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- 0:03Hello, all. This is Anne Lunds coming to you from the Eye Opener Society with
- 0:08my podcast, which I call Haunted and Waiting.
- 0:12You can find other ones of my podcast here on hauntedandwaiting.blog or here
- 0:18on the Eye Opener Society.
- 0:20So if you get a chance, look at some of the Eye Opener Society's other podcasts.
- 0:26If you're into alternate ways of looking at the world, this is the place where you want to be.
- 0:31And my specialty here on this venue is the paranormal, most specifically ghosts.
- 0:38Today's topic is phantom cries or phantom wails.
- 0:42And I'm going to start off this podcast basically by, as I always do,
- 0:47telling you a story that I've had with phantom cries or phantom whales,
- 0:51my own personal situation,
- 0:52and as well as go over some famous cases, as well as some science or explanations
- 0:59for what a phantom cry or a phantom whale could be or the reasons for it.
- 1:05So what is a phantom cry? Well, let's start off. A phantom cry is basically what it sounds like.
- 1:10A cry or a whale or some sobbing typically comes from a child or sounds like
- 1:16it's coming from a child or a woman.
- 1:19On occasion, it's also a man, but more specifically, it's often children and women.
- 1:25And you'll hear this cry or this wail or the sound of distress when there's
- 1:30nothing there that could have caused it.
- 1:33And this gives us an instinctual response. It's terrifying because.
- 1:39It's somebody in pain. And when we're hardwired, that when we hear somebody
- 1:44in pain, you know, it triggers some kind of response in us and it makes us scared, want to help.
- 1:51But when you can't see the cause of it, it's worrisome and it just makes it
- 1:56very eerie and chilling.
- 1:58So by the way, if you hear snoring on the side, it's my dog.
- 2:02So I apologize for that. But let me go on. I'm going going to start off with my first story.
- 2:07I always like to do that. I take this from my marble notebook.
- 2:10If you have a chance to look at my other podcasts, I talk about my marble notebook.
- 2:14It's full of stories that have to do with ghosts or the paranormal.
- 2:18But this one occurred to me about 20 years ago when I had purchased a house.
- 2:24It was an old house, over 100 years old.
- 2:27To look at it, you would think it was haunted. Everything about it screamed haunted house.
- 2:32But Actually, in the five years I lived there, we never had anything paranormal
- 2:36happen in the house except for two occasions.
- 2:38The first night I slept in the house, and then at the end, when I sold the house,
- 2:44it was a few days before I was going to give possession to the house to the next family.
- 2:50Those two instances, and they both have to do with a phantom cry.
- 2:54So that house, I was told, was owned by a very rich family, and it was their
- 2:59hunting lodge. It's a beautiful house.
- 3:01And we had closed, my husband and I had closed on the house.
- 3:05And the first night, it was in New Jersey.
- 3:09And my children were back in the city. We were living in the city.
- 3:12We left them in the city with their grandparents. And my husband and I,
- 3:15after closing, spent the night in this house.
- 3:18It was vacant. It had no furniture, obviously.
- 3:20We slept on an air mattress in what would have been our bedroom.
- 3:24Middle of the night, we were both woken up. So I'm going to repeat this.
- 3:28We were both woken up. by the sound of a crying child.
- 3:32It was very unsettling. It was very clear.
- 3:35So we got up. We were totally freaked out. It sounded like it was coming from the upstairs.
- 3:42There was a thin staircase that led to the top floor, which we were told was
- 3:48an attic, but at some point it had been a servant's quarters.
- 3:51So there were two bedrooms up there, but it was in essence really an attic.
- 3:55We were going to use it as an attic. We go up to the two bedrooms that were upstairs.
- 4:00We could hear the crying. It sounded like it was coming from the bedroom on the right.
- 4:04We walked in there, but we couldn't see anything. We were so freaked out.
- 4:09And then it disappeared. Then it disappeared.
- 4:13And it never happened again. And the whole time we lived in that house never
- 4:16happened again. It was the butt of jokes. We told people, nobody believed us, so on and so on.
- 4:22Well, anyway, the house went on the market and I had moved to a new house five years later.
- 4:28My boys and I would come every day after work and we would get boxes of stuff
- 4:34and transport it to the new house.
- 4:35So this one particular day, my younger son, who was about four,
- 4:40at the time, had asked if he could go up to his room and pack some toys.
- 4:45Of course, I said yes. I was in the kitchen packing up kitchen items.
- 4:49All of a sudden, he comes down and he says, Ma, I hear crying upstairs.
- 4:53Somebody, something's crying upstairs.
- 4:55And I said to him, it's probably your brother.
- 4:58Their brothers, they joked around. The brother was older. He was about nine
- 5:01at the time. It's probably your brother. Ignore it. Go back upstairs. Pack your toys.
- 5:05He did as he was told. He went upstairs. A few minutes later,
- 5:08he comes down. He goes, I don't think it's him. I hear crying.
- 5:11It sounds like a baby. I'm telling you, I hear crying.
- 5:14I started to get annoyed because I was packing things.
- 5:17It was a very frustrating time. We were kind of like living out of suitcases.
- 5:22I sent him back upstairs.
- 5:23He goes back upstairs, comes back down.
- 5:26Now he's telling me, it sounds like it's coming from the attic.
- 5:29It's coming from the upstairs.
- 5:30Well, the attic, we had converted it to an office. So he said,
- 5:35it sounds like it's coming from the office.
- 5:37I was annoyed at this time. And I said, listen, it's your brother. Don't worry about it.
- 5:41So he just sat on the steps and he refused to go back upstairs,
- 5:45which I thought was kind of strange.
- 5:47I should have paid attention to him. I actually do a blog post about children
- 5:50and spirits and I wasn't even taking my advice here.
- 5:53So anyway, I grabbed a box and I went into the living room.
- 5:57And for the moment, then I heard the crying and I screamed at my son,
- 6:03the older one I said stop messing with your brother and come on let's go but
- 6:08when I went into the living room and looked into the driveway my older son,
- 6:14was in the car and he was listening to music and his earbuds and he was rocking
- 6:18his head. He was listening to music.
- 6:20And I turned to my younger son who looked at me and said, I told you something's
- 6:24crying upstairs. And we darted out of the house.
- 6:27So I never did find out what happened.
- 6:30I didn't stay in touch with the family that moved into the house,
- 6:32but that's an example clearly of a phantom cry.
- 6:36Wish I had looked up the research of the house, but I never did.
- 6:40So let's go into some really famous historical cases.
- 6:43And let's go to the legend of La Llorena, which is a Mexican folklore.
- 6:49La Llorena literally translates into weeping woman, okay, or grieving mother.
- 6:55So this is very common in Mexico, and the story changes from region to region,
- 7:02and it's actually been carried over the border into some southwestern towns that are on the border,
- 7:09seemingly probably people of Mexican descent who had moved into America,
- 7:14carried the story with them, but it's common in that area.
- 7:18And basically, it's this older woman who the story goes that for numerous reasons,
- 7:25she was forced to drown her own children. So she killed her own children.
- 7:31Whether the story changes, whether it was because of heartbreak,
- 7:34losing their father, or betrayal or wanting to get back at the father, it changes.
- 7:40But apparently after drowning her children, she's crying and she screams,
- 7:46oh my children, in America, but in Mexican or Spanish, it would be ay mis hijos,
- 7:52which means oh my children, because she's grieving their loss.
- 7:57And apparently she runs through these towns saying this, people claim to have
- 8:01seen it. If you go on TikTok.
- 8:02You can find videos of it. It's very, very strange. But again,
- 8:07that's an example of a phantom cry, again, in pain, crying.
- 8:11My next story is the Myrtles. I've discussed the Myrtles before in one of my
- 8:16other podcasts, but the Myrtles story, if you're not familiar with it,
- 8:20was of an African slave who lived in the plantation.
- 8:26She was going to be leaving the plantation. They were going to move her.
- 8:30She was a house slave, so she was going to be moved from the house into the
- 8:34fields, which was a harder life.
- 8:36And not to downplay that being a slave in a house was not hard but,
- 8:41It was thought that to be in the fields, you know, in the elements was actually harder.
- 8:46So the story, which is true, was that she poisoned the owner's children in hopes
- 8:54that she could, she didn't want to kill them.
- 8:57She poisoned them in hope that they would get sick and she would bring them
- 9:00back to health and that the plantation owner would keep her on the premise,
- 9:05knowing that she was helpful. She was a useful servant because she knew how to cure illnesses.
- 9:12Unfortunately, when she poisoned these children, I think she used oleander,
- 9:16she put a little bit too much poison in whatever it was that she fed them, and they actually died.
- 9:24And so her family then turned her in. She ran to the family who were field slaves
- 9:29for help, but they turned her in. She was hung.
- 9:32She's known to haunt the Myrtles Plantation. Again, go to YouTube,
- 9:36go to TikTok, go to Facebook. You'll find tons of videos, pictures of her.
- 9:41But less reported are the phantom cries of the children.
- 9:46So apparently if you stay overnight at the Myrtles, you can spend the night
- 9:50there, you will hear the children crying.
- 9:54Very unsettling, but it's again this phantom cry.
- 9:58Another one, I didn't see this when I went to Gettysburg, but it's the Gettysburg phantom child.
- 10:04I didn't hear about this when I went to Gettysburg, but I've since researched
- 10:08it, And apparently this is another common occurrence, but in Gettysburg, um,
- 10:14several people have reported hearing a child cry in the woods outside of the battlefields.
- 10:21So crying in the trees, walking through the trees, they claim to see the child,
- 10:24but hearing the child, I'm sorry, they do not claim to see the child, only hear the child.
- 10:30Again, this is what makes a distinction between a phantom cry and an apparition.
- 10:34In apparition, you would see the child.
- 10:37A phantom cry, you would just hear the child. So this is common, apparently.
- 10:42And what's odd about this is park rangers from the battlefields there claim
- 10:47that it tends to come from seasoned hikers and older people who are familiar with the area.
- 10:56Hikers that hike and camp tend to not be very skittish and don't scare easily.
- 11:01I'm an avid hiker. I tell you, I go out, I hear animals. I don't scare that quickly.
- 11:06But apparently this sound scares them. and they describe the same thing,
- 11:12a sound of a scared child, but they don't see it.
- 11:16And it's been reported that there have been searches in the area and nothing turns up.
- 11:20What could it be? Maybe a child having seen their parent die or shooting, who knows?
- 11:26But again, another example of a phantom cry. So let's go into closing and why these cries.
- 11:32What are the possible explanation for these cries? Well, the first one is that it is a residual energy.
- 11:39So residual energy is just that, you know, everything, there's a belief that
- 11:44everything that lives on the earth leaves a certain amount of energy.
- 11:48Energy is neither created nor destroyed. We all heard that in school.
- 11:51So it's believed that sometimes these emotional moments can leave an imprint of an energy.
- 11:58And it kind of becomes like a recording that plays back under the right conditions over and over.
- 12:04So in the case of La Llorena, if she drowned her children and was crying, Thank you.
- 12:10That energy just doesn't disappear. It stays there and it plays on a loop.
- 12:14And under the right conditions, either because a person is psychic,
- 12:18I believe everybody's psychic to be honest, or the atmosphere is just for that
- 12:23area, like this certain time of year, like All Hallows' Eve,
- 12:27under those situations, the energy spikes and it comes out.
- 12:33Another one is what they call thin veil moments so that's when the the veil
- 12:41between the living and the dead is thin and you're picking up a part of time
- 12:44that's passed so think of it as,
- 12:49timeline shifts so you know a lot of people believe I generally don't believe
- 12:55this but But if you listen to Sunset Child's podcast,
- 12:59Gary also has mentioned alternate realities or overlapping realities.
- 13:05Sometimes, well, some people believe that time exists on the same plane.
- 13:09There is no past. There is no future. It's all happening at the same time.
- 13:12And so in these thin veil times, the situation, as an example,
- 13:18with the Myrtles, children crying, it could be happening what we would think
- 13:24of as right now. It's just on another timeline.
- 13:26It's happening right now and the veil is thin, so we're experiencing it right now.
- 13:32Another thing it could be is just a spirit communication. So the spirits passed
- 13:37or had such a traumatic experience that they want to let you know.
- 13:42They want to let you know, hey, I drowned my children and I'm grieving it.
- 13:46Or, hey, we're being poisoned and we're dying and we know our caretaker,
- 13:52the slave in this house, did it.
- 13:55Or in my case in the house, maybe a child did die there and it's just kind of
- 14:00wanting us to know, hey, I died up here.
- 14:03So an intelligent spirit. I don't know. I tend to believe this one out of the others.
- 14:09And then the last one, and we got to love our science people,
- 14:12right? The ones that make fun of the people that believe in the paranormal.
- 14:16And it could be,
- 14:19a misrepresentation of what you're hearing. So in my case with the child,
- 14:24it could have been a squirrel.
- 14:26And my mind interpreted it as a child.
- 14:29There was no squirrel up there. I couldn't tell you that much.
- 14:31We tore that attic apart. There was no furniture up there. There was nothing up there.
- 14:37We opened the windows. It was not coming from the outside. It was coming from the inside.
- 14:42So, or it could be something called an auditory pareidolia.
- 14:46A pareidolia is, and we've all seen this, you look at a pattern in a wall and it looks like a woman.
- 14:52The most common ones are a pattern in a tree, they say looks like the Virgin
- 14:57Mary, or a piece of toast might look like Jesus, what have you.
- 15:03But that's a visual pareidolia.
- 15:06An auditory pareidolia is you hear a sound and it sounds like something else.
- 15:12So the most common auditory pareidolias come through,
- 15:17you'll hear there's a fan and through the fan you might hear people talking
- 15:21or the air conditioner is running and you might hear music very very common and so the scientists,
- 15:29and I hope you're there and you can rebut this for me.
- 15:33Will say that this was an auditory pareidolia not that I'm lying or these are
- 15:37lies but that there is a sound and our mind is filling in the blank by giving it a pattern,
- 15:43So, in closing, I'd love to hear what you think.
- 15:47Please comment below if you're listening on YouTube or any of the other podcast
- 15:52venues that you might be listening to.
- 15:54Or you can go on my blog, hauntedandwaiting.blog, where I will have links to
- 15:59these stories, some history, or other explanations where you can research on
- 16:06your own and comment there.
- 16:08I'd love to see you there as well. So, in closing, and to the scientific community,
- 16:14when multiple people hear the same thing at the same time, I am going to think
- 16:20that there is actually something there and that no, quote unquote,
- 16:25natural source can explain it and that it is actually paranormal.
- 16:29Paranormal and you know that that distinction between psychology and paranormal
- 16:35can become razor thin when you think about this so in closing thank you for
- 16:40listening and I hope to hear from you and I hope you will come and listen to
- 16:44my next podcast very soon.