Latest / The 3-0 Take / 2027 Lockout Guaranteed? (Tony Clark Scandal Reaction)
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- 0:00Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
- 0:04all things Major League Baseball.
- 0:06Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
- 0:10It all starts right now. Oh.
- 0:16Welcome back to the Three O Take presented by Schnook Sedery.
- 0:18This episode 595 will be your host Kyle Corwin.
- 0:21I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
- 0:24Nate. KCJB How are we?
- 0:32What's up? We relaxed, we feeling good.
- 0:35Feeling good. Rejuvenated.
- 0:38Rejuvenated. Sorry.
- 0:39Sorry. Pause a little late.
- 0:40That was on me. I'd take take.
- 0:42The blame for that was out of town.
- 0:47We're back. You can't say.
- 0:50Town, I think when you leave the Continental 48.
- 0:54I'm glad you clarified because yeah, it is most certainly a
- 0:58territory. Yeah, but I don't, I don't know
- 1:01how I feel about by the way. There's billboards all over
- 1:05Puerto Rico like, hey, let's make this the 51st state.
- 1:07And I'm like, I don't know how I feel about that either.
- 1:09I'm not educated enough to know if that's a good or bad thing.
- 1:12I don't me neither. What are what are the people?
- 1:13Why? Why should I care?
- 1:14It's about it's what the people of Puerto Rico want.
- 1:17I just like a round Number like 50.
- 1:20Like if once we crack 50, it's like, well, where do we stop?
- 1:24Well, it's like MLB expansion if we're going to bring Puerto Rico
- 1:26in. Who you got to add another one
- 1:28You can are we adding? Guam like how is that?
- 1:30Is that how that's going to work or Greenland do we bring in
- 1:34Greenland as the 5050 second state?
- 1:36I don't it's. Like turning the volume on your
- 1:37TV to 21. It's like, no, it's either 20 or
- 1:4122. It's not 21.
- 1:43Yeah, can't do that. Or an increment of five
- 1:45increment of fives are allowed. 55 wouldn't be bad.
- 1:50Well, I was talking about the volume, but yeah, that also
- 1:51applies to statehood. Yeah, sure.
- 1:53Yeah, yeah. Take parts of Canada.
- 1:56I don't know what we would do. We basically took Canada and
- 2:01women's hockey today. I don't know if you saw that
- 2:03shout out. To suck at Canada.
- 2:05Stars and Stripes women's hockey freaking suck it.
- 2:08I'm glad. I'm glad there's a natural
- 2:10Segway there because I was really wanting to give them
- 2:12their props. But I was like, I don't know how
- 2:14I bring in Olympic women's hockey into the conversation,
- 2:17but shout out, shout out to the Stars and Bars.
- 2:20The men's hockey is in the semis, as is Canada.
- 2:25And I believe if they win their respective, yeah, 'cause they're
- 2:29on opposite, yeah, opposite side of the bracket.
- 2:31So if they win their respective semi match ups, it's going to be
- 2:33another USA versus Canada. Some more brawls.
- 2:38To match up. So is that not not that we got
- 2:41to get it. This isn't a hockey podcast, but
- 2:43is is fighting quote UN quote banned in Olympic hockey?
- 2:49I saw that there's I saw something about there being like
- 2:51a, a different stipulation with Olympic fighting in the Olympics
- 2:57versus just your regular NHL type thing.
- 3:00I don't know if there's like harsher punishments or what, but
- 3:02I. Don't know.
- 3:04Yeah, I mean, I guess my question is, is, is fighting not
- 3:07banned in the NHL? They they do get a penalty for
- 3:10it is. That no, but that's what I'm
- 3:11saying. That's what I'm saying.
- 3:13I think it I, I think there's a harsher penalty.
- 3:15I don't know. I've I'm not, I'm not educated
- 3:18enough on the topic to even have an educated guess, but.
- 3:22Don't matter. I just didn't know.
- 3:23But yeah, your to your point, it doesn't matter.
- 3:25I'm I'm hoping that we get that championship, that gold medal
- 3:29game, that particular match up and there's lots of fighting.
- 3:32Yeah, I I can. And that.
- 3:34I can give you something here. It is strictly prohibited in
- 3:39Olympic ice hockey under the IIHF rules.
- 3:42It doesn't matter what that stands for.
- 3:43It's hockey penalties, including automatic game misconduct,
- 3:48misconduct and potential tournament suspensions.
- 3:51Unlike NHL and it actually says which permits fighting because
- 3:55you just get a penalty box. But in this case you would be
- 3:59thrown out of the game and possibly not able to play the
- 4:05rest of the tournament. Well, don't do our national
- 4:07anthem and. Well, they got the Four Nations,
- 4:13so I can't. We can only say so much, but
- 4:16hopefully we can bounce back in the gold medal game should both
- 4:19teams get there. But talking all this noise about
- 4:23penalties and penalty boxes and fighting and all that really
- 4:26makes me think of Tony Clark's situation right now.
- 4:29Probably in the proverbial penalty box, probably a lot of a
- 4:34lot of fights with his wife, Probably.
- 4:36Banned. Probably banned.
- 4:38Probably. Probably banned in whatever
- 4:40sense he could be banned A. Lot of going on there, a lot of.
- 4:45Booing. Yep.
- 4:46Yep. I don't really know what to make
- 4:50of this situation, to be honest with you.
- 4:54I didn't really. I mean, how many times were we
- 4:57really going to talk about Tony Clark in his role with the
- 5:00MLBPAI mean, maybe a couple. I mean, we talked about it
- 5:04certainly with with the COVID, the shortened season, the
- 5:06lockout, this and that. But we're not talking about Tony
- 5:09Clark on a regular basis. But All in all, I, I wasn't wild
- 5:13about Tony Clark in this role anyway.
- 5:18I just don't feel like he was a, a leader of, of men as it were.
- 5:25I don't feel like he he best represented the players.
- 5:27And I'm really not trying to rewrite my take here, but I
- 5:30don't think I ever went on record being like, I'm a big
- 5:31Tony Clark guy, but. Yeah, I think the beard helped.
- 5:37I remember that that phase where the beard came in and I was
- 5:42like, oh, like maybe he's, you know, going to be better at this
- 5:46job because of that. I don't really know.
- 5:50I haven't really paid attention until now.
- 5:55This is a just a real, real tough look, you know?
- 6:01Real humdinger of a situation, Tony Clark, if if you haven't
- 6:05heard out as executive director of the Players Association for
- 6:10Major League Baseball, the I think initially the report came
- 6:15out was that he was going to resign as a result of some
- 6:22misallocation of funds. Is that what we originally were
- 6:27given? Yeah, through reports and then
- 6:30it later very shortly, I feel like was it even like was it
- 6:33that day that we found out like even a couple hours?
- 6:37Morning and afternoon. Yeah, morning, afternoon.
- 6:39We we find out that, oh by the way, also dare we say sleeping
- 6:48or can we say sleeping with his sister-in-law?
- 6:52Inappropriate relationship. Inappropriate relationship I
- 6:57guess is where we'll legally and officially leave it.
- 7:01Well, it's it's also noting, worth noting that she was hired
- 7:06by the MLBPA in 23, so this is a workplace thing as well.
- 7:10Yeah, the whole nepotism thing comes into play and I have the
- 7:14office to thank for that to really give me a good
- 7:18understanding. It's important and a television
- 7:21series sense of what that really looks like.
- 7:25Shout out Michael Scott. Yeah, man, what a just a messy
- 7:30situation and the the timing of it could not be worse.
- 7:34I mean, maybe it could be like if, if this was like the week of
- 7:38the CBA expiring, maybe, but I outside of that, I, the fact
- 7:43that we're within the confines of the year in which it's
- 7:47expiring, just not great. And I want to get URL's take on
- 7:54this because I saw, I saw Nate, I think you even said this in
- 7:58the group text where you're like something along the lines of
- 8:01like, well, that puts the nail in the coffin.
- 8:04Some people were saying that that put the nail in the coffin
- 8:08that we were headed for a lockout.
- 8:10But then I saw equally, I saw people say this puts a nail in
- 8:13the coffin that we're going to avoid or not the nail in the
- 8:17coffin, but it it lessens our chance of heading for a lockout.
- 8:20And I'm like, I don't know how well it is society today.
- 8:25So of course, there's going to be polarizing opinions on on a
- 8:28given topic, but I just don't know how we can be so across the
- 8:33spectrum here on how we think this impacts the lockout next
- 8:38year. I don't really know to be honest
- 8:45with you. Didn't his number 2 step in?
- 8:48So it's like, is anything going to change?
- 8:52I don't know. I I think it was going to happen
- 8:54anyway. You know, I just more so
- 8:58thinking of the fact that it's like, I don't know, I guess we
- 9:02have enough time on the player side to like prepare for it now.
- 9:06Like, I don't know, I don't think it would have mattered.
- 9:10Probably doesn't matter who's in that spot.
- 9:13It is what it is. It's, it's more so of the, you
- 9:16know, the owners putting their foot down on stuff.
- 9:18But it just doesn't. I don't, I can't see how it
- 9:23helps, you know what I'm saying? I can't see how this helps get
- 9:27things resolved in a timely manner.
- 9:30Well, it just makes you wonder because that time exists that we
- 9:34have from now until when the CBA expires, if this Bruce Meyer is
- 9:44able to make some adjustments to the internal philosophy is some
- 9:50adjustments to the conversation that they did to the to the case
- 9:54rather that they are going to bring to the negotiating table,
- 9:57I don't know. I don't know, JB brought up a
- 10:00good point when we were off air and he was, you know, in the
- 10:04group chat just kind of talking about, I don't want to speak to
- 10:07you, speak for you. You can take over whenever, but
- 10:10just the fact that like there's there was a level of excitement
- 10:14of maybe like whoever's could potentially take over could be a
- 10:20little bit more better negotiation or better, you know,
- 10:24actual compromise versus this Mexican standoff between Tony
- 10:29Clark and Robert Manford. But now it just kind of seems
- 10:31like if it's his number 2 and Tony Clark's shadow, it's like,
- 10:37is it? Are we going to just get more of
- 10:39the same? So not just #2 Bruce Meyer is
- 10:43the guy who does most of the negotiating already.
- 10:47So by putting him into place, they, they kind of kept things
- 10:52going the way they were going. That doesn't mean that that he
- 10:56may not have his own thoughts, but I was the one in the group
- 11:04chat who said I was hopeful that maybe they could avoid.
- 11:10And there's two things right here.
- 11:11There's a there's a lockout that's happening on December 1st
- 11:14or whenever that CBA expires. But missing games is really the
- 11:18thing we care about. There will be a lockout.
- 11:21What we're hopeful for is we don't miss any games in 2027.
- 11:24And they're going to have to make a lot of ground here.
- 11:26They're going to have to compromise, which is what
- 11:28negotiation should be. But Tony Clark being out doesn't
- 11:33have to be the worst thing ever. I'm going to quote a Travis
- 11:37Sochik tweet here. The legacy of Tony Clark leading
- 11:40the MLBPAA hallowing out of baseball's middle class.
- 11:45Increase in average salary, but median pay stagnates. 60 to 65%
- 11:51of players played at or near the minimum in recent seasons.
- 11:55Most players never reach free agency or late arbitration.
- 12:00Growing wealth gap between players.
- 12:02Kyle Tucker will make 77 times the league minimum this season.
- 12:06And MLB league revenue growth trailed NFL and NBA due in part
- 12:12to competitive imbalance. Now, like, I'm not trying to
- 12:16make any like salary cap statements here.
- 12:19That's not what I'm trying to say here.
- 12:20But Tony Clark had one group in mind, the very top echelon of
- 12:27players in free agency who were making a lot of money.
- 12:30He fought tooth and nail against bringing the minor leaguers into
- 12:34the PA for for these sorts of reasons.
- 12:36I didn't know that. And so like, those are the types
- 12:39of things that are that made me hopeful that, hey, maybe we can
- 12:43get somebody who will represent all of the players, not just one
- 12:48subset of players. And the financial stuff probably
- 12:55aligns with some of that if he was just trying to line his
- 12:59pockets with, with money that was coming in, supporting them
- 13:02and creating these, these fake. I, I mean, I'm calling it fake,
- 13:07but it doesn't have to be fake. This liked youth program called
- 13:11Player's Way. Did you see that?
- 13:13Yeah, man, that that pissed me off.
- 13:15I'm like, you know, if adults are going to be adults and just
- 13:19make these decisions that ultimately will, you know, but I
- 13:24mean, can we say end, end your career?
- 13:28So be it. But when you start, when you
- 13:30start, you know, impacting the youth level.
- 13:33And I know that it sounds so like idealistic and it's that
- 13:36people probably hear that and they go, you know, man, that's
- 13:38just that's just the way the world is.
- 13:40It's like, can we just leave the kids out of it?
- 13:43Because like I, I actually dug around today.
- 13:45I like dug into some of their, you know, their social profiles
- 13:48and stuff. And some of them are still up.
- 13:49I think like the Linkedin's up, the Facebook I think is still
- 13:52up. And like they've got a cover.
- 13:54Yeah, they've got like the, in the cover photos.
- 13:56It's like kids running, you know, timed 60 yard dashes or
- 14:00something. And I'm like, that's like, I
- 14:04feel like that's where, well, you draw the line.
- 14:07I guess it's sleeping with your sister-in-law, but I feel like
- 14:11from a business perspective, you draw the line at, you know,
- 14:14impacting kids or whether or not these kids even existed is
- 14:18another, another conversation. But don't use like this youth
- 14:22initiative to to to further your profits.
- 14:25I read today that the mailing address was like a U PS: Post
- 14:31office box in Florida wasn't even a real.
- 14:36They didn't have a real site, they never real location.
- 14:40So I'm like what? What are we doing?
- 14:43But yeah, the this whole. Tony sounds like a great a
- 14:46scumbag man this whole. Thing.
- 14:48We're just come out and say it. Yeah, this whole situation
- 14:51reeks. And you know, like I said, I
- 14:54think the timing's unfortunate, but because it's not, maybe
- 14:58it's. Fortunate.
- 15:00Well, that's what I'm going to say because it's not the week
- 15:02that the CBA expires and we, we do still have some time to get
- 15:07things, you know, squared away. Hopefully that the, the players
- 15:10can figure this out. I'm just, I'm, I'm to, to use
- 15:14your, your illustration 8, the Mexican Mexican standoff.
- 15:19I'm, I'm sick of, I'm sick of both sides.
- 15:22Like can we have like a little bit of unpredictability with
- 15:26these things where there's some compromise involved instead of
- 15:30it just being like, well, the response it the MLB, the
- 15:32statement that the MLBPA tweeted out was exactly what we thought.
- 15:37In fact, it was worse. Or vice versa.
- 15:40This statement that the league put out where they're trying to
- 15:42protect the integrity of the league and then the players come
- 15:46out with a statement. Well, we're just looking out for
- 15:48the players best interest. It's like, OK, great, you all
- 15:52passed your PR classes, but can we, can we like actually make an
- 15:56effort like a, a, a good faith effort to make sure that we're
- 16:02not missing out on, on real baseball games?
- 16:05That would be great. Like the, the, the posturing we
- 16:10don't need, we don't need any more of that.
- 16:11We've seen it enough even within the last decade.
- 16:14We we don't need more of that, especially with the state of the
- 16:17game and the the momentum that I feel like the game has built up
- 16:21even in just the last few years. Is this is this Bruce Wayne guy
- 16:26an interim or is he like fully hired?
- 16:28It's named interim, yeah. Cool, cool.
- 16:33It is half of his face is like burned off apparently.
- 16:38Yeah, well, two face. Yeah, that's Harvey Dent.
- 16:43That's Harvey Dent. They're not nerdy enough to play
- 16:45this game, dude. I tried, man.
- 16:48I tried. I tried.
- 16:51The The thing is though is that there is enough time to like MLB
- 16:54will try. I'm sorry, trying to rein in
- 16:56there. MLB would.
- 16:59Try to use. Something like this and I think
- 17:03that it'll be too it'll be too long ago for this to really play
- 17:09and those guys should be representing the the the players
- 17:12anyway. So the the players being united
- 17:18is going to be the thing that matters most there.
- 17:21But as far as games, yeah, that's my thought.
- 17:24Let's let's not talk about the top end of players, the the
- 17:28association leaders who were line in their pockets, the
- 17:31owners who are line in their pockets.
- 17:33Instead, let's talk about all the players, the young players
- 17:36included, and the fans. And let's get it right before
- 17:40the beginning of 2027. I've said it before, I'm more of
- 17:45an Iron Man guy, so I apologize. No, that's a good point.
- 17:51But the league nor the the players association will hear
- 17:57that argument. Josh and I, I hear it.
- 17:59Nate hears it. We want the focus.
- 18:02To be put on the fans, we put on the game, to be put on the fact
- 18:05that games are hopefully going to continue to be played.
- 18:09But at the end of the day, they've proven time and time
- 18:11again both sides. Don't care.
- 18:14About that as much as they they claim to.
- 18:20So I don't know, man, but let's just be glad we've got baseball
- 18:27this year, I guess. And.
- 18:30If we're not, if we're going to miss games next year, just
- 18:33cancel the season. Oh no, I'm, I'm, I'm so I'm so I
- 18:38could not be more serious if we're going to miss any games
- 18:41because. Just from like.
- 18:44A fan perspective, it's it like looking, I mean, it's kind of an
- 18:50extreme situation, but you look back on the shortened season and
- 18:53it's like taking it taking into account stats and the path to a
- 18:57championship and the narratives that surround that.
- 18:59Like I don't want to deal with that in a in a shortened season,
- 19:04regardless how shortened. Like it's just, if we're going
- 19:06to play baseball, let's play baseball, if not, just punt
- 19:11until 2028. Because I, I don't want to have
- 19:13to deal with this back and forth posturing statement like daily
- 19:17statements put out on social. I, I don't need it.
- 19:19I'm not mentally. Prepared for that?
- 19:21Let's talk something cooler here.
- 19:24I'll, I'll give you something here, Kyle.
- 19:26In 2020 we were shortened to 60 games.
- 19:30Tell. Bryce Harper, he can't have
- 19:31those thirteen home runs because we'd rather just not have a
- 19:34shortened season. Yeah, you tell him.
- 19:39No, wait, I don't I. Don't know set was I don't.
- 19:43Was that a, was that a slight to me or to Bryce or to both?
- 19:48It's a set. Oh, I, no, I.
- 19:50Get the Segway. I trust me, I I get it and I'm
- 19:54about to spike it on your faces. But I'm I'm.
- 19:57Not ready to just roll right past that. 13 home runs.
- 20:02In 2020, so I'm saying even if you have a shortened season,
- 20:05some of these guys can tack on a few extra home runs on their
- 20:08career numbers that would help them out.
- 20:09Even if they just play 60. That's all I was.
- 20:12That's fair. I was just making a.
- 20:14Case for games and then throwing Bryce Harper into the middle of
- 20:16it yeah I. Felt like a targeted attack and
- 20:19I don't. I don't really, I was just
- 20:20trying to. Set you up there.
- 20:21No, no, no. I.
- 20:22Get you, I get you. I get you.
- 20:23But I, I still didn't like it. I don't like, I don't like
- 20:26what's going on with Bryce right now, man.
- 20:28I I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't particularly care for the
- 20:32narratives. And the stories that are?
- 20:35Being written about our sweet young Prince.
- 20:37Some of it's, I will say, his own fault.
- 20:39And I don't know why Nate's shaking his head.
- 20:43It's our our. Collectively.
- 20:49That Bugs Bunny. Soviet meme our no we.
- 20:53Fought against royalty? I don't.
- 20:56I don't recognize any Princess. Maybe 1?
- 20:59But beside the point. We can 2 Princess then. 2.
- 21:09Princess. Bryce Harper.
- 21:11Still not happy as you would expect fielding.
- 21:15That's that's the best part of spring training is all these
- 21:18guys get to the get to the complexes and they have to
- 21:20answer for everything that's happened over the last three
- 21:22months. So you get all sorts of all, all
- 21:25sorts of goodies with sound bites and clips and and things
- 21:28like that. Who's in?
- 21:29Who's in? The best shape Who's in the
- 21:31worst shape? Who's gained the?
- 21:33The quote UN quote 15 lbs of muscle.
- 21:35Apparently everybody gains 15 lbs of muscle over the off that
- 21:39freaking. Dude, for the Rockies did.
- 21:40For real though. Zach Veen, did you see that kid?
- 21:43No, let me. See, let me pull up the picture.
- 21:46Zach Veen looks like a action figure now.
- 21:51That dude went from scrawny jazz Chisholm size to.
- 21:58The. Beef Head.
- 22:00Squidward Beef head. He's huge.
- 22:05No. That's AI.
- 22:06That's not real. No, he's not.
- 22:08Dude, he's massive. No, there are.
- 22:10Some AI ones out there, so be there's one.
- 22:14There's one particularly where he's doing a drill he's doing
- 22:17like an outfield drill. Not the one that says thick.
- 22:22Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, that's what I.
- 22:24That's what I saw. I'm like, so he.
- 22:26Saw he saw a tire fell for that. Yeah, I mean face.
- 22:34Shape is different in everything.
- 22:35Or it is. I shouldn't say it this way, but
- 22:38it does remind you of the of the Barry Bonds transformation.
- 22:42Oh, we all know how that. Happened right?
- 22:46No, I was Speaking of Barry. Bonds one of one of the games
- 22:49greats. Bryce Harper in the news for
- 22:52forced those. Forced.
- 22:54Of course, they're all forced. Well, with a couple of C minus
- 23:01step it up. I'll take it.
- 23:02I'll take it. No, all these guys have an
- 23:06answer for things from over the offseason and Ashley Bryce had
- 23:10to address the comments that Dave Dombrowski made about him
- 23:14and whether or not he was quote UN quote elite.
- 23:17I'm here to I'm here to break the glass for a lot of people
- 23:21that just don't know how to read.
- 23:25And that includes Bryce Harper because my guy ran with his
- 23:30narrative and was kind of peeved.
- 23:34Mind you, I'm a big Bryce guy, in case you didn't know.
- 23:36So it's it's taken a lot for me to better than a big Peter.
- 23:41Guy, it's taken. A lot for me to to have to say
- 23:45this to my guy Bryce, but Bryce took apparently clearly took,
- 23:52took offense to the whole Dave Dombrowski elite conversation.
- 23:56However, what people don't understand is that Dave
- 23:58Dombrowski did not say that Bryce Harper was not elite.
- 24:02The quote was taken out of context, as are many quotes.
- 24:05What Dave Dombrowski said Dave Dombrowski said earlier this
- 24:08offseason is he said regarding this past season, not not Bryce
- 24:16Harper's career or as a player in general, He said general, He
- 24:24said general, he said. Regarding his 2015 and 2021 MVP
- 24:30seasons, Dombrowski said. Can he rise to the to the next
- 24:34level again? I really don't know that answer.
- 24:37He's the one that will dictate that more than anything else.
- 24:40I don't think he's content with the year that he had.
- 24:42Again, it wasn't its meaning last year.
- 24:45It wasn't a bad year. But when I think of Bryce
- 24:48Harper, you think elite, you think one of the top ten players
- 24:52in baseball, and I don't think it fit into that category, it
- 24:57being the 2025 season. Now with that.
- 25:05Said. Bryce Harper's.
- 25:09Response. Before we even.
- 25:13Heard his thoughts on it recently.
- 25:16I'm sure you've seen the picture.
- 25:17He was in the cage this offseason with a shirt that said
- 25:20quote, not elite. Now mind you just this I think
- 25:27it. Was just this past week, he
- 25:29said. I don't get.
- 25:32Motivated by that kind of stuff. Well, Bryce, I would disagree.
- 25:37Given that you went and got a shirt made that said, quote, not
- 25:41elite. I would go ahead and say that
- 25:43you, you, you kind of took offense to that and maybe it
- 25:48maybe ruffled some feathers a little bit.
- 25:51But then he said it. Was a wild take, he said.
- 25:53It's kind of wild to me still. But again, this is all on the
- 25:58assumption on behalf of Bryce that Dave Dombrowski said that
- 26:02he wasn't an elite player. That's not what he said.
- 26:04And all these Phillies fans that are coming after Dave.
- 26:09Need to understand that. That's not the sentiment here.
- 26:12That wasn't the take away 'cause it wasn't what Dave was saying.
- 26:15And I think Josh, even JB in the corner, fell a little victim to
- 26:22that 'cause he was coming after my guy.
- 26:25I it's. Not it's.
- 26:26Not no, no. You were coming after my guy and
- 26:30I didn't really care for it. However, I'm trying to be trying
- 26:32to be a neutral player here and go after both sides equally.
- 26:39Both sides being the people who took the quote out of context.
- 26:43And Bryce Harper Is that our two sides?
- 26:46Bryce Harper also. Took it also took it out of
- 26:50Well, no, the two sides in this case being Bryce Harper and Dave
- 26:54Dombrowski and saying to to Bryce's point about things need
- 26:57to be kept behind closed doors. If you're Dave Dombrowski, you
- 27:00don't need to be taken. You you don't need to be going
- 27:02public with this stance about well, yeah, like kind of kind of
- 27:06degrading your guy a little bit. Like just go to bat for your
- 27:10player and talk about lack of performance behind closed doors
- 27:15and address things behind closed doors and get your guy ready for
- 27:18the next year. You don't need to go public
- 27:20being like, well, I, I, I don't think granted it wasn't terribly
- 27:23offensive statement. He was just being like, I don't
- 27:25think last year was his his best year.
- 27:27And Bryce even said that. So I don't know.
- 27:29This should have been a this should have been a non story.
- 27:31At the end of the day, I don't know why this got blown out of
- 27:34proportion, but people just chose not to read, I guess.
- 27:37Do you think it's blown? Out of proportion because of the
- 27:40way Bryce Harper reacted to it 'cause even he said on the
- 27:44podcast, like this should be a non story, but it's going to be
- 27:46a story. But yet he keeps talking.
- 27:48He made it a. Story, right?
- 27:50He made it a story. By going to the wild like it's
- 27:53wild. Well, like on more than one
- 27:55occasion. That sounds like it's like.
- 27:59It would be. Wild if he said what you think
- 28:02he said, but he didn't say that. He just said that last year did
- 28:08not fit into the elite category. But Bryce took that as he
- 28:11doesn't think I'm an elite player.
- 28:13Well, she obviously is. And people want to.
- 28:15People want to argue that. People want to dispute that.
- 28:17I don't know why I thought we were.
- 28:19I thought we were over the the whole Bryce Harper's overrated,
- 28:22not elite Hill. But apparently not.
- 28:24Apparently we're going back to that well too.
- 28:27But alas, yeah, you always have. That argument at the beginning
- 28:31of a career and then as the careers getting closer to the
- 28:36end, you never have it during the peak, but you revisit it.
- 28:40You're always going to revisit it.
- 28:41That's that's just how the overrated conversation goes.
- 28:44But how do you not like get? How do you not like, you know?
- 28:48Go talk. For the last three months, how
- 28:51do you not have like a, you know, a meeting and just be
- 28:55like, hey, there's a little misunderstanding here or hey.
- 29:01Hope you don't take what I. Said out of context, which you
- 29:04clearly did. But at the same time.
- 29:07Dave like does not hold punches, no.
- 29:11Bro said. A lot of stuff about Castillanos
- 29:14that was like, yo, right. Like does not hold punches,
- 29:18Dave. Like is there, I know managers
- 29:22can lose a clubhouse. Can general managers, general
- 29:26managers lose a clubhouse? Can they?
- 29:29Because it kind of feels, I don't know, Philly feels off to
- 29:33me. Yeah, I don't like it.
- 29:35It. It just it doesn't feel like the
- 29:40norm. This is.
- 29:43An I don't, I didn't think I'd be asking this going into the
- 29:512026 season, but do we think Bryce Harbour ends his current
- 29:55contract as a Philadelphia Philly?
- 29:58How many years ago I left 6? Like 150 million left six years.
- 30:09Left on this 13330 I'm going to say.
- 30:13No, it's just it's lost. I don't know what's.
- 30:20I don't know how to, I don't know where to pin it.
- 30:22I don't know how to figure it out.
- 30:23I don't know how to express it. It just feels off.
- 30:29Don't. Feel you know the vibes thing
- 30:32only lasts so long. Now that you're not.
- 30:35Winning this window is just as close to being closed as
- 30:42possible. I don't know, just feels off.
- 30:51I'm not getting. The sense from Bryce, I'm not,
- 30:53I'm not getting that whole I would I would die of
- 30:57Philadelphia, Philly, bury me in a Philly's uniform.
- 30:59I haven't been getting that from him for the last year, year and
- 31:02a half. And I've said that.
- 31:04I've said quite a bit of spark. He's lost.
- 31:06There's something. There and I don't know what it
- 31:08is and I'm not I'm not trying to like speculate, but it's it's it
- 31:12couldn't be more obvious it we're not we're not dealing with
- 31:14the same guy that we were dealing with on those deep
- 31:18October runs. This this isn't the same guy and
- 31:21I don't know what it is. I'm, I'm hopeful that they're
- 31:24able to get this ironed out and that he's still somehow able to
- 31:28manifest or, or or, you know, utilize what's transpired this
- 31:34offseason in a way that. Sort of re.
- 31:38Reignites that spark a little bit, but.
- 31:42If not. I don't, I mean, what does this
- 31:46year look like for Philly? I don't know if you if you don't
- 31:49have. If.
- 31:51You don't have Bryce. Sort of, you know.
- 31:54Leading the charge? I don't know.
- 31:59I don't know that getting Cassianos out of there is going
- 32:01to fix that much. I don't know if it's going to
- 32:03course correct that much. But if if.
- 32:07Bryce just isn't there. Mentally, I don't.
- 32:11Those arms can. Only carry you so far or you
- 32:13know what's left of them. Yeah, I don't know kind of over
- 32:19it when that contract. Goes through his age 38 season.
- 32:25He's, he'll be 33 this year and he's, I don't think he's old, I
- 32:28don't think he's done, but I think it's a reasonable question
- 32:32to think he doesn't restructure and defer some money to retire a
- 32:38year or two before that thing's over.
- 32:42If he does get stuck. There, I think he's, yeah, I
- 32:45think he's out. But I don't.
- 32:48I don't. I don't know.
- 32:48Well, yeah, A. 150 million. Dollars.
- 32:55I'm not picking that. Contract up, we're going to have
- 32:57a. Vacancy real soon at first base.
- 33:01Yeah, he needs to be a Yankee. Revive the Revive the career
- 33:08right there. Just.
- 33:10Throw Casey in a freaking blender.
- 33:13I don't know what. I would do.
- 33:15I would legitimately. Do not know what I would do.
- 33:20That's a situation. That I don't even want to think
- 33:22about thinking about having. Nothing awesome.
- 33:29No, I'd hate that. I would hate it.
- 33:32I'd hate it. Another, well, former
- 33:35Philadelphia, Philly, We already mentioned his name.
- 33:37Nick Castillanos released last Thursday is sort of old news,
- 33:40but it's been a week since we recorded, so I wanted to make
- 33:43sure we covered. This has since been signed by
- 33:46the Padres. Phillies obviously haven't
- 33:50released them. We'll cover all 20 million minus
- 33:52the league minimum, which is all the Padres will have to pay.
- 33:58Have old. Nikki C out there.
- 34:02I don't think Padres. Fans are very happy.
- 34:04I saw a lot of comments that were like this is just like.
- 34:07The Eric. Hosmer deal.
- 34:10Like he. The guy has so much swing and
- 34:14miss in his game and is like. I don't see the.
- 34:19Point in forcing him into the lineup?
- 34:20Maybe. I mean, maybe there isn't the
- 34:22need or desire to force him in the line up because you're
- 34:25saying? You're saying Eric Hosmer fit,
- 34:27not the deal? Because obviously the deal was,
- 34:29yeah, like different. Type player is what I'm saying.
- 34:31Like it's just not the name Castellanos has been done for me
- 34:37for a few years now. Like I don't, I don't I've I
- 34:41haven't seen the point I saw. Machado quoted as.
- 34:45And I know it's probably a little tongue in cheek because I
- 34:47think I saw that I was reading it and I think it said he like
- 34:50chuckled or something. So I don't, I don't know how how
- 34:52much he actually believes what he was saying, but he said
- 34:54something to the effect of like, oh, we're getting a getting a
- 34:57$20 million player for pennies on the dollar.
- 35:00He's like, I think that that earns AJ Preler an extension.
- 35:04And I'm like, you're not getting a $20 million player, Manny, and
- 35:09everybody knows that. Yeah, you're getting.
- 35:11A player that that was on a bad contract gas him up though.
- 35:17I guess I. Mean you got no other choice of
- 35:19your Manny. Like that's that's what you got
- 35:21to do. No, I know, I know.
- 35:22I know, but like there's a lot of other other routes.
- 35:25I could have gone with that, but I don't think I was saying.
- 35:28Much. I don't think he brings much to
- 35:29the table anymore. I think it's a better.
- 35:32Fit, you know, destination wise for for his.
- 35:36Attitude. Personality, I was going to say.
- 35:39But sure, if you want to take that route, I guess we could say
- 35:42yeah, which we didn't even talk about the whole presidente in
- 35:46the dugout thing. That's I mean, that's crazy
- 35:49when. You said he doesn't.
- 35:50He don't know what he brings to the table.
- 35:52I almost said, well, sometimes he brings a beer to the
- 35:54sometimes he brings bro. The story said that he brought
- 35:58it into the the dugout in the middle of a game and sat next to
- 36:02Rob Thompson. Like, what do you think is going
- 36:04to happen? Yeah.
- 36:07Like that's. Insane.
- 36:08If you, if you're that desperate for a cold one, just hang out in
- 36:13the tunnel. Just go have it in the like.
- 36:15If you've been benched or whatever, just go hang out in
- 36:17the clubhouse. I don't think it had anything.
- 36:20To do with the cold one, that was a spite move.
- 36:23Yeah, sure. Like to get caught, man.
- 36:26Oh yeah. What?
- 36:26It is. No, I'm not.
- 36:28Saying yeah, yeah, I guess the way I'm talking about it makes
- 36:31it sound like he should have been better at hiding it, which
- 36:34clearly wasn't his goal, but just the.
- 36:41The. Defensiveness that a guy like
- 36:43Nick Cassianos is prone to have in a situation like this.
- 36:45It's like, what do you what did you think was going to be the
- 36:49result of that decision? Like, of course you're going to
- 36:52get called into Dombrowski's office, where I think he and
- 36:55like he, Rob Thompson and Cassianos had a conversation to
- 37:00air the grievances, is what I read.
- 37:03Like, of course you're going to be benched.
- 37:05Of course you're going to be reprimanded like the whole like
- 37:10loosey goose, like I'm just going to be me and and you know,
- 37:15to hell with anybody that disagrees with how I play the
- 37:18game kind of thing that only goes so far.
- 37:20Like if you become a just a nothing more than a distraction,
- 37:24if you're bringing minimal to no value, it's the same thing.
- 37:28I kind of feel like Tristan Costas like he's Bros wearing
- 37:32like a ski mask. Just bring training right now,
- 37:35like during workouts and stuff and they say Tristan.
- 37:38What I mean, this isn't even remotely close to the first
- 37:40thing weird thing that he's done.
- 37:43But they're like, bro, I mean, what are we doing here?
- 37:45What what is this about? And he's like, I'm freezing.
- 37:48It's like 80 degrees, 85° down there.
- 37:51It's like. This bit.
- 37:53Is only funny. If you're.
- 37:57Available and you're good and you haven't been either of those
- 38:01things so. Yeah, just stay.
- 38:05Under the radar, you know, I get that.
- 38:07I don't know. Man, it's slightly different
- 38:10with Castianos, given that he's he's been around the league much
- 38:13longer. Does do you think he.
- 38:15Finishes the year with the Padres.
- 38:18No, me neither. I could.
- 38:20See this. Easily being one of those like,
- 38:22well yeah, team in contention. We'll let's see if we can go
- 38:27get. Squeeze a little bit of.
- 38:30Juice out of it for a deep run, doesn't pan out, sees minimal
- 38:35ABS, that kind of thing. We I think we've seen that
- 38:37before. But you think?
- 38:39Moving him or you think releasing him release.
- 38:42He's just not. I don't think he's very good.
- 38:44I don't. Oh no, I was.
- 38:45Saying like a team would try to snag him at the deadline or
- 38:49something. He does show up in the.
- 38:51Playoffs. You think?
- 38:55Somebody would make a move. I don't think he makes it to
- 38:58the. I don't think.
- 38:58I think by the time the deadline comes around, he's irrelevant.
- 39:03You're saying he's not even? I want he's even going.
- 39:05To be starved by the team. With the league, I guess for
- 39:08that matter, I don't think he. Makes it to May Wow.
- 39:11Oh. Maybe a little Padre like I
- 39:14it's. Just a little wager on that.
- 39:16I don't see. Somebody hoping it's a?
- 39:18Little early I don't. Think he makes it to June?
- 39:20How about that? I just it's.
- 39:27He just. Doesn't, I don't know.
- 39:28He doesn't bring any. He's going to be hitting $1.88
- 39:31and it's like, what are we doing you?
- 39:40I mean, you could be, could be, right?
- 39:42I don't know. Can't can't walk and talk like.
- 39:44Manny Machado and not put up Manny Machado numbers.
- 39:48He's like a wish. Version of Manny Machado.
- 39:50It's like wait. My hand.
- 39:58See ya Nikki. See.
- 39:59Wow. A guy that I think will be
- 40:05employed by his team come June, Zach Gallon, a guy that I'm, I'm
- 40:11really hopeful and optimistic will have a a real bounce back
- 40:15campaign. I frankly, I wanted the socks to
- 40:18pick him up, but I was like, why not?
- 40:20I mean what what is the absolute worst that could happen?
- 40:24But the D backs bring them back for the for just a year.
- 40:29It's one year 22 for those keeping track at Home Point.
- 40:33O $5,000,000 deal the. Exact same.
- 40:37The exact same as as a qualifying.
- 40:40Offer. Yes, that is correct.
- 40:42So. Also by the.
- 40:45Way not. You probably could have guessed,
- 40:48but not the opening day started for the D backs.
- 40:50That was That honor was already given to Merrill Kelly, which
- 40:54would be cool because I think I saw that that's his.
- 40:57That his first opening. Day nod.
- 40:59Pretty cool, I guess yeah. How do we feel?
- 41:07Do you all share in your share in in my optimism for a bounce
- 41:11back for gallon in 2026? I do.
- 41:17Yeah. Or is Nate over I?
- 41:18Think I do. No, I think I do.
- 41:20I I feel like the the like the. Potential.
- 41:25Floor of this rotation without Corbin Burns is very, very low.
- 41:31Think there's some high upside, but I'd be nervous about how low
- 41:35the floor could be. And like I, I, I think Merrill
- 41:38Kelly solid. I'd.
- 41:41I'd never seen him as a one. Than any.
- 41:46Rotation. Now.
- 41:50You have like a what is E rod? Is E rod going to provide
- 41:54anything? You know, is whatever happened,
- 41:57man. Yeah, like is.
- 41:58Ryan Nelson going to kind of take that step.
- 42:01Brandon fought. I think that's the rotation
- 42:03right there without Corbin Burns.
- 42:05But it's but at the same time you get Corbin's Corbin Burns
- 42:09back, move everyone down and then you're like, well, that's
- 42:13not a bad 123 if Zach Allen becomes what Zach Allen used to
- 42:19be. I forgot they picked up.
- 42:21Soroka too. Yeah, Soroka.
- 42:23Too is in the mix there at least.
- 42:24I mean, not that that's at least a fight for a spot.
- 42:27But Tommy John in June though I I is, is Burns coming back this
- 42:32year? I don't think it's still, at
- 42:35least after the break. I think he's right.
- 42:38Yeah, he'll be back. At.
- 42:39Some point, yeah, but at that point.
- 42:41I mean I. Mean if if this.
- 42:43Yeah, you might be out of it with this rotation, aiming for
- 42:46an all. Star break return.
- 42:48See I had this. Conversation the other day when
- 42:50I was when I saw the fact that the deal was for the same exact
- 42:54dollar amount as a qualifying offer, which by the way, maybe a
- 42:59little collusion there. Do the D backs, does the D backs
- 43:01get that draft pick because the technically the qualifying offer
- 43:06wasn't picked up, but or no no no.
- 43:08No, I saw that. I saw that.
- 43:11I think it's a wash. I don't.
- 43:13I don't know if that if because you brought them back.
- 43:17Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 43:19Because it's if he signs elsewhere.
- 43:21Yeah, right. And he didn't tell if he
- 43:23rejects. And signs elsewhere.
- 43:24Gosh, it's only if he signs. Elsewhere, do they?
- 43:26Yeah, but anyway, I was talking. About the other day when I saw
- 43:28that detail and. I thought that.
- 43:33I was like, what, what if they're out of it at that point?
- 43:36And then you got to go back to like two or three weeks left in
- 43:40the year last year and you had. A number of.
- 43:45Teams still in that and a wild card race that like, you know
- 43:51what I mean? Like you look like the Reds were
- 43:53like right there up until a few weeks out and then you like
- 43:58roster for roster. Like you could see the D backs
- 44:01hanging around that long, you know, so I wouldn't say like
- 44:05there's no way they're out. They're still in it by the time
- 44:08Gordon Burns gets back. It's just I'm I'm nervous about
- 44:11how low the floor is for that rotation then.
- 44:15There's names that. Just have to be able to step up
- 44:19and have to survive. And not to mention the Corbin
- 44:22Carroll, you know, ham a bone stuff.
- 44:24It's like, is that going to be an issue all year?
- 44:26Because that is your it's your guy.
- 44:30It's your face. But anyway, I'm with you.
- 44:40I like that. I like Zach Gallon.
- 44:42I would have liked I. Would have liked to see him
- 44:45elsewhere just because sometimes I like seeing like a fresh
- 44:49start, but I don't know it's going to end up just being a.
- 44:56Prove it. Year and.
- 44:59You do end up seeing him elsewhere because I'd, I'd, I'd
- 45:03really think I, I think he'll have a good year this year.
- 45:05I'm hopeful. Because I I feel like.
- 45:09There was a lot of Zach Allen slander with his market and
- 45:12obviously it didn't didn't pan out for him, but I did in the
- 45:17form of a one year deal I guess. But I'm like what?
- 45:21Why weren't more teams just trying to?
- 45:24Take a flyer. Here I don't know, but we shall
- 45:26see. Real quick.
- 45:30Closing the book, got a few items and we'll move quick
- 45:34because I don't want to spend more than a few seconds on this
- 45:37first item here. Jazz Chisholm said that he is
- 45:42the 2nd. Member to.
- 45:46Be of the 5050 club. Nate how?
- 45:54We feel about this quote I. Just be a 2020 guy and hit 280
- 45:59and I'm happy. That's something he's never done
- 46:04I don't need. Well, he was a 30. 30 guy last
- 46:08year. Not 2. 80 though, yeah, no. 2.
- 46:1180 But that's not what we're talking about here.
- 46:13But yeah, I want the. Power to stop being the focal
- 46:16point. You don't need we.
- 46:17We don't need that. That lineup doesn't need you to
- 46:19be that. And you?
- 46:23Can't steal 50 bags if you strike out that much and
- 46:27struggle to get on base that much so.
- 46:32That's tough. Yeah.
- 46:36You were almost traded this off. Like just relax with the false
- 46:40confidence. I mean, I tell you what, when I
- 46:45think of elite players around Major League Baseball, it's one
- 46:49Shohei Otani, and right behind him it's Jazz Chisholm.
- 46:55If he goes out and does it, it'd be awesome.
- 47:00I'd be stoked. Yeah, but I.
- 47:03Don't I think absolutely best case.
- 47:06Scenario realistically what he he put up a 3131 season last
- 47:11year. What do you think he can do best
- 47:13case realistically? In 130 games was.
- 47:20It was it 100? And thirty 130 games.
- 47:22So give me, let's say he's healthy.
- 47:25He gives you 150 games. I'm just going to play devil's
- 47:31advocate just just for the fun of it.
- 47:32OK? Oh boy, He's, he's, he's going
- 47:35to be 28 this year. So I, I mean, I think coming
- 47:38into your power, a guy like him, 28 to 32 should be really that
- 47:43pocket of, of understanding the zone a little bit better.
- 47:46You may be your most powerful years are surrounded right
- 47:49around 30, but age a lot. Of play correlate with power,
- 47:52though it doesn't your way. Build is just limiting.
- 47:55Like limiting to the type of player that you are right the.
- 47:5850 that you know the as the the steel start to to dip though you
- 48:01can you've seen a lot of guys on the other side of 30 come into a
- 48:05lot of power, right. So I'm just saying as he's as
- 48:08he's become a little more of a man gets a little you know, it's
- 48:11a little more meat on his bones. He's he's playing in New York.
- 48:14We know what left center field is there or right center field
- 48:17is there. I'm I'm just trying to lay it
- 48:20out like what is the absolute 150 games?
- 48:26I I don't know. Could he hit I?
- 48:28I might be topping him out at 40 still.
- 48:30What do you think mate? Best case. 40.
- 48:36Yeah, best case 404040 you. Think you'd think Josh is 40.
- 48:41Just no. That's what I'm saying.
- 48:42Give me the full package. What do you think?
- 48:44What do you think? Best case he could he could give
- 48:47you all right 4040. If he did 3030 in 130 games,
- 48:49sure he. Stole 40 bags in 20. 24 So he
- 48:53has done the 40 before, yeah. 4040 is fine, it's I just I
- 48:58don't know it. Just be just.
- 49:03Be quiet and just be normal for a SEC.
- 49:06Just just just be a guy for a. SEC.
- 49:11Be a guy. Mike Shrout is apparently going
- 49:14to be a guy in center field. Again, don't know why.
- 49:20Apparently the report is that he is.
- 49:22He is. Advocating.
- 49:24Moving back to center, claiming that it was a preference thing
- 49:30regarding the toll that the corner versus center took on his
- 49:36body and he was saying he felt like he ran around a lot more
- 49:40and right that right field. Corner we, I remember when we
- 49:44talked about him making that switch and I was like, that's
- 49:47not the right ballpark to do that.
- 49:49Yeah, that right field corner is weird, man.
- 49:52It's like Boston, it's like clunky.
- 49:57Yeah. And and a lot of weird angles.
- 49:59The ball can kind of ricochet in different ways.
- 50:01It's not a predictable right field.
- 50:03It's on a smaller right field. He probably had to cover just as
- 50:07much ground. So it's.
- 50:10Whatever. Might as well.
- 50:11Well, obviously having. More games as a DHII don't know
- 50:15why we're yeah. Why we're not just?
- 50:18Making that the full time role and and stop and just stop
- 50:22altogether dabbling in the center field.
- 50:25Arena. Or outfield arena, I should say,
- 50:28like it just just be done, be done with the with the defensive
- 50:31side of things because you're not going to be you're not going
- 50:34to be a a Gold Glove caliber. You're going to give what I
- 50:38mean, what are the numbers looking like, Josh?
- 50:40I mean, are we talking league average defense at this point in
- 50:42his career? I mean, last year in right field
- 50:46it was. Not.
- 50:49Good, but. Yeah, I mean it's.
- 50:51Not far off he's not. Far.
- 50:54From -3 defensive run saved. You know, you can look at
- 50:59whatever. I don't have outs above average
- 51:00right now in front of me. But like there's been some
- 51:02negatives and some positives for him all through his career.
- 51:05I think it's kind of, I think there's just a baseline of
- 51:09league average for him. There's another.
- 51:12Scenario that we think he's making at the end of this
- 51:14contract, not just as an Angel just just or Los Angeles Angel
- 51:20of Anaheim, CA, LA. Do we think he he's, I mean,
- 51:25he's got five years left? Yeah, there's no way.
- 51:29Mike Trout's making it five years and I, and I love Mike
- 51:32Trout. I I really do. 180. 5 million
- 51:38left on that deal come. On if he wanted to make it to
- 51:43the end of that, he's he has to know that the best chance of
- 51:47doing that. Is just becoming.
- 51:51ADH like enough with the trying to make it work in the outfield.
- 51:57Your body just has not agreed with that decision on the back
- 52:02half of your career. So why fight?
- 52:06It I. Don't know, you could argue
- 52:11that. Like, yeah.
- 52:12Maybe that's kind of what I was thinking, slim down a little
- 52:14bit, like lose a little bit of the of the muscle mass.
- 52:18Not that it helped, but you remember like a couple years ago
- 52:22when Stanton had similar stuff with like the lower half and
- 52:25he's like, I just got to lose some weight.
- 52:28It's it's a heavy body to run around with.
- 52:31He's still He may have gotten slower since then, but he's
- 52:35chunky. The.
- 52:37He's just thick, dude. He's, I don't know.
- 52:40I want I want Trout to finish out his career and I want him to
- 52:44like, I think we can all understand that he's likely
- 52:49going to crawl to the finish line.
- 52:51But like, yeah, there's still the the romance in it.
- 52:55You can still take this. The Angels aren't going to be in
- 53:02a position to do anything for the for the end of this contract
- 53:05anyway. I don't see them.
- 53:08Doing anything? Anytime soon.
- 53:11So there's ways to go about this that can be just done in a
- 53:17custom way just customize it how he needs it do what he needs to
- 53:21do let him DH let him play center.
- 53:26I don't know. Like, I don't know who's to say
- 53:28that that's the the. More risky.
- 53:32Way, you know what I mean, because if you're sitting there
- 53:35on the on the bench for 45 minutes at a time before your
- 53:39next, you know, fast twitch muscles are needing to go it's
- 53:42like maybe you're pulling them a little bit easier that way.
- 53:46So maybe being in the outfield and staying loose and staying
- 53:48warm is helpful. I don't know whatever man, I
- 53:54just want them to to be good. I want, I want, I want us to
- 53:59just enjoy and just watch. I.
- 54:03Wanted them. I wanted them to fill Corbin
- 54:06Carroll's slot on the WBC Team USA roster, but that was instead
- 54:13filled by Roman Anthony. Question or you guys.
- 54:19Bias aside. Here genuine question, is Team
- 54:23USA better? With this.
- 54:28Quote UN quote substitute. I got to be honest, I.
- 54:34Don't fully know Roman Anthony's game.
- 54:37I don't. I'm not.
- 54:39I mean, I'm. I'm not familiar with it, truly
- 54:41not. Trying to take anything away
- 54:42from Corbin Carroll and especially with the year because
- 54:44he had he had a great year last year.
- 54:48But dude, I'm I Josh, I don't know why you're laughing.
- 54:52You don't. The Pirates could only dream of
- 54:54having somebody have to play Roman Anthony's haven't notice,
- 54:57not at all where I was. Going with this, I was just
- 54:59going to say Roman Anthony is an upgrade over Corbin Carroll with
- 55:02a handmade injury. That's all I was thinking.
- 55:07No. Obviously you take the injury
- 55:09out of it. I'm saying in a healthy versus
- 55:12healthy situation, Corbin Carroll, Josh thinks he's all
- 55:16cute. I'm saying in a healthy versus
- 55:20healthy situation and and in defense of Corbin Carroll, you
- 55:24would, you would need to see it play out from Roman Anthony over
- 55:27the course of a full season, maybe 2 to really be able to
- 55:30fully answer this question. But I'm telling you, man.
- 55:35Keep an eye out for. Roman, Anthony.
- 55:38Think a lot of people are. Sleeping on what kind of year
- 55:40this guy is going to be bringing to the table in 2026, which is
- 55:43ultimately why I'm asking, because what we did see from
- 55:46Roman Anthony in in his rookie campaign was fantastic.
- 55:51And it's only going to get better.
- 55:53That's it. Now that's a case you talk about
- 55:56age, talk about coming into power, that kind of thing.
- 55:59That's a guy that I think is going to fill that role or, or
- 56:03fit that description very well. So I'm very excited to see what
- 56:07what this 2026 looks like. But All in all, I guess that
- 56:14means the roster's set. Correct.
- 56:17So are you getting that jersey? No, not that much of A believer
- 56:24yet, no. It's not that I, I thought we
- 56:27talked about this the, the whole like age of guys getting jerseys
- 56:31kind of thing. Bobby Witts.
- 56:33I think at this stage in the game, the only guy younger that
- 56:35I would I would go for. I mean, I have his.
- 56:39Jersey already, but and Roman Anthony's like soon you're not
- 56:44going. To have a choice.
- 56:46No, I just don't be buying jerseys.
- 56:49Wow. It would just be legends at that
- 56:52point. It's kind of what I'm already
- 56:53tired. Legends.
- 56:54Yeah. Retired guys like that.
- 56:55Yeah. I mean, it's kind of what it is.
- 56:58Yeah. It's fair.
- 57:00Sad, that's how much I love. My guy Bobby Witt though, man
- 57:04that I I would break the rule for Bobby Witt.
- 57:08Big Bobby Witt guy. But to answer your question, no,
- 57:10not going to introduce you. He's he's down the list of of
- 57:13guys even on this team, even if I didn't have that role that I
- 57:16would get, I mean, you got Bryce, Bobby, I would even I
- 57:24would. Would I put?
- 57:26Skeens above Roman Anthony a Skeens USA Jersey Would you
- 57:31getting one of those? JB No.
- 57:34No, can't buy jerseys. I've bought a few jerseys in my
- 57:37life. All those guys end up with
- 57:38season ending injuries. I'm done.
- 57:41Oh geez. Done.
- 57:44Do you think that's taking one for the team?
- 57:46By not getting one. Yeah.
- 57:47Can't buy? Jerseys.
- 57:48I'll buy jerseys of retired players if I'm buying a jersey,
- 57:51but I've just become not a jersey guy for that reason.
- 57:54The retired. Guy that he buys a jersey, I was
- 57:57walking down the street and trips into traffic or something.
- 58:00Yeah. But it doesn't hurt anything I'd
- 58:03say. That would probably hurt the guy
- 58:05really significantly. I need examples.
- 58:07Though who are The Who are the jerseys that you've purchased?
- 58:10We'll talk after. You say it no.
- 58:15We have a reason for that anyway.
- 58:17I. Just to put it out there like
- 58:19I'm a Roman Anthony guy, so I don't want that comment that I
- 58:22was joking about to be that I'm down on Roman Anthony and I and
- 58:26I insulted the youth I'm. Insulted that you thought I
- 58:30meant in the in the situation as it is with I was.
- 58:34Laughing because I that's what ran through my head injury it's
- 58:36like. No, obviously I'm saying just if
- 58:39if Corbin Carroll were healthy, would you prefer having Roman
- 58:43Anthony on the team? In that case seen.
- 58:46Enough of him yet. I have which?
- 58:50Is why I'm asking, and I'm not. Well, you've got blinders.
- 58:52On that's that's fair. It's.
- 58:55It's it's 70. Games, it's not we don't know
- 58:59what the what the game is all right.
- 59:02Yeah. But it's there, man.
- 59:04He's a stud. I'm not saying he.
- 59:05Won't be but like. Wash but the team.
- 59:09'S a lot better than if they would have had to put PCA in if
- 59:13now. I would I would take Roman
- 59:15Anthea over PCA. You see what I'm saying?
- 59:17Like. PCA was going to have to slide
- 59:19into that. I would, I, I would like, yeah.
- 59:23I would easily kick out PCA. You're not a big PCA guy, so
- 59:30that's understandable. But objective.
- 59:33I think, I think that's AI think that's a it's a similar more
- 59:35than reasonable take. It's like a similar like.
- 59:39Jazz, it's like you're you're not taking the right approach to
- 59:43your skill set. Play to your skill.
- 59:46Set differently and. Play within your game.
- 59:51Yeah, I. They teach us that in.
- 59:52Little League, I don't. Know I just I don't know, I want
- 59:56the game to change that way and I hope players kind of just.
- 1:00:00Play that way. The Corbin Carroll is the
- 1:00:02perfect example where like he's not trying to hit 30, he'll run
- 1:00:05into 30, which I don't understand.
- 1:00:07I genuinely have not been able to understand that.
- 1:00:10But he is a gap to gap guy, yeah.
- 1:00:12It's just. Let's run.
- 1:00:18Crazy. Going back to our Jersey talk.
- 1:00:19Last item here on closing the book.
- 1:00:22The Tigers released a couple new alternates today.
- 1:00:28A home. Orange alternate with the
- 1:00:30English D in blue and a Navy alternate for the road, which
- 1:00:38will pair obviously, with grey pants with orange Detroit script
- 1:00:43across the front. Both, it appears, will be paired
- 1:00:46with Navy hats with the orange D and an orange brim.
- 1:00:51And I got to say, I'm a big fan. I love them.
- 1:00:54These are so. Is so clean and it sucks.
- 1:00:57I thought they were black. Which, yeah, I saw a lot of.
- 1:01:00People saying that I'm like what?
- 1:01:03Which didn't make sense to me. Black.
- 1:01:05Yeah. The fact that they're Navy, I
- 1:01:07was like, alright, that's it's perfect.
- 1:01:10It sucks. Though, because you have to now
- 1:01:12compete, you have to put these into the runnings, you know, to
- 1:01:16try to get these jerseys some some air time going up against
- 1:01:21the what I think is one of the cleanest uniforms in baseball is
- 1:01:24the the all white home old English D Uni.
- 1:01:29Yeah, I get it. I mean those.
- 1:01:31I feel like those have to be worn every game, but, you know,
- 1:01:33if you're going to put those on the back burner for a handful of
- 1:01:37games, these are these are good options.
- 1:01:39I'm, I'm a big fan of these alternates that they threw out
- 1:01:41there today. Yeah.
- 1:01:43Big fan. Actually it's to.
- 1:01:47Introduce the tiger itself more I'm all for.
- 1:01:52Yeah, which? Was another element to this.
- 1:01:54I'm glad you mentioned that the sleeve on the on the OR the
- 1:01:57patch on the sleeve I should say incorporated that the the best
- 1:02:02in my opinion the best tigers logo was the tiger coming
- 1:02:08through the D, You know which one I'm talking about.
- 1:02:12I'm hoping. That this is maybe a step in
- 1:02:14that direction of like, all right, we're incorporating some
- 1:02:17of our, our, you know, throwback looks or whatever.
- 1:02:23I'm hoping that that logo makes return because that's that's it
- 1:02:27makes. Me, it makes me think of for
- 1:02:28love of the game, doesn't it? When you look at the the grey
- 1:02:32ones especially, you're like, yeah, that makes me makes me
- 1:02:34think of that movie. Yeah, I agree.
- 1:02:37Underrated movie? Yeah, very much so doesn't.
- 1:02:41Get doesn't get the love it deserves.
- 1:02:43Very. Real.
- 1:02:46Baseball. Reenactment in that movie.
- 1:02:51It's normally my big bugaboo Kevin Costner movies.
- 1:02:56Just loves a good baseball. Movie too man shout out John C
- 1:02:59Reilly. Behind the dish, you know.
- 1:03:02Shout him out, yeah. We don't suck, right?
- 1:03:05Now, sadly, I. Haven't seen the movie enough to
- 1:03:09be able to quote it. In fact, I think I've seen it
- 1:03:11maybe twice. Go back, still a good movie.
- 1:03:15You know what? White would like it too.
- 1:03:17It's a love story, basically. I think we watched.
- 1:03:19It, I think we watched it together the first time because
- 1:03:22I got it on, I got it on DVD at one of these like cheap
- 1:03:26bookstores, like $0.25. I'll like, yeah, haven't seen
- 1:03:29it. I'll you got to see if it's got
- 1:03:30one. Of those download codes in it,
- 1:03:33yeah. Yeah.
- 1:03:36Last, sorry, last real item here for closing the book.
- 1:03:39Pat Murphy Within the hour, the news just broke that Pat Murphy
- 1:03:44has signed a three-year contract extension that includes a club
- 1:03:48option for 20/29. Love it.
- 1:03:54Go brew Crew back-to-back. NL Manager of the Year Pat
- 1:03:58Murphy. Good for Pat, good for Brew
- 1:03:59Crew, you would have thought. That the Cubs hired the greatest
- 1:04:03manager in the game, and then he's not even the best in his
- 1:04:06division, hired him away from Milwaukee like this is the
- 1:04:11ultimate. Yeah, Pat.
- 1:04:13Murphy just falls into their lap.
- 1:04:17Oh, he smokes? What?
- 1:04:21What of a turn of events for the Brewers, but good for them.
- 1:04:25No brainer decision, OK. Now you know what time it.
- 1:04:30Is. Sing it, baby.
- 1:04:34Voice of an Angel, this Question of the Week, Ray.
- 1:04:37'S question of the week is who is your favorite non baseball
- 1:04:41athlete and why? Are we going all time or like
- 1:04:45current? I'll go all time.
- 1:04:47I feel like this is we can open up the floor here.
- 1:04:51All right, come. Back to me, I got a couple.
- 1:04:53I had my current. I didn't have my all time.
- 1:04:57No, I'm just saying that. You could go all time if you
- 1:04:59wanted to, but any answer will suffice.
- 1:05:02I got a couple here. It's hard.
- 1:05:03It was hard for me to pick one. I think if I had to pick one,
- 1:05:06I'm going Peyton Manning. Just.
- 1:05:09Love, love Peyton Manning. Love what he brings to the
- 1:05:11table. Both on the field in
- 1:05:13commercials, Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he did.
- 1:05:17He's got it all. Got it all.
- 1:05:19I figured you'd go. That route love me some.
- 1:05:23Peyton Manning and I admit in my in my older years, I chose not
- 1:05:29to buy into the Peyton versus Tom Brady rivalry.
- 1:05:34Like I I equally like at this stage in my life, maybe not when
- 1:05:37I was younger, but I I equally appreciate Tom Brady and what
- 1:05:42he's done. I'll I'll recommend any chance I
- 1:05:44get to watch the Brady. Is it the Brady 5?
- 1:05:48You know that that ESPN doc that they did on him.
- 1:05:52You know what I'm talking about. This was back in I watched the
- 1:05:57Man. In the arena one, yeah, that one
- 1:05:59was. Good or no?
- 1:06:01Sorry. I think it was a was it Brady
- 1:06:03six? Yeah.
- 1:06:04Brady 6 or no, I don't think it was ESPN.
- 1:06:06I think it was actually NFL Films Brady 6.
- 1:06:09If you're looking, if you got a brick wall around you to run
- 1:06:12through and you're looking for something to sort of get the
- 1:06:15ball rolling there, watch the Brady 6.
- 1:06:17Fantastic doc. But yeah.
- 1:06:23And I also threw Conor McGregor in into the mix, but this was
- 1:06:25pre him becoming becoming an just an idiot on certain things.
- 1:06:30Yeah, that guy sucks. Yeah, I mean back.
- 1:06:32When we were in college and he was just like this, this cocky,
- 1:06:36yeah, this cocky guy that could like actually back up what he
- 1:06:39was saying kind of thing. I'm like, I and his story too,
- 1:06:43coming from just absolute nothing over there in Ireland.
- 1:06:45I was like, all right, I, you know, I respect the, the
- 1:06:48showmanship and you know, he does, he does a lot for first
- 1:06:51responders, which obviously near and dear to my heart.
- 1:06:53So I'm like, that's just another element and just, you know, you
- 1:06:57take away the showmanship. He's actually, if you listen,
- 1:07:00I've watched a lot of interviews of his very humble guy.
- 1:07:04Like I know it sounds impossible but truly you take away the.
- 1:07:10The the chains and the. Jackets and all that.
- 1:07:13Very humble guy, but then he he just went off the rails and I
- 1:07:15was like, I, I don't know that I can.
- 1:07:17Yeah, really. Get behind this.
- 1:07:19So yeah. Yeah.
- 1:07:21Drug use is. Pretty crazy.
- 1:07:23The the eras, I think is what you're, you're kind of taking it
- 1:07:27like per era, 'cause I feel like mind changes throughout my life,
- 1:07:31like when I was a kid, when I was a kid, probably Sean Taylor,
- 1:07:40safety for the Redskins was like one of the.
- 1:07:45Coldest human. Beings on a football field like
- 1:07:48that, that Pro Bowl. Hit man just the.
- 1:07:52Fact, I think the punter like got up and wanted to have some
- 1:07:55smoke and then realized who he who hit him and he was like just
- 1:07:59walk to the bench. That clip is seared.
- 1:08:02Into my brain, yeah. Dude, yeah.
- 1:08:07I mean, football wise, like I I could go through stages and when
- 1:08:11I was in high school, going into college, like Tim Tebow.
- 1:08:16I love Tim Tebow. I would say right.
- 1:08:23Now kind of a throw a little curveball, probably Scotty
- 1:08:26Scheffler. Probably my favorite.
- 1:08:28Athlete just super humble and like I don't, he's just like
- 1:08:33relatable, you know what I mean? Just like a normal dude just out
- 1:08:37there preaching the gospel and good Family Guy.
- 1:08:40Like I like him. I would say.
- 1:08:43I would say Scotty Scheffler right now.
- 1:08:46I think if I made a. List of my fifty favorite
- 1:08:51athletes. I wouldn't get out of baseball
- 1:08:53yet, so this was really difficult for me.
- 1:08:56Yeah. I was.
- 1:08:57Thinking maybe and and it is, it's, it is.
- 1:09:00It's a lot of different people. I'm a big Matt Stafford guy.
- 1:09:04As you found out. Recently in Group Did you know?
- 1:09:07That he actually went to the same high school as Clayton
- 1:09:11Gershaw. I knew that.
- 1:09:12Was crazy that was coming I. Just Barry.
- 1:09:15Sanders. I was a big.
- 1:09:18Barry Sanders, Guy Icky Woods back in the day, those those
- 1:09:22running backs were, I know where it was the Icky shuffle.
- 1:09:25The icky shuffle. You were dating.
- 1:09:28Yourself. Yeah, I was.
- 1:09:28Literally. Just about to say you're dating
- 1:09:30yourself a little bit, Josh. He's walking a tightrope game,
- 1:09:35right? Walking a tightrope, Yeah.
- 1:09:38I would put the the the chase a couple years ago.
- 1:09:42I would put Caitlin Clark up there.
- 1:09:45Awesome. Love for?
- 1:09:46Caitlin Clark in there. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:09:48That was a good time. Respect.
- 1:09:51Haven't watched, you know, WNBA stuff, but that college run was
- 1:09:55so much fun. Yeah.
- 1:09:58You want to. Talk about the female side of
- 1:10:01things. And we're in the we're in the
- 1:10:03Olympics right now. Obviously this was summer, but
- 1:10:05the was it oh wait bro, the oh wait Olympics.
- 1:10:11That that. Female gymnastics team Shawn
- 1:10:14Johnson nausea Lukin and that there was one more I had a big
- 1:10:18crush. On that nausea chick.
- 1:10:20Oh yeah, for. Sure who?
- 1:10:21No disrespect. Who was the third one?
- 1:10:23It was Shawn Johnson. Nausea.
- 1:10:27Ally something. Wasn't it?
- 1:10:32Who was the? Yeah, I think it was Chelsea.
- 1:10:36No. Samantha.
- 1:10:38Alicia, Bridget. Sloane, Alicia.
- 1:10:42That's Alicia Sacrimone. Yes.
- 1:10:45Yes, I think that was, I think that's who it was, that trio.
- 1:10:48They were nasty. And that was also the same
- 1:10:51Olympics that Phelps went ham on, too.
- 1:10:57So I was like I was. I was watching something during
- 1:11:01lunch the other day. Was that when the Apollo Ono
- 1:11:05dude for like the speed skater was rolling too?
- 1:11:09Is that the same? Same year maybe?
- 1:11:12The the two things that I think of when I think of O 8 Olympics
- 1:11:17were that gymnastics trio and then the French swim swim team
- 1:11:25throwing shade. What what was the quote?
- 1:11:27He they said he said something about like they'll smoke or
- 1:11:35yeah, they said swimmer Bernard says France will quote smash US
- 1:11:41and that's where they USA had that dramatic comeback at the
- 1:11:46end. And Phelps is like splash in the
- 1:11:49water and he's like, yeah, that's crazy.
- 1:11:51He lives here. I really hope I run into him at
- 1:11:54something. Is he really?
- 1:11:55He's out. There.
- 1:11:56Yeah, he's in Scottsdale. Golf's a lot.
- 1:11:59Too, I don't think I can afford to play on the courses he plays
- 1:12:02on, but you know, let me run into him another situation.
- 1:12:08Where if you got a brick wall around you and you're looking to
- 1:12:10get the ball rolling, watch the watch that relay, that 08 Phelps
- 1:12:14lead relay. Yeah, that's fair.
- 1:12:17Tell you what, I get the juices flowing.
- 1:12:22All right? You got any?
- 1:12:23Basketball guys I threw out. Caitlin Clark.
- 1:12:27Basketball guys, basketball guys.
- 1:12:29That's basketball, girl. I know I've I mean, I've got a
- 1:12:33lot of it's kind of a cop out, but I got a lot of appreciation
- 1:12:37for for MJI. Don't know if you've seen the
- 1:12:42movie Air. That's a fantastic movie.
- 1:12:44My Meredith's sister actually worked on that.
- 1:12:47That's cool. Worked on set which so.
- 1:12:50Sort of a near. And dear to my heart, but a
- 1:12:53great movie. But yeah, man, I I just love any
- 1:12:57of those guys. Brady, Jordan, Tiger Woods, the
- 1:13:00guys that will literally do whatever it almost to a well in
- 1:13:06many of those guys cases to a fault.
- 1:13:09It's it's like. I don't know if I would want to
- 1:13:11aspire to be to that, you know, to be at that level, but I, you
- 1:13:17know, I, I appreciate the, the story, you know, but.
- 1:13:22Like Alan Iverson, probably my favorite one player growing up.
- 1:13:27Great pick. Yeah.
- 1:13:31Good question. Good question, man.
- 1:13:32Yeah, good question, man. Ray.
- 1:13:34Speaking of questions, let's close out with some trivia.
- 1:13:37Josh. Yeah, we talked.
- 1:13:39We talked Bryce Harper. Let's let's find out how elite.
- 1:13:45I'm just kidding. No, obviously Bryce Harper is
- 1:13:48one of the best. I talked to Bryce Harper.
- 1:13:49You slandered. Bryce Harper I did not.
- 1:13:55I remember. Asking you questions mostly.
- 1:13:58When does he stop? Being a young Prince, by the
- 1:14:01way. Oh that's that was so sweet,
- 1:14:06young Prince Way. When?
- 1:14:08He when he actually becomes the king one of my.
- 1:14:11Favorite one of my favorite clips from that All Star trip
- 1:14:13that you and I took is when we're in the, the the MLB shop
- 1:14:17and that bat was signed by him and it was like 10 grand or
- 1:14:20whatever jersey. Yeah.
- 1:14:22Oh, was it the jersey and you paying over to me?
- 1:14:24And I'm just like, still not enough.
- 1:14:27I still believe it. Still still believe it.
- 1:14:30Anyway, Yeah. Let's go.
- 1:14:32OPS plus from the year 2018 through now, OPS or OPS Plus,
- 1:14:39OPS plus, we're going to go OPS plus.
- 1:14:42And what this does is it protects.
- 1:14:47Well, yeah, 2018, we're we're not talking eras really.
- 1:14:52We're we're mostly the same. But either way, can you give me
- 1:14:56the top 10 guys knowing that that Harper either is or is not
- 1:15:02in this? I would start with him.
- 1:15:04Is he in or is he out? He's in.
- 1:15:07He isn't. Come on, Josh.
- 1:15:09He's #7. He's #7 on the list.
- 1:15:14So can we name? The other, The other the rest of
- 1:15:16the top ten list OPS plus since 2018.
- 1:15:21Let's go, judge #1 let's go. Throw Devers in there, no.
- 1:15:29No, no surprising. 28. He wasn't even I.
- 1:15:35Don't even think he was a full time starter in 18 the World
- 1:15:38Series year. That's a good point.
- 1:15:40He was 21 years. Old too, so maybe.
- 1:15:43But the thing about OPS Plus is it really just matters, like
- 1:15:46when you've played right? Yeah.
- 1:15:49No, I know, but I'm. Saying, I don't really think
- 1:15:51Devers blossomed into the player that we know him to be now until
- 1:15:56a little bit later. Like, yeah, he was on that team,
- 1:15:59but he I will give you a. Hint here all of the top ten
- 1:16:03other than one guy. Can go all the way.
- 1:16:07Back to 2018. There is one guy.
- 1:16:12That started in 2019. Shohei's on the list.
- 1:16:17Shohei's number. 5 Manny. Machado Manny is.
- 1:16:23Not in the top 10. All right, I'm done.
- 1:16:25How about a Freddie? Freeman number. 6 Where's Manny?
- 1:16:30Still perfect. 31. Manny is 31 still a 129 OPS plus
- 1:16:34like we're still talking about dudes.
- 1:16:42We've got Judge. Number one, we've got Otani and
- 1:16:45Freeman 5 and 6, Harper 7. Shut my whiteboard.
- 1:16:52Yeah, I thought maybe if. I kept reminding you.
- 1:16:58So we don't have two through. 5 Right now you you.
- 1:17:01Don't have two 3-4 and you need 8910.
- 1:17:05Who's 5? Who's the Five is show?
- 1:17:07Hey. Middle of the pack.
- 1:17:08Here show 567. Is show Hey Freddy Bryce?
- 1:17:13All right. 2 through 4 Opius plus.
- 1:17:23Judge the only. One daughter in this list Acuna.
- 1:17:25On this list, Acuna is number 9141 Sneak nine O 8 OPS let's.
- 1:17:37Go wait, how are we doing? OPS Plus yeah 1. 41 OPS plus
- 1:17:42then I just called out that he had a nine O 8 OPS.
- 1:17:46Let's. Go, let's go, Mike Trout #2.
- 1:17:53165. Let's go.
- 1:18:02Still need 3. 48 and 10 and this is.
- 1:18:06Active. Yes.
- 1:18:10Can you tell? Us what I did not tick.
- 1:18:11That box, but they all are active all the way through 2025.
- 1:18:15Can you tell? Us what place?
- 1:18:20The 20. 19 guy is #3 is. I don't know if I want to.
- 1:18:36Bet my perfect streak on this guy.
- 1:18:40Juan Soto. Juan Soto number.
- 1:18:42Four with a 160, same as Shohei. Oh, let's go.
- 1:18:59Can we go? Pete Alonso?
- 1:19:00Pete Alonso. Not top 10.
- 1:19:03He's #15. Let's go J RAM, J RAM number.
- 1:19:0812A good guess. Yeah.
- 1:19:11All right, well, I lost. My streak.
- 1:19:13So let's go. Is Tatis on this list?
- 1:19:15Tatis is number 13. You're hammering that, that
- 1:19:18group right after that, yeah, there's a couple more in that
- 1:19:21group. One more that I think you'll
- 1:19:23probably guess. And what's the high is a little
- 1:19:25bit surprising. What's the highest slot?
- 1:19:26We're missing right now. Right now you're.
- 1:19:28Missing #3 which is the 2019 guy?
- 1:19:31Oh, right. Number.
- 1:19:33Three, and then you're missing 8 and 10.
- 1:19:36I mean, going back. That far is Stanton on that
- 1:19:38list. Stanton is not.
- 1:19:40On that list. When was his Stanton?
- 1:19:43Is. Well, but he had some.
- 1:19:46Struggle years in there that are going to bring that down, right?
- 1:19:48Because this is 2018 clear through he's #48 on this list
- 1:19:52still. At 1:20. 4 like, you know what I
- 1:19:54mean? We're still talking good hitters
- 1:19:56here. Well, I think it.
- 1:19:58Was 2017, wasn't it? Oh, actually it.
- 1:20:02Might have been that long. Yeah, 2017.
- 1:20:04I know, 59 homers. That pissed me off, man 59, Come
- 1:20:08on. All right, 38 and 9. 3/8 and. 9
- 1:20:14still left. We're missing somebody super
- 1:20:20obvious that that nineteen name. Yeah.
- 1:20:24The the number 8 might be the most obvious.
- 1:20:33Mookie. Mookie number.
- 1:20:35Eight. That is a 143, same as Bryce
- 1:20:39Harper. Same number.
- 1:20:44Of home runs as Bryce Harper so we need 3 and.
- 1:20:47Nine you need. #3 and #10 nine was a cunha #10 has a 140 OPS
- 1:20:55plus he definitely said 3. 8:00 and 9:00.
- 1:20:58Did I OK? That's I think so. 8 and 10,
- 1:21:00yeah. 38 and 10. Who is this three guy?
- 1:21:05Yeah. Since we've gone this far, I
- 1:21:07will say absolutely ruined my fantasy team last year.
- 1:21:16I was one pick. Away from Skeens, left to pick
- 1:21:19this guy and he really let me down.
- 1:21:22I think I traded him. To Nate, which means he called.
- 1:21:29Out, which means he probably. Sent you like a, a, a. $2.00.
- 1:21:34And change Duncan gift card or something in return.
- 1:21:38Yeah, but I think the. Guy that he sent me ended up
- 1:21:40having more points than than this guy because he really just
- 1:21:43kind of let everybody down last year.
- 1:21:45Who the? Heck, who is the dud on?
- 1:21:48My fantasy team trying to go around the league.
- 1:21:56Here this guy had a. 0.7 war last year and only had 48 games
- 1:22:03and 199 plate appearances which tells you how many out of 121 PS
- 1:22:10plus along the way but his other numbers are 1717188.
- 1:22:16Can I ask this? Question are any of the three?
- 1:22:20Names. Left a middle, only two left. 2.
- 1:22:25I thought it you. You got 8.
- 1:22:26Mookie was 8 so you now you just have 3 and 10.
- 1:22:31Oh, right, 3 and 10. Are either of the two a middle
- 1:22:34infielder? No.
- 1:22:36OK. And they both played.
- 1:22:41Together for a minute. 3 and 10 we're.
- 1:22:47Going to get this you are. This show doesn't end.
- 1:22:50Until you do. Show must go on.
- 1:22:56Folks got a long. Commute.
- 1:23:02I mean this is a. This is a guy who's regarded the
- 1:23:04number three guy's a guy who's regarded as one of the game's
- 1:23:07best hitters right now. No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:23:09No, don't give us too many hints.
- 1:23:10Don't, don't. And had it down.
- 1:23:11Here last year don't lead us to the.
- 1:23:12Water don't lead us to the water.
- 1:23:14Someone's. Someone's glaring in our face
- 1:23:17right now. They're not, I think, people.
- 1:23:18See the recording time of these episodes and go, well, it's hour
- 1:23:22and a half, so they probably spent 50 of it on trivia.
- 1:23:27Yeah, I think a lot of. Times when a guy has a down year
- 1:23:29like that, when he's injured and doesn't play a lot, the recency
- 1:23:32maybe gets him out of your head a little.
- 1:23:34Oh my gosh, the number 10 guy, man, We've, we've talked about
- 1:23:38him a lot. So I want to start bringing up.
- 1:23:49Some of the other players in the is the number 10.
- 1:23:52Is the number no? Is the #10A former brave?
- 1:23:59No. OK, I'm.
- 1:24:06Just trying to go round the lead just to throw a couple things.
- 1:24:08Out here in the top 20 #20 is Bobby Witt Junior, Alex Bregman.
- 1:24:13Right above him. Matt Olson, Jordan Alvarez.
- 1:24:20Number. 3 Jordan Alvarez ruined our fantasy league last year.
- 1:24:24Yep. Yep, Yep, Yep.
- 1:24:26That was a big. Fail. #10 that was, that was
- 1:24:31frustrating. So now.
- 1:24:33There was some hints that I gave you about Alvarez along with
- 1:24:36this guy that's number ten that might help you get to your
- 1:24:39number 10. I'm surprised.
- 1:24:43There was it. You won't guess this now, but
- 1:24:45Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker number. 10.
- 1:24:49Hey I I would like. To say like you guys didn't say
- 1:24:51Vlad, I thought I'd hear Vlad. He's he's #14 on the list and
- 1:24:56#11 a guy that I think we forget about Corey Seeger.
- 1:25:00That's. Why I when I said is this a
- 1:25:02middle infielder? I was.
- 1:25:03That was going to be my guess, yeah.
- 1:25:06Yeah, and I. Almost threw that out there when
- 1:25:08you said that, but and feel like going that way.
- 1:25:11But yeah, I mean that kind of mashes. #11. 4/4 of the top.
- 1:25:16Ten since 2018, four of them on the Dodgers.
- 1:25:24Oh boy. Well, I didn't say anything.
- 1:25:26Just pointing that out. Hey that.
- 1:25:29Was you ran a good show. You ran a good show there, Josh.
- 1:25:31That was good. Good clean show.
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- 1:25:38for Tony Clark. Yeah, except for Tony.
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- 1:26:19we get closer to the season, we'll be coming up with new
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- 1:26:24closer to the season, wanted to put a reminder out there for you
- 1:26:27folks. If if you're, which you're
- 1:26:29probably not, but we are. I am at least I won't even speak
- 1:26:33for you guys. I'm keeping track of where we
- 1:26:36are with episodes right now and I've mapped it out that we will
- 1:26:40be at episode 600 for our hot takes and predictions episode,
- 1:26:45so put that. Put that on your.
- 1:26:48Radar every now and then we get we get less.
- 1:26:50That's a 5 hour. Episode we get blessed with.
- 1:26:52A A perfect Crossroad episode like that, Yeah, it's rare, but
- 1:26:56every now and then, yeah, kind of like the whole.
- 1:26:59February perfect for perfect weeks thing like once in every
- 1:27:03800 years. What are you talking about?
- 1:27:06See that? What is the calendar?
- 1:27:09Pull up the calendar right now. It's a perfect Oh, like the.
- 1:27:13It doesn't. That April.
- 1:27:16Crazy. Yeah, it's nice.
- 1:27:19No. March 1st or yeah.
- 1:27:22March 1st would be. Oh yeah, that's.
- 1:27:25That's that's. A thing of beauty.
- 1:27:28I hate that. I now have less than half the
- 1:27:30month to be able to do that talking about.
- 1:27:32February. Not March.
- 1:27:33No February. February said.
- 1:27:36Yeah, clear to. Saturday, February.
- 1:27:39Sorry. Now I only.
- 1:27:41Have, but that was like once in. Every 800 years now I only.
- 1:27:44Have a weekend change to enjoy that.
- 1:27:46Yeah. So like.
- 1:27:47Once in every 600 episodes, it'll be.
- 1:27:52It'll be milestone hot take episode.
- 1:27:54Hot takes. Yeah.
- 1:27:54Wow. So I will.
- 1:27:55Kick off the year, so keep keep that on your radar.
- 1:28:00And be ready. Be be form if you're listening
- 1:28:03or watching. Be formulated in your hot takes.
- 1:28:04Because I will be soliciting takes for that because I love
- 1:28:09putting people on blast. First one with JB.
- 1:28:12Too. I'm real curious.
- 1:28:14Oh yeah. That'll be fun, yeah.
- 1:28:17Yeah, I got to get started. Now it takes some.
- 1:28:21Time it does so we do this. We do this on our side too, but
- 1:28:25they're all specific to the pirates so I think I'll can all
- 1:28:29pirates hot takes for this. Which so like.
- 1:28:33It's like double the work I'm going to have to do here, but I
- 1:28:35love it. That's right.
- 1:28:36Buckle up, bucko. Yeah.
- 1:28:40So that'll be. Fun.
- 1:28:42Yeah, that'll be the minimum 4 hours.
- 1:28:45So that'll be should live stream I.
- 1:28:48Think we will. But think that's an idea I'm
- 1:28:50kicking around. I think we, I think we will.
- 1:28:52Let's. Just do an all.
- 1:28:55Day episode. Just yeah.
- 1:28:57Come pop in the. Chat for a few minutes, catch
- 1:29:01some takes and beyond, beyond your merry way.
- 1:29:03But yeah, keep that on your radar.
- 1:29:05Be be formulating some takes. We'll do.
- 1:29:07Hot takes for every team. Yeah, an.
- 1:29:11Hour, give or take, for every team.
- 1:29:14Yeah, yeah, that'll be easy. Except the twins.
- 1:29:19I'm not doing anything for them that was.
- 1:29:22Unnecessary. You said 6 hour.
- 1:29:25We'll do it. We'll do an hour per division.
- 1:29:27There's teams I'm not. Talking about, I refuse.
- 1:29:30And that way he doesn't have. To talk about, here's a hot take
- 1:29:32Royce. Lewis won't be a twin for long.
- 1:29:35How about that? Here's a hot take as.
- 1:29:39Hot. As hot as it's going.
- 1:29:40To get in Minnesota. Royce Lewis.
- 1:29:42Will at some point hit the shelf.
- 1:29:48No disrespect. I wouldn't.
- 1:29:50I would never wish that on anybody.
- 1:29:52That's hot. That's hot.
- 1:29:53For sure, I would never wish that.
- 1:29:54Upon anybody but it's it's just a sad, sad reality.
- 1:29:58We're just saying fan, let us. Let us know, we'll say it's a
- 1:30:01hangnail. I'll say he'll end up on the
- 1:30:02shelf with a hangnail. OK, Is that fair?
- 1:30:04That's not mean. That's not mean spirited.
- 1:30:08It's not nice spirited any who's.
- 1:30:11That's all I got real quick. Easy.
- 1:30:15Breezy. Episode tonight, boys.
- 1:30:17Well done. Real simple.
- 1:30:19And the shoes. Off of.
- 1:30:20Amazon for the first time. That's.
- 1:30:25And they are fantastic. They're Jordans.
- 1:30:28They're Jordans off of Amazon. I don't know.
- 1:30:31That you're wearing Jordans right now, my friend.
- 1:30:35I mean, I, no, I, I, I, I believe that that's what the
- 1:30:39logo says. But what'd you step in?
- 1:30:41Whether or not. Yeah, what are you?
- 1:30:42What are you doing there, guy? They're so clean.
- 1:30:46Yeah, those are so. Clean.
- 1:30:48I was trying. To see if you'd actually try to
- 1:30:50pull your foot up there and look at the.
- 1:30:54No, he's messing with you. There's nothing on me once.
- 1:30:57Once Upon a time. Hips can't do.
- 1:31:00That no more. I got some water.
- 1:31:04Shoes on Amazon thinking like oh these things are going to suck.
- 1:31:08Great investment, I'm saying. You can wear them on the.
- 1:31:12Flight, like it's a hybrid, like you can wear them in the water,
- 1:31:14but I I also wore them as like walking shoes this past week.
- 1:31:19Because they're easy to. Pack.
- 1:31:20They serve multiple purposes. Amphibious.
- 1:31:24I got the OH. Yeah, man, I was like a lizard
- 1:31:26out there. I I got the I got the plug if
- 1:31:30you need the link. Probably a lot of.
- 1:31:33It's a little place called Amazon.
- 1:31:36I tried to get some. Like slippers?
- 1:31:38No, no, no. Because if you type in water.
- 1:31:40Shoes on Amazon, you're going to get 1,000,000 results.
- 1:31:44And granted, this company is like, I'm not even going to try
- 1:31:47to pronounce it. It's not even a real word.
- 1:31:49It's like some combination of letters that sound like a
- 1:31:52Japanese company. That's definitely not real.
- 1:31:55But I can forward you the link if you need.
- 1:31:57Them can't say I'm in in the market for water shoes.
- 1:32:03Yeah, not too much. I try to stay out of the water.
- 1:32:05Myself, yeah. Yeah, JB is too pasty for that.
- 1:32:10Yes, I got like. 10 minutes on the beach. 10 minutes of like.
- 1:32:16All right guys, I'm going to go play some video games.
- 1:32:18Let me know when the sun goes down.
- 1:32:20I. Was pasty.
- 1:32:21I got a nice, I got a nice little glow about me now.
- 1:32:25It won't last for long though because it's snow piles are
- 1:32:28still out here so that was fun to come back too when I go
- 1:32:31outside. For color, that color is pink.
- 1:32:34That's all I get. It's tough.
- 1:32:38Not a great place for extended sun, yeah?
- 1:32:44Ohio, how bad your summers? Get you get the 100 up there in
- 1:32:49Ohio in the summers occasionally.
- 1:32:52Really. It's like 100 years.
- 1:32:54Owner right now, that's the thing we.
- 1:32:56Get it all. We got. -15 couple weeks ago and
- 1:33:01we'll get maybe 100. Always humid though, so you
- 1:33:08know, at least there's that. It's so tough, dude.
- 1:33:16Yeah. You don't know about the.
- 1:33:17Humidity life out here now it. Was not built for that.
- 1:33:23You were. You were dying in Atlanta, dude.
- 1:33:27I mean, yeah, granted that that was brutal for anybody, but you
- 1:33:30were. That was.
- 1:33:32Disgust like the I've never been to a place that had no breeze
- 1:33:37for three days. Not one breeze.
- 1:33:43Nothing. Just.
- 1:33:44Stagnant air, yeah, that was tough, man, that was.
- 1:33:51Everything sweaty Gooch, everything, everything,
- 1:33:54everything you think about in in Georgia in July it it lived up
- 1:34:01to it. That was insane.
- 1:34:03Anyway, let's get out of here. JB, you got to sign.
- 1:34:08Off yet? Hey I.
- 1:34:10Don't but WBCS coming, you better have it.
- 1:34:13I'm going to give you a. Blood sport quote.
- 1:34:18OK. USA.
- 1:34:20Well done. I'm going to need I'm going to
- 1:34:22need your official sign off by episode 600.
- 1:34:25It's due it's. Due by then that's that's your
- 1:34:28due. Date.
- 1:34:28That's your homework, all right, Hey.
- 1:34:30Put it in the chat. Help me out.
- 1:34:34Yeah, there we go. Yeah, send, send.
- 1:34:36In some outsource that. We'll take some submission.
- 1:34:38No, that's no. No, we'll get some out.
- 1:34:41We'll get some help. But you're not going to just
- 1:34:44take one of them and run with it.
- 1:34:45You maybe you can workshop something based on what somebody
- 1:34:48says, OK. Don't take TLC, that's me.
- 1:34:53Don't go chasing curveballs. Well, that beyond as always,
- 1:34:55looking. Forward to talking more baseball
- 1:34:56with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.