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Ben's “Spies” Dish All about Mercedes Date · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: iHeart podcasts. Bring you the ultimate Summer of love Tree.
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  Speaker 1: This is famously available. Hey, everybody's famously available. I have
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  Speaker 1: two famously available ladies co hosting with me today. They're amazing,
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  Speaker 1: They're fantastic. That's why they're famously available and doing this
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  Speaker 1: podcast with me. We're here today because they were some
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  Speaker 1: of the spies during Mercedes and Bryce's date at jingle Ball.
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  Speaker 2: Now I have already talked to Bryce.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know any behind the scenes of this date,
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  Speaker 1: and so today I'm bringing Deanna and Kathy here on
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  Speaker 1: to really tell me about the date from their perspective,
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  Speaker 1: what they saw, what they.
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  Speaker 2: Know, what went good, will went bad?
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  Speaker 1: Catch us up. And here's the fun part about this show.
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  Speaker 1: I think we get mercedes perspective, we get Bryce's perspective,
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  Speaker 1: we also get spot perspectives, and so somewhere in the
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  Speaker 1: middle is going to be the truth. But everybody's truth counts.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, ladies, let's kick this off. Dean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to start with you tell us kind of I
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  Speaker 1: guess before I kind of talk about what Bryce took
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  Speaker 1: talked about. I would love to hear your conversations with
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  Speaker 1: Bryce and Mercedes before the date started, What were you
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  Speaker 1: excited about? What were you thinking could happen? Kind of
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  Speaker 1: that pre interview that you did that we can all
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  Speaker 1: listen to.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I've actually been really looking forward to this. I
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  Speaker 3: joked with Bryce that he thought he was just going
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  Speaker 3: on a date with Mercedes, but truth be told, he
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  Speaker 3: was going on a date with Mercedes, Me, Kathy, like
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  Speaker 3: dozens of other people, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 3: I listen, thanks so much for letting me be a
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  Speaker 3: part of their initial like dating. I so so enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: getting to interview him and kind of lay up what
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  Speaker 3: he was walking into. And I don't know, Ben, but
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  Speaker 3: I kind of let Bryce have it. I didn't let
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  Speaker 3: him like, I didn't make it this like gentle, smooth
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  Speaker 3: transition for him. I kind of let him have it
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  Speaker 3: before he got to meet Mercedes, and I joked with
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  Speaker 3: him and I laughed a lot. I'm not sure Bryce
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  Speaker 3: thought I was as funny as I thought I was,
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  Speaker 3: But listen, I had a great time. But what I
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  Speaker 3: want to say is what a unique experience to be
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  Speaker 3: sitting in the room when Mercedes walked in and to
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  Speaker 3: have eyes on the two of them the very first
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  Speaker 3: time that they got to meet. It's like one of
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  Speaker 3: my favorite things about weddings too, you know what I
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  Speaker 3: mean when you see the bride walk up and you
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  Speaker 3: see the groom and he's crying and he's in love
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  Speaker 3: and he's you know, it was the same situation because
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  Speaker 3: I Mercedes and I rode to the studio together, so
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  Speaker 3: we had the opportunity to talk, and she was a
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  Speaker 3: little nervous and she was excited, and then she got
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  Speaker 3: to stand outside of the door and be there for
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  Speaker 3: the twenty minutes I got to interview Bryce, and probably
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  Speaker 3: her nerves and stuff were just adding up. And what
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  Speaker 3: a fun experience to see her come into the room
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  Speaker 3: because you know, you're expecting them to be like blown away,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Kathy, you know, because you got to see
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  Speaker 3: him too and take a look at him and see
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  Speaker 3: his looks, his physical appearance. But I think he was
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  Speaker 3: a good looking guy. And Mercedes, we know, is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 3: But how fun it was to sit in the room
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  Speaker 3: and kind of see her come in because there's a
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  Speaker 3: piece where she's trying to play it cool too. You know,
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't want to be like off the bat, like
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  Speaker 3: ooh he's ugly or oh damn, he's so hot, but
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  Speaker 3: she's playing it cool. But also she's super nervous and
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  Speaker 3: she's excited too, and he tried to claim he wasn't nervous,
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  Speaker 3: but like we all where, we all know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I want to know what did you think when
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  Speaker 4: you saw her lay eyes on him? Because clearly you've
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  Speaker 4: got to see him first. So what was your take
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  Speaker 4: when you saw her meet? How did she look?
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  Speaker 3: I thought initially they were both trying to play it cool.
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  Speaker 3: And I think actually when we were recording, I made
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  Speaker 3: this little note because you could see the progression. As
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  Speaker 3: an outsider, you could see the progression as the interview
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  Speaker 3: went on, like they were a little too scared to
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  Speaker 3: make eye contacts. They didn't look at each other too much,
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  Speaker 3: but they both wanted to like check each other out.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to look at their physical appearance. It is
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  Speaker 3: important to have that initial attraction. But as the interview
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  Speaker 3: went on, they started to look at each other a
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  Speaker 3: little longer, the eye contact was stronger, They started to
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  Speaker 3: comment on each other's physical appearance. I just was like,
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  Speaker 3: how cool to like sit in that situation and get
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  Speaker 3: to see the two of them really take each other in.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that initial traction was there that I
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  Speaker 3: think that, well, I don't think. Oh no, he found
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  Speaker 3: her attractive off the bat, like he made that perfectly clear.
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  Speaker 3: I heard him within the first couple of minutes say, wow,
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  Speaker 3: holy crap, like you're so my type. You are stunning,
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  Speaker 3: Like he was captivated with her physical appearance, because she's
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  Speaker 3: gorgeous obviously, but it was funny to see her too
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  Speaker 3: loosen up because she was nervous. Who wouldn't be. But
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  Speaker 3: it was fun to see her loosen up too because
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  Speaker 3: as someone who is available, Kathy, eye contact is very
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  Speaker 3: important to me, and I could see the two of
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  Speaker 3: them start to pay attention to each other a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more and hold eye contact a little bit more,
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  Speaker 3: and really actively listen to each other and try to
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  Speaker 3: comment on each other. It just was the nerves were off,
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  Speaker 3: and then you got to see the natural progression of
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  Speaker 3: what a date really looks like.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Kathy, for you, you weren't there for that first moment,
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  Speaker 1: but we had talked with Mercedes before the date started,
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  Speaker 1: so you did have an idea of what she was
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  Speaker 1: wanting and expecting. Give us your kind of initial interpretation
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  Speaker 1: or feelings when you saw the two of them together
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  Speaker 1: for the first time.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well that's where the humor began for me, because
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  Speaker 4: I kept trying to find them. I was up in
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  Speaker 4: the suite and I said, where's Mercedes. She just went downstairs.
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  Speaker 4: Literally we were when I was downstairs, she was upstairs.
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  Speaker 4: So finally I decided to stay put waited till they
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  Speaker 4: came in, and, of course, shy person that I am,
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  Speaker 4: I went right up to him and I said, so,
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  Speaker 4: I'm mercedes mother, and he kind of looked at me
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  Speaker 4: and I said, not really, but for tonight, yes I am.
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  Speaker 4: And so tell me about you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I started peppering them with questions and it was so funny.
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  Speaker 4: The first thing he said was, well, she's so beautiful,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm just I said, so, what are you looking for?
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  Speaker 4: And he said, well, I'm really just I'm looking for
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  Speaker 4: a beautiful woman. I said, oh, do you want to
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  Speaker 4: date me? And it just completely put him off, Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just kidding. He said that It was
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  Speaker 4: interesting though, because anyone who knows me, I'm I go
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  Speaker 4: right in like, okay, I'm just gonna I'm the spy here,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm also you know, the attorney, the opposing council
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  Speaker 4: and I'm just going in. And so I asked him
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  Speaker 4: what he was looking for, and he said a beautiful woman,
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  Speaker 4: which you know doesn't really narrow the field, but as
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  Speaker 4: you said, Dianna, Mercedes is stunning. And then he said
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  Speaker 4: something about his parents had just moved to Florida from
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  Speaker 4: Kansas and they wanted him to get married and have
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  Speaker 4: a couple of kids, and he thought he should do that,
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  Speaker 4: but he didn't know how it was going to work
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  Speaker 4: out because she was in that because Mercedes lives in
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  Speaker 4: Nashville and he lives in California. So I said, as
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  Speaker 4: any logical person would, Oh, so you're not interested in
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  Speaker 4: dating someone long distance? Oh no, I'm open to that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm open to that.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And so I said, oh, and he said, in fact,
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  Speaker 4: you know I'm going to I'm going to go to
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  Speaker 4: Nashville and see her. I you know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: go and see where this goes. So I'm thinking everybody's
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  Speaker 4: hitting it off until I talked to Mercedes.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I think that we should start off by giving
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  Speaker 3: Bryce some credit. Okay, it is a lot to ask
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  Speaker 3: someone to go on a podcast, let alone television or
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  Speaker 3: anything else and put himself out there. So like, let's
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  Speaker 3: give him some credit. He went into this completely blind,
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  Speaker 3: and not only was he not just going on a
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  Speaker 3: date alone with Mercedes, he had to deal with everyone
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  Speaker 3: else involved.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know, did he seem nervous because he didn't.
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  Speaker 4: To me, Diana, he didn't seem he seemed just go
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  Speaker 4: with the flow kind of guy.
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  Speaker 3: In the group setting. Once we got to the concert,
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  Speaker 3: I think he did a really great job. But I
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  Speaker 3: would say that when we interviewed him in the studio
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  Speaker 3: before he met Mercedes, he was he was a little nervous,
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  Speaker 3: Like he was like, Hey, I'm super confident. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you have to say you're confident. I'm
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  Speaker 3: so sure you're super confident. But who would not be nervous.
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  Speaker 3: I am giving this young man some grace and listen
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  Speaker 3: when you hear the interview. I maybe I'm an asshole.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I really gave it to Bryce. I didn't let him
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  Speaker 3: cut any I didn't let him give me schmoozy answers.
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  Speaker 3: I really asked him some challenging things, and I made
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  Speaker 3: him laugh a little, trying to loosen him up. I
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  Speaker 3: think it only got awkward when I asked him about
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  Speaker 3: if he was going to kiss her that night, and
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  Speaker 3: then I told him when he did, it's only weird
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  Speaker 3: if I lean in too. So poor Bryce, Poor poor Bryce.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a few things I did
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  Speaker 1: just get to talk to Bryce.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to be clear here.
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  Speaker 1: We got to give him the benefit of the doubt,
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  Speaker 1: because it is a weird situation at every level. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting set up on a first date. That's weird. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know that at some level people are going to
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  Speaker 1: be listening to the details of this date depending on
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  Speaker 1: what they want to share.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird.
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  Speaker 1: The other one is he's walking in to a group
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  Speaker 1: of people that know each other or at least are
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  Speaker 1: familiar with each other, and you are the outsider, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody there knows that you're on a date with this
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  Speaker 1: incredible human who we all think is a massive catch
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  Speaker 1: for any man. So there's a lot going against you
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  Speaker 1: when you step into it.
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  Speaker 3: Then you're dismissing the whole part where he's looking at
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of people who were on television he has
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  Speaker 3: seen the show, like, you're dismissing the whole other piece
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  Speaker 3: of like he's walking into a celebrity filled event where
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  Speaker 3: there's a red carpet and you're being surrounded by a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of quote celebrities who have been on television, Like
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine the level of pressure that he was feeling.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought he did an excellent job. I thought
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  Speaker 3: he did a great job.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see him nervous again. By the time
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  Speaker 4: I met him in the suite, he'd done the interview
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  Speaker 4: with you already, Deanna, the podcast, he'd already spent time
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  Speaker 4: with her.
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  Speaker 3: I got the pleasure of sitting behind them on the
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  Speaker 3: bus on the way to the concert. And we all
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  Speaker 3: know Los Angeles and Los Angeles traffic. What was nine
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  Speaker 3: miles took us an hour and a half to get there,
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  Speaker 3: And I got to sit behind them on the bus,
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  Speaker 3: you guys, with no one else around, And they were cute.
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  Speaker 3: They were talking to each other, they were talking about
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  Speaker 3: their families, they were pulling up their Instagram accounts. He
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  Speaker 3: was very attentive to her, and he was very complimentary.
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  Speaker 3: So if they don't get married in the end, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a really great first date. I
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  Speaker 3: thought he was a great person to be set up
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  Speaker 3: with on a first date. I thought she handled it
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  Speaker 3: really well. Whether whether they're going to go on a
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  Speaker 3: second date or keep in touch. I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: a really great first date. She was cold. We were
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  Speaker 3: having to stand outside and wait on our uber, and
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  Speaker 3: she was really cold because she's wearing this beautiful cute
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  Speaker 3: dress with no sleeves on it. And he did not
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  Speaker 3: hesitate to take his jacket off and put it around
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  Speaker 3: her shoulders. You guys, those things are so important. He
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  Speaker 3: may not be the right person for her, but he
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  Speaker 3: was chivalrous. He was kind, he was complimentary. I think
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  Speaker 3: he was honest, and he was all about Mercedes that night.
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  Speaker 3: Not to mention, there were a ton of other hot
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  Speaker 3: girls in the room. He could have dismissed her and
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  Speaker 3: literally checked out any other girl in the room. He
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  Speaker 3: followed Mercedes around all night. He adored her, He found
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  Speaker 3: her beautiful, He was interested. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: fantastic first date for whom I think in general, it
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  Speaker 3: was a fantastic first date. Whether they see each other again,
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  Speaker 3: when we're looking in the grand scheme of first dates,
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  Speaker 3: it was better than mine.
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  Speaker 1: I got the question asked to me this week at
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  Speaker 1: an event. They said, Ben, I'm single, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to meet somebody. What do you recommend, And I say,
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  Speaker 1: go on dates, like just do it, like they're not
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  Speaker 1: all going to be perfect. And I do think there
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  Speaker 1: is this scale for all of us when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the first date that as long as nothing happened,
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  Speaker 1: that's that memorable. Really, I mean, that's kind of my
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  Speaker 1: standard is like, as long as nothing happened that that
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  Speaker 1: is that memorable and that hurt us, or there was
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  Speaker 1: something said where an argument got brought up in the
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  Speaker 1: first date, then that's a good first date. It might
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  Speaker 1: not mean that there's a second, but goodness, we'll say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this this first date didn't hurt me on by going exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. I guess we're arguing semantics here because
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  Speaker 4: to me, at my age, a good first date means
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  Speaker 4: I want to see the guy again. Otherwise it's a date. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: I had a date, But if I say to you,
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  Speaker 4: I had a really good first date, it means I
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  Speaker 4: want a second date. So I think it's just my interpretation. Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the beauty of this podcast too, is
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  Speaker 3: we've got three wonderful women who are available that view
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  Speaker 3: relationships and dating very differently at different stages in our lives.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess I appreciate that, Kathy, because I've kissed
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  Speaker 3: enough frogs to think, oh, well, at least there is
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  Speaker 3: still a kind human being out there. At least there
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  Speaker 3: is a guy who had enough piece about himself that
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  Speaker 3: he at least showed up as a gentleman that night.
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  Speaker 3: Because listen, hey, it could.
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  Speaker 4: Have gone He could.
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  Speaker 3: Have pulled up her skirt and he could have tripped
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  Speaker 3: her on the red carpet. He could have told her
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  Speaker 3: she was an idiot. I mean, it could have gone
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  Speaker 3: seven way sideways.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm saying if that had been me
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  Speaker 4: and I wasn't interested, I might answer the question. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Bryce was a really nice guy, had great manners. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he carried my bags in the gifting suiteie open doors
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  Speaker 4: for me, all those things. But there wasn't the chemistry there.
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  Speaker 4: That's the answer I would give.
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  Speaker 3: I think Mercedes voice that he would not be her
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  Speaker 3: typical type. That was the thing. And what I encouraged
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  Speaker 3: her is that if we all went with our typical type,
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  Speaker 3: look where we could have ended up. Sometimes we have
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  Speaker 3: to think outside of the box and outside of our
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  Speaker 3: comfort zone because we might typically chase chaos. So I know,
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  Speaker 3: He's not her typical type, but at least he was
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  Speaker 3: a He was a decent human being that showed up
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  Speaker 3: for a first date.
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  Speaker 4: And really, and I also think, you know, we should
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  Speaker 4: give Mercedes some credit here as well. She has all
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  Speaker 4: these people that she actually does know well, and some
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  Speaker 4: of her good friends are there, and so she's trying
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  Speaker 4: the balancing act of seeing if this guy is a
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  Speaker 4: good potential for dating while also looking around the room
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  Speaker 4: and seeing her friends and seeing what they're thinking about him.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know Mercedes as well as
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  Speaker 4: you do. We've spent a couple of times together, but
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  Speaker 4: she seemed very very honest with me about what was
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  Speaker 4: going on the date and particularly when we got back
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  Speaker 4: to the hotel after the date.
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  Speaker 2: Let's dive in here a bit.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about Bryce a little bit more,
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  Speaker 1: because I did just get off of a conversation with him.
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  Speaker 2: Deanna, you were on the sprinter van.
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  Speaker 1: I'll kind of roll through all these scenarios that were
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  Speaker 1: brought up during our conversation. Kathy, you were involved in
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  Speaker 1: some of them. Deana, you were around for some of them.
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  Speaker 1: He explained to me this the sprinter van situation. It
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  Speaker 1: sounded like to me, just by a listener, that he
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  Speaker 1: did kind of crush the sprinter van, two hour drive
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  Speaker 1: with a bunch of friends or a bunch of her
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  Speaker 1: friends that he didn't know, you know, sitting next to
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  Speaker 1: a girl having these conversations. It sounded like it went
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  Speaker 1: better than it could have.
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  Speaker 2: Do you agree?
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  Speaker 3: I do. I do, and I'm telling you. I literally
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  Speaker 3: sat and the way the sprinter van was, my seat
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  Speaker 3: was raised up a little bit, so I could kind
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  Speaker 3: of see what they were doing. I could watch their
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  Speaker 3: body language. I could see the way he was leaning
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  Speaker 3: in to her. I think that I got the vibe
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  Speaker 3: from pretty early on that he was into her more
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  Speaker 3: than she was into him. But with all of that
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  Speaker 3: being said, I do think that the date went best
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  Speaker 3: case scenario for first dates. They can be awkward, they
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  Speaker 3: can be annoying. You cannot like somebody off the bat,
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  Speaker 3: and right she did the same. She hung out with
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  Speaker 3: this person all night long in a situation, and they
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  Speaker 3: were together at all times. It's not like she was like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: oh I don't like this guy and she left him alone.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: She very much catered to him as well. She was
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: also a good first date. But I thought it was
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: all there even on. It was an hour and a
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: half drive in traffic in Los Angeles was annoying. We
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: were all like, Okay, let's get there, you know, you
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: hurry up, get ready, and you wait. But they talked
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: the entire time. He engaged with her friends who were
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: sitting in the row in front of her. He asked
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: her great questions. She also asked him good questions. They
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: had mutual friends. I thought that it was a really
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: good time. I was not. I had a lot of fun,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: so one of us had a great time. But I
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: just looking at it as an outside perspective, I thought
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the date was really good. I do get the impression
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: pretty early on that he was into her more than
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: she was into him.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's pretty clear from I mean,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Mercedes about this yet. Based on
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the two what the two of you are saying and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: talking to him, I think he is excited about a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: second date, was excited about the night that was had.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll have to talk to her to see.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: If he was reading any of that clearly, or I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: should even be interested in a second date. But Kathy,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: then you were at the concert with them, He explained
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that he at the concert just kind of loosened up.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: He was dancing.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: He was like talking to some people that he knew
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: from my heart and letting her talk to her friends.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: He mentioned that he wanted to give her as much
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: attention as possible. Do you from your perspective, when I mean,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: if I'm to put words in your mouth, you think,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Kathy that this date did not end in like the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: best manner, meaning that they would go on a second date.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: When did that become clear to you? Was that during
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the concert?
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: For me? Yeah? When I finally tracked them down and
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: got them in the same room that I was in,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: she introduced me to him and we had a little
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: bit of small talk. Again, very polite, very nice guy.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: And then he went stepped away to do something and
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I said to her so and she kind of shook head. No,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: nice guy, not not my guy. But before I could
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: get any deeper into it, he was back and so
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: he but in that time when she was not there,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: you know, he was telling me that that they were
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: both Christians, that was important, and he showed me on
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: his neck he apparently had a tattoo. I couldn't see it,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: but apparently a tattooed cross on his neck, and he said,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: you know, we're we're both Christians, and she's beautiful. I
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: didn't I didn't get a sense of of more that
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: they had in common. I didn't get you know, again,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: it was loud venue. It's hard to have any sort
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: of loud, real meaningful conversation. But she I to your point, Dianna.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: She was lovely with him. She was not rude by
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: any stretch. But I didn't see them with their arms
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: on each other or looking. It was more like this
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: guy that I am standing with here, but there really
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: isn't anything. And then if I can just quickly jump ahead.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: When we got back to the hotel room, there was
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: a pounding on my door and there were four girls
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: there and they came in and they were talking about
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: you know, it was Gabby and it was Katie and
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Jess and Mercedes, and I was they were sort of
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: deciding what to do, and I guess he had not
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: gone home. He said, no, let's continue to hang out,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: and they were talking about going to a bar and
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: she didn't want to do it. She said, I don't
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: know what to do. I don't want to be rude,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and I said, well, you spend all evening with him.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: You know, these are your girlfriends. I don't think you
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: owe it to him to spend the rest of the evening. Well,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you know, he's talking about just staying here, and so
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: they were kind of having that conversation about what were
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: going to do, and Katie was saying, why don't we
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: just stay here and get a bottle of wine and
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: chat and some of the other ones wanted to go
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to a bar, and Mercedes literally seemed high anxiety. How
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: to end this evening? Now that's that's a mother's perspective.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at her and she's saying, there's no way.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one, how cool is it that they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: came knocking on your door?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You had to love that, Kathy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I always love them. I feel like I was back
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: in Paradise. There's there's sweetest. I love them all. They're
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: so sweet.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: The funny one is, Deanna, you might not know this,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: but I asked Kathy to send me texts during the concert,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and so she decided that at a loud concert, instead
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of text, I'm going to do voice memos.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: And when I went back and read them, I was like.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: They made no sense.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: To me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I know it was just gibberish. And then I did
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: send you a picture.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Though I did get a picture, thank you for that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I know I didn't see the text of the next day. Well,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I was trying to sort of be undercover, you know.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to be sitting there poking on my
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: phone like I was sure.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad Kathy had some cooth about her. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: had no shame. I get together.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to come out of this, because again
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Mercedes. Mercedes could surprise us all
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, after a night's rest thinking about
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the date, I am open to a second date. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: recognize that this maybe wasn't the best environment. But Diana,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: back to you, you were around for this first date.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: You've gone on your first you know your share of
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: first dates. What is the standard for saying yes to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a second date like especially a first date like this
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: where it is chaos, there is a lot of people around,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like when would you say yes? When would you say
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely not?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I think we have to look at it just like
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: we labeled it. I would have probably taken a second
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: date because given the situation, you know what I mean.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: But we cannot lie about that initial attraction. And if
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it wasn't there for Mercedes, and I don't want to
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: speak for her right but if it wasn't there for her,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: then she knows it's not worth it to her to
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: do a second date. Now, I think that Bryce, from
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: what I gauged from him, is that he would absolutely
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: do a second date. I was going to ask you,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Ben because when I Okay, so, when I interviewed him,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: he full on planned that if the time was right,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: he was going to try to kiss her, and he
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: was going to get her phone number.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Did he do that, He got her phone number, They
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: did not kiss.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I don't think that she was going to
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: be kissing him.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: So wait, I got to say two things. One is
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I read somewhere if you are not repulsed by the
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: first date, if there's not you know, A, B and
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: C that are against your set of values, that you
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: should always go on a second date to give the
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: guy or the gal whatever it is, a chance. So yes,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I think unless she was completely repulsed by him, given
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: the circumstances of the state, I think it would be
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I would encourage her to have a second date.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I think that unless there's a huge red flag. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: believe we get these gentle nudges from our own intuition
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: about whether something is right or wrong, and sometimes you
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: need a couple of those to feel something out. There's
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: no way you truly get to know someone in that
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: short period of time of a first date, let alone
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: the chaos of what their first date was recording a podcast.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You've got friends there, You're obviously trying to look and
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: be your best because you're at an event. So I
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: would hope that she would take a second date, but
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if she will. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: there's also the other piece of like he lives in La,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: she lives in Nashville. I don't know when they can
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: see each other again. But you know, I am hoping
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: for her to take a second date, and I'm hoping
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it's something a little bit more traditional, just the two
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: of them. They maybe they go and grab a drink,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: or maybe they go to dinner or something a little
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: bit more.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: When I asked him Diana about that, well, I said
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: that at the top of the podcast about them dating
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: long distance, he told me that he goes to Nashville.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: He's a music producer as a old music label. He
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: said that he goes to Nashville a lot. That's one
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: of the reasons he wasn't worried about long distance dating
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: because he said he spends a lot of time in Nashville.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Listen, he did a lot of things right. He made
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: that very clear even when we recorded in the room,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: that he if he saw something there, he would make
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: a point to see Mercedes again. And he told us
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: like that's his life. He's there all the time. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I think he was laying it up there. If she
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: wants it, I believe he gave her, you know, the incentive.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I think that he would do it. I do believe
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: that right now we are going to be relying on
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: what Mercedes wants because I believe that he has made
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it clear that he would keep in touch, he would
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: see her again, he would like that she had any
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: qualities that he likes and that he looks for in someone.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I will say there was a red flag for me again,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not dating Bryce, so mind me nothing. But when
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: we were talking and chatting, he shared with me that
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: he took a break for dating from dating for a
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: couple of years because he was trying to get to
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: know himself a little better. And he recognized that he
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: jumped into relationships too quickly in the past, that he
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: went hard and they went fast, and then within a
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: few months he was like, Oh, I don't really like
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that person to me, given everything that I have been
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: through in my life, that's a red flag to me.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: That's called love bombing. That's called many many you're you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: they call it dating and dating slowly for a reason
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: because you miss things in the beginning due to infatuation
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: and sexual attraction. You miss some of those really big
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: things that you need in a lasting relationship. So for me, again,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not dating Bryce, but I have trained myself enough
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: that I made some mental notes when he was sharing
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: those things that like, that's a red flag.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: For me unless he's done the work. I mean. The
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: other thing is he may have done the work in
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years where he has learned to
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: slow it down. And who knows, I mean, you don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: even know that over she'd only know that over time
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: getting to know him. The only thing I want to
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: say about it is we have to give Mercedes some
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: slack here too, because these are her good friends and
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: they apparently did all go out after and went to
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: a bar, and so they're evaluating her friends are evaluating
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: him in real time. She's not having the time to
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: develop a relationship on her own. She's you know, she's
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: sort of reading what, you know, what her friends are
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: saying about them about him. And I think that's tough too.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I think that's hard.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Would have been a difficult place for him to come
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: out of this unscathed. Because of that, your friends are
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: going to be critical.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: They're also going to be very supportive, but they're they're protective.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be critical, especially as the night wanes on
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and drinks are flowing and you know, you're stuck in traffic,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like your friends are gonna get critical. They're going to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: start to really try to protect you. I think it's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a hard place to win over. I mean, goodness, I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: hope people listening. I give a ton of support behind
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Bryce and Mercedes. They said yes to this. It's not
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like we're coming out of this being like, goodness, gracious,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: what a terrible guy? Or wow, Mercedes, no wonder you're
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you're single. Like they're both doing great, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that's the beauty of this experience is we get to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: hear why things work and why things don't, and sometimes
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: be surprised when they work, and then also be surprised
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: when they don't work. I mean, he's a handsome man,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: he was kind.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: They were dressed similar, Ben, like, they showed up and
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: their vibe was the same. She was wearing a black
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: silk dress and he was wearing a black silk blouse.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That wasn't good for.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Them deeply unbuttoned.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I was going to say his blouse, his shirt was
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: deeply unbuttoned, and she was buttoned up. So yeah, there
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: was that. I have to tell you why when they're
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: in our hotel room. The girls before they all went
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: out to the bar after the date, they were just
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I was laughing. I mean again, you know, alcohol probably
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: had been involved a little bit. They were saying. I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the guys got on a silk shirt and then somebody said, no,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: it's polyesterro I'm like, really do we care? And it
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: was unbuttoned, I mean, come on, button up your shirt.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And I just sat there laughing.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I had to look back at the photos when and
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I have to send them to you, Ben so that
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: you can see them. Because I took a video to
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: of their initial meat. But I don't remember his button
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: being undone that far.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: When they were in the suite for sure, well or.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: When we started the podcast. I don't remember seeing that
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: much cleavage on him.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I've got a hairy chest. That would be kind of cool.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Look for me, though, born star like it'd be awesome.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I question everything about you, Ben, I'm.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Gonna say, Ben, that's just that just doesn't even I
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: don't want to imagine.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: It does it for some? Yeah? It does it for some.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: This is a really fascinating time because obviously we got
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to speak to Bryce, we got to speak to.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: The two of you. We're gonna speak to Mercedes.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I think the big like takeaway from this so far
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: is that he did in a fact in a sense,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing what you're saying, Diana, and I'm hearing what
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you're saying, Kathyen. I'm like, the best thing that happened
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to Bryce. If Bryce listens to this, which I'm guessing
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you will, is to do a long distance relationship because
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: it forces things to slow down. It does it forces
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the pace to get to a level from that euphoric
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't imagine not spending an evening
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: with you from like night one. Here's a red flag
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: for me, though, to interrupt myself in my life, there
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is some standards for first dates, right, Like I don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: need to be sleeping with the person on the first date.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: That's not necessarily a win for anybody, especially if I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: want to see them again. That's never been a good
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: start to a relationship for me. A kiss acceptable, you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but a kiss can be a kiss, and it's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: nice like goodbye, cannot wait to see again. I might
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: even see you tomorrow night. If you're up for it,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: we'll go out to dinner. However, my lesson that I've
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: learned over the years is you just say goodbye a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: little earlier than you think you should, because if the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: other person isn't feeling it, or they're tired, or they
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: were nervous, and now they're just like relieved that they
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: did this first date thing, it gives them the space
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to say, hey, that was awesome, leaving them wanting more.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I do think a red flag was this kind of
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to now go out with your friends to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the bar till two am. Just in my life, that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: just feels like an easy Hey, I'll let you guys
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: go have fun.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go home.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you said it perfectly. Just then, just then,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: there was a part where he needed to be aware
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: of his surroundings and allow her the moment to just
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: be with her friends and politely see himself out.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going to say I disagree
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: with both of you. I think it is as much
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: on Mercedes to say, hey, this has been a lovely date. Uh,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: you know, it's been great seeing you. We can talk again.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But I'm here with my friends and I haven't seen them,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and let's let's talk again tomorrow or a week from
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: tomorrow or never again. But I'm going to place the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: onus just as much on her to end the date
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: as him, and she couldn't. When she was in my
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: hotel room, she said, I don't know what to say.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Eyes Kathy.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but we've all been married here, right, Like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: don't make it the other person's problem. What I'm saying
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: is be aware enough to not put it on the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: other person to have to be the one to say something,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: even if it felt like hey, early and gone it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: it's it's actually a really good I think play.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: It could have benefited him well. To do that. Less
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: is more sometimes leave room for her wanting more. As
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: much as we hate to say that there are games
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: in dating, there are. We all want to be desired.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: We want there to be some attraction. You want them
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: to leave wanting more.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Because we don't know, you know, we don't know. Maybe
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the other guys, you know, Zach all the.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: No doubt, Kathy, I won't assume what they were thinking.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I highly doubt know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, maybe they said, hey, come on,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: we're gonna go to the bar, come with it. I mean,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I don't I doubt it. I doubt it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with I doubt it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: For the women out there listening, I will say there
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: would be something very attractive to me on a first date,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: even second day, even today in my marriage. If we
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: all go out to dinner and we're hanging out and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the guys are saying, hey, let's go to the sports bar,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'd love to go, and my wife
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: or my girlfriend at the time and be like, you guys,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: go have fun.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Ben.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see when you get home or Ben,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I hope that we have a date tomorrow night or
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the next night, whenever you're available. Like there is something
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: attractive about just being aware enough to say, Hey, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: know you like me. I know you love being around me,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that I have to be around
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: all the time. Hey, we got to close up here.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I'll give you each thirty seconds. Final thoughts on witnessing
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and being the Spies for the first date, Kathy will
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: start with you.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I missed my calling. I think the
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: CIA would have been a good place for me. I
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: just have to find them. I know. I thought it
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: was great to sort of watch from a distance, not
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: being a participant, watching what was going on. And I
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: guess my wish is for anyone who's out there dating,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: give it a chance. Be calm it. You know, you
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: don't have to conquer the world on the first date.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: So I hope that Mercedes will give it a second shot,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: because I think that you just sometimes you don't know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it takes a little bit of time to warm up,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and it was not the most easy dating. You know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: to date someone at a concert is not the easiest
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: first date.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, Kathy, I would one hundred percent
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: agree with what you say. I hope Mercedes will give
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: it a second date. I really do. And I hope
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the two of them can just go to dinner next
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: time he's in Nashville for work, or at least a
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: phone call, a FaceTime or something to be able to speak.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Because I, from an outsider, believe that it was a
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: great first date. I think that they were both engaged,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: They treated each other well, they got to know each other,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: they found things in common, and we don't always have
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: to lead with that initial physical chemistry. Sometimes that needs
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: to grow and you need to find other things in common.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you, Kathy. I do hope that they
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: go on a second date. I hope that they can
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: figure that out from there. That would be my hope.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I think it was a great first date, Benjamin, good.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Job, hey, crushing it over here. I will say this also.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I mean it when I say this, Bryce and Mercedes.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I think it took courage. I think you're both great.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: If you're not meant for each other, you're gonna be
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: catchius to people. This is just the fun part of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: breaking down an individual relationship at an individual time in
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable scenario, but I do think my hope
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: is they both came out of it being like, I'm
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: glad I did it. It was worth the effort, it
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: was worth the time, worth the evening, and we think
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you're both great. Hey, this is famously available breaking down
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: with my spies for this date. Deanna and Kathy. They
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: are good at this. In fact, I do think they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: might have a job at this. This would be a
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: really fun career path for the two of them. Anyways,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to Mercedes, we talked to Bryce.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking to a lot of people about
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: this day, figuring out the dues, the don'ts, the ones,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the needs, the red flags, the green flags, and everything
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: good and bad that happens in dating.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Ben, We'll talk to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: you soon.