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Outlast - Part 2 · Replay Reviews

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Okay.
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Part two.
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How did you fare watching part two, Kathy?
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Was it better?
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It got- it was better, but also worse at the same time just because of a few particular
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scenes.
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Yeah, like when you didn't realize the character died because your eyes were closed.
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I like- Pete, so I knew it was gonna happen, but I didn't see it completely.
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The fact that you had to tell me when I didn't need to close my eyes anymore really clued
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us in, but I couldn't handle it.
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It probably- just listening to it and not actually watching probably makes it worse
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in your head than it actually was.
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But I didn't feel queasy this time, so that's good.
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I think it's a little less gory.
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The first one was pretty rough.
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Well, anything before we out of context summarize this?
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Nope.
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Alright, so in this episode we are subject to a forced FBM.
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We lose some fingers but are conveniently left with the ones necessary to operate a
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camera.
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And we continue our game of flashlight tag with Father Martin.
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Scene one, Miles trudges through the maze of poop tubes and after some run-ins with
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various unsavory characters, he manages to escape.
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But unfortunately he runs straight into another trap and we meet Dr. Traeger.
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General observation is that the water is red in the sewer and I don't know if it's a mix
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between more poop or is it just blood?
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Wait more poop?
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Yeah, just like- What's the original poop?
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Like your normal sewer.
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But all these people who are chasing Miles in it, who knows if they're-
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They're just dropping logs while they're chasing him?
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Is that what you're saying?
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Considering how we have FBMs here, these people are pantsless and so I wouldn't be surprised
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if they're pooping as they're going and that's why the water looks so freshly brownish red.
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Well fair enough, I did have a note at about a minute, 50 seconds.
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My question is are those turds because we are in a sewer and they look a little suspicious.
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Honestly, I think my first reaction was it's blood but then knowing how gory things were
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in part one, I think it probably is fingers or different body parts.
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I think we can both agree that these poop tubes blow the Yakuza Zero poop tube way out
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of the water.
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It's disgusting.
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These are chunky.
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Okay, we've spent too long talking about this already.
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But at 52 seconds, did you see that creepy thing fly across the screen?
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No.
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First of all, I struggled watching this.
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This was 52 seconds in.
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Were you already closing your eyes?
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I don't want to say I was but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if I was.
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Okay.
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Well after that, Miles finds the first document of this part and it's a note written by Father
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Martin saying, what we've mistaken so long for ghosts, spirits, madness is actually a
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god and goes on to mention the Walrider.
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So we've heard of the Walrider a few times and now it seems pretty clear that this is
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what Father Martin is referring to as a god.
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I was thinking they had to have created some kind of religion but it wasn't formal enough
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or there wasn't enough structure.
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So after witnessing these things, then they're going backwards to justify their current religion
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rather than moving forward in a linear direction.
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They're using what's happening to these people as evidence of whatever they thought was happening.
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Yeah.
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So I guess kind of building off of that, Miles will soon run into another patient who tells
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him, and so my question is, are patients hallucinating?
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And then the question with that is, Miles isn't a patient and he saw this thing in the
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sewers so it can't be a hallucination, right?
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Unless there's something in the air.
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That's exactly what I wrote was, are these patients hallucinating?
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But at the same time, I'm thinking what if it's the people torturing them are purposely
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trying to make them not know what's real, what's not, and to tie it back to the whole
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dream idea of Dreamwalkers, or I can't remember what they called them.
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But I'm thinking it's someone manipulating the patients into confusing reality versus
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dreams versus hallucinations.
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Yeah.
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They mentioned lucid dreaming quite a bit, but they also mentioned Wernicke's dreams
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and Traeger's dreams.
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So are we sharing dreams or are we inputting, downloading, uploading dreams?
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It's weird.
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And then we have heard that Wernicke's dead, but this patient gives us more insight.
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He says that he was dead before he even started working here.
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Well then he follows it up by saying a quote that we heard earlier in the game, what kind
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of experiments does a dead doctor perform on the living?
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It's weird when you have these patients repeating almost word for word the same questions.
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It makes you wonder what they've been told versus what they've actually experienced.
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My theory is, this is a new theory that I'm just thinking of, is that with the lucid dreaming
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and everything, a little bit more inception, like where they're planting in certain things
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to get the people to do it, whether they're dreaming or if it's reality and then them
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convincing, hey, you're dreaming right now, but do this and that.
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I don't know, but I feel like they're doing some kind of mind tricks after being manipulated.
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Or that's what they were doing until whatever hell broke loose because now, I mean, we've
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seen lots of dead security guards and doctors, so it seems like they've lost control.
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What if someone, I don't know who, maybe it would be Doc Martin.
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I don't know exactly who yet.
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Who's Doc Martin?
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Isn't it Doctor Martin?
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Father Martin is the priest guy.
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Father.
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I don't know why I wrote doctor here.
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I was probably thinking of the shoes.
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We are not sponsored by Doc Martens.
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I thought I forgot my theory.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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What if Father Martin was the one who told all the people to kill the security guards
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that they're the ones harming them?
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That's just my random theory of why the security guards are all dead is that it could be because
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obviously, because all hell broke loose.
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But what if all hell broke loose because Father Martin told these people to kill the security
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guard?
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I mean, yeah, why not?
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We heard scary dudes say, I mean, they want to kill Miles, but that Father Martin told
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them not to.
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So if he has enough power to convince people to not kill someone, you'd think it'd be,
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you know, similar amount of power to get them to kill someone, especially because a lot
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of these people seem kind of bloodthirsty.
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So I mean, yeah, I think it's plausible.
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Okay, we get some more insight into the situation.
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With document number two, Miles finds a journal of some sort next to a dead patient and written
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in this journal is, I can't hear the wall rider anymore.
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Maybe the therapy is wearing off.
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I can't remember the dreams.
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But I could earn my release by submitting to therapy.
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It was not therapy.
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We were sacrificed to conjure a demon.
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Still mentioning dreams.
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And this is maybe the second or third time we've heard about conjuring a demon.
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I can't tell if these people are writing it while they're lucid or while they're still
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hallucinating.
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I think that's my biggest issue when reading this was I'm confused exactly what's happening
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if he or she is...
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What mental state were they in when they're writing this?
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Yeah, and sorry, when you said he or she, that just made me realize we've not seen a
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woman in this game at all.
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Oh, okay, you're right.
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Maybe they're all locked in a single room that Miles just hasn't come across yet.
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Yeah, because we were in the female ward in this part of the game.
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So we know that there were females here.
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So that's kind of weird, and I'm sorry, what was your question?
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Oh, at what state, like mental state was the person who wrote this in when they're writing
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it?
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That's interesting because he says maybe the therapy is wearing off.
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We know he was there at some point, and we don't really know if that is a permanent thing
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or temporary.
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But it seems like he's changing and he feels that shift.
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I mean, I think your guess is as good as mine, but it seems hinted at he's a little more
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in the real world than a lot of the other patients we're seeing, maybe.
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At the end of scene one, Miles enters a hospital-type area and finds a third document, which is
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titled Project Walrider Cost Report.
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It includes the patient status written by Dr. Rick Trager.
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For someone, we don't know who, I don't think.
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It sounds like he's lost a lot of patients.
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It sounds like he has no business being a doctor.
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But then he says that he's trying to help cut costs and mentions someone named Billy,
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who we did see a patient status report for in the first part of the game.
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And basically it sounds like this Billy person is causing issues and the profitability of
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Project Walrider has plummeted.
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How is he allowed to do what he's doing?
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Like I get that's the overall theme throughout part one and part two, but again, this is
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just a reminder of how is he allowed to do what he does and doesn't he feel bad that
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he's failing all the time?
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To your point, some of the other documents, they seem a bit more professional.
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Like we have that Helen Grinat or whoever on the legal team.
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Like she sounds more professional.
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This is kind of the first document where someone titled Doctor clearly should not be a doctor.
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I mean to answer my own question.
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Yeah.
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The fact that he can do what he does and not feel bad is probably the reason why he's doing
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what he does is because he doesn't feel bad.
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So it's just like going in a circle.
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And then having just like being so flippant to write any who, who writes any who?
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That's something you say out loud.
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So yeah, he definitely seems very disconnected from what he's doing to people.
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And that's pretty scary.
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And we'll see that.
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Miles will see that in person very soon.
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Also in this hospital area, we hear a patient say, can't sleep.
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Wernicke is waiting for me there.
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So is Wernicke like controlling these people's dreams?
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Is he talking to them in their dreams?
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Invading their dreams?
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Implanting them with dreams?
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I think a general observation is all the people that we've seen alive or close to dying are
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usually people who are nearly drained of their blood.
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They're usually either sitting in a pool of blood or they look pretty pale.
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And so I'm wondering why drain them of blood.
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I think the security guards are usually the ones who are sitting in a pile of their blood,
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which makes sense because they're dying.
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But what kind of killing tactic are they doing that usually drains the people of their blood?
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Or are they trying to like get it and then having some kind of experiment with whatever
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pool of blood they collect?
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I don't know.
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I mean, I always just pictured they were getting stabbed multiple times and then just a lot
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of blood came out.
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But you know, I don't know.
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I wouldn't be surprised.
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There's a lot of weird stuff going on here.
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But also, speaking of the patients, a lot of them are like deformed.
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It looks like their skin has been sliced off and like healed over.
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I don't know if you've noticed that they look kind of Frankensteined.
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Well, I mean, I noticed it, but it didn't give a second thought.
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And now that I'm thinking of it, is it all part of the experiment?
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It's weird.
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None of them have normal skin.
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They look like they've been butchered and sewn back together.
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Scene two summary.
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Miles is captured by Traeger and loses a few fingers to him.
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And a game of cat and mouse begins when Miles is able to finally free himself.
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Then Father Martin tells Miles to meet him outside.
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So creepy.
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Which part?
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Well, I mean, the first time we meet Father Martin, he's just kind of like breathing
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in your ear kind of creepy.
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Here, he's like, I'm your best friend.
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Let's meet outside.
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But you don't trust him.
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So it's not kind of creepy.
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Like, what is he up to?
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Yeah, but then who else can you trust?
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This is pretty much the only person who hasn't tried to kill him and is offering any sort
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of a plan.
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So I understand why Miles is going along with it.
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But he is really, he raises some red flags.
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A lot of red flags.
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Speaking of creepy, Traeger is insane.
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He's not taking anything seriously.
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He's joking around.
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That attitude mixed with what he's doing to people is just really scary.
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And then yeah, we get another FBM moment and we have no choice.
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We have to look.
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It puts it just front and center.
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And it's an excellent example of this weird skin anomaly that I was talking about.
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Can we just say Outlast is blowing other games out of the water when it comes to FBM count.
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Well, the nice thing is that these are all males, but it is a nice turn.
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Even though these people look a bit distorted and a bit Frankensteiny, at least we're getting
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male nudity over the overly always sexualized female body nudity moment.
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It's true.
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This might be the only game to have the ratio so far the other way compared to what we normally
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see.
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But I mean, the fact that it's in a horror game.
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That's usually when it's women, it's like a romantic moment or just to try to turn you
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on or something.
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But here it's to scare you.
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So what does that say?
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I don't know.
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So yeah, I'm not sure you watched any of this scene or if you just listened to it, but it
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is fantastically disgusting.
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And my main question is just why the urinal scissors?
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Why is that the implement he chose to chop off Miles's fingers?
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Anything but the urinal scissors.
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I couldn't tell what device he was using.
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I just knew he used some kind of scissor like thing.
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But I think it's too gross a sound.
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They were in the urinal.
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So that might be one of the most sterile spots in that room, if we're being honest.
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Floor is disgusting.
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I think you're right.
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I had one note about the guy who was like chained to the bed.
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It's like he has a spotlight on him.
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So I'm wondering what made that guy so special.
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And he's not dead yet.
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That's the other thing.
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So I'm curious what makes him so special and if he's going to have some bigger impact.
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Yeah, I wonder if this was Trigger's current project and then he heard all the commotion
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with the chase and that's when he caught Miles.
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So maybe it's just his current project, his current experiment.
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Miles loses some fingers and you just, I mean, we have to point out the connection to Yakuza,
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don't we?
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This is the type of game that Leah likes, games where people lose their fingers.
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Well, I was thinking more along the lines of this is probably what Kuze was hoping
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Kiryu's hands would look like by the end of Yakuza 0.
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But no luck.
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And then I think this is the patient you were talking about.
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It's the one that talks to Miles.
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So question.
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If Trigger is an executive, why did he get the treatment?
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Did he want it?
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Was it forced on him?
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If he did want it, could there be some benefit to it?
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They like getting pain inflicted on themselves.
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I think at some point all of them had that and maybe once like, oh, I'll do it.
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I want to try it out.
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I mean, yeah.
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Not so cheery like that.
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But then the patient continues to say it worked too well.
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They couldn't control it.
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And so that makes me wonder and I can't believe we haven't discussed this yet.
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So what is the objective?
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What do you think Mount Massive is trying to do with all these experiments?
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I think it's to create human turned into weapons.
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And I don't know what they're going to do with these human turned weapons, but I think
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it's a power thing is that they're going to be revolutionizing the new war machines that
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are literally manmade.
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That's a good theory.
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I don't know if we get an answer or a complete answer to that by the end of the game.
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So I'll keep an eye out for that and see if I pick up on it anymore.
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When we're being chased, when Miles is being chased by Traeger, another patient yells,
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I will murder you with my mind.
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I will murder you with my mind.
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What?
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How?
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I mean, that kind of goes into your theory of human weapons.
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Well, these people are pretty much being lied to about.
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Well, that's assuming that it's a lie with their lucid dreams and hallucination and power
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with that kind of theory in mind.
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I think the patients are thinking they have more capabilities with their minds than they
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actually do.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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I mean, if they're in these dreams where they're able to lucid dream even, I mean, that's quite
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a bit of power that you would feel.
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Who knows how real those dreams feel.
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They're definitely doing something with their minds and maybe some of them can murder you
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with their minds.
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We don't know.
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More about Traeger's, I don't know what he looks like.
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Are those tubes that are his blood supplies on his body?
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I mean, I didn't get a really good look at it.
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It looks like it, right?
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Let me pull up a picture.
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You know how he has like...
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Okay.
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Because right now I can't tell if those are veins or man-made veins for him that's pumping
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his blood supply or what the heck are those.
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Okay.
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It's gonna be really close so don't get scared.
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It does look like blood.
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Way too creepy.
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And see, they do have like stitches.
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Why does his skin look like muscles instead of skin?
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That's what I'm saying.
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Their skin looks weird.
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So maybe it's not so much like cut up and sewn.
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It's just like...
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It looks like raw meat or like dried.
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It looks like beef jerky.
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Right?
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I think it's blood supply, the tube things.
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Yeah, I think it is too.
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We don't know why or who's blood.
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You know, going back, I had a previous note I forgot is that there's like people yelling
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we want meat.
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Oh yeah.
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Do you think the reason why they look kind of weird is because they're eating each other
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on their like either eating people's skin or people have been gnawing on either themselves
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or other people?
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I don't think so.
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I feel like they would all be dead if that was happening.
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I don't think anyone would leave them alive.
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I mean, I don't know.
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What was the purpose of cutting Miles's fingers?
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I don't know.
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Excellent question.
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You know, I think he just wanted to do it.
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But you know, he also mentions cutting out someone's tongue so that he could not have
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to lick his own stamps.
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So maybe he just needs those fingers for something that he doesn't want to do.
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I don't know.
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I agree.
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This guy is a bit too bat crazy.
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The fourth document that Miles finds is a request for reassignment from an orderly who
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says that he's going to consider going to the press.
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And I have a feeling either this guy is now a patient or we've seen his dead body already.
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I don't think you can say you're going to the press and not be killed in this building.
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Our first thought was he's dead.
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Yeah, he's definitely dead.
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Okay, well, we just met him and he's already dead.
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I don't think anyone's crying about it, but let's do this so long for Dr. Trigger.
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I don't know about you, but I don't think there's any debate here.
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Definitely a mother.
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Yeah.
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Probably the easiest decision.
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This guy has no redeeming qualities.
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I don't.
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I was just about to say that you took the words out of my mouth.
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First of all, this guy cuts off people's fingers without having any reason or logic behind
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that.
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So that itself is strike one.
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Strike two is unnecessary creepiness.
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Why is he so creepy and everything?
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It's so unnecessary.
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Where are his pants?
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Right?
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It's just so, so disgusting.
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Strike number three, why does he even want to do that?
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Like who wants to be cutting off people?
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Just back to my first point of there is no logic behind him, but the fact that he's so
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jolly about chasing someone and trying to cut their fingers off and urinal scissors,
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I think it's definitely a mother.
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I mean, when he is wheeling miles up there, he's saying things like, oh, we'll begin your
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consultation shortly.
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He's talking like he's an actual doctor, but he's acting more like a seven year old cutting
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up his teddy bears.
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But these are real people and there's no way to make that okay.
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There is no way to redeem yourself from that.
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He also implied that Miles is fat.
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He kind of insulted him when he lifted him out of the dumbwaiter.
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So that was a little uncalled for.
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He was a pretty good character though.
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I enjoy him as the character.
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He's freaky.
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I would like to know more about his backstory, especially when we know that he got the treatment.
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As disgusting and horrible as this character is, I do enjoy him.
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I don't know how long you even saw him or how often your eyes recovered while he was
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on screen.
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Pretty often.
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But yeah, so long mother-*****.
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No contest.
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He's probably by far the biggest mother-***** we've seen so far out of the two games.
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I would agree.
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Out of the three games, including this.
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I think chapter lookbacks were halfway through the game, but Miles doesn't seem any closer
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to finding the exit.
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So I don't even know how this is going to end or what part three is going to look like.
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Yeah, he saw that open door by the elevator and then Father Martin tells him to meet him
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outside.
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So I guess there is a way to get outside.
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This guy just keeps showing up at the right times.
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I mean, it does seem like he's trying to keep him alive.
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He doesn't want him to die.
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You know what?
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You just gave me an idea.
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When we first meet Father Martin, we kind of had that little blackout little moment,
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right?
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Do you think that Father Martin implanted some kind of GPS tracker device and that's
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how he's always finding him so easily?
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I mean, I don't know where he'd get one.
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I don't know if they have him there.
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It's a question that I don't have an answer to.
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Did he wake up the same person?
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Is he even alive?
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Is he dead?
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Anything could have happened in that blackout.
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Has Miles even looked at a mirror?
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No.
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So he doesn't even know if he looks deformed right now.
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It's true.
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Maybe someone gave him the treatment while he was passed out.
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There's that gap in time.
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I think you can just assume it's just he passed out and then Father Martin woke him up, but
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you never know.
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We don't know how much time went by.
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Are you going to be ready, Kathy?
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You got two more parts to go.
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Are you going to be able to handle it?
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This is the worst it gets in terms of goriness, probably, but if it's going to go downhill
24:23
from here, more eye covering.
24:26
I'm trying to think.
24:28
The DLC is by far the worst, but it's the shortest.
24:36
We'll upload part three of the gameplay on YouTube and we'll talk about it next week.
24:41
Take us out, Kathy.
24:43
Be grateful that you don't have anyone chasing after you to cut off your fingers with urinal
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scissors.
24:49
Stay away from urinal scissors, okay?
24:52
Far away.
24:53
Don't let anyone cut out your tongue and use it for stamps.
24:56
Research your doctors, maybe, beforehand.
25:00
And don't see any doctor that has an external blood supply.
25:04
Yes, and probably it would be a good idea to go to one that wears pants.
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On one for voice recorder.
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Three, two, one.