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Mac & Bone Hour Hour 2: Strengths & Weaknesses of Panthers Roster · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: One of the examples they used, and I won't give
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  Speaker 1: away the exact situation, but they were talking about a
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  Speaker 1: specific formational adjustment where they were trying to not have
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  Speaker 1: the coverage undressed. And it put them in a call
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  Speaker 1: that they felt they weren't really comfortable with, but it
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  Speaker 1: was the only answer they had based on what that
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  Speaker 1: formation looked like. And Devin Lloyd was kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: why are we doing it this way? And I think
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  Speaker 1: the thought was, well, we just kind of do it
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  Speaker 1: this way. So why do we do it this way? Like,
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you try to do it with a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of like a tweak on it? And so I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of come from the outside and
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  Speaker 1: he's the green dot player. He's like the main communicator
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  Speaker 1: for the defense already. And but I think he's done
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  Speaker 1: the pairing of him and the defensive staff. They've kind
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  Speaker 1: of troubleshot some of the things that they were doing
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  Speaker 1: before that maybe didn't make the most sense. And he's
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  Speaker 1: been one that's been driving some of that stuff, which
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  Speaker 1: is a year one player in the defense, I think
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  Speaker 1: is cool.
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  Speaker 2: That is Robert Mays, the Athletic Football Show, with a
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  Speaker 2: very interesting story, Bone, from when he visited Panther Camp
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  Speaker 2: back towards the start of training camp, which is a
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  Speaker 2: long time ago. It was a long camp for the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: It's been 84 years. That's what it feels like. But
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  Speaker 2: that just speaks to the intelligence of Devin Lloyd, an
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  Speaker 2: inside linebacker, him giving input on, hey, have you thought
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  Speaker 2: about doing it this way around here? and the Panthers
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff listening to him, right? Not everybody will probably
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  Speaker 2: get that benefit where they can critique the way something
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  Speaker 2: has been done here and the coaches actually listen. But
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  Speaker 2: you get the feeling he is that sort of guy,
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  Speaker 2: the true coach on the field. And that is the
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  Speaker 2: cool thing about Okereke coming in. is that he is
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  Speaker 2: also kind of that sort of guy. Yeah, at 30,
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  Speaker 2: I know Joe Person was on yesterday and said some
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  Speaker 2: of the New York guys he talked to in the
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  Speaker 2: media said, yeah, it felt like he lost a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a step, still made a lot of plays.
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  Speaker 2: But I know this, Bone, you've got two sharp cookies
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  Speaker 2: in the middle there mentally at linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: But even if he's lost a little bit, he's not
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  Speaker 3: coming in here to be the Pro Bowl... all-pro top
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  Speaker 3: 100 player. We wish he was, but Devin Lloyd has that.
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  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd, Maggie, Bobby misses a step or two. You
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  Speaker 3: would think that Devin Lloyd can make up for a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that as well, and the depth is
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  Speaker 3: much better. It's been a great week, I think, for
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  Speaker 3: the linebacker spot for the Panthers, and the story there
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  Speaker 3: about Lloyd and them listening to Lloyd, there is something
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  Speaker 3: to be said about A willingness of a staff and
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  Speaker 3: a team to adapt to what the players or what
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  Speaker 3: the team needs, whether it's Dave Canales' play calling and
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  Speaker 3: knowing what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Remember with Rico last year? Rico last year. When Rico said,
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  Speaker 2: run this, and we got a big play out of it.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a staff.
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  Speaker 3: That's set in their ways and isn't willing to adjust
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  Speaker 3: based off of what they feel or what the players feel.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. I like that story, so that's good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think Belichick Mack and the NFL would be
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  Speaker 3: willing to adjust all the time based off what the
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  Speaker 3: players say?
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  Speaker 2: NFL Bill? Someone says, Bill, why don't we do it
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  Speaker 2: this way? No, we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Tommy?
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  Speaker 2: Would he listen to Tommy? Oh, no. Oh, man. No
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  Speaker 2: Belichick shade today, Boney. It is his world, bro. It
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  Speaker 2: is his world. It is. That's why I said NFL Bill.
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  Speaker 2: College Bill. You think College Bill's the genius now. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: College Bill's the genius. All right. Let's talk Panthers roster,
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  Speaker 2: shall we? We're going to talk some ACC football coming up.
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  Speaker 2: um uh in uh in about i don't know 15
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  Speaker 2: minutes or so 20 minutes or so so stay tuned
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  Speaker 2: for that we got what the bleep coming up we'll
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  Speaker 2: have a little fun with some wacky what the bleep
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  Speaker 2: stories at 7 45 but let's talk about this panther
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  Speaker 2: roster it's set for now right they made the moves
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  Speaker 2: yesterday where okarake is added officially to the roster uh
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  Speaker 2: brady christiansen unfortunately with a hamstring injury has to go
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  Speaker 2: on ir has to be there for at least four
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  Speaker 2: weeks Also, the other move, Bone, is Corey Bullock brought
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  Speaker 2: in as a center slash guard, claimed off waivers from
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens, and Chandler Zavala is moved on. So at
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  Speaker 2: this point in time, Bone, when we look at the
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  Speaker 2: roster now that yesterday's activities are done, what let's start
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  Speaker 2: on the positive front and then we'll get to what
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  Speaker 2: position worries us. We want y'all to text in the
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  Speaker 2: good and the bad at once. What is the position
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  Speaker 2: group you feel like do we're really good there. And
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  Speaker 2: then what is the position group you look at and say,
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  Speaker 2: this could kill us. This, this, this could stress you out.
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  Speaker 2: What is what, what position group is the number one
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  Speaker 2: in your eyes in terms of confidence bone?
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  Speaker 3: There's two areas I feel really good about. Number one, um,
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  Speaker 3: is the wide receiver spot. T-Mac and Coker as the
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  Speaker 3: one and two. I know Coker didn't necessarily do a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot in the preseason, but I'm not too concerned
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  Speaker 3: about him. I like the versatility, Mac, and the progression
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  Speaker 3: of the things they can do with Jimmy Horn. We get, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: a question there, but Mechie can do some stuff there.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the high end of the wide receiver room,
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  Speaker 3: I think, is a really, really bright spot in this
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  Speaker 3: football team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right receiver room, and I would say the secondary I
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  Speaker 3: like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Those are two areas I like a lot. The secondary
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  Speaker 2: in general, you're saying. Yeah, counting everybody. You're not breaking
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  Speaker 2: it down to corner or safety. Corners and the safeties
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  Speaker 2: I feel good about. Okay. I was going to say
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  Speaker 2: cornerback is a position I feel good about. You took
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  Speaker 2: the whole secondary. I agree. I think it's a strong secondary.
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  Speaker 2: I especially love the corners. They did a half-hour Panther
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  Speaker 2: preview on the athletic football show. We just played the
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  Speaker 2: clip there. And they're very into the advanced metrics and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. And they were talking, Bone, about the Panthers'
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  Speaker 2: defense and how the pass rush is at or near
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  Speaker 2: the bottom in all the pass rush metrics. We knew that, right,
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  Speaker 2: last year? But the coverage numbers... are like double-digit spots higher.
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  Speaker 2: And they were saying that is an absolute tribute to J.C. Horn,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Jack, and everybody back there covering. Because when you
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  Speaker 2: get that sorry of a pass rush, you're not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be top 20 in coverage metrics. That is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to make you get torn apart at the back end.
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  Speaker 2: And those guys both, Bone, had great seasons, even with
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  Speaker 2: little to no pass rush up front. So I think
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  Speaker 2: those numbers really... put into, you know, they do a
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  Speaker 2: good job of explaining just how good that corner duo is.
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  Speaker 2: I think Shaw Smith Wade's a guy I went into
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  Speaker 2: camp doubting. And my God, if he didn't just send
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  Speaker 2: Corey Thornton to the practice squad, personally, I think Willie's
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  Speaker 2: a guy, Bone, that, you know, you saw it in
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  Speaker 2: the game in Canton. He'll make a play one minute.
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  Speaker 2: He'll probably bite on a double move the next. I
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  Speaker 2: do think there'll be a little bit of that. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think he's a talented corner with all kind
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  Speaker 2: of confidence, a.k.a. the blanket. And I like the corner group.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll say corner group specifically. As far as wide receiver,
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  Speaker 2: I'd feel better, no duh, if Brazel was a part
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  Speaker 2: of this. Xavier Lee Gett exclusively being the No. 3
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  Speaker 2: guy does have, you know what I mean? Because how
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  Speaker 2: many three wide receiver sets do we play? Now, we
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  Speaker 2: kept five tight ends. So maybe, you know, I know
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  Speaker 2: that Mitchell Evans was talking about, you know, you might
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  Speaker 2: see more of the two, three tight end stuff like
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  Speaker 2: the Rams did last year. So maybe they'll do more
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  Speaker 2: of that. But having, you know, a third receiver that's
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  Speaker 2: going to play a lot as XL still is a
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  Speaker 2: question mark, is a little bit unnerving.
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  Speaker 3: Matt, would you have any interest in Jalen Hyatt off
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  Speaker 3: the Giants practice squad, or do you think that's a no-go?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of another Tennessee guy. Tillman got cut, too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee guys are not having a very— now, Hyatt's still with
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  Speaker 3: the Giants, but yeah, he has been a complete bust.
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  Speaker 3: I saw it yesterday, and I thought, would they just
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  Speaker 3: replace one Tennessee guy with another? But Hyatt has not.
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  Speaker 2: Done anything hard. This is one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 2: we were worried about Brazel coming in. It's just Heupel
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  Speaker 2: produces the way they play that offense, gets those guys
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  Speaker 2: into space, and it hasn't translated to the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully it will with Brazel. Hyatt played eight games last year.
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  Speaker 3: He had 35 yards receiving. Ask Flounder about Hyatt. Flounder
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  Speaker 3: will lose his mind if you ask him about him.
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  Speaker 2: He had 16 games played in 2024, Mac. 62 yards receiving.
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  Speaker 2: He appeared in 16 games and had eight catches. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: Although his rookie numbers weren't that terrible. He had 373 yards,
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  Speaker 3: all things considered. But it's just not man-o-man.
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  Speaker 2: This texter says, could somebody tell me why we think
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  Speaker 2: Coker is a good No. 2 wide receiver? Dude was
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  Speaker 2: practically in the witness protection program all preseason. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe because we watched the playoff game last year? Maybe
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  Speaker 2: because we watched him when he got healthy, got fit
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  Speaker 2: and got healthy last year.
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  Speaker 3: We know that he and Bryce have a chemistry, and
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  Speaker 3: I think once the games get real, I think that'll
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  Speaker 3: come back to earth. Yeah, it's notable that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: do a lot, but there's a lot of things to
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  Speaker 3: worry about. I'm not worried about Jalen Coker right now.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of things to worry about in general. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not either. But the point stands. It has been a
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  Speaker 3: very quiet preseason from him. But I watched him do it, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Big plays and big games against the Rams and the
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  Speaker 2: Bucs in the regular season. A huge mammoth playoff game
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  Speaker 2: against the Rams. I'm sorry, man. I'm going to lean
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  Speaker 2: on a guy that did it in those games versus
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  Speaker 2: a guy who, when the starting offense played one or
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  Speaker 2: two drives— Had a catch for three yards. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? Yes. I'm going to put the weight
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  Speaker 2: to the meaningful stuff. Can I give you the area of.
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  Speaker 3: Weakness is the word, but an unknown area, Mac? That's
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  Speaker 3: got to be the tight end spot, right? There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of dudes. There's some pass there to success. Guys
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  Speaker 3: that can do some stuff. We just don't know yet
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  Speaker 3: about Waller. uh mitchell evans does he make a leap
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  Speaker 3: we don't know that yet uh there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: unknowns there in that room right now.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the tight ends are all right yeah
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  Speaker 2: you know what i mean but like is i our
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  Speaker 2: worst position because that'd be a good position to be
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  Speaker 2: in i definitely think the backup tackle situation bone is
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  Speaker 2: scary I don't know if I'm cheating because I'm not
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  Speaker 2: including the starters, but heck, I'll even throw Freeling in, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: who will have to learn some lessons on the job.
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  Speaker 2: With both our starting tackles out, could you say tackle
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  Speaker 2: is a position we should worry about the most? And
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  Speaker 2: what about interior? Especially with the unknown of the guys
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  Speaker 2: coming back, too. That's got to be thrown in there.
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  Speaker 2: We know that they're out for the first four weeks.
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  Speaker 2: What about the interior D-line? You have Derrick Brown. You
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  Speaker 2: have Bobby Brown, who I think is a good player.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he had a great year last year,
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  Speaker 2: but I think he's a good player. And then you
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  Speaker 2: have second-year player Cam Jackson, rookie Lee Hunter, undrafted rookie
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Hall, and then T. Ra Edwards from the Chargers,
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  Speaker 2: who has not played a snap in the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: That's a position around Derrick Brown that is a little concerning, right?
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  Speaker 2: Gotta be.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's so inexperienced around him. Yeah, no, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Can we address something, Mac, here that started out as
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  Speaker 3: a little humorous thing here? And I think, as always,
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  Speaker 3: people go one step too far. There is a group
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  Speaker 3: of people out there, including this guy here. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to mention the other guy because we don't
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  Speaker 3: need to mention Bob's name as much as we do.
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  Speaker 2: There's another guy here. What's his name here? Dog48. Dog48.
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  Speaker 3: Who legitimately thinks that Haynes King should be the starting
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  Speaker 3: quarterback for this team based off the Hall of Fame game.
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  Speaker 2: And this is not like, ha-ha, ha-ha-ha.
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  Speaker 3: There are people out there that legitimately think, Mac, Haynes
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  Speaker 3: King should be starting right away.
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  Speaker 2: Slow down, Tiger. He was undrafted. He had a great,
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  Speaker 2: great game. Slow that Tiger. Slow that Tiger. How about
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  Speaker 2: y'all do the Kenny Pickett versus Haynes King thing first?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying the team is even thinking about that
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  Speaker 2: yet because I don't think they are, Bone. But how
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  Speaker 2: about you set your eyes on the number two? That
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  Speaker 2: would be like rooting for a race car driver in
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  Speaker 2: third place and talking about him taking the lead. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Worry about Kenny Pickett. Haynes King Nation. Your rival right
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  Speaker 2: now is Kenny Pickett. It's not Bryce Young, y'all. Come on, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: What are y'all doing to poor Haynes King?
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  Speaker 3: There are certain people that just fall in love with
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  Speaker 3: not the backup quarterback, but the guy behind the backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Poor Kenny Pickett. The backup quarterback is usually the most
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  Speaker 2: popular guy in town. Not here. Not here. It's the
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  Speaker 2: third string guy. It's the backup's backup. Not with Dog
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  Speaker 2: 48 and B-Swap. Oh, Lord. All right, Seven. And now
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  Speaker 2: we see why, Bone, maybe they didn't go out and
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  Speaker 2: get a more high-profile backup. Yeah. Because the fans would
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  Speaker 2: be all over it. All right. 704-570-9610. Here's another guy.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback worries me the most. Cajun Andy. I just can't imagine, honestly. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if I hooked you up to a polygraph, Cajun Andy,
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  Speaker 2: are you passing? Like, quarterback's your biggest worry? I'm not saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I've been very measured and very honest
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  Speaker 2: about Bryce Young. He has improved each year he's been here.
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  Speaker 2: He was extremely efficient throwing the deep ball. He was
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  Speaker 2: really good under pressure. The metrics of him performing when
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  Speaker 2: pressure bone was really good. He was really good in
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  Speaker 2: pressure situations late in games, but he was not good
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  Speaker 2: thrown over the intermediate, and his start to the seasons
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  Speaker 2: have been bad, and his consistency has been bad. But, like, really,
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  Speaker 2: that's a bigger concern than tackle?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: That's a bigger concern than interior D-line? I just think
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  Speaker 2: that's freaking crazy talk, man. That can't be honest, is it?
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  Speaker 3: Bryce can't even be remotely successful if the offensive line
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  Speaker 3: completely breaks down in front of him.
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  Speaker 2: We know that.
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  Speaker 3: So for Bryce to be successful, the offensive line has
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  Speaker 3: to give him a chance to be successful. We're wanting
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Mack to take more chances down the field and
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  Speaker 3: open things up. Well, if he doesn't have enough time,
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  Speaker 3: how can that ever be a thing to happen, right?
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  Speaker 3: Bryce needs time to throw the ball down the field, man.
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  Speaker 2: I just think Bryce is around, like last year was
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  Speaker 2: around the 20th best quarterback in the league. Are we
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  Speaker 2: a good enough roster to where the position that is
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  Speaker 2: like 20th in the league is the biggest worry? Now,
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  Speaker 2: this texter says, Mac, it's not like Bryce is.
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  Speaker 2: Is worse at his job than maybe the guys other
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  Speaker 2: than Derrick Brown at interior D-line. But it's the most
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  Speaker 2: important position on the field. It carries way more weight
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  Speaker 2: in how you perform in a game. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. I just think it's... I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels lazy to me. If you're a Panther fan,
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  Speaker 2: I understand it's all about the quarterback. So I guess
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  Speaker 2: I get that. It just feels lazy when we talk
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  Speaker 2: about weak spots on the roster and here come the
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  Speaker 2: Bryce haters.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Again, I'm not mentioning names,
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  Speaker 3: but some people, it's all they can talk about. The
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  Speaker 3: only verbal bullet in the chamber or text bullet in
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  Speaker 3: the chamber, it's all they can talk about is Bryce.
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  Speaker 3: There's no other thing they can talk about. They wake
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  Speaker 3: up Thinking Bryce Young. They go to bed thinking Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 3: They eat breakfast. They have a bowl of Bryce's. They
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  Speaker 3: eat dinner. They order a platter of Bryce. They get
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: in the shower. They're thinking about Bryce. They drive their car.
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  Speaker 3: They're thinking about Bryce. They have a moment in the boudoir.
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  Speaker 3: They're thinking about Bryce. They cannot stop thinking about Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 3: It consumes their every waking moment.
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  Speaker 2: Am I wrong? How about the guy that has texted
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  Speaker 2: like on four different days asking the question, when will
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Haynes King be the starting? That's what I'm saying. At
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  Speaker 2: least he's persistent.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think these guys are joking. I thought
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  Speaker 3: at first some guys were joking. Now I'm at the
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  Speaker 3: point where, no, these guys really are the Haynes King truthers.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm a Haynes King fan. But guys, settle down.
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  Speaker 2: Slow down.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody that enters the quarterback room, they fall in love with.
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  Speaker 3: That's not Bryce Young. Look at Bagel Guy. There's one.
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  Speaker 2: He says, Mac, you haven't been honest about Bryce. You coddle.
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  Speaker 2: That's his favorite word. You coddle Bryce. What about Barnwell's
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  Speaker 2: advanced stats on Bryce? So let me get this straight,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Bagel Guy. When I give you the advanced numbers and
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: categories where Bryce was really good at, you poo-poo it. right?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: You don't care about it. But Bill Barnwell gives these
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: other advanced stats and those you care about. It's cherry picking.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: It's what you're doing is cherry picking. I'm trying to
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: be honest about Bryce Young. I have said he has
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: not done enough to get a contract. The Panthers are
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: playing it the right way. But again, to act like
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: he is worse at his job than are like, that
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: you're more worried that he's going to play bad than
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you are that Monroe Freeling might struggle or that we're
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: one injury away from Stone Forsyth or Albert Reese, an
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: undrafted rookie. Like, I just think it's disingenuous, man. And again,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it's just that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: you don't know about these other positions. I just, there's
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: an obsession. With Bryce Young. And I get it. He's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: our quarterback. But, like, my God, he's far from the
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: worst quarterback we've had here. We've had some complete dog-due
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: quarterback play in this town. We had a guy that
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: was babysitting play once. Changing diapers. What was our man's name?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Brian St.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Pierre.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: There you go. How did I forget you, Brian St. Pierre?
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Went from changing diapers to dropping bombs to David Geddes
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: over top the Ravens secondary. Cleaning bombs to dropping bombs.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So anyway. That's his new book that's coming out. But
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: y'all fired up, man. Y'all get me fired up. Guess what, Matt?
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: We'll probably have the same talk tomorrow because it never ends.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: There you go, guy.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: That's in my head now when you did that one
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: day a couple weeks ago. When we come back, Billy Embody, Mac,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: does a lot of work covering SMU, but he also
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: does a three times a week ACC podcast. He's going
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: to recap week zero, look ahead to week one. Billy
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Embody's next on Sports Radio 92.7.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNT. Mac and Bone with you. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: feel confident, but we had a texter, Bone, that said,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: do you ever get the feeling, Mac, that any Panthers-related topic,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: regardless of what it is, you could be talking about
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: best uniform combos, could eventually... Dissolve into a Bryce bashing
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: on the text line segment. Why does Bryce Young get
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to wear the uniform? He's too short. That uniform won't
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: look good on him. He doesn't tug his jersey in.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And I think you're right, sir. I do think at
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: any time a Panther topic could result into a Bryce
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Young debate.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I do appreciate the passion. I just got threatened by
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: a Haynes King fan that said... He thinks that Bryce
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: should start the season and then go from there. And
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I said, if you think Haynes King's starting a game
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: in 2026... That's crazy. He said he's going to screenshot that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh. Uh-oh. You've been screenshotted. Not a screenshot. I feel confident, though, Bone,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: in saying this conversation with our next guest will not
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: result in any Bryce Young slander. I do feel confident
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: because we get to talk college football, specifically ACC football.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Our next guest is one of the hosts of the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: all-access AM ACC podcast he also covers SMU in Dallas
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: for for on three and of course they're one of
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the favorites in the league this year he is Billy
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and body and he joins us here on the Mac
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and bone show Billy thank you for joining us man
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: what's going on how you doing Doing well, guys.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, and thank you for breaking up the Bryce
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Young argument today, the Tuesday edition. You've never been needed
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: more in this spot.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I do what I can.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: What did you think about the Tar Heels' win on,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, a team not too far away from you
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: in TCU that you probably got some knowledge of? But
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the Tar Heels get that win. I mean, we're all
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: sitting here. It wasn't just the national media that was
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: shocked by that. I mean, most of us locally were
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: not expecting Carolina to win that game and be the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: team that was not the mistake-laden team. What should we
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: think about this UNC team and Bill Belichick after that win?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I think one that just shows that game in Ireland
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: is something everybody should turn down. That game just gets
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: wild every year and somebody ends up on the wrong
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: side of it and it kind of.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Derails their season.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's TCU this year, but no, I think watching
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Bobby Petrino manage that offense with Billy Edwards was a
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: really big step in the right direction just for them.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I know it wasn't perfect.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It wasn't explosive and fireworks and things of that nature,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: but you could tell they were managing the game and
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: taking advantage of TCU's mistakes and their miscues as far
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: as managing the game, going for it on all those
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: fourth downs. They should have taken the points, obviously, looking
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: back on it, but for UNC to play the mature
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: football game, that was probably the unexpected side of this.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I thought maybe it would be kind of a wild
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: game if it would have ended up with UNC getting
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: the win, but you could tell they had a really
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: good plan going in defensively to adjust for what TCU
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: was going to do into that second, third, and fourth quarter.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: They made those adjustments, and and they were able to
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: take advantage of it and ride that to a win.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I think the job for Bill Belichick really just kind
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: of came down to him blocking out all the things
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: going on around him.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's all.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Those years of experience, but to have your guys be
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: able to settle in and play the brand of football
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: they did for the final three quarters said a lot
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: about the resolve, and I thought that last year– North
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Carolina just came up on the wrong end of things
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: with it, with a couple of games that you, you,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you thought they had and they ended up not. And, um,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: that's just kind of how the cookie crumbles sometimes, but, uh,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: for them to get that win, it was really big
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: for the ACC. Number one, big for the, big for
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: that program to, to kind of have something to, to
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: show for some of the work and changes being put
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: in place. And we'll see where it takes them. Their
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: schedule is, is, is, uh, is a pretty tough road.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: But I think that was a really good just kind
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: of feet wet. You get a bye week now, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: you can kind of reset from there.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Billy, what result was more surprising to you, the one
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: you're talking about where UNC gets a win or the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: fact that State came out and looked, NC State came
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: out and looked the way that they did? Not that
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: they lost, but how bad they looked in defeat.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was NC State. That was really disappointing, kind
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: of looking back on the offseason they had. You thought, okay, C.J.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Bailey's back, obviously a big piece there. They brought in
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: a couple pieces on the offensive line to shore that up.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: They got Duke Scott back. JoJo Trader, maybe a fresh
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: start from Miami. He turns things around. Vander Ploeg coming
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: in as a tight end that you've got to watch
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: in this offense.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: They'll figure it out, right?
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It's C.J.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Bailey.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: And maybe they will. That was not on the radar.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I thought that was a sign that in terms of
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: just matchup-wise, North Carolina State's going to have a lot
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: of problems creating separation this year because there was none
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: of that for C.J. Bailey's targets. C.J. Bailey kind of
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: looked timid from the start. It was really strange. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: that was a game that you could have avoided being
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: down certainly 17-0 at half by not throwing interception, but
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you could have been down 10-0, and maybe you managed
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: that and tried to figure out a way to reset,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: but instead you had to play from behind and kind
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: of going after it in a different way. So I
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: just thought the whole day for NC State was really
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: a major red flag, and you try not to overreact
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: for Week 0 stuff, but it just seemed like their
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: whole team struggled on the offensive side, in particular with
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: team speed. I thought the defense played well enough to win.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: They were putting some spots early that you were kind
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: of like, okay, the interception, that really put them on
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: a short field, and Virginia was able to take advantage
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: of it. But until they broke with that 23-play drive
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: in the late third quarter into the fourth, they played
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: well enough to win. They just got no help from
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: the offense. I do think it's a red flag. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: think it's a red flag as far as evaluation and
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: money spent as far as the skill positions around C.J. Bailey.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: They've been basically 8-4 for a decade, and I don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: know if they get to that this year. But again,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: try not to overreact after Week 0, but that was
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a really poor showing.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It does make you wonder if they spent a ton
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: of money to keep Bailey, how much did they have elsewhere?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: To bring in those replacements at weapons. Cause they lost
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: some big money, a bunch of big money weapons. Billy
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and body is with us. All access AM ACC podcast.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Now you cover SMU for on three. So there's certainly
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: in the mix to be the answer to this question,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: but I'll ask you, who do you think will be
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the second best team in the ACC when it's all
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: said and done SMU Louisville, Clemson, or the most named
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: ones in the summer? I think we got to throw
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Virginia into that mix now. Like, Who would be your
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: guess for No. 2 in the ACC this year?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, SMU, Virginia, Louisville. I'm still going to pick SMU
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: at this point. They've got, obviously, a really tough test
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: in Week 1 and Week 3 with going on the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: road at Florida State and then having to face Louisville
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: on the road. So we'll learn a lot about them
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: early on. And then they do face Virginia. I think Virginia,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: their schedule, number one, sets up pretty well for them.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I think they got SMU, and then I don't think
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: they really have too much else on there. They will
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: have to go on the road and beat Virginia Tech
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: and Blacksburg, which I don't think has happened in a minute.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So they've got to overcome some things there, but their
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: schedule sets up very favorably there. If you're Virginia now,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you're feeling like you're in the driver's seat to do
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: something special and return to Charlotte and keep things going.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: They're right there in the mix. Bo Pribula, the one
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: thing to watch is health. If they're going to run
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: him like that, they better have the training staff on call.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: He obviously did get hurt at Missouri last year, but
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: he's got maybe a run game that they can feature
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: a little bit more. in the future games and kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: of develop that with that offensive line. I thought the
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: run game was fine. I didn't think it was something that,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you know, overly got the job done. But, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: they were also so efficient offensively, so you kind of
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: have to weigh that against it a little bit because
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: 9 of 11 is pretty sweet for 150-something yards and
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: a big play touchdown. So they were really just ready
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: to go as a team. I thought that was very
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: impressive work. by Tony Elliott and his staff, and they've
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: got a lot of experienced offensive linemen that You can
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: kind of lean on in this era where there's so
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: many changes and so many different faces coming in and out.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: You have to like what Virginia has put forward as
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: far as their resume early, early to be that number
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: two team in the ACC after losing some key difference
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: makers off of that team that made the title game
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Billy, is there any path where Miami wouldn't win the ACC?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Is there anything you see there where you think, well,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: if this happens, this happens, maybe it's not Miami's conference,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: or is this pretty much 100% Miami's year on the ACC?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Miami still has a schedule that they can find themselves
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: later in the year losing a couple of games because
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Let's be real. Miami had an incredible run to the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: national championship last year, but that's still what they do
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: in the regular season until proven otherwise is lose a
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: couple games that they shouldn't. And so they've got Pitt.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: They've got Florida State rivalry game. which I'm not saying
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I'm picking Florida State or anything, but you have those
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: types of games that are on the schedule that could
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: throw a wrench in things. But their schedule is very gettable. So,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have them in Charlotte. I have them
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: breaking through and returning to the ACC title game for
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: the first time in a long time. But they still
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: have a lot of different pieces on that defensive line now.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: different pieces on the offensive line, and a new quarterback
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: in Darian Mensah who's very different from Carson Beck. So
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: they will be fine, I think, because of their schedule
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: early on, kind of maybe adjusting to those changes, those
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: new faces, all of those changes. But they still have
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: to prove that they can go through a regular season
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: without losing two games, frankly, that they shouldn't. And they
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: do face Notre Dame, which doesn't impact them on the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: ACC side of things, but it sure as heck can
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: impact them making the college football playoff and kind of
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: holding up that brand for, for the ACC. So yeah,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: there's a world. I like them to make it to Charlotte.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I think their schedule is very favorable, but it's, they
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: still got to prove it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, Billy. We appreciate everybody. Check out the all
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: access AM podcast, Billy, one of the hosts of that
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: podcast and his SMU coverage for, for on three sports.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Billy. Appreciate you.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Anytime. Thanks for having me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: All right, Billy. There you go, Billy. Embody joining us there, Bone,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: with his perspective from Dallas on the ACC. If I
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: were to tell my 2021 self that, I would have
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: wondered what I was talking about.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Hey, the football program, though, for the ACC, they've been important, right?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Made the playoffs a couple years ago. I mean, yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: it's kind of odd that teams are now in this conference,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: but SMU has been sorely needed for the ranking and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the placement in the playoffs. No, they're a needed program
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: in this conference.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. I'm not even denying that one bit, man.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And who are we kidding? The Bay Area teams are
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: way weirder than SMU. It's true. SMU, weird. Bay Area teams,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: very weird.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I'm setting you up to sing the song here, Mackers, also.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: What's that? Who's talking SMU right now? I am. Pony Boney! Oh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: is that the only reason you said all that?
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: You thought it would trigger Pony Boney. My bad. People,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: including Walker Mayo, love that song. He does. He does
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: like it. I was just trying to work my way
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: to this line that Billy Embody was our guest there,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and that man embodied everything we look for in a
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: college football guest. Now, here's the thing. We're going to
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: pull back the curtains.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Mac told me in advance that he was going to
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: wait to pull the trigger on that with the loft
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: ears off the air.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to say it to him because I
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: feel like he's probably heard stupid embodied jokes before. That
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: embodied everything you are. This texter says, what a difference
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a weekend makes. Every ACC interview y'all did in the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: offseason bashed my heels and praised the annoying, overhyped Wolfpack. Man,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: things have changed. He's so right. The tone has changed completely, Bone.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: If we could turn back time, baby, and go back
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to all those interviews, all those segments I did, hyping
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: up NC State and bashing the dysfunction of UNC.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: My God, the script has flipped. I told you my plan.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Week zero doesn't count for anything. Takes, games, doesn't matter.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Nothing happened in week zero. It's all about week one now, right?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I wish gambling was the same way. Nothing happened in
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: week zero. All your money comes back.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: No, that's not the case.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: When we come back, it's What the Bleep, stories in
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: sports and in life that make us say.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: What the bleep on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: If I could turn back time If I could find
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: a way I'd take back those words that hurt you.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: This goes out to Bill Belichick. If I could turn
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: back time, I wouldn't have said all those mean things
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: about you, Bill. But I'll tell you this, though. Y'all
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: get rid of Lombardi, though, please. Don't bring that fool
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: back ever again.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: All right, we are back. That's one Lombardi Belichick shouldn't claim.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You're right. He's collecting Lombardis, including that doofus. You got plenty,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: including that one. Is that why he likes him so much?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Because of his last name? He thinks he's... he's like
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: he's i think we all know that ain't the case
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: um but yeah is he he just is so into
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: collecting lombardi's bone that he felt like i gotta get
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: this one too there's.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Also no way that michael lombardi hasn't tried to use
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: his last name for cloud at some point right You.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Think he's tried to make people think he's Vince's All-Star?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: You don't think Young St. John Lombardi tried to throw
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: that name out there like it was the same thing?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: More on faking, pretending your NFL personalities during this What
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the Bleep segment. Because we have not one but two
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: dudes pretending to be NFL players. This is an epidemic.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Bone, start us off, though. Get us to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: a What the Bleep story. What do you have over there, sir?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Mac, this is quite the ordeal happening right now in
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Southern California. where thieves stole a truck carrying approximately 40,000
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: pounds of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer. The shipment containing over
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: 50,000 cans of PBR was picked up by a fraudulent
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: carrier at an Anheuser-Busch distribution center in Montclair, California. Here's
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the thing, though, Mackers, in this day and age, Pabst
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: is not going quietly in this. They now have a
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: social media campaign with a ticking clock that's counting down
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: for how many days and minutes the thieves have to
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: return the beers. They're saying no questions asked. We just
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: want our beer back. Quote, the beer is getting warmer.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: The trail's getting colder. The clock is ticking. Give us
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: our beer back.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: They got a pretty good sense of humor for losing
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: that much money's worth of product.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I got to be honest. Now, I'm going to what
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the bleep bone. You have to decide who you want
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to bleep. Do you want to bleep the casual attitude there,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: or do you want to bleep in people that want
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: that much PBR? Got to be honest with you, man.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: PBR is brutal, man. Apparently also. Why do you need
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that much?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: They got them twice because they got them an hour
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: later again. So $ 70, 000 worth of beer. Mac, I have
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: a suggestion. What race was this past Saturday?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Daytona?
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that PBR truck may have landed somewhere.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Is that where you were looking, the tailgate lots? I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: would look towards somewhere near Daytona.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to risk getting in trouble
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: with the law to steal beer, make it better than PBR.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: My God, what the bleep are we doing, y'all? All right.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I've got to talk about a story of a man
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: who caught his wife cheating bone. But man, did he
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: not use an amazingly creative method? Apparently, he has one
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of those. I don't think it's Roomba brand. But it's like,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you know, those Roombas that, you know, those those little
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: vacuum cleaners that do it all on their own. He
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: had a version of that sort of vacuum cleaner that
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: is equipped with a camera. Well, when he suspected his
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: wife of cheating, he realized I can use that. to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: catch her cheating and lo and behold he fired up
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that camera and there it is in the living room
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: his wife taking off layers of clothing and another man
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is there enjoying things and he caught her well it
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: turns out bone it helped him win a civil suit
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: against them but the problem is bone he then got
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: taken to court Because apparently it is illegal, Bone, in
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the state that they live in to use cameras. Oh,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: my God. Without somebody's knowledge. The judge ruled that the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: marital obligations do not supersede an individual's fundamental right to
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: privacy within a private home. This poor guy's been sentenced
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: to a few months in jail.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: What?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: This poor guy got to go to jail, man, because
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: he used his damn Roomba camera to catch his wife.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: That doesn't feel fair. That feels what the bleepy man.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: If the Roomba catches your other doing the Roomba, you
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: should not go to jail.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: That's absurd.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: That's just not right, man. The guy got cheated on,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: caught him, he ends up in jail. I know. It's rough, dude.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: It's rough.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Speaking of rough and jail, Matt, I've told you before,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: my YouTube algorithm right now is really nothing but.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Alf alf episodes for free and uh a lot of
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: dui and body cam checkpoint videos where people freak out
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: they go crazy it's basically like watching uh cops but
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: in real time from back in the day mac 2
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: stood out to me that happened this year that we
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: need to talk about in the oh my god what
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: are the odds category This 19-year-old girl in Wisconsin got
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a DUI. It wasn't a big deal. They gave her
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the DUI, and they sent her on her way. An
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: hour later, the cops put over a car, and they said,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: don't tell me this is the same girl. The same girl, Matt,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: got two DUIs within one hour of each other. Her
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: reasoning was, they said, didn't we send you home with somebody?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: She said, yeah, but once I went home, I thought
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I could come back out again and be okay. She
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: got two DUIs in one hour.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Did she not have to go to the pokey for
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the DUI? I guess in Wisconsin, maybe it wasn't. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: don't know. They sent her home. I don't know if
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: she had a court date. I don't know.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: But she got two in one night. Now, here's another
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: one that I saw yesterday, Mac. A guy got a
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: DUI and he got sent to jail. And this guy
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: was quite a character. He kept dropping names about all
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the cops that he knew and how.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Big he was in the town. Not a.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Guy you're rooting for by any means here. Not that
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: you're rooting for DUIs, but not a guy you felt
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: bad for. So he gets a DUI. He gets one
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: phone call. He calls his wife up. who also had
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: been drinking with them before he calls his wife up
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: and says hey they got me for a dui blah
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah she says well this isn't right i'm
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: coming down there she comes down there and then cops
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: sniffed this one out they said if they were drinking
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: together we're gonna guess that when she gets here we're
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: gonna bust her for the same thing she pulled into
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: the police parking lot she got a dui the husband
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: and wife ended up in the same holding cell mac
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: with separate DUIs.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: My God, there's some damn dummies out there. That was
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Florida man, by the way, for that one. Of course
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it was. What the bleep we doing out there? Y'all Uber, man.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Uber!
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: My goodness. And that's what I spend my days watching.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. My goodness. All right, Bone. I've got
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to wait. the bleep. Kirk Herbstreet. All right. Kirk Herbstreet.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like Bone shared a little bit too much
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: information about his wife. And I say this as somebody
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: who's probably done the same thing on the air and
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: upset Mrs.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Mack a time or two. I'm just glad he still
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: has a wife. He spent so much time with Peter.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: We weren't sure what's going on.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Listen to Herb Street on the Puss in with the
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Boys podcast talking about why they have four boys and
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: no girls and that they have a method, Bone, after
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: they have a little fun, right? They have a method
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: that he believes has ensured they had all boys and
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: no girls. You have a secret?
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: How many do you have?
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Four.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: All boys. What's your secret?
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Secret to get boys, man.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: How do you do it, man?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Well, my wife, to be specific, my wife was a gymnast.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: So when we would get done with, when we were done,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: she read something or something. Back handspring? No, she would do.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: A handstand?
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: She heard that the male sperm were faster.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: She would do a handstand. She would go up on
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: the bed.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: And we're four for four.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: How long is she holding the handstand?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: She's a gymnast. She doesn't matter. She's a gymnast. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: don't know how long. Hey, crack the code. Crack the code.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: She's like, all right, Kirk, hit the timer. We got
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to go two minutes from this dance. Can I just
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: say one thing, though? My second, we did the same thing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: My wife was not a gymnast, so I held her legs.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Oh!
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I held her. And we're both laughing about it. We're like, sweetheart,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: we got it. We're getting the boy this time.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: That's so funny.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. What the bleep. Herbie, please tell me, Bone,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Herbie got a talking to from the missus after sharing
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: that story. There's no way. The whole world is thinking
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: about his ex-gymnast wife doing a handstand on the bed. Oh,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: my God. I also got an image of Taylor LeJuan.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to get either in that whole thing. Oh,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to Florida where a man, Omar Soliman,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: in Brevard County, was arrested for going 117 miles per
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: hour on I-95. Now, you always say it's not about
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: the act with these stories. It's about the reasoning behind.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: that these folks give. Omar said he's got an explanation
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: why he was going so fast. He was trying to
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: get to a Bucky's bathroom. Here's the problem with Omar's story.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Cop said, great story. Bucky's bathroom is 65 miles away. Oh,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I don't blame him for trying to get to those
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Buc-ee's bathrooms. Those things are impressive.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: The sheriff said we understand how pristine those are. Yeah, impressive.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Large and clean. You got to go the speed limit
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: to get yourself to that bathroom. See, I'm telling you,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: what the bleepiest part of those stories are the excuses.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: The excuses are worse than the crime. I swear they are. Bone,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know who to what the bleep in this story.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a handstand story where the where the guy
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: out there in the Bay Area is. The FBI says
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: that he has defrauded over 20 women. for a total
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: of $ 1. 3 million. His scam was pretending to be a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: wide receiver for the 49ers. Dude, this guy's methods include
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: working out on the beach while wearing a 49ers helmet.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Because that's what pro football players do. Yeah, all the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: pro football players went on the beach. They got their
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: bathing suit and they got their helmet. So who am
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I what the bleeping bone? This guy that did this stuff,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: which is just unethical as hell. stealing money, or am
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I what to bleep the women that fell for this?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: There's an exchange here, Bone, on Twitter that goes to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: show how Juliana Caro, who is one of the victims,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: how gullible she might have been. She sent out a tweet,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: went from dating these little Bay Area boys... to on
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: a date with an NFL players. Ladies, this is your
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: sign to never settle. And then a guy, a guy
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: responds and says, I wonder which player it is. Juliana
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Caro says he's one of the best wide receivers in
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the NFL. That's all you need to know, poppy. She
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: was like flaunting the fact that she was dating this
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: star receiver and she was being hoodwinked the whole time.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: There's also a guy, Bone, that showed up that has
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: been impersonating a former cowboy and Bucks player that showed
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: up at a charity event pretending he was a former
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: cowboy player. What the bleep are we doing and why
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: are we falling for this?
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: How about the 49er guy also was promoting a fake
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: camp for kids? It's brutal. The lengths he went to
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: is brutal. He also had flyers out for a fake
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: turkey drive at Thanksgiving time. It's unbelievable. No number on
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: how to contact him. So as Big Cat from Barstool
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: yesterday said, one of the nicest impersonators ever.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: This guy was trying to do right. The other guy
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: was at a charity event, the Dallas guy. So yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: look at these guys. These guys go to any, they
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: make you think they're doing charity work.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Real quick, Matt, my final story. In Canada, Rogers Communication
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: got a phone call from a couple in British Columbia
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: that lost their home in a wildfire. They called to
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: cancel their two-year contract for home, for cable and internet.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Rogers Mac charged them $ 660 cancellation fee.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: For having to cancel because they lost their home in
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a wildfire. That is hard.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: There was so much backlash that they had to eventually
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: go back on that. But still, you talk about the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: ultimate kick in the shins there. We want to cancel.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: We have no home. Well, you're getting charged $ 660.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: For having no home. You talk about cutthroat corporate crap.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: That's it right there. What the bleep? I'm glad they
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: got called on it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: When we come back, has Bill Belichick changed the way
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: UNC fans feel about him? Or is it too early
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: for all that? Sports Radio 92.7.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Thank you.