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- speaker-0: Hey, welcome to the Mark Workman Show. We're getting started here this morning. welcome back. we appreciate you joining us each week. It's just a lot of fun. And we just enjoy doing these and look forward to them. Talk about them all week for what we're gonna do on Thursdays. So just thank you for coming. We we just enjoy this opportunity to encourage you and in your journey with your health and all of those. Today's an interesting show. We're gonna maybe change it up from diet and what we eat, what we put in our mouth. to what it's actually doing to our body, our muscles and how important exercise is and how you know, a lifetime or lifelong journey of exercising and moving and doing different activities and especially after sixty, which is maybe w what I'm thinking about in this show in terms of as I've turned sixty and I'm moving through my sixties, that you know, I just want to have that that mobility, the balance, the independence, the confidence to keep moving. And I I know that those are challenges for as we get older to keep moving, to keep going. But today's show we're gonna just focus on that. And you know, we just have some just basics to go through, but it should be enlightening in the sense of just focusing realizing that the muscles are super important for for our lives. And if we're not taking care of that, no matter how you diet. that even though that'll help it won't create maybe the lifestyle you want. So we really want to focus on that today. Thank you for joining us and and welcome back Kathy. Here we go. We're gonna talk about exercise and and moving which you are a big big advocate of you you love the idea of not sitting around you definitely keep your butt and give And and it's a motivator for me because there's times when, you know, I want to sit and watch a football game or, you know, you know, as we get older as men, we we definitely wanna it's just I think it's natural in some ways, but we need to fight that urge to be sedentary. speaker-1: To correct that for you though. I would say earlier in your years, when you were heavier, you were less interested. And so now I can at least get you wiggling. Let's go for a bike ride. Let's go for a walk. So I can get you away from the football game for just a little bit. Or so anyway, but speaker-0: Yeah, no, I lo I definitely like to get moving and I actually can get a little frustrated if I'm not got something going on. So speaker-1: The truth is it's like a snowball effect. If you don't feel good, you don't do good. And when you start feeling better and doing other things, and that's why really even we we could talk about 60, but there's those mile markers in our life that I think we've all said, okay, when I get 40, I'm gonna do this, or when I'm gonna hit 50, I do this. And in our 50s, we kind of started learning some things and implementing some things. And I think it's empowering when you know you can make some changes. for a little bit there I'd say we got stuck in kind of the politics of like, the sky the sky is falling. And we've kind of come back to what can we change? So focusing on the things that we can change and make better has been more I would say beneficial for our health as well. speaker-0: Yeah. What happens to us if we stop if we stop the process of focusing on exercise and muscle development as we age? What is you know, what would be your opinion is the outcome of us ignoring that we need to be exercising and developing our muscle strength? speaker-1: Well, you've seen those little old men and little old ladies. It's called sarcopenia. If you're not using it, you're losing it. And so we just start shrinking. Sarcopenia. speaker-0: Sarcopenia? Sarcopenia. I never heard of that. Okay, so that's a new term. And that's you're obviously aware of that. So we shrink in in many ways, right? So speaker-1: Right. Your bones, it like, you know, again, they lowered the sodium levels, so your body has to take it from your bones. We just start shrinking. And so at the age of thirty, we start losing muscle, which is again that st that st structure and we can see people literally shrink and get speaker-0: Little. Yeah, so from thirty on, we're losing muscle if we're not doing anything. And and and from what I've read, it accelerates after sixty. That's why, you know, in a little bit I'm I probably bring that up more often than you will in this show, but 'cause I think about it quite a bit, is the idea that it accelerates at sixty, you know, in I always say that I lost a decade from like forty to fifty was a decade that I felt like I gave up and you know, I was working and getting focused and then, you know, different challenges came along and I obviously stepped aside from taking care of myself. I was, you know, I was doing a lot of reading. My mind wasn't going blank, but in terms of physical health, I just stopped thinking about it. And I think in some ways for me, and I'm not saying this in a braggadocious way or any way to create an environment around me in terms of you know bragging or anything, but as a young man I was a very strong, very powerful Athlete, high school, college, was able to do anything. I could pick up a golf club, swing it, smack it to the green, you you name anything. I I just had this natural abilities to kind of pick up and do anything. And so I think in my mindsets, I created a mindset that I would probably always have that. I remember I used to tell the boys, when I'm 70, I'll be kicking your butt. And you know, and and that's just not the case, you know. speaker-1: It's interesting though, 'cause I feel like a lot of my clients were, you know, the athletic. And I think it's kind of like we almost get in this daze and you wake up and you're like, who hijacked my body and what happened? 100%. And then there's the shame and the guilt. And because the system has set us up for failure, we think it's our fault. And it's even harder, I think, for those people that once had it and and then don't anymore. So but it's a great motivator because It's you have the mindset in there. And it's kind of like that muscle memory. It can come back when we when we take focus and we're doing the proper things and we're do have the right information to go on. speaker-0: Well, just like we've seen with you know, the unicity and the protocol, the spinning wheel of of things that come from insulin resistance, and how fast do people respond to just the change in protocol? Literally within a week, the body's responding, right? Yeah. And I believe it's the same with exercise. You know, yeah. I've kind of changed my routine the last few months as I've been trying to swim more. I'm doing much more low impact stuff, and I've just really enjoyed that. And then even yesterday. I returned to the weights again. and and I feel so much better. I want I'm wondering if before I wasn't working out and hurting my joints. Now I'm coming back more gently, still doing the weights, but I'm thinking about how I'm doing them as I get older. But I know I need to keep doing it. But the body can respond incredibly fast. It's amazing. speaker-1: yeah, I'm actually really really quite shocked at The results that people get. And sometimes, again, I like to think of it as it's it's a fertilizer to the roots. It goes to your root system and it's not a weight loss program per se. It's a metabolic health, which encompasses a whole whole bunch of different things. And this protocol seems to go right to the root and it's like a a tree. It's gonna heal what's broken. I don't have to climb around up in my tree to find out what branches need cut off, what I need to spray on this and what I need to spray on that. If you're giving the root system what it needs, it just re-in reiterates how amazing our bodies are. And they're designed to heal when we give them what they need. And when we're putting things in there that they don't need, it always kind of upsets that apple cart, so to speak. So anyway, yeah, it's it's it's great and it's empowering. like I said, when we have the right information that we can really get some true great results. speaker-0: Yeah. Well, I made a list here. You know, I just asked the question what do muscles actually do? and just made a list of my own. walking, and I think it I'm focused on my age, and it should be all our our whole lives stay active, right? standing up from a a chair, being able to get out of a chair. Now they got electric chairs that stand you up now because people can't even get out of a chair. Right. You know, those are really indications that you're off, I think. I and I don't begrudge people. That have that. There's people with disabilities or whatever challenges they got. I get it. But again, I don't want to get to that point, you know. climbing stairs. Yeah, you know, I know in my 40s I couldn't climb stairs as good as I can now. Yeah, it it it's really fascinating. maintaining balance. I'm not good with maintaining balance. So you're supposed to be able to balance on one foot for just more than 10 seconds. I can do more than 10 seconds, but I know that I'm thinking about it and working at it to stay balanced, you know, which tells me I gotta work. speaker-1: So interestingly enough, OSHA knows that most people in their fifties, we start actually losing some equilibrium and some balance in our fifties. And that's why you'll see people fall off ladders like they used to be able to climb a ladder. And we think in our mind that we're how we were years ago, and then we go to try to do things and it's like, we're falling off of stuff. But there is actually that equilibrium that starts getting off. And if you're not working on your balance, it is getting worse and worse. speaker-0: Well, like and in my list I put protecting the joints, supporting the spine, so you can have the proper weight. You know, if you don't have proper muscles, you start slumping, quirk curling forward. You know, there's all kinds of things with that. If you don't have your muscles, you know, actively working. it produces heat. So if you're cold, you most likely have a low muscle mass, you know, and and burning calories, muscles burn calories, storing glucose and helping regulate blood sugar. That would be all over your list, wouldn't it be? speaker-1: Yeah, that's exactly why I guess I was super concerned when the GLP ones came out and everybody's like, Woohoo, this is all the rage. We're dropping all this weight. But what they don't realize is forty percent of the weight they're losing is muscle mass. And your muscle is the is what's like you said in here, is is absorbing and using eighty-five percent of the glucose. So when we're eating fuel and you have no engine to burn it, then it just goes into storage. So we know statistically that people that have been on the GLP one, if they go off it bec if they haven't changed their habits, they haven't focused on protein, they will balloon right back up. That's why they say you have to be on it for life. speaker-0: But without the muscle. speaker-1: Right. Because if you don't have muscle, like I said, you'll blow right back up afterwards because there's nowhere for that glucose to go. So it's just gotta go to storage. And that's where that education and information is so important. It's not just yeah, you'll lose weight, but it's your muscle mass that you're losing, which is so dangerous. speaker-0: We were listening to a dietitian that we are familiar with, Shannon Davis, and she was talking about after two years, I think it's after two years is the correct number of years, a lot of people have put back on everything they took off with the the the injections. Yeah. Yeah. And at that time, if they've done that, they put on the weight back without the muscle, so they're even in a worse spot. speaker-1: They're in a worse spot. And that's really why they say if you go on a GLP one, you're on it for life. They don't tell you that when you go on it, but I like to say it's like that escalator. You think, I'm gonna get to my goal weight and I'm gonna get off and life is gonna be good. Well, there's no off ramp if you're not making a plan in advance. So it's just keep taking you up and up and up and speaker-0: Well, what we're what we're gonna discuss today is basically the muscles are the engine of the body. and the larger, you know, the healthier muscles are, the really better life you're gonna have. So they are the engine. diet is absolutely critical for you know what energy we're putting in and how it's being handled. But the muscles are one hundred percent a metabolic energy. How you use energy. We've learned about metabolism in this in this show. What met w just say tell again what metabol what the metabolism is. speaker-1: Is how your body uses energy. And if you think of your muscles as protein, okay, if your body has to have protein, if you're not consuming protein, then your body will consume you. And that's what's happening when people even diet a lot of times. They're just not eating. So their bodies are eating themselves or they're not getting proper protein in. So it's really important to know and to be getting that protein in. And, you know, really getting to 60, 60, we just realized, whoa, that happened really quick. And I've got to take control of some things. And so I think those those decade markers when people hit like, yeah, 40s, I got to change. Fifties, gotta change. Sixties, gotta change. We all kind of hit those at the decades and For us personally, I would say sixty was that look back of like, man, that went fast. We got twenty, thirty really good years, depending on what we do right now. speaker-0: Yeah. So if muscles are the energy of the s I mean the the engine and we're feeding that engine the right food and the the engine is doing well and the muscles all of a sudden it creates a better lifestyle, you know. So a lot of times we think that you know, maybe a degradation in our life is because of age, right? We want to say it's chronologically I'm sixty-two, I'm sixty-seven, I'm seventy-two. And because of those chronological numbers to start popping into our brain, therefore I must get weaker and weakness weakness is not or an age related thing it's literally just you know pr maybe giving up or however you want to c say it but just not being you know you always say move it or lose it or no how you say it you you have a use it or speaker-1: Use it. speaker-0: you yeah you say you have a line you always say yeah a lot of lines speaker-1: Mind. speaker-0: yeah I know you have a lot of good one or you know good one liners you're really good actually there you just said one last night medicator yeah yeah yeah speaker-1: Medicator educator If we don't get educated, we're gonna have to be medicated. Because we don't know any different. Those are powerful speaker-0: statements and it's a good way to succinctly say things. So really age is not an indicator of where our weakness is going to come from. It's really just that's almost culturally in our heads where we should as we get older, 60s, 70s, into 80s, we should our bodies are totally capable of keep moving. speaker-1: Yeah. We've we've we've definitely been programmed to believe that, I'm just getting older. And I almost have really have gotten opposed to when people just kind of even joke about that because we accept it as truth and our bodies go, okay, well, I guess I'm getting older and we have a lot more power than we think we do. And I guess that's why I get excited about what I get to share is because it's their empowerment. And if you Believe the lie, you die. speaker-0: Right. Well, years ago we did a river trip with the whole family and it was a real eye opener to me. We were on the side slopes of the river, the Missouri. Is it the Missouri we're on? Yeah. Yep. And I remember where I was doing the old man crawl down the sides and I realized my legs and everything were w I was really heavy at the time. And I just I that was such an eye opener to me. I'm like, my gosh, I'm doing the old man crawl at forty two, you know, or whatever, forty three years old. Yeah. And I remember just really being scared by that. And it got kind of got me on this journey of, okay, I gotta turn this around. And you know, when you start exercising and increasing your muscle mass, you take care of fall prevention. You know, w I we know somebody in our lives that when they walk, they just take literally two or three inches at a time. You know, it's because they don't trust themselves. The weakness is there. And so fall prevention, you know, all the you know, all the different things that we just take for granted on how we move, you know, those are just big factors as you get older and all that's related to you know, your muscle activity, the strength, all those kind of things. speaker-1: We also are really in a sedentary lifestyle. I mean, we have so many amazing modern conveniences that used to require a lot of movement. I mean, as a kid, we had to get up just to change the channel on the TV. Now you don't have to get up for any of that stuff. you know, you've got a little machine that'll go around and vacuum your house for you. You I I actually was watching a lawn mower the other day that was just automatically it was like a little what do they call those little roombas mowing the grass. So a lot of just our basic things that required movement. I mean, in the day they were hauling water. They were doing all kinds of physical activity. And now we're sedentary in so many different ways. So we're losing a lot more than we think we are because it's just part of our natural color. speaker-0: Well years ago, we read a book called The Comfort Crisis, if you remember. And you know, maybe talk about that book just real briefly, just what was the premise of it? It's basically what you just said. speaker-1: Well, the comfort crisis is that we have so much comfort that we're really destroying ourselves with it because we don't have to be challenged in any area. We don't want any sort of pain. So we'll take a pill. We don't want any sort of anything that'll erupt in r interrupt our what we've perceived as the good life, the easy life. The I don't have to do anything. I just keep hitting my dopamine rush with, you know. Food or whatever. Yeah. And so speaker-0: So what's you know, let's talk about a myth. The myth that I'm too old to exercise or work out. I think that's a myth and I think it's common because you and I go to the club and I would say there's a larger majority, I want to say 80 to 85 percent of the people there, and they're young people trying to look good and in their clothes or whatever their goal is in terms of their workouts. I don't see a lot of folks. you are in some classes with some gals that I think are older, right? But you when I look around the club, everybody's in that twenties, thirties, forties, working out. They're big muscles, they're kind of muscle heads. That guy that's what I call it. But you don't see a lot of guys, you know, our age, you know, working out. And and I think it's because we think it's a young man's game when that's not true. The myth is you can make exercise a part of your life thor your entire life. speaker-1: Right. And I guess I would have to challenge that. And I think it's the time of day that you go because I go have gone earlier in the day or in at noontime. There's senior classes and when I started a strength training class, I'm like I'm the youngest one in here. And I'm watching these older women who they look great, they're they're rocking out the weights. And I it was so encouraging to me because as a person that's getting older and you look ahead of yourself, it's discouraging. You're like, is that what I got to look forward to? So I would say I've been very inspired and encouraged by some of the older women that are in my class that are still strong, still active, still sharp. And so I know it's possible. speaker-0: One hundred percent. But I do think there's something to what I'm saying in the sense of you know if we took a hundred old older folks, I betcha eight to ten of are working out is all ninety percent. speaker-1: No, I'm sure that's probably true. I and and probably by the time Yeah, I'm sure that's speaker-0: And the myth is I can't build muscle. Right. You know, I'm just gonna be who I am, you know, an old guy that or old woman, you know, that has lost maybe their muscle strength. speaker-1: I don't even know if it's a myth as much as it is, it's not we're so programmed for instant gratification that it's hard to like I used to think, well, which workout was it that got me in shape? Well, it's all of them. It's the layer of them. It's like which food is it that made me sick? Which is it? And it's the compilation of our habits. And I'm reading a book that's so fascinating. It's called How to Outwit the Devil. So it was written Over a hundred and almost a hundred and twenty years ago, and he was interviewing the devil, kind of like the Paul Harvey. If I was the devil, I would do this. And he was already projecting that when we start overeating and messing with our digestion, we can't think properly. And when we can't think properly, we don't recognize some things. And he was talking about. Hypnotic rhythms, which are really our habits and patterns. And once you get in this hypnotic rhythm, it's the hypnotic rhythms that create who we are. We are a compilation of our habits. And if you don't break some of those habits, it's just really easy to flow in that hypnotic rhythm. speaker-0: Right. So this show we try to talk about metabolic health a lot. So let's return to that subject real quick in in relation to muscles. So what would your be your view of the relationship and maybe talk more succinctly about the relationship between the muscles and glu handling glucose and their your metabolic health? How I mean we're we're all about you know creating a protocol with unicity with the T's and the drinks and the fibers and the balances and proper proteins and fat. All those kind of things we've talked about, you know, those are all encouraging things, but there's a this missing piece of muscle and exercise are are really critical. Maybe talked more about speaker-1: Sure. Are we going to talk about the problem? Have we done that? Okay. so would we understand it it's kind of cool when you start putting dots together, they all start connecting. But when we know that our muscle is what burns 80% of our fuel consumption that we take in, it would be no different than me parking my car in the garage. And every day I go in and I put more fuel in it, but I never take the car out of the garage. So what happens when I go in there and I add more fuel in it? It starts slopping all over the place. And now it's inflamed. It's a potential hazard because it could cause a fire in no time flat flat. the other thing is to just get more storage. So we are in storage and damage mode if we are not using these muscles to use the fuel that we're we're doing, because we're in an environment of overfueling. If you're underusing it, then you are in a in a bad place. Does that make sense? Yeah. That answers your question. speaker-0: You know, they're one of the primary users of glucose. So if you speaker-1: So if we're losing muscle at the age of thirty and we're have less and less muscle, then if we're not if we're still using lots and lots of fuel, that explains why you see s ninety three percent of the population metabolically unhealthy. We see it in belly fat, skin tags, lethargy, cravings in crashes, sleep apnea, snoring, acid reflux. All of those things are connected to that same route we are not. metabolically healthy, which means we are not handling fuel properly. speaker-0: Yeah, in my twenties in college, especially I can remember I'd go and eat three or four bagels because yeah, at the college as a basketball player, I'm burning three or four thousand calories in a practice and you know, whatever you're doing. And I just felt like I could eat whatever I want. And I carried on for a lot of years. And I think those again, those habitual rhythms that you're talking about, are powerful things that you don't realize, something changed. I'm forty-six now, I can't do what I speaker-1: Right. speaker-0: What the heck you do it? And and I think, you know, again, we continue on without produce you know, keeping the muscles moving, keeping them active, and we keep eating the same because we could get away with it at one point. Again, that will catch up to you. Right. And you have to notice it, be aware of it, and s make a change. And a lot of times those changes are very little. speaker-1: You know, and and people get intimidated by the gym. And I just wanna say it's not having to go to the gym. I call it exercise snacks. If even just throughout the day you can take a 10 minute walk, we seem to think if I can't work out hard for an hour, it's not worth it. That is not true. Getting up and moving, just doing calf muscles. They say that your calf muscles are like your second heart because they're pumping blood from the top of your body to the bottom of your body. You can do a lot of, you know. Calf muscles, calf raises, and they don't get as tired as some of the other muscles. So just getting up from a meal and doing calf raises gets that glucose into the muscles, circulating throughout the body, can bring that blood sugar down. So lots of little things that I would encourage people, if they've not been exercisers before, don't get overwhelmed with big things. Do a lot of little things to start with. speaker-0: Yeah, and you know, so let's just talk about that. What's some of the best exercises that can be part of our lifestyle at the club, out in life, whatever. we we used to we do it, we still do it. I think we park the farthest sometimes the farthest possible way from the grocery store door. You know, you think of lifestyle. Those are you can you can create some lifestyle changes without actually going to the club, but walking is huge, right? You love to walk. I don't enjoy I enjoy walking because I don't understand the purpose of it. So it's in my head as a as a Sure. Yeah, like what are we doing? This is so important. Just go in a circle and end up at the house. So that's me making a rant. You know, I'm just being truthful. speaker-1: And for me, I'm hearing my little muscles going speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm still stuck on I gotta play a basketball game and win. Right. I gotta play a game and win. I gotta beat them at this. And that's in my head. So that's got you know, but I just know that walking's a big one. you know, I was at the club last night, I was doing the bike and I did s I did some hanging where I just hang from a you know, they say if you can hang for two minutes, your physical upper body is really in a good situation. I can't hang two minutes, you know. I I'm about a minute or just a minute I gotta stop and then do it again, but I'll build up to two minutes. So you know those those seem like dumb things to focus on, but those are basics, right? Squats, hanging, get on the bike, do walk. Walking is a huge one, I would think, for everybody can do walking. speaker-1: Yeah, and yeah, and if you can't, I mean, even doing like when I'm driving a lot of times it sounds stupid, but I I can go from I'll look at a reflector pole and I'll squeeze my muscles tight just for a a reflector pole and then relax. For a flector pole. You do that for five miles. Let me tell you, the next day you're gonna know you did something. So there's a lot of little things that we can do. Even sitting in a chair and just lifting up and putting some pressure on your your joints and your muscles and those sorts of things engages those muscles. So lots of little things. speaker-0: Yeah, and another one is to consider is we don't really think about it much. I think as we get older we think about it, but balance. we've been learning lately that the ability to stand on one foot for just ten seconds, most people can't even do that. You know, so the balance is a really huge indicator of where you're at on your muscle strength and the ability to control your muscles. speaker-1: Yeah, and because because we l lose that balance. But if you can if you can layer some of your habits, like every time you're washing dishes, stand on one foot. I'll sometimes just be blow drying my hair and try to stand on on one foot. Those things are helping your balance, believe it or not. the other thing that's messing with our balance a lot of times is the medications that we get put on. So the side effects a lot of times are dizziness, unst unstability. I know for the statins are one of those. Your joints hurt and people are out of balance. So it just seems silly that we're trying to keep you from having a heart attack, but you possibly are gonna, you know, fall or digestive issues. All of those things are the side effects of certain medications. And so people don't feel stable. speaker-0: Right. So our encouragement today is that you really gotta see muscle as the kind of the organ of longevity. It is your best friend. And if you ignoring that piece, if as you've taken from the show, if I just eat this and and take on this protocol, intermittent fasting and you know, just do just those things, which are great things, i I think there's other pieces of the pie you're missing. I always think of things as a pie and each thing is a slice. So a slice would be nutrition. And another slice would be intermittent fasting. And another slice would be the exercise part of our lives in terms of keep moving and having having the confidence and the independence and the ability to travel and and you know whatever comes from having a good good muscles and good ability to move and have balance and walk and not fall and get injured and you know all those kind of things. There's a lot of fruit from really adding exercise to. Our life. So it that's the encouragement from this. And I hope you can get catch that how important this is. we're gonna close off here with our ev the protocol we do every time. Kathy's gonna go through that. We are gonna talk about the problem and the solution, we do that every week on purpose because. just kathy has a calling on her life and and even mine and I want to encourage people to have have the best life possible. So the the problem is easy to understand in some ways, but we need to go over it all the time. So up to you Kat. speaker-1: Okay, we got the problem. The problem is the insulin resistance in the middle of the wheel. And on the outside of the wheel, you're gonna see fatty liver, type 2 diabetes, sarcop sarcopenia, heart disease, stroke, migraine, arthritis, PCOS, erectile dysfunction, high blood pressure. So we're just named it different things that's coming from the same root. But what we're understanding now is insulin resistance is when because we're overfueling, and when we fuel, insulin's job is the electrician. It has to get power throughout our whole house, which is fine. Insulin does an amazing job at that. Pancreas is going to make a little bit of insulin. But because we've added so many carbohydrates and sugars in our drinks and in our foods over the last few decades, that has gone. Through the roof. Well, when we have that extra fuel, insulin's like, my gosh, what am I going to do with all this excess fuel? So pancreas is like, well, let's just make some more. So we have more and more insulin. Insulin's in this panic of like, I got to put this energy somewhere because the cells now are saying, we're full. We can't take on any more energy. That's what insulin resistance is. So now the Insulin is going rogue, it's gonna put it in your liver, it's gonna put it in your belly fat, it's gonna start growing skin tags out because it's a growth hormone. So all of these symptoms that I just listed, or all of these chronic illnesses that I ish that I listed are actually the root cause is insulin resistance. But because our medical field only studies pharmaceuticals to manage your symptoms, they don't study the lifestyle habits and they don't study and understand. what the insulin is doing. And so if we can bring that insulin down, insulin is low, fat can go, the body can heal itself. So that to me is a beautiful thing. It's very empowering. And so yeah, that's it. speaker-0: It's good. Well, it's good. we've as we've talked about it today, exercise is a big part of controlling that insulin and the glucose. And it's speaker-1: Absolutely. It's a huge piece of the public. speaker-0: not even about your diet and worrying about my next meal or whatever. It's just and it doesn't take much. It's from what I've read, two to three times a week, ten minutes makes a huge difference for most people, believe it or not. speaker-1: A 10 minute walk after five to ten minute walk after a meal is gonna lower your glucose more than any metformin ever will. The other thing that's gonna lower your glucose, this is probably done by design by the food companies, is we take all the fiber out of the food. Fiber keeps that blood sugar lower. So if we're eating a lot of processed foods, the fiber's been taken out. So there's really nothing to keep you from sat like the fibers also keeps you satisfied. So you'll stop eating when you're full. Well, you're never full because you don't have the fiber. And if you're not getting the protein and the fats in, those are also very satisfying. So we really encourage you to, when you do eat, focus on protein. That's gonna protect your muscle. Proke focus on your fiber. That's gonna keep your blood sugar from spiking. And those healthy fats because your brain is fat, your body needs healthy fats and we've demonized fats and we're eating vegetable oil 'cause it sounds healthier, but it's just these seed oils that your body can't even process. speaker-0: Right. No, one hundred percent. So let's talk about the solution. speaker-1: The solution is so in the 1980s, it was actually a Rexol drug that saw the writing on the wall for high blood pressure. Type 2 diabetes was on the rise because of the food industry was changing so much. And they came out with a simple little protocol that has two little T's and a fiber. So when they added these back in, it's a nutraceutical, it's been have 20 different clinical studies. Cleveland Clinic studied it, knowing that it will bring your blood sugars down, could help with heart health, could help with cholesterol, all of those things. So by simply drinking a little tea when you're not eating, you're drinking this. And then there's the balance. And this is a fiber packet. It's seven different soluble, insoluble fibers. You mix it up, it gets kind of thick like a gel. You, you Drink it before your largest meal. That's gonna keep those blood sugars level. Again, it's gonna do more than metformin ever could. And it's actually healing your gut, not destroying your gut. And so these little protocols have have reversed type two diabetes for people. They tell you it's man you can manage it, but you can never reverse it. That's not true. I know people that have reversed it. People that have been able to get their their cholesterol levels balanced out so they're at a healthy level, high blood pressure comes down, neuropathy, brain fog, all of these things start clearing up because the inflammation is gone. And so when you have such a easy nutraceutical, but it doesn't make money. For the pharmaceuticals, so the doctors don't know about it, but it is in the physician's desk reference. So if you go in and talk to your doctor, hey, I want to do this natural protocol, and they might poo-poo it, but ask them to look it up. And then they can't deny that, yeah, it does have some it has some really great pseudocal effects, but it's not pharma because anything that's made pharmaceutical has to be a synthetic. And that's why we get so many of the side effects, 'cause your body can't handle the synthetic piece of of it. So speaker-0: Yeah, I heard it said about new unicity in the drinks and the teas and the fibers, is if you can eat a salad, you can tolerate these. speaker-1: yeah. Yeah. And you know, the cool thing is again, it's goes to the root of your system. So people that have had IBS that can't leave the house without packing diapers, literally, are been able to take this and have reversed their IBS, constipation, all of those things. Now, if your pipe system has been messed up for years, like most of us have because of medications, poor diet, all of those things. It's going to take a little bit of time. So if you put Draino down a plot drain, you might get some bubbling and gases and smelling. And some people notice some of that when they go on this protocol, but that's that's a good sign it's working. So it sometimes takes a little bit more time, maybe go into a little bit slower. you know, everybody's bodies are a little bit different. And that's why we say this isn't a weight loss protocol, it is a metabolic health. But if your metabolic health is off, you probably are gaining weight. And so that will come off as well. But I've been on the protocol for about 18 months. I'm not losing weight, but I'm at a a good weight that I'm happy to be at. I have great energy. My my gut health is so much better. And and I'll probably be on it for life as a as a preventative thing. I don't want all this other stuff, and this is gonna prevent it. Do you have to be on it for life? Absolutely not, but it's a great tool to help you get your lifestyle in habit in in place. speaker-0: Yeah, and as we we s in our previous show we talked about Going into the holidays, and you know, again, it's just to re-emphasize again, a lot of people are afraid of what's coming in terms of Thanksgiving dinner, and and they know the 10 pounds they put on between Thanksgiving and Christmas. And you roughly have 90 days to the end of the year. And this is a good time to kind of get a hold of Kathy, and the contact information will be in the description for any way you can you want to get a hold of her. but if you want to get a hold of her or myself, message me and I can take care of you as well. But you really have about 90 days left. You're getting heading into the holidays, there's gonna be Tons and tons of opportunities to kinda kind of mess up your metabolic health. speaker-1: It's that hypnotic rhythm that we're in and we see it coming and we're like, uh-oh, here we go. And if you want to break that hypnotic rhythm, we've got the tools for you to break it. And it doesn't have to be hard, it doesn't have to be overwhelming, it doesn't have to be intimidating. And that's what I love about this. Being in the weight loss industry for a lot of years, it it took a lot of measuring, counting calories, you know, magic food. And this to me is a much simpler way. You get back to eating your whole foods, eliminating the processed foods and just keeping it simple and it feels good. The feel speaker-0: Yeah. So it's called speaker-1: great system. speaker-0: So as we close the show out, we just thank you again for coming. Please share and subscribe, like, do all the things you can on every platform. This is goes out to roughly 32 platforms LinkedIn, Rub, Rumble, Yahoo, not Yahoo, YouTube, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple. It just goes everywhere. So you can find it on your favorite podcasting location. You can watch it by video. It goes literally everywhere. So please subscribe and like, watch the show. But as we end, I want to encourage You that you know by exercises, you're investing in your future. You know, this is not about looking younger, and a lot of times you can feel better and have more confidence if you look better, feel better with you know your exercise routine, but it's about being capable. It's the idea that you're energized for life, that you're able to you know do the very things on a daily basis with confidence, and that's a huge positive thing to have a great mindset. And so you're investing in your future health and your future just ability to live a great life. If you add exercise to your life and I encourage you with that. So as we close today, we've given you a number of different things to think about, but also look reach out to Kathy if you're interested in the Unicity Protocol and getting started. You have roughly 90 days at the end of the year to help you get through the holidays, and I think you should take advantage of that and you won't regret it. So again, thanks for joining us in the show. It's always so fun. And and I think we're gonna be off next week because we're gonna be traveling so. We'll be thinking about you and hoping you're doing well. So take care and we'll see you soon. Bye.