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IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: KRC, the talk station. It's 830, 55 KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas here, wishing everyone a very happy Friday Eve
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  Speaker 1: and reminding you it's that time of week for the
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  Speaker 1: iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff's discussion of crazy things going
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  Speaker 1: on in the aviation world. Welcome back, Jay Ratliff. Love
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  Speaker 1: having you on the show, man.
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  Speaker 2: I look forward to it every week, brother. The countdown
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  Speaker 2: to Thursday always begins.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, man. Alright, so let's start with The
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  Speaker 1: Malaysian Airlines. Lack of oxygen?
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  Speaker 2: Lack of oxygen. That's exactly the case.
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  Speaker 1: We had.
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  Speaker 2: A flight that was departing. It was a Malaysian Airlines flight,
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  Speaker 2: and they had a problem with an oxygen shortage. Now,
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  Speaker 2: by oxygen shortage, it wasn't what they were breathing in
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  Speaker 2: the cabin, but it was what would be used in
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  Speaker 2: the event that the oxygen masks were deployed during the
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  Speaker 2: course of an emergency. They had problems with some of
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  Speaker 2: the oxygen canisters. So as a result, they could not
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  Speaker 2: fill up the airplane. And it was supposed to leave
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  Speaker 2: with 178 passengers, but they had a glitch with some
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  Speaker 2: sort of system that only would allow oxygen for 100 passengers.
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  Speaker 2: So they had to deny boarding to 78 of them
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  Speaker 2: due to a lack of oxygen. So if you have
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  Speaker 2: any issue with any safety-related item, it's on the minimum
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  Speaker 2: MEO list. for an airline, it's the minimum equipment list
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  Speaker 2: that the FAA or whoever governing body is for that
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  Speaker 2: country that says, look, if you're going to operate this aircraft,
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  Speaker 2: these things have to be operating. There are certain items
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  Speaker 2: from a maintenance standpoint, Brian, that are deferrable that you
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  Speaker 2: can put off till your next maintenance hub where the
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  Speaker 2: aircraft might be routed through, and then they can address
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  Speaker 2: any mechanical issue that's minor there. But when you're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with something of a safety item like this, no, you
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  Speaker 2: got to make sure that it is addressed and And
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to put any more people on than
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  Speaker 2: they could take care of. I mean, in an emergency,
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  Speaker 2: the last thing you'd want is people fighting over which
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  Speaker 2: oxygen mask might work. But Malaysian Airlines, not really known
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  Speaker 2: many times for, you know, their maintenance sometimes is a
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  Speaker 2: bit suspect. It has been reported in the past. But look,
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  Speaker 2: they caught this and they made sure that they didn't
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  Speaker 2: have too many people on the airplane. And even though
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  Speaker 2: those oxygen masks probably would not be used, they were
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  Speaker 2: not taking any chances. and they erred on the side
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  Speaker 2: of caution, which is exactly what we want an airline
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Pivoting over, fly-to-buy passengers, obviously a horrific event
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  Speaker 1: they went through, and I cannot imagine not soiling myself
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  Speaker 1: if my plane dropped 15,000 feet in a matter of
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  Speaker 1: a minute going north of the speed of sound. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily reliving the details of that, but this topic
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  Speaker 1: regarding the passengers filing lawsuits over the first officer attack,
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  Speaker 1: It reminded me, I don't recall what happened, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: you can just address this very briefly before we get
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  Speaker 1: into this one. The 737 MAX, where Boeing didn't bother
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  Speaker 1: letting people know about the software upgrade, which resulted in
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  Speaker 1: two planes falling out of the sky. What became of
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  Speaker 1: lawsuits related to that? Because trust me, if I was
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  Speaker 1: a plaintiff's lawyer, I'd be salivating over a client involving
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  Speaker 1: that suit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, remember Boeing admitted, in essence, criminal negligence, and they
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  Speaker 2: had a settlement. Now, this was under the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump gets elected and Boeing goes running back to
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Justice saying, can we withdraw that to
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  Speaker 2: something else? And they were allowed to do it. Brian
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  Speaker 2: just drives me absolutely crazy. That was a criminal.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, any sanctions, fines, penalty, jail time would be criminal.
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  Speaker 1: That wouldn't inure to the benefits of the passengers who
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  Speaker 1: are dead. That would be a civil allegation. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: wondering if anybody filed suit against Boeing.
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  Speaker 2: There's miles and miles of people that are in the
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  Speaker 2: process there. But in the situation with this fly-to-buy situation,
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  Speaker 2: obviously you had the first officer of the airline, an
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  Speaker 2: employee that was trying to kill the captain that was
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  Speaker 2: going to try to kill everybody on board the plane.
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  Speaker 2: And apparently from what we're being told initially, there were
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  Speaker 2: some big time red flags that could suggest that this
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  Speaker 2: individual did not deserve to be in the cockpit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why you had 175 people on board. Brian,
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  Speaker 2: I think the last count I saw was 100 of
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  Speaker 2: the 175 have already begun the legal process. Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's a matter of, you know, yeah. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same thing that we're going to see with the
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  Speaker 2: Selma Blair situation with Delta Airlines where, you know, she
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  Speaker 2: had the medical episode where she attacked employees for Delta,
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  Speaker 2: attacked the police, attacked the, you know, hospital people. And
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  Speaker 2: it's not the first time she's been on a Delta
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  Speaker 2: flight with medical problems.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, apparently there was.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what. Since there's more to this, we're
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  Speaker 1: already at 835. I'm going to pause on that one
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  Speaker 1: because I really haven't been following, because I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who in the hell Selma Blair is. It was just
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  Speaker 1: another Hollywood celebrity or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she had to remind me who she was, too.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat.
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  Speaker 1: Good. I feel better on that somewhat. But the idea
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  Speaker 1: that there were other incidents involved, there was an established, perhaps, M.O.
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  Speaker 1: with this woman, more of that and so much more
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  Speaker 1: coming up with Jay Ratliff. 835 right now, 55KRC, the
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  Speaker 1: talk station. 55KRC. 55KRC, the talk station. You ever been
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  Speaker 1: in a cockpit before? Jay Ratliff has. iHeartMedia aviation expert
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff. We get the pleasure of his company every
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  Speaker 1: Thursday for a few segments. This would be segment number two. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Selma Bayer is some kind of Hollywood actress, and
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  Speaker 1: she goes completely meltdown. Has she attacked flight attendants, Jay,
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  Speaker 1: in this one?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the situation that happened here recently, she did. It
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  Speaker 2: was a situation where the flight was coming in from
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles to New York, and she had... what is
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  Speaker 2: now being described as a medical, a reaction to medication
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  Speaker 2: is how they're phrasing it. And yeah, she was arrested
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  Speaker 2: because she allegedly bit one of the flight attendants. She
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  Speaker 2: injured another flight attendant. I think some other passengers were involved.
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  Speaker 2: When you had the doctors and nurses assisting her later,
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  Speaker 2: apparently she was lashing out at them as well. So
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  Speaker 2: it's something that you're dealing with assault. And when the
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  Speaker 2: name Selma Blair came up, it didn't ding with me.
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  Speaker 2: My wife, Sherry, she said, well, you know, she was
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  Speaker 2: in Legally Blonde. I don't care. I've never seen it.
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  Speaker 2: But she did say in 2005 she was in that
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  Speaker 2: movie The Fog. And I was like, okay, I do
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  Speaker 2: remember that horror movie. And, okay, now I kind of
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  Speaker 2: remember who she was. The whole situation here, though, is
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  Speaker 2: she was on a Delta flight in June of 2016. Now, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: this was a flight from Cancun, Mexico, back to Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: And she had another moment of disorientation on that flight. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there was no assault, but there were things that happened
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  Speaker 2: on the flight that certainly set off some red flags.
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  Speaker 2: So the thought is, okay, Delta, obviously you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to ban somebody over a medical situation, but when you
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  Speaker 2: have issues of assault, especially on an employee or a passenger,
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  Speaker 2: that's when a lot of times that line is drawn
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  Speaker 2: in the sand and the individuals are in essence, banned
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  Speaker 2: from flying that airline for a period of time or
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  Speaker 2: for life, depending on just how severe some of those
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  Speaker 2: situations were. And that's what we're seeing here is that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's a very serious situation. And it'll be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see as this progresses because the family's asking for,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody kind of back off, give her space,
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  Speaker 2: she's just human, those kinds of things, and kind of
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  Speaker 2: downplaying what took place. But the bottom line is it's
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  Speaker 2: now in the realm of the charges being filed Which sadly,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times, you know, I've talked about this.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of times passengers are assaulted and the flight
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  Speaker 2: attendants sometimes are involved and you'll have a situation where
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  Speaker 2: the police show up to try to take statements and
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  Speaker 2: the airline won't press charges because the crew will have
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  Speaker 2: to be detained for a period of time. Interviews have
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  Speaker 2: to take place. A lot of things have to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And they're more interested in getting that plane, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the crew to where they need to go. So another
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  Speaker 2: flight's not delayed as a result, which just drives me
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  Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. Because anybody, flight attendants or passengers, certainly need
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  Speaker 2: to have the benefit of somebody looking into any sort
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  Speaker 2: of allegation of something that might have happened on board
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  Speaker 2: an aircraft.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. All right. Foreign airlines forced to
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  Speaker 1: adjust crew rotations because of Israel's restrictions. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the— I was talking about travel, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a big world travel guy. I don't have a
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  Speaker 1: history of traveling around the globe. My visits to foreign lands,
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  Speaker 1: a whopping— that' d be Canada— London, England, specifically in the UK
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  Speaker 1: and Ireland was actually a vacation.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, I'm not, I'm not a world traveler,
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  Speaker 1: but I was thinking about if I had to choose
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  Speaker 1: a place to go, and I mentioned Israel, cause it's
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  Speaker 1: steeped in history. You've got so much to see thousands
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  Speaker 1: of years worth of history. And I've had opportunities to
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  Speaker 1: go there and, I wouldn't go to a place where
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  Speaker 1: missiles are being dropped on a regular basis. That's just
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  Speaker 1: not a comfort zone for me. So nowhere in the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East sounds appealing. And why would anybody fly there
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  Speaker 1: in the first place is the starting point for me.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, we've had to make some flight adjustments. So
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  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Well, airlines are adjusting flight schedules. But when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to Israel, they're saying, look, any flight crews coming in
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  Speaker 2: on international carriers, they have a list of, I think,
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  Speaker 2: 30 or 31 countries. that says if any of the
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  Speaker 2: pilots are citizens of these countries, for the time being,
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  Speaker 2: we don't want them flying into our airspace. So what's
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  Speaker 2: happening is any airline has to adjust their crew rotation
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that any crew that's scheduled to fly
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  Speaker 2: into Israeli airspace is not from one of these identified countries.
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  Speaker 2: And again, this is temporary. I'm sure that it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the initial knee-jerk reaction to, hey, You know, we
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  Speaker 2: had somebody trying to fly in here that's trying to
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  Speaker 2: attack us. so this is what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 2: And we even had an Ethiopian Airlines flight that was
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  Speaker 2: coming in that it was determined it was a cargo flight. Oops,
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  Speaker 2: one of the pilots was on that list of 30-some countries,
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  Speaker 2: so they had to turn back around land and get
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  Speaker 2: another crew member to then take the flight into Israel
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  Speaker 2: so that they could land and conduct the flight as
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  Speaker 2: they were supposed to. So airlines are being forced to
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  Speaker 2: kind of adjust to this as a result. And look,
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  Speaker 2: it's up to Israel to decide, you know, who they
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  Speaker 2: will allow and who they will not as far as
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  Speaker 2: coming into the country. And yeah, that's one of the
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  Speaker 2: things right now that airlines on top of everything else
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  Speaker 2: have to adjust. And when you're talking about the, I
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  Speaker 2: guess how in-depth it is with regards to crew rotations,
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  Speaker 2: It's easy for that stuff to kind of fall through
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  Speaker 2: the cracks. And a lot of times you have somebody
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  Speaker 2: flying when they're not supposed to be, and that's when
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  Speaker 2: they catch it and say, hey, we've got to do
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  Speaker 2: something about it and get it fixed many times at
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  Speaker 2: the last moment.
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  Speaker 1: It helps if the information is released because fly-to-buy crazy
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  Speaker 1: loony would-be murderer, he was banned by the country of
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  Speaker 1: Oman for getting behind the stick. I mean, the country
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  Speaker 1: put him on the foreboding list.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about red flags galore here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the concern is apparently this guy had intentions
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  Speaker 2: of doing this, from what we're being told, early indications,
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  Speaker 2: before he was hired. So in the minds of Israel
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  Speaker 2: and other countries is, do we have other pilots who
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  Speaker 2: are now flying for commercial airlines that have the same
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  Speaker 2: sort of terrorist intent that at a moment that they
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  Speaker 2: can inflict harm, that they're going to do so? So
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  Speaker 2: it's so much different from a security standpoint because Everyone
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  Speaker 2: is a potential terrorist. And it really is. It's so
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  Speaker 2: unfair to the aviation community, but we understand why when
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  Speaker 2: you've got someone who's in a trusted, trusted position of
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  Speaker 2: a commercial airline pilot who's responsible for the lives of
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  Speaker 2: everybody on that flight is intent on a terrorist act
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  Speaker 2: that's going to kill not only the passengers, but people
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. So it's something we've never had to
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  Speaker 2: deal with before. Hijackings, yes. different types of things on
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  Speaker 2: board an airplane, yes. But a pilot that is deliberately
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  Speaker 2: looking for an opportunity to kill people, no. And that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons that we see a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these decisions being made on how they're going to proceed. Because, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: the thought is, you know, how are we going to
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  Speaker 2: prevent this from happening in the future? And obviously they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be looking a lot closer at, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the mental state of pilots. Anybody starts posting anything radical
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  Speaker 2: if they catch things. yeah, that's going to be addressed
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to make sure that those people aren't
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  Speaker 2: flying and especially aren't flying in certain parts of the world.
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  Speaker 2: But I tell you, there's a lot of people flying
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  Speaker 2: and to have the men and women that are flying
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  Speaker 2: and you've got to police all of that, monitor all that,
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  Speaker 2: try to sift through all the mountains of social media
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  Speaker 2: to try to see if there's anything in there that
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  Speaker 2: would represent a red flag. Yeah, it's a challenge for
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  Speaker 2: everyone involved. And again, that's the uncertainty that really bothers
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: No question about it. You know, your comment about hijacking
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  Speaker 1: just remind me of the days of old with Carlos
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  Speaker 1: the Jackal. It seemed to be hijacking was all the
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  Speaker 1: rage back in the 60s or the 70s.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But, I mean, with the exception of, obviously, events like 9-11,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't really hear a whole lot about hijacking after
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  Speaker 1: a period of time. What changed between the 70s and
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  Speaker 1: the days of Carlos the Jackal and greater airline security
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  Speaker 1: where people just didn't hijack planes anymore? Or was that
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  Speaker 1: vehicle for... proving a point or trying to convey a
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  Speaker 1: point no longer viewed as a best practice among the
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  Speaker 1: terrorists out there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we had some fun because they made an airport
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  Speaker 2: down in Florida look like Cuba. So a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times when people would want to hijack a flight ticket
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  Speaker 2: to Cuba, they'd be, sure, we'll take you there. And
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember the airport name. Say fly around, fly around,
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  Speaker 2: fly around and land in a place that they thought
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  Speaker 2: was Cuba. Ha ha, it's U.S. soil and they would
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  Speaker 2: be arrested. But most of the reason we don't see
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  Speaker 2: the number of those is it was an increase in
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  Speaker 2: technology inside the airport. From a screening standpoint, people simply weren't,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Of course, look, Brian, back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: you bring your shotgun, everything else on board a plane.
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  Speaker 2: And you get your ammunition when you're going somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously, a lot of that has changed. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the bottom line right now is that the technology, billions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars is being spent inside the airport, rightfully so,
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  Speaker 2: to try to make things as safe as we can.
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  Speaker 2: And for that part, we have to give the aviation
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  Speaker 2: industry high marks because they do a very good job
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  Speaker 2: of that. And I'm glad for that. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: areas need more improvement. But yeah, it's the increase in
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  Speaker 2: technology inside the airport that I'm pleased to say has
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  Speaker 2: prevented a lot of that nonsense before. Because you're right,
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  Speaker 2: in the 70s and 80s, it was almost a standing
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  Speaker 2: joke of, okay, how many aircraft this year are going
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  Speaker 2: to get hijacked? And that's why the process, the mindset
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  Speaker 2: of airlines was, okay, like a bank teller, we'll go
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  Speaker 2: along with them. We'll fly them wherever. We'll land. We'll
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  Speaker 2: let law enforcement take care of it. And that was
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  Speaker 2: the same mindset that was in place during the attacks
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  Speaker 2: of 9-11. that were exposed and taken advantage of when
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  Speaker 2: these hijackers, you know, we thought they just wanted to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, be taken somewhere, make a political statement, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And it turned out to be a much more deadly
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  Speaker 2: situation than that, obviously, with the attacks that took place.
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  Speaker 2: But that was the mentality. The airline crews did exactly
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  Speaker 2: what they were trained to do during those days, which, again,
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  Speaker 2: spurs from what took place in the 70s and 80s.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, someday you're going to come on in terms of
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  Speaker 1: areas of improvement that no longer need it. The planes
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  Speaker 1: parked on the tarmac overnight who apparently aren't being watched
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  Speaker 1: as closely as Jay and I would hope they would
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  Speaker 1: be watched. Pivoting over, Delta Airlines spending massive amounts like
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  Speaker 1: every other airline on fuel. Price of fuel has gone up.
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  Speaker 1: We all know this. We have a major problem, not
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  Speaker 1: just supply, but it's also refining capacity is very limited.
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  Speaker 1: So we're dealing with refining shock right now on top
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  Speaker 1: of supply shock. So is it that bad, Jay Ratliff?
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  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Airlines are in essence being charged 70 percent more for
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  Speaker 2: fuel than they were in January. And so what a
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  Speaker 2: lot of airlines are doing at Delta, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: spending six billion extra dollars this year in fuel. As
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  Speaker 2: I recall, the costs are just incredibly high. They're passing
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  Speaker 2: as much of that as they can on to customers.
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  Speaker 2: But Ryan, they're also cutting out specific routes. They're saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: we in a in a good time, we're making minimal
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  Speaker 2: profit flying from here to here. We're not going to
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  Speaker 2: fly that right now as long as the prices are high.
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  Speaker 2: And we have entire markets of some of these smaller
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  Speaker 2: regional airports that airlines are simply refusing to fly to
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  Speaker 2: because they're saying we're going to lose money on every
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: single flight, even if it's full and everybody is paying
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the highest possible fare. So a lot of these smaller
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: markets are really getting hammered because this air service is
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: being removed and they need to drive 90 miles or
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: two or three hours to get to another commercial airport
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to Because airlines are simply saying, no, we're not going
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: to do it. So they're adjusting their flight schedules. They're
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: changing flights. They're canceling them. And it's really impacting the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: consumer because they've got, you know, they made the reservations eight,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: nine months in advance. They did exactly what you and
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I talk about. They saved money by grabbing the lower fares.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And now they're being canceled. And some of these are
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: around the holidays where the airlines say, we're not going
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: to operate. And, you know, the passengers have very, very
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: little recourse because, well, now you've got to find a
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: fare at Thanksgiving, Christmas, end of the year. that you
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: bought in November or December or January at the last minute,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're going to be paying a fortune.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: A fortune. Well, hopefully get this situation resolved shortly. Real
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: quick here, hub delays for a part company this week,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: You know, we've got a lot of weather that's in
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the area. It's going to start to impact Minneapolis, Chicago.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I think Dallas could also get a nice round of delays,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: but I think the real problem child is going to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: be Minneapolis for the delay day. Some of those delays, Brian,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: easily are going to exceed an hour.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Love you, brother. Thank you for coming on the program
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: every week and discussing these issues with us and having
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit of fun, as we always part company.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I love to wish you best of health to you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and your better half.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And to you as well, my friend. Thank you.
• 18:11
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