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- 0:57Speaker 1: pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio. Fashion fashion for women and
- 1:03Speaker 1: teenagers sized at twelve to twenty six. That's the focus
- 1:07Speaker 1: of Fashion to Figure. It focuses exclusively on women's plus
- 1:11Speaker 1: size clothing and related accessories, and here to tell us
- 1:15Speaker 1: more is the co founder and chief executive Michael Kathleen. Michael,
- 1:18Speaker 1: thanks for coming in, Thanks for having me here. Tell
- 1:21Speaker 1: us a little bit about your background and how you
- 1:24Speaker 1: came to create Fashion to Figure. Well, it's it's a
- 1:27Speaker 1: bit of a mixed combination of um wanting to continue
- 1:32Speaker 1: a great legacy that my family started in intern of
- 1:34Speaker 1: the last century when my great grandmother, owned by the
- 1:37Speaker 1: name of Lane Bryant, created special sized clothing and really
- 1:41Speaker 1: pioneered the category bringing fashion to the figure. Are our
- 1:45Speaker 1: company name really draws its history from a famous quote
- 1:49Speaker 1: of hers which was never asked a woman to conform
- 1:52Speaker 1: their figure to fashion. Always bring fashion to the figure.
- 1:54Speaker 1: And when I was at in graduate school, I saw
- 1:57Speaker 1: a great opportunity to kind of modernize the retail experience
- 2:01Speaker 1: or the shopping experience for this consumer, and so my
- 2:04Speaker 1: brother and I literally started the proverbial single store that
- 2:07Speaker 1: we ran ourselves every day for a year and a
- 2:09Speaker 1: half and a decade later, we now sell our our
- 2:12Speaker 1: very contemporary fashion product and five channels, um our own stores,
- 2:16Speaker 1: digital marketplaces online at Fashion to Figure dot Com, through
- 2:20Speaker 1: wholesale partners, and through new disruptive um subscription box companies,
- 2:24Speaker 1: and really what we do is provide up to the minute,
- 2:27Speaker 1: very fast fashion trends across a very contemporary on trend
- 2:32Speaker 1: lifestyle that people can really forget about being special size
- 2:36Speaker 1: or size related. They're really getting access to the latest
- 2:39Speaker 1: fashion that that really anybody would deem as contemporary. Now
- 2:43Speaker 1: your background, you worked at Lazard, Your brother Nicholas was
- 2:45Speaker 1: previously at Sacks. What was it like going from the
- 2:48Speaker 1: banking industry into the retail business that already Well, it's
- 2:52Speaker 1: very it's very different. I mean, I think working on
- 2:54Speaker 1: wall streets very different than main street. And I think
- 2:57Speaker 1: in our case, um my brother and I brought a
- 3:00Speaker 1: great combination of skills, his with the retail background in
- 3:04Speaker 1: mind with more of a finance background. I don't think
- 3:06Speaker 1: that either of us would be here without the combination
- 3:09Speaker 1: of those skills coming together. But for me, it certainly
- 3:11Speaker 1: was an adjustment. But it's much more rewarding work now
- 3:15Speaker 1: with all the people that work inside of our business
- 3:17Speaker 1: being really both our customers and our employees who we
- 3:21Speaker 1: call ft F family members, seeing how real hard working
- 3:24Speaker 1: people are out there in shopping malls across America and
- 3:27Speaker 1: shopping and consuming American products and you know, really creating
- 3:30Speaker 1: the economy. It's very different to be out there among
- 3:33Speaker 1: the people and serving them than it is behind a
- 3:36Speaker 1: desk in Rockefeller Center and analyzing reports. Now you mentioned customers,
- 3:41Speaker 1: you mentioned your employees. Tell us about your vendors, because
- 3:44Speaker 1: that makes you a slightly different retail company in that
- 3:47Speaker 1: you don't create the products yourself. You work with I
- 3:52Speaker 1: guess over a hundred vendors to bring those products to market.
- 3:56Speaker 1: We actually do create the product ourselves. Basically, we Um.
- 4:00Speaker 1: We bring hundreds of styles across basic dressing and casual categories,
- 4:05Speaker 1: so that our customers literally every time they come to
- 4:07Speaker 1: our website or every time they come to our store
- 4:10Speaker 1: can see a new dress, a new top. They can
- 4:13Speaker 1: always get a basic item of any need or or
- 4:16Speaker 1: in any for any area of their life in a
- 4:18Speaker 1: different color, in an updated, you know, style or contemporary trend.
- 4:22Speaker 1: We create all that stuff with our own designers, and
- 4:25Speaker 1: we have terrific um manufacturing partners all across the world.
- 4:29Speaker 1: They can manufacture things anywhere from four tough you know,
- 4:33Speaker 1: sixteen weeks for us and get a very fast flow
- 4:36Speaker 1: of product to the floor, so that our customers always
- 4:38Speaker 1: see that newness, that freshness of fashion. At fashion and
- 4:42Speaker 1: Figure dot com, for example, you'll see new things there
- 4:45Speaker 1: every single day and you'll rarely see an item more
- 4:48Speaker 1: than you know, sixty five dollars. Where you mentioned the
- 4:51Speaker 1: price point and I just want to offer detail right
- 4:53Speaker 1: dresses around fifty dollars, tops around thirty five dollars, in
- 4:57Speaker 1: jeans retailing for about forty dollars that we we think
- 5:00Speaker 1: that what our innovation in the market has been has
- 5:03Speaker 1: been to offer very up to the minute trends at
- 5:06Speaker 1: a quality and price point that is has a combination
- 5:10Speaker 1: of that fashion, quality, price point, speed of flow that
- 5:14Speaker 1: is not matched anywhere in the large size market. We
- 5:17Speaker 1: think that we're the fastest moving assortment of on trend
- 5:20Speaker 1: fashion at a quality and price point that our customers
- 5:23Speaker 1: can have so they can always feel great with us,
- 5:25Speaker 1: looking great and really with up to the minute items
- 5:28Speaker 1: across any of these channel and touch points that they
- 5:30Speaker 1: have with us. Now, while we started as a store business,
- 5:33Speaker 1: you know, we're we're very much into the every aspect
- 5:36Speaker 1: of the new economy now, whether it be a box
- 5:38Speaker 1: subscription partner that we have, whether it be our own store,
- 5:41Speaker 1: whether it be you know, digital market places or third
- 5:43Speaker 1: party brand of vendors or any of that. What's your
- 5:46Speaker 1: estimate for how big the marketplace is for plus size fashion. Well,
- 5:51Speaker 1: it's a very fast and dynamic run market today, UM
- 5:54Speaker 1: and I think this is one of the opportunities which
- 5:56Speaker 1: is why a lot of people are jumping on the
- 5:58Speaker 1: bandwagon or you know, dusting off the kind of UM
- 6:02Speaker 1: brand story of businesses and vertically expanding into the spaces.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Because it's about an eighteen billion dollar market for apparel
- 6:08Speaker 1: in today's in the US economy. Today, it's about seventy
- 6:11Speaker 1: million women in the United States economy, depending upon how
- 6:14Speaker 1: you slice the numbers that are wearing above sized fourteen,
- 6:17Speaker 1: so it's really one in three women in America. So
- 6:19Speaker 1: really to call it a specialty market is a bit
- 6:21Speaker 1: of a misnomer. Having said that, there's a real paucity
- 6:25Speaker 1: of suppliers and retailers serving that market, and that's why
- 6:29Speaker 1: many people are entering in the market today, whether it
- 6:31Speaker 1: be teen retailers, whether it be department stores, whether it
- 6:34Speaker 1: be online startup companies or others. So a lot of
- 6:37Speaker 1: people going into this market and you know, I know
- 6:39Speaker 1: it's a little counterintuitive for us to say, but we're
- 6:41Speaker 1: happy that our customers have more choices. Um, you know,
- 6:44Speaker 1: we're really a terrific fashion option for them at a
- 6:47Speaker 1: compelling price and value. Now, Michael, just last point where
- 6:49Speaker 1: I know you're raised about four hundred thousand dollars from
- 6:52Speaker 1: Angel investors. I believe to your first store when we started, right,
- 6:56Speaker 1: We've raised significant amounts of money after that, and we're
- 6:59Speaker 1: you know, we operate in eight states today with our
- 7:01Speaker 1: own stores, a global website, third party marketplaces, subscription box partners,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and traditional wholesale partners. So we've come a long way
- 7:09Speaker 1: since that first story that we borrowed one or dollars for.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you and thanks very much for
- 7:14Speaker 1: coming in and telling your story. Appreciate being here. Look
- 7:16Speaker 1: forward to seeing you soon. All right. Michael Kaplan is
- 7:19Speaker 1: the chief executive and the co founder of Fashion to Figure.
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