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Inexpensive Tips To Grow Confidence · Two Broke Chicks

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Speaker 1: Hey jigs, I'm out and I'm and this is two
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Speaker 1: road chicks to show that shares life lessons and tips
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Speaker 1: to be rich in life babies. And we're still in London,
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Speaker 1: bag London in town with an inn direction Simon Cowe,
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Speaker 1: we've been blocking his palls like they.
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Speaker 2: Let me go solo. Simon, come on, you think you're
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Speaker 2: the Lampagne.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm the hurry of the situation.
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Speaker 2: Liampagne was the front anyway.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, heyway, we're doing today by the beautiful money.
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Speaker 2: Hey girls studio. Thanks, welcome to London. Oh my god,
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Speaker 2: how are accents?
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Speaker 4: Can you raid on one to ten?
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Speaker 2: Give me one quick? To be fair, like, oh that's
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Speaker 2: quite good. Yes, I'm about you. I'm not drunk yet.
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Speaker 4: So Al has one super of alcohol and then she's
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Speaker 4: like yeah, but to be real, I just thought he
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Speaker 4: was bang out of order.
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Speaker 2: That's when I know.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, wonder, I love that.
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Speaker 5: And it kind of goes the other way for British people,
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Speaker 5: Like a lot of British people will have a drink
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Speaker 5: and go to Australia.
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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I don't, I don't. I can't do an
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Speaker 2: Australian accent.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So we start every episode with our life lesson
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Speaker 1: of the week.
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Speaker 2: Can be small, big, whatever you want.
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Speaker 1: There's no life lesson shaming here, So as our guest
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Speaker 1: of one, I would you like to kick us off?
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Speaker 2: Well, actually mine is not actually very silly. Mine is
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Speaker 2: actually quit. I love that. Yeah, I think they're earnest
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Speaker 2: on the show. Yeah, it's not. It's not going deep
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Speaker 2: straight away.
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Speaker 5: But I've been reading a little book called Women Don't
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Speaker 5: Owe You Pretty, and I've literally only just started it
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Speaker 5: and I was reading the page just like where she
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Speaker 5: talks about how don't apologize for being emotional. And I
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Speaker 5: actually talked about this on my Instagram story today because
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Speaker 5: it really hit home and I think it's relatable for women,
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Speaker 5: but I think it's relatable for everyone in general. But
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Speaker 5: like it's such I just feel like my whole life,
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Speaker 5: I've always apologized for being emotional. So my life lesson
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Speaker 5: is don't be emotional. I mean, I don't think it's
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Speaker 5: sorry for being emotional because it makes up so much
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Speaker 5: of who I am, and I think like a lot
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Speaker 5: of girlies and anyone probably can.
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Speaker 2: Just relate to that.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I've learned that, Like it's something to champion.
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Speaker 1: Women in general, just like over apologize for everything, literally everything.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, We'll think about when you're like crying in front
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Speaker 4: of a friend or something and your first thing is
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Speaker 4: you're always like I'm sorry, Like you always feel.
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, why, It's completely natural, absolutely, And like she says,
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Speaker 3: like being an empathetic person and like feeling things intensely.
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Speaker 2: Is like such a gift.
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Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, that's so like I've never
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Speaker 5: thought of it like that before, but like it is
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Speaker 5: such a gift because some people drive their whole life,
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Speaker 5: you know, to like unlock that side of themselves. So
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Speaker 5: like if you just have that like natural ability to
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Speaker 5: like open up, but I think it is that is.
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Speaker 2: Such a gift. Yeah, because to be able.
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Speaker 5: To let our emotions it's such a release, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: It is such a release.
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Speaker 2: So oh we're starting off to the show really emotional.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think that's so true. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: do one on the same note because we had just
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Speaker 1: we've just done Italy in Greece and we were doing
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Speaker 1: the Athens Acropolis, right, and like I love seeing like
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Speaker 1: the history and all that stuff, but like I'm like
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Speaker 1: a see a thing and be like Okay, let's go,
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Speaker 1: Like I don't need to look at a building for
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Speaker 1: like more than five minutes.
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Speaker 2: I am uncultured. I'm an uncultured.
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Speaker 1: It's fine, like when I'm looking at a painting, like
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Speaker 1: I'm going to see the Mona Lisa and be like okay,
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Speaker 1: like I'm saying it like that, like ticked off. She's gorgeous,
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Speaker 1: goodbye Mona.
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Speaker 2: Like we had a good time. But anyway, so I.
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Speaker 1: Was kind of also dreading it because you have to
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Speaker 1: walk up the hill and it was like forty fucking
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Speaker 1: degrees and I'm just like a windy and lazy by nature.
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Speaker 1: And then anyway, we were sitting there waiting for this
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Speaker 1: tor to start, and this little girl with her family
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Speaker 1: was having a MENTV about she didn't like her frozen
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Speaker 1: yogurt was valad.
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Speaker 2: I was like, they've been there. I'm like, did you
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Speaker 2: think it was ice cream? Because I've had that, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: yogurt disgusting.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, and her dad turns to her and he goes,
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Speaker 1: your attitude determines whether.
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Speaker 3: Or not you have a good day, and I was like, Dad,
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Speaker 3: you it just rocked me to my cap.
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Speaker 2: Because I was like, fuck, that's true.
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Speaker 1: Because I was sitting there being like I'm stressed about
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Speaker 1: how hot it's going to be and how much walking
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Speaker 1: there's going to be. And then I was like, wait,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to have a good day if I'm
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Speaker 1: like sitting here being like with my attitude. And I
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Speaker 1: literally was like you, I know that there's multifaceted things
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Speaker 1: of our emotions and you can't be like, oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: happy and that'll like cure your depression. I get that,
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Speaker 1: but I think it does kind of help when you
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Speaker 1: are in those little things of being a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a brat. We love brat, but we don't love
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Speaker 1: brats like we're having a brat We're having a brat summer,
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Speaker 1: but in good.
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Speaker 2: Vibes, not bad vibes, you know. Yeah yeah yeah, And
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Speaker 2: it was really good.
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Speaker 1: And someone ever, there's like those moments that I'm a
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Speaker 1: bit tired or I'm like there, you know, everyone knows
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Speaker 1: exactly the vibe be like, no, my attitude determine whether
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Speaker 1: or not I'm having a good time or a bad
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Speaker 1: time with frozen yogurt.
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Speaker 2: So that's me. I love that. I love that. I
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Speaker 2: was like, we love a bit of dad wisdom on
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Speaker 2: the show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was wearing tavas and I was wearing tavas.
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Speaker 5: It's giving emotional intelligence as well, that's what which is
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Speaker 5: always sexy. Yeah you know, yeah, my god, Wait this
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Speaker 5: is so off topic, but have you ever experienced like
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Speaker 5: not liking someone's pheromones before?
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Speaker 2: What natural mask? Yeah? I have experienced, had you, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but only once. Okay.
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Speaker 5: You know you always hear about people who are dating
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Speaker 5: professionals and that's what they do, they help people date
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Speaker 5: and blah blah blah. I always hear these people saying, like,
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Speaker 5: you know, literally down to people's natural pheromones is whether
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Speaker 5: they're compatible for you or not, right.
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Speaker 2: And I've always thought, like, what does that even mean
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Speaker 2: I experience? Oh my god, was or.
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Speaker 5: Feel okay, was going too much into detail. Okay, I
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Speaker 5: have an experience with a male who.
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Speaker 4: Really horrible Yeah read.
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Speaker 2: Already during the morning.
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Speaker 5: But I had an experience where how can I say this?
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Speaker 5: I had an adult sleepover and I remember like waking
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Speaker 5: up and just thinking like it was just a smell.
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Speaker 5: But it wasn't like a bad smell of like bo
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Speaker 5: or like far like it was just like s smell
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Speaker 5: and it was like I just it wasn't my smell.
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Speaker 5: It was no smell I've ever experienced, and I thought,
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Speaker 5: oh my god, this is just his smell.
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Speaker 2: But it disgusted me.
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Speaker 5: Wow, And to be fair, I've never experienced it again,
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Speaker 5: so maybe he was just like really really really just
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Speaker 5: not the one for me.
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Speaker 2: And I never saw him again.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, thanks Africa.
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was almost Yeah. So anyway, off topic, what's
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Speaker 2: your life?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 2: My life lesson?
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Speaker 4: I'll make it a quick one, and that's one that
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Speaker 4: we've said on the show again, but I experienced it
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Speaker 4: again this week truly, so I'm going to bring it up.
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Speaker 2: And it's that.
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Speaker 4: Going for a salt water swim is the absolute baptismal
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Speaker 4: cleanse that you need no matter what is going wrong
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Speaker 4: in your life. Hungover, go for a swim, sad, go
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Speaker 4: for a swim, hot, go for a swim.
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Speaker 2: It works a charm every single time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So you are literally one of the funniest people
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire face.
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Speaker 2: Stupid, so stupid, and I love it.
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Speaker 1: Like the humor is like what how like what if
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Speaker 1: your weird little brain?
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Speaker 2: I love it. It's my favorite thing. You're like, okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm taking somebody. I love it. Words of reformation like
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Speaker 2: You're who I want to be when I grow up.
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Speaker 1: Like, were you always just this silly, goofy little girl.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think like wherever I've gone in life,
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Speaker 5: it's you. I've always just been like the cast cloud
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Speaker 5: or like my my friends.
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Speaker 2: I've always attracted.
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Speaker 5: Like the weird people because I only want to be
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Speaker 5: around like mined people, yeah, who're a little bit silly,
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Speaker 5: don't take themselves too seriously, like I just don't have
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Speaker 5: fun in life. And because I am an emotional person,
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Speaker 5: like I like being around like hearted people who can
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Speaker 5: like lift my.
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Speaker 2: Spirits and I like to do that for other people
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, always, always, And that's what was so funny,
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Speaker 5: is like when I got on TikTok, I was like
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Speaker 5: doing things that was inside jokes within like my friendship
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Speaker 5: group that I would do in always.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know where the tongue started, like it
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Speaker 2: just just began.
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Speaker 5: And then when I started doing it on TikTok and
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Speaker 5: everyone was like loving it, I was like this cannot
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Speaker 5: be real, Like that these everyone in the world seems
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Speaker 5: to enjoy and get the whole like humor.
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Speaker 2: It's so funny.
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Speaker 1: And it's a revolution on the street and do the
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Speaker 1: town thing always. I always, because anyone who doesn't get
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Speaker 1: it just says rand people running up for.
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Speaker 5: Someone and going hello, hell, It'll always just hell, or
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Speaker 5: like oh my god, you're the tongue girl, and I'm like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, text, yeah that does be like you're the tongue girl.
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Speaker 5: Literally, I know you can imagine like when I I
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Speaker 5: haven't been on a date in ages, but when I
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Speaker 5: had been on dates, like people like what do you do?
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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, well, I'm on TikTok. Can I watch
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Speaker 2: some videos like I'm like.
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Speaker 5: Baby, just prepare yourself for this, you know, and if
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Speaker 5: they're not laughing, then get out.
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Speaker 2: What's it like dating?
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Speaker 1: And because obviously you would have to date someone really funny, right, well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to make me laugh.
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Speaker 5: But I like, I was literally just talking about this
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Speaker 5: with somebody, and I often always end up like my
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Speaker 5: past relationships, I've always ended up with like silly, funny boys,
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Speaker 5: but boys who are like quietly silly and funny.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like a little freak, I'm the main character.
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Speaker 2: And I do feel like.
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Speaker 5: You have to have a balance, Like I couldn't. I
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Speaker 5: couldn't be with someone who is also like a main character.
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Speaker 2: Because like it.
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Speaker 5: Just I'm so naturally like that. That's just what I'm
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Speaker 5: like as a person. And I have friends who are
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Speaker 5: equally main characters. But I think in a romantic relationship,
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Speaker 5: I like to have someone who balances me out. So
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Speaker 5: I suppose, yes, they have to make me laugh, but I.
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Speaker 1: But they can't be funnier they yeah, say you have
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Speaker 1: to be the funny.
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Speaker 2: You're never going to be funnier than me.
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Speaker 5: But like you're real, yeah, but you're just you need
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Speaker 5: to just let me shine.
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Speaker 2: And I let you shine in your little.
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Speaker 1: In your way, in your great at the end of
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Speaker 1: that when I let you out of twelve years.
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Speaker 2: Exactly when I let you out your cage. Baby.
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Speaker 5: But like no, in like I like a confident man.
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Speaker 5: But just like let me shine because as well, like
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Speaker 5: when you're a man, you're you're able to shine always
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Speaker 5: in life, just existing.
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Speaker 2: So please just let me shine.
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Speaker 4: I love that, you know what I mean, holding a
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Speaker 4: spotlight on all the men.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can just you're in.
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Speaker 5: The spotlight when you just exist, sweetheart, So like let
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Speaker 5: me yeah, let me be me please. So yeah, they
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Speaker 5: have to like be my like hype man.
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Speaker 2: That's yeah, number one thing I love.
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Speaker 5: That, but it's like your other ex definitely, like this
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Speaker 5: is like the best minimum things, but like being a
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Speaker 5: misogynist immediately, I'm just like, oh my god, I.
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Speaker 2: Just don't like like lad lad lad culture.
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Speaker 5: I hate it. Yeah, I think that's just an inch
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Speaker 5: for me. If you're like a real laddie lad. I'm
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Speaker 5: just like, no, please stay away from me because I
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Speaker 5: don't want to have to educate you on like why
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Speaker 5: like that's offensive.
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Speaker 2: So I actually kind of like feminine men. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: feel like we both, do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think it's just the general things bad breath,
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Speaker 5: bad hygiene, yours. I just I can't like basic human
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Speaker 5: skill us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah he do, because it's like I'm not signing up
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Speaker 1: to being about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah no.
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Speaker 5: And that's the thing my last relationship, I turned into
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Speaker 5: his mom and I'm like, I just have vowed to myself.
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Speaker 5: I'm I just I never want to do that ever again,
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Speaker 5: like please. And also I saw a video about this
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Speaker 5: on TikTok and it literally, oh my God, resonated with
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Speaker 5: me so much in that like when you're like a
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Speaker 5: confident girly, it's so easy to become like the dominant
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Speaker 5: one in the relationship. And like you know, everyone talks
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Speaker 5: about like sitting in your your divine feminine and like
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Speaker 5: letting the man sit in his masculine. And I think,
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Speaker 5: like you know, equality and all that amazing bloodlines. I
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Speaker 5: think whatever, like it can all we can all imagin
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Speaker 5: into one. But I do think human instinct is like
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Speaker 5: the man's probably gonna want to sit in his masculine
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Speaker 5: a little bit, and I'm gonna want to sit my feminine.
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Speaker 2: I know I do.
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Speaker 5: But in my last relationships, I just feel like I've
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Speaker 5: always ended up becoming like.
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Speaker 2: Because like provided they don't let me.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like they don't let me sit in my feminine.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes I want to be sick and.
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Speaker 5: I want to be a pup, but no, you like
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Speaker 5: just like not being like sitting in your masculine.
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Speaker 2: I just like sometimes let me be feminine. Yeah you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: To run the like I think that's the thing. It's
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Speaker 1: like mothering. It's like you then have.
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Speaker 2: To do everything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, I have to tell you how to
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Speaker 1: be a grown up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, and I'm not I'm not saying like be
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Speaker 2: a man in the way in.
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Speaker 5: Which like society has like decided that gatherer like don't. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying like you should earn this amount. I'm
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Speaker 5: saying like peace, Can you just like tickle my arm
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Speaker 5: and like take my back, give me like pick.
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Speaker 2: Me up, can feel me feel little like stupid little
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Speaker 2: things like I don't know, like just yeah, yeah, and
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Speaker 2: that big one.
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Speaker 4: I think it's really interesting because you've said that you
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Speaker 4: have always been super outgoing and confident, but also you
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Speaker 4: have said that you're very emotional. So do you feel
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Speaker 4: like you do have to recharge or are you always
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Speaker 4: on and like this.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have to recharge so much? How
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Speaker 2: do you do it? Still figuring it out?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, but it is interesting, like I think when
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Speaker 5: you are like showing yourself to be a certain way
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Speaker 5: on the Internet or publicly just in general, like there's
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Speaker 5: such a pressure like just.
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Speaker 2: Be that all the time.
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Speaker 5: And I think I'm very open on probably more my
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Speaker 5: like Instagram than I am my TikTok about like how
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Speaker 5: emotional I am and and that side of me. But
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Speaker 5: you know, it's like you are dehumanized so much when
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Speaker 5: you're just like a funny person in general, like on
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Speaker 5: the internet, because again, people don't want to know you
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Speaker 5: to be anything else but.
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Speaker 2: That, And I'm still figuring out how to like come
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Speaker 2: to terms with that because I'm like, that's.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, being funny and being silly is such a big
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Speaker 5: part of who I am, but also being emotional and
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Speaker 5: being like vulnerable is also a huge part of who
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Speaker 5: I am, and like, if you don't accept that part
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Speaker 5: of me, then you're not accepting me as a whole.
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Speaker 2: And then that's like, what do you mean? Like, so
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Speaker 2: it's hard.
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Speaker 5: It is hard, And like if I'm walking down the
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Speaker 5: street and I have, you know, something bad has happened
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Speaker 5: and then someone recognizes me, it's like learning how to kind.
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Speaker 2: Of turn it on.
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Speaker 5: And I don't want to dis a point anyone And
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Speaker 5: I always want everyone to have an experience with me
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Speaker 5: that they can go away and be like, oh it
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Speaker 5: was great. And but that's an unfair pressure to put
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Speaker 5: on myself, which I know now, but I suppose in terms.
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Speaker 2: Of how do I recharge is I will just stay
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Speaker 2: in my flat and like, will you got your little
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Speaker 2: cat now? My uncle two?
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Speaker 5: So again that's like another thing that's really helps me.
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Speaker 5: Actually having my kitties is like, actually I can just
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Speaker 5: sit in my flat now, and not feel so lonely
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Speaker 5: because I've.
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Speaker 2: Got like Sukilulu so close baby. I was Suki Lulu
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Speaker 2: and Mooney Will Will.
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Speaker 5: It was so perfect though I knew it because I
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Speaker 5: don't know, if you know the the like why I
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Speaker 5: came up with the name Suku Lulu focus I did.
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Speaker 5: I did a video where I spoke about if I
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Speaker 5: ever got a pet, like it would have to be
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Speaker 5: called something crazy. And I don't understand it when people
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Speaker 5: call their pets.
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Speaker 2: Like John Henry, you know, something like yeah, like something
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Speaker 2: like Joe. So I made a video of being like
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Speaker 2: I would literally call my pet like and it just
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Speaker 2: came out. And then so everyone was like, if you ever.
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Speaker 5: Get a pet, you have to call it Sucululu, and
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Speaker 5: I was like, it's actually perfect because I can call
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Speaker 5: her Suki for sure, but then her full name is Suki.
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Speaker 2: Lulu and you can do the tongue literally.
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Speaker 5: And then I ended up coming, you know, away with
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Speaker 5: two and I thought, well, he has to be called
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Speaker 5: something a bit crazy as well, and I'd already decided
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Speaker 5: I wanted to call him Moon.
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Speaker 2: So then I was like, oh, okay, he's just going.
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Speaker 5: To have to be like Mooney wear will's.
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Speaker 2: Something crazy and so there we go.
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Speaker 5: It's it's perfect in every single way, and they are
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Speaker 5: perfect in every single way.
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Speaker 2: So they help me recharge.
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Speaker 1: Which is kind of take a bit of time away
18:15
Speaker 1: from the digital spaces in your life when you are
18:18
Speaker 1: doing that rechart.
18:20
Speaker 2: Do you know it's so hard?
18:21
Speaker 5: And again that's something that I'm like, that's a journey
18:23
Speaker 5: for me to know when it's okay to like step away,
18:26
Speaker 5: because again, like I want to provide content for people
18:30
Speaker 5: and and like you know, I guess there any messages
18:33
Speaker 5: from people saying like you're literally getting me through so
18:36
Speaker 5: many hard times and like that's so amazing, and like
18:39
Speaker 5: I love that I can do that for people. So
18:42
Speaker 5: but again I don't want pressure. Yeah it's pressure, and
18:46
Speaker 5: but I don't think that they want me to ever
18:47
Speaker 5: feel that pressure at all.
18:49
Speaker 2: It's it's pressure I.
18:50
Speaker 5: Put on myself and it's only myself to blame for
18:52
Speaker 5: that pressure. But yeah, I think like I should probably
18:56
Speaker 5: learn how to kind of switch my phone off.
18:58
Speaker 1: And you know, there's very hard people that I know
19:03
Speaker 1: that like ken success.
19:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you know when people.
19:06
Speaker 5: Take like it's the breaks or it's tiptop breaks, Like I
19:10
Speaker 5: actually can't do that.
19:11
Speaker 2: Because like it's my job.
19:12
Speaker 5: So it's it's knowing I suppose just being like okay,
19:16
Speaker 5: you know, when is this getting too much or like
19:19
Speaker 5: but you know, I actually haven't felt yet touch wood
19:25
Speaker 5: that like it's ever got too much where I'm like,
19:28
Speaker 5: oh my god, I need to come off the app.
19:30
Speaker 2: And you know, it's.
19:31
Speaker 5: Always felt very welcoming and I've got such a nice
19:34
Speaker 5: community of like fans and.
19:37
Speaker 1: Little who yeah, and so you.
19:39
Speaker 5: Know, it's it's really reached a place where I feel
19:41
Speaker 5: really safe, which is so lovely.
19:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, so happy.
19:45
Speaker 5: Ye.
19:45
Speaker 2: It's like it can be like it can be ruthless
19:48
Speaker 2: out there.
19:49
Speaker 5: I mean when I was building my profile, it was
19:52
Speaker 5: hell like really yeah, and I found I.
19:54
Speaker 2: Got more hate.
19:55
Speaker 5: And it's interesting because I do think the bigger you get,
19:58
Speaker 5: the more hate you get as well. But I do
20:01
Speaker 5: feel when you're growing, that's like a really crucial key
20:05
Speaker 5: point when people will like attack you because it's like, oh,
20:08
Speaker 5: you're trying to do something with your life.
20:10
Speaker 2: Well you're not allowed, how dare you?
20:16
Speaker 5: Like?
20:16
Speaker 2: Who do you think you are?
20:17
Speaker 5: And most of the time for me, it was just
20:19
Speaker 5: like teenage boys like yeah, I'm like a funny girl, baby,
20:23
Speaker 5: like call me when your pubes come in, you know
20:25
Speaker 5: what I mean?
20:26
Speaker 2: Like literally, So I don't know.
20:29
Speaker 5: Now, it's like really reached the point where I'm like,
20:30
Speaker 5: I feel that this. You know, I've kind of established
20:34
Speaker 5: who I am on the app and and what I
20:36
Speaker 5: do that you can't really touch me.
20:38
Speaker 2: So you what you're going to do? Do you know what
20:41
Speaker 2: I mean?
20:41
Speaker 5: I'm doing something so innocent and making so many people
20:43
Speaker 5: laugh and happy. So if you've got problem with that, yeah, exactly.
20:47
Speaker 4: And you've also had so many amazing opportunities springboard off
20:51
Speaker 4: of this platform and community that you've created, including so
20:56
Speaker 4: many celeb interviews and interact celebrity the hot Yeah, because
21:03
Speaker 4: you've met like Austin he say, Eric from the live
21:07
Speaker 4: action Little Murm.
21:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, oh god, the honey. No, I would
21:12
Speaker 5: probably say Austin Butler. Yeah, but no, I'd probably say Austin.
21:17
Speaker 2: But I felt.
21:17
Speaker 5: I actually felt that me and Austin I had a moment.
21:19
Speaker 5: But then I learned that like he's.
21:22
Speaker 2: Like that with everyone.
21:26
Speaker 5: I'm so like, oh, if you ever meet him, you'll
21:33
Speaker 5: literally be like, wow, you're in love with me? No,
21:35
Speaker 5: I'm joking literally, like he's just his eye contact is
21:38
Speaker 5: like so intense. That's so hot though, and he's so
21:42
Speaker 5: charming and like this is all like.
21:44
Speaker 1: Deep now as well and had an identity crisis, oh
21:49
Speaker 1: my god, but and he's so talented like this As
21:51
Speaker 1: a human I found him to be.
21:52
Speaker 2: Very pleasant and obviously he's very very handsome.
21:55
Speaker 4: I was going to say, I love in all of
21:58
Speaker 4: the interviews that you do, like you're still just so
22:01
Speaker 4: confident and one hundred percent yourself. So do you have
22:06
Speaker 4: any tips for anybody to stay confident and be yourself
22:10
Speaker 4: even in moments that are scary or intimidating.
22:14
Speaker 5: I think, to be honest, I have always had a
22:20
Speaker 5: lot of belief in myself, but I think that comes
22:22
Speaker 5: from a self love journey. So I suppose it is
22:28
Speaker 5: a lot about believing in yourself and knowing that, like
22:32
Speaker 5: you know, if you're being put in a situation like that,
22:34
Speaker 5: it's probably because you're.
22:35
Speaker 2: Good at it, for one, and that's a lot of people.
22:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think, like, you know, it's obviously because
22:42
Speaker 5: people believe in you, so like you should believe in
22:45
Speaker 5: yourself because somebody's gone, right, well, we're gonna get Maddy
22:48
Speaker 5: for that because she's great.
22:49
Speaker 2: That's the way I think of.
22:50
Speaker 5: It, and I think, well, you know, I know what
22:53
Speaker 5: I'm doing, and also I will in a way, it's
22:58
Speaker 5: having my audience obvious is like a massive confidence boost
23:03
Speaker 5: going into those situations because I think, well, I know that,
23:07
Speaker 5: even if because I get nervous because I think these
23:09
Speaker 5: celebrities probably don't know who I am, they probably don't
23:12
Speaker 5: know any of my content, and they're probably going to
23:15
Speaker 5: go like, what the hell is this girl doing? But
23:19
Speaker 5: and that is the nerve wracking part, is I think,
23:21
Speaker 5: oh my god, I'm just gonna embarrass myself in front
23:23
Speaker 5: of these people. But like when I always have to
23:27
Speaker 5: think of my audience and like the reason why I've
23:29
Speaker 5: been brought in is one because I'm good at this,
23:31
Speaker 5: but also because it's going to perform really well on
23:33
Speaker 5: my socials and everyone's going to love it.
23:35
Speaker 2: So for me personally, that's what gets me through.
23:39
Speaker 5: But for like the average person, it is a lot
23:42
Speaker 5: of just self belief and that comes from self love,
23:47
Speaker 5: and like there's so many ways in which you can
23:51
Speaker 5: find that and it's such a complicated journey, but like
23:53
Speaker 5: I always encourage people to like find that self love
23:57
Speaker 5: and love yourself so deeply because.
24:00
Speaker 2: You've only truly got yourself.
24:01
Speaker 5: But like if the only person holding you back is
24:05
Speaker 5: yourself and a lot of the time, the nerves and
24:07
Speaker 5: like the worries you have is no one else has
24:10
Speaker 5: told you that it's yeah, yeah.
24:12
Speaker 4: And no one else can say it either. That's what
24:14
Speaker 4: I always try to show myself. I'm like, no one
24:17
Speaker 4: else like knows or thinks that you're freaking out.
24:20
Speaker 2: It's just in your head and you can just fake
24:22
Speaker 2: it till you make it million percent.
24:23
Speaker 5: And it's interesting you say, like, oh, you're so confident
24:26
Speaker 5: because in those moments like I am so I am
24:29
Speaker 5: so nervous, and I get so nervous, but I yeah,
24:32
Speaker 5: I suppose you just go into like a zone of
24:34
Speaker 5: like right, let's just get this done. And that comes
24:38
Speaker 5: from theater training as well. Obviously that's what I did before,
24:41
Speaker 5: like training to be like a performer, so like I
24:44
Speaker 5: have those skills to be able to like just go
24:46
Speaker 5: get into it, get into character almost you know. So
24:50
Speaker 5: I suppose just know that the reason why you're in
24:53
Speaker 5: that situation is probably because you're good at it.
24:55
Speaker 1: Put that shit on a shirt, because yeah, it's like
24:57
Speaker 1: the imposter syndrome of it all. Oh my god, when
25:00
Speaker 1: you're in a job interview or when you're like I
25:02
Speaker 1: actually don't know what I'm.
25:03
Speaker 2: Doing like you do. Yeah, I wouldn't be there if
25:05
Speaker 2: you didn't.
25:06
Speaker 3: Oh.
25:06
Speaker 5: And also someone once told me actually, an Australian musical
25:10
Speaker 5: director who I was working with on a show I
25:13
Speaker 5: was doing a drama school, told me this advice. And
25:15
Speaker 5: he said to me, whenever you feel nervous, just say
25:18
Speaker 5: to yourself, fuck it and.
25:20
Speaker 2: Just do it.
25:21
Speaker 5: And like, I know that sounds so simple, and but
25:25
Speaker 5: like when you actually think about what that is doing,
25:29
Speaker 5: is that's like really just resetting your brain to just
25:31
Speaker 5: go like who actually cares?
25:35
Speaker 2: Only me? So like fuck it, I'm just doing it.
25:38
Speaker 2: Fuck it? Who cares?
25:39
Speaker 5: And like I always have always remembered him telling me that,
25:42
Speaker 5: because it's it's a really good tool to like trick
25:44
Speaker 5: your brain.
25:45
Speaker 2: It's a good switch. Yeah, just like fuck it.
25:50
Speaker 5: And do you know that the same feeling you feel
25:52
Speaker 5: when you're like anxious or nervous is exactly the same
25:55
Speaker 5: chemicals being released as when you're excited. So once I
25:59
Speaker 5: learned that, But your brain can't differentiate the two, but
26:02
Speaker 5: it's exactly the same.
26:03
Speaker 2: So like sometimes you just have to trick your brain
26:06
Speaker 2: to think, actually, I'm excited. It's not the it's do
26:12
Speaker 2: you know what though, well, we probably.
26:14
Speaker 1: Have like bad habits of being like there are moments
26:16
Speaker 1: that are exciting and should be exciting, but we like
26:19
Speaker 1: have bad habits of being like this is exciting, yes,
26:22
Speaker 1: should be nervous?
26:23
Speaker 2: Yes? And no?
26:25
Speaker 5: Or you're like this is all going too good. There's
26:27
Speaker 5: got to be something I'm anxious about.
26:31
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not stressed. I'm like find it, to
26:35
Speaker 2: find what it. Initially I'm sending the neurons to be like,
26:39
Speaker 2: what am I exciting? I'm like, what are you doing?
26:43
Speaker 2: You a little weirder? Just enjoy yourself.
26:46
Speaker 5: And I think that's like it's good to know that
26:51
Speaker 5: because also it's a good way to understand why, like
26:54
Speaker 5: when you're excited, while you might confuse that with being anxious,
26:57
Speaker 5: because your body doesn't.
26:59
Speaker 2: Your body's just a feeling.
27:00
Speaker 5: So then it's up to you and your brain to
27:03
Speaker 5: consciously decide is it anxiety or is excitement? And sometimes
27:07
Speaker 5: that's hard, and like you know, everyone's got better skills
27:11
Speaker 5: at that, But like that's always been such a thing
27:13
Speaker 5: that I've always remembered. It's like whenever I'm nervous or anxious,
27:16
Speaker 5: I think, like, okay, maybe I could just be excited
27:20
Speaker 5: right now, or.
27:20
Speaker 2: Like try and cry.
27:25
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously it depends on the situation, but I
27:27
Speaker 5: was literally talking about this as well, like this is
27:30
Speaker 5: obviously relevant to everyone's situation, and I think medicine is
27:33
Speaker 5: such an important thing and like should be championed and
27:35
Speaker 5: there should be no.
27:36
Speaker 2: Taboo about it.
27:37
Speaker 5: But like I've often thought about going on some kind
27:41
Speaker 5: of medicine to help my anxiety, which I'm still thinking
27:44
Speaker 5: about doing, and I think, absolutely you should do it
27:46
Speaker 5: if it's the right choice for you. But I would
27:48
Speaker 5: never want to completely switch off my anxiety because I
27:52
Speaker 5: find it helpful tool, like because it's telling me when
27:56
Speaker 5: and I'm really I like to think I'm really intuitive,
27:59
Speaker 5: So like if I'm feeling anxious about something and I'm
28:01
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent sure, white, yes, it's uncomfortable and
28:04
Speaker 5: sometimes it's not always the healthiest thing, but it has
28:09
Speaker 5: helped me in so many situations, and so, like you know,
28:13
Speaker 5: I think sometimes it's finding a balance of like you know,
28:16
Speaker 5: in terms of like maybe something that's not going to
28:18
Speaker 5: completely switch off everything you can.
28:21
Speaker 2: You need it because I think it is helpful.
28:24
Speaker 1: And for sure it's that like very cheesy saying, but
28:27
Speaker 1: it's like, but if you don't have like the bad emotions,
28:30
Speaker 1: you don't have the good emotions, Like you don't if
28:32
Speaker 1: you don't experience any.
28:33
Speaker 2: Of those, you don't experience any highs by that.
28:36
Speaker 1: Completely and like it's cheesy as fun, but it's cheesy
28:40
Speaker 1: stuff is good.
28:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love being cheese cheese.
28:45
Speaker 4: It's fun.
28:46
Speaker 1: It's like more fun to be cheesy than it is
28:48
Speaker 1: to be take life too SERI.
28:50
Speaker 2: Yeah I know.
28:53
Speaker 1: But we saw you in the show with Nicola.
28:56
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was amazing. That was like so
29:02
Speaker 5: much that it was so good honestly, like just like
29:07
Speaker 5: when I talk about this makes my heart warm.
29:09
Speaker 2: I had just such an amazing time and like.
29:10
Speaker 5: It was really like the first it was the first
29:13
Speaker 5: and only TV thing I've done so far, like acting wise,
29:17
Speaker 5: it was just such a moment for me to again
29:22
Speaker 5: like I had the imposter syndrome. I came on set
29:24
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my god, like why am
29:26
Speaker 5: I here? Like was anyone going to take me seriously?
29:29
Speaker 5: And then to have like the director and the writer
29:32
Speaker 5: like on set be like so excited that I was
29:34
Speaker 5: there and so excited that was doing the part and
29:37
Speaker 5: I had to audition for it. I owned my place,
29:39
Speaker 5: and like, you know it really I came away from
29:42
Speaker 5: that experience going the only person that makes you think
29:46
Speaker 5: you can't do this now because you do TikTok and
29:48
Speaker 5: that's how people view is you, and like, yes, I
29:50
Speaker 5: can do this because I trained in it before I
29:53
Speaker 5: was doing any of this, and like Nicola was somebody
29:56
Speaker 5: who I was speaking about, Like when I was talking
29:59
Speaker 5: about these people who were so successful in what they
30:02
Speaker 5: do and they still experience imposter syndrome, coming onto set
30:05
Speaker 5: and just having these people to talk to were so
30:07
Speaker 5: inspiring and and like I just loved it so much
30:11
Speaker 5: and I really hope I get to do more of
30:13
Speaker 5: it because you know, and like thank you.
30:17
Speaker 1: You know this sounds weird, but it's like I didn't
30:21
Speaker 1: feel like you were you when you were playing a role.
30:24
Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh, you're Maddie from TikTok playing an
30:27
Speaker 1: acting role like you.
30:28
Speaker 2: I really was like just.
30:29
Speaker 1: Watching the show, like you have that moment of recognition
30:32
Speaker 1: be like oh, and then I was just like I
30:35
Speaker 1: just thought you did an amazing job.
30:37
Speaker 2: So I really wanted to say that much. That means
30:39
Speaker 2: a lot to me.
30:40
Speaker 5: That really does, because I think it was a risk
30:43
Speaker 5: for them as well to take on it like a TikToker,
30:46
Speaker 5: because I've had meetings with the producers like afterwards, and
30:50
Speaker 5: everyone was so pleased and again, like it even just
30:53
Speaker 5: speaking to them was like, it's just reassuring and re encouraging,
30:57
Speaker 5: and they were like, you know, we didn't know what
31:00
Speaker 5: to expect taking on a TikToker, but like you can.
31:03
Speaker 2: Really act like it was like we were.
31:05
Speaker 1: Really pleased and you can sing, which is there anything
31:09
Speaker 1: you can't do?
31:10
Speaker 2: What the fuck you know? Actually? Do you have? This
31:17
Speaker 2: is so nationient. It's just because I love musicals. Do
31:19
Speaker 2: you have a favorite musical? Oh my god, I don't
31:22
Speaker 2: know how to pick. You can pick it up for okay,
31:25
Speaker 2: I would say like.
31:25
Speaker 5: My ultimate favorite of like if I think like what
31:29
Speaker 5: thirteen year old Maddie would say when she was like
31:31
Speaker 5: completely musical.
31:33
Speaker 2: True yes, which still lives within me. Is wicked?
31:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you get you excited.
31:40
Speaker 2: The movies sold well.
31:44
Speaker 5: I think as I've gotten older, I think I would
31:46
Speaker 5: prefer to play Glinda, but I would Alphabet has been
31:50
Speaker 5: my dream role since like I could like start to
31:53
Speaker 5: sing like she literally if I could play either of
31:56
Speaker 5: those parts at any point in my life, I would
31:59
Speaker 5: die ultimate dream.
32:00
Speaker 2: But yeah, hard parts, both of them, so we'll see.
32:03
Speaker 5: Yes, Glynda is a fun role, so fun, and that's
32:06
Speaker 5: why I think it probably makes more sense to me
32:08
Speaker 5: to do Glinda.
32:08
Speaker 2: Right now, you can be.
32:12
Speaker 1: But we want to finish the episode like we do
32:15
Speaker 1: with all of our episodes and ask you what has
32:17
Speaker 1: been your biggest life lesson on your journey so far.
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Speaker 5: I would say the things that you believe are your weak.
32:26
Speaker 2: Points are actually probably your superpowers.
32:30
Speaker 4: I love that.
32:31
Speaker 2: What's an example of that?
32:33
Speaker 5: Probably my being emotional and being silly and being weird,
32:40
Speaker 5: because I often saw that as like my the annoying
32:44
Speaker 5: I was annoying and like I was, I was loud
32:49
Speaker 5: and like disruptive, and you know that they were like
32:51
Speaker 5: my weaknesses as a person. But actually no, they are
32:54
Speaker 5: my the best parts about me, and I won't let
32:58
Speaker 5: anyone tell me otherwise.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, a really really good lesson for people.
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Speaker 2: Full away, Thank you so much, such array of sunshine.
33:11
Speaker 1: We always say, if the chicks are wanting to find you,
33:14
Speaker 1: where can they find you?
33:15
Speaker 2: Which I'm sure they are. It's like kind of a
33:17
Speaker 2: dumb question for just a case for any new people.
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Speaker 5: My name is Maddy Grease Shepson and I am at
33:23
Speaker 5: Maddy Grease Shepson on all platforms.
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Speaker 4: Beautiful Albert, Well, thank you so much for coming in
33:29
Speaker 4: and thanks to your chicks for having us in your
33:30
Speaker 4: ear holes.
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Speaker 2: We love to be here, and thank.
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Speaker 4: You to Spotify London Baby, and also to m I
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Speaker 4: k Made for making today's episode happened.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, love you,