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11-04-26 Hour 1 - Avs fall flat in Columbus/First CFP Rankings are a joke/Does Sean Payton run the ball? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Biggest win of the season for the Columbus Blue Jackets.
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  Speaker 2: Worst loss of the season for the Colorado Avalanche. A
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  Speaker 2: forgettable night on a Tuesday in Ohio. Final score, Blue
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  Speaker 2: Jackets wearing gray, 7, the Avalanche 2.
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  Speaker 3: Pain. That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that stuff's got to stop. We'll talk to that coach,
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  Speaker 4: Jared Bednar, at 9 o'clock this morning. Discuss this, though.
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  Speaker 4: The ups and downs of the Av season. They have
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  Speaker 4: a really difficult time just having a normal game. they're
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  Speaker 4: either on top of the world or they look like
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  Speaker 4: the worst team in the league. And there's really no
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  Speaker 4: in between for this. And I'm just begging them. Can
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  Speaker 4: you guys have a normal bad game and not like
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  Speaker 4: the worst game that you could possibly play?
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  Speaker 5: Like, can, can there be a little in between on this?
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  Speaker 5: Cause that's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it hit the breaking point for coach
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  Speaker 4: last night, which we'll get to in a second, but
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  Speaker 4: good morning, Vic.
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  Speaker 6: They're dramatic is what they are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: One side or the other. That was bad. That was
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  Speaker 6: really bad. And I can't wait to, Talk to Coach.
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  Speaker 6: What time are we talking to Coach Bednar today?
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  Speaker 5: Nine o'clock this morning.
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  Speaker 6: He said several times last night after the game that
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  Speaker 6: he's going to have to make some changes. And changes
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  Speaker 6: are in order. And I'd love to know specifically what
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  Speaker 6: those will be. Because they did not respond accordingly. Needless
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  Speaker 6: to say, that was bad. I don't know where to go.
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  Speaker 6: They had a three game win streak. Things were going
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  Speaker 6: great and they just didn't show up. I know it's
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  Speaker 6: a second game of a back to back and I
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  Speaker 6: wonder how much that had to do with it.
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  Speaker 4: But they're good on those. They've always been good on
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  Speaker 4: those and they never looked like that.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: If that's a one off, I think you can just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, ball it up, throw it in the trash can,
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  Speaker 4: not think about it.
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  Speaker 5: That's happened multiple times this year.
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  Speaker 3: That's.
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  Speaker 4: That's not like some flash in the pan that has
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  Speaker 4: now become a trend that you just, you have nights
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  Speaker 4: where you play very, very, very poorly. And I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: this earlier. I think that Bednar hit his breaking point
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  Speaker 4: on it. Cause he said this.
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  Speaker 7: Cause well, well, we're a fifth of the way through
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  Speaker 7: the year now. So now I have to change my
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  Speaker 7: approach as to what's going, cause like, I feel like
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  Speaker 7: you got to be patient for a little bit in
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  Speaker 7: the season. And yeah, We have been, we've talked about
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  Speaker 7: a lot of things and then we show some promise
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  Speaker 7: and play some good games. And that's the thing. It's hot, cold, hot,
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  Speaker 7: cold right now. So it's about consistency. So now I
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  Speaker 7: have to like sort of change my approach and the
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  Speaker 7: way I handle the inconsistencies.
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  Speaker 3: In our game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's a smart way to go about it.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's early in the year.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Some of these things can happen. Maybe it's just a,
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  Speaker 4: some consistency issues, but it's early. You asked him, I think,
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  Speaker 4: last week, Vic. Hey, as part of this, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this team thinks that, you know, they were just playing
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  Speaker 4: in May of last year. They know they want to
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  Speaker 4: get back to playing in May and June again.
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  Speaker 5: That's a long ways away from October. You're fighting some
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  Speaker 5: of that.
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  Speaker 4: But the point is, that level of play that happens
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  Speaker 4: as often as it has for them is just not
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  Speaker 4: acceptable for a championship-level team.
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  Speaker 5: You have to build good habits.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, what's different about hockey, though, is everybody's
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  Speaker 6: got to play at some point. You can affect ice time,
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  Speaker 6: but everyone... on that bench is playing. It's different than basketball.
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  Speaker 6: A guy can sit at the end of the bench
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  Speaker 6: and never play in a basketball game. So what do
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  Speaker 6: you do to change your approach to handle those inconsistencies?
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  Speaker 6: How do you take away time, players' time, without impacting
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  Speaker 6: the team too much?
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  Speaker 5: Move guys up on lines. Move guys down. Put them in....
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  Speaker 4: This might sound crazy, but you talk about your power play.
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  Speaker 4: I know it was one for three last night.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares?
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  Speaker 4: Like, maybe you're just like, all right, maybe McKinnon doesn't
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  Speaker 4: do this power play. Maybe we don't throw McCarr out
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  Speaker 4: for this one. Maybe we don't put this guy in.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think that all of that is on
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  Speaker 4: the table right now. If you're talking about sending a message. Because, again,
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  Speaker 4: he talks about this is a fifth of the way
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  Speaker 4: through the season.
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  Speaker 7: Like, I expect a little bit of it early in
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  Speaker 7: the season. Like I said, so we've been patient. We've
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  Speaker 7: been going over some things. And then we see a
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  Speaker 7: handful of good games. But this game's showing up too
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  Speaker 7: much for me, right? So there has to be a line.
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  Speaker 7: And now, like I said, we just hit the— We're
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  Speaker 7: 20% through the season. So it's not a small window.
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  Speaker 7: So now we have to meet again and discuss some things.
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  Speaker 7: And I have to change my approaches to distributing ice
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  Speaker 7: time as I see fit with the guys that are
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  Speaker 7: going or not going and just how I operate the
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  Speaker 7: bench because they have to.
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  Speaker 8: Figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's what he's telling you right there, Vic,
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  Speaker 4: is when he talks about distributing ice time as I
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  Speaker 4: see fit, I think he was saying, well, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: We tried to roll with this thing for a while,
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  Speaker 4: and if this is going to be the result, then
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  Speaker 4: I need to make some changes because it's not working.
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  Speaker 5: I'll also tell you this.
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  Speaker 4: You know what could really help in this endeavor is
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  Speaker 4: how about not going down two to nothing every night?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that might help. Not giving up a goal
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  Speaker 4: in the first minute every night might help these things.
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned this.
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  Speaker 4: When you do that against Chicago, guess what, Vic? Chicago stinks.
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  Speaker 4: You can come back and beat Chicago with doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Columbus ain't exactly a world beater, but.
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  Speaker 6: Dude, Columbus was the lowest scoring team in the league
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  Speaker 6: into that game. And they just went off.
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  Speaker 4: But it turns out if you put yourself at a deficit,
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  Speaker 4: it's really hard to overcome it. You know, um, it's
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  Speaker 4: just happening way too frequently. This is a team that
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  Speaker 4: wants to be hoisting a Stanley cup at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the, these kinds of habits that you're building early
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  Speaker 4: in the season are not conducive to that.
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  Speaker 6: To make matters worse last night. And I was watching
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  Speaker 6: the post game show and, Kyle and JML kept talking
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  Speaker 6: about it. You know, is it too early to start
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  Speaker 6: scoreboard watching? They're already doing it. Every other team in
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  Speaker 6: the division ahead of the Avs won on the road
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  Speaker 6: last night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's too early. What did the Avs
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  Speaker 4: do last year, Vic? They didn't lose their fourth regulation loss.
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  Speaker 6: Until January?
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  Speaker 5: Until January.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You put yourself so far ahead of everybody that there
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  Speaker 4: was no chance anybody was going to touch you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, okay. All right.
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  Speaker 6: I want to talk about this. And what did that
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  Speaker 6: get you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it got you home ice in a
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  Speaker 4: really good first couple of rounds of the playoffs until
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  Speaker 4: you fell apart.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: And what did that get you?
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  Speaker 5: No, you're right.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't result in a Stanley Cup. But, Vic, I
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  Speaker 4: would tell you that it gave you confidence. It gave
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  Speaker 4: you consistency.
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  Speaker 6: What's the goal?
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  Speaker 5: To win a Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Maybe the adversity, maybe the... That's the only thing
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  Speaker 6: I could fall back on. You know how it is
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  Speaker 6: in the NHL. You know how it is. There's always
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  Speaker 6: that team that's seeded fourth, fifth, sixth, that suddenly strikes
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  Speaker 6: up and says, here we are.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Vegas did it last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. They caught fire at the right time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: All bets are off when it comes to that. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think there's a correlation. I refuse to believe there's
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  Speaker 6: a correlation between regular season success and playoff success.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's everything, but I do think
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  Speaker 4: it gives you, I don't know, building chemistry and good
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  Speaker 4: habits I think matters.
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  Speaker 6: Great. They had that last year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess, look, there's no way I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to win this argument if it's just going to be like,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't care about winning the argument, but it's,
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  Speaker 4: We can always fall back to, well, you weren't the
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  Speaker 4: last team standing, so what is anything you did matter
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  Speaker 4: last year? I do think there's things that you need
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  Speaker 4: to do in the regular season that get you prepared
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  Speaker 4: properly for the postseason. And then, yeah, sometimes things fall apart,
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  Speaker 4: and then sometimes, like Vegas, bad teams become great teams
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  Speaker 4: out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I think we're a bit spoiled because the year they
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  Speaker 6: did win it in 22, and they dominated in the
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  Speaker 6: regular season, and they dominated in the playoffs. It was
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  Speaker 6: a season of domination.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So now you've got to reinvent yourself. Hey, by the way,
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  Speaker 6: what is it with the former Avalanche players? Everywhere they go,
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  Speaker 6: former Avalanche players sort of bite them.
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  Speaker 5: I know. Val got on the board last night. Charlie
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  Speaker 5: Coyle had two. So we're 20 games through the season, right?
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  Speaker 5: Hold on a second.
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  Speaker 6: They've got a losing record on the road, which, again,
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  Speaker 6: that is, it's weird to see the Avs with a
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  Speaker 6: losing record anywhere. But they're 3-5-0 on the road.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they are just losing, and I think this is
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  Speaker 4: the problem. It's not just losing, Vic. It's how they're losing. Like,
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  Speaker 4: they're getting smashed in some of these games.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like, not even remotely close.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you can turn the game off after, you know,
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  Speaker 4: midway through the second period, not close. So I'm just
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  Speaker 4: trying to look at this. Do you remember what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Why am I blanking on this? Nellie, help me out.
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  Speaker 5: The year that the Avs won the Cup.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to find the record through 20 games. I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to give it to you in a second.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't start off well. At one point, they were 500.
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  Speaker 6: I remember that.
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  Speaker 4: But why were games postponed from December 18th to the
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  Speaker 4: end of the year?
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  Speaker 5: Do you remember this? Why am I blinking on that?
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  Speaker 6: There probably were COVID issues.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, COVID issues. Yeah, you're probably right.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, why?
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  Speaker 6: Why would they? No, they wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Vic, there wasn't.
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  Speaker 6: No, that was 2022. That was after COVID. Well, no,
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  Speaker 6: but in the first.
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  Speaker 5: Late 21.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly. In 2021, remember that they rescheduled games because of COVID.
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  Speaker 5: And then they used the Olympic break in 2022 to
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  Speaker 5: replay those games.
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  Speaker 4: No i'm looking vick i'm looking at on the schedule
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  Speaker 4: from december 18th to december 31st of that year they
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  Speaker 4: were supposed to play tampa detroit buffalo boston vegas dallas
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  Speaker 4: and dallas and all of those games were postponed so
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  Speaker 4: what would be the reason for that why am i
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  Speaker 4: blanking on this why don't why don't i remember this.
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  Speaker 6: Does somebody remember this Is there anybody that remembers this?
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember this either. I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 5: Happening, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 6: Are you sure you're on the right website? Yes.
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  Speaker 5: It's called ESPN.com. I think they're pretty accurate.
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  Speaker 6: Are you sure you're looking at the 2022 Avalanche Championship season?
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I am positive.
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  Speaker 4: This is the 2021-2022 regular season. Raj just said it
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  Speaker 4: was COVID 100%.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. The COVID years are all blank to me.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember what happened.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, through 20% of the season last year.
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  Speaker 5: I remember I did a lot of TikToks. I remember
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  Speaker 5: you did that too.
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  Speaker 6: When somebody says, what do you remember about COVID? My
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  Speaker 6: introduction to TikTok videos with my daughters. What does COVID
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  Speaker 6: mean to you? TikTok?
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  Speaker 4: So through 16 games of that season. The Avs this
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  Speaker 4: year are 9-6-1. What do you think the Avs record the.
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  Speaker 5: Year they won the Cup was through 16 games?
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  Speaker 6: Through 16, I'll say they were 6-5-4.
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  Speaker 3: 10-5-1.
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  Speaker 4: So just a game off from where they were that year.
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  Speaker 4: But again, I think it's the way that you're losing
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  Speaker 4: these games that is a lot different. They didn't have
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  Speaker 4: a 7-2 loss in that stretch.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: These games and the way that the Avs are dropping them,
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  Speaker 4: even the games that are seemingly close on paper for
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  Speaker 4: them this year, some of these losses, you know, one-goal
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  Speaker 4: losses or whatever, it took, like, you know, an extra
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  Speaker 4: attack or goal at the end of the third to
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  Speaker 4: make it that score or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Like, you can just tell. Most of these Ls that.
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  Speaker 4: You're taking, especially on the road, are not games in
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  Speaker 4: which it's, hey, man, you got a bad bounce.
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  Speaker 7: Oopsie.
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  Speaker 6: So that was it.
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  Speaker 4: But Bednar, upset, and I think rightfully after that game,
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  Speaker 4: he'll join us at 9 o'clock this morning, a little
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  Speaker 4: bit later than usual because they got in late last night,
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  Speaker 4: which is also why Mosier's not here.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll get back to this in just a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Again, Jared Bednar at 9 o'clock.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Brett.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I slept yesterday. This is true. This is a fact.
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  Speaker 6: I slept yesterday from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: Woke up.
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  Speaker 6: Had some soup. Went to sleep again. And now I
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  Speaker 6: feel great.
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  Speaker 5: You feel better?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I feel so much better.
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  Speaker 3: Good. It's just sleep, man.
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  Speaker 6: What was it?
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  Speaker 5: Fever and sniffles? What were we working with?
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  Speaker 6: That thing where you get really, really cold, so you
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  Speaker 6: have to go in the bathtub and warm yourself up,
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  Speaker 6: and you have the water, full blast hot water. And
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  Speaker 6: then I went in the sauna, trying to just get
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  Speaker 6: as hot as possible.
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  Speaker 5: I see that.
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  Speaker 6: And get the shivers. Yeah, that's what you got to do.
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  Speaker 5: If you got anything that's going to make you sweat
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  Speaker 5: like that, if you get sick, immediately go in there.
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  Speaker 4: Sweat that thing out. I did this yesterday because we're
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  Speaker 4: at that point in the calendar where it's like, are
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  Speaker 4: we going to turn the heat on yet or not?
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  Speaker 5: And we're holding off. So cold inside my house yesterday
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  Speaker 5: that I had to take a shower.
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  Speaker 6: That's how cold it was. Do you ever get out
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  Speaker 6: of the– let me ask you this. Let's pretend it's
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  Speaker 6: not cold. Do you ever get out of the shower
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  Speaker 6: and start shivering to the point where you have to
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  Speaker 6: get back in the shower?
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  Speaker 3: I've been there. Here's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: I have really bony fingers and toes, and those are
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  Speaker 4: the first things that get freezing cold.
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  Speaker 5: And then once that happens, there's no coming back from it.
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  Speaker 5: There's no coming back. I have to get in the shower.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. It's over.
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  Speaker 5: I've showered twice.
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  Speaker 6: Do you ever start shivering so badly that your teeth
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  Speaker 6: literally feel like they're going to break and you have
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  Speaker 6: to jump back in the shower? Have you ever used
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  Speaker 6: a blow dryer to blow dry your entire body?
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  Speaker 4: I think I can confidently say I don't think I've
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  Speaker 4: ever used a blow dryer in my life.
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  Speaker 6: Not once.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute. Come on. Not once.
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  Speaker 6: Dude, that was my routine in high school. I used
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  Speaker 6: to reserve at least seven minutes for my blow dry
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  Speaker 6: before I went to school.
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  Speaker 4: One of the most annoying things I have to do.
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  Speaker 4: The first time I've ever blow dried anybody's hair was
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  Speaker 4: my daughter's, and I hate doing it.
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  Speaker 6: You don't even know how to use it. It takes
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  Speaker 6: so long. What a shame.
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  Speaker 5: Here's a guarantee, Vic.
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  Speaker 6: How did the, like, the Roman Empire, how did they
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  Speaker 6: survive without blow dryers? How did, in Jesus' times, Jesus
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  Speaker 6: had nice long hair. Peter, all those guys had nice long.
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  Speaker 6: What the hell did they do without blow dryers? How
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  Speaker 6: are you going to blow, I mean, that's some nice locks.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe the salt water helps?
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: 303-504-0925.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: Bednar at 9 o'clock this morning. Stick around.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I do hair and face, neck, left pit, chest, right pit, arm, arm, scrotum.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Hello. And then I step out because I got thin.
• 15:19
  Speaker 8: You know, work the balls. Shower, I step out to
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: the mat, then I do the back with the towel
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: behind the back.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 15:25
  Speaker 8: Butt, butt shake, down the legs, then I hand do
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: each leg and back up, double check on the scrotum.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: What the hell's going on here? Shout out. That's the
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: drying routine of one Scott Hastings.
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: That's a lot of coverage, by the way. That's a
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: big man.
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: That's an extra large jumbo beach towel.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly right. Back up, double check on the scrotum.
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: I do remember one time I was at the gym
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: and I forgot a towel and I used a hand towel.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: I think I used the towels that come out of.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: The bathroom wall. Wait, did you wrap?
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: What do you mean, did I wrap?
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Did you try and wrap the hand towel around it?
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: No.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Just look like a mini skirt?
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: By the way, a good question from a Dexter who asks,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: do you dry off in the shower or out? I
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: do an initial like quick pat down inside so I'm
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: not totally, like, dripping everywhere, and then I step out.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: That's how you have to do it.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: It depends on the temperature. If it's midsummer, you want
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: to get out because it's hot. It all depends on
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: the temperature. By the way, I never get the lower
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: leg area. I don't bother. That'll handle itself.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: The calves and the ankles?
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: There's no reason. That's tough. Gravity gets that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's how gravity works.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Gravity, yeah, it does.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: The water gets to the bottom. You're fine.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you this right now. I'm going to make
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: admission to you guys. Never dried my feet.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Me neither.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Not a single time.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Me neither.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: I will go calves. Never dried my feet. Right.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: I've never washed my feet.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Of course you have.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: It all comes downhill.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: When the shampoo falls off my head, it falls on
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: my feet.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: That's cleaning.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: That's what cleaning is.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Actually, I take it a step further.
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: You're so right about that. What a waste.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Like, Soap.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Shampoo covers all of it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: You don't need the body washes and the this. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: look in my shower. My wife's got 18 bottles sitting
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: in there.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: For what?
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: What are all these doing?
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: And to be honest with you, I'm a 57-year-old man.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: I've never understood what conditioner does. What is a conditioner?
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I just know it makes my hair softer sometimes, which.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know what the hell it does.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Anyway. Hey, Vic.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: We can get this out of the way now if
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: you'd like.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: College football playoff rankings came out.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: You don't want to go there with me. And not
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: because of Notre Dame. I knew they were going to
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: screw Notre Dame. See, what's going on here is I
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: know the inner workings of this. You know my ties, right?
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: But you guys already have a wink, wink, nudge, nudge,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: pinky promise with the committee.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: No, they don't.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: They put them at 11 for a reason. They put
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: them at 11 because of the MOA. They put them
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: at 11 because they know that This week it turned
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: into this week's game a playoff game.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Win and in.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: You guys win this game this week and they're out.
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: They did this on purpose. The committee did this on purpose.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: 100%.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: There's no doubt in my mind. 100%. 60% of the
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: committee members have ties to the SEC.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm not disagreeing with anything that you're saying.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: What I'm about to say you better not disagree with.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I will say this, though.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: That loss to BYU looks a lot worse now that
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: they lost to UCF.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: It does look worse.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I could do that with every team. Correct. Yes. Pick
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: a team and I could do that for you.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Totally fair. Totally fair. Again, I'm with you.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: All right. I'm going to start here. I'm going to
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: start here because it's almost impossible this early to put
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: together a fair list on who's– everyone's going to have
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: an argument.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Everyone's going to have an argument. But the fundamental argument
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: is this. When I hear that redneck go on the
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: air with Rhys Davis, the Arkansas AD, when that redneck
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: goes on the air and says, well, they don't have a.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Hunter, you're a check? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: They don't have.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: What was the term he used about what.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Notre Dame?
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: They don't have a victory, a standard victory or a.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Marquee win or something.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to ask you, The number one team
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: in the country and their schedule. What marquee win.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Do they have?
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't have one, but they're undefeated.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: You know who else is undefeated? UCLA. So why is
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: UCLA so many spots behind them? UCLA's played us. schedule
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: that's just as tough. But.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: But what? UCLA, if they face a team that's capable
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: of scoring like 20 points, are going to lose. That
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: offense is terrible.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: You're speculating. You're speculating.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what this thing is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I think it's the dumbest thing in the world how
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: we do this thing. But yeah, that's what it is.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: So I was already mad when they got to 11.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: And they got to 11 and I saw, okay, all right,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: I know what this is. I know what this is.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: This is the redneck and his friends doing redneck things.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: And so I'm like, okay, all right, now I'm already mad.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: But then they made it very obvious when they put
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: Alabama with two losses at number five. I pretty much,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: I took my remote control. I said, let's find something
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: on Apple TV. Let's just change the channel. What a joke.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: They basically, they gave Alabama a built-in room for error
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: to get into the playoff with three losses. Alabama, listen
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: to this. Alabama's number five. They're in right now. Tennessee
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: is 13. Alabama and Tennessee are both 6-2. Same record.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: Tennessee bludgeoned Alabama 26-10. Please make it make sense. Remember
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: what I told you about losing to a team just head-to-head?
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: So BYU's ahead of Notre Dame. They should be. They
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: beat Notre Dame. They should be. Please explain to me
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: how Tennessee is 13 and Alabama's 5. And I want
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: you to take the rest of this show to explain it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: In the entire three hours.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: It especially makes no sense considering that the losses Tennessee
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: suffered was a loss by a field goal.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: Three points or less. Three points or less.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: To Texas.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And then they lost by a field goal to South Carolina,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: who's also a pretty damn good football team. Now, here's
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: what I'd say regarding all of this. Texas, I think,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: is egregious with them being at seven.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: What have they done exactly?
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: They beat Ohio State, and they beat Tennessee.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Great. Ohio State's not even in it right now.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: But, but, they lost to Oklahoma and Florida, who are
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: 500 football teams.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: That's what I don't get.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: See, and this is why all of this stuff, whenever
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I mention this, can I go on my yearly rant
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: for a second about the college football playoff committee?
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: And, everybody says, don't you love.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: How all the speculation... No, I hate it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I hate it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: You know what I love in the NFL?
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I love that the Carolina Panthers or whoever's going to
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: win the NFC South this year is probably going to
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: be a sub-500 team who's no good, but nobody complains
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: because we know the rules.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: If you win your division, you're in the playoff, right?
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: There has to be a standard of how you're picking
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: teams who are in this club.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: There just has to be.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And at this point in the calendar, it wouldn't matter...
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: But this is why I think you need, if you're
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: going to be one of, how many FBS teams are
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: there now?
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: 140, let's say, I think, somewhere in that ballpark.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: If you're going to be a team that is going
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: to be invited to the most exclusive club of national
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: championship contender, you need to at minimum play in your
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: conference championship game. And there's too many teams on this
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: list that aren't even going to sniff that. They aren't
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: going to be good enough to be top two in
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: their own conference, but they're going to be in the
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: top 12 teams in the country.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: It makes no sense to me.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: What they did, it's very obvious. They gave extreme bias
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: to the two teams that played in the national championship
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: game last year. IU is not deserving of number four
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: in the country. You've watched IU the last three weeks.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: You've watched them.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: You've watched them.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: Give me a break. And somebody on the text line says, Vic,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: what are you talking about? UCLA is not undefeated. Alex
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: writes in. Yeah, they are.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: They are undefeated.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: They're 8-0. They're undefeated. Yes, they are. And so an
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: undefeated team at 8-0 has seven teams in front of them,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: five of which are defeated, two of which have two losses.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: My anger from this first poll, everybody says, well, it's early.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: But don't you guys see that the first poll sets
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: the table for every other poll? It's like preseason rankings.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: It sets the table. It allows room for error. They
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: basically said, Alabama, you have room to lose one more game.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: We'll let you in with three losses. And that's where
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I'm upset. My team excluded. Forget my team. I knew
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: this was going to happen. That was not an issue.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: What is going on with this Alabama love that everyone
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: in the country can see but the CFP committee?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I would literally say if you've lost three games this
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: year in college football, I will put in New Mexico
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: before you get in my playoff.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Explain to me, though, when you saw this and you
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: saw Texas at seven, Alabama at five, both in the
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: top ten with two losses, what did you think to yourself?
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: What did you say to yourself?
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: It's the most predictable thing in the world.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Like, I was not shocked at all. I was obviously
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: not happy with it, but this is what happens. And,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: you know, I know we always talk about, hey, the
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: AP polls don't matter. It's the college football playoff rankings
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: that do. But in your argument, Vic, the AP and
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: coaches polls and stuff like that, that sets the table
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: for this, at least to a certain extent, because what
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: are they based that off of? Oh, well, this team
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: had X amount of top 25 wins, according to who?
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: According to your poll. According to the AP, they have
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: these top 25 wins. I mean, you're basing that off
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: of week one, what writers say that people are, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: then you extend that to now, and now the table's
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: even more set for them moving forward.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Again, when they put that redneck on the air afterwards
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: and Reese is asking them questions, and you could tell
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: that they're all prepared answers. They're prepared answers because they know.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: They know what's coming. There is no answer to why
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: they protect their SEC brethren. There's no answer. It's always
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: some BS spiel. But in the top 10, Georgia lost
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: at home. They're number two in the country. Georgia lost
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: at home to an unranked team. They're number two in
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: the country. I'm going to repeat something to you. Georgia
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: lost at home to an unranked team. They're number two
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: in the country. Alabama has two losses, including a blowout loss.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: They're number five in the country. Texas lost. Lost to
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: crappy-ass Oklahoma with two losses.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And Florida.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: And Florida can't stop anybody.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: And unranked Florida. They're number seven in the country. Somebody, please,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: explain this to me.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Well, here's... And.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Enough with your strength of schedule crap. Somebody just on
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: the Twitch, strength of schedule based on what? Based on
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: what you believe to be the SEC? You're basing your
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: strength on what you think you are.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Been saying it forever. Oh, yeah, but they lost to Florida.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Florida.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Well, one of the answers that he came up with
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: with why Alabama is ranked up there is that he
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: included a win against Mississippi State because at that time
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: they had Camario Taylor as their starting quarterback.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: And so that is now.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: That counts as now like another top 25 win because
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Mississippi State would have been in the top 25 if
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Taylor didn't get hurt. I'm like, this isn't how anybody
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: does the math, okay? That is being very cherry-picky about
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: the way that you want to go about evaluating each one.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Of these teams. He cherry-picks everything. Why is Indiana four?
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Why are they just, oh, their only loss is to
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Ohio State, and it came down to a foot out
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: of bounds. It came down to the final play.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Because my team's only loss came down to the final
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: play on a very controversial call. Did you factor that in?
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Or no?
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Or only the teams you choose to factor in?
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I just think that this model of doing things, it
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: lends itself, and I don't know why college football wants this.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: They do want this. This is the fun in it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: I love the debate. I love it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: This isn't accusing the people who are going to decide, ultimately,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: who has a chance to win a title or not,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: of biases... Which is essentially what?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Cheating.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: It's not fun for the sport.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: Brett, you can't make the committee, 60% of the committee
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: is an SEC committee with SEC ties.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: It's already crap. It's already corrupt. You can't do that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: But this is what I'm saying.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Like, this is why I just think there needs to
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: be set parameters from the pool that you can choose
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: from of teams.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: There has to be.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: There has to be, you have to get X amount
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: of wins or you have to win your conference or
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: be in a conference championship game or do this or
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: do that. Like that's the, that's the pool you need
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: to choose from because if you don't, then you're extending
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: it to, yeah, well this team had three losses, but
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: let's really try and evaluate this team against this team.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: And it's like, how about this Vic? Um, A lot
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: of times they make the argument of something along the
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: lines of this. If these two teams played on a
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: neutral field, who would be the favorite?
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Well, guess what, Vic?
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: If the LA Rams played against a team from the
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: NFC South on a neutral field, would the Rams be favored?
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they'd be favored.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: But guess what? It doesn't matter because the parameters are
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: win your division. And if you can't do that, then
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: you're going to be behind the eight ball.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: It's very simple. Yeah. Well, you know, a lot of
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: you texters are, I mean, 7651, you're a moron. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: could just go one by one on a lot of you.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's fine that you hate my school. I'm
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: used to the hate. It's not about that. It's not
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: about that here. It's about the blatant disregard for the
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: rest of college football. If I'm a UCLA football fan,
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: just work my butt off to get back in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: mix of things our team has been like crap for
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: the last decade yeah we're losing everybody got a new
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: coach a new mission new energy you're eight no Your
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: resume is better than Indiana's resume. Your schedule is twice as,
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: is better than Miami's schedule. Miami hasn't beaten anybody. Miami's
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: ain't no, they beat Wake Forest. Yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Miami hasn't beaten, Miami's won. UCLA is eight. They have
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: the same record. How?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: How?
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: I think it's silly.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: But again, this is, This is what happens every year,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: and this is why I just think that college football
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: needs to have.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: More guardrails on how they go about choosing this. Because
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: you're right.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Having over half of the committee made up of people
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: from one conference is obviously going to be a bias.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: Again, 81-21.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: This is the first ranking. If a listener went on
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: this rant, you'd be calling them a moron. Explain to
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: 81-21 why this matters. Explain, because I'm not going to
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Because once this comes out, and by the way, this
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: isn't like early in the season.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: We're over two-thirds the way through. Like, college football season
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: goes really fast.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Explain to 8121 why this matters, please.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Because now, no matter what happens, if a team in
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: the top 10 loses a football game, they don't drop
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: out of the top 25. They're still going to be
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: in the mix for getting into this playoff. Whereas if
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you're a team that's at number 15 and you lose,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you might drop entirely out and never have a shot
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: of getting sniffing this again. These rankings matter because they're
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: telling you this is where basically the pool of teams
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: that you see right now, those are the only ones
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: that can win a title.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Anybody outside of the top 20 does not have a
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: shot to go in and win a national championship.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: You know what I noticed that the committee doesn't factor?
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: They factor losses. They factor strength of schedule or perceived.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: I call it perceived schedule because it's perceived. It's what
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: they think is a tough schedule. Like I'm looking, oh, well,
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: look at Texas' schedule. Based on what? What the committee
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: thinks is a tough schedule?
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: So perceived schedule. You know what they don't factor in?
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: What do you lose by? Are they close losses? Do
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: they come down in the final minute? Do you have
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: a chance to win at the buzzer, if not for
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: a bad call?
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Or.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Do you lose 26-10 and you're never in the game? Right.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: So which loss is worse? Which loss should be penalized more?
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Losing 26-10, getting blasted, or at the buzzer in controversial fashion?
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Why is that not factored in? I agree.
• 32:32
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• 32:33
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• 32:40
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• 32:43
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• 32:46
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• 32:52
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• 32:54
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  Speaker 4: It's Thursday night football tomorrow night at number 38. DMACC
• 32:57
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• 33:00
  Speaker 4: new quarterback. Who's this Italian man, Vic? Joe Fagnano. Come
• 33:07
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• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football at number 38. By the way, I
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: just got news, well, saw news from Adam Schefter that
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is obviously out indefinitely for Baltimore. Their backup quarterback,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Snoop Huntley, Tyler Huntley, he's out for the year with
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: turf toe.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: And I think we've talked about this before.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I don't like the name of that injury for turf
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: toe because I've had it before. It is so remarkably
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: painful that turf toe does not do it justice. It
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: sounds like you stubbed your toe or something.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's the worst.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: It doesn't leave.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: If your toe doesn't work, the big toe... The big
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: toe does everything. Yeah, you're done.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: You can't walk on your big toe for, like, multiple months.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: It's crazy.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Like, have you ever had that, Vic, and tried to
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: stop really fast?
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's the worst. So, um.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Joe Fagnano will be the starter moving forward for the
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens unless something changes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: A couple things here, Vic. I just saw some numbers.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on this. Because the
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Denver Broncos have a statistic, as we've said. Stats with
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: the Broncos don't make sense.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Nothing about them computes or adds up to a team
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: that is 6-2 against some of the toughest teams, the.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Toughest schedule that the league had to offer you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: Well, stats are for losers.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: I've heard that before.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: The Denver Broncos have been outgained by 658 yards this season.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: That's 30th in the NFL and the second worst differential
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: through Week 8 this century.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Yet they're 6-2. But here's one more number for you.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: The worst yards per game differential for a team with
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: six or more wins in the first eight games since 1939...
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: The Denver Broncos are number one in that category at
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: negative 82 yards per game is their differential. The next
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: closest team is the 2010 Patriots, who were 20 yards
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: better than that. That's how much, as far as yards go,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: the Broncos are being dominated in that category.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: It makes no sense. There's no reason trying to make
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: sense of this. Because it's nonsensical.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Which brings me to the next point of order here.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Stats are for losers. Thank you.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: The next thing is, well, how do you fix that?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Because it's fine. You're winning football games. It's still working ultimately.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what the fix isn't. The fix
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: isn't that Bo Nix starts playing at a really high level.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: We're halfway through the year. I think you just kind
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: of got what you got. I think it can get
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: marginally better. I think in the last couple of weeks...
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: The offense has taken baby steps forward. The easiest way
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: to help this is by finding a running back because
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: there is not a two-party system when you run the football.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: There is not, well, this guy has to get it
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: to this guy. You hand the ball off. And that's
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: why I think it is so important to go out
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: and make a move of some sort before this trade deadline.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Rumors are that the Broncos are being very aggressive on
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: the Jonathan Taylor front.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: They should be.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: You know, we keep talking about Jonathan Taylor. Again, there
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: are other running backs that could be available.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Anybody.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I think you just need to find some way to
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: help as much as you can. So, yeah, I mean,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: we were just talking about this in the appetizer, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Braylon Allen is playing so well in New York that
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I think it makes Brees Hall expendable.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: So maybe you can go that route.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: The point is, you know, I keep hearing this, too,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: and I want to nip this in the bud. Texter
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: wrote in the appetizer, just because you go out and
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: get Jonathan Taylor or another running back doesn't mean that
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton starts running the football. And I went back
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: and looked. Last year, the Denver Broncos with a healthy J.K.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Dobbins through 10 games, he had 153 carries through 10 games.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: That's on pace for like 240 carries in a season.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It's a very high number. Like, that's not an insignificant
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: not giving the ball to my running back number. That's
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: a lot, actually. Then he went down with the injury,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: and I just think that he didn't like what he
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: had with R.J. Harvey or Jaleel McLaughlin or Tyler Bidet
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: behind him. Now, Jonah Coleman helps this because I think
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: he is trustworthy, but if you get Jonathan Taylor here,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I think you run the football a lot.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, a lot.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: There is some value to what that texter wrote, though, because...
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Wanting to run the football and being able to run
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: the football are two entirely different things. I have to
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: be sold on this team being able to run as
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: a unit, as a machine. Like we have seen when
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: the Broncos won back-to-back Super Bowls, that was a machine
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: running the ball. And it continued to be a machine.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: Terrell Davis, the Hall of Famer, as great as he
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: is and was, he's a Hall of Famer. Guess what
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: happened after Terrell Davis left and they put other running
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: backs back there in that machine? The machine kept going.
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: All the running backs had 1,000-yard seasons.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Tatum Bell, Mike Anderson, yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, one after another. It was a running machine, okay?
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: That's what they did. That's what it did. This is not.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Here's my argument, though. Through 10 games last year, J.K.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Dobbins had damn near 800 yards.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: Would you call that... You watch the games. What would
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: you call that?
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: I think that was a totally fine and decent rushing attack.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: Last year.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Last year it was. This year it's not.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: I disagree. I don't remember last year early in the
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: season going, oh, my God, the Broncos are a running team.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: That's not.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Vic, J.K.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Dobbins was a top five rusher in the league last year.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: I don't. Great. You look at the numbers. You're asking
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: me to recollect what it felt like. No, J.K.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Dobbins was not B. John Robinson. And he was not
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Jameer Gibbs. And he was not, you know, those types
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: of guys. That's not the eye test.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: No.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: But from a straight numbers perspective, they ran the football effectively.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: And I think the commitment to running it is directly
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: tied to that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Because here's what happens.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: This is a fact.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton, if the passing game is not working, will
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: stick with the passing game. Because it's what he knows
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and what he feels.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Trusts. Even with a quarterback who's struggling.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Well, what I think it is, too, and I'm sorry
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: to interrupt you. It's not just a passing game. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: believe those short passes, in his eyes, that's just a run.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: That's just a run. That's another way to hand the
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: ball off. And the Broncos throw so many passes behind
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage or parallel to the line of scrimmage.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: That's just another way to run the ball.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just looking at the numbers like this, there's
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: a narrative that surrounds Sean Payton that has been here
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: since he's gotten here, and he has struggled to commit
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: to the running game.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: We've talked about it over and over again.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I've always maintained that I think that is more of
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: him not trusting his running backs, not thinking they're good enough.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: The last year that he had New Orleans, he had
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara. He ran him 240 times that year. 240.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: There's not a lot of backs who get 240 carries
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: in the league anymore.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Except for the really special ones.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: What impact do you think Sunday's game might have in
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: the Broncos being aggressive or more aggressive at the deadline?
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: What if Jonah Coleman just shines? What if they go
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: into Carolina and they give him the ball? Somebody asked me,
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: are they going to give him the ball 20 times?
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Hell no.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Good luck getting it 20 times. Yeah. Let's say he
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: gets it 15 times and he rushes for 100 yards
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: or 120. Will that change their approach to this?
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: It better not. Because, Vic, what happens if he gets hurt?
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: You're right back in.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: The same spot you were last year when Dobbins went down. Oh,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: now we don't trust anybody. Because think about who's in
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: your backfield right now. They're going off and signing guys
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: off the street to their practice squad.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Because Cody Schrader's active on game day. Because Bidet is out,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: and R.J. Harvey's out, and J.K. Dobbins looks like he's done. Like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: you have one running back right now that you trust.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: What happened to Bidet? He was hurt a few games ago,
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: and I can't remember what it was.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I can't remember the injury, but he was put on
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: IR really quick. He suffered a broken thumb. So, yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: he'll be back. But, again, Jonah Coleman was supposed to
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: be J.K. Dobbins insurance in case he got hurt. He
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: was not supposed to be better than J.K. Dobbins because J.K.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Dobbins can't run the football anymore. Like that's not, whatever
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: you thought about J.K. heading into this year, it was
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: not that J.K. Dobbins just couldn't play the sport anymore.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: It was that he was going to go down with
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: an injury. But now it looks like even when he's healthy,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: he's not going to be effective. You need to go
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: out and find somebody. You need to have, and Sean
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Payton does this all the time, he will run three
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: backs every single game.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: But they're starting to drop like flies here. I don't
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: think Sunday should have.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: If Jonah Coleman runs for 250 yards, I'm still trading
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: for a running back because you need to have that
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: depth in case he goes down.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Oh, come on. Now you're being a little foolish.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: You have one back right now.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: But I mean, you're going to take a running back
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: who ran for 250 yards and say, all right, you're
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: on the bench behind Jonathan Taylor.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Doesn't mean you have to go on the bench.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: He can still get 12 carries a game with two
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: other guys.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: You're going to trade half of your draft class for
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor and not start him?
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I don't care who starts the game. Like, just get
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: both guys carries. Hang on, hang on.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears have a pretty good offense and a
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: damn good quarterback, right?
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: They have two running backs when he's healthy and Kyle
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Menungai has been hurt lately. But they will run DeAndre
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Swift 15 times. They'll run Menungai 15 times. And they'll
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: still throw the football with Caleb Williams. Like, you can
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: never have too many backs because the backs can all
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: be used in different ways.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: And I think that Jonah Coleman shows a lot of
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: promise and I would love for him to be a
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: guy who gets 13 to 15 carries a game.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I think you have room for another one. I think
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: ideally this.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Broncos offense with the way that Bo Nix is playing,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: that's probably the way they got to do business. Asking
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: him to throw the football 35 times is not a
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: good recipe right now. So yeah, I think that they
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: should still be very aggressive, hyper-aggressive in that market.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Dude, did you watch? Speaking of football. This Mac football
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: that they throw on Tuesday nights is actually pretty fun
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: to watch.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's Tuesday night college football.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: The Mac is excellent at just being like, you got
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: nothing else going on.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: The Mac is basically saying, the Mac, for those of
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: you that don't want to watch election results and all that,
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: and it's just a Tuesday night in your house, here
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: we go. We're going to line it up for you.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Tell you what, the Ohio Bobcats, always just crushing it. They're...
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: undefeated in the MAAC again. But those teams, they put
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: up points, man.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: They score.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: We're here to put up 40 and give up 35.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: That's what we're here to do on your Tuesday night.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: So tune in.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: 303-504-0925.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: So again, most weeks Bednar joins us at 8 o'clock
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: on Wednesdays. They got in late last night. He's going
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: to be an hour later. He'll be at 9 o'clock
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: this morning.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: So let me get this straight. Bednar has the wherewithal
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: to wake up and do the radio show. But our
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: co-host cannot manage that.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, I got to share something with you.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Who told you that?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: That you know, Vic, but with the audience.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: So we get a text two days ago from Mark Mosher.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: And we have told Mosher this year because we have
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: told him over and over again, Mosher, if you're getting
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: in at 3 o'clock in the morning, just take the
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: day off. You don't need to kill yourself to get up,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: you know, after two hours of sleep.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: Because he works his butt off and it's a tough
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: turnaround and I agree wholeheartedly with that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: And this is a real conversation we had with Mosher
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: multiple times. Like, dude, take care of yourself, okay? But
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: when Mosher texts us a couple days ago, and he
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: says this, Dudes, I think I'll need Wednesday off. Coming
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: straight home from Columbus. Headwind gonna be hellish.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: He's talking headwinds?
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: He's dropping headwinds.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: On us on a Monday. Saying, I already know What
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: is the point of that detail, though? All he needs
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: to say is, I'm getting in late.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: I need the day off. And what would we say?
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: We'd say, cool.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: When someone goes into that extra detail, there's a lie
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: blanketed in there somewhere. There's something.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: When you get really specific, there's like, why did you
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: show up late? Well, there was a jackknife accident on 470.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: And then when I got off the on-ramp on the
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: off-ramp on Parker Road, Parker was shut down for.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: We'll find out. We'll ask Coach Bednar exactly what time
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: they touched down last night.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll find out. And he's going to say midnight.
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  Speaker 4: So Bednar joins us at 9 o'clock. November is Hockey
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  Speaker 4: Fights Cancer Month. During the month of November, schedule a
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  Speaker 4: blood donation at any Vitalant Donation Center or Blood Drive
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  Speaker 4: using the Colorado Avalanche Virtual Blood Drive. Link everyone who donates.
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  Speaker 4: has a chance to win a team-signed stick or a
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  Speaker 4: Josh Manson-signed stick. So go to vitalant.org slash hockeyfightscancer for
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  Speaker 4: more info and to schedule that blood donation today, as
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  Speaker 4: we know. These blood donations, a massive percentage of that
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  Speaker 4: is used directly in people's fights against cancer. So get
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  Speaker 4: signed up vitalant.org slash hockeyfightscancer today.