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8-26-26 KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne Hour 1 · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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  Speaker 1: From Houston and across the great state of Texas, this
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  Speaker 1: is KSEV Mornings with Craig Collins.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean anything at all.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the Thunderdome, people.
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  Speaker 1: News, opinions, politics, and the stories that matter to Texans.
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  Speaker 5: I shaved for this?
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  Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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  Speaker 4: Remember, everyone, just don't be yourselves.
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  Speaker 1: On KSEV AM 700, The Voice of Texas.
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  Speaker 6: Yes!
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome!
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  Speaker 7: Ah!
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  Speaker 8: And now, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah!
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  Speaker 2: This is the KSEV Morning Show. My name is Craig Collins.
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  Speaker 2: He would be Wayne Dolcefino. I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 2: coming in, to be honest with you today. As he
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  Speaker 2: was leaving the show yesterday, he's got some traveling he
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  Speaker 2: has to do. And he said he might make it
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  Speaker 2: for part of the show. He wasn't sure if that'd
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  Speaker 2: be the beginning, the end, the middle. And I was like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: it's your show. You're on the name along with me.
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  Speaker 2: So come in whenever you want. So Wayne Dolcefino is
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  Speaker 2: potentially going to pinch hit at some point during the
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  Speaker 2: next two hours. If not, we have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. I did hear Russell on the
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  Speaker 2: press box very much seem happy about The Astros defeating
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees yesterday, which was sad for me, but fine
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  Speaker 2: for you and everybody else. The Astros have the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: number and always have. I don't know why that is, Russell,
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  Speaker 2: but it seems to be true.
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  Speaker 1: You better hope they don't run into each other in
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  Speaker 1: the postseason.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so mad. I'm so mad that the Astros are
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  Speaker 2: in first place now and likely to actually make the
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  Speaker 2: postseason because, yeah, the Yankees would be screwed in that scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Anything else would be. I loved when you guys were
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  Speaker 2: in last place for a while. That was way better.
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  Speaker 2: What happened? It's just a bad division.
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  Speaker 9: Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
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  Speaker 2: Now I know. The Astros are the Astros, man. And
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  Speaker 2: I think you said they're finally healthy earlier this morning.
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  Speaker 2: They're healthier than they have been. Probably the healthiest they've
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  Speaker 2: been all year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's fair. Well, here we go. And the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: know how to crap the bed toward the end of anything.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. But it was an interesting game,
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  Speaker 2: a 9-7. Definitely fun. Lots of things out there to
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  Speaker 2: talk about in the world of news. One of the
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  Speaker 2: things that we probably should be talking about a lot
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  Speaker 2: is the wildfires that are going on in Texas. I
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  Speaker 2: saw that Fox News covered a lot of this, I think, yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: The massive wildfire in Fort Worth, 50,000 acres, some homes
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  Speaker 2: have been destroyed. I'll play a little bit of coverage
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  Speaker 2: of that story. If this actually plays, which maybe it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Is it plugged in? Is everything plugged in on that side? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the 360 should be plugged in yet. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: let's check and see if I'm not doing something right
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  Speaker 2: on my side, and then we'll get this going in
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  Speaker 2: just a second to make sure that this— oh, no, that
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  Speaker 2: should be right, too. All right, let's hit this. There
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  Speaker 2: it is. Okay, let's restart that audio and go again.
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  Speaker 10: West of Fort Worth has exploded in size, now scorching
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  Speaker 10: over 50,000 acres. The flames have destroyed several homes, and
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  Speaker 10: it's being fueled by triple-digit temperatures and incredibly dry conditions.
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  Speaker 10: Let's check in with meteorologist Adam Clark for our Fox
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  Speaker 10: weather forecast.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Adam.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, LJ.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, conditions are set up here where this fire
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  Speaker 3: could continue to grow. Currently, only 12% contained. You mentioned
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  Speaker 3: the 50,000 acres. There it is just off towards the
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  Speaker 3: west of Fort Worth. Winds are going to be an
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  Speaker 3: issue with this. That helps fuel the flames. You're looking
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  Speaker 3: at winds 20 to 30 miles an hour, 30 to
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  Speaker 3: 40 miles an hour there so far this morning. That
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  Speaker 3: can push those flames, allowing the system to continue to grow.
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  Speaker 3: And boy, has it been hot, not just across Texas,
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  Speaker 3: but across this entire region. Temperatures, again, will be climbing
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  Speaker 3: up to 100 degrees or more today. There'll be a
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  Speaker 3: couple isolated showers that'll pop up.
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  Speaker 1: Across that region.
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  Speaker 3: If they land in the right spot, that certainly would help.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's definitely been hot. We all would agree
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  Speaker 2: with that, I think. I assume this is hot for Texas,
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  Speaker 2: although I'm relatively new in the last couple years here.
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  Speaker 2: But the last two weeks and this whole week have
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  Speaker 2: been pretty brutal here. And so this is bad, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll follow it as we go. Only 12 percent
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  Speaker 2: of this fire is contained right now. I know that
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  Speaker 2: that's Fort Worth. It's not necessarily Houston, but it's a
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  Speaker 2: Texas story. So figured I'd keep us updated on everything
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  Speaker 2: going on there. And it's a byproduct of living in
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  Speaker 2: a place that's hot a lot of the year is
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  Speaker 2: that occasionally these sort of things happen. It is not
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  Speaker 2: at all a climate change thing. even though people will
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  Speaker 2: claim that, yell that, and try to pivot a conversation
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  Speaker 2: that probably should just be about people's homes and destruction
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  Speaker 2: of property into something about politics, which always annoys me.
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  Speaker 2: But that'll probably happen. At some point, you'll hear someone
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  Speaker 2: or see someone in social media telling you that what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in Fort Worth is indicative of climate change.
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  Speaker 2: And again, just saying it's not. All right. I want
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  Speaker 2: to play some Ken Paxton audio. Texans are choosing between
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  Speaker 2: grocery bills and electricity bills, according to the post he
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  Speaker 2: put up on social social media. If you vote for Tallarico,
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  Speaker 2: things would get much, much worse for you. Things like
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  Speaker 2: the added property taxes that are happening here and so
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  Speaker 2: many other places throughout this state. And Ken Bax is
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  Speaker 2: actually fighting a lot of these property tax increases in
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  Speaker 2: any way that he can by limiting what people can
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  Speaker 2: at what cities can actually do. As all of this
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  Speaker 2: is occurring, it's simply true to just state out loud
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  Speaker 2: that if Tallarico gets into a position of power, those
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  Speaker 2: decisions to put more costs to your day-to-day life would
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  Speaker 2: absolutely go up. Here's Ken Paxson.
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  Speaker 11: Senate Bill 667 stopped Texas from sending your tax dollars
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  Speaker 11: to companies controlled by the Communist Party. He voted no
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  Speaker 11: on that, too. While Texans are struggling to make ends meet,
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  Speaker 11: Tallarico voted to let your taxpayer dollars go to Chinese companies.
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  Speaker 11: Think about that for a second. Texans are choosing between
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  Speaker 11: the grocery bill and the electric bill right now. And
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  Speaker 11: James Tallarico voted to take their taxpayer dollars and then
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  Speaker 11: put them in the pockets of the Chinese Communist Party.
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  Speaker 4: That's a reality.
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  Speaker 12: That's not just a policy disagreement. It calls into question
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  Speaker 12: whose side you're on. Eight years as a politician... James
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  Speaker 12: Tallarico didn't vote against China even once.
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  Speaker 4: He just.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I really like about this. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: what I really like. This is finally doing the thing
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  Speaker 2: that we've needed to have from Tallarico, from, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: Paxson's campaign about Tallarico the moment he won the runoff.
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  Speaker 2: You have to start talking about the voting record. You
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  Speaker 2: have to start talking about all the crazy things that
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  Speaker 2: he says, which we've heard before, but you have to
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  Speaker 2: do more of it. You have to put it in
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  Speaker 2: all the campaign ads that are blanketed all over television.
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  Speaker 2: I see Governor Abbott's ads often, and I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not upset by that, but I don't see any
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  Speaker 2: ads for Paxton at all, and that's a problem. We
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  Speaker 2: need to have some more Paxton ads added to the
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  Speaker 2: coffers here, and mostly it's really just going to be
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  Speaker 2: Tallarico running against himself. Wayne and I said that yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and I will repeat it again today because it's true.
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  Speaker 2: The worst person to potentially inform Texans about how horrible
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  Speaker 2: and crazy and radical Tallarico is, the person most capable
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  Speaker 2: of doing that is Tallarico. You just have to have
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  Speaker 2: someone else playing those videos on a loop. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the ones that went viral this week, but it's old,
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  Speaker 2: and we talked about it earlier this week too, but
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  Speaker 2: it's this one. It's the neighbors with a uterus thing.
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  Speaker 6: Citizens Every one of our neighbors with a uterus became
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  Speaker 6: the property of the state government.
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  Speaker 2: OK, so two things are insane about that statement. First,
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  Speaker 2: he says every one of our neighbors with a uterus
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  Speaker 2: just call them women. And then the other thing that's
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  Speaker 2: insane about that is that he says that they're now
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  Speaker 2: properties of the state because we want to protect babies
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  Speaker 2: that are alive inside of women's bodies that should have rights.
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  Speaker 2: That is a crazy, crazy. I want to play that again, because,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, it went very viral. It's old. It's
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  Speaker 2: definitely not a thing he did this weekend, although he
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  Speaker 2: could have. That's the other point. I guess I'll make
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  Speaker 2: this point first before I play again on the audio.
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  Speaker 2: Every time one of these things goes viral, Tallarico's reaction
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  Speaker 2: will be, I don't think that anymore. And that should
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  Speaker 2: not work with any voters on either side of the aisle,
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  Speaker 2: because it's not like these things are 15, 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And there's been a profound change in Tallarico's voting record
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  Speaker 2: and or behavior since. Since he said that crazy stuff,
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  Speaker 2: there's been there's been no transition. Oh, it's a weird
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  Speaker 2: word to choose, but it's true. There's been no transition there.
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  Speaker 2: And then suddenly when he's actually the candidate for a
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  Speaker 2: statewide race, he's claiming there is. He's doing a very
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  Speaker 2: sloppy version of I promise I'm not as as insane
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  Speaker 2: as I seem to be. Now, please vote for me
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  Speaker 2: so I can go be crazy in the Senate. Here,
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  Speaker 2: let's play this again.
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  Speaker 4: Citizens.
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  Speaker 6: Every one of our neighbors with a uterus became the
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  Speaker 6: property of the state legislature.
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  Speaker 2: No, they didn't become the property of the state, and
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  Speaker 2: that's also an insane thing to say. All right, one
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  Speaker 2: last piece of audio that I do want to play
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  Speaker 2: as far as Texas stories, Texas-related news goes. And I
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  Speaker 2: have Beto O'Rourke audio that we might play later on.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe that people still bring Beto out places
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  Speaker 2: and talk to him about politics. Like, you'd think that
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  Speaker 2: that guy would go away, but no, of course not.
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  Speaker 2: But I do want to play this. This is something
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  Speaker 2: that happened about a week ago. It's Greg Abbott on
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  Speaker 2: This Week. And part of the discussion is about the,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe this was just a couple days ago, the
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  Speaker 2: idea of gas prices determining our election. And I think
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  Speaker 2: Abbott gave a much better answer than he's giving credit for. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: we probably should take a break. So we can take
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  Speaker 2: a break first. We can come back and play this audio.
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  Speaker 2: But Carl on ABC. on this week asked Abbott if
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  Speaker 2: the gas price promises of the past, saying that he'd
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  Speaker 2: reduce the prices from three dollars and 60 cents down
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  Speaker 2: to two bucks, are going to hurt us in the
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  Speaker 2: midterm elections here in Texas or Republicans throughout the country.
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  Speaker 2: I'll play the audio of how Abbott answered the question,
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  Speaker 2: which I thought was actually a really good answer, and
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  Speaker 2: how I tend to agree with him. That coming up
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  Speaker 2: in a bit. This is KSEV Mornings. I'm Craig Collins.
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  Speaker 17: So you said recently that the price of gas in
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  Speaker 17: Texas would be below $ 2.
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  Speaker 4: By the end of the summer.
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  Speaker 3: Are voters going to punish you and other Republicans if
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  Speaker 3: it's not?
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  Speaker 4: Because right now in averages 360 a gallon here in Texas.
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  Speaker 3: And we're halfway through August, more than halfway through.
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  Speaker 18: So when voters go vote in November, they will vote
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  Speaker 18: on contrast and make a choice about do they want
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  Speaker 18: the Republican or the Democrat candidate? And the answer to
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  Speaker 18: that is far more complex than just one price point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you said it was going to be below $ 2.
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  Speaker 4: I get that.
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  Speaker 18: But also I say, that I want safe communities, whereas
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  Speaker 18: our opponents, they vote to defund the police. I say
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  Speaker 18: that I want to cut taxes where our opponents, they'll
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  Speaker 18: jack up costs far more than the price of gas.
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  Speaker 4: Our opponents.
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  Speaker 18: They voted for a state income tax. They voted for
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  Speaker 18: a death tax. They voted to increase property taxes. When
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  Speaker 18: voters realize that, when these Democrats want to increase property taxes,
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  Speaker 18: they will vote hostilities.
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  Speaker 4: And they're not going to mind.
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  Speaker 11: If gas is still over three bucks a gallon?
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you what.
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  Speaker 2: I really dislike the way that this interview went. This
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  Speaker 2: is KSCV Mornings. My name is Craig Collins. Wayne Dolcefino
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  Speaker 2: is on assignment today, although he might show up. I'm
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  Speaker 2: hearing that there might be some amount of time where
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  Speaker 2: he is actually here, although he is traveling. So we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I hate about the way this interview goes. Carl,
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  Speaker 2: of course, John Carl challenges Republicans far more than he
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  Speaker 2: ever challenges Democrats. He'll claim that's not true, but it is.
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  Speaker 2: But also just the repeating of the idea that gas
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  Speaker 2: prices alone are actually a decision maker for most voters,
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  Speaker 2: when the reality is, as Abbott is pointing out, gas
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  Speaker 2: prices wouldn't go down if Democrats got into a position
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  Speaker 2: of power. In fact, other costs will continue to go up. Like,
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  Speaker 2: here's the stupidity, in my opinion, of voting a certain
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  Speaker 2: way on a certain issue is voting for the team
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  Speaker 2: that made it worse when they were in office without
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  Speaker 2: a fight, without a conflict. And so let's say Democrats
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  Speaker 2: were to assume power in enough places to do some
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  Speaker 2: real harm. I know that they can't actually unilaterally get
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  Speaker 2: us out of Iran and the Iran conflict. So gas
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  Speaker 2: prices won't be changed if that's the catalyst making it worse.
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  Speaker 2: But they love to fight oil and gas companies. So
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  Speaker 2: let's assume that people like when Biden was in office
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  Speaker 2: are in places like Senate seats in Tallarico and they
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  Speaker 2: go after oil and gas. Guess what happens to your
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  Speaker 2: gas prices? They go up even higher. So those get worse.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get better. So that's the stupidity, the lack
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  Speaker 2: of logic to me of people who advocate for voting
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  Speaker 2: for the other side. If they want some prices to
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  Speaker 2: go down is you actually do have to vote for
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  Speaker 2: people who will bring them down. You can't just vote
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  Speaker 2: another side in office that doesn't believe in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this stuff and go, all right, that'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be way better. We'll have everything go the way
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  Speaker 2: we want now. It makes no sense. As far as
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  Speaker 2: other terrible policies that the Democrats have and they would
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  Speaker 2: like to essentially force down our throats if they get
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  Speaker 2: into power, are DEI policies. And Tallarico did an interview
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  Speaker 2: where recently he talked about DEI and the legislation that
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  Speaker 2: limits some of it here because it's inherently racist. Choosing
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  Speaker 2: people based on their race for jobs is not good.
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  Speaker 2: It's bad. It's illegal. It's racist. The Supreme Court has
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  Speaker 2: decided that. And it's obvious. I don't care what race
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  Speaker 2: you are. I'm not saying this just to defend white
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  Speaker 2: people because I'm a white guy. I think people should
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  Speaker 2: get jobs based on their ability to do a job.
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  Speaker 2: End statement. I see that Carlos is calling in. Carlos,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: how are you doing, buddy?
• 17:07
  Speaker 19: Hey, Greg, good morning. Like I said, I was telling
• 17:11
  Speaker 19: the guy to answer the phone. I live in Spring.
• 17:14
  Speaker 19: Like I told you before, I'm an independent voter.
• 17:16
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 19: And since I moved, I'm looking at how to get
• 17:20
  Speaker 19: the hell out of Harris County because in five years
• 17:23
  Speaker 19: that I bought my home, my taxes have gone up $ 500.
• 17:26
  Speaker 19: And I was listening to the radio the other day,
• 17:29
  Speaker 19: and they're thinking of raising it even more, between $ 200
• 17:33
  Speaker 19: and $ 300 more a year.
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 17:34
  Speaker 20: I know.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I know, that's actually something that they're contemplating doing in
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Harris County. And this is the point, Carlos, is that
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: if people choose to vote based on one or two issues,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: like ABC apparently is hoping they do in Texas, because
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: they obviously want a Democrat to be a senator from
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: this state, things don't get better just because you switch teams.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: They actually get inherently worse because of the policies on
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that side.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 17:59
  Speaker 19: So like I said, I don't know if there's any
• 18:01
  Speaker 19: other independent voters listening out there that are not thinking
• 18:04
  Speaker 19: of voting or or voting blues in November, but please don't,
• 18:09
  Speaker 19: because I'm not lying. The reason I'm voting, if moving
• 18:12
  Speaker 19: or not, is because, you know, we all know the
• 18:14
  Speaker 19: rates are really high right now.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 18:15
  Speaker 19: But if not, I would have moved already, because I'm
• 18:17
  Speaker 19: not lying. $ 500 in five years, and they just announced
• 18:21
  Speaker 19: another tax rate on the home property.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another $ 300. It's just crazy. Yeah, they want your money.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: They want it any way they can get it. Thank
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you for the call, Carlos. Anything else you wanted to
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: tell me before I let you go?
• 18:31
  Speaker 19: Yeah, just don't remember he's trying to create some other
• 18:35
  Speaker 19: type of policing too.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 18:37
  Speaker 19: Some crazy thing about it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can talk about that later.
• 18:40
  Speaker 19: This guy's crazy. So have a great day. I love you.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 18:43
  Speaker 19: I'm glad I can listen to you in the morning.
• 18:45
  Speaker 19: And actually, I can listen to you for two hours,
• 18:47
  Speaker 19: so that's even better.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 18:48
  Speaker 17: Thanks, man.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in. Carlos was a regular caller
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to the evening show that I was doing here. Very
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: nice guy. And as he says, independent voter, as you
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: can tell by his accent. He's a liberty-loving Latino, just
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: like Chris Salcedo was. I love it. I love hearing
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: from anybody. If you want to call in, be a
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: part of the show, you can. I do want to
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: play this audio that I was setting up, Tallarico and DEI,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: because this is the point that the listener is making
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and that I'm making, and that some are, I think, very...
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the right word for it is.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: They're being morons in how they behave about this, or
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: just assuming that that if you remove a Republican from
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: a position of power that things get better. The reason
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the state does so well, the reason Texas has a surplus,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: all the different aspects of what is great about the state,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: not necessarily the city that we live in, it's Republican control.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You don't want to start to hand that over, especially
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: not a seat as important as a Senate seat, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: just assume that somehow that's going to make your gas
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: prices better. I think that, and we're actually going to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: have an economist on tomorrow, E.J. Antoni of the Heritage Foundation,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and he's going to dive much deeper into a lot
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of the different things going on within the economy. But
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think the likelihood of the economy getting better is
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: irrelevant to who you put in power to a degree.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is there's certain things
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: that are balls that are rolling. And I would give
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the Trump administration a lot of credit for these balls
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: that are rolling as they are mostly removing restrictions on
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: oil and gas companies that are pushing us toward lower
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: costs across the board. Now, granted, a lot of the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: companies have to play ball and actually lower their prices,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: which we'll see if that actually happens. And we as
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: consumers can sort of force that by just not buying
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: things that we think are too expensive. That is a
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: power we have. If you think something costs too much,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: buy a different version of it. Buy another brand or don't.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Don't buy it at all. Just find something that replaces it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: That is a way that we can help to push
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: costs down. But nonetheless, what I mean by it's irrelevant
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to who's in power is if Democrats want to pretend
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: that their policies actually create lower prices, They'll just allow
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that ball to roll for a bit, but then they'll
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: mess with it. Nothing that they see as good stays
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: good for us. It always gets terrible because they see
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: opportunities to inject back in a whole bunch of costs
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: to you and to me. And Carlos is pointing that
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: out so great in just property taxes itself. $ 500 over
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the last few years that he pays in property taxes
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: additionally from what he paid when he first moved and
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a $ 200 to $ 300 raise. depending on the typical cost
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: of your home and some other math they do there.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. I think it's the second biggest raise, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Senator Betancourt has talked about this a lot, that we're
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: expecting to see in this area ever. And they're doing
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: this at a time when people are struggling, and ABC
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: News is trying to convince you that the reason you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: would vote for a Democrat and not a Republican is
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: gas prices, and they're still trying to force a $ 300
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: bill down your throat? All right, I've set this up
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a lot. I really should play it. Here is Tallarico
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: on DEI.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: In my first session, I introduced a package of bills
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: called the Whole Student Agenda. And the idea was to
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: treat children as human beings first and students second and
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: focus on things like mental health in school, restorative justice, diversity, equity,
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: and inclusion being taught in the classroom.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said this just the other day, diversity, equity,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and inclusion being taught in classrooms. This is something that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: demonstrates how radical he is compared to the average Texan.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Because when the Supreme Court weighed in on certain DEI practices,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to universities, the decision seemed to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: be praised by most people here in the state. Because
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I want everyone that I know to deserve the job
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that they got. And I remember that Charlie Kirk used
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to talk about this a lot. And when he died,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: one of the craziest things that happened on the left
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: is people claimed that he was a racist because of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a way that he discussed this topic. And so very quickly,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I know we're up against a break in another couple minutes,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say the exact same thing Charlie Kirk said.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: If he were sitting on a plane, if I were
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: sitting on a plane, and a black guy walks in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to fly the plane, I don't want DEI to make
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: me wonder if this person is good at this job.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think that if DEI is not a thing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you look like, black, white, it
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter to me if I can assume that there's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: no policy in place trying to aggressively hire people based
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: on race. but just based on skill, then I won't
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: even contemplate for a second the qualifications of someone. It's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: not inherent in me to see someone that looks different
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: than me and think that they're not qualified for whatever
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: their job is. But DEI creates that opportunity to have
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: that thought. And that thought itself is bad. Everything about
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: that conversation is bad. And we need to do everything
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: we can to distance ourselves from terrible decision-making that aggressively
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: allows people with lesser qualifications to to get gigs they
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have. That was the entire point, that Charlie Kirk
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: was making exactly the way I just made it, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: he was accused of being a racist. And he said
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the only reason that he doubted someone's qualifications was political
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: agenda and political celebration of hiring people based on their race.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And I'll say this one last thing about this topic
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: because it's always mystified me. Not that I want to
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: help the bad guys do a better job with the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: thing they're trying to do, But the bad guys would
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: like to hire people based on qualifications other than skill.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they need to say that part
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: out loud. If they really wanted to do it, they
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: could just do it. They could just hire people, not
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: tell us it's DEI, and just keep living their lives.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But the politicians want political points. They don't care about
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: our society. They don't care about what's right and wrong,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: who should and shouldn't be given certain positions, as I said,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: based on their skill set. All they care about is
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: political points and getting reelected. So that's why they do it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: A DEI in Tallarico is not a thing they're doing
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: because they actually are trying to make things fair for
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: people they think are being treated poorly. They're doing it
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: because they're trying to buy your vote in any way
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: they can, and we need to stop them. All right,
• 25:05
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• 25:09
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• 25:12
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• 25:21
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  Speaker 2: This is KSCV Morning. My name is Craig Collins. Wayne
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Del Trofino is on special assignment today, traveling. Hopefully we
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: hear from him just a little bit. I keep hoping
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: that that might happen because as he was walking out yesterday,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: he goes, maybe I'll come in for an hour. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I said, you absolutely can, sir, if you want. He's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: welcome anytime. He can just call it and be a
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: part of the show. And we actually are working. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: should tell everybody just quickly. I should tell the audience
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: this on ways for him to contribute when he travels
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: because he travels a lot. So we're trying to figure
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: out the best way. to make sure that if Wayne
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: has the time that he can also jump in and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: be a part of the show, even for just a
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: little bit, or even maybe via, uh, some sort of recorded, um,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: news breaking thing, uh, some sort of reporting style thing
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that he's doing because he's uncovering a lot of dirt
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: every day, which I'm very jealous of. I'll just put
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: that out there too. Um, I think that what Wayne
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Dolcefino has been doing over the course of his career is,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: is uniquely cool. And that very few people are actually
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: doing that, uh, nowadays. Um, Nick Shirley is another name
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that's doing stuff like this too, but there's just so
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: few people even trying to find answers because of how
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: hard it is, I think, to get to them that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great thing that happens all the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: time that is part of the reason why Wayne's not
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: going to be here as much as we'd like. All right,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: let's play this first. I'm going to get to some
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Beto O'Rourke audio at one point. I have a little
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: bit more about Texas races, but I do want to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: first play an announcement from last night that Darlene Graham
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: had won her runoff and that she is now going
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to face a Democrat in the midterm elections to try
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to retain the seat. that her brother had in the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: South Carolina Senate before he passed away, of course. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: then it was temporarily given to Darlene. And a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: of people thought she wouldn't actually run for it. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: she has. And I think a lot of people are
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: also debating her conservative credentials, whether or not she'll actually
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: do the job well, if she'll lean a certain way
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: on issues that Lindsey did not lean on. But the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: president seems very happy about this. President Trump has been
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: celebrating and did celebrate on Truth Social the announcement that
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Graham had won. Here we go.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: The Associated Press just called the race. You may have
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: heard the cheers that erupted in the room just a
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: few seconds after 9 p.m. Darlene Graham by the Associated
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Press declared the winner in this primary runoff against Congressman
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Ralph Norman. This race closely watched, and it was close,
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: as the pundits were suggesting it was going to be.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: I spoke to Darlene Graham's staff just as the polls
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: were closing, and they told me that they expected this
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: to be quite close.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's pretty easy to assume what's
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: happening here. President Trump has been advocating for Darlene Graham
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the entire way. He's going to expect the same level
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: of loyalty that Lindsay had for him and the policies
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and the things he wanted to get done and the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: votes to go the way that they're going to go.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And as long as she does that, he'll probably be
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: pretty happy with her. Will a lot of other people
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: be happy with the decisions she makes? I'm not sure.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And will she actually do that? Will she actually follow
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: through and vote similarly to Lindsay on a wide variety
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of issues? Here's the reason I think she will, by
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the way. I think the legacy of the person that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you're replacing matters more to family than anyone else. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: if Darlene makes radically different decisions than the ones that
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham would have made, I think that she impacts
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: his legacy because of their close connection, their familial connection.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't think she's really in a position where
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: she can do that because I doubt she wants to
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: hurt the legacy of her brother by being someone who
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: gets criticized for just being absolutely different in a lot
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: of that decision making. Even if she doesn't totally believe
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: or agree with some of the things she winds up
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: voting for, I think there's a chance she does it
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: because she asks herself right before she says yes or
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: no to a bill, what would Lindsay do? And then
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: she does the same thing more often than, say, other
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: politicians might who are much more content, I think, on
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: doing whatever they want for them and for them alone.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It's actually not a bad thing to have a politician
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: think of someone else when voting yes or no. A
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: lot of them should be thinking about you and me.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: A lot of them who don't think about this at
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: all should wonder how it impacts their own constituents back home,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: wherever they live. Of course, that's not actually in their brains.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: But I think this is the next best step, in
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: my opinion. I want to play this. This is on
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Chris Cuomo's show. This was a conversation with Turning Point
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: USA about whether or not 2028 would be fundamentally different if, say,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: an AOC presidency for some reason somehow actually happened. This
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: is a crazy thing. for people to talk about. But
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting. Let's play a little bit
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of this. The math does not math.
• 32:40
  Speaker 22: When you have open borders, which the Democrats are probably
• 32:43
  Speaker 22: going to- No open borders.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: No open borders. And in fact, I bet you- You
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: feel confident about that?
• 32:48
  Speaker 22: If the Democrats, say it's 2028 and AOC wins the presidency,
• 32:52
  Speaker 22: do you think, or Ossoff or whoever, Mark Kelly, do
• 32:57
  Speaker 22: you think that the border is going to remain shut?
• 33:00
  Speaker 22: Or do you think there's going to be a massive
• 33:02
  Speaker 22: wave of immigrants that go, oh, Democrat in power.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go in. Let's get in. Absolutely. He's right
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: about that. And that, I think, is the whole point
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of the show today for people to believe that switching
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: sides at a time when you're unhappy with something. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: if I'm to understand this, because here, you know what?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Let me do it this way. President Trump won every
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: swing state, right? President Trump won the popular vote. Correct. OK, good.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: You're with me so far. So my belief was that
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: in 2024, a whole lot of people were pretty big
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: fans of the stuff that President Trump was promising. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: one of the only promises that has not been delivered
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: was a promise not to be in any sort of conflict.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: But when I evaluate the conflict in Iran, what I
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: see is a need to actually fight people who fund
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: terrorism and are trying to get closer and closer to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon and are demonstrating, by the way, exactly
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: why just letting things be as they were letting the
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Obama deal sit and not doing anything different. They're demonstrating
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: how terrible of a plan that would be by how
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: much they lie, how many of these negotiations have gone
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: one way according to our team and a very different
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: way according to them. And when they're in the position
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: to actually sign a document that says they're going to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: do all the stuff they agreed to verbally, they don't
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: sign it because they're not going to do it. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: even if they did sign a document at some point
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: with us, I think they've demonstrated they won't follow through
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and actually do the things that we require them to do.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And so we are making different demands. I guess the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: best way to say that is when it comes to Iran,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: we are asking for them to prove that what they
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: agree to is what they actually do. And that's the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: part they hate the most. And so when I evaluate
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: that conflict, I don't see it as a broken promise
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: by President Trump as much as I see it as
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a thing that we needed to do, even if we
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: didn't want to do it, and that Trump has the
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: balls to do things like that when we don't want
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: to do them. That is what I believe to be
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the case. That's what I believe to be the reason
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: for that decision. And some people can say, oh, you're
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: just a Trump fanboy. You're an over-the-top MAGA person.
• 35:10
  Speaker 20: No.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: To yourself, think about whether or not it made sense
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: to allow Iran to keep barreling toward a nuclear weapon.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: And if you come up with the answer no, then
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: you actually have to decide what you do. And I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: guess this is actually the better point, too. to talk
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: about as far as this topic goes. I find this
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to be the case a lot when I have conversations
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: with people about things they don't like that are happening
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: in the world. They can be in government. They can
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: be in your everyday life. They can be in any scenario.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You pick the situation, but anything. And often they'll tell
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: me what the problem is. And I'll look at them
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and I'll listen to the problem. And whether there's someone
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that I agree with or not, and I think that
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: maybe the problem isn't what they think it is, you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: have to ask an important second question. Every time someone
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: tells you what's broken, you have to ask them, well,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: how do you fix it? And that's where we actually
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: have the most disagreement. Most of us can agree that
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: this is broken, that this is bad over here, that
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: we need to do something better there. But how we
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: actually fix it is literally, I think, the entirety of
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: how one side, the left, gets so mad at the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: right every time they scream and yell something and don't
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: actually offer a plan. It's it reminds me very often
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: of when Kamala Harris was being asked during the campaign
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: that she profoundly lost to Trump, where the country showed
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: itself to like a lot of the things that he
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: was saying, that she didn't have a lot of policies.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: It didn't have a lot of decisions and answers to questions,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: because if they do tell us what they want to do,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: it's radically to the left and it'll harm our country more.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: And so that's sort of the reason why they keep
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: some of that stuff a secret. They keep it behind
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: closed doors. Because they want to motivate you to vote
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: based on emotion and based solely on just what you
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: think is broken. And then the idea that they'll fix it,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: not the reality that they will. So to go back
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: to the Turning Point USA discussion, if 2028 somehow goes
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to the Democrats, of course the borders open again. And
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the biggest reason why, actually the biggest salvo in the
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: entirety of this discussion about how we protect this state
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: and this country is, is to have a Republican win Texas.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you exactly why. Because if it doesn't happen,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the left will think that the open border policy was
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: used to flood people into this state, not just this country,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: that then absolutely overwhelmingly voted for them and allowed a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: state that was deeply red and assumed to be not
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a state where a contest would happen, to be a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: state where we have a close race. If that works,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: they will do more of it, not less of it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: We're up against a break in just a couple minutes,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: so I'll take a call first, and then we'll get
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to that break. John, you called into the KCV morning show.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: What do you want to say?
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: I want to go back, if you don't mind, Craig,
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: to your comment about whether Donald Trump lied about Iran
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: and whether he was justified in attacking.
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: Sure.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: What changed with respect to Iran's nuclear program.
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: From the time that he said he would never.
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: Attack Iran and attacking Iran was stupid, until the time
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: he actually did what he said he wouldn't do.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that they got closer and closer to,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and they intended to create a nuclear weapon. That's what changed.
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: What is your basis for that belief?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they were enriching uranium up to one stage just before,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the stage in which it becomes a nuclear weapon,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: and they were continuing to I mean, the reason that
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: we bombed a year ago a facility in which they
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: were creating nuclear power is because we thought they were
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: trying to create a nuclear weapon. And that was not
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: a solely American belief. But are you going to tell
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: me you believe the opposite?
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you that I don't believe that
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: the amount of enriched uranium that Iran possessed changed from
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: the time that Donald Trump made that promise. Until the
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: time that he attacked Iran.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: OK, that's that's a very blanket statement first, John. And
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you two things in response to it. First,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: do you think that they enrich that uranium to a
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: higher quality to get it closer to weapons grade, um
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you know 90 enrichment which they were doing they absolutely
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: were doing more and more of that their uranium was
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: getting closer and closer to being useful because you do
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: understand that part too right the quality to which you
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: enrich uranium gets it closer and closer to being to
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: a uh uh you know weapon itself we agree on
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that i did okay So they were doing more of that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: I do understand.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: So they were doing more of that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 24: Go ahead.
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: I do understand that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: So they were doing more of that. They were getting
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: closer and closer to having an amount of uranium that's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: valuable as a nuclear weapon that was larger than it
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: was before. They were also continuing to research nuclear weapons
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: in a way that Obama said they weren't allowed to.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: They just kept doing it. But here's the better point.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: When you say, what do I.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: May I push back on that?
• 40:11
  Speaker 16: I don't agree with that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 40:13
  Speaker 16: I do agree with you that you had to.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: Have uranium of a certain missile purity, I don't agree
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: that there's any evidence that Iran was making more such uranium.
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: I don't believe there's any evidence that you possess or
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: I possess.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: What makes you believe that? What evidence are you using
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to believe that?
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: Because the Iranians were.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: Under an inspection regime by the International Atomic Energy Agency.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: And that agency provided its findings as to how much
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: of such fissile material Iran possessed.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you don't think there's any way that somehow
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: in some way Iran was trying to skirt those inspections
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and requirements? And let's do this more simplistically, because I
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: think there's a more valuable simplistic discussion here. Do you
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: think Iran wants to make a nuclear weapon?
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: I think it may now. I don't think it did
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: prior to the assassination of.
• 41:19
  Speaker 16: The Ayatollah, who had issued.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: A fatwa declaring that nuclear weapons were immoral and against Islam.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: If I were Iran, I would try to develop a
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: nuclear weapon as a matter of self-preservation.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And you'd do that because of Trump. You'd blame Trump
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: I blame Trump for violating the Constitution and attacking another
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: country without just pause.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Did Obama violate the Constitution when he attacked Libya? Yes. Okay,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: so you're a blanket across the board that no president
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: is allowed to act as a commander-in-chief of the military,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: even though they absolutely are, and they're allowed to conflict
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: with someone else long before we actually call it a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: war in Congress. You think that every president should ask
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: for every military action to be approved by Congress?
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: Not every military action. Every president, in fact, every commander
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: in the military is entitled to act in self-defense to
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: repel a sudden attack. But I do believe that all
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: presidents are bound by the Constitution, don't you?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I do believe that all presidents are bound by the Constitution,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: but we have a different interpretation of what the commander-in-chief
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: is allowed to do with our military than And when
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: something is actually a war as, you know, anointed one
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: by Congress and a conflict that the United States is
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: choosing to do for exactly the reason you just said,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: protecting ourselves. Protecting ourselves isn't just shooting a missile down
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: that's fired toward our country. Protecting ourselves is preventing someone
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: from inevitably firing a missile toward our country that might
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: blow up all of New York. There's a very big
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: difference between saying that we can protect ourselves and then
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: you determining what that looks like because you and I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: are not actually the presidents.
• 43:02
  Speaker 24: He is.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And his justification for attacking Iran, just like anyone else's
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: justification for any fight they they create, is self-preservation at
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Of the day.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That is what they say. Whether you believe it or not,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I don't really care. So it makes their action justified
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: within the Constitution.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: If you don't if you don't care what.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: You know, you're you're.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: No, I don't care. I don't care if you believe
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: or not.
• 43:28
  Speaker 16: If you don't carry your partner, thanks for the conversation.
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: What is the point of the conversation? Well, you're not open.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: To be waited.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Hold on.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Hold on, John. I didn't say I didn't care about
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: anything that you were saying. I didn't care about whether
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: or not you believed that Trump was telling the truth
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: when he said that he was fighting to protect our
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: country by attacking Iran in the first place. Because it's
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: not up for you and I to determine that. It's
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: not actually intent to offend you. That statement, that statement.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And I've respected a lot of the other things you said,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: even though I disagree with them. But we don't get
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: to decide whether or not Trump did this for the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: right reasons. If people think he didn't, there's a whole
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: process for how you go ahead and try to get
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: him in trouble for that. And that's not occurring. Because
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: they can't really do that anyway. And so when you
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: say out loud that he didn't follow the Constitution, I
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: fundamentally disagree with you. And I think I mapped out
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: how he didn't how he did, in fact, follow the
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: rights to the Constitution and how he acted, in his opinion,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: in a way to defend our country. Did you have
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: a what.
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: Is your interpretation of Congress's war powers? When it says
• 44:32
  Speaker 16: in the.
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: Constitution that Congress and only Congress has the power to
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: declare war, what does that mean to you?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: What type of fight are we having with Iran right now?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think it has to be classified.
• 44:44
  Speaker 15: As a war?
• 44:47
  Speaker 16: It is a war.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I mean that genuinely. Do we have boots on the ground?
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: No, we don't have to have boots on the ground
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: to have a war. That's ridiculous.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: It's not. What I mean is in a strike and
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: an attack at first and how long Obama fought in
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Libya or anywhere else, all of those things that the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: president does, they don't actually legally in the world of
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: our government call them the thing that Congress has to approve.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: They call them conflicts and strikes. And then there was
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a ceasefire because within a certain amount of time, if
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the ceasefire didn't exist, there might have been a need
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: for Congress to act. But that went away. When the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: ceasefire occurred and then there's another military campaign, there's other
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: words to choose for this, John, because that's how he's
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: not in trouble. Like if Trump had actually skirted the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Constitution the way you seem to perceive him to have
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: doing have done it. Don't you think Democrats would be
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: trying to impeach him right now? They're not. Why are
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: they not trying to impeach him, John?
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: Because they wish to preserve for themselves.
• 45:47
  Speaker 16: The power, when their.
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: Man is back in office, to act unilaterally as well.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: The Democrats are just as evil as the Republicans when
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: it comes to launching force of aggression against other countries.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I agree with that. Tell me politically, do you think
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: that you're an independent? Do you think you're on the
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: right or the left? Where are you?
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: I don't believe in that left-right continual.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so how do you describe yourself politically? I'm just curious.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Do you describe yourself as America first? Were you a
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: big fan of Salcedo's show?
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: Oh, yes, I was a big fan of the Salcedo show,
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: but I'm not– I wouldn't describe myself as American first.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: Chris actually asked me this question, and I said I'm
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: an anarchist.
• 46:29
  Speaker 23: Okay.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Anarchist. That's fine.
• 46:33
  Speaker 16: Why do you find that funny?
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: The reason you laugh is because you don't know what
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: anarchy means. What do you think anarchy means?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: No, that's not the reason I laugh.
• 46:42
  Speaker 16: What do you think anarchy means?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: What do you think the solutions to certain things are
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: in our world via your political belief?
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: To get rid of states.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Right, to just get rid of the government entirely, right?
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Because that's what anarchy means.
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: To get rid of all states.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Anarchy means to abolish government and to get rid of
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of things.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: Anarchy means to live without a ruler. Anarchy. Without anarchy
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: and a ruler.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Without ruler.
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: That's what it means.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I get it. Our definitions are the same in the
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: world in which we currently live, where we have a
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: government that chooses for us what to do. I got
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: a bump plan, which I think we went way past
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: where the break was supposed to be. But when all
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: that happens, if all government, all that goes away, John,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: what do you think happens next? Everybody lives in utopia?
• 47:32
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: There will never be a perfect world. Okay.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Well, your world is uniquely messy. Thank you so much
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: for the call, John. I appreciate it. I do think
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: that you're making some judgment calls that you seem to
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: accuse me of based on belief and not hardcore facts,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: because neither of us really know behind closed doors what
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: our government actually knew about Iran and its proximity to
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. Neither of us definitively knows that because,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: darn it, they're never going to tell us that. So
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: we're both going to make a belief I've made a
• 48:03
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  Speaker 2: the voice of Texas. My name is Craig Collins filling in.
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  Speaker 2: Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. I love John's call from before because he
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  Speaker 2: said he likes the Constitution, even though the Constitution created
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  Speaker 2: authority and power that he doesn't like because the Constitution
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  Speaker 2: did create the government that he would like to completely obliterate.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to just go back to the way
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  Speaker 2: it was designed to be, which sadly it is not
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  Speaker 2: any longer the because I think that that version of
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  Speaker 2: government is much better than anarchy, where people are just
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be nice to one another because. And human
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  Speaker 2: beings who don't do that are just being mean and
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  Speaker 2: then eventually doing other horrible stuff. That's essentially the overarching
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  Speaker 2: message for him. And he would absolutely hate police if
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  Speaker 2: he truly describes himself as an anarchist, because he hates
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  Speaker 2: all power, all authority. He'd hate his own boss, which
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  Speaker 2: is sort of funny to me. I'd hate to have
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  Speaker 2: John as an employee. He's walking around saying that. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get to Oscar real quick, who called in. He wanted
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  Speaker 2: to make a comment about the last caller. Oscar, what
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  Speaker 2: did you want to say?
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  Speaker 5: OK, good morning. I'm a registered libertarian.
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  Speaker 1: All right. All right.
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  Speaker 5: But I I pretty much abandoned that party about 10
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  Speaker 5: years ago because of people like John. And the reason is, well,
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  Speaker 5: let me let me tell you what I learned about this.
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  Speaker 5: I actually ran and you can look at it. It's
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  Speaker 5: still on the records. I ran as a paper candidate
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that we're on the ballot. I think
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  Speaker 5: it was 2014 and 2012 here in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to have to give me your last name, Oscar,
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  Speaker 2: for me to do that.
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  Speaker 20: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Palm.
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  Speaker 5: I do or don't.
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  Speaker 2: No, you do if you don't mind.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's P-A-L-M-A.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Continue.
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  Speaker 5: And so what the deal is, they're ideologues. In other words,
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  Speaker 5: they're just like Marxists, just on the other end of
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  Speaker 5: the spectrum. Again, he's going to say that he's neither
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  Speaker 5: left or right. I understand that, and that's very important, actually.
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  Speaker 5: But what happens is he's not looking at the classical
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  Speaker 5: liberals that founded the United States. They believed in ideas
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  Speaker 5: that we all embrace, but what they weren't was naïve.
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  Speaker 5: Naivete is believing that everybody around you is a good person.
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  Speaker 2: So great.
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  Speaker 5: Which is not true.
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  Speaker 2: It's not true.
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  Speaker 5: So if you think back of what Jefferson had to do,
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  Speaker 5: and I'll say it real quick, because I know nobody
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  Speaker 5: wants to listen to it. Jefferson had to act as
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  Speaker 5: commander in chief against the Muslims that were imprisoning and
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  Speaker 5: enslaving American sailors to the point that he had to
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  Speaker 5: go to war.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 13: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And so he did it without Congress congressional approval. The
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  Speaker 5: ships were already on the way when Congress approved it.
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  Speaker 5: So he's not understanding things like tariffs. The whole world
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  Speaker 5: lived on tariffs until 1913 in the United States.
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  Speaker 6: They did.
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  Speaker 5: So this is not, you know, so they're ideologues is
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You can't argue with them. You can't
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  Speaker 5: argue with a communist.
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  Speaker 2: I did notice it was trying to argue with a
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  Speaker 2: communist because, yes, you can't argue with them. And they're
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  Speaker 2: very simplistic in their belief system. And overly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think trying to make it the kind of thing
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  Speaker 2: that's simple. All government, all states, everything goes away. We
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  Speaker 2: all live in harmony. And then, as you and I said,
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  Speaker 2: we know the chaos that would be caused by that
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  Speaker 2: because people, given that ability, would do horrible things. I
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  Speaker 2: really thank you for the call.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right. We've got to take a break. The second
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  Speaker 2: hour of the show is coming up. John is fine
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  Speaker 2: to me. He can keep calling in, keep being a
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  Speaker 2: part of the show. I'm not trying to. to ban anybody,
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  Speaker 2: and if you disagree with me, you can jump in.
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  Speaker 2: But if you want to attack and say things like,
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  Speaker 2: define this term, or tell me why you believe that,
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  Speaker 2: and if I flip it and you can't do any
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  Speaker 2: better than me in what you're accusing me of, then
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  Speaker 2: I think both of us are making our own decisions
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  Speaker 2: with the information we both have, and neither one of
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  Speaker 2: us has any sort of deeper understanding of what's actually
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  Speaker 2: going on. Because sometimes, this is just me saying this
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  Speaker 2: before the break, you have to do that. Quick break,
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  Speaker 2: a lot more, KSV Mornings, Craig Collins.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.