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Telegram's Pavel Durov charged, Brazil banning X, Return of the Coof? | HBR News 470 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: A social media influencer, was arrested for allegedly throwing the
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  Speaker 1: tampon advouncers who were removing her from a club. Well,
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  Speaker 1: at least we know why she was acting that way.
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  Speaker 2: so uhh, we have a great show line for you
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  Speaker 2: guys this week, so please be sure to continue the
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  Speaker 2: On this week's HBr News, we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 2: about the latest from telegrams. Pavel Durov, a judge in Brazil,
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  Speaker 2: Bill seeks to ban X and I think they may
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  Speaker 2: have actually succeeded in it. Experts worn of the return
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  Speaker 2: of can I say it? The return of the cough,
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  Speaker 2: the koof the thing from a few years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you guys can hear it. So for the Patron Show,
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  Speaker 2: we got this story which is just weird, but appropriately
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  Speaker 2: this Ellie Sedgwick. This is reported by the Daily Mail,
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  Speaker 2: which is usually good.
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  Speaker 3: For No, it is not whatever, No, it is okay.
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  Speaker 2: Ellie Sedgwick was going to have surgery to fix her
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  Speaker 2: volva until she asked five hundred women to show her theirs.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's on a mission to get her book Slip
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  Speaker 3: I don't even understand what that means.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, what flip through my flaps? Where she photographed five
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  Speaker 2: hundred women's volvas and apparently she's going to be getting
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  Speaker 2: them into Australian schools. Also your kids, folks. I still
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  Speaker 2: she's like the flaps like her Laby is like, that's
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  Speaker 2: what she means by flaps, flip through my flaps.
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  Speaker 4: But I okay, I'll save it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it in the Patriot Show. So this
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  Speaker 2: is yeah, this is standard fair for Uh, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna throw it out there, probably feminist thinking, but maybe
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  Speaker 2: even just women thinking. I don't know. I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: away from volvas and get into well.
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  Speaker 3: This is Sparta.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have we yes were so? Speaking of parts
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  Speaker 2: body parts, this has been the talk of the Internet
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  Speaker 2: for a while because of how funny it is. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to be able to show the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: But because of the bulges, I'm not sure I can
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  Speaker 2: show the bulges. Yeah, I mean I can give you
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  Speaker 2: a glimpse. But so, what happened here is we have
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  Speaker 2: these women and they have put out a video essentially
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  Speaker 2: promoting their only fans. They're only fans, girls that are
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: essentially pretending to be trans women so that they can
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  Speaker 2: drive more traffic. Hence they're doing this dance with these bulges,
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: and they got the trans women really upset. And uh so, yeah,
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: here's as Colin Rugg says, New trans people are currently
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  Speaker 2: fuming over two female OnlyFans creators pretending to be trans
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  Speaker 2: to sell their only Fans subscriptions. End's community is lashing out,
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  Speaker 2: saying the women are pretending to be gender that they
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  Speaker 2: are not.
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  Speaker 3: How do you how do you even?
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  Speaker 4: I mean everyone, everyone's already expressed some some itsiration of
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  Speaker 4: the phrase how do you even?
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  Speaker 2: Some are even wishing death upon these women for changing
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  Speaker 2: their gender. People like this need to hang in the gallows. People,
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  Speaker 2: you should kill yourself, you stupid broke bitch. Get out
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  Speaker 2: of our spaces. I've always wanted a curb stomp to
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  Speaker 2: people at once with both feet. Oh the irony. But son,
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  Speaker 2: I just say that, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Does this count as changing your gender because that's what
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  Speaker 4: that's what it seems to have been implied by the
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  Speaker 4: comment just now that if you if you're a woman
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  Speaker 4: and you say you're a man pretending to be a woman,
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  Speaker 4: that means you've changed your gender because gender is not
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  Speaker 4: the same as sex. Right, Are we at the point
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  Speaker 4: where we can agree on that, because that's a point
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  Speaker 4: of contention that gender is not the same sex.
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  Speaker 3: And so these women that are putting.
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  Speaker 4: Limpbadildos in their panties and pretending to be women, that
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  Speaker 4: means they're.
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  Speaker 2: Pretending to be trans women.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're pretending to be men.
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  Speaker 4: They're pretending to be not trans men, and therefore they
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  Speaker 4: are trans women.
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  Speaker 2: Pretend trans trans women.
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  Speaker 4: But we can't say pretend right because they're not pretending.
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  Speaker 4: It's a jailable offense just saying to someone is pretending
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  Speaker 4: to be the gender that they're not.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but I guess they're pretending.
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  Speaker 4: To be the gender that they are.
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  Speaker 2: They're pretending to be a person who is pretending to
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  Speaker 2: be a gender that they're not.
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  Speaker 3: What is the woman, dude?
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  Speaker 2: I'm the dude dressed up dude.
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  Speaker 4: Like, how do they even answer the question what is
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  Speaker 4: a woman when it appears to have disappeared up itself?
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  Speaker 3: And yes, I do you mean it appears to.
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  Speaker 2: Have disappears I'm the dude playing the dude dressed up
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  Speaker 2: like another dude. Uh well, I got two things to
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  Speaker 2: say about this one. Biological women are over. Officially, if
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  Speaker 2: the only fans models have to pretend to be trans
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  Speaker 2: trans women to get more traffic to their site, it's
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  Speaker 2: ogre for women, Like, it's all over for regular women.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: So the rip biological women, because now this is the
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  Speaker 2: new this is the new fleek, this is the new
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  Speaker 2: thing that we have to do to keep up with
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  Speaker 2: the with the changing. Sorry, ladies, but you're over. You're
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  Speaker 2: you're done. Women are cooked. It's over. It's over.
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  Speaker 4: What what if people develop a fetish for women who
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  Speaker 4: pretend to be men who pretend to be women?
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  Speaker 3: I mean they don't.
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  Speaker 4: That's a perfectly legitimate subsection.
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  Speaker 3: Of pawn, right, I mean is there?
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  Speaker 2: It is?
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  Speaker 4: There are some people who just like women, and those
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  Speaker 4: people are mental, right, Those those people are the scourge
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  Speaker 4: of the gaming industry. Men who like women get rid
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  Speaker 4: of all of them.
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  Speaker 2: The ones with wombs.
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  Speaker 3: But then there are men who like men who pretend
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  Speaker 3: to be women, And.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine, that's that's that's the natural order of things.
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  Speaker 3: But no, but men who like.
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  Speaker 4: Women who tend to beat men who pretend I've already
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  Speaker 4: lost track of I'm even talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Its true inception. I don't think about it too much
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  Speaker 2: and just have a good time. The other thing I
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: wanted to say about this is, once again, this is
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: just another another instance where men are enjoying something and
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  Speaker 2: women just have to get in there and make it
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  Speaker 2: all about themselves. So what, guys, truons in the chat gate,
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  Speaker 2: keep your gate, keep your gender, I guess because women
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  Speaker 2: are always looking to get in there so that they
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  Speaker 2: can steal some of that some of that ship from you.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to change it. Transgenderism is never going to
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  Speaker 2: be the same now that women got their their hooks in.
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  Speaker 2: So I just think this is really funny and it
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  Speaker 2: is something that's creating quite a conversation, especially when the
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  Speaker 2: transactivists are like, you can't do that, because you're not
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  Speaker 2: really the thing that you say you are.
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  Speaker 4: Like, the question you need you need to present people
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  Speaker 4: is when has it gone too far? Like, what are
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  Speaker 4: your political approaches. What are your socio political approaches? The
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  Speaker 4: question that should be asked, it's okay, I respect your extremism, but.
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  Speaker 3: At what point has your extremism gone too far? And
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  Speaker 3: this is this is.
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  Speaker 4: Just a stop gap in in in the progression of
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  Speaker 4: when the fuck has it come too far?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, Tranny's you got a gate. Keep harder, don't
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  Speaker 2: let them, don't let them take this from you. It's
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  Speaker 2: like the only place it started with the gamers, I
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  Speaker 2: told you, And now women are just wearing dicks like
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  Speaker 2: our costume. My gender is not your costume.
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  Speaker 4: They did this in the in the eighteenth century or
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  Speaker 4: the night whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Casanova was around.
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  Speaker 4: There was I'm reminded of this BBC series that they
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: did about Casanova. It was played by David Tennant. It's
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: what he did before he was doctor who. I think
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  Speaker 4: that that was what got him on the radar of
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  Speaker 4: the people who were looking for potential doctor Who's He
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  Speaker 4: did a BBC series called Casanova, and one of one
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  Speaker 4: of the one of the many women who fell in
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  Speaker 4: love with him was this woman who who wore a
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  Speaker 4: prosthetic penis, because apparently these were things.
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  Speaker 3: In the in the in the eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 2: Don't we just call those dildos?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And and one would say is because there were there
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  Speaker 4: were there were some high class women who were determined
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  Speaker 4: to get all of the privileges that high class men had,
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  Speaker 4: and so and so they would they would present as men,
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  Speaker 4: including wearing a prosthetic penis.
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  Speaker 3: And this is not.
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  Speaker 4: Just something that is only afforded to those who have
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  Speaker 4: plastic and rubber these that there were always things available
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  Speaker 4: and and you could back in the in the arsic
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  Speaker 4: of wild days, you could you present an argument along
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  Speaker 4: the that that women could achieve higher status if they
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  Speaker 4: could pretend to be men, because in those days, men
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  Speaker 4: had more responsibilities and more rights. Yes, because we can
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  Speaker 4: say that nowadays they men have more responsibilities and fewer rights.
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  Speaker 4: But in those days there were that it was delineated
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  Speaker 4: that if it's if you were, if you were a man,
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  Speaker 4: you could you could influence those those in the upper
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  Speaker 4: rationalnge of society.
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  Speaker 3: Just just just by convincing.
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  Speaker 4: People by passing, if you will, as a man. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: now we've reached the inversion of that mm hmm, that
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  Speaker 4: that it's it's obvious to everyone that if you can
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  Speaker 4: pass as a woman, then you can get all the
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  Speaker 4: advantages of a society that clearly prefers women. But and
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: and it's bizarre that it's only just now that the
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  Speaker 4: people have been displaying these these these fake ruber penises,
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  Speaker 4: saying yeah, if you if you display this rubber penis, then.
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  Speaker 3: You can get ahead in life.
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  Speaker 4: But that's yeah, that's that's only the tip of the iceberg.
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  Speaker 4: The rest of the iceberg, of the iceberg that's below
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  Speaker 4: the surface, is that if you cut your dick off altogether,
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: and and you happen to be slighted that self like
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  Speaker 4: enough to pass as a woman, then you can get
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  Speaker 4: all the benefits of being a woman. You can bend
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  Speaker 4: the ear of the powers that be, and you can
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  Speaker 4: bend the air of the average working classman on the street,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: because at this point men don't have any of the
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  Speaker 4: right or any or and do women have all of
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  Speaker 4: the rights and none of the responsibilities.
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  Speaker 3: So, I know, I know a lot of.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: You know, a lot of idiot mid with leftists will
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  Speaker 4: be saying, well, two hundred years ago, you were at
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  Speaker 4: it at an advantage for being a man and and
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: so yeah, but now in the present day, the only
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: advantages you get are from being a woman.
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  Speaker 3: Uh and except.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: The only facts or on TikTok where you get an except,
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  Speaker 4: you get an extra advantage if you're a man who
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  Speaker 4: successfully pretends to be a woman, because it's no longer
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  Speaker 4: good enough to be a woman now you have to
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  Speaker 4: be someone who who who x all sizes any hint
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  Speaker 4: of masculinity.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's that's that's why a man who is
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  Speaker 4: no longer a man has higher status in the progressive
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  Speaker 4: stack than a woman who was never a man. But
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: because because you've you've sloughed that that male skin, you've
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  Speaker 4: you've you've done away with the original sin of being
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: male or dare I say masculine? And it's yeah, I've
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I've lost track of what I'm saying. This frequently happens
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: when I'm trying, because it's so fucking complicated.
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  Speaker 2: It's so Yeah, it's over for it's over for women,
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  Speaker 2: it's over. It's over for a gender binary.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it does. For the idea that there was ever.
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  Speaker 4: A distinction between men and women, No, there isn't anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You're just you're just this inconceivable pile of human matter.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: And what you are is what we say you are
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  Speaker 4: and when I say we, I mean the fucking government.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, well, let us know what you
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: guys think about that one was just a short one.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I thought it was funny. Leave let me know in
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the comments. I don't think that it's worth getting worked
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: up over and matter what, so I'm not worked up.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Nova Fan twenty one though, gave us a kind donation
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: or should I can? I say that I don't know
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: for a dollar and said these women are either double
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: agent trans or they are ascended trands. Next will be
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: an ascended level of ascended trans otherwise known as supertrans too. Yes,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for uh, you know, ultra instinct trans.
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  Speaker 3: That's kinda go.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: We're gonna see that, all right. Well, anyway, let me
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  Speaker 2: know what you guys. Thanks, thanks for the rumble rant
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  Speaker 2: Nova Fan. We're gonna move on to the act victual
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: first story, which is a follow up on Pavel Pavl Durov.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I'm butchering that, but all right. So Pavel Durov,
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  Speaker 2: the founder of Telegram. You guys know, we covered this
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  Speaker 2: last week. He was arrested in France on August twenty four,
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, at Les Labourge Airport. He is now facing
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: up the twenty years in prison if he is convicted
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: on the charges against him. What could the charges against
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: him be? Complicity in managing an online platform to allow
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: illicit transactions by an organized group. It's all very legalistic
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  Speaker 2: and vague.
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  Speaker 3: Something every social media group does.
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  Speaker 4: Every social media has it, as long as the organized
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  Speaker 4: group in question is the government mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Refusal to communicate information or documents necessary for legal inceptions,
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  Speaker 2: and complicity in offering tools designed to damage automated data
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  Speaker 2: processing systems. The arrest and subsequent charges stem from a
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  Speaker 2: preliminary investigation opened in July of twenty twenty four by
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  Speaker 2: French authorities focusing on Telegram's alleged role in facilitating criminal activities,
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  Speaker 2: including child exploitation material. This is what they're claiming, drug
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: sales and more. Due to what was described as a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: near total absence of response to judicial requests for user data. Durrov.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So they wanted the data on people who use Telegram,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and he would not give it to them. That's good
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: because a lot I'm on Telegram. There's like an MRM
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: page that I'm in and they're like, my church is
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: on Telegram. So Durov, who holds multiple citizenships, including Russia,
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  Speaker 2: France and the UAE and saying kitts and nevis hope,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not pronouncing that wrong. Was ordered to pay million
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: year five million euros in bail and is restricted from
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: leaving France. He must report to a police station twice
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a week as part of his supervised release conditions. The
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: case has sparked discussions on freedom of speech, privacy, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the responsibilities of platform owners in moderating content, with some
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: viewing Durov's arrests as an attack on digital liberties. However,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: French authorities and legal proceedings emphasize the investigations focus on
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: supposed criminal activities facilitated by the platform, rather than censorship issues.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I'm reminded of a meme that I saw many years ago,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: up to ten years ago. Two panels. First panel, Hi,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I'm Julian Esanche. I give private information on corporations and
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  Speaker 4: governments to you for free, and the media calls me
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: a criminal. Next panel, Hi, I'm Mark Zuckerberg. I give
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: your private information to corporations and governments for money, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: the media called me man of the Year.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember it to this day.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: It might be the best meme I've ever seen. It's
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the kind of meme you can show to boomer normy
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  Speaker 4: NPCs to sort of begin to try and crack open
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: that shell and maybe nudge them in the direction of
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: a point of perspective, like maybe the media is full
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: of shit. The media that you sit transfixed in front
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  Speaker 4: of every day for forty years. I mean, even churches
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: only expects you to listen on Sundays. Even mosques like
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: they give you a break once in a while. But
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: the government goggle box in every living room in the country,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: the various countries, and with it has is had people
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: receptively listening to their government sanctioned sermons literally every day
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  Speaker 4: for an entire human lifetime. At this point, is extraordinarily
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: difficult to even begin to convince people that that thing
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  Speaker 4: is full of shit?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Like how come the media just overlooks all the ship
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: that Mark Zuckerborg has done? Little did I know how
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  Speaker 3: much spicier.
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  Speaker 4: This situation would get ten years down the line.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna be slow.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: And careful in how I word this. But let's let's
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: say it could be interpreted that Mark Zuckerborg recently confessed
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to a crime, and we are not talking about a misdemeanor, folks.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: We're talking when you, as a giant corporation, voluntarily collude
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: with a government, a giant government Nole's and its associated
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: agencies in order to interfere with an upcoming election. Some
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: might call that fascism, and some might call it treason.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: And yes, you're both correct to the extent that either
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: of these terms can be applied to a constitutional republic. Yes, indeed, Marcus,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: look at Bog's actions are not just treason but fascist treason.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: As I said, that's simply how one might interpret the situation.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not even a biologist who identifies as legal advice.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: But whatever it is Mark's Borg did, he has confessed
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: to it. I'm not even sure what it is. Pavel
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Giraffe is supposed to have been charged, let alone to.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Have maybe confessed to. It's just weird.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Help help all these people who claim to despise fascism
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: and devote their every waking moment to dismantling fascism.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: They don't.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: They don't seem to mind when it constantly happens. They
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: they'd rather arrest the founder of any private company that
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: does not collude with the.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Government where.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: We are many many layers deep into an invasion of
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: our language. Words don't mean anything any more. Words mean
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: their own opposites, as and when it is convenient for
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: the for the sophist in quest to tactically code switch
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: between between various contradictory states of matter Alexa, why should
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I vote for Kamela?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Why do you ask?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I don't no reason, but yeah, but yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I know I've been beating a similar drum for a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: while now, while with constantly blaming everything on the TV,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: but honestly, it all starts with language and the and
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the devices used to control language. We can't even begin
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: to unravel this downward spiral spiral of geopolitical bedlam we
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: found ourselves in until we.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Can at least figure out how to talk to each other,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: until we can at least agree on what words mean.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: It's it's a.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Tower of babel sits.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: The closer you get to a one world government, the
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: more you notice your.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Communications breaking down.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: So we only need to get into the habit of
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: asking what do.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: You mean by that?
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I know it sounds artistic, I know it can be
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: overused in an evasive way, But the much bigger problem
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: is when we rush into a heated argument using words
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that mean completely different things to one another. Mark Zuckerborg
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: is a confessed fascist traitor, allegedly, of course, I have
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: to say that, whereas confessed but allegedly Pavel Durroff has
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: done nothing but stand in the way of fascist treachery
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: simply by being there and letting people talk. So if
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: anyone is out here calling Pavel Durroff a fascist traitor,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: all for that matter, calling Elon Musk a fascist traitor
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: while completely ignoring Mark Zuckerborg, I can't. I can't even
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I can't. I cannot possibly have an argument with such
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: a mindset until I have unraveled what an earth is
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: going on in such a vocabulary. And if you can't
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: unravel it, if if you if you just can't get
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: through that network of spiderwebs installed by the government goggle box,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: that's that's installed on on on the wall of most homes,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: then there really is nothing you can do.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: It is an.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Option to just change the subject, move and move on
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: and try to get along as best you can, especially
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: if it's a family member. You argue with online randos
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: all you like, because fuck him, But don't push too
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: hard on the people who actually matter in your personal,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: non political life. Family is more important than politics, no
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: matter how extreme the politics may be.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Honestly, this is if it's not worth it, then it's
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: not worth it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Sorry for the tautology, but at least it's an
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: original tautology. I hear byind it. If it's not worth it,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: then it's not worth it. And it is what it is,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and I am what I am. And a man is
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: a man. Whoops that one was hate speech? Oh well,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I'll see you in jail.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Okay. So telegram has been around since twenty thirteen. Yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and they arrested him like this week. This means that
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: telegram was beneath the notice of these governments until it wasn't.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna name some countries, some whose governments I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: believe are not our friends and that there is collusion
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: going on at this highest level. And I might be wrong,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: but I don't think I am so because of things
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that I have seen. For example, the European Union definitely
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: not our friends, and I believe we're involved with this,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: But also in other areas they have expressed concerns. That's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: usually how it starts with Elon Musk's platform X. Not
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: just the Brazilian judge who I'm getting to in the
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: next story, but a lot of these global homo gay
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: rays communist governments are. They hate X existing. And one
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: of the things that I thought was really interesting about
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: this guy is that you know, he was on Tucker
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Carlson Show recently, and I never knew Pavel before that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't know who he was. I didn't know who
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: came up with telegram. I don't know the story behind it,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: but I know that he went on Tucker like it
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: was like not long ago at all, maybe maybe a
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: week ago, maybe two at the most, and they picked
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: him up and they and merethg sent a super chow.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I might as well read it because I was going
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to bring this up. Since she sent the money, I'll
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: give her credit for this. She said for five bucks
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: HBr News four seventy. Keep in mind that France didn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: issue a warrant for Durrov. They couldn't get the warrant
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to arrest him. They had to trick him into traveling
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: out of his way to France to entrap him. So
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: and what we're seeing, Mike, you mentioned Julian Assange. What
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: we're seeing is something just like that. It's not even
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that Durov has done anything bad, it's that he's allowing
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: people to speak and share information. So the US government,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the European Union, probably the UK government, the Canadian government,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the Israel government, they're all like Ukraine big. They're well,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Ukraine is not really a country, but they're doing so
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: in like in subsece, essentially on the acting on the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: orders of our government, the US government, And they're not
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: going after misinformation. They're not going after disinformation. They're going
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: after mal information, which is essentially information that is in
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: fact true, but you shouldn't say it anyway because it's dangerous.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: The other and the reason why I mentioned Tucker is
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that because he has essentially been involved. I've been watching
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: a show it's it's overtaken Joe Rogan from what let
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: what I heard. At one point there were more people
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: watching Tucker than Joe Rogan, especially men. And he's had
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: on guests that have been very controversial, and he's talked
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: about things that are pretty controversial. Need I remind you
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: another journalist, Gonzalo Lira, known as Coach Redpill, went into
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Ukraine or he was there already or whatever, and was
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: arrested when he was trying to flee to Russia and
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: died in a prison under in a Ukrainian prison for nothing.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: And his father was on Tucker Carlson talking about that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: very thing, And so what I think is going on here?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And there was a guest that Tucker had on just yesterday.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: He was like a historian, and he does like very
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: long podcasts where he goes into very deep dives on
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: things like World War two, World War One, you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the sixties, he jonestown. He did really interesting stuff because
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: his goal was to get to the absolutely truth of everything,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and a lot of these stuff gets presented to us
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: in a very like simplistic black and white terms, you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and he gave us like a lot more nuanced in
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: that department. I thought it was really good. And now
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: he is being threatened online, you know, being called all
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: these things, a new Sea, et cetera. So I think that, uh,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I think that they're they're going
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to bend or break the law as much as possible
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to keep people like Paveldura from allowing people to speak.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: It's not even that he's speaking he's not even a whistleblower.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: He's nothing like that. He's a guy who runs a platform,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and they're like this, this platform has got to go.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So they're they're basically holding him there and they're gonna
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: go through Telegram whatever, and I guess they're going to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: try to and find any justification to either give themselves
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: authoritative oversight over Telegram or to get rid of it altogether,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: like what they're calling for in terms of X or so, uh, yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: it's it's uh, it's dark, but we know that they're
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: doing it, and they know that we know that they're
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that they know that they're doing it. So I guess
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: there's that. So I see Hannah has shown up.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I finally hear.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we're just we're just finishing up the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: first story. So let me just give you, give you
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a mouth to speak, put that in there.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that we just did the first story,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: which is Pavel d'urrov's arrest. He was the we talked
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: about him last week. He was the guy who created
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Telegram and I was pointing out that he founded Telegram
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen and they didn't come after hiuntil this year,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and yes it is an election year, and yes, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: think that's got a lot to do with it, But
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I think there's just a number of other things. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: think that there's like the government is the government of
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the world are accustomed to a certa level of power
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and control over information, and people like Paveldurov is essentially
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a threat to that power, and so they're going to
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: do whatever they can to stop him, even if it's,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you know, not quite legal. So there you go. All right, Hannah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: did you want to say anything? Do you know the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: story very well?
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Or the only thing I would say, just based on
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: looking at the write up, is this The reason that
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: the United States removed liability when it comes to like libels, slander,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: defamation on public media social media is because it is
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: a public platform. It's like the town square, and it's
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: damn near impossible for them to police that. They can't.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: They would have to literally just watch everybody's account and
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: fact check everything everybody said in order to do that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Is similar enough in regard to transactions and stuff like
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: that that unless something is reported to them, they don't
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: really have a great way of policing that either. And
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: in terms of items that should not be getting sent
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: over electronic media, so illegal transactions, items that are illegal,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: illegal media, things like that, the person who sent it
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: has to be the one responsible.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And if the.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Person who received it received it because they solicited it,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: and it can be proved that they paid for it
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: and it's an illegal thing, then they should be responsible.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: But if somebody's scamming somebody, the scammer has to be
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: responsible to platform. There's not a whole lot the platform
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: can logistically do to protect people from that, anymore than
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: the phone companies can be responsible for what phone calls
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: you get, and anymore than you know, the US Postal
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Service can be responsible for what people send you in
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: the mail. Right, There's there's a lot that they cannot
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: confirm or prove. And uh, people have to understand that
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: that's that's bullshit if a government is charging a company
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: for that. Now, if it's proved that there was like
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: a cheese pizza ring and everybody was aware, including the
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: people running the platform, that this was happening, and they
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: did nothing about it, that's a different story, Jack Dorsey.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: But and yeah, uh, not that, not that I was
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: one of the people that reported that and got suspended
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: for reporting that to them that that hey, this is
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: going on and you should do something about it. Oh okay,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: well we'll we'll we'll ban the person who reported it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not the only one either that was was penalized
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: for reporting. There's a guy that was not just suspended
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: for a while, he was flat out permanent band for reporting.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: But I just want to make a point of clarification.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Meredith g said that Durrov's arrest isn't what is being
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: said in public. It's about the private messages that he
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: will not give governments open access to.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Well, they should have discipoena. That that's just like any
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: other like that. I know. I don't know how totalitarian
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: France is with their court system, but any process that
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: that any other citizen is is uh has a right
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: to the users that platform should also have a right
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: And if they're not users from France, then that adds
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: a further layer of complication.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: All right, Uh, well, thank you for that, Meredith and Hannah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: We're gonna move on to the next story. This is
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a bit of a bigger one, but it's related because
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I think there's a reason why all this stuff is
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: happening at the same time. I mean, I think, I
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: think so don't. I don't believe in coincidences. So let
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: us know what you guys think about this in the comments.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and talk about Elon Musk versus
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: this Brazilian judge who looks like he should be, you know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: trying to destroy Toontown. The social media scene has been
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: on fire lately after the French government arrested the creator
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and owner of messaging app Telegram. But the hits don't
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: stop coming, and they don't stop coming, and they don't
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: stop coming, and they don't stop coming, and they don't
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: stop coming. Last Friday, a Brazilian Supreme Court justice by
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: the name of Justice alex Alexandre de Morales ordered the
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: suspension of Musk's Twitter app in Brazil. The suspension comes
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: on the heels of Justice Marahs demand that Musk name
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a representative for the company in the country, which Musk
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: did not do in this decision or in his decision,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Justice Mariahs described this the reasoning quote, Elon Musk showed
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: his total disrespect for Brazilian sovereignty and in particular for
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the judiciary, setting himself up as a true supernational entity
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and immune to the laws of each country. End quote.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Justice Marias set a five day deadline for both Google
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and Apple to remove the app from their Brazilian app stores,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: and issued a warning that anyone caught browsing the website
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: through a VPN could be forced to pay a daily
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: fine roughly equivalent to eight nine hundred dollars USD. Musk
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: tells the story differently than Justice Mariahs, saying quote, when
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: we attend to defend ourselves in court, just Judge des
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Mariahs threatened our Brazilian legal representative with imprisonment. Even after
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: she resigned, he froze all of her bank accounts. Our
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: challenges against his manifestly illegal actions were either dismissed or ignored.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Judge de Mariah's colleagues on the Supreme Court are either
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: unwilling or unable to stand up to him.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: End quote.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Musk and this particular justice, but it heads in the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: past over his refusal to block certain user's accounts. Following
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Musk's vow that he would continue to fight this action,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Justice Mariahs took things another step forward and froze the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: finances of Musk's other venture starlink in Brazil. Musk addressed
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that situation by stating, quote, this order is based on
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: an unfounded determination that starlink should be responsible for the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: fines levied unconstitutionally against x. It was issued in secret
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and without affording Starlink any of the due process of
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: law guaranteed by the Constitution of Brazil. MHM. We intend
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to address the matter legally end quote Justice Mariah's counter
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: that Twitter did not have enough money in its Brazilian
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: accounts to pay for the fines, and reasoned since the
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: two companies use the same parent company, taking the funds
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: from one to pay for the other was within reason.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Until the matter is settled, Musk has made starlink free
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to Brazil based customers to Brazil based customers, which is based.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It should be noted that for the time being, the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Brazilian government still runs their own Twitter account, seemingly without
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: firing themselves or finding themselves or finding themselves. That's right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: People looking at this as though as an unprecedented escalation
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: of the wave of censorship, like it's a mechanism that
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: hasn't been employed until now. But this is simply a
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: development of what has always been employed. It's not just
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: the tip of the spear is several feet along the
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: shaft of the spear as it's slowly pushed through you
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: and your nation. The spirit itself is what international governments
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: have been doing to social media companies for a couple
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: of decades now. But what normally happens is they comply.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: The social media companies get a knock on the door,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: they hear FBI, open up, and.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: The rest is history.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: For Brazil, read whatever the Brazilian equivalent of the deep
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: state is. Every state has such an equivalent. The larger
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the population, the more ruthless.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: It's deep state is.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: And Brazil it's the superpower of the cemosphere. It's the
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: same with China, Russia, USA, any any superpower, with the
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: possible exception of India that does appear to be nothing
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: but a maelstream of wandering paget shitting in the street.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: But I digress, I.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Hear by ddess, hear by bloody, your bloody.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: But.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I hear by d digress.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Unburdened by what has been The point is everyone in
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: the world needs to be pressing their own governments for
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: their reaction to what's going on. In Brazil, just just
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: like a month or so ago, when Kirs Starmer's STAZI
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: claimed they would extrade Americans for saying naughty things like
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I know you're all laughing, like you can't do that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: This is what we've fought this fucking war for.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you should have asked your presidential candidates for
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: their reaction to that threat. I know it sounds absurd
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: that an American president or presidential candidate would ever submit
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: to the capricious so called justice of another country, let
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: alone the UK, But you have no idea how absurd
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: things could get if if if Kamala Harris is allowed,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: is allowed to run rampant for another four years, unburdened
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: by what has been.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Similar, Yeah, she might actually do that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she actually might similar thing going on. Hey, you
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: really ought to be asking your presidential candidates how they
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: feel about what's being done to Twitter, an American company,
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: and what's being done to it by the Brazilian government,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: or rather it is the undertaker and Paul Bearer illegally
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: acting as dictators of what is ostensibly a democracy. Needless
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: to say, Kamala hasn't said anything on the subject, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: people and people have been led to believe that's because
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: she wants this for America, And yeah, yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: That's a reasonable conclusion.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: But I mean, Kamala has badly said a goddamn thing
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: about anything, so that's not surprising. But I'd like to
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: know what Trump thinks about all this. I'd like to
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: know what RFK thinks.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Has anyone else chimed in on this on.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: This subject, because this would be a bloody good time
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: to do so, right? Have I missed aid that chat has?
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Has Trump chimed in on this?
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I'd like to think I already know what he would say,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: but I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, nevertheless,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: But far be from me to expect an answer.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I am a foreigner to this land.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I expect an answer from Kirs Starmer, and I know
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: It's fuck you. But yeah, yeah, you all does have
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: an answer.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I hope you get one in the nearest of futures.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just a cursory look. Doesn't actually raise anything
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: about Trump saying anything. Mother Jones brought his name up,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: but they're really left wing publication, but kind of interesting.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: We should see what he would say about it, because
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm pretty sure he'd have some pretty firebrain things
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: to say about it, because he has previously been very
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: much a you know, sort of protectionist of America, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: if he, if he were asked about something like that,
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: I would expect to hear from him, you know, something
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: along the lines of a much more polite version of
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: fuck Brazil. This is an American company. They need to
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: straighten their shit out. But it would be actually nice
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: to hear him say it. And I'm sure that if
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: this continues, and it as it gains traction as a story,
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: a thing that's happening, we probably will hear from Trump.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: I doubt that we'll hear from Kamala Harris unless she
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: gets pressured into you gotta say something because everybody is
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: looking at you for for some you know, some response
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: to this. And even then she'll try to sound diplomatic
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: and she'll end up just sounding stupid because she is.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: But you're right, this is not new. I go back
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: to the swad for US incident. Oh God, she always
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: sounds drunk. I'm sorry, there is something.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: That's the way she always think She is often drunk.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that might be.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: It might just be that she really is drunk.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And I saw a clip of her talking somewhere and
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: she was really slurring her words. It was like more
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: than normal. It's like, oh, yeah, you are ripped, you
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: you are.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: I want to use the term wine mom and and
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: actually not spell it with an H because usually I
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: do like to have that age in there. But yeah,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I I I kinda scares me in terms of how
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: not dedicated to the United States she is. I think
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: that if another country came along and wanted to run
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: over to the United States, she would let it happen,
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: just like.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Her signatures will be on the on the executive orders
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: and ship. But she's not actually running the country. I mean,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: she's not like Joe isn't running the country right now. Whoever,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: it's not him, it's not her, it's somebody else. There's like,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you know, somebody else, because Joe is not somebody else
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: is We have my I have my theories.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, guy who dresses like doctor Evil, like that's that's
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: who's running our country right now. And we know it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: We're fully aware of it. We're not happy about it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: We want it back, uh and and we're we're mad
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: as hellen We're not gonna take it anymore. But no,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: I I just I would be terrified even if if
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: she was running. Actually, I probably be even more terrified
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: if she was running the country, because it'd be like
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: letting your cat drive your car.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: She's about about as as smart about government as a
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: cat is about driving a car. But in terms of
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: in regard to this situation, this is not the first
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: time that a country has tried to do this with
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: an American company. That the American social media company, in fact, Twitter,
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: comply with the UK's demands that sawad Foressa's name be
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: edited out or people be suspended or made to delete
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: tweets and so on. When they talked about, uh, the
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: false allegations against Mark Pearson and the ordeal he went through.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: I I actually had tweets that I was forced to
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: delete because of that, and they shadow band accounts and
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: hid links to the Voice for Men news articles about
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: that because they mentioned her name, and uh, that was
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: that was I want to say, that was before COVID.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: That was quite a while ago. So this is they've
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: been doing this for a long time. It's just that
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: now they're getting told. Now they're they're actually getting a
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: resounding fuck you from from uh elin musk and and
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: again you know, business terms but the same language. Nonetheless,
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: and they should be because it's not their country's business,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: it's not their company. And if they want to keep
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: people from seeing the rest of the world on the internet,
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: then it's probably because they're doing something very wrong.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Yep, oh for sure, for sure. And of course Brazil.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I think one of the things about Brazil is that
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions being raised about whether or
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: not there most recent election was on the up and up. Yeah,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and you know, because the Bolsonaro one, like a few
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: around the time that Trump was in office, Bolsonaro was
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: in office, and he wanted to essentially he.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Was a right wing guy.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: He wanted like, you know, more free markets, things like this,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: and he lost under supposedlyestionable circumstances, unlike our elections, which
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: are always fair, free and fair elections. But theirs might
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: have been a little sketchy. I mean, it is basically
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: a third world country. So but no, but they they're so.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: His son, Bolsonaro's son, who I think is currently residing
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: in this in Florida, has basically been pretty outspoken in
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: defense of his father. As far as I understand it. So, yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: South America is kind of a mess right now unless
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: you live in uh, you know, Argentina or what's the
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: other country, Salvador where the guy just like went in
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: and you know, took all those those those gangs and
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: put him in in prisons. Although some of the Venezuela
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: sent some of their lovely gentlemen over here. Do you
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: remember when Trump said they're not sending their best. He
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: wasn't lying, It wasn't racist. And like, you guys heard
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: about what happened in Colorado, where now in Connecticut.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I just I just read about this today and I'm
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: in Connecticut.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're in Chicago too. Like, there was an a
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: former gang member, Chicago gang member from the South Side
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: who I guess does a podcast now and he's like
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: left that all behind. He was like interviewing with somebody
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: and he said that, like, the Venezuelan gangs are terrifying
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the Chicagoans. I'm gonna repeat that because I want you
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: guys to really think about this.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well of Chicago is a mega country.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: This is Chicagoans are being terrorized by gangs from Venezuela,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: whereas Chicago already has a gang problem. Okay, but these
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: guys they like they're on a old They're on a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: whole other level. Like they you know, with machetes and
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: all this ship. And the guy from Salvador said, he said,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: he said, they are literally Satanic. They believe in you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: blood sacrifice and all kinds of crazy shit. Okay, So
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Chicago is in really bad shape, and I'm getting I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: betting that, like you know, other places like Colorado and
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: you mentioned Connecticut and New York. I mean, they're having
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: really really big problems with organized from South America.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: They're going to be in every big city in the
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: United States. This is not something that sanctuary And here's why. Well,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: it's not just the sanctuary cities. The federal government. When
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: they bring people in from across the border, they are
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: putting them on buses, they are putting them on planes,
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: and they are shipping them across the state lines to
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: every state in the Union. They are sending them everywhere.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: They are separating families, right, They're separating people from the
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: people they arrived with the different places. They are housing
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: kids with people they don't know in neighborhoods full of
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: people they don't know. Uh, and and yeah, it's a mess.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: And so there's a there's a lot going on there,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: and there is not going to be a place where
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: you can go in the United States where you can
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: be sure that this is not happening, because our federal
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: government is currently ensuring that the the immigrants that are
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: being allowed in illegally are everywhere.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: They're not sorting them out. They're not making sure that
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: of who is criminal and who is not. They're not
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: even making sure that people who claim to be a
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: child's parents really are that child's parents and not a
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: trafficker who stole that child from his or her home
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: country and and carted them away from where their parents are.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: We do not even know how many children in the
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: United States have parents at home looking for them.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's right.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: And this gang that they're they're not just in Uh,
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: They're not just Venezuelan. This is throughout numerous South American countries.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: This has been building up since the early nineteen seventies.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Used to be building up in Guatemala. My grandparents were
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: missionaries in Guatemala when when this sort of was starting
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: up there, and this this has taken place in Mexico's
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: taking place in numerous countries that where they have this
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: this satanic cult that doesn't just engage in human sacrifice,
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: they engage in live human sacrifice. They engage in the
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: what they're doing I can't really describe because YouTube would
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: buddh us. But shoot, I can't think of a number
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: that Japanese experiment on the Chinese that was so brutal.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: Let me look really quick, but it's like seven forty
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: nine or something like that. Yeah, in any case, if
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: I can remember the number, then I could tell you
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: to look it up.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Well if you if you get it, just
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: drop it in the chat and I'll try to open
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: it in another window.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: It was some of the worst inhuman it was. It
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: was the kind of treatment that would have made the
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: Nazi get chills from how scary it was what they
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: were doing. Yikes, these people are worse than Nazis and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: in the way that they treat their victims.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, children are getting the genials mutilated. Nazis would be like, whoa,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: whoa there son, what.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, John, I mean, all right, well, we're gonna
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: move on to the next story. Let us know, you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: guys thinking about this one in the comments.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: And uh, you know Unit seven one.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Unit seven thirty one.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Oh maybe that's not right either.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Is there a link? Did you just send it to me?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: Uh, there's a lot of links. Unit is Yeah, Japan's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: infamous Unit seven thirty one, Japan's human experimentation on prisoners
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: mostly of Chinese, Korean, and Russian descent. There's books about this.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: These guys, what these guys do is similar, except instead
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: of doing it for experimental reasons, they're doing it as
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: a sacrifice or a means of execution.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, with that in mind, we're going
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: to move on to the next story. Let us know
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: you guys think about that in the comments.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: So last story speaking of wits chemical right, we speaking
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: of experiments.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: So, US doctors are now warning of a rise in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: contagious viruses as the school season starts back up across
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: the United States. It took us by a surprise a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: number of cases that we've had, and now we're having
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: schools come back in and various other things, said doctor
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Anthony Peccauz, a virologist and professor at the Johns Hopkins
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Bloomberg School of Public Health. Peccause also says that it's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: hard to tell the difference between RSV, flu and COVID
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: based on symptoms alone. Fatigue and fever are common symptoms
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: for a variety of illnesses. Doctors are also suggesting to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: use ppe such as masks and to proper social distance
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to help stop the spread of disease. However, masks have
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: been controversial in the past, but say the least with
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: regards to COVID nineteen, with some studies showing that masks
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: had little to no impact with stopping the spread of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: COVID nineteen as most masks were insufficient to block particles.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Only n ninety five masks were sufficient to particles spreading
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. According to the experts, the best advice, according
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: to the article here to give people is if you
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: feel sick, no matter how what you have, stay home.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if it's COVID, the flu, or the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: common cold. Staying home and resting is the best anyone
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: can do to stop the spread of disease. And wash
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: your hands, you filthy animals. So it's back now, maybe.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: It it's back. It's going to come back every year.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: It's going to be different every year because it's virus
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: and viruses mutate, and it's not as dangerous as it
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: was before, which wasn't as dangerous as they told us
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: it was to most people. But the best things that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: you can do in regard to preparing yourself for virus
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: season is cut down on your sugar intake, eat a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: lot of healthy things, get good nutrition, get a good
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: night's sleep every night, right the normal things that make
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: you naturally healthy, make your immune system stronger. Watch something
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: that makes you laugh every day. You know laughter helps
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: to make your immune system stronger too. Hug your family
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: that helps to make your immune system stronger, believe it
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: or not. And don't panic, because panic makes you stupid
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: every single time you do it, and then you end
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: up putting yourself in circumstances that are detrimental to your
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: welfare instead of helpful. Don't let anybody tell you that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: you're going to die if you don't follow their superstition
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: in regard to this or that virus. Just eat healthy food,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: don't overdo alcohol, don't overdo sugar, get enough sleep, and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: love and be loved, and let other people get panicky
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: and worried about it. If you get six, stay home
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: from work if you get unusually sick. Make sure your
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: doctor knows. So your doctor and tell you what you
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: got to do to get better. Like, it's it's really
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: not that hard. It's very similar to the way the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: flu should be handled.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Mike, I'm sure that you want to say something about it.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this A doctor has handled this the same way
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: for not as years, but hundreds of years. If you
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: if you have a sniffle, then drink some chicken soup
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: and and.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Some historical equivalent of sprite.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Just boost your electrolyte and and and your fucking protein
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: What we're being given is advice that you would give
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: to anyone who has a cold. It's so ironic that
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: that what I'm now going to call the covidiots. We're
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: all saying, oh, it's just the flu. Bro, what a
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: what a fucked up take to say that this is
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: just like the flu. But it was It wasn't even
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: like the flu.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: It was cold.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: It was only ever a cold.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: So is the flu.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Well, the flu is a bit worse than a cold.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: It depends on it depends on who gets it. Some
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: people don't really have that much effects from it, and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: then it also depends on which flu, because well, yeah,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: there are some versions of the flu that barely affect me,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: but there's one that knocks me on the ass.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: So one has to disambiguitate what people mean by the cold.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: There's no one specific thing that's called the common could.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: That's why it's called the common cold. Sometimes it's a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: benign variant of the flu. Sometimes it's a benign variant
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: of a rhinovirus, and sometimes it's a benign variant of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: the of a coronavirus. In twenty twenty, our various government's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: immedia convinced us that the coronavirus is something that emerged
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere in late twenty nineteen. But it's just
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: one of the many variant viruses that can be called
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: a common cold.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: And that's all it ever was. I don't know if
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: I can say this. I don't know how much I did.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Some biguate this so we don't get banned from YouTube.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: People continue to get common colds all the time because
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: it is literally unavoidable because that's how much they mutate.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: But in twenty twenty and d twenty twenty one, there
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: were these PCR tests that people brought out that were
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: never designed to to ah to decide what is a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: what is any given disease or other pc rtists were
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: only ever.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: The inventor of them.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Sort of came out and said, this is designed to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: differentiate one DNA strand.
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  Speaker 3: From another strand. It's not.
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  Speaker 4: It's not to tell you whether you have a benign
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: form of the flu or benign form of the rhinovirus,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: or a benign form of the coronavirus. It's it's it's
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  Speaker 4: completely misapplied to the idea that you have a novel
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  Speaker 4: coronavirus that was apparently brought about by bats in China.
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  Speaker 3: This was I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: How to say this without getting canceled, but the common
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  Speaker 4: cold was reinterpreted in twenty twenty as a novel disease.
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  Speaker 3: That's what happened. The idea that the common cold.
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  Speaker 4: Is reinterpreted as a novel disease is something that you
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  Speaker 4: couldn't get across to anyone in any previous generations or
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  Speaker 4: properly future generations, because they all understand that the common
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: cold is just a common cold. Sometimes you catch some
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  Speaker 4: kind of benign virus that makes it a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more difficult to breathe for like a day or two.
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  Speaker 4: But our various world governments, influenced as they were by
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  Speaker 4: the WEF and these various other government agencies to terrify you,
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  Speaker 4: to terrify you into every time you get a cold,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, this is going to kill me. I
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  Speaker 4: can't possibly survive the common cold. No one has ever
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  Speaker 4: survived the common cold unless they have a vaccine against
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  Speaker 4: the common cold.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, they can.
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  Speaker 4: They convinced the world that you need not just one vaccine,
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  Speaker 4: but twelve vaccines to save you from the common cold.
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  Speaker 3: And it's I.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, they've tried this.
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  Speaker 3: They tried this many times. They tried it with the
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  Speaker 3: swine flu. I remember, I remember flu. I remember being forced.
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  Speaker 4: To deliver to deliver pamphlets about swine flu in two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and nine or wherever it was. That's what swine
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  Speaker 4: flu was supposed to be. That was one of their syops.
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  Speaker 4: But it didn't take off. They kept they tried this
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  Speaker 4: time and time and again, and it didn't take off
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  Speaker 4: until twenty twenty. And I think the only reason it
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: worked in twenty twenty because that was the point at
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  Speaker 4: which this communism has had spread through the general population
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  Speaker 4: so much that they that they they had finally become
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: susceptible enough to government propaganda that they finally would believe whatever, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: whatever the TV told them. And I assume they tried
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  Speaker 4: this several times before swine flu. I mean the original
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Sars Stars two thousand and two, I think it was
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  Speaker 4: that was that was one of the earliest attempts.
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  Speaker 3: They've been doing this for ages.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Like actual pandemics really are a century apart, or more
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: than centuries apart. The Spanish flu was something of anomaly
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: of an anomaly, and ever since then, governments have been
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: looking at that as a way of as an excuse
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  Speaker 4: to control the populace. And that's I'm not pretty into
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: the choir now, but governments will do anything they.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Can to control.
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  Speaker 4: The populace. And yeah, as the cliche goes, if you
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: give government the power two do away with human rights
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: because of a crisis, then they will manufacture a crisis.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: In order to do away with human rights.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: And this is obvious to you and I listener, but
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: it is much less obvious to the general masses, who
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: who get all their information from from government propaganda that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: they don't realize his government propaganda and yeah, I'm reducing
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: myself to that cliche once again. But if people didn't
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  Speaker 4: listen to government propaganda, if people would just realize there's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: goment government propaganda, they would just be like, I don't
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: give a ship what the government propaganda says.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: I know it's pollocks.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: And this, weirdly enough, is a way in which China
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: is ahead of the curve on us. Whenever Westerners interact
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: with Chinese people, regular Chinese people, just regular working class
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: Chinese people, Chinese people are like, yeah, we don't listen
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: to the news.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Why would we listen to the news.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: We know it's propaganda, it's the news is just it's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: only tells us what the government wants us to hear, Like,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: why would we listen to that. We're only interested in
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: trying to to break through these various shells, these various
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: firewalls on the government and trying and trying to figure
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: out what's actually going on in the world. And uh,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: it's one of the greatest ironies that Westerners, Europeans and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Americans and Americans don't don't don't get that. They they
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: they watch the television, they watch the the what's called
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: news being presented to them, on the television and they
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: think it's true. Like for for for all the shade
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: we could throw on the Chinese people know that the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: Chinese people have figured this out for for for generations.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: They know it's all bollocks, but there's nothing they can
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: do about it, because because they know that the government
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: has taken over the mainstream media.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: It's it's just.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: So sad that so many people in the West watch
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: the news, the state propaganda on the television.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: And they and they think they're being told the truth.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: They because they can't, but because.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: They don't know anything else, because because the state.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Propaganda in the broadcast media, it tells them that the
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: only alternative is the incidnet.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: And you can't believe anything you hear on the.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Incident can.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's an it's an intellectual laziness. I've watched people
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: learn information that contradicts their favorite news source over and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: over again, and rather than recognizing that that implicates their
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: their favorite news source as a potential tool of propaganda,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: they get mad at the messenger every single time. Right,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: it's how dare you disabuse me of my my ill
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: conceived notions based on this propaganda? And how dare you
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: demonstrate to me that this is propaganda I wanted to believe.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: And that's I see that over and over again. It
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: happens over and over again because people would rather let
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: someone tell them what to think than do the work.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: And it's it's sad, it's pathetic, and it's led us
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: down a really dark path. It's one of the reasons
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: why people are tolerating the censorship, the crackdowns, the shutdowns,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: the mistreatment, the theft of their income. That's that's being
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: used to pay women to make stupid choices. All of
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: that is basically a result of people not wanting to
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: have to do the work of thinking for themselves and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: preferring to let someone else tell them what to think.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: But when when it comes to this cold you know,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: the thing that pisses me off about it the most
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: is it never had to exist, right, it did not.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: It's the original claims about it, the popular narratives about
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: it have been debunked, and it's it's not even questionable
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: that they were debunked. It's widely reported. It's the evidence
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: has been provided widely when it's been reported. Right, this
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: this exists because humans fucked with things. They shouldn't have
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: fucked with and now we have this, and it's never
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: going to go away, and it has killed people. It
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: is dangerous to some people, and that's by design. It's
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: not an accident. It's not a freak of nature. It's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: not natural, and that's something that we should all be
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: mad about, something we should all be heckling our public
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: servants about what are you going to do about this?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: Have you investigated this yet? Have you done anything about
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: the people that were involved? What are you doing about
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: the people that were involved? This was a crime against humanity.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: This makes everybody that's attached to it look bad. That
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: includes you, That includes the American people. Since it was
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: one of ours, one of our bureaucrats that did this,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: what are we doing about it? And that should be
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: every politician in Washington should be getting letters and phone
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: calls asking that question and demanding answers, demanding results every day.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Yep, well said, just be aware this is happening and
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: prepare to say no. All right, So let me see
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: if there's any super chats or super child's or anything
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: like that before we wrap this up. No, but I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: did get a super child yesterday that did not get
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: read out loud, so I'm gonna read it. I will
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: read the whole thing because it's really long. But Nova Fan,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: I see you, and I pinned this one so that
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: we can, like, I can share it with Alison. I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: don't know when we're gonna get to it, maybe next
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: week if anything. But he said it's five dollars, and
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: he says, short fat otaku Dev, why aren't people having kids?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: And then he includes a YouTube link and he says
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: there's transcript so you don't have to watch the full
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: time stamps, and he has a bunch of time stamps
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: regarding the video that he wants us to respond to
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Debbie's charge to support the theory that if the economy
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: affecting women's lower childbirths, I don't think that's true, poor
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: people have more kids. But anyway, we'll go through that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: on another show. But I want to read that out.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Nova Fan. And then Art Force gave us
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: ten dollars and says Dev is a moron news at eleven,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, i'ma we'll look at it. Like you know,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say the about short fout of taco,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: except he's Canadian. He doesn't get it, so I'm gonna move,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go into the Patron Show. Now we're gonna
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: look at this lovely article called and I know Hannah's
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: gonna love this. Ellie Sedgwick was going to have surgery
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: to fix her vulva until she asked five hundred women
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: to show her theirs. Now she's on a mission to
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: get her book Flip through My Flaps into Australian schools.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically she's she wants to groom kids and
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: she came up with a story to excuse her behavior
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: to do that. Did you guys know that there are
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: more kids being molested by teachers than by the Catholics,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts combined at their height.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it does not surprise me.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. No. No, So anyway, well, the we're gonna
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: go into the Patron Show to check this out. There's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: a lot more than just what you read. I know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: I say, it's a big paragraph. I appreciate that you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: took the time to give us the time codes Nova Fan,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't want to read them all on the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: air because it doesn't really there's no contact in. It
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense, but I have them, and so I
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: will share this with Allison and we'll we'll make it
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: a thing. Maybe on Sunday, I'm guessing. But anyway, if
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• 1:22:11
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• 1:22:14
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• 1:22:18
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• 1:22:21
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  Speaker 2: kill him. Are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
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  Speaker 2: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to deal with,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you have like especially if you have like
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: a couple of dudes who have good memory. On top
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  Speaker 2: of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked