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Maul Shadow Lord New Animation & Dynasty of Evil Review CCLXXIV · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I am your host, Clay, and with me
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  Speaker 2: like always is Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Hello everyone. You know what I was doing good enough
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  Speaker 3: to make social media posts on our stores.
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  Speaker 2: And I just realized you need to send me the
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  Speaker 2: link to that shirt. On Wednesdays we wear Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: of course, and I have never seen that shirt before and.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember where I picked it up. I know
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go back and look at my receipts.
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  Speaker 3: This has artwork on it with it. For the YouTubers,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you read it because I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: say what it is, just in case.
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  Speaker 2: You know well. But also the the I've learned that
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  Speaker 2: algorithms and even just vocal.
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  Speaker 3: You know who in question.
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  Speaker 2: It's so stupid, It's legitimately stupid.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, if Clay finds if I find the link
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  Speaker 3: to the shirt, because it was a podcasters shirt site,
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  Speaker 3: I do remember that I don't remember which podcast, but
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  Speaker 3: if if we find the link, then Clay will put
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  Speaker 3: it in the description box below for everybody on the
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  Speaker 3: podcast side of things to look at.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see it immediately when I search those words
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  Speaker 2: and sabine t shirt. So well, I'll go on a
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  Speaker 2: little hunt tonight and see if I can find it.
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  Speaker 2: But guys, we have very little news and much of
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  Speaker 2: anything to talk about, so of course we were not
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  Speaker 2: live last week, more so due to some private matters
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  Speaker 2: and everything else. You guys did, of course see that
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  Speaker 2: we have our low Red Moon review now up, so
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  Speaker 2: if you guys are interested, I would almost even say
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  Speaker 2: if you've played the game but you haven't, of course
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  Speaker 2: read the book, because the book is wait, is the
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  Speaker 2: book out? Yeah? Hold on, no, no, next week on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: That's right, next week. I would even say.
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  Speaker 3: We did not talk major spoilers, so I feel like
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  Speaker 3: you could.
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  Speaker 2: You could if you've watched if you've either watched the
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  Speaker 2: cut scenes or played the game, I would say you
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  Speaker 2: could still listen to our review. And then if you
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  Speaker 2: have played the game, I would say it's almost one
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  Speaker 2: recommended that you read the book because story it was
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  Speaker 2: so good, so good, it was so good.
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  Speaker 3: We do have two things of news to talk about. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of news, like Klay said, but some news.
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  Speaker 3: The first bit of news is kind of more minor,
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  Speaker 3: but it looks like Star Wars Lucasfilm Publishing is bridging
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  Speaker 3: out in their comic endeavors, and we'll be working with
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  Speaker 3: Mad Cave Studios.
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  Speaker 2: Mad Cave and paper Cuts. I used to work with
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  Speaker 2: them when I worked with Lunar. It is a great company.
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  Speaker 2: It is very family friendly. I was very excited at
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  Speaker 2: this news. Sorry to cut you off there, but I
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  Speaker 2: was genuinely excited. I saw this news not on any
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  Speaker 2: social media because I don't really count LinkedIn as social media,
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  Speaker 2: even though it is. It's more professional, and so when
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  Speaker 2: I saw the news there on LinkedIn, I got really
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  Speaker 2: really excited. So Star Wars is in good hands over
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  Speaker 2: there over at paper Cuts. So if you guys are
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  Speaker 2: looking for more of a family friendly, kid friendly adaptation,
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  Speaker 2: this will definitely be it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it says that they're going to be focusing, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, family friendly, solely middle grade Star Wars graphic novels.
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  Speaker 3: So very excited that this is not going to be
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  Speaker 3: individual comics that will then be transposed into a graphic novel.
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  Speaker 3: So like this means like this is the first grap Basically,
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  Speaker 3: both graphic novels that are currently planned will be released
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  Speaker 3: this fall. The first book named Star Wars Smugglers and
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  Speaker 3: Scoundrels The Race for Javas Bounty is written by none
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  Speaker 3: other than Kevin Scott's UH, with art by Christian Colbert,
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  Speaker 3: and when teasing the story, Scott says that this will
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  Speaker 3: be Jackson's one of his favorite characters from Legends that
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  Speaker 3: he's been able to introduce back into canon, and so
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  Speaker 3: this will be Jackson's first meeting with long term rival
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  Speaker 3: Hans Solo. The summary is available on your favorite comic
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  Speaker 3: publisher of sorts. We're not going to read that for you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: But the second one UH is entitled Star Wars Tales
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  Speaker 3: from the Outer Rim the Legend of Beggars Canyon, and
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  Speaker 3: it is written by Greg Pack with art by Brint Shootover.
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  Speaker 3: And this one it highlights eerie forces awaiting Luke and
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  Speaker 3: Biggs and Beggars Canyon and a story that Pack describes
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  Speaker 3: as a rare study of Luke's relationship with his seldom
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  Speaker 3: seen childhood friends and enemies. This story also reintroduces a
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  Speaker 3: Legends deep cut character named Tank. So familiar it was
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  Speaker 3: it was going around on social media over the past
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  Speaker 3: couple of days, but is very deep cut, and so guys,
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  Speaker 3: I think this is Pack's first Star Wars comic. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like, uh.
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  Speaker 2: No, Greg Pack has done Star Wars for Marble. I
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  Speaker 2: do believe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not seeing it. Hold on, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's done recent Darth Vader.
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  Speaker 2: Run hold on a second. See, guys, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Why you don't trust Wikipedia, because Wikipedia does not have everything.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, he did the Age of Rebellion comics and
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  Speaker 3: then he also tackle. He's done several Star Wars twenty
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  Speaker 3: fifteen comics.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think that's what got him the gig
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  Speaker 2: Darth Vader. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so his the main thing he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: known for is Drive Beer twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So as far as like Star Wars goes, those
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  Speaker 2: are his big things. He's also done things. He's done
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  Speaker 2: other things at Marvel. He's done Hulk, he's done Silver Surfer,
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  Speaker 2: he's done Magneto. I think he's also done like Stranger
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  Speaker 2: Things over a dark Horse, like He's He's done a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff. Greg Pac really really fun writer. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really really interested in the page count for these because
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  Speaker 2: I have two graphic novels from paper cuts that I
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  Speaker 2: gave Amber Lynn, one of them being a Disney's Disney Fairies,
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  Speaker 2: the Tinkerbell Books a graphic novel as well as a
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what's the movie about the girl who
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  Speaker 2: turns Red Panda? Red Panda? Yeah, we also were able
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  Speaker 2: to get her a Red Panda graphic novel from paper Cuts.
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  Speaker 2: Great format, really good way to teach kids how to
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  Speaker 2: read comics with paper cuts. So if you ever want
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  Speaker 2: to go that route. Nice.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it looks like the Race for Job Is Bounty,
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  Speaker 3: the one from Cavin Scott, will be available September fifteenth,
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and then The Legend of Beggars Canyon
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  Speaker 3: with Greg Pack will be available October thirteenth of this year.
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  Speaker 3: So happy birthday in me, all right. So to the
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  Speaker 3: trailer that we were teased with. I think this is
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  Speaker 3: the first time we've had to tease for a Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars trailer like the day before it came out. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: I know we've had like teaser trailers, but like this
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  Speaker 3: was like we got notification what Wednesday? I think it
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  Speaker 3: was the it was the day before, yeah yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: it was like, oh, yeah, tomorrow trailer.
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  Speaker 2: It may have actually been Tuesday actually when I think
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  Speaker 2: about it, because.
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  Speaker 3: I think I remember that. Yeah, because and I say
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  Speaker 3: remember that, y'all make fun of my memory all you went.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, dang, if we've been recording Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: we would have been able to cover this drive.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to give anybody flak, especially not
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  Speaker 2: you KD because most people don't know. Mommy brain lasts
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: up to four years, which is absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 3: And especially with migraine brain just in general, the brain
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  Speaker 3: fuzzes is real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a trailer which is in fact the
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  Speaker 2: trailer that was shown at Celebration. I believe, I believe
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  Speaker 2: I saw one. I believe I saw one or two
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  Speaker 2: people did confirm that it was the trailer from Celebration.
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  Speaker 2: We had only seen maybe like one small teaser from
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  Speaker 2: it from Celebration, and then everything else was just taken
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  Speaker 2: down super quickly, so nobody really got to see that
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  Speaker 2: trailer this I I'm trying to get it on my computer,
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  Speaker 2: and my computer's running slow for some reason. But I
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  Speaker 2: really enjoyed the look of this. And the reason why
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  Speaker 2: I say I enjoy the look of this because we
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  Speaker 2: will talk about the animation here in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: it's dark.
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  Speaker 3: I love it as it.
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  Speaker 2: Should be because this is a Sith Lord series. But
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  Speaker 2: there was a moment where I like blinked and I
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  Speaker 2: missed it, but I saw the aftermath and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Maul just you know, shot his lightsaber through the juggular
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  Speaker 2: of somebody. Why would they show that in a trailer?
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  Speaker 2: And I had to watch it twice and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: wait a second, that's a droid. Okay. Yeah, but still
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  Speaker 2: the precision, the malice, like the violence of it is
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  Speaker 2: still very dark. And I kind of like the direction.
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  Speaker 2: I like how much they're getting into it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like just it feels like Star Wars
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  Speaker 3: kind of taking a step back, and like, especially with
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  Speaker 3: the tea ceremony in the beginning, like it's going back
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  Speaker 3: to its heritage almost, and like I just love it.
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  Speaker 3: So this takes place primarily on the planet Janis, which
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  Speaker 3: is a completely new planet, and the way they phrased
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  Speaker 3: it is like basically this planet is like Metropolis and
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  Speaker 3: Gotham all in one sort of thing, and just the
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  Speaker 3: artwork and the animation, it looks incredible. Guys, this is
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  Speaker 3: this does feel like Clone Wars animation on first glips. However,
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  Speaker 3: they have improved on and kind of taking it to
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  Speaker 3: the next level. Obviously, we've seen the hairstyles of Clone Wars.
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  Speaker 3: This is just one example of guys, but we've seen
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  Speaker 3: the hairstyles of Clone Wars. Guys. These people actually have
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  Speaker 3: hair like hairals in this. This is not just the
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  Speaker 3: helmet hair.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't blockie hairstyles. I like this. It gives it fluidity.
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  Speaker 2: It has fluidity. Did I just said the witty it.
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  Speaker 2: I like the flow of it, like literally, like I
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  Speaker 2: like how everything moves. Yeah. And I saw a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people were like, why does it look so weird?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, guys, we've been through this for eighteen years. Yeah, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, blew my freaking mind, Brent, So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, Brint. Brent shared a video with
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  Speaker 2: me and it was, of course, uh the Ahsoka actress.
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  Speaker 2: She was, Yes, Ashley. She went to Disneyland to celebrate
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  Speaker 2: Ahsoka Day. I believe it it was Ahsoka Day. I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember. Let me actually just pull it up. My
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  Speaker 2: volumes all the way down. I don't know if anybody
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  Speaker 2: actually heard. Just a couple of minutes ago, my sound
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  Speaker 2: was just blaring when I tried to grab the trailer. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: but where's Brent. Brent showed me this video and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what is going on? So in the video
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  Speaker 2: it says it has been Ashley the actress who brought
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  Speaker 2: Ahsokatana to life eighteen years ago. She was at Disney
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  Speaker 2: World in Galaxy's Edge, right, yeah, and I just uh
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  Speaker 2: And it says Ashley surprises fans on Ahsokatano Day. So
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  Speaker 2: it was Ahsokatana Day three days ago. I watched it
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  Speaker 2: twice and then I finally realized what it said at
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  Speaker 2: the caption. It's been eighteen years since the movie came
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  Speaker 2: out in theaters.
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  Speaker 3: That's insane.
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  Speaker 2: Eighteen Holy crap.
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  Speaker 3: Like, guys, I turned thirty this past year. So I
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  Speaker 3: always like to make fun of the gua guys, because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like the.
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  Speaker 2: Youngest of the n you are the youngest of everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like just the fact that that shocks me
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  Speaker 3: too is just like wild. Yeah, that's insane.
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  Speaker 2: I need Okay, So she is how old is she? Wow?
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  Speaker 2: She's older than I thought she was. She's forty four,
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  Speaker 2: So thirty four, she was twenty six, twenty six ft yeah,
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  Speaker 2: WinCE her birthday, It really depends, but yeah, twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: she was twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: Insane insane.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Eighteen years ago, I was gosh, I was I was
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  Speaker 2: about to graduate. It was junior year, senior year, one
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  Speaker 2: of between the two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen years ago, I was being homeschooled.
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  Speaker 2: So absolutely insane when I when I saw it, it
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  Speaker 2: had been eighteen years, blew my mind. And I just
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  Speaker 2: want to say, we have been here for eighteen years,
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  Speaker 2: have we? Guys? I was there midnight release in my
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  Speaker 2: homemade Jedi robe at the theater. My dad fell asleep
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  Speaker 2: because he didn't like the animation. There's people that were
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  Speaker 2: in the theater that were talking because they didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: I remember all the hate that this show got.
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  Speaker 3: I actually was not in theaters because of just because
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  Speaker 3: of my age. My mom was like, no, we only
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: go to the theaters on Christmas Day because I have
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I have three siblings. It's expensive to take six people
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  Speaker 3: to the movies, even back then in two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 3: So but y'all, I had been a Star Wars fan,
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  Speaker 3: I've been here. I would have gone to the theaters
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  Speaker 3: if I'd been allowed to.
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  Speaker 2: And like I understand, like guys, freaking into the Spider Verse.
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  Speaker 2: People thought it was weird looking in the trailer. When
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  Speaker 2: the movie came out, people were like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Shit, right, I still do think it's weird looking. I
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  Speaker 3: don't vibe with the comic style animation.
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  Speaker 2: I think I I was watching like we're in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of watching the second one now me and Abby are,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and the second one I think when a little crazy
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  Speaker 2: with especially the changing of the color. I can see
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  Speaker 2: how it can be straining on the eyes, especially with
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  Speaker 2: your with Mira and everything else. Yeah, yes, I can
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  Speaker 2: understand why it's a little bit more difficult for you.
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  Speaker 2: We have gotten eighteen years of this animation, guys, yep,
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  Speaker 2: and you see one hair follicle and you're like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: that's weird, that's silly, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super silly, gorgeous. It looks like what we
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  Speaker 3: would expect it to feel, while also taking it up
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  Speaker 3: a notch and really going back to the basics of
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  Speaker 3: animation because animation did used to have individual hair follicles.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing different animation styles
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  Speaker 3: and seeing what people can come up with, but people
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  Speaker 3: really used to take time with the animation and really
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  Speaker 3: make it look realistic, and so I'm super happy with this.
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  Speaker 3: Visual effects director Joel Aaron uh uh. Athena Portillo even
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  Speaker 3: says he went back to the practical ways of capturing
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  Speaker 3: brushstrokes by painting them on glass and then shooting them, uh,
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  Speaker 3: shooting them with then strategically placing them on shots like.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. It's really traditional and it I'm super
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  Speaker 3: excited for this, guys. This is going to be premiering
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  Speaker 3: April sixth with two episodes, and we'll be continuing with
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  Speaker 3: two episodes a week until the finale on May fourth.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: How do we feel about this being a Monday release, Clay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it. There's there's there's a con, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a pro pro. Mondays are my day off, So
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  Speaker 2: there is no problem that I'm going to have actually
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  Speaker 2: watching this. The problem that I have is that there's
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  Speaker 2: two days until we record and now two episodes that
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  Speaker 2: I need to refresh my mind on when we actually record.
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  Speaker 2: About it, right, And we've talked to the other Geek
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  Speaker 2: First guys and the GUA guys and we assume this
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  Speaker 2: is because of Daredevil.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because Daredevil is premiering I think two weeks before
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  Speaker 3: it on the twenty fourth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the twenty fourth, a Tuesday. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that is the reason that they are. They're not
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  Speaker 2: wanting them to clash. Here's the thing. You could still
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  Speaker 2: do it on a Wednesday, like you've been doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I think the problem is is that they would rather
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  Speaker 3: have the Talk of the Town be on the live
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  Speaker 3: action thing. So by premiering it on Monday, you allowed
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  Speaker 3: Daredevil to take over Tuesday Night for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the week, for the rest of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Now, of course everybody at Lucasfilm is like, oh, but
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  Speaker 2: the finale is on May fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Oh cool. You've done it in the past where you
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  Speaker 3: just reschedule the final.
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  Speaker 2: Episode exactly exactly and up until this point. Now, again,
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  Speaker 2: this may be another reason why they're doing this is
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  Speaker 2: as of right now, there is nothing else planned for
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars Day. There's nothing else debuting on May fourth,
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  Speaker 2: So I understand that they really want the hype to
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  Speaker 2: be around this show on May fourth, which is a
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  Speaker 2: little disappointing in my mind, Like I feel like there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot more in recent years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you had the Tales of the Blank premiering
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  Speaker 3: on May fourth, and with this, I don't imagine that
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get another Tales series this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there will be one that is, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think there will be like a
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  Speaker 2: shadow drop of yeah, tales of whatever. Of course, again, guys,
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  Speaker 2: we also have Mandalorian Grogu like just on you know what,
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  Speaker 2: uh four months from.
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  Speaker 3: Now, twenty second of May May so yeah, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Like it. I don't think they're really going to try
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  Speaker 2: to push anything other than Mandalorian Grogu.
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  Speaker 3: Well you would think that though, but we've only seen
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  Speaker 3: one trailer for mandelarn Groco.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. Actually, I believe I just saw that.
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  Speaker 3: There's supposed to be another one next week.
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  Speaker 2: There's apparently a trailer already out there in theaters. Did
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  Speaker 2: I read that right?
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  Speaker 3: I saw that one. It was very close, if not
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  Speaker 3: the exact same as the one that Yeah, because I
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  Speaker 3: saw what movie did I go see? I saw the
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  Speaker 3: The Anaconda movie and it was attached to that one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Very close, if not identical trailer.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got there. I don't know, like, I like,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: what are we going to see like a a the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: timeline actually wouldn't really work. But are we going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: see some sort of like reveal at the end of
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: mall that connects to Mandalori and Grogu like, I would
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: actually kind of hate that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But what if you saw Okay, here's a question, what
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: if you saw Carl Weathers character.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: The connection there, I can I can see it because
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: because of how mal is uh kind of the underground Yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: evil dude, that is like borderline set and everything I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: can see. Of course with Carl Weathers be well, hm,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you what, No, I have to be okay. I have
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to be okay with everybody else being recasted. I have
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: to be okay with Carl Weathers being recast just the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: way it is. I think that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Especially with a voice actor, like, there's no guarantee that
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: he would well, I mean.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Because we we already have Prince Lea recasted with the voices. Yeah, so.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I think okay with my toddler, apparently she is not
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: very happy going to.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I think I think it would be okay. Actually, now
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: It, Well, the characters that we do know are present,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: so are red Twilek does look to be a former
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Jedi Padawane. Uh. Her name is Devin is Zara and
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: she is voiced by Gideon Adlon, who is a recent
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Golden Globe winner. Uh. There's a detective kind of guy
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: that makes an appearance. His name is Brandler Lawson and
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: he is being voiced by Wagner mourra uh. And then
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: we have a returning Star Wars voice actor, uh, Richard Ayo.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I'm totally gonna butcher this last name. I apologize a
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: laid as two Boots.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And he.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Was the Protocol assistant droid dude from the Force und Leash. So, oh, yes,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: what are reuniting as?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That's right, Yes, I remember you posting that in the
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Star Wars chat. Yeah, yeah, that is really cool. That
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: is really cool that Sam's first connection to Star Wars,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: like his first project in Star Wars, he gets to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: reunite with some of somebody from that cast. I think
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that's really really cool.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yes, what do you feel about us having
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: another Order sixty six survivor.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: This one? I think realistically is not controversial because of
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the timeline. Yeah, like, honestly, from what this is looking
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: like and unless this show does confirm it otherwise, this
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: is taking place after Clone Wars, but before Rebels. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: we know that Mal wanders to that temple in Rebels
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and that's where we see Mall first, right, yep. So
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: we're either gonna find out how he gets there or
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: kind of like the steps to get to that point.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: So in order to really get there, like, we need this,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: And I think that is fine. I think that is
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: fine as especially with Order sixty six in the Clone
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Wars timeline is the most recent thing we've seen. Order
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: sixty six literally was the most recent thing we've seen.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So if you guys want to refresh, literally watch the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: last three episodes of Clone Wars and then start Mal,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I bet you anything it works.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Like that, Yeah, because Mal's in the last three Yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I would imagine so as well. The other thing that
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: people can do to prepare, which I don't think we've
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: talked about this that much, is the Shadow of Mall comic.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, which is a prequel for the series. It's
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: a five issue prequel series written by Benjamin Percy. Percy, yes,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: all right, I was blending the lines together.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Was uh Percy is he's a very niche writer any
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: of your like gritty characters, so Wolverine ghostwriter all, he
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: very much knows how to write that type of characters.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He did do an issue in Star Wars Darth Maul,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Black White and Red series, so he's already tackled mall
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: previously and this will be fun for us because, uh,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the art is being done by Madabik Musa Bekoff, who
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: is working on Star Wars Jedi Knights as the artist there,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: which is about the only good thing we had to
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: say about that. Yes, that sounds horrible, guys, but I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: just being honest.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But also, like guys, I will say this, a
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: lot of people people are kind of iffy on Percy's writing.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy his writing, and that's more so because
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I like variety. There's a lot of people that are like, oh,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I like to read my happy go looking superheroes and
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: maybe every once in a while like controversial story. And like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the most recent thing that I've read from Percy is
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Freaking Ghostwriter and dealing with demons and very supernatural stuff
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: and scary and and all sorts of ghosts and ghouls
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and everything. It got really dark, really fast in that book.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And I think he would be perfect for somebody who
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: is enriched in rage, like mom, So I think it'll
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: be fine. Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: The prequel comic will introduce the Brandler Losson character as
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: well as or Brander Lasson as well as the Two Boots.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: When does that start?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: That comes out at the beginning of March first Wednesday
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: in March.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Okay is the fourth So okay, not bad, not bad,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: but yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I think I think that's about it with this. Guys.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Obviously we're not going to analyze the trailer. We're not
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: the type of people to analyze the trailer frame by frame.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: This is super exciting for us. Clay it took a
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: month off of his episode planning duties.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so hyped about that. And that's more so because,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: like I was even telling Abby today, it's like, Hey,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: all of my time that I'm supposed to be planning
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and and I'm not going to air out my grievances here,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: but the gua knows twenty six has not been twenty
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: twenty six is not my year. I'll just say that, guys,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: so far, and it's only exactly so I'll take anything.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'll take anything that that helps me out. So before
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: we move on to our main review of today is
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: in fact the third book in the Baine trilogy, being
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Dynasty of Evil, I did want to go ahead and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: touch on this very small, detailed thing dealing with the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: man Lurian and Grogu. We have now since learned that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: there is There was this rumor that was like, oh,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: if Mandalorian Grogu does horribly wrong, then Feloni will never
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: get his movie, like his his big like Mando Verse movie, right,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And I thought that was, like, hmmm, he's now the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: co president. I don't think he's gonna let it go.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: That the man can do what he wants exactly.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: And so we've gotten confirmation from Daniel Rpka stating that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: it will be reworked as a limited series if big
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: word being if the Mandalorian Grogu flops at the box office.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So we had heard before that, Ohsoka season three is
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: not being greenlit yet, and everything was kind of hanging
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: on Mandalorian Grogu. My question to you is, Katie, because
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: you've kind of I feel like given your answer sort
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of with the comment of oh, we've only seen one trailer,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: how do you feel Mandalorian Grogu will do right now,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: like just like off the cuff? Do you think this
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: will immediately be a hit currently with the transition of
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Kathleen Kennedy being out, like the movie was already made
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: right before Kathleen Kennedy left YEP, it could still the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: her leaving can still affect how the box office acts
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: today because of the quick or lack thereof slow decisions
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: that Feloni and Brennan make during the box office run.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like, so, how do you feel? How do
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: you feel about the movie right now?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I'm gonna go see it, So nothing
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: that happens in the day to day for Lucasil other
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: than if they like just blanketly go, I'm gonna create
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: this whole movie with AI or half the movie with AI.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That's probably the only thing that's gonna get me to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: not go see the movie in theaters. I don't picture
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: it's gonna make a billion. It's not gonna make a billion.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Movies just don't make a billion. Right now. I mean Zootopia, Zootopia,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: which is proving the prowess of animation that people still
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: can't seem to understand whatsoever.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And I think Avatar, Yeah, but Avatar is stupid. Avatar. Well,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I guess Zootopia and Avatar are both films. I I
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: do not think Mandalorian Grogu will be the Star Wars
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: movie to bring in a billion. I'll be honest, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: think it might be Starfighter.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I completely agree. I think Sean Levy has the prowess
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and the characters and the actors to go this movie's
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: gonna bring in a billion. That was my guess.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: That's not a prediction for me. I'm just saying if,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: because the first two movies that are coming into theaters
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: from Star Wars, since we've had a Star Wars movie
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: last these are the debuts to back into cinema, right
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: if either of them had a chance at a billion,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my money on Starfighter rather than Mandalorian Grogu.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Correct not gonna place bets on that. I'm done placing
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: pizza bets. Long story, guys, So yeah, I could easily
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: see maybe six hundred. I don't think it crosses seven fifty.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say seven fifty sounds like the sweet spot.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I here's here's the reality of things, guys. And I
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: know that I'm always the Debbie downer that brings in
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: reality and I apologize for this, but recently, American economy
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: very bad. I'll put it in simple terms, American economy
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: very bad, which means movies may not do very good
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: because people will choose groceries over entertainment, yep. People will
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: choose rent over entertainment, YEP. So I can't say like, oh, yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: like this is gonna hit it big, and I don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: want to, like, I don't want to sound that down
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: in the dumps, because Katie, this is.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Gonna be our first movie together reviewing for the show,
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: and I'm really excited for that, And so I wish
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: all of the best for these movies.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I genuinely do before the time that we are in
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: it could be a little scary, which means yes, unfortunately,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: and I hate to even bring this up, but like
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I would genuinely hope that Eiger and the rest of
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the shareholders and suits understand the current situation to be like, hey,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: let's maybe not ride everything on the American box office
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and see how it does globally.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why Levy's movie will do a
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: little bit better, because we have a chance for things
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: to kind of level out. But also Levy is known
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: for his family friendly, fun movies. That's going to be
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: a movie that people go, I want to take my
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: kids to that movie. Yeah, that might be Mari's first
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Star Wars movie. In theaters.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Like, so, yeah, the point of the matter is I
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: don't see Mando. I see Mando making a little bit
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: of profit.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Is that good enough for the Disney We don't know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I think it may be a little too soon. But
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: have we heard anything about Mando and Grogu's budget?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Cro Gou I hate this freaking screen rant.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Has point four million.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying too.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: That's what I've got off of screen Rant, who is
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: reporting it from Collier.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Let's look at it this way. You break four hundred,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: you're golden.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Technically, Yeah, technically yes, because you look at it. Star
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Wars Lash that I was the most expensive production. Followed
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: shortly behind is Solo and Rise of Skywalker. So this
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: is the best budget a Star Wars film has had
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: since Revenge of the Sith in two thousand and five
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: with one hundred and thirteen million dollars.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like, honestly, I I think that you you
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: aim for a ceiling of four hundred. Everything else is Gucci,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: everything else is bus you know.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you cross, you cross five hundred. We're in the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: golden zone. Like we have hit success theoretically, I.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Don't know, well and like, but honestly, if you look
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: at the like the big hype movies of like let's
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: say even twenty twenty five, get Fantastic four and uh Superman, right, yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: they both. I think Superman did outperform Fantastic four. Fantastic
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: four did like six hundred and something and I think
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Superman did eight hundred six.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Superman did six hundred and sixteen.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Oh did I thought it? I thought it broke seven? Okay, no,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: all right, so six sixteen and then Fantastic four. What
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a Fantastic four do? I thought they did? They wait
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: for me?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: That is not right, dude, at all? Whatsoever? Worldwide? Fantastic
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Four did five hundred and twenty one.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Five twenty one exactly. If you're in that range, both
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of those movies were very successful. If you were in
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: between Fantastic Four and Superman, that is a successful movie. Yeah,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: hands down.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: So that's all you got to do, exactly. Now, who knows.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: With a new CEO coming in for Disney, who knows.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Which actually I think should be announced pretty soon from
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: one of what they were.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Seeing February, so we'll see.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Very very intriguing. But uh, cany. I think that's it
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: for the News.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I think that is as well. So shall we dive
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: into our final book review of the Dark Bande trilogy. Yes, guys,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: for those of you who are new to the podcast,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Clay started on this podcast with the Dark band series
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: and we got so into what we were doing with
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: all of the Higher Republic stuff that was coming out
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: right after we did the Darth Banes. U did we
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: just plumb kind of forgot about Dynasty of People?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Really? The really funny thing about you saying like, oh, yeah,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: with all the High Republic stuff, if you had bought
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the Essential Legends collection, look what was at the back
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: of the book. It was literally the Light of the Jedi. Yeah,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: this was the start. The Essential Legends was literally the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: start of all of that. And I still remember, like
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Katie was like, hey, do you, you know, want to
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: check out these books? You know, have you ever read
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: them before? I had said no. Since then, I've read
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: all three of them, I think like six or seven times.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It's a great story. My brother was a huge Darth
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Baidin fan.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: And actually I think it was the opposite way around
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: is somebody had told me we needed to do Darth Baine,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: and you had read Darth Baine and I had.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Was that the way it was? Yeah? Maybe so, I
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: because I had I had told you like, oh yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: my brother recommended this book to me, and he like,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I love my brother to death, but he just like
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: had a he has a heart on for Darth Baine,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: and like I was like, Okay, I guess I'll read it.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: And it was, like I said, the start of the
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: initiative was with these essential legends, Darth Baine, and I
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: think it was another trilogy that came around with it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just Darth Babe the Empire, the Empire as well,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: that's right. It was Air the Empire and Darth Baine.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: And so when I got a hold of it, yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: oh that's right. Yeah. I think it was live that
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: we were we were talking live and somebody's like, oh,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: you guys should talk about Darth Baane and I was like,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we want to, yeah, we could do that.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: And we did both. We actually did them pretty close together.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: We did the first book and the Path it was
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Path of Destruction and Rules the Rule of Two. Yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: we did those, I think like within a month's time.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then my Republic. Hi.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Republic just like took us into the next five years.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: So we are finally here, guys. We are finally here
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: to talk about the Dynasty of Evil, which I think,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: in my mind this is probably blasphemous now that I've
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: read so many Star Wars books, because I hadn't read
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a whole lot until, of course I started this podcast
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: with Katie. I genuinely think that Dynasty of Evil is
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: quite possibly in for a safe bumper. I'm gonna say,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: top ten perfect endings for a trilogy. Yeah, I'm just
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: gonna say.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: It, because agree.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: This does something that I really enjoy as like a
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: conclusion novel, when whenever you're writing a conclusion to a
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: story to an epic like these like this trilogy, when
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: there are elements that are brought back to kind of
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: remind the reader like, hey, this is where we started.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love when they do that, and
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: they did that with this book, and they brought you
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: all the way back to Path of Destruction when Baine
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't even Baine, when he was still dead, does yep?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: And in the military.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys, before we get too far into it. Drew
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Carption is the author for.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: The yes yet and this.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Released December two thousand and nine. So super powerful book,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: really good ending to a trilogy. Like Clay has already said,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: what did you So at this point, I guess in
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: this book, Xana is maybe forty years old. Bain is
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: like eighties, uh is he? Because this so this book
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: is twenty years It says twenty years the past, So
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: maybe Xanna is like closer to like thirties because I
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: was thinking there was ten years, but this it does
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: say twenty years since Bain has demolished the Order of
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: the Sith, which would put this twenty years after Path
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: of Destruction.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: See, I think I'm pretty sure. Near the beginning of
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the book it says that he's mid forties. He's in
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: his twenties young, he was that young in the beginning
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: of the trilogy. Yeah, because the the what happens in
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the second book with his body basically getting like, oh
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: you're copletely destroyed, basically aged him. Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I think like sixties eight.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Well, in very simple terms, legitimately, think about what happened
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: to Palpatine when he got struck with the Force lightning. Yeah,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: it raged him, and the same thing happened to Bane.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: So when he is on this quest to find basically
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: his youth, which is he learns a UH force technique
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: ritual of immortality by switching one's essence and soul into another.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Which is basically they took that promise and moved it
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: to Cannon basically yes, because.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's uh another reference to another franchise. It's
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: just you know, finding a hull crux. And I I
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: love it more so because of the idea of what
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: happens at the very end of the book with the epilogue.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: But we'll get there.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: What he.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: What's his name? Set? There's nothing else about him like
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: the rest of the time.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's there's nothing. And the thing is because
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of our deepest of all dives into High Republic, my goal,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: because I love this trilogy so much, was to find
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: every story that would complete this timeline, because there is
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: an implication at the very end of this book that
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, the ritual was successful for someone, but
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: we don't know who it is. And they even say like, hey,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I will reveal the ritual technique and who I am
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: when you are ready. That's what it says at the
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: very end of the book. Yeah, So I would like
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: to do some research and find the books that take
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: place immediately or a little bit after this, to really
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: find out and to continue that story, because we know
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: for a fact, unless Disney and Lucasfilm wants to just
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: completely turn everything on its head, we know that Palpatine
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: and Plagis, We're not secretly Darth Baane, right, Like, that's
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: just that is not canon. That's not something that could
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: legitimately be because of you know, I think that would
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: be ridiculous to find out that literally every single dark
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Lord of the Sith was literally just Baane jumping from
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: body to body to body. The guy has to die eventually,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: and there's a possibility that he died at the end
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: of this book, but we don't know, so Carption.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Because I was looking at the Wikipedia for this. Carption
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: does say he personally clarified with a post on his
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: website that said Xanna won the battle. Carption said that
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: he wanted to introduce just a hint of subtlety about
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: how much of Baine survived, and that he left open
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: the possibility of revisiting the situation at some point, saying
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: that what was supposed to be left ambiguous was whether
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: or not Bane was quote still alive in some way
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: or quote just a small part of his identity imprinted
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: on her.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, So to answer your question about books around this guy, so, oh,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: this doesn't actually have the full timeline in it. Okay,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: hang on, I gotta rep a different.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Book, The Essentials doesn't.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: So the.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: So I don't have the Essentials copies, They're boxed up somewhere.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, so I I had Edge of Victory, which was
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: not published at the time of this book coming out. Okay, So,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: so this one it takes place around one thousand and
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: thirty two years before Star Wars a New Hope yep,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: so before this one would be Knight Errant. And then
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: you go backwards in time to thirty six three thousand,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty years before Star Wars a New
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Hope and says the Old Republic deceived, Red Harvest, deceived
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Red Harvest, the Old Republic Fatal Alliance, the Old Republic annihilation.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: And then after Bame, the next book that comes out
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: is Plagies.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah? So there's nothing. Oh that's kind
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: of annoying, unless because I've never I've never read Plagis.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm curious to like, and I'm sure you know
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: the answer to this. There's no mention of anything before
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Plagas in play. Yeah, so I am willing to place
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: a bet on the fact that there's probably like Legends
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: comics that deal with some of the stories between Baine
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: and Plagas.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the essential Legends timeline that one of
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: the uten guys did that breaks all of the individual
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: pieces media out, So I'll have to look in there
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: and tell you, Okay.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Cool, cool, cool. But yeah, I like, I really dug
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: this book. I really dug the ending of this book
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: because of the way, oh my gosh, because of the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: way he ended it. But like, also we get to
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: see a vulnerable yet powerful bane, like a bane that
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: refuses to die, and a very dark bane because of
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: course the situation that happens in book two with him
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: being wounded, you know, about to die, having a healer
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: fix him up, and then like you then have somebody
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: else take the blame for the murder of that individual,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: which completely just thrusts this story into existence with of
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: course what's his name's daughter and all of that jazz. Yeah, So,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: how did you feel about about her story, her revenge story,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: and all of that.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: I definitely enjoyed getting Sarah introduced back in. I feel
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: like it, Like you said, it really does tie everything
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: together in the end, bringing those connections full force and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: the realistically like, I don't know how you could have
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: done this any better than Carption already does, because this
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: is a fairly flawless story, Like I can't think of
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: any flaws after my recent reread off the top of
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: my head. The perspectives all work perfectly, like you get
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: enough of Like, honestly, probably Sarah is the villain in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: the story a court if you put Bayane and Zana
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: as the protagonists even though they're technically sick, and I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: feel like Sarah gets just enough perspectives in place to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: really make that work in those perspective changes. What did
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: you think about, because I mean, it's so it's been
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: twenty years since Baine took Zana on as his apprentice,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: and most of his story in this is realizing Hey,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: like I'm getting old, I have issues. Zana hasn't taken
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: advantage like she should have by now, so I need
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: to go searching for eternal life and find a new apprentice.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: How did you feel about that.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I I dig this because there's even a moment where
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Zanna of course, takes Set under her wing, Set being
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the dark Jedi, and she's kind of teaching him the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: ways of the Seth, but not teaching him because she
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: has been so ingrained in the ways of the rule
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: of two that Bain literally created, well, didn't create, but
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: you know, passed on through his knowledge of revenue and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: everybody else from the Old Republic. She even gets mad
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: at Set because Set is like, oh, so you you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: you want to teach me how to be a Seth
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: and we could all be Set together, and she's like, no, blasphemy, like,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: and she's very quick and like cuts it down, like, no,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna do that. I'm gonna kill him, and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be my princess. Oh so you want me
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: to help you kill him. No, we're not gonna do
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: that because that shows my weakness and I'm not weak.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill him. He's like, okay, well what if
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: you don't kill him and he kills you? And she's like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: well you would either are strong enough to defend yourself,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and he's impressed enough to become you know, your new
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Master or you're dead. I like that she has not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: taken advantage because there's this back and forth throughout the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: entire book of the mind games that each one is playing,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: because I think throughout the entire book, Zanna is the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: first one to contemplate, Oh, is he only doing this
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: to make me attack him earlier than I want to?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Is he trying to get me? Yeah? I love it.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: I love the the the four d Chest that they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: are playing, you know, the the sixth the six Games
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: of Sebah that they are trying to figure out before
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the first hand he has even played. It's so intriguing
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: because even when Darth Baine is almost down and out
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: and super weak, he's like, Okay, I'm finally escaping this compound.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Let me see where my lightsaber is, and he like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: reaches out in the forest. He's like, Okay, there's a guard.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: There's a guard. There's this person. There's this person Zana.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: What in the world is she doing here? And then
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: like he's like, wait, did she help in this capture
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: or not? Like again, it's it's these little nuances of like,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: because of the constant training to eventually kill one another,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: they're always on edge and we know that that is
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: like the inevitable downfall of the Sith itself, but to
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: see it at its peak of anxiety here was very interesting.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It it was super interesting to see them go
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: back and forth on what was going to matter to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: the other at the end and in the grand scheme
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: of things. Xanna really is like the one that Baine
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: was looking for to take over. She took the legacy
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: of the Sith very seriously in developing the Rule of
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: two with Bain and following it to a tea. I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: really enjoyed that with her character and everything. Sorry, I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: got distracted on Wikipedia because I tragged back and Deadu's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Wikipedia article.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: So it says that he is mentioned in Star Wars
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: The Old Republic Onslaught Oha is a video game Dyna
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Steve Evil. He is mentioned in Plagas. I don't remember
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: him being mentioned in Plagas, and then he's.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Mentioned in a Republic comic with Count Dooku and Quinlan Voss,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: and then he is also mentioned in the Legacy comic Run.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Which would make sense that he is mentioned in Plagas
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: because we know that well, this is my assumption. I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: haven't read it yet. Palpatine is introduced in plagas correct. Yes, yeah,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: and we all know Plagis tried to live forever with clones. Yeah,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: like he tried to literally put his essence into clones,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: which is literally the first thought that Baide has.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Yep, He's like, oh, I gotta find a cloner. And
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: then he's like, wait a second, I won't have a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: stable clone, which is what Palpatin runs into.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, I won't have a stable clone, and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: also that might take forever to develop. I don't have
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: that kind of time, so I have to do it
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: in an already able body. So yeah, like I I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I love everything from this book.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: We talked about how sci fi the Edge of Victory
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: one is this one all so Leen's super sci fi
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: with this element, with this essence transfer, So I really
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: dig it.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I even like
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the dark Jedi aspect, the fact that Sarah when conducting
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit of her own investigations and everything, it's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: talking to this master Jedi and like there's a moment
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: where I think it was the Assassin that told Sarah like, oh,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: they're full of themselves. They can't even like help. But
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: like answer every question because they feel like they need
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: to teach everybody. And literally everything that she was saying
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: was coming true when Sarah was conducting her like many investigation.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved cockness in this. I remember falling in
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: love with her character the first time I read it,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: and I fell in love with her again reading through
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: it this time. Cognis is the assassin that works with
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Sarah in the beginning and figures out like, oh, I'm
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: meant to be the darker Prentice moving forward, And I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: just love her character that she brings up such a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: new perspective. It is super helpful because now I've read Plagis,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: I've also read all of the older Public books. I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: d n f Knight Errants because I just could not
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: get through it. I did not enjoy the older Public
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: books as much as I enjoy the Darth Bane trilogy.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Like these books really make that old public.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: I know, I was super are sad about that, but like,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I could not deal with it. It was I DNF it,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: and I swear I'm going to come back to it
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: one day.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I I think I actually have this one.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: It came out as an Essential Legends collection.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the version I have of it.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was like, because that was back when
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: I was trying to do the Patreon series where I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: was reviewing, like going through Legends all in a timeline fashion,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: could not do Knight Errant. It delayed the episode that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: I was doing by like months because I could not
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: finish it for the So yeah, but this one is
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: definitely I think it's probably the Darth Bayne trilogy, and
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: it's probably Revin or like my favorite Old Republic books
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: because Carption just does an incredible job. Like, and I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: know people of jokes like, oh, are we going to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: bring him in to consult on whatever Darth Baine trilogy
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: goes forward and YadA, YadA, YadA, No, but like, seriously,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: he writes Darth Baine so well.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like genuinely, if we had Zoon get to come
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: in for everything having to deal with Thron, I think
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: he should be able to come in if anything with
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Bain is actually entertained in canon. Honestly, I think he
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: does an amazing job.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: He also wrote the Reven book That's why, Oh well.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: There you go, so like I genuinely think that and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: God Filoni, please please, for the love of God, please,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I do think that, as much as I really hate
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: saying this sentence, I think either adapting or bringing in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Bain will satisfy everyone, even those other guys in the fandom.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: You said bringing in Baine, did you mean bringing in Carption?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Carption with Baine, That's that's what That's what you meant.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: I was just clarifying, Yes.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, if if you bring him alongside any decision to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: bring about Baine in canon, I think it would legitimately
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: get a green flag everywhere. Yeah, And like I don't know, like,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: do you now that we have finished the trilogy, do
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: you think this can exist in canon?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've already used concepts. It makes perfect sense to
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: bring this in to canon, and especially in the timeline
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: that it would work.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know they brought about it again, because,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: like I said, the best thing about this is that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: they do touch on literally like key points in both
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: book one and book two. Inside of book three again
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: they brought about or they they mentioned the thought bomb
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: again that started the whole thing, which is almost literally
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: the destruction of the Seth. Like, even doing that, even
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to change it up a bit, I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: think you could still make this cannon because, like you said,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: it is far enough away from everything else, Like I
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: would even say, looking at act Lite, yep, looking at
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I think maybe the one thing that might interfere with
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: things maybe High Republic. Maybe No, I don't think.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: That's only three fifty years off from the Phantom Menace,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: so you still have six hundred years of play there, Yeah,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: to fit this in appropriately. So I really love this
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: trilogy And honestly, I feel like Dynasty of Evil is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: my favorite of the three. I know that's like weird saying,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: but it's just such a good book. And Carption manages
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: the characterization of everybody just perfectly, and that's probably I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: didn't realize this either. He was the lead writer for Kotor.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: That makes a whole lot of sense too.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was a main writer on the older
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Public video game, which is probably why, and Dedu is
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: in that one as well.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, somebody, well the thing is my job
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: finally kind of got their act together, and I need
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: to catch up on hours. So I'm going into work
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: in four hours.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, go to bed, And.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: I still haven't eaten dinner, so I'm probably not going
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: to go to sleep at all.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, make it to work.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: I will make it to work. I will make it
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: to work. But yeah, Like, guys, I I think if
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: you have not had the chance to read this trilogy,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: and you are a Star Wars fan, for one, how
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: dare you get this far into this podcast and not
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: stop and immediately go and get this trilogy. But guys,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: if you are a fan of Star Wars, I one
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: hundred agree with the notion that if you were to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: buy any Legends book, this trilogy should be it. Yeah.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: And I genuinely thought, because again, I love my brother
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: to death, but he can sometimes be a little bit
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: of an idiot. I genuinely thought he was just being
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: a dude.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, you got Darth BAINEA and I'm like, whatever, dude,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: It's it's just a book. This. I like, there's a
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: concept of like just overhype in any fandom. I don't
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: know if this book can be overhyped.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: It's not. You want to know what is overhyped? The
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Plaguish novel.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, Darth.
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  Speaker 3: Baine novels not overhyped.
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  Speaker 2: I think because of how well developed each character gets
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  Speaker 2: through each novel of this trilogy makes this book as
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  Speaker 2: good as it is there is a genuine start to
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  Speaker 2: everyone's story and an end to everybody's story. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: is no Like, yes, technically with the epilogue there's like
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: this small lingering thing with Zanna and Pain. But like,
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  Speaker 2: even so, like even if you were to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm never going to read another Star Wars book after that,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: there is an ending for every single character, and that
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  Speaker 2: is that is a perfect trilogy. I'm sorry, it just
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  Speaker 2: is so. Yeah. Again, like, if anything, I think this
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  Speaker 2: is a trilogy that I would actually try and find
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  Speaker 2: original copies of, like as as a fan, I would
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  Speaker 2: see it through hard. Yeah, I'm sure it is. I'm
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: sure it is.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of someone who had to source original copies of
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: some of the early Disney canon books, it was pain
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  Speaker 3: in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: I think my brother owns at least one of them.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Path the Destruction. It might
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: actually be the rule of two that he has because
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: I see the covers and I recognize him, so it
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: might be one of those two. But yeah, guys, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's any like anything else.
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  Speaker 3: Even mine is the Legends banner one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't think there's really much of anything
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  Speaker 2: else Without going like into the nitty gritty deep dive
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: into it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which this being an old one guys, that's not
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  Speaker 3: typically something that we do.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: But we just don't veer away from spoiling. Yeah, yeah
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: for sure. But yeah, guys, with that, you can find
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: me at fanboy clay on almost anywhere except for Twitter
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: these days, and from the looks of it, it may even
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: be uh TikTok as well. So we'll see how all
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: of that goes around. But like Katie, uh, I will
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: start to be using the Instagram page a little bit more,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: so you'll start to see content from us a little
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: bit more.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: I know we keep saying that, guys, but we had
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: the Great ice Storm.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there's there's we we got a foot of
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: snow this week, so it's it's it's a lot twelve.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: My back porch still has ice on and we're predicted
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: for two inches this weekend. And I live in the South, Okay,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: so don't say anything about my just compared to Clays.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Uh No. It was so funny because my mom sent
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: me a photo of her backyard living in San Antonio, Texas,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: and like you can see, like the puddle that froze
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: over in her back patio and then like some specs
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: of white on the grass. And then I take a
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: picture of just the front of my apartment and it
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: just being piles upon piles of snow, like that was
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: a funny comparison. And then and then she had the
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: audacity of screenshotting how cold it was and it was like,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: it's twenty four She's like, it's twenty four degrees. It's
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: so cold. I screenshot in mind it was three degrees
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: and it felt like negative eleven.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, I told you. I was like, we
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: can play this game all day. Mom, I don't think
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: you're winning. But yeah, guys, you can check us out
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: there on Instagram and a Blue Sky. I need to
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: also remember that we do have a blue Sky, so
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I need to post there. So yeah, Katie, what about you, y'all?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: You can find me on most social media platforms is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: at Slace of Katie. Like Clay said, we are on
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: Blue Sky, Instagram, and thruds that use your name for reference,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: guys is Star Wars Alliance with no aid in the words,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: it's very important, don't forget it. You can also use
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: that username and put it in front of at gmail
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: dot com and shoots an email if you are not
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: a social media person, but we would love to hear
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: from you, guys. Shoots the question. Remember we are still
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: doing the giveaway for a copy of Star Wars Outlaws
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: The Low Red Moon. You just have to shoot us
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: in message on Instagram and or Blue Scott. Does Blue
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Scott do messages?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: Clay has the controls to that account.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: I do not.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, they do.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you shoot us a message on either platform
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: and you just have to be following us at the time.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: We'll do that drawing next week. So yeah, with that, guys,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: we want to wish everyone a great day or night
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: whatever come a day you are listening or watching, and
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: we will see y'all next time. There's a coast in
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  Speaker 3: my house. May the Force be with you.