryptonite
- 7:19Speaker 4: if your defense goes out and holds teams, you know, 17,
- 7:22Speaker 4: 18 points a game.
- 7:25Speaker 3: But it is something that I think is a flaw.
- 7:27Speaker 4: And I think that flaw stems from a lot of
- 7:29Speaker 4: those slants and crossers and things like that.
- 7:33Speaker 3: I think bear a heavy responsibility on some linebackers.
- 7:37Speaker 4: And linebacker is maybe the only spot, while those guys
- 7:40Speaker 4: are good, you can't say have any elite all-pro level players.
- 7:48Speaker 4: You look at every single other sort of position on
- 7:51Speaker 4: that defense, it's like they're there. On the edge, you
- 7:54Speaker 4: got Nick Benito. On the interior, you have Zach Allen.
- 7:57Speaker 4: On the outside, you have Pat Sertan. In the safety group,
- 8:00Speaker 4: you have Hufanga. They have good linebackers, not all pro level.
- 8:08Speaker 4: And if you're going to attack the Broncos' defense, where
- 8:10Speaker 4: are you going to do it? It ain't going at Sertan.
- 8:15Speaker 4: You aren't going at Zach Allen. But I think it's
- 8:23Speaker 4: very smart of Vance Joseph to be able to recognize
- 8:25Speaker 4: these are what teams are trying to do, and this
- 8:28Speaker 4: is how we're.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Kind of being beat.
- 8:30Speaker 4: Texas says, do you think the Broncos respond big time
- 8:35Speaker 4: on Friday? It gets Minnesota again. Not that it counts,
- 8:41Speaker 4: but it matters, I think, collectively that they may crush
- 8:43Speaker 4: the Vikings. I'd like to see it. I think that they're... Look,
- 8:49Speaker 4: it's hard to know in a third preseason game because
- 8:54Speaker 4: the ultimate goal of preseason game number three is just
- 8:57Speaker 4: nobody gets hurt. Like, I'm somebody that if I were
- 9:00Speaker 4: a head coach, I think what I would try and do,
- 9:03Speaker 4: I would try and.
- 9:07Speaker 3: If I'm playing my starters... Play.
- 9:09Speaker 4: Them in the first couple of preseason games. And I
- 9:12Speaker 4: don't think I'm playing anybody in the third one. I
- 9:16Speaker 4: just think, you know what, we got our reps in.
- 9:18Speaker 4: I am not risking any type of injury on any
- 9:21Speaker 4: amount of plays the final week. But Sean Payton was
- 9:24Speaker 4: so pissed after the game last week, he might. And
- 9:28Speaker 4: if that's the case, I think you'll get a response
- 9:31Speaker 4: because Sean Payton wasn't happy.
- 9:33Speaker 3: After last game.
- 9:33Speaker 4: And the players shouldn't have been either. I mean, they
- 9:35Speaker 4: got their butts kicked. We can say whatever we want. Like,
- 9:37Speaker 4: the starting offense looked fine. Everybody else kind of got toasted.
- 9:42Speaker 5: Well, and Vijay, who's pretty even keel, even said in
- 9:45Speaker 5: that sound bite that we used to open the show
- 9:47Speaker 5: that his players weren't focused from the warm-ups. And he
- 9:51Speaker 5: elaborated on that more later in his presser.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I kind of felt it there. And you want your
- 9:55Speaker 2: team to grow and kind of control that part, right?
- 10:00Speaker 2: If you feel it as a coach in a regular season,
- 10:02Speaker 2: you address that. But obviously in training camp, I want
- 10:05Speaker 2: to see how they respond to a long camp and
- 10:09Speaker 2: playing a better opponent week two. So disappointed in how
- 10:14Speaker 2: we came out, obviously.
- 10:16Speaker 4: You know, there's something else to that, because I was
- 10:18Speaker 4: wondering this too. When you go through what is essentially
- 10:22Speaker 4: an entire year of non-adversity, okay? The Broncos started the
- 10:33Speaker 4: season last year. It's hard to remember this, but it's true.
- 10:37Speaker 4: They started the year 1-2. If you guys remember, they
- 10:42Speaker 4: played Tennessee in the opening game last week. They didn't
- 10:44Speaker 4: look great, but they were playing against Cam Ward, rookie quarterback,
- 10:47Speaker 4: in his first game.
- 10:48Speaker 3: They win 20-12.
- 10:50Speaker 4: The week after that was a tough game against Indianapolis.
- 10:55Speaker 4: This is when Daniel Jones was, you know, going crazy.
- 11:02Speaker 4: This is in the middle of his, like, sort of
- 11:03Speaker 4: comeback resurgence bid. So he threw for 300 yards on
- 11:08Speaker 4: you and Jonathan Taylor ran for 165.
- 11:09Speaker 3: You lose to the Colts.
- 11:18Speaker 4: On a last-second field goal, 29-28, and you're now 1-1,
- 11:25Speaker 4: the next week, you go out and play the Chargers,
- 11:30Speaker 4: and you lose to the Chargers, 23-20, because what ironically
- 11:36Speaker 4: happened is, these might be the only two games.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Of the year.
- 11:43Speaker 4: That you lost the fourth quarter in. You're outscored 10-3
- 11:47Speaker 4: against the Chargers, and you're outscored 6-0 against the Colts
- 11:50Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter.
- 11:50Speaker 3: That was in weeks two and three. But I wonder, what.
- 11:56Speaker 4: Happens this year, especially early, playing against better opponents, when
- 12:04Speaker 4: you face adversity, how do you respond? And I don't mean,
- 12:11Speaker 4: you know, you could say adversity, and it is, is
- 12:14Speaker 4: losing your starting quarterback heading into the AFC championship game.
- 12:18Speaker 4: But I'm talking about more of you get punched in
- 12:22Speaker 4: the mouth a couple of times. How do you respond
- 12:25Speaker 4: to it? You know, we talk about this with the
- 12:30Speaker 4: way the Avs season ended. The Avs are the best
- 12:32Speaker 4: team in the league from start to finish. Really didn't
- 12:34Speaker 4: have a weakness from start to finish. Had a power
- 12:37Speaker 4: play that wasn't great. That was straight up bad at
- 12:40Speaker 4: times throughout the year. But It wasn't what affected them
- 12:45Speaker 4: from a win-loss standpoint. President's Trophy winners, number one, from
- 12:52Speaker 4: October to all the way until that Western Conference Final.
- 12:59Speaker 4: They get hit with a little bit of adversity for
- 13:01Speaker 4: the first time in a long time that year. And
- 13:06Speaker 4: didn't respond well to it. You just went through a
- 13:09Speaker 4: season where you went 14-3. And you went 13-1, well,
- 13:17Speaker 4: actually 14-1.
- 13:22Speaker 3: Until the AFC championship game.
- 13:25Speaker 4: You didn't have to deal with a couple of weeks
- 13:27Speaker 4: of disappointment outside.
- 13:28Speaker 3: The first, you know, three of the year.
- 13:33Speaker 4: How do you respond when things don't go your way?
- 13:36Speaker 4: When some team just had your number? And I do
- 13:42Speaker 4: think that's a big thing for them this year, given
- 13:45Speaker 4: how the entire last season went.
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- 14:38Speaker 4: In the meantime, the Big Ten has already said, hey,
- 14:41Speaker 4: anybody that wants to sign some player who comes from
- 14:49Speaker 4: an NFL training camp, you're not allowed.
- 14:51Speaker 3: That's the Big Ten stance.
- 14:54Speaker 4: The SEC put out a statement a couple of days
- 14:56Speaker 4: ago that said, we don't like this, but then took
- 14:59Speaker 4: it a step further yesterday and said, all right, if
- 15:05Speaker 4: you've played in the NFL, the NBA, the WNBA, whatever,
- 15:11Speaker 4: if you have declared for the draft, if you have
- 15:13Speaker 4: done this or that, there is no coming back. And
- 15:19Speaker 4: part of me thinks, okay, um, I suppose it's a
- 15:24Speaker 4: little bit different in baseball. A guy declares for the
- 15:27Speaker 4: draft out of high school, and if he does that,
- 15:30Speaker 4: he has the choice to go to college or to
- 15:31Speaker 4: sign his pro contract.
- 15:35Speaker 3: But if you do it in college, it's over. You
- 15:38Speaker 3: are not allowed to play.
- 15:39Speaker 4: So the interesting thing now becomes, does this open up
- 15:44Speaker 4: an avenue for conferences like the Big 12 to go
- 15:48Speaker 4: out and get players like this if the SEC and
- 15:50Speaker 4: Big 10 are not allowing them? My assumption is going
- 15:53Speaker 4: to be everybody's going to fall in line. That college
- 15:57Speaker 4: athletics as a whole is going to be like, no,
- 15:59Speaker 4: we can't do this.
- 16:00Speaker 3: It's not good for anybody. You know, say whatever you want.
- 16:06Speaker 4: A big reason why college athletics are popular is because
- 16:11Speaker 4: a good college athlete eventually goes to the pros and
- 16:13Speaker 4: you have this sort of handshake, wink, wink deal between
- 16:20Speaker 4: the two conferences. There's only one option in this discussion,
- 16:28Speaker 4: and it's exactly what the Big Ten and the SEC
- 16:30Speaker 4: have done, which is we.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Are not going to allow this.
- 16:38Speaker 4: And at some point, somebody's got to take a step
- 16:43Speaker 4: and tamp down, we'll say, the nonsense that is going
- 16:49Speaker 4: on in college sports right now. And what's funny is
- 16:51Speaker 4: the NCAA is maybe the most toothless billionaire organization that
- 16:55Speaker 4: exists out there. Like when you think about how much
- 16:59Speaker 4: money the NCAA is worth, how much money does the
- 17:04Speaker 4: NCAA make a year?
- 17:09Speaker 3: The answer that you get.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Is 1.38 to 1.52 billion in revenue annually. And that's
- 17:20Speaker 4: just the NCAA. When you include ticket sales and booster
- 17:24Speaker 4: donations and conference TV deals and all that stuff that's
- 17:28Speaker 4: directly managed by universities, you're talking about roughly $ 20.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Billion a year that exists in college sports in revenue.
- 17:42Speaker 4: And to have something that is worth that much money
- 17:45Speaker 4: in an overseeing sort of head of this that is.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Completely and utterly useless. It's pretty crazy.
- 17:57Speaker 4: The NCAA used to be sort of this all-powerful god
- 18:02Speaker 4: within the college sports realm. Don't you dare trade a
- 18:06Speaker 4: jersey for some free tattoos. If you do that, then
- 18:10Speaker 4: we're going to bring the hammer. But they've always kind
- 18:14Speaker 4: of looked the other way for the most part. On
- 18:20Speaker 4: some deep scandals that have very obvious evidence, but it
- 18:27Speaker 4: would be bad for the sport if you went full
- 18:29Speaker 4: bore into it. They used to punish individual players or
- 18:35Speaker 4: they used to punish, you know, schools that were not
- 18:43Speaker 4: part of the A-list. But I mean, for years, guys,
- 18:47Speaker 4: we all knew it. I... I don't know how many
- 18:53Speaker 4: big recruits in college that you've talked to before, like
- 18:57Speaker 4: guys who play professionally, retired now, that would talk about, oh, well,
- 19:02Speaker 4: you should have seen what I was offered by Team
- 19:05Speaker 4: X when I was in the recruiting process.
- 19:08Speaker 3: And it could be anywhere from money to cars to
- 19:10Speaker 3: houses to.
- 19:13Speaker 4: Some of them were Chicks, you know, like it's crazy
- 19:17Speaker 4: what that sport used to be. Part of me is
- 19:19Speaker 4: happier that this stuff is kind of all out in
- 19:22Speaker 4: the open now, but it is now provided a side
- 19:29Speaker 4: door into a whole bunch of nonsense that if we
- 19:34Speaker 4: were going back.
- 19:36Speaker 3: 20, 30 years ago would never have happened.
- 19:38Speaker 4: Now, Crackman Lindahl talked about this yesterday, about Daquan Wright,
- 19:42Speaker 4: the dude out of the Browns camp that was cut
- 19:46Speaker 4: and now wants to go back to college and go
- 19:47Speaker 4: to LSU, here's what they said.
- 19:49Speaker 6: And whether it's crap or not, whether it's some judge
- 19:53Speaker 6: that's just in LSU's pocket or not, again, are you
- 19:57Speaker 6: really hurting anybody with this whole thing? As long as
- 19:59Speaker 6: the kid didn't go full Brendan Swordsby and bet on
- 20:02Speaker 6: his own team or whatever. Like, I understand having an issue.
- 20:05Speaker 6: I had a huge issue with Brendan Swordsby.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Sure.
- 20:08Speaker 6: On this one... Dude's looking at it going, I'm not
- 20:11Speaker 6: going to make this NFL team. They just had a
- 20:13Speaker 6: ruling that said I can get a fifth year of eligibility.
- 20:15Speaker 6: I would like to continue to play college football.
- 20:17Speaker 4: If I were the NFL and I were college football,
- 20:19Speaker 4: work it out to where if you decide this kid's
- 20:20Speaker 4: not ready, we're sending you back down for more seasoning
- 20:23Speaker 4: the way baseball and hockey does.
- 20:24Speaker 6: You're a professional minor league. Just deal with it.
- 20:27Speaker 3: Yeah, you've made yourself that.
- 20:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:29Speaker 6: You made yourself that the minute you took millions and
- 20:31Speaker 6: billions of dollars for your TV deal.
- 20:34Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 20:34Speaker 6: Let's sell everything to the highest bidder, but then when
- 20:36Speaker 6: this kid tries to go and continue to make a
- 20:38Speaker 6: living as a football player, I'm sorry, that's just not acceptable.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Because remember, he didn't make any money to go to camp.
- 20:44Speaker 4: I think that there's a separation here, and I totally
- 20:47Speaker 4: understand what Crickman and Lindahl are saying, and to be
- 20:49Speaker 4: totally fair, I think that it's a totally legitimate argument
- 20:55Speaker 4: to make. This has been the process for, I don't know, 60, 70,
- 21:02Speaker 4: 80 years?
- 21:03Speaker 3: More than that? You have this agreement. You are our
- 21:08Speaker 3: minor league system.
- 21:09Speaker 4: You benefit from it because the NFL and the scouting
- 21:16Speaker 4: departments in the league and everybody else.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Use you.
- 21:21Speaker 4: As a outsourcing tool to cultivate talent for us until
- 21:26Speaker 4: they get to the show.
- 21:28Speaker 3: And then we take over.
- 21:30Speaker 4: The NCAA loves it because the popularity of the NFL
- 21:33Speaker 4: breeds into college football. And then you're looking at college
- 21:36Speaker 4: football players. I mean, how many times do we talk about, hey,
- 21:41Speaker 4: ex-college football player is really good. Let's look at Mel
- 21:45Speaker 4: Kuyper's mock draft and see where he's going to go.
- 21:47Speaker 3: All of this helps. They help each other.
- 21:50Speaker 4: It's a mutually beneficial relationship with no money exchange between
- 21:55Speaker 4: the two. To say that you can bring that guy
- 22:00Speaker 4: back down and use it as your minor league system,
- 22:03Speaker 4: I think is a legitimate argument.
- 22:05Speaker 3: But here's the problem. When you're drawing the line.
- 22:10Speaker 4: Between professionals, and we'll call them semi-professionals, aren't amateurs now, semi-pros.
- 22:20Speaker 4: When you're drawing the line between that, it's always existed
- 22:25Speaker 4: at least in a different ecosystem. And I think part
- 22:31Speaker 4: of the problem here is, you.
- 22:34Speaker 3: Know, I lived in a college football starved town in that.
- 22:44Speaker 4: They had a college football team that was once really
- 22:46Speaker 4: good that hasn't been good in a long time. And
- 22:51Speaker 4: I remember with some changes within college football, a traditionally
- 22:55Speaker 4: minded college football fan said, is very similar to a
- 23:00Speaker 4: traditionally minded baseball fan in which we don't want our
- 23:05Speaker 4: sport to change. It's been this way my entire life.
- 23:09Speaker 4: That's how I want it to stay.
- 23:10Speaker 3: I know this. I like this. This is the product
- 23:13Speaker 3: that I want.
- 23:16Speaker 4: And as the times are changing, what you need to
- 23:18Speaker 4: do more than anything else is change the minds of
- 23:22Speaker 4: those people, which is going to be incredibly difficult. The
- 23:30Speaker 4: guy from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, or the guy from Lincoln, Nebraska,
- 23:34Speaker 4: or the guy from Columbus, Ohio, or Ann Arbor, Michigan,
- 23:42Speaker 4: like in living in the state of Michigan for a year,
- 23:46Speaker 4: they love all their professional sports teams. They love the
- 23:49Speaker 4: Lions and Wings and Pistons and.
- 23:52Speaker 3: Tigers when they're good.
- 23:55Speaker 4: But they really love college football, too. They love the Wolverines.
- 23:59Speaker 4: They love Sparty. They love the basketball teams in college too.
- 24:04Speaker 4: And some of them, and this is where I think
- 24:07Speaker 4: Michigan is a little bit different.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Ohio is kind of the same way.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Some of them will have the college team ranked above
- 24:15Speaker 4: the professional teams as far as what they love the most.
- 24:21Speaker 3: And when you.
- 24:22Speaker 4: Have this type of mindset, It's very hard for people
- 24:27Speaker 4: who feel like they have given and ceded ground over
- 24:31Speaker 4: the last decade on, okay, I guess it's just you
- 24:33Speaker 4: can transfer whenever you want to. Oh, I guess that
- 24:36Speaker 4: kids can just make millions of dollars a year. But this,
- 24:45Speaker 4: to a lot of them, feels like a step too far.
- 24:51Speaker 4: But part of this, I think, goes back to the
- 24:53Speaker 4: idea that what the NFL doesn't want They don't want
- 24:56Speaker 4: a fifth-round pick because here's what's different. When they mention
- 25:02Speaker 4: hockey and baseball, when you send somebody down to the
- 25:07Speaker 4: minors in baseball or somebody goes back to college after
- 25:12Speaker 4: being drafted by a team in hockey, you retain the
- 25:16Speaker 4: rights of those players. You still have them. And what
- 25:20Speaker 4: the NFL is arguing is we do this already. It's
- 25:23Speaker 4: called practice squad. If they go back to college, they
- 25:29Speaker 4: are not your property anymore. So let's say you take
- 25:34Speaker 4: a fifth round pick. And he's right there on the
- 25:37Speaker 4: roster bubble. And it's a, you know what's a good example?
- 25:41Speaker 4: A Justin Jolie here in Broncos camp. Fifth round pick
- 25:45Speaker 4: at a position that you were looking to upgrade. I
- 25:47Speaker 4: don't know if he's going to make the team or not.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Let's say that the Broncos decide on Sunday when it's
- 25:53Speaker 4: cut down day that Justin Jolie was just outside that
- 25:57Speaker 4: roster bubble and he's now going to be a practice
- 25:59Speaker 4: squad member. But somebody from college says, I'll pay you
- 26:02Speaker 4: two million bucks to come down to, I don't know,
- 26:04Speaker 4: you pick the team, Florida, and come play. Well, if
- 26:10Speaker 4: he goes and does that, the Broncos no longer have
- 26:12Speaker 4: the rights to Justin Jolie anymore. And that becomes the issue.
- 26:18Speaker 4: And I don't think there's going to be any world now.
- 26:21Speaker 4: in which this would be the first time in a
- 26:24Speaker 4: long time, maybe in my lifetime, that the NFL and
- 26:30Speaker 4: NCAA would be literally head-butting on the idea of college
- 26:34Speaker 4: would say, this is great, put this guy back down
- 26:36Speaker 4: in our league.
- 26:37Speaker 3: He'd be a star.
- 26:38Speaker 4: He would shine. He would do this and that and
- 26:40Speaker 4: make money for himself. And the NFL would say, but
- 26:43Speaker 4: what do I get out of it? Because he's no
- 26:45Speaker 4: longer a part of my roster. But there is something
- 26:51Speaker 4: to be said, and this applies in life as much
- 26:55Speaker 4: as it does sports. When change happens, change is hard
- 27:03Speaker 4: for people.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Have you guys ever moved before? It's difficult.
- 27:07Speaker 4: When you go from one place to the next place,
- 27:09Speaker 4: you're trying to establish a new life, make new friends,
- 27:12Speaker 4: have a new job, do this and do that. Get
- 27:15Speaker 4: used to a new, whatever the new vibe of your
- 27:18Speaker 4: city is, probably different from where you move from.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Change is difficult.
- 27:26Speaker 5: Yes, but hopefully when you find a solution, the place
- 27:29Speaker 5: you end up, hopefully it's enough.
- 27:32Speaker 1: It's time for another Rock Paper Tickets keyword.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Enough.
- 27:36Speaker 5: Coach, have you seen enough to not have to play.
- 27:39Speaker 3: Bo next week?
- 27:39Speaker 2: I want to play them all until the third quarter
- 27:41Speaker 2: next week.
- 27:42Speaker 3: I understand. Appreciate the question.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Enough.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Text it in now to 303-504-0925.
- 27:48Speaker 3: That's your first keyword of the day.
- 27:51Speaker 4: It is enough to 303-504-0925 with your first and last name.
- 27:55Speaker 4: We'll draw a qualifier five minutes before the top of
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- 28:03Speaker 4: gets a trip to KC with flights, hotel, and tickets
- 28:07Speaker 4: to the first game of the season, Denver at KC
- 28:10Speaker 4: on Monday Night Football. It's all powered by Bud Light,
- 28:12Speaker 4: the official beer sponsor of the Denver Broncos. Enough is
- 28:18Speaker 4: what a lot of people are saying. And this is
- 28:20Speaker 4: what I'm getting at with change. You can deal with change,
- 28:23Speaker 4: but you can't deal with a ton of change at once.
- 28:25Speaker 4: And the texture says, boomers won't like it is not
- 28:28Speaker 4: really an argument as to how it's a bad thing.
- 28:31Speaker 3: It's not boomers. It's your fan base.
- 28:33Speaker 4: Okay, boomer.
- 28:36Speaker 3: It's your fan base. It's not boomers. It's consumers. Consumers
- 28:43Speaker 3: of your product. Look, man, if you ran a.
- 28:48Speaker 4: coffee shop and you had a coffee that everybody really
- 28:51Speaker 4: liked and then you changed the recipe and it wasn't
- 28:54Speaker 4: as good and your regulars who came in and all
- 28:57Speaker 4: these new people were like, yeah, I think this is
- 29:00Speaker 4: worse than what it was before.
- 29:04Speaker 3: You can't just say, well, suck it, boomer.
- 29:07Speaker 4: We're changing. You have to listen to your consumer. And
- 29:16Speaker 4: texture says being able to go back to college is
- 29:18Speaker 4: long overdue. And this is what's best for every single
- 29:20Speaker 4: person involved. If an NFL team cuts you, that's a
- 29:23Speaker 4: them problem. Well, it's one thing about being cut, I suppose.
- 29:32Speaker 4: It's another thing of they have a practice squad. And
- 29:37Speaker 4: if this is the case.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Practice squad is kind of what this is for.
- 29:48Speaker 4: Like everybody, what you guys are talking about here, and
- 29:50Speaker 4: another person says, how is that any different when you
- 29:53Speaker 4: cut a player?
- 29:53Speaker 3: He's no longer your property.
- 29:55Speaker 4: I'm saying if you wanted to cut a guy to
- 29:57Speaker 4: keep him on practice squad, because here's what happens on Sunday.
- 30:00Speaker 4: Everybody goes through a line of cuts. When the cuts happen,
- 30:05Speaker 4: if you pass through waivers, you can be signed back
- 30:07Speaker 4: to a practice squad. And I just think in that sense,
- 30:13Speaker 4: it changes a lot of the way that you do business. Now,
- 30:20Speaker 4: what happens here? What happens if a guy is drafted
- 30:24Speaker 4: the fifth round and he got advice he was going
- 30:26Speaker 4: to be a second rounder, but because he went in
- 30:27Speaker 4: the fifth round, he wants to go back to college
- 30:29Speaker 4: because he'd make more money. These are all the things
- 30:34Speaker 4: that I'm talking about that this could lead to. In
- 30:36Speaker 4: the case of Daquan Wright specifically, he's being cut. He's
- 30:40Speaker 4: not picked up by another team. On its face, I
- 30:43Speaker 4: think I'm fine with it. I guess you can go
- 30:45Speaker 4: back to college if you want to. But this is
- 30:50Speaker 4: another massive shift that I just don't know if people
- 30:53Speaker 4: were really expecting.
- 30:56Speaker 3: So again, 303-504-0925.
- 30:57Speaker 4: Um, He just says, could an NFL team beset by
- 31:06Speaker 4: injuries call up a kid from college?
- 31:16Speaker 3: Let's get weird. Seriously. I mean, in this world that
- 31:25Speaker 3: we're heading to, maybe.
- 31:26Speaker 4: But I don't even think an NFL team would do
- 31:30Speaker 4: that because it would take so long to get these
- 31:32Speaker 4: guys on ramped.
- 31:33Speaker 3: There's no way.
- 31:39Speaker 4: There's no way that you could call up a kid
- 31:41Speaker 4: from college who hasn't been on an NFL roster all
- 31:43Speaker 4: year and then just say, you're ready to play now.
- 31:49Speaker 4: I am just somebody that I think, these are two
- 31:52Speaker 4: different leagues. Even though they are mutually beneficial to one another,
- 31:57Speaker 4: they have no partnership with each other. And I don't
- 32:02Speaker 4: think that college football would like the idea of we're
- 32:05Speaker 4: getting late in the year, it's getting around the SEC championship,
- 32:09Speaker 4: and then three guys get called up from Bama to
- 32:11Speaker 4: go play in the NFL.
- 32:12Speaker 3: It's not good for them either.
- 32:16Speaker 4: When it's a AAA team in Albuquerque, and they're playing
- 32:21Speaker 4: for the AAA championship, yeah, you want to win the
- 32:24Speaker 4: AAA championship, but if the Rockies are contending in September,
- 32:27Speaker 4: then you need to call up the guys that are
- 32:29Speaker 4: going to give the Rockies the best shot.
- 32:31Speaker 3: Because they're partners. So, I don't know. I understand Crackman
- 32:40Speaker 3: Lindahl's argument.
- 32:41Speaker 4: I mean, their argument is like, it's basically a wink-wink,
- 32:45Speaker 4: a nudge-nudge agreement that they have with college football anyway,
- 32:47Speaker 4: but they are separate things.
- 32:49Speaker 3: They're separate entities.
- 32:50Speaker 1: College football!
- 32:52Speaker 3: Within one another.
- 32:54Speaker 4: So 303-504-0925, shop mods to text line, one price, one person,
- 32:58Speaker 4: one hour, back after this.
- 32:59Speaker 3: All right, I was flipping through the channels yesterday.
- 33:01Speaker 4: I need your guys' help, because I don't know what
- 33:03Speaker 4: this is, but on TNT, there was something.
- 33:07Speaker 3: There was something, I.
- 33:09Speaker 4: Forget the name of it, but it was some dunk
- 33:13Speaker 4: contest thing with Mac McClung and other dudes.
- 33:16Speaker 3: This guy looks like an accountant.
- 33:19Speaker 4: And they were throwing down some cool dunks. But I
- 33:23Speaker 4: have a genuine question. Because this is something I don't understand.
- 33:30Speaker 4: What is the appeal in watching people you don't know
- 33:36Speaker 4: dunk the basketball?
- 33:41Speaker 3: Who is this show for?
- 33:42Speaker 4: And I'm not, if you are a viewer of that show,
- 33:47Speaker 4: I'm not chastising you for this. I'm just asking. Does
- 33:51Speaker 4: anybody know what I'm talking about here? That was on
- 33:53Speaker 4: TNT last night. And it was like a couple of
- 33:59Speaker 4: nerdy looking white dudes, Duncan doing three sixties beneath the legs,
- 34:03Speaker 4: all this different stuff. And I don't know what this
- 34:08Speaker 4: show is. And I don't know who the show is for.
- 34:11Speaker 4: Now I have been one. Don't get me wrong to
- 34:15Speaker 4: watch some really dumb television. I watched some stupid shows.
- 34:22Speaker 4: But there's something about that one that bothered me. And
- 34:27Speaker 4: I think it's because when you think about dunk contests,
- 34:31Speaker 4: especially in the NBA, the reason why you want to
- 34:37Speaker 4: watch the dunk contest is because the dunk man, thank you,
- 34:43Speaker 4: you want to watch people you know doing it. When
- 34:49Speaker 4: Mac McClung won, the dunk contest, you know, a couple
- 34:52Speaker 4: years in a row, but he was a G leaguer. Like,
- 34:55Speaker 4: this is terrible. I don't want to watch a YouTuber
- 35:01Speaker 4: go out and dunk. I want to watch the best
- 35:04Speaker 4: of the best. It's part of the reason why I
- 35:05Speaker 4: love the Home Run Derby. The Home Run Derby isn't
- 35:08Speaker 4: some guy who mashes in AAA that you've never heard of.
- 35:11Speaker 4: Why is that appealing? You want to see Shohei. And
- 35:17Speaker 4: this is like, Again, maybe I'm just getting too old.
- 35:23Speaker 4: And I'll just chalk it up to that. I have
- 35:25Speaker 4: two children. I have one that's in preschool now. And
- 35:31Speaker 4: maybe I am just losing my touch. I'm losing my
- 35:35Speaker 4: fastball here. I thought about this the other day. Some
- 35:39Speaker 4: of the thoughts that are going through my head now
- 35:42Speaker 4: as I'll turn 37 in December. The thoughts that go
- 35:48Speaker 4: through my head Of things that used to not bother
- 35:54Speaker 4: me now do bother me. There's a car that drove
- 35:57Speaker 4: too fast on the street in my neighborhood and I
- 36:00Speaker 4: wanted to throw a rock at it.
- 36:02Speaker 3: It's over, pal. Seriously, I'm cooked. I'm cooked.
- 36:08Speaker 4: But the fact that this show was on my television
- 36:11Speaker 4: bothered me. And all I have to do is scroll
- 36:15Speaker 4: by it. But I almost hate watched it. A texture says,
- 36:19Speaker 4: watch for their athleticism. Who cares about their name?
- 36:22Speaker 3: But I've just.
- 36:28Speaker 3: Like, I don't want to go... How about this?
- 36:32Speaker 4: If those same people were at your local 24-hour fitness
- 36:36Speaker 4: and they were dunking like that, I think I'd just leave.
- 36:42Speaker 3: When I'm done with my workout.
- 36:43Speaker 4: I don't think I would sit there on, you know,
- 36:45Speaker 4: the sideline of the court and like, well, I don't know.
- 36:49Speaker 3: What it is. You like that? Like I said, I'm
- 36:53Speaker 3: being a jerk. I know.
- 36:56Speaker 4: You can't yell at me for something I'm admitting already
- 36:58Speaker 4: on the front end. But I just, I, it's the
- 37:05Speaker 4: same thing as, I don't understand how, Nelly, do you
- 37:08Speaker 4: watch these streamer people?
- 37:11Speaker 3: You'll watch like Twitch streamers and people like that.
- 37:14Speaker 5: And I have no idea how they become famous. And
- 37:17Speaker 5: they're just a thing. I've never heard of them in
- 37:19Speaker 5: my life. And then everybody goes, oh, I show speed.
- 37:22Speaker 5: He's the biggest celebrity on earth. He walks on water
- 37:24Speaker 5: and I go, I've never, I've never heard of him. Like,
- 37:27Speaker 5: where did he come from?
- 37:28Speaker 3: Or where did he?
- 37:29Speaker 5: Kai Sinat, that guy.
- 37:32Speaker 4: So I, again, I haven't watched them. So maybe they're
- 37:37Speaker 4: just really entertaining. That's the reason why. But a lot
- 37:41Speaker 4: of these, I've seen videos of guys that are like,
- 37:43Speaker 4: they're watching clips of other videos while they're playing a
- 37:48Speaker 4: video game and they're commenting on the thing at the
- 37:50Speaker 4: same time. It's a very confusing thing. I'm very confused
- 37:53Speaker 4: by this. And you guys know me. I have an
- 37:56Speaker 4: older soul to start with. The music I listen to
- 37:59Speaker 4: is older. I'm very much somebody, I'm anti-AI. I don't
- 38:08Speaker 4: like any of this stuff.
- 38:09Speaker 3: This is how.
- 38:11Speaker 4: She says, I watch you on Twitch every day. But
- 38:13Speaker 4: this is just, it's simulcasting the radio show.
- 38:17Speaker 3: To me, radio has existed for 100 years. It's a
- 38:25Speaker 3: good point.
- 38:26Speaker 5: Or what I don't understand.
- 38:27Speaker 3: I guess we are on Twitch.
- 38:29Speaker 4: I mean.
- 38:29Speaker 5: Yes, but still, we're not playing video games and having 10,000
- 38:34Speaker 5: people watching us all at once. And also, sometimes these
- 38:37Speaker 5: Twitch streamers who I've never heard of in my life,
- 38:40Speaker 5: a video will go viral where they're hanging out with, like,
- 38:43Speaker 5: Kevin Durant in the back of a limo, and I go,
- 38:45Speaker 5: how does this 20-year-old who plays Fortnite pull Kevin Durant?
- 38:49Speaker 2: I know.
- 38:49Speaker 5: Or it's like Kevin Hart and LeBron James and.
- 38:55Speaker 5: Soccer fan x247x whatever their username is like how did
- 39:00Speaker 5: you pull those celebrities because you play video games the
- 39:03Speaker 5: streaming world is just beyond me it's crazy man.
- 39:06Speaker 4: It's beyond my comprehension too now texture says Brett did
- 39:09Speaker 4: you ever watch slam ball the one where they played
- 39:11Speaker 4: on trampolines it's the same thing you don't know a
- 39:13Speaker 4: damn person on the screen but it was entertaining as
- 39:15Speaker 4: hell to see how the crazy those dunks were No,
- 39:18Speaker 4: I disagree with you.
- 39:19Speaker 3: That is not the same. I did watch slam ball,
- 39:22Speaker 3: but slam ball was, it was a, it was a sport.
- 39:27Speaker 3: And I liked it because there was contact. Two guys
- 39:29Speaker 3: would like. meet at the rim and like kill each other.
- 39:32Speaker 3: I loved it.
- 39:37Speaker 4: Anyway, I was just, I didn't know what the show was.
- 39:40Speaker 4: It's the first time I came across it. And to
- 39:42Speaker 4: be honest, I have this bias against Mac McClung already.
- 39:47Speaker 4: I don't like what he's done to my NBA dunk contest.
- 39:49Speaker 4: I don't like how the list of dunk contest champions
- 39:54Speaker 4: are going to be like Dr. J and Michael Jordan
- 39:58Speaker 4: and Mac McClung. Oh, good for you.
- 40:01Speaker 3: So I am biased.
- 40:05Speaker 5: Did he go what? Three-peat? He went back-to-back, right? Didn't
- 40:09Speaker 5: he three-peat or something?
- 40:10Speaker 3: It was two or three. I can't remember what it was.
- 40:13Speaker 5: Mac McClung is to the dunk contest what Mariah Carey
- 40:17Speaker 5: is to Christmas. Like, the dunk contest comes around, time
- 40:20Speaker 5: to wake up Mac McClung from whatever G League team
- 40:22Speaker 5: he's playing in. It's your time to shine, buddy.
- 40:25Speaker 4: I'll tell you what soured me on, like, the Twitch
- 40:28Speaker 4: stuff as we broadcast on Twitch. And I don't mean
- 40:31Speaker 4: Twitch the platform. It's how people consume it. Do you remember, Nelly,
- 40:36Speaker 4: the days of when we first put our show up
- 40:40Speaker 4: on Twitch for this simulcast, this radio show? And, well,
- 40:45Speaker 4: at this time, Mario was still sitting in your chair.
- 40:48Speaker 4: And he'd walk in. It'd be like 5.55 in the morning.
- 40:51Speaker 4: And you want to see who has 120,000 viewers right now?
- 40:57Speaker 4: And it's a chick in a hot tub who I said,
- 40:59Speaker 4: I've turned this on for five minutes.
- 41:01Speaker 3: She hasn't said a word yet. I go, who's... Who's
- 41:05Speaker 3: watching that? It's not entertainment. It's just a woman sitting there.
- 41:10Speaker 5: I don't think people are tuning in to hear what
- 41:12Speaker 5: she has to say. I think they want to see
- 41:15Speaker 5: her take those little piggies to market, Brett.
- 41:17Speaker 3: But is that all it takes?
- 41:20Speaker 4: What's the man loophole I can get into where I
- 41:22Speaker 4: can just sit on a screen without speaking?
- 41:25Speaker 5: I'll take a look at your loophole if that's what's
- 41:27Speaker 5: going to get us views.
- 41:29Speaker 3: Hey, my loophole's up. It was just a girl in
- 41:34Speaker 3: a hot tub. Wearing a bikini. 120,000 viewers.
- 41:37Speaker 4: And I looked at our Twitch at that time. I'm like,
- 41:40Speaker 4: three people are watching me right now. Why are we
- 41:42Speaker 4: even on this platform?
- 41:44Speaker 5: Have we ever tried broadcasting Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane live
- 41:46Speaker 5: from a hot tub?
- 41:47Speaker 3: Well, we talked about it.
- 41:48Speaker 4: Vic's got a hot tub, and we're like, we should
- 41:50Speaker 4: do a show from Vic's hot tub.
- 41:52Speaker 5: I mean, and we have the sponsor, Flatirons Fire.
- 41:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:55Speaker 5: Do we want to do a show live from a sauna?
- 41:57Speaker 3: All your patio needs?
- 41:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:59Speaker 5: Fire pit? We can make this happen.
- 42:03Speaker 4: Um. By the way, I find this not funny, but
- 42:08Speaker 4: pretty crazy. So, Ian Rappaport said, His play has made
- 42:17Speaker 4: the plan to make him the starter at the beginning
- 42:20Speaker 4: of the season.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Quote, impossible.
- 42:24Speaker 4: I'll make a comparison. Michael Panik's knee was in a
- 42:30Speaker 4: million pieces. He was not going to be ready to
- 42:32Speaker 4: start this year. Tua was running, and if this was
- 42:37Speaker 4: like a political race, unopposed for the starting job. And
- 42:45Speaker 4: I guess has seemingly still lost it. And that's hard
- 42:52Speaker 4: to do. So he says it's an alarming sign, quote,
- 42:57Speaker 4: not just in the preseason game, but it sounds like
- 43:00Speaker 4: practice as well, Rappaport says. It is Michael Penix's job
- 43:05Speaker 4: for the taking. They brought him in to start, and
- 43:11Speaker 4: he played so poorly, they're like, there's.
- 43:14Speaker 3: No way we can do this.
- 43:15Speaker 4: And it's amazing to me, how is it possible that
- 43:19Speaker 4: a guy that played so well just a few years
- 43:22Speaker 4: back has nothing left in the tank? And I know
- 43:25Speaker 4: he's got the head injuries, but can't you still throw
- 43:28Speaker 4: a football on time, in rhythm?
- 43:32Speaker 3: I guess the answer is no.
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