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Why Being Honest Makes People Uncomfortable - EP018 · Freedom Flip

• 0:00
  They deserve to die. Other people as humans, the organization deserves to die. The same way that all these woke, canceled culture organizations deserve to die because they are anti-capitalist. You are offending me, you are hurting me, you are making the community worse because your way of talking or presenting yourself or whatever. The other people are like, you are making the community better because of the way that you present yourself and that you communicate. I went from like, oh, let's avoid this being a big thing to like, oh,
• 0:27
  You know what? If they want to fall into this bear trap, they chose to lose their leg. What is everyone's biggest fear in life? Not being part of the tribe. It's hardwired in our brain. To comply, to obey, to follow the rules, the authority, and to stay in line with the majority of people. Don't stick out, don't stand out. Just be quiet, be calm. To me, freedom and fair are opposites. The more free, the less fair. The more fair, the less free. The more free, the less force required.
• 0:57
  You get interested in finding truth. I get interested in finding truth. If the person is not interested in finding truth and is interested in raising money or fluffing up or pretending that he just want to talk and brainstorm and just vomit, I don't want that. You've ruined a lot of my friendships because when I realized people aren't truth seekers, it's very hard to retain the depth of friendship.
• 1:17
  I am seeking for truth. The other person has no interest. I don't know what they are seeking, but they are not seeking truth. Unless we are both seeking truth, it's a waste of our time that we even talk about this topic. The whole pyramid was built on make money and all problems will be solved. I hit the top of that pyramid. I got to it. I was like, looking around, I got lied to. It's a false reality. There you go. There you go!
• 1:47
  No, dude, it's you sharing good thoughts. Seriously. And I sent the text. I don't know if you saw it. I said Pablo gets the same feedback all the time. Yeah, but I didn't understand what it meant. I'm joking. You don't get that feedback because you're honest. Like you're honest and you're always trying to help people. So you're the opposite. And I am too. I get the feedback all the time. It's like, can it just be enough? Like, do you have to change everything? Yeah.
• 2:10
  Does it ever stop? No. But I'm saying it because – Yes, when I die and I go and I turn the page, that's when it stops, this one. That's when it stops. Until then, no. Well, I told you, man. When I started to hang out with you, I was like, God, this is why people hate me.
• 2:27
  This is why, because I've met the first person that's like hits me at the same level, that I hit everyone. And it truly, it's been a gift, man, because at least I can empathize with people where I'm like, I'm just very honest now. I'm like, hey, I just have a lot of ideas. I'm gonna share them. If you don't want to, I can just leave. Or like, we don't need to talk. If that's overwhelming for you, cool. You're a great person. That's cool, but it just, if there's an awareness you brought to my life,
• 2:53
  that I didn't have of myself. And it's kind of, there's a phrase, you can't learn swimming in the library. It's like, this is something I couldn't learn the swimming in the library. The swimming was like how to be around someone. And the truth is, right, you're batting at like, I don't know, at least 98 out of a hundred things that you've recommended to me were like, just absolutely fire. How many did I want to do or want to listen to if it's something I'm doing? I don't know, 30? Like our bodies and our minds don't tell us to accept it right away.
• 3:20
  It's just when you find someone that's accurate, you know, or a system or whatever, it's like you got to power through that discomfort because it's like you go through the discomfort here and then you shoot up to feel better versus what does all of life do? And I've said this, right? It feels super comfortable, social media, the news, the boring people that you don't even like. But after you're done, you'd feel worse. And that's because you shouldn't be doing it. Yeah. Like that's the sign. I love that.
• 3:45
  So yeah, this has been incredible three weeks and man, I got so much feedback. This is the part that I realized yesterday. I received feedback in these events from tons of people that I love. When you started the circle in the event that we were and we were one by one, incredible feedback. Then speaking with Anastasia, she gave me also a lot of feedback. Then I just left my old group.
• 4:14
  And it was great because the chairs did something very cool. He's like, hey, everyone brings something. Pablo, you bring everyone that brings something that you will always remember or that you learn from each person in the group. And then each person in the group will do the same for you.
• 4:30
  And it was incredible. Anastasia just kept giving me feedback and she got some realizations about my founder edge, my unique ability, which was spectacular. And at the same time, I received feedback from our little friend.
• 4:48
  which was the opposite. So everyone that I love, and it's not that it's like, oh, they're just sucking my dick. No, no, they're giving me feedback based on what they see. And it matches across these different people. They've got no incentive or reason to not give a direct. One is saying, what we really like about you is that you call it as you see it, that you are very straightforward, very direct, and that you really push people, you help people, push people in a good way to talk, to say what they think.
• 5:16
  to speak their mind. And then on the other side, it's like, you know, sometimes you need to shh a little bit, you know? And I'm like, this is awesome, dude. Yeah. Well, the timing. Everything at the same time. Unbelievable. It's like, thank you, God. And now I am waiting for the result. And I am like, the cards are already played. Now it's just a matter of like picking it up and see what I got.
• 5:41
  but everything is just played. It's just played. We will see what happens, but I'm like, this is going to be very entertaining. We should do fake sponsors.
• 5:50
  Like the products we like the least, talk about a flip. Be like, I'm going to thank Coca-Cola for poisoning me and millions of Americans. I love you. Like nothing tastes better going down the throat than a bottle. Wouldn't that open liability? No, they're truths. Freedom of speech, brother. First country in the world, tells the king. I mean, just think about that. This country is built on 1776, the strongest man in the world saying,
• 6:18
  You, we're gonna say whatever we want. And then these guys sit around and be like, we can't say everything, can we? Everything? Yeah, let's write in the law, everything. Yeah, so just any legal letters to Peter, okay? Thank you. That's you're not a citizen yet. Like, there's guys like,
• 6:35
  I gotta walk around careful. Well, it's not exactly that regarding him. It's more about, I don't know, the legal system in the USA. I just want to talk for two minutes on this. And so being part of a group, an organization or together, it's so fascinating to me, Pablo, about why you might get opposite feedback.
• 6:55
  from two different sides. And I think about it really as like, wait a minute, who's pushing that? And I try and think of it. I put myself in the shoes of if I'm an employee of a group or organizing a get-together, right? I'm getting a bunch of information from all kinds of people. I give them a little bit of pass of like, they don't really know what's good and bad information, right? They're having to validate on their own without much context and the depth.
• 7:23
  But, right, who's most incentivized to give the information? Oftentimes, it's not someone that has the purest or the, you know, the true, hey, I want to make this group the best possible. It's actually someone who's like, I don't like what's being said by someone, right? This is cancel culture, basically, at the maximum. Now we are kind of like forgetting about it, but this is cancel culture.
• 7:48
  Totally. And so, and this person, rather than directly communicating with, you know, a Pablo and saying, Hey, I have feedback. I have a theory and I'll just, I think it's.
• 7:58
  I think he called, and I have no data to support this. And he said, Pablo is telling everybody, Decent on the call offered to me his whole financial situation. He said, quote, everyone knows what happened to me, which is another red flag that he thinks everyone knows or cares. There is three things that they blame me for. And they are not specifically connected in a way that can only be this guy.
• 8:21
  It's not only this guy, this guy may have called, but what I just find fascinating is just staying super high level is that in such a short period of time, in the last 20 days, I received feedback from all these different people, non-related to each other. And the suits come with the opposite feedback.
• 8:43
  of all the people that I connect deeply with that know me really. And sorry, let me just put it this way. It's the same feedback, but one is saying, this is great. The other one says, this is bad. And I'm like, this is, wow, this is amazing. What if they're both telling the truth? That's the coolest thing. What if it's their, what if it's their, yeah, it's their perception of... You are offending me. You are hurting me. You are...
• 9:09
  making the community worse because your way of talking or presenting yourself or whatever. And the other people are like, you are making the community better because of the way that you present yourself and that you communicate and that you, et cetera, et cetera. The same thing, the same way that all these woke, cancel culture organizations that serve to die because they are anti-capitalistic.
• 9:33
  They are pro-communism. This is not about merit. Because I think this is important for people to think about in their own companies, in their own organizations, in their own groups of like, you have to make a stand. And now you flipped me. I went from like, oh, let's avoid this being a big thing to like, you know what? If they want to fall into this bear trap, they chose to lose their leg.
• 9:52
  The way that I see it is communism always dies. It's just a matter of time. Communism is just, it's anti-natural, period. If we had communism 5,000 years ago, 20,000 years ago, we wouldn't exist today. If communism was like, that's it, everyone has to follow it, that's it, we would be all f***ing dead, right? Because we would have like, I don't know, little b**** fighting with a bear and getting destroyed and that's it.
• 10:18
  You're right. Do you know how I can support your statement with a fact? Your forefather, brother out of Italy, Vilfredo Pareto, 1880s, right? He proved that 80% of the peas produced are from 20% of the pea pots. He showed in Italy, 80% of the farmed were owned by the 20% of highest producing families of creating the most goods. Bingo. So this is not just my opinion versus another person's opinion.
• 10:47
  This is the law of the nature. If you disagree, just explain why in the comments, because I want... Please tell me. Tell me why. Forget about ideologies and so on. Capitalism is this concept of 80-20, which is a natural concept.
• 11:05
  And then communism is no, no, no, no, no. Everyone is equal. Everyone is equal. Oh, you like to share your ideas a little bit more with more passion in a different way? No, no, no, no, no, no. You come down here. Oh, you want to be a little bit more successful? No, no, no, no, no, no. You come down a little bit down here. That is that is communism in simple terms. So Chinese bots just respond below like, why? How? What? Where am I wrong here?
• 11:32
  For the Chinese bots that are humans living and watching this, put your answer into Grok or a non-communist AI before you post it and just see what it says. No, no, just post it first and then reply to your answer. Just don't edit it. Don't be an asshole. Come on. We are stamping this for eternity. Do the same. Come on. Don't be a dick. You are, you know, like keyword warrior. You are behind that, like, name. So you can afford it. It's fine.
• 12:01
  Yeah. Nobody will go after you, which is fine. I mean, it's not that they are hiding. They just have a username. That's totally fine. So coming back to your idea of, what if I do this to show them, hey, do you want to
• 12:17
  it up and what i think is i think that why don't we allow them to do they to do how do you say allow them to do themselves well it's just their own actions right their own actions led to a lot of groups to be started because they were not satisfying the need that we were like asking give me give me this give us this oh no no no because xyz so it would be i think it was gonna be very interesting and i i prefer to just let nature play out wow
• 12:46
  And then see what happens. Pablo, that is incredible. They may kick me out and nobody would care. And it's just me and you holding hands and running off the hill and crying together. Might be the case, right? And that's nature, right? And that's the case. Who knows? I would bet a Bitcoin that does not happen.
• 13:06
  I'm serious. Which part? Holding hands? Crying? No, that'll happen regardless. It's the part that no one's following us or no one's also holding hands with us. But it's beautiful, man, for you to think about it. What is everyone's biggest fear in life? Not being part of the tribe. It's hardwired in our brain. You've got to be part of the tribe because otherwise you die.
• 13:25
  Because we were inter... We still are interdependent, right? But we're now interdependent where those who can find the right tribe or separate themselves thrive. And those who stay with the tribe, you know, just survive. I love that. And I would say I have the same fear. Don't get me wrong.
• 13:40
  Let me just finish the point on. Sorry, sorry. You are overcoming that fear. You have flipped it. You have flipped it to say, if I need to die within this organization, right, or I'm having this death, I'm at peace, right? And it may ultimately mean I become more alive or a new group does and the organization itself dies, right? There's a flip. By you leaving, the natural course will occur. That is powerful.
• 14:05
  I think that you give me too much credit, maybe, but thank you. I don't. I'm just reiterating what you said. Dude, I went through this. I already had the same experience. And I went through, I'm in the principal's office. I feel like I'm in third grade again. Like, you know, just kind of. And you are just trying to make things better for everyone. This is the crazy. It's not that you are promoting your real estate deal like many people do and nothing happens to them besides like, hey, just tone it down a little bit, you know?
• 14:34
  We'd love a good real estate deal. We'd love a good real estate deal. Yours is, so it looks like you were sued for fraud last year. So let's just keep the next one a little more quiet and just try and give some money back to the investors this time. Don't take it all for your house and your boat.
• 14:52
  And I love that it's non-solicitation, you know? But I don't know if this happens in your environment, but many times I attend to a group meeting and then the person leading the group, they start the meeting with a couple of solicitations from sponsors. Yeah. What is that? Ain't that solicitation? Yeah, that's funny.
• 15:13
  If I say, hey, by the way, we have this, whatever, offer $2,000 off of whatever the company, and this is in a meeting, isn't that solicitation? Wow. That sponsor is paying who to be placed there. And think about the organization. Yeah. So, yeah, anyhow. All I'm saying is, man, bring it on. Let's see what happens. Let's see what happens.
• 15:36
  Let's move on only because you blew my brain in a way that already just truly surprises and impresses me. And part of me says like, I don't want to let them take more time from your life or mine than... What happened right now with these guys made me realize that I do not want to be part of this with these guys anymore. Wow.
• 15:56
  It's time to create in the organization that we always wanted. Wow. Which we have spoken in the past and we have some ideas. What's up for the community? This other thing for this thing. This other thing for this thing. And I'm like, yeah, dude, 100%. Why are we even wasting our energy with these guys? I mean, dude, go back in history and think about, are you giving me goosebumps when you're talking? Are you familiar with Socrates and what happened? Yeah.
• 16:22
  I don't know what happened. Socrates is the American football player, right? He was a great real estate investor. Really good.
• 16:31
  I'll tell you, he took a lot of nine caps, turned them into four caps. Just left and right. How many doors he had? He had the golden touch. Socrates is by many considered the greatest, the wisest man to have ever lived. He lived 500 years before AD. I have to double check my years, but I think he was killed in 499 BC. So he only asked questions because his goal was to seek out truth and the wisest man and the widest thoughts. So he would ask questions.
• 17:01
  And he started having young men in Greece follow him because they were learning so much. And there were these, I think the term was sophists, which is funny, it sounds like soft, right? What is sophists? They were the enemy. They didn't want him to be doing this because he was exposing their weak thoughts and their corrupt ways and their correct assumptions or thought processes. And he was basically awakening these young men. They were following him more and more, larger and larger masses.
• 17:28
  And this, ultimately, he was put into court on sham charges, they said, by basically inciting chaos in the community, you know, because he's taking the wise men, challenging them with thoughts and questions. Hate speech. Only questions. That's the fascinating thing, right? He hit so deep and so hard on the sophists.
• 17:49
  which are basically people, I describe it today, it's the way I'm thinking about it, as just the people saying stuff that everyone wants to hear. Virtue signaling. What's that? Virtue signaling, right? It's very interesting how this is just part of humanity. This is not that is happening right now. It's not a new thing. It just has a different color. We haven't seen it before. Now it's happening. In fact, this has been happening in a lot of different countries, maybe not in the US with the intensity, but it's just a human thing.
• 18:15
  You asked, when you put a strict law, like I was asking our amazing babysitter, I flipped it and I played the other side. I said, do you know the constitution, right? I have a friend who purchased me the constitution. I go, let's talk about the amendments. I asked her a question. She goes, I plead the fifth, right? Which means, you know, I can't be required to speak against me in court and blah, blah, blah. And I go.
• 18:34
  Oh, okay. Do you know the other ones? And we started going through each one, right? First one, second one, we're going through all of them. And I go, oh, right to, you know, free speech, public assembly. I'm going through, how can you have hate speech though? She goes, yeah, you know, hate speech. That's not good. I go, okay.
• 18:49
  We can't have that, right? What if it hurts my feelings? What if what you say hurts my feelings? She goes, well, that wouldn't be good. I go, okay, what's more important? And you could see her brain working through it. And then she goes, your feelings aren't the most important thing. It's, we need to be able to say what's true or what we think. And even if that hurts your feelings,
• 19:06
  And this is a, you know, 18 year old female. And it was so cool, you know, me flipping to try and challenge it to see her come to the conclusion of a law of the land that creates a way that regardless of whatever the new term is for like hate speech or sophist, or you need to say what we want you to, you can't, it can't really exist as long as the first amendment stands. That is powerful. So tying that back to Greek, ancient Greek. So these people get together and they're like, we got to stop this dude, Socrates. He's got to stop.
• 19:36
  So they put him in court. There's like days, weeks of court trials of people kind of coming up against him and, you know, people coming up for him. And the only thing I remember, and it's funny, I have Plato's complete works right here. It's like, so Socrates never wrote anything down, never wrote a single thing, didn't care. But Plato, Plato documented all of his stories and all of his speaking.
• 19:57
  And built on it. Plato and all these guys are like, Socrates, you have to not die. They want to kill you. These are charges for death. He basically says, let it be. And during his speech in self-defense, he goes, I could stand up here and talk about my young kids and my wife. That if I'm murdered, I lose. But that's not my job. I'm not going to push this strategy. I'm just going to say, I'm seeking out truth. I'm asking questions. I'm not aware what I did wrong.
• 20:22
  Then he's convicted of murder. And he has like a month. And in those times, you could basically just leave the country and you're good. Like you just never come back. And then he didn't leave the country. All of his friends, all of his boys are going, come on, man. Like, you know, let's just, let's solve this, right? And he goes, this voice I have, right? God, whatever universe, something that he would hear. He goes, the voice that's been telling me the right direction through my whole life is telling me I have to stay.
• 20:47
  And he got this ping, this alert, whatever you want to call it, that said, you need to stay in Greece. And he was murdered. And I think that's the fascinating thing, right? To look through time of those people shift the world in a way we cannot comprehend. And I'm this random guy in this country called America that's protecting free speech as the first country ever in the history of the world. A million years of people being around. In part because of the truth that he pushed and the life that he gave, you know, over
• 21:16
  7,000 years ago, you know, 6,000 years ago. Mind blowing. I love the story. That is amazing. And it's crazy. Totally. And regardless of the outcome of my trial, that's it. This is the new community is happening. I don't know when.
• 21:34
  I think that it's going to depend on how the resolution goes, what the judge says based on that. I think that the timeline can be accelerated by a lot, may not, but to me, this is just the cards are already played. It's happening.
• 21:50
  We've been working on this for years now without realizing that we were doing it. But think about this, like how many people asked you, hey, Peter, can you give a talk about XYZ topic? Like nobody, right? You had to go begging.
• 22:05
  Can I donate my time to your organization so you can give more value to the members? Or me with my other friend, like, hey, can I please give a talk about this thing, this topic that we really like? So can we please, a friend or blonde friend, can we please give, can I give a talk about this other topic that I love so I can bring for free value to the community?
• 22:26
  Yeah, I don't know. Let me see if we have a slot here between the wealth manager that is giving us a kickback. And we will do our best, okay? Can you get it done in 15 minutes? Because you know this. I loved our friend.
• 22:41
  say what he said this guy he just needs profit he needs expansion he needs revenue and all these things are going to dilute the network we need none of this zero of this we it's fascinating right he cares about the opposite metrics that we care we care about making the network incredible that's the least of his concern is still a concern because if the network becomes too
• 23:05
  Then, of course, revenue profit stops growing. But man, if I can get 2,000 more members, even if they are real estate people, who cares? I just need to show a path of growth so I can sell it to the next PE and boom, there I go. So again, we have no competition. One more time. It's amazing to create something with no competition. It connects a lot with what Anastasia and our friends shared with us in this event that we attended, which is just, you should not compete with anyone. Ever. There's no reason.
• 23:34
  I think that's the most beautiful thing to realize about our own lives. When we take the path to go to trial and we're kicked out of, you know, the country or life in the case of Socrates or others that have been murdered, you know, along the way, they open doors that are just mind blowing, right? Because so many people wake up.
• 23:52
  And that's when things get exciting. And we as an individual need to realize we are uniquely brilliant in some way, right? And it's going away from what my parents told me to do and society and someone else, blah, blah, blah, and finding that thing that lights us up, that we're unlocking for everyone. I think every human has that potential. I just think almost none of us want to scratch it because it's so uncomfortable at the beginning before it just... So say more about that. Why it's so uncomfortable at the beginning and why we don't want to scratch it?
• 24:21
  I'm obsessed with this kind of dirty data, right? So I just, I spoke to college students, two classes at my old college I go every year. And I heard this really interesting thing. I think it was Gary Vanderchuk, you know, had like season Ds all the way through school. And he just goes, yeah, grades are dirty data. And I think we shared this clip, but it was a mind blowing for me because it's like, oh, wow.
• 24:44
  That's not data. That shows my willingness to comply, right? Hey, read this textbook, whether or not you think it helps you think more clearly or help you along your amazing journey and regurgitate it in this test. And you gotta do it in a week and it needs to be as close to exactly what I'm telling you to say or you're kicked out, you got a D, right? Okay, so it's actually data just showing the level of compliance and rote memorization, which I'm bad at both of those.
• 25:13
  Which is kind of the opposite for most things that you need in real life. In real life, it's the flip. You nailed it. It's willingness to see, oh, everyone, I'm thinking McDonald's, everyone serves burgers handmade in this way. Oh, McDonald's, what if we set up this kind of Henry Ford style assembly line in the restaurant? Ray Kroc sees it. He knows the industry. He goes, I need to go hard on this. Boom. Boom.
• 25:37
  Right. But that methodology of teaching in schools serves the people that owns the McDonald's. Totally. And this comes back to Germany and the 1950s and building factories. And I try to be less judgmental now. I think it served our world in the way. 1950s? Sorry, 1850s. Ah, okay. 1850s Germany, rise of factories. They're the dominant, you know, factory nation until U.S. really came online. Saying that, I don't know if it was called Germany.
• 26:04
  It was. Industrialization of schools started in Germany. Let's see. Let's see who's right, who's wrong, and you can bash us in the comments. If you read a book, if you read the book, Weapons of Mass Instruction, he kind of walks through. John's ghetto, Gatto, walks through this, explains he was the four-time teacher of the year in New York. Okay, you're right. It was created in the beginning of 1800s.
• 26:25
  In 1850s, it was thriving because of the factories. It was exported to the United States early 1900s. Do you see how good I learned things in school? How much I remember? I didn't learn any of this in school. I mean, almost all of my learning was outside of school.
• 26:42
  Outside of like learning to read and basic math and early years of school. I can't recall. Did you learn how to chase chicks in a school? I don't know. I didn't learn how to. I had an opportunity to. You know, I was put in a group. All right. It was a joke. You are so boring. The point I was trying to...
• 27:01
  The point I was making, we were going through industrialization of school system. Oh, so I'm at this class. I'm teaching these students. And it was funny. I brought the intern for the nonprofit along. And at the end, he comes to me. We're writing back. And he goes, man, I realized how much I learned in this internship. And I go, what do you mean? He goes, I would see people raise their hand for the right answer, but there were only three of them. And then they just put their hands down.
• 27:28
  Because they'd look around, see that there wasn't a bunch of hands, and they'd go down. It showed me what I've learned. Because basically my speech was almost all questions. I just go through these topics and I'm asking. And when kids...
• 27:44
  It's yes or no. People that say no, I'm like, tell me why, why, why, why? And I had them speak. And most of the time, the kids get to basically the right answers, five whys deep. Or they realize, and usually they may realize their flawed logic. And then at that fifth question, they're like, hmm.
• 27:59
  you know, but he was seeing, right, that most of these kids are just trained to that. And, and it was neat for him to have that light bulb go off. And to me, it all comes back to this industrialization of school, which I'm not judgmental. I'm not judgmental of like, Yes, you are. Whether or not it's good. Sorry, I'm trying to not be judgmental. That's a good correction. Wait a second. Let me ask you a question. When you are judging something, judging something or someone is a bad thing per se?
• 28:24
  My answer would be all behavior makes sense with enough information. So I'm trying to get enough information to understand their behavior. Now... And emit a judgment. Of whether or not it's... Arrive to a conclusion. Unless there is a difference in the terminology, but the challenge is when we'd say like, I don't want to be judgmental or I am not judgmental. To me, that would be maybe what we want in fact, what we want to say is like, I don't want to arrive to a conclusion too early or without information.
• 28:54
  That's what I'm trying to say. What I am sensing is this direction rather than I am not judgmental or... Because I think that we want to get to a judgment. We want to omit our judgment, our opinion on things based on our understanding rather than, oh, you're judging me. It's like...
• 29:12
  Yeah, but not in a bad way. It's just my opinion about something that I am seeing. If I give you feedback and you're like, Pablo, you're so judgmental. Like, what are you talking about? I'm just giving you an opinion about something. It's my opinion. Yeah, there's kind of two topics that's interesting. When I was saying it, I meant we were talking about a topic.
• 29:28
  I thought these people were just wrong or lying or had, you know, some negative intent. You shed light or us talking about it shed light to me that was like, oh, wow. They're probably saying what they really believe is true. And had I judged them to say you're a liar or you're wrong.
• 29:45
  That's me jumping to a judgment too early. Now I do want to find the truth, right? And I can realize, you know, I love the quote, right? Holding two concepts in your brain that conflict and not going crazy. Like I can then realize, wow, they're still living in a place where they're saying what they believe is true.
• 30:03
  It's just a completely flipped way of operating in the world that I think will lead to their own failure or a worse outcome. And I do not want to result there. Now that is truth, right? That is my final judgment, right? Which I guess you're right. I am judging in that case at the very end. What I think I do and human nature is we jump to judgment without a good, thoughtful, understanding, querying, asking questions to understand more information.
• 30:29
  We misjudge. We misjudge. Yes. I don't want to misjudge, which is actually finding false information. That's a good clarification. This phrase all the time. And I'm thinking like, I don't think this phrase makes sense because we want to judge. Because let me, again, the etymology of the word judge, judgment, or judging someone or something. But if I am giving my opinion about something that I am seeing...
• 30:53
  That means I am judging the situation. I am judging a person. I don't think that that is a problem. What would be a problem for me would be to misjudge someone and believing that that's an accurate judgment. That is the challenge. Because even misjudging is not a problem if we realize that we are misjudging, so then we can change.
• 31:16
  The challenge is when we say, as an example, Bitcoin is rat poison. The person, the great and amazing Charlie Munger is judging something without understanding it. Therefore, he's misjudging, believing that he is judging properly. That is where we get frustrated.
• 31:32
  You nailed it. So let me repeat back and tell me if I get this wrong. We don't want to misjudge by jumping to conclusions or without enough information. We want to ask enough questions, understand enough to make a correct judgment. And you're right. Like think of a judge in a court case. This is what they're trying to do.
• 31:50
  Information is brought up by lawyers, by everyone. We put it in front of a jury of our peers, and we try and make a judgment on the situation with as much information as possible from both sides that will be conflicting, ideally enough to make the correct judgment.
• 32:06
  And it's funny to use your example to tie with people. Well, what about in court? If you get assaulted by someone, do you want a judgment against this person who just assaulted you? Or do you want us to say, I can't judge him, which is kind of the world we're in today. He had a really bad day. I think his mom was sick.
• 32:21
  That's happening in some places also, which is like insane. Insane, right? So we've given up your freedom. We've given up your freedom to let them have their own reality and as much freedom as they want to harass and make people feel unsafe and everyone else in a jail.
• 32:37
  So this is interesting. If for a judge or for a court to rule their judgment, they need to hear as much as possible from both sides. That's how they end up with their judgment. Their judgment, maybe another way of saying it, is their opinion, is their assessment.
• 32:56
  of a situation. If they misjudge, it's maybe because they got too emotional about something, they omit certain things that were said, or they didn't care about certain things, or they have an agenda, meaning they have a virus in their brain, and therefore they just go in a different direction.
• 33:17
  That's how misjudgments happen in a courtroom, in our lives. So we want to avoid misjudging. And how do we do that? By gathering as much information as possible from both sides. And then to omit a judgment slash opinion slash assessment of the person of the situation. The challenge with saying like, I don't want to judge. I don't want to judge. It's like...
• 33:41
  So then what do you want to do? Want to die? Like what? Do you want to not think about it? Do you want to just regurgitate whatever somebody else is telling you? You want to be a sheep? Because that's kind of like what you're saying. Yeah. Wow. Beautiful upgrade. Like that's just a software upgrade in my brain right now. I don't want to misjudge.
• 33:56
  That's it, right? It's like, I'm- This on to the world. Cause I don't think that the world is, I don't think the penny has dropped yet into this kind of talking because by saying, I don't want to judge, basically it's kind of like we are repressing ourselves. And when we are repressing ourselves, we are also repressing seeking truth. We are repressing ourselves from seeking truth. Some people are trying to do to you. Let it roll. Let's see what happens.
• 34:24
  The world's shown this tape. There's one side that wins in the end. Well, we already won because we are free. They are not. They operate under communism. We don't. Do you realize how much you flipped me? You literally flipped me from being like, all right, just let me out of the cage. Let me go. Let me go. I'm a pit bull. I'm a pit bull.
• 34:41
  And you're like, down, down. Here's a treat. Down. Okay? Good. Stay in the cage because then I'll let you out to the park. And then you're really free. That's really what it is. You're like, we're done with this place. No more cages for you. Just give me a little time. We're going to go to the park. And you can have more treats and water and fun. We will. Yeah.
• 35:03
  Wow, dude. I mean, does it get you fired up imagining that as a potential path of a founder edge and a purpose and a mission? Is that a path that makes you feel like a missionary? Which path exactly you mean? Creating a... Oh, creating the community, you mean. So this is interesting. The answer is yes, but let me just share with you something that Anastasia shared with me two days ago.
• 35:24
  and which for me was like, so I am a investor. I am a simplifier and an investor. The investor, what it does is we use leverage to catapult something, not something that we create, but something that is already created basically. And yes, maybe we make it a little bit better. Maybe we hire someone to make it a little bit better, but we already see the market fit. The market fit is WhatsApp,
• 35:54
  Sorry, the product is WhatsApp already exists. It's not perfect, but it doesn't matter. The market is saying, I want a place where I can speak every day with people. Okay, done. Now, and crank it up. All full speed. Why? Because there is a market need that is immense. There is a product that already exists. We just need to match them together. And this is what Anastasia said, that this is what I have done.
• 36:20
  over and over and over again. So I don't know. I may want to flip all the following, but I saw when I was 21, I went to Spain for the first time and I saw Jesus, this is it. Meaning freedom. I am caged in Argentina. This is freedom. This is where I can unleash freedom.
• 36:40
  Meaning that's the product for the market. In this case, I am the market. That's the product. That's it. Let's go. Boom. Or when I am traveling around Latin America and I just say, oh my gosh, there is so much, so much demand here that I can create this yoga teacher training and there is no yoga. I'm like, this is insane. Of course, that there is so much need for this right now. The market already exists. Right.
• 37:07
  The product already exists. I'm not coming up with a product. I'm not coming up with, oh, nobody thought ever about a yoga teacher. I just grabbed the same product and I shifted from 12 months to two months. I compressed it 200 hours in one year to two months, which is also a product that already exists somewhere else. And I made it a little bit my own. Product market fit. Crank it up. Then with my current business, there is a product. There is a market. Okay.
• 37:34
  Let's go. Me with Anastasia. I am Anastasia creator, right? Oh no, the product is not perfect. I'm like, the product is beyond perfect. And by the way, the product ended up being way more perfect than I thought that it was. And I'm like, dude, there is a market. I don't know, like a hundred percent. Let's crank it up. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. And now she's all fired up because she realized that there was market fit.
• 37:58
  But I started the Tesla one. I started the Bitcoin one. And I just like, and I accelerated inviting people, passing it. What about, and I don't want to be credited as the person that improved freedom of speech in the entrepreneurial community of Tiger. But man, I pushed a lot of people to speak their opinion. Yeah.
• 38:24
  to speak their mind, to ask questions. How many hours did you study this? Huh, interesting. Rather than being all politically correct and trying not to rough feathers and not to offend anyone and all that. So I am seen, again, as an investor of simple businesses, let's say, I can see the market need, there is the product, and I just mash them together.
• 38:48
  And I just accelerated. Let's go. So now what I realized is that my biggest roadblocks and problems happened because I never had an operator that I can say, go. So I took on myself, right, on...
• 39:05
  Maybe a great operator would have said, you know what, for this cats community, we're going to put these things in place and these things in place and these things in place so that way we are covered on these things and that things. And therefore, the thing would have never happened like that. Because I am not an operator, what I mean is I should have already been super detached from it. And because I am carrying some operational roles and I am not an operator, then I should
• 39:28
  mistakes happen and not that i have a problem with mistakes but i am using my limited time and energy in something that i am not the best rather than how can i create more leverage to make this reach way more people what are the other areas that i can see there is a product that already exists and maybe need to be improved a little more and there is a market need that exists where else
• 39:52
  It is. Where else? Okay. Match together. Go. Match together. Go. So that is the fascinating realization that Anastasia shared with me two days ago. So I already see this. I understand the need. I see the products. Our friend playing that in the WhatsApp message so clearly. And I am the kind of person that can be like, yes, accelerate.
• 40:15
  Oh, because the creator may take too much time, right? Trying to make it perfect. And I already see that it's perfect. And it can be perfected more. Yeah, of course, it doesn't matter. But the fit is there. The operator may not have the vision of how big this can be, how impactful this can be.
• 40:32
  I have, I can see that when I see it. Many times I don't see it, right? But when I see it, I'm like, oh, dude, no, this is game changer. I need to go to Spain. I need to get my Italian passport and I need to go to Spain. And I was like, oh, dude, this is game changer. I need to quit my office job 16 years ago. People are like, are you insane? No, you don't understand. There is product market fit here.
• 40:54
  I need to be freed up from this nonsense, even though it's giving me good money, so I can do this other thing. But what are you going to eat? Are you crazy? Like what? No, no, no. Everything's going to work out fine. Just trust me. You will see. I see the product market fit and I just go. I used to call it, my unique ability is identifying patterns and I have a huge speed to action.
• 41:18
  I identify the pattern and I act faster or faster than most people. And it's a very similar thing said with different words, which is I see the product market fit and then I just use leverage to 10 exit, 100 exit, a million exit. Yeah, it's not that. It's, let me see, what is the best way of defining it?
• 41:37
  I don't have the perfect definition that really nails it down. So maybe you can help me with this. But what I would say is, you know, the phrase that there is do this thing and then you move the world. What is the name? If you have a long enough lever and you can shift the world, you can lift the world.
• 41:54
  Yes. So basically what that means is we all have massive leverage in the thing that we are incredibly great at. The biggest challenge, one of the biggest challenges in life is discover what is that leverage? What is that thing that you are incredible at? So that's your leverage.
• 42:12
  That's the thing that I can use one hour of my time and create a massive impact. So what is my leverage? Identifying the pattern, seeing the product market, the product that already exists with the market need that already exists, and then bringing it together. That's my leverage that catapults this to an imaginable result.
• 42:33
  I think that we are onto something. I didn't want to say a word because you're flowing. And it was art, seriously. It was artistic and it was, it took some feedback from you, right? Just asking questions, right? There's only one question if I was a viewer, is like leverage. A lot of people are watching real estate podcasts and
• 42:49
  And seriously thinking leverage is only that, right? I see leverage as human capital leverage. So that's involving people, bringing humans that can really accelerate. There's financial leverage, which is typically considered the debt. There's information leverage, right? So there's getting the information out in a way that it really catapults who knows it, how quickly they know it, how they understand it.
• 43:11
  right? Simplifying how it's communicated. But Pablo, I was laughing with us. Just think about everything you just said. We met in Austin, Texas. At that weekend, I handed you this idea that, you know, I don't, I'm sure there was someone, but no one had like really seen this kind of, it didn't exist at all. And I had put a first one and then you took it and applied your wild leverage of information, people, clarity, say, Hey, this is cool. And now that this scared, scared guy, Peter's out of the way, I'm going to just...
• 43:39
  put the pedal down and shift the world. Then think of another one, Anastasia, I had multiple calls with her and I said, I will get your first group together. So I posted in the group and I got 12 people that said, I'm interested. I handed them to her in a list. I think it was 20. And I said, go do this. You saw the first group a lot, you know, were there. You clearly said, hey, we gotta cut down on the people that go rogue and take over 30 minutes. We gotta cut. And when you said these things, I was like, oh yeah, that's totally right.
• 44:08
  Well, let me just say one thing. And I know that you helped with putting this first group together. But the amount of work that I had to do for Anastasia to really make it happen, it was intense. She was not there. And I'm not claiming, sorry, just to be clear, I'm not claiming that I did. Sorry, what you did is you grabbed this group that was going to check her online course for free, basically.
• 44:33
  I told her it needed to be in person. There was a communication issue. Some people thought that the event was free because she didn't communicate properly. You did the first thing and then you give it to her. Give it really to you, right? Like she took a shot. And I'm saying this less as a credit or who's doing more, which is more impactful. It's a fun part of why I think we enjoy even stuff like High School Hustle and Nonprofit. Like I just saw that like this doesn't exist. And I'm imagining what do I wish existed when I was in high school? This. And I'm like...
• 45:01
  And everyone's like, I don't know. You can't do like that doesn't exist. You can't do that. And I'm like, no, I don't care. And it's very mediocre. Like it's not, it is not there, right? It gets like now it's on the map. So it's 40% better than what existed before, which was zero, but it's 40, 50%. And I do think Anastasia nailed it for you. Your ability to take something from 40 to 50% and then execute to get it to 80, 90, 95 is really a talent that is a superpower of yours.
• 45:28
  And this is also, it's just a case, and I'm still digesting and processing this information, this realization, is where are all the places that I see the product market fit that the creator or the operator and or the operator don't see it yet? And how to crank it up? Or how can I help to crank it up? This is something that I am not sure yet because...
• 45:52
  When you share, I mean, think about the conversation that we had with Hunter. You guys were aiming for a certain number and I'm like, okay, how, how do, how do you add one more zero or two more zeros to this?
• 46:04
  And just to clarify for the listeners, that's not with leverage. This is a nonprofit that he's talking about. Yeah, we have XYZ goal. Okay, great. Add two more zeros. How do you get there at the same time? Because I'm thinking, this is an in-brainer. This should exist everywhere. I don't know enough about Alpha School, but if it matches what I heard from everyone, I don't understand why they don't have...
• 46:27
  300 schools instead of five. And that is what I want to now start focusing really all my time into that. So one is identifying the dislocation, which is interesting. It's exactly the same thing that I do with my investments, right? I understand the dislocation. I see the market need, I see the product, and I just buy it. So here's the same. I see Anastasia's product, I see the market need,
• 46:54
  And I just push to make it happen. The challenge is how do I, because one thing is to be helping. But when I'm helping is I'm just with you and it's up to you guys, like whatever. A different thing is like, but is that the best way of using my leverage, using my powers? Where you challenge me in such an effective way. So context, I may already have said this. Pablo has stayed with me for 10 days and I'm driving him to the airport on the 10th day. And he's like, hey, can I share something? And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
• 47:22
  And you dropped it on me. You said, I was not using my powers correctly. I am a creator. Now, the question is, how much investor do I have, too? Because I have a pretty good track record on when I found Bitcoin, I went all in within 30 days.
• 47:38
  of actually doing 10 hours of research, which is very clear, along with even my startups, right? Or these different things. Now, I think it goes second to creating for me, but you saying, Peter, these things you're starting, when you get timid and don't own it, right? And really own it. And this goes for anything I'm doing, right? And I like people thinking broadly, whether it's businesses, nonprofits, your home, your friendships, any of them. If you don't own it,
• 48:06
  then you've seeded the outcome to someone else. And when you do that, you've given away power. And if this is something you really care about and it's truly your superpower, you want to drive it to the maximum result across all areas of life. And the way to do that, here's the flip,
• 48:23
  I was thinking I would need to protect my time. Oh, I worked 100 hours a week from my first job in college and my first business. Like, I can't do that. I don't want to do that again. Well, the flip is I would if I was a missionary. I will when it's a missionary cause.
• 48:38
  I'll never get to being a missionary if I'm handing these over to someone else because I'm a minority position, a minority vote, a minority owner, a minority opinion in whatever area of life. And by flipping it, I can actually spend less time and have a larger outcome because it's my superpower and it's this area where I can shift the world in terms of that leverage.
• 49:01
  I love that. And also another way of seeing this is when you say, I don't want to spend a lot of time. Therefore, I'm going to hand off or give away majority. The only way for you to spend less time is to own in majority, not to giving away majority. Because if you are the boss, nobody's going to be like, hey, Peter, why you're not here at nine? If you're a minority, who's the right? Spot on.
• 49:30
  I mean, it's spot on. And it took you sharing a truth that I had misjudged. I made a judgment, which was minority last time. You gave me more information outside of my own head and my little world that I'm operating. I was able to listen to it. I wanted to say this earlier. Okay.
• 49:47
  You know, my mom only works with dyslexic students. She has for 20 years. Started with my brother, and it's like she is in her place of superpower. She takes these kids that have been beaten down by the system and industrial education, and she rebuilds them, their confidence, their awareness. She gets notes from them 12 years later when they graduate college, and they're like, I wouldn't have gone to college without you.
• 50:07
  I'm going to college because I graduated. So it's just, she's incredible and won the lottery of moms. But I keep thinking about learn and learn is spelled L-E-A-R-N, but I'm obsessed with spelling it L-U-R-N. It's like a dyslexic way, right? But it's learn, unlearn, relearn the new information. And it's like,
• 50:29
  That is the learn we need to do. And that is a learning we don't get exposed to in school of the judge, right? Hey, the judge, I have two sets of information. I have this side and this side. Well, I've always been given this side at home or whatever, but...
• 50:44
  This is kind of interesting, this new perspective. Have I been misjudging picking this one? Oh, wow. I'm going to judge this one. Okay. I no longer misjudge. I've made a judgment. That skill is what results in the outperformance in life or typically surviving rather than thriving, right? It's learning that learning, not L-E-A-R-N learning.
• 51:08
  Yeah. And what I would like to do is to, that we don't need to unlearn. We need to, because we were, we were put in the sausage machine. So we need to clean, we need to cleanse ourselves from the nonsense. Right. But what I would like to do is kids do not need to do that.
• 51:26
  Will they have to in their life, though? Won't they have to unlearn stuff? There is always some of that. I guess what I am talking about, of the answer is yes. What I am talking about is not, what's the percentage? Yeah. You are 18. Look at one 18-year-old that went to traditional education
• 51:43
  You're like, dude, okay, you made it. You are 18. Now you need to unlearn 97% of everything that you learned. Okay, good luck. Why don't we? Because the more we learn to, I wouldn't say protect, but just to clearly understand or clearly how to judge things, the less noise we let in. And that helps a lot because we get to learn new things.
• 52:06
  You cannot learn and unlearn at the same time. You can do one or the other one. And if I need to spend 97% of my time cleaning the mess that I have inside of my brain because of all the clutter and noise that was put in my head, man, that's a much more tedious work instead of me just learning. And...
• 52:29
  I have an incredible filter, incredible noise filter, that when I go out to the world to start working or to start whatever, I have the filter, the bullshit filter on me that I learned in my early childhood, in my teenage years. Now life is a little bit easier. That's something that I feel that is so powerful. This is a clear market need. I don't see a product that exists yet.
• 52:58
  But this is just so needed, especially in a world where factory workers are not really needed or will not be really needed. Like for the kids that are being brainwashed today in 10 years, 20 years. And especially, OK, let's just even focus about first world countries. Most of these people are being brainwashed not to be factory workers. They're being brainwashed to sit behind a desk, which makes zero sense.
• 53:24
  You want to have behind the desk independent thinkers, critical thinkers, people that think from first principles. That's how you create a lot of value. And it doesn't need to be, oh, everyone is an entrepreneur. No, no, no. But you can be an entrepreneur. And you can create way more value and, of course, benefiting from that in a capitalistic society, not in a communist society, of course.
• 53:51
  Something that I am fascinated to learn more is how does this Simplifier investor create or Anastasia is thinking of calling this an artist because I think that an artist makes more sense and I will explain it in a second why, but it would be very interesting to see how does that apply to...
• 54:09
  employees, because I think that that would be fascinating to learn. Is that something that could apply to employees or not? There's a big confusion, right? Because we are all creators as an entrepreneur. If you're an entrepreneur, if you created a business just by creating an LLC, you're a creator. The question is, are you an artist? The artist is people that obsess about the product.
• 54:32
  That's what's so interesting because I don't have that. You might be an operator. I don't know the answer, but I obsess about... If you obsess about systems. I obsess about birthing these things because I see them. I wake up at 3 a.m. and I have three hours of notes on seeing things that don't exist. Okay, don't exist at all. Zero. I mean, high school hustle didn't exist at all. And it was just a complete creation.
• 54:56
  But is it? I created the mastermind, right? The mastermind for Amazon sellers. You saw a bad example. Did masterminds already existed? Or I came up for the first time in the world with that? Like, no, I, of course, existed. I created the version from first principles that made sense to what we needed. The new community that it's going to happen is...
• 55:18
  It's something that we are creating from first principles based on a market need and tons of different products that already exist. You know, it's funny. I think I might be an investor.
• 55:30
  I'm serious. You need to speak with Anastasia. I told her, we had a call. She said she wasn't ready to give me all the feedback right now. She needed to think about it. So I said, if you want to do a voice note, if you want to do a call, I'm ready, whatever. That was last week, but you're right. I think this one's a little bit hard. I'm obsessed with all the personality type stuff. Myers-Briggs, disc assessment, Enneagram, Big Five. Yeah, you are a complicator for sure. A complicator for sure. But I love all of those. I like them all because they're all uniquely defined. It's like a tool and a tool belt.
• 55:59
  Like you need the hammer. Okay, here it is. Okay, you need the chisel. Each of them has a unique view. There's another one called the four tendencies of how to motivate people. That's amazing. Gretchen Rubin has that one. I think I'm an investor. I really do. Because Pablo, I'm thinking about as you're talking, I didn't create high school hustle. What it was is I kept seeing when I meet Pablo or these business people, I saw the same thing. They started earlier. And all I did was take what I saw
• 56:26
  and apply, you know, download, think of this system that I've seen in other things like Boy Scouts or Newspaper Model. I think that is the point that you need to somehow with Anastasia maybe understand better because in whatever you have, your company's...
• 56:43
  this the your house the high school hassle anything that you do being you are putting an artistic touch you are putting an operational touch and you are putting an investor touch everything that we do is the same thing the question is well this is maybe anastasian is to ask the right question is where is the place that you feel drawn towards
• 57:07
  I definitely feel drawn to starting. Like the initial stage is the part that gets me like it's a drug. Okay, but once the thing is running, let's say, and it's happening...
• 57:18
  It's so funny. I'm laughing not to cut you off. I'm laughing because even that I'm not sure. What I'm drawn to, like I started a business last year with someone, and it's been a fun experience because I don't have to show up. When I do, I'm drawn to doing what you do as an investor. I do that as well. Hey, I bet we could go 10x. Let's think about that. Now let's back into it. And that, basically creating the new system or the way of thinking of it, or maybe the investment of it, is like the only way I want to be involved going forward.
• 57:46
  Maybe. Again, here's where you are mixing two things. And maybe this is because if let's say that you are an investor and I'm also an investor, complicator, simplifier, maybe that's the difference that we are seeing. I don't know. When I think about me as an investor, I would never be talking about systems and processes. Like people in my company can quote me saying all the systems. I don't want to see an SOP. But is that the simplifier coming out there?
• 58:10
  That's my simplifier or that's my investor. That's the part that I don't know. Therefore, when you're talking about systems and processes, is that your operator talking or no, no, no. This is your investor complicator talking. That's the part that I don't know, Anastasia.
• 58:25
  Here's the unique thing is what I don't like is 2% improvements in the systems. What I like is the system that changes the game when I come up with a system. That's why I don't really think I'm an operator because getting a 5%, like I look at private equity and think those are operator, those are like,
• 58:43
  But Elon Musk is an operator. He loves coming in to think of the 10x better. How can I 10x better this industry? Yeah. So if he's an operator complicator, just being an operator complicator doesn't mean that you have to be a team cook, that you improve the camera every year by 0.1%. He is a team cook. He's an operator. But that doesn't mean that there are different levels of operators.
• 59:10
  So much of us are holding on to our money. It's like we don't realize our time, our shot clock will expire in many ways. Even if you don't have a big bank account right now. When you feel energy from something, and a real like, this is something I should be pursuing, put the money down. Because the likelihood of you, the energy is the real currency, and the likelihood of you just burning off your life, wasting it, trying to chase the wrong type of money, that doesn't feel good and doesn't end up being money anyway.
• 59:37
  It's like people overvalue... You need to flip it to think time is the valuable thing. Positive energy is the valuable thing. Not the money that you do or don't have right now. That is less valuable than those two. But bring it down to an example for me. So an example would be podcasts. Let's say that this is going to cost us both, I don't know, tens of thousands of dollars, right? It's like there's initial, oh, I'm spending money. But if you buy our sponsor sticky notes...
• 1:00:05
  And this is a real thing, right? So part of me is like, okay, I write a check for whatever, $25,000 or $20,000 for this person. It just still feels uncomfortable, right? There's no ROI and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:00:21
  What's the investment? But the flip side is like, you know what? I love talking to Pablo. I love him upgrading my software. I love trading these thoughts. And if this helps people, even if it's just like a small group of people, and maybe we help the people that hate on us feel better about themselves when they look in the mirror and get to destroy us in the notes. Like...
• 1:00:40
  It is more important to pursue that than to try and amass additional money that's more likely than not I'm going to have enough when I die anyway. I'm not going to die because of starvation, even though my brain tells me worry about that.
• 1:00:56
  It's just a fascinating flip. And not only that, sorry, just think about anything that you do. I'm just thinking about, let's say, preventive medicine, which can be osteopathy or acupuncture or whatever you do. You are fronting money in order for you and fronting money and time.
• 1:01:17
  in order for you to have more energy. So here will be the same thing. We are fronting time and we are fronting money. For us, after we finish, our energy level is off the charts. And this is coming back to what you said, that this has to feel like play or we don't do it.
• 1:01:34
  And I think that that is the goal of anything and everyone. And I know if you are struggling to pay rent, I get it. I've been there. But are you really going to live an incredible life on your own terms by just keep working in this?
• 1:01:50
  job that you hate. Because I'm sure that if you're struggling to pay rent, most likely you are not getting paid very well in the job that you have because you are not able to provide enough value. And that's what the marketplace is recognizing you with a dollar amount or a currency amount that is not enough for you. So I know that this is a very difficult topic and sensitive topic because there is just so much. But you understand, I have five kids. I'm like, I get it. I get it. I'm sure that there is a lot of reasons. But what's your alternative?
• 1:02:19
  besides complaining, right? There has to be a way, and I'm sure that there are examples of people that got ahead or got out of the worst situation. So if they did it, you can do it too. And I think that the correct judgment is, it's a job for you, right? For me. It doesn't mean it's a bad job for everyone, right? Someone that might do their dream job at Unlock. There's a market mismatch in terms of your unique skills and powers.
• 1:02:47
  and what you're choosing to do probably because of fear. And it doesn't mean you're bad. It doesn't mean the job's bad. It's bad for me. It's bad for him. And we have to define that and realize that as we have. Like I did investment banking. Bad job for me. I had guys that loved it that were so good, detail-oriented. I am terrible about details, terrible about numbers, hate Excel, hate finances, right? Like I'm glad I pushed through to learn it. I wanted to learn it.
• 1:03:13
  But it's a really big mismatch of my skills here, the skills needed there, their personality versus other areas. Suddenly, entrepreneurship with these other areas, I'm here, right? Oof, that's big. Yeah.
• 1:03:31
  Looking at the education point you said, what if we get our kids to have less of this instead of 94% stuff they need to unlearn? Let's get it to 20% or whatever. I think it's so fascinating because that's the skill I want to be pushing my kids to be constantly unlearning, right?
• 1:03:50
  To unlearn what? To unlearn. Here's the key phrase to think about. Every piece of technology, everything is a placeholder. So this phone, I believe we're going to have a robot that sits next to us and follows us around. And they're going to record, make phone calls and everything in real time. Like this is my own, you know, timestamp it.
• 1:04:08
  Maybe wrong. One day you are going to be right. We don't know when. I'm going to be right. So that phone is going to be this weird thing that had our skulls tipping over, which 38 pounds of extra, 10 pounds of extra weight every inch. So three inches, 30 pounds. We're going to have a robot that is like massaging us. Yes. But it is a temporary placeholder. Every piece of technology. So that means we are required to replace. So let's think of another one.
• 1:04:33
  A friend I have called, sent me a message and said, Peter, you need to buy this Kindle Scribe. Thank you. Buy now with our link. Subscribe to our sponsor, Kindle Scribe. Definitely click on the link so we can get one cent per sale. I need this money. I've got four kids.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah. So I was using paper. Paper is pretty good technology, right? It's been around for a long time. This was a big upgrade because in the middle of the night, I get my big ideas. I need to write them down. The paper and pen was a temporary technology that will be replaced. And when we realize that, we realize we will constantly be learning, unlearning, relearning with new information. Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  So I had learned pen and paper. It's pretty good, right? It's been around a long time. You showed me a way to unlearn that, to relearn it with the new information. I bought it without trying. I was like, 500 bucks. You know what? Like, it's not, oh, wait, it's free. Because, and it is, right? Now I'm operating at this level where $5,000 would have been a good deal for this.
• 1:05:37
  So I wouldn't say that it's unlearning. I think that you are learning on top because your skill of writing. Now we may say, but what when we get to voice and so on? You're right. But the writing helps also with learning to read, to learning to talk.
• 1:05:55
  to learning to communicate. So you are just building on top of something that already exists. And it's not that we need to unlearn it. Do we need to unlearn the tool though? I don't think that we need to unlearn. I see that a little bit different because unlearn to me is, you know what? We cannot do anything else. I need to remove this virus that I have inside of me.
• 1:06:21
  So I can be healthy. Because what I got implanted... I see what you're saying. In my first 20 years of life or whatever. Up is down, down is up. It's noise. It's a lie. And now I need to realize a lot of this is bullshit. Many things are bullshit. Some things are bullshit. I need to remove the way of thinking in this direction because this other direction is the truth. It's the real truth. It's based on first principles.
• 1:06:50
  I see what you're saying of essentially learning first principles so that you can think clearly in any situation. Agree with that. Think about all these kids that are being taught that socialism and communism is a great idea. And I'm talking about kids in the Western world. They are going to have to learn...
• 1:07:06
  very very fast and some people like Bernie Sanders they will just never learn they will die thinking that that's the right way and it's their life it's their their experience in this earth with this body their thing not mine imagine before the cars right people were driving horses and then the car comes around they don't need to unlearn to drive a horse because because driving well I am guessing right driving a horse
• 1:07:33
  doesn't really impact the new skill of driving a car unless they are pulling the steering wheel to brake, right? Maybe, maybe that was a thing that people are like, oh, I don't brake by pulling the steering wheel to my face. Okay, got it. Oh, I need to use these pedals here. Okay, maybe when you moved from paper,
• 1:07:54
  to kindle, did you really need to unlearn? Maybe you need to build a new habit. But I would say that that is a little bit different, building a new habit than what I learned is. This is terrible. Oh, I learned to conform. I learned to obey a person that has authority just because the person is in front of me that was hired by somebody else that I don't even know. This makes zero sense. Now I need to disregard all that.
• 1:08:23
  This is the battle I'm having in my house right now. You're going to laugh so hard at this. There was a star system created. When the kids go to bed by 7.30, they get a star, right? In your house? In my house. What? It's in the last, like, month. Oh, it's a new thing. It's a new thing. I had no involvement in it. You were not made aware? Not made aware. Who did this? I don't know. I'm not sure. It's a good question to ask. But I just kept having an issue. How did you realize it? Wait, wait, I'm so curious.
• 1:08:51
  I thought it was just fun stars. The idea was when they do something cool, it's fun stars they get they can go put somewhere. It's like a fun toy, right? I do think the star of going to bed, like one thing, I'm testing that idea out. Like, okay, you brush your teeth, you get your school ready for bed, everything else. We'll give a star. So you get to say, hey, I'm running a record. Like I've...
• 1:09:13
  I'm completing a streak, right? Okay, I'll try that. My wife, right? She is much more compliance, obedience-oriented. So I see, I either hear her say a comment or something about, if you do this, you get a star, right? Something complete. And it like, oh my gosh, it, my whole body cringes. And wait, you have to hear this because I sent this to our babysitters and my wife. You're going to love this because I bring this like these two belief systems in. Out of the blue, right? Nobody's talking about stars.
• 1:09:41
  I don't want to overdo external incentives. This promotes just listening to what any adult, parentheses, we, I, are often wrong. Let's just keep stars for bedtime routine. We want to guide them with as much intrinsic as possible. Help them answer their questions. Stars makes them long-term change from inside rather than outside. Outside is short-term and doesn't last. Kids don't actually get the logic and reasoning of why they are doing it. And I was laughing because...
• 1:10:12
  It's so deeply held in my belief system, right, that I want my kids to learn this filter that you're describing of questioning everything, understanding why it happens. Now, I misjudged your statement, right? Now I see it and I agree. It makes sense. That is less optimal or in a business. I'm unlearning the software I use to run the business for this new system or, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:10:36
  Yes, but what I am saying is unlearning... One's more important than the other. Sometimes you need to unlearn, let's say, a habit, just to keep it a skill, before you put the new one in place. And sometimes that skill that you learned, that you had a habit, you can just come up with a new one. And in fact, yeah, it just helps you even more. Because imagine that you don't know how to write. And I give you a Kindle.
• 1:11:01
  What good is for you? It's complicated because now you need to learn how to write. You don't even have the habit of writing ever. So I think that there is a difference and there is a clear distinction. Maybe with more examples, we can analyze the different distinctions on this. And I just go back to the screen. I'm like, Jesus, what are the habits?
• 1:11:20
  that school teaches most kids? And I ask these kinds of questions across all different countries, at least in the Western world. And it's very similar, maybe because of the influence, as you said, about the school system, the German school system of 170 years ago, 180 years ago, which is to comply, to obey, to follow the rules, the authority, and to stay in line with
• 1:11:47
  The majority of people don't stick out. Don't stand out. Just be quiet. Be calm. I mean, I didn't experience it. Maybe you didn't. But the typical thing of teachers with a ruler and hitting the keys, what is that? We may say, oh, that's crazy. Oh, are you saying that it didn't happen? So then they went from the ruler to go to the principal office. Still the same ruler. You are ruling someone. Look at that. Like you're using the ruler to rule someone.
• 1:12:16
  So that is the habit. And not only that, that just also impacts our survival mechanism. Because you know what? I mean, we spoke about, we started speaking about getting kicked out. When you are a kid and you can get kicked out of the school, man, that is kind of like the end of the world, almost for a kid. Now you cannot see your friends anymore.
• 1:12:36
  blah, blah, blah. It feels like the end. It's gonna depend on your support system. But for a kid that doesn't really have a support system because their parents are working and the school is basically their educator. So now you go to the real world and Jesus, man, you have to
• 1:12:53
  delete a lot, that's why it becomes so difficult, so much noise. You need to delete and you need to remove habits. You need to really unlearn to then you can build on top. And what I'm saying is, if we can bring all this
• 1:13:08
  We don't need to teach teach, quote unquote. 1984 term, you know? You just, what is the opposite of teach? Like, what is like the, like force? Okay, let's just use force. Like, we need to force, we need to apply people to do XYZ. Why do we need to do that?
• 1:13:25
  We don't. That is the beautiful thing. We don't. I love that. And I mean, coming back to these words, right? The word choices, right? When you think about freedom, right? To me, freedom and fair are opposites. The more free, the less fair. The more fair, the less free. But it's also, I never thought about this until you said it. The more free, the less force required.
• 1:13:47
  Because the more flow you have. The more flow you have, the more people find their alignment, right? They find their system, right? The more force you have, the less freedom, right? It comes back to what you said at the beginning. Hey, Pablo, just quiet down a little bit. Hey, you know, just... And it comes back to make... There are makers and there are takers. Makers create that ultimately should... Will provide for everyone because they're transacting, they're buying, they're learning, they're...
• 1:14:12
  adjusting whatever in whatever way they're providing value to the world. Takers say, no, no, no, you have a little bit too much. You know, now I'm not saying there should be none, right? The government ideally in a perfect case is taking some to provide better services that level transportation and, you know, people in the worst situation. But that goes overboard, just like school. People then go overboard on taking, right? They start thinking, I am more important than the makers.
• 1:14:38
  And ultimately, anytime you start pushing down the makers, society struggles more. That's it, just a simple process. The more you lift up, the more you attract and lift up makers, the more everyone thrives. That's just a result, right? And when you push them down, you get problems. You get less creativity, you get less creation, you get less problem solved. You get worse products at higher prices.
• 1:14:59
  Less efficiency. Yeah, 100%. 100% bingo, my brother. I feel like your face looks skinnier. Let's do a side... Let's see how... We'll call him Hot Pablo. Fat Pablo, Hot Pablo. Fluffy. Fat's a strong word. Fluffy Pablo. No, fat. Let's use the right words. Don't be a... You okay? Virtuous signaling. Fat Pablo. You're right, but I also just love the word fluffy. Fluffy.
• 1:15:26
  Okay. That's a different, you know, if you love it, you love it. But not just because. There's something like, you know. You don't want to melt snowflakes. Peter, listen to this. What is the nature of a snowflake? It melts when the sun comes out. It's going to melt. When the sun comes out. There is no snowflake that didn't melt. Yep. It's just a matter of time. Like communism. But just think about what is. It's a matter of time until it melts.
• 1:15:46
  The sun is the light. It's the ultimate disinfectant. It's the ultimate destroyer of snowflakes. And this is why I was talking to someone yesterday. I love learning these things where I'm wrong, that behavior makes sense with enough information. So at least to understand why people are behaving in this way,
• 1:16:05
  then is like this unlock of, oh, this is how they see the world. And it may be judgment incorrect, right? They don't have enough information or knowledge or experience. But those are the truths that when I hear them, it's like goosebumps, especially when I'm wrong, right? When I'm living in a misjudgment and it corrects that. Brother, love you. Love you, brother.