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The Disturbing Truth About the Israel–Hamas War — Todd Callender Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. If you scroll through your social media feed, especially Twitter, it's a bloodbath. You're seeing images of murders committed, bombs going off, people running and screaming. It's frightening.
• 0:22
  And there is a very real event that is happening right now in The Middle East. There was the attack, the Hamas somehow got over the border, and they attacked a lot of innocent Israeli citizens. And if you look at the reaction to this, you're seeing the massive media, social media influencer apparatus quickly spur into really primarily two different sides of this. So people that are like BLM that are standing with Palestine and saying, look, these are innocent people, whatever. You're seeing a lot of the conservatives and a lot of the liberals that are basically saying, look, flatten Palestine.
• 1:05
  There's no excuse for this. Let's go to war that is instantly drumming on the war drum. Now, I have intentionally not made a lot of statements about this because whenever an event like this happens, what you see if you step back is that there's oftentimes a very, very strong emotional reaction. It's that knee jerk, that gut reaction. And that's what we're seeing playing out.
• 1:34
  I'm seeing an insane amount of bloodlust and really what I would say not level headed analysis of what's going on. And a lot of people that I thought that I follow, whether it's on social media, or on other, you know, various platforms that have instantly turned into warmongers saying, slaughter all these people, it doesn't matter. They're evil. And it's quite shocking. I'm even seeing some people on social media saying that basically that if you don't support Israel completely wiping out Palestine, that you are a jihadist terrorist supporter.
• 2:13
  Now, look, everything as much as possible, as much as I would say, as everything as much as possible, I like to look at objectively and really try to look at what's happening because look going back to COVID or whatever it was nine eleven, even previously, everything that happens is manufactured in some form. It's psychological operations. It's the war that we're in against the deep state against the cabal, whatever you want to call them. We're at war against them, but they're fighting us primarily through psychological operations. And so I'm not in any way saying that the attacks that are happening are not happening.
• 2:57
  I'm not saying that there's just camera crews, it's all made up, and they're all actors. I'm not saying that at all. Innocent people are absolutely being killed on both sides of this conflict. My job as someone that's trying to help you understand what's happening is just to try to get to the bottom of it and to present a very rational understanding of what I think is actually happening. Because I don't think it's ever as one-sided as we want it to be or as we think it is where this is the good guy and this is the bad guy.
• 3:28
  And now if you look back at things that have happened in our country, like nine eleven, for instance, that people are saying this is Israel's Nine Eleven. And in a lot of ways, I agree, but maybe not in the way that they're saying it. So I want to talk a little bit about false flags. And then we'll be getting into the interview with, you know, today's guest of Todd Callender. So we'll talk about some false flags and I'll talk about a few things I'm seeing happening on Twitter, which really helps set the stage for today's conversation.
• 3:53
  So let's go to our trusted source, the BBC. Actually, it was ended up being a pretty decent article about what false flags were. Now, of course, they're trying to say that in this article that the false flag they're talking about is that they're worried Russia will stage a false flag in Ukraine. Of course, it's the BBC. But false flags, what are they and when have they been used?
• 4:13
  Now, a lot of people think that a false flag means that it was fake and that nothing actually happened, which is not true. A lot of times false flags are real and people do die. Let me just go down to this article and show you what they say a false flag is. I think it's it's a very good description. They say what is a false flag?
• 4:31
  A false flag is a political or military action carried out with the intention of blaming an opponent for it. They say nations have often done this by staging a real or simulated attack on their own side and saying the enemy did it as a pretext for going to war. The term was first used in the sixteenth century to describe how pirates flew the flag of a friendly nation to deceive merchant ships into allowing them to draw near. Now what's interesting is that if you look at to the right of this article, all these stories that they're promoting next to this article are all about what happened in Israel, the fest how festival massacre unfolded from a verified video and social media source, the hostages being taken. Now, again, I'm not saying that those things didn't actually happen.
• 5:25
  Alright? I absolutely believe that these things are happening. What I'm saying is, why are they being allowed to happen? And that's that's the big question here. And that's what, you know, I'm gonna be talking about with Todd Callender is how on earth did Israel with arguably one of the greatest intelligence agencies on earth, the Mossad, in addition to the IDF, the Israeli Defense Forces.
• 5:53
  I believe that's what it stands for. In addition to the technology that they had, the surveillance technology, which is really in a lot of ways unmatched. Mean, Israel is one of the global leaders in surveillance technology. A lot of the technology is being used against us here in America actually came from the mines and the laboratories over in Israel. So how did this attack happen that these Hamas just flew in with hang gliders and landed in this festival and started slaughtering all these social media stars.
• 6:23
  Now, what's also odd is that that festival was moved locations. So two I think it was two days before the attack happened, before the festival happened, it was suddenly moved to a different location. So was that intentional? I don't know. All I'm doing is asking questions.
• 6:38
  So but what's also is happening with this is that as you see this psychological operation unfold, which it is, I mean, everything that happens around us is in some way a psychological operation, which is in propaganda is psychological operation. It's just something trying to influence how we perceive something. Right? And so if you look at the role that Twitter has played, which I'm glad that Twitter has free speech, and it's fantastic, and they're seeing massive increase in usage. The other problem, though, is that it's become in a lot of ways the new arm of misinformation.
• 7:12
  Now, I'm not saying that it's people spreading conspiracy theories about vaccines because that's what the the left and the establishment wants people to think, but I'll pull this up as an example. Okay. So Donald Trump Jr. And I'm not I'm not saying that he does intentionally. He shared this video, I'm not gonna play the video.
• 7:30
  It's very, very gory and shows all these dead bodies. This video that he shared got 4,100,000 views. He said you don't negotiate with this. There's only one way to handle this. He says video source within Israel.
• 7:47
  Now this is probably sent to him by a friend in Israel. Perhaps. It's a video of what looks to be Hamas militants slaughtering innocent people that are trying to hide in a room, and this room is just littered with dead bodies. Now, if you go through and you read all the comments in response to this video, the comments are, this is disgusting. We need to kill these people.
• 8:13
  I mean, strong comments. Look, this is the son of Donald Trump that shared this video, so you'd trust it. That's a trusted source. Well, it just so happens that that video is actually for 2015. That's when it first emerged on the Internet.
• 8:28
  And it's the exact same video, It probably was some sort of murder that happened. It was the Taliban or whatever. But think about this. We used to complain if we saw that the New York Times would run a fake story and then, you know, it runs on the front page, and maybe it gets however many million views, you know, the circulation is maybe around a million for print newspaper, their web obviously has more reach than that. Then they publish a little redaction, right?
• 8:53
  They put this is a method, it's a tool of the mainstream media is that they would then publish a little redaction on the inside of the paper saying, oh, we made a mistake and it wasn't actually true. It doesn't matter. The story already played its role. The story was already out there. How many times we see them do that against Donald Trump?
• 9:10
  They'd play a story about Donald Trump. They'd be in the front page of the New York Times. It was actually not true. There's a little redaction. So here we have this video that got over 4,000,000 views that most people that saw that video and had an emotional reaction to it, an emotional reaction that justified the genocide of people in the neighboring nation, right, laying waste, you know, paving it like a parking lot as some people have been talking about.
• 9:37
  That emotional reaction was based upon misinformation. And I'm seeing even a lot of the conservatives, it's funny because a lot of conservatives and more alternative right, alternative media pride themselves and being red pilled and, and we see through it. I'm seeing a lot of these voices actually sharing these videos very quickly without actually researching. So they're playing into this psychological operation. Now you've also seen the story, I'm sure about how the Hamas had decapitated, I think 40 babies.
• 10:09
  Now, let me remind you that the same thing happened in Iraq. I'll pull up something here. But what we found out later was that here's terrible on Twitter. Did you know that in order to justify the Gulf War, George h w Bush intentionally manufactured a story about Iraqis taking babies from their incubators and leaving them to die? It turns out that Naira was the daughter of Kuwait's Ambassador to The US.
• 10:39
  Her testimony was organized as a part of Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign. This itself was a front group created by an American PR firm hired by the Kuwaiti government. Could similar tactics be used to involve The US in foreign conflict with Israel and Hamas? So, again, this was a very, very specific young girl. She's a you know, give a a testimony about how to do this.
• 11:07
  They found out the whole thing was propaganda. The whole thing was a psychological operation to justify war. Okay. Again, going back to false flags. What is a false flag?
• 11:18
  Right? Staging a real or simulated attack on their own side, nations doing this, saying the enemy did it as a pretext for going to war. So this is what I'm seeing. This is what concerns me. Another thing now again, talking about these babies that we're seeing, you probably saw this going all over Twitter.
• 11:41
  So that the story was about about 40 babies are taking out on the gurneys, cribs overturned, stores left behind, doors left wide open. Well, now we're seeing that this isn't even a confirmed story that now there's actually they're they're backtracking. And they're saying that an Israeli army spokesperson tells them over the phone that they have no information confirming allegations that Hamas beheaded babies. So when I hop on to Facebook, and I see what the narrative is on my friends in Facebook, I'm seeing so many people now with the Israeli flag in their profile that are saying how could they behead babies, you know, this justifies war. It's the same engine going.
• 12:22
  I'm not saying though, that babies weren't killed. I'm not saying that there were children put in cages. But what I could say is that I saw one video, I first saw it, that was supposedly, Palestinian, you know, toddlers or sorry, Israeli toddlers in cages. They're being mocked. And it was a very sad video, seeing these little kids in cages.
• 12:42
  I found out later through some research that that video was actually showing that they were Palestinian children and that they were in Israeli cages. So all that I'm the point that I'm trying to make here is that we have to be so discerning. We have to keep ourselves level headed. When something happens, we have to wait. We have to not just gut react to it.
• 13:09
  Because then we part become part of their mechanism that divides us, that forces people to choose sides, that forces people to call for the genocide of other innocent human beings, that forces people to play into this. And this is the same tactic that's been used for hundreds and hundreds of years for centuries and centuries. It's been used to divide people and to get them fighting against each other. And what I'm seeing now is I'm seeing a massive rift in the conservative movement. I'm seeing people that are insanely pro war and they're just fear you know, warmongering and pounding the war drum.
• 13:48
  And I'm seeing the opposition to that people and also seeing people that are saying, hey, I'm kind of on the side of the Palestinians with this because of this information. So, again, I'm not trying to take sides here. I actually don't have the only side that I'm on honestly is the side of humanity. And I believe that whether it's the people living in Gaza, or the people living in Israel, or people living in South America, they're trying to come to America for a better life, that they're all by and large people just trying to live their lives, trying to raise their families, trying to take care of themselves, trying to build a future they can look forward to. And it's really it is these it's this cabal, this this elite, this small group of people, and I'm gonna go into any details in this episode of that, it's them controlling us and dividing us up and getting us to fight each other.
• 14:37
  Because every time that we fight, every time that we rush off with fear and anger, and create new conflict that we're convinced is the other person on this other side of the aisle that is the enemy. Every time we do that, it makes them easier and easier for them to break us apart even further, and to bring in their control mechanisms to control us even further. And so this is such an important point that we cannot lose sight of this. Absolutely, we cannot lose sight of this. So, folks, please enjoy this interview with Attorney Todd Callender's.
• 15:09
  He's got actually, has people that he knows that are Mossad that he's talked to. He has people in the Israeli Defense Force that he's also talked to. So he brings a really important narrative to this discussion. But we're also gonna be talking about what is this distracting us from? So while 98% of my social media feed is Israel, does that mean that everything else stops?
• 15:30
  Does that mean that the the global vaccine program is stopping? Does that mean that whatever happened with October 4, October eleventh, and the five g, does that mean all that stopping? Or is that actually still moving forward in full force? And so we're gonna be talking about Israel, talking about Hamas, but we're also gonna be talking about what are the important stories that have now disappeared into the sea of coverage of what's happening in The Middle East. So folks, please enjoy this interview with my good friend, attorney Todd Callender.
• 16:00
  So Todd, it's great to have you back on the show. There's a lot for us to talk about. First off, how are you doing?
• 16:10
  Todd Callender: Great. We live to find another day, Seth. That's what I feel like that every time we get back together, we're still here. It's a great day to be alive.
• 16:18
  Seth Holehouse: That's a good point. That's a good point. So, there's a lot that we're going to cover in today's show. I want to jump back on what's happening since October 4. Today's October 11, the second test.
• 16:31
  What, see what happened with that. You've got some really alarming data about the zoonotics and, you know, basically using, as I understand, you know, the manufactured diseases to take out the animal supply, take out the food supply. But we've also simultaneously have if you go to Twitter, for me, 98% of what I'm seeing is Israel Hamas. This is there's it's interesting because my wife and I were watching this series called The Three Kingdoms. We bought it's like a 70 episode set, and it tracks the historical period of the Three Kingdoms in China.
• 17:10
  And it there's so much wisdom in this doc and it's it's it's a not a documentary, it's a miniseries. But one thing that I always see, you have these generals that want to rush into something, and they all have advisors. And the advisors are consistently saying, wait and see what the situation is first. Don't rush into it. And that's why when this what happened with Israel and Hamas attack broke out, I didn't just jump into it and say, I stand with Israel or I support Palestine or whatever.
• 17:37
  I just waited. And I'm observing because I can, you can see when a massive psychological operation is underway. Yes. And so I just I really want to because you're, you know, you're just a brilliant guy and you're observing these things. So what is your take on the bigger picture of what's happening in The Middle East right now?
• 17:57
  Todd Callender: You're right. You're absolutely right. It's the ropodope, right? They're doing it again. And what's really encouraging to me, Seth, is that after literally thousands of years of humanity falling for this ropodope, same thing over and over again, the Hegelian dialectic, don't forget the, was it the first Gulf War, it's the Kuwaitis and the Iraqis, and somebody was throwing babies out of the incubators, it turned out to be a complete falsehood.
• 18:27
  Here we have theoretically 40 babies that were beheaded by Hamas, that story is falling apart. I have known and met people both in the military in Israel and also from their intelligence services, in Mossad, there is a 0% possibility, 0% possibility that that attack happened without them knowing, without Israel's defense in Mossad knowing about it, they must have allowed that to happen, because there is no greater intelligence group on this planet than the Mossad. So what does that tell us? The horrible carnage was allowed to happen, that it was exacerbated by beheading 40 babies and people who traded it around, and all of that is really disturbing to us, to humanity, and the good people that see it. But what are we seeing instead is a lot of people taking a step back just like you are and saying, hey, wait a minute, all of this isn't making a lot of sense.
• 19:31
  Why now? What is this really about? What are they actually trying to hide? Because this looks completely fabricated, complete with paragliders, the guys with machine guns. Mean, this is Hollywood stuff here.
• 19:43
  Right? It's all filled. It's all contrived. I'm not saying people didn't die. I'm not saying it's it's not horrible because it is.
• 19:50
  It just looks very well planned.
• 19:53
  Seth Holehouse: And I think that there's a lot of people that are saying, oh, this is Israel's Nine Eleven. And actually, I couldn't agree more that nine eleven, I think as an example, was what I would consider a false flag. Which, know, false flag goes back into what the the pirates would actually raise up instead of a pirate ship flag, they raise up a British crown flag and they think, oh, you know, they're on our side and they come and they attack you. So it was all about deception. But it doesn't mean that nineeleven, as an example, it doesn't mean that no one died.
• 20:24
  It's not taking away from the fact that Americans were killed. I think in a lot of ways Americans were sacrificed for the the war agenda of the elites of the cabal. And so I think that with what's happening in Israel that similarly, we're not saying, and this is really important, is that we're not saying that no one's died, that they're all actors, that it's fake. Real people are being killed. I think the point is is that
• 20:49
  Todd Callender: That's right.
• 20:49
  Seth Holehouse: That was allowed to happen.
• 20:53
  Todd Callender: It was. I mean, it's not the first time, even with the players here. You looked up the USS Liberty, people don't want to talk about that. I encourage you to look it up for yourself, but that was one of our ships. It was attacked by elements of Israel.
• 21:09
  Nobody knew anything about it, the Israeli government, and yet it happened. The idea was to film in a war with Egypt, to draw everybody in. That failed, and I think this is also going to fail, because it looks contrived, and again, what you said is true. It's horrible, there are people terrified in Israel. I find it very strange that there are so many armed Israelis.
• 21:33
  The Israeli Defense Force people take their weapons home, as I understand it. So why are they not defending themselves? Why are they disarmed? I saw that they were issuing weapons just yesterday. But how is this possible that you have people making incursions so far into Israeli territory, given the totality of circumstances, the ability of Israel to defend itself all of these years successfully in every single situation?
• 22:00
  In every situation they fought to the bitter end, and yet this time they're occupied. None of that makes any sense to me.
• 22:08
  Seth Holehouse: No, it doesn't. What also doesn't make sense to me as well is that there's of course, you see that a lot of the typical characters are outspoken in the media or the the big influencers that are, you know, like Ben Shapiro as an example, who's I I you know, staying with Israel, let's let's flatten Palestine, let's you know, they're taking a very strong stance, but I'm also seeing that there's a lot of folks in that are have a very large audience that are more, you know, more alternative in their approach that are taking the exact same stance. People that know that nine eleven was not what it was made to be. They know that parole harbor was allowed to happen and and that our government, our president received intelligence that was gonna happen ahead of time and allowed it to happen. So they know they they've seen history, yet something about this, something about this has turned so many people into these it's it's like a rabid bloodlust where they're basically calling for genocide of the the Palestinian And they're people that I thought were actually quite level headed.
• 23:10
  I find that so shocking yet also not
• 23:14
  Todd Callender: shocking. Yeah. Either way, it's it's disturbing because we were so easily brought into this dual paradigm, the duopoly paradigm, Us versus them, Israel versus Palestine, and it trivializes the human element. In every case, both sides, these are human beings, and if people can raise their thinking just a little bit, a little higher, and with the base element, we're all humans, and if you put aside these kinds of things, these horrible atrocities that have happened for thousands of years, and you take note of the fact that everybody cries over their dead, everybody loves their children, everybody treasures their parents. Those are commonalities, are human traits, and it doesn't matter where in the world that you go, they are one and the same.
• 24:04
  And I think the powers understand this, the powers who are clearly not human, and I mean that in the sense of the word it's impossible for them to have empathy, they're sociopathic, they take pride and joy in the grievance that they cause, the horrific torture and pain that these kinds of things cause us. So, those of us that are human and do feel these things need to take a step back and analyze what we just went through in Ukraine. What was the truth about that? What is it we were told? What is this paradigm?
• 24:37
  How is it different? And the short answer to that question is it isn't. In the Ukrainian situation, those of us that have been watching this and understanding the true goal of the enterprise, which is killing 7,000,000,000 people, they have tried to antagonize Putin amongst others into a nuclear exchange. How is this any different with Iran, Hezbollah, the Palestinians versus any number of people, right? You get the Saudis involved, God knows where that's all going to go.
• 25:06
  Syria is theoretically launching missiles. None of it makes sense. All of it is chaos. All of it is designed for one thing, Seth. That goal of 7,000,000,000 people must be gone by 02/1930.
• 25:18
  That is their mandate. And they don't care how that happens. Nuclear exchanges are their preferred way because they know that seven billion people are going to die. That is what this is really about. It's about depopulation, and while this is happening, there's a lot of other things happening in the background.
• 25:35
  Plans A through E are still in existence, they're still trying on COVID, they're still trying on these Tillshots called vaccines. Other vectors of death are happening at the same time. So if we just raise our thinking a little bit and understand what this is really about, it's the extinction of humanity is what this is really about.
• 25:54
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. And something so if if you look at how this event, you know, triggered and you look at the social media, and Twitter really has become the the I mean, it always really was in a sense the the public town square. It was where the public discussions happened, especially since Elon Musk came under. You've had a lot more of the much more conservative voices that were, say, on Parler or Truth Social that now have come back to Twitter. So you have this true dialogue happening of, I think, most segments of society.
• 26:25
  And but we see those, you see so much of this content is coming out through these online platforms. So, you know, say twenty years ago, CNN would have to go in and they might stage something and they might film something and that that becomes
• 26:41
  Todd Callender: That's awesome.
• 26:42
  Seth Holehouse: And it's on the cover of Time Magazine and that's what then gets the public fired up about war. But now it's just what goes viral on Twitter. But we've also seen there's been a lot of examples. There was a video that Don Jr. Shared, just recently that was, you know, supposedly, it was a video of this room of these people that had been massacred, and he was like, go get them right now.
• 27:01
  It was a very strong statement. Well, that video is from 2015. I'm not saying that he's a disinformation I'm just saying that people are inserting these videos and then these big these big accounts without checking and seeing because it's not easy to find when a video first came out, are sharing it. Right. Which also makes me think that if you look at what happened in Ukraine, they had they gained they I think they learned a lot from Ukraine.
• 27:28
  I think that they gained the support from one segment of society yet on the much more on the more conservative, especially as you got more far right, there's a lot of questioning of the Ukraine narrative. Whereas the people that were questioning Ukraine, I find are now almost cheering on Israel flattening Palestine. Yes. And so, anyway, let share your thoughts.
• 27:48
  Todd Callender: No, no, all of that is so true. And I was actually just going along with you here in my mind thinking, okay, why? Everything you just said, the question comes to mind, why? And we can reason this for ourselves. It all comes back to the exact same paradigm, which is to cause turmoil, conflict, war, death.
• 28:06
  It's to cause death in each and every instance. It matters not who is killing who, simply that they are being killed. And if you look at Israel, it is a good example as it relates to COVID, who was the very first country that got all these kill shots? Israel. They got them a month before everybody else.
• 28:25
  Their mortality rates were far in excess of everybody else's. They got the hot shots, so to speak. Yeah. There were there were bad batches and there were worse batches. Poor Israelis, you know, they they got double barreled stuff.
• 28:37
  Their mortality rates are astounding.
• 28:39
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
• 28:54
  Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
• 29:11
  So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
• 29:25
  Now, let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
• 29:52
  What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200, one ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
• 30:13
  It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
• 30:53
  It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine.
• 31:05
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• 31:45
  Todd Callender: It isn't a function of Israeli or Jew versus whoever else. It's a function of are you human or not? That's the real paradigm there, because humanity must become extinct according to the rules of this game, the rules of this enterprise, the agenda for the twenty first century. You know, they wrote it all down, Seth. It is not like this is being hidden.
• 32:08
  7,000,000,000 people, how do you go about killing 7,000,000,000 people? And when we stopped, and I mean the royalty, humanity stopped, the biggest killing machine on the planet were the COVID shots, use of force authorized, the US military was going to rule this out and public health became weaponized, right? Tedros Adnan, the Director of the World Health Organization, is now in charge of the US DOD and every other military on the planet. But even then, they couldn't succeed in getting everybody to take the kill shots. So, what happens next?
• 32:39
  Ukraine, what happens next? We can have this invasion of Israel, let's flatten everybody. Who is it saying that? Who is it over and over every single time saying the exact same thing? You know, at the top of my list, most recent guy is Lindsey Graham, right?
• 32:55
  Any excuse to devastate, to destroy humanity is fine with him. And I'm sure there are a whole lot of other examples, but it is nonetheless in every instance the same. Part of the things I was sending you today is just another vector of death. The good news in all of this, as we discuss these things, as we raise people's thinking and awareness a little bit higher to look at what the true paradigm is, humanity is fighting back. Humanity is not falling for the roper dope, Seth, it's actually working.
• 33:24
  It's really a function of frankly what you're doing. You and a whole lot of other good people like you are doing God's work. You're helping people understand the real paradigm, and we're opting out, opting out in huge numbers, even from Wednesday last.
• 33:38
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly, and so I want to hone in on that,
• 33:41
  Todd Callender: but I
• 33:41
  Seth Holehouse: want to show you one more thing as it relates to Israel because one technique, and we see this, look at January 6, look how many Fed agents, how many CIA agents were involved in that. Look at the the, you know, Gretchen Whitmer, you know, kidnapping case. It was all the Fed's doing. So, and this is something, again, going back to the three kingdoms, this was showing hundreds and hundreds of years ago what happened in ancient China, it was very common to have an enemy go inside the the other side and start some sort of response and attack and then that justifies war. And so we're also, I saw reports coming out saying that Mossad was involved with the Hamas and that they were actually involved with the attack.
• 34:22
  But also I want to play a quick video. This is Ron Paul because even the idea of
• 34:26
  Todd Callender: the I should say. We created Hamas.
• 34:28
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. So let play this because this is important. Because as everyone's saying
• 34:33
  Todd Callender: of course.
• 34:33
  Seth Holehouse: Kill Hamas and kill and and flatten Palestine, you have to ask yourself, okay. Where did Hamas come from? So let me play this video because this adds some important context. It's a minute long.
• 34:43
  Robert Kiyosaki: You know, Hamas, if you look at the history, you'll find out that Hamas was encouraged and really started by Israel because they wanted Hamas to counteract Yasser Arafat. You said, well, that was better than and served his purpose, but we didn't want Hamas to do this. So then we, as Americans, say, well, we have such a good system. We're gonna impose this on the world. We're gonna invade Iraq and teach people how to be democrats.
• 35:04
  We want free elections. So we encourage the Palestinians to have a free election. They do, and they elect Hamas. So we first indirectly and directly through Israel help establish Hamas. Then we have election.
• 35:13
  Then Hamas becomes dominant, so we have to kill him. You know, it it just doesn't make sense. During during the eighties, you know, we were allied with Osama bin Laden, and we were contending with the Soviets. It was at that time our CAA thought it was good if we radicalized the Muslim world. So we finances the Madrasa schools to radicalize the Muslims in order to compete with the with the Soviets.
• 35:38
  There's too much blowback. There's a lot of reasons why we should oppose this resolution. Know?
• 35:45
  Seth Holehouse: There you go. What say you, Todd?
• 35:48
  Todd Callender: Well, it's not funny. Well, this brings to mind, and if memory serves me, Osama bin Laden's birth name was Tim Osmond. So, he was a creation, right, of our government, no different than Hamas is a creation of our government. And if we go back to the whole issue of who is really behind us, it's the owners of this world. It's the same ones, they own countries.
• 36:12
  So, if they can own countries and they can own militaries and they can own anything and everything, if they want to create a conflict, how hard is it for them to do that? They just, you know, whip up some solutions and demonize one side or the other, or get two people or two groups fighting like that. It's this paradigm, you said you've been reading about this from ancient Chinese texts. That's because this has been around for time memorial. There's a word for this called agent provocateurs.
• 36:40
  Right? Exactly what you were saying. None of this is new. And are we in a place? Have we grown as humans to now understand what this is really about.
• 36:52
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks, I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person? Just one person because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people and the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it.
• 37:13
  So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person, it helps so much. Thank you so much.
• 37:20
  Todd Callender: What I was saying is that just what you made reference to Seth, the Chinese, ancient Chinese texts talking about false flags, agent provocateurs is the word I was looking for. This has been around for thousands of years. Nothing is new here, and Ron Paul's got it right, and I think you've been researched, Osama bin Laden's birth name was Tim Osman. The point is, he was a creation when the owners of this world, the ones that own the mice, why own governments, own militaries, there's nothing that stops them from getting two sides to fight with each other. All they need is a bunch of humans to get whipped up into a frenzy based on religion or based on memories or familial relationships, whatever the case, national relationships, any cause will do, as long as they're getting humanity to kill each other, as we've done for thousands of years.
• 38:09
  The good news is I think they're failing. I think people are opting out, and I really think that this is our opportunity to take our planet back.
• 38:17
  Seth Holehouse: I I agree. I want to dig into that specifically. And one just one last quick point, before we jump into that is when when I see these these videos of people in Israel, we know that, in Israel, they have no second amendment. Some people do have guns built that, know, were in the military, they might have a gun, but by and large, it's not America. And it really, really reminds me even more why that second amendment is so powerful.
• 38:42
  And I think that the people that are fighting against the ability to say own an AR 15, they say why need it for hunting deer? It's the fact that in the human history countries get invaded, even if it's not our own government turning tyrannical invasions happen, enemies come across borders, cartels actively, right? There there's now warnings coming out that this week, this Friday, that there could be jihadist attacks around the world, right, in Jewish centers. This just shows that this is why I talk a lot about being prepared. It's not just having a gun and ammo, knowing how to use it, Having food, having water, having alternative energy sources, having not all your money sitting in a bank account that can get turned off, having it in silver buried in your backyard if you have to.
• 39:25
  Like this is just it's a stark reminder that no one on earth, no one on earth is immune from war, pandemic, famine, none of us are.
• 39:36
  Todd Callender: That's right. That's exactly right. And it's happening now, right? Those people wandered across somehow the Israeli border, right, which is an impossibility, but it happened, right, whether it was by paraglider or otherwise, it makes no difference. We have open borders.
• 39:53
  There is nothing stopping people coming into The United States right now, they've been doing it now for a couple three years, frankly it's been a lot longer, but in masses, and they've been financed to do it. So, we are in the middle of an invasion, and I know Americans don't want to think about it, I know they don't want to know or consider this as being a possibility. Why? Because it means you have to do something about it. That's what that means.
• 40:16
  But at the minimum, Seth, people can do what you just said. You can prepare yourself, and I couldn't agree with you more. You think your money is safe in crypto or in a bank? Boy, that couldn't be more false. Even the Israelis shut off all of Hamas' money with crypto accounts they were using.
• 40:32
  So, not safe. Get yourself physical currency, silver, gold, what you hold in your hand is really what you have. And by the way, the other prep that nobody talks about, but people have to understand skills, build your skill sets, right? We can eat from our labor alone, but you have to have skills others don't have. Build your skill sets while you can, because this is coming.
• 40:59
  7,000,000,000 people are marked for destruction, extinction. It doesn't matter if it's an invasion or nuclear war, death is coming to us if we allow it. It's our job to not allow
• 41:12
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. And it's our responsibility as husbands, as fathers, as sons, it's our responsibility. So I want to there's a lot of other stuff I want to really dive into with this. I mean, obviously, we've got October 4 and what happened with that. But also
• 41:30
  Todd Callender: Yeah, it happened.
• 41:31
  Seth Holehouse: The well, so how about we go into that? Because after we talk about October 4, I wanted to then talk about what is the big thing we're being distracted from now that 99% of the people are just focused on one region in the earth. What else is happening? But I want to dive into just an update on October 4 because the video that you and I did, it probably across different platforms got over half a million views. I mean, was really, really, really spread far.
• 41:54
  And so I wanted to Did you did you see anything happen as a result of that? What's your analysis of this, of the October 4 broadcast?
• 42:03
  Todd Callender: Well, from a personal perspective, you know, I live in a very small country on a small island and three people suffered strokes at the same time when all this happened. That's a statistical impossibility, yet it happened. We have other anecdotal reports from around The United States, and even other nations, where people actually measured the electronic frequencies, the magnetic radiation spikes, all of it was modulated. This wasn't just some EBS signal. It wasn't just, you know, hey, this is a warning, it's a test, you know, here comes the president's message to you.
• 42:40
  All of that is unnecessary to having these huge spikes in EMF radiation. And that's, by the way, what is dangerous. It's the pulse of the modality, it's the up and down that is so harmful to the human body. And they just did us a favor by telling us that, you know, it's a test. You don't normally hear this, right?
• 42:59
  They are cooking us all of the time, and the question is simply how much harm do they want to cause you at any given time. And, you know, these psychopaths that are doing this, they take pride and joy in freaking people out. They love when they cause us issues and fear, angst, so they're going to do it again, right? I mean, and the reality, I believe, is that by virtue of these pulse signals, I think we're going to see a hemorrhagic fever outbreak in November. They'd probably do it again today.
• 43:31
  They said it was going be on the fourth and the eleventh, I expect this afternoon. A lot of the people that we work with are going measure the spikes going up and down just like they did on the last Wednesday. And going forward in the future, we may not get any notice of it. It's just there. And so, unfortunately, Seth, it's probably not until people start bleeding out of their eyes, their ears, falling dead on the street, that people are going go, Oh, wow, I guess maybe that actually did happen.
• 43:56
  But in the meantime, there's nothing stopping people from they're getting abused, and now there are 11,000 pages of evidence in the court record that Jones Health Defense put in, and they've ruined the damage. Go make your criminal complaints, go to your sheriff's office, go to your police office. We have them available, are draft templates on five Small Stones, the number fivesmallstones.com. Vaxchoice has them. Start taking charge yourselves as part of that preparation we're talking about, Seth.
• 44:24
  Whether it's the skill sets, whether it's food, thank you very kindly, all of these things are preparatory. Why do I why am I pushing this? Because at some point, when you actually recognize that it is these things causing all the damage, you have the ability to defend yourself with equal and opposite force. If this is killing you, you have the right to stop that. If you had a criminal complaint on file, and you told the police, Hey, this is hurting me, you got to stop this, and they didn't do it, that gives you a pretty good reason to solve the problem yourself, doesn't it?
• 44:56
  So again, that's part of this whole preparatory network, and I keep telling people, I hope they listen, I would rather be judged by 12 in a jury box than carried by six in a casket. Judged by 12 rather than carried by six. That's my motto. So, I hope that all makes sense to you.
• 45:14
  Seth Holehouse: It does. So, basically, I'm on a lot of the email threads with you. I've and so I see a lot of the conversations happening between really a lot of the the big guests that are on different podcasts just happen to me on these email threads, talking behind the scenes about all this stuff. And so I'm seeing similar information coming out as well. And you private access to a lot more beyond that of people that were on that time, October 4, measuring, the signals and that they had that they actually physically measured with devices that measure radiation EMF.
• 45:45
  Todd Callender: Thousands of birds fell out of the sky all at the same time. How did that happen?
• 45:50
  Robert Kiyosaki: Yes. Yeah, at
• 45:51
  Seth Holehouse: that exact time. Because I think that there's a lot of people that they, they see this event happen, they get the they get the signal on their cell phone, they look around, they say, Okay, I'm still alive. And it was all fear porn, right? And they move on from it. Whereas I just think that that's the wrong way to approach that.
• 46:09
  And it makes much more sense that yeah, that was the first time they turned the Death Star on to test and see, okay, can it follow? Yes, right.
• 46:15
  Todd Callender: All at the same time. Yeah, exactly right. And so let's remind ourselves, you know, because I am now finally seeing the kind of midstream commercial media going, you know, and including some politicians in Australia and The UK going, you know, those shots weren't regulated. You know, those shots sure have caused a lot of damage. You know, our government was actually the ones behind that.
• 46:38
  They're finally getting to understand that humanity has been under an attack, that it is our governments as an apparatus of the owners that are trying to kill us. Your government isn't here to help you, your government is here to kill you. And it's not one government, it's all of them. And it's not the people in the government per se, it's the apparatus itself. It's the militarization of public health.
• 47:02
  And now that's going to start extending into something they call One Health. It's a global effort. Again, how to kill people? Well, you cut off the food supply. If you kill the food supply, you kill humanity.
• 47:14
  It's just another vector of death, and it is international. It is global. So embrace the reality of the situation, because if you and your family want to survive it, you better study up and pay attention.
• 47:27
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 47:47
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis, a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 48:20
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
• 48:40
  This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
• 49:10
  They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etcetera. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
• 49:34
  Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed, those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
• 50:10
  So I want to go into that now because we have exchanged some emails ahead of the show about these different topics and whatever, again, whenever I see these instances where 95% of the media, social media conversation is about one topic, it's always the it's the age old question of, okay, what are they distracting us from? I'm not saying that this is just some distraction and that they they did this whole attack and everything just to distract us. But what I'm saying is that there's things moving in tandem, and they might be planning certain events or certain activities during these times when they know that that story would just disappear when it's dropped into the ocean of social media.
• 50:53
  Todd Callender: Exactly right.
• 50:54
  Seth Holehouse: With what you were talking about with the zoonotic, and I'll just let you get an exact seems like it's a very significant story that needs to be discussed right now.
• 51:04
  Todd Callender: It is. My Lord, is it? So, as you know, and a lot of people listening know, we've got quite a research team that is led by the wondrous Lisa, she's a superstar. And she researches all the time. That's all she does literally.
• 51:20
  And we started seeing that a lot of the pathogens that were being created by our government, its agents, institutions, University of North Carolina, at all, amongst others, Wuhan, that these diseases, these pathogens that were being created first to make people sick, secondarily to provide the cure vaccines, were full of zoonotic materials. So in particular, glycoproteins and other types of ingredients coming from poisonous insects. And as the things intersect, what you come to find is that the genetic engineering is now at the base level. It's the very beginning of the food supply, meaning what animals, what plants are livestock eating and ingesting and becoming genetically modified with onto the actual livestock themselves receiving mRNA shots that are full of chimeric diseases, chimeric pathogens, meaning part bacterial, viral, part animal, humanized, humanized mice, humanized pigs, they all exist. It's a freak show genetic engineering, all of which is designed to change our genomes from what God created into something synthetic.
• 52:38
  Synthetic ones being owned by the patent holders, and the ones created by God not. Free, enjoying human rights, and theoretically constitutional rights as well. But what has happened now is they've made a jump, causing these diseases such that if it makes a pig sick, it'll make a human sick. They culled a billion chickens last year, why? Because they were worried the bird flu might pass over zoonotic meaning to humans as well.
• 53:06
  And now the big push is watch out for tuberculosis coming out of those cows. There's people coming across the border in The United States, they have tuberculosis. So, you know, it's rational to believe that cows will also get tuberculosis. Never before has this happened in the history of humanity or this earth, as long as we've written it down. Animals get sick with animal diseases, people get sick with people diseases, until the Chinese introduced pangolins.
• 53:30
  You know, that coronavirus had to come from pangolins, and it had to come from some kind of bat. What a bunch of nonsense. We found all of the scientific papers where these things were created, they took the little parts from insects and plants, and they made it possible through genetic engineering to make these diseases skip from animals into humans and from humans into animals. And this gives a wonderful pretext for two things. Number one, how to genetically modify people through the food supply, and number two, how to cut off the food supply, complete with something we've been watching very carefully for a while.
• 54:04
  It's called M Cherry, it's a glycoprotein. Why is it important? Because it's an opson. Opson's are used for optogenetics. That means that frequencies of light can turn these things on and off.
• 54:16
  You might remember that one hundred and fifty Koreans fell dead at a festival, kids down, was a rap concert in Texas, I recall, fell over dead. These optogenetics options are they respond to light in such a way that will turn your heart on and off, right? And this is what we have found in the food supply. They're doing this to cattle. How long ago was it in Kansas, seven thousand cattle fell over there?
• 54:40
  Right? What light ray does this? Apparently it's the blue light. Laser blue lights have this effect on options. You know, what did we see in Maui?
• 54:50
  What are we seeing all around us with these filled blue lights going up in everybody's street lamps? All of it is a plan, all of it is coming together, all of it is here, that is what they are hiding. Whether they are trying to kill us by virtue of five gs, or optogenetics, or cutting off the food supply, they share one commonality: the extinction of our species. We are under attack, and yet we are looking to government for answers. We are going, well, what if Lindsey Graham were to change around, or maybe if we put Mr.
• 55:21
  Trump into the speaker's seat, what part do we not understand? We're looking for remedies from the people and the apparatus trying to kill us. How does that make any sense?
• 55:34
  Seth Holehouse: Well, at least we have the USDA, right? So, the USDA, they've launched the
• 55:39
  Todd Callender: They're the ones that are part of it, the one in health zoonotic disease prioritization. Now, you have a merger. It's called ZDP. And so now you got the USDA working in conjunction with the CDC, and FDA and other governments. Believe it or not, it includes public health apparatus, the Department of Defense, to now track zoonotic diseases.
• 56:05
  At the end of the day, what they're going to do with this, through this new agency being created, I believe it's under HHS, it's a culmination, it's amalgamation of different agencies, representatives into this new, you know, all powerful One Health that is going to take care of us from stem to stern, from birth till death, including our food supply and the bagillion vaccines it wants to have. All of this is planned for the same reasons that they have created public health as the means by which they remove all rights. Human, constitutional, and otherwise. Do you have a right to eat food? No.
• 56:43
  Do you have a right to water? No, they're cutting off the water supply too. What rights do you have? And the answer to that question is you have zero, because what they've done is they've made you into the weapon. They have now created the war on viruses, right?
• 56:58
  Where the war on terror wasn't enough by itself. You couldn't see that and you couldn't describe it. Try to describe and see a virus. That's the new war. In all cases, it ends the same way.
• 57:11
  Seth Holehouse: And so are you seeing, so that first article that we I pulled up, I think I'm pull up again, this was the from 2016, right? USDA launching this one stop shop for its quote one health approach to zoonotics. And whenever you see that, that just all kinds of red flags go off. But so that was, you know, almost, you know, close to a decade ago that they've kicked this thing off, what, eight years or
• 57:38
  Todd Callender: That's right.
• 57:38
  Seth Holehouse: You know, seven years. And so what are you seeing in terms of does this tie into the Marburg pandemic? Does this tie into any other data that's coming out about what's happening right now as we head into the fallwinter season?
• 57:57
  Todd Callender: Yes, it does. It's the exact same mRNA, and Lisa dug all this stuff, it does include the same glycoproteins from Marburg, from Ebola, from viral hemorrhagic fevers enteralia, meaning among other ones. It's all included in there. So now you theoretically have cows falling over dead from barber, bleeding out their eyes or their ears, whatever the case may be, watch out, because that barbered would jump. So it's an excuse, right?
• 58:32
  If you, for instance, start showing symptoms of barbered, your government has already reserved onto itself the right to stick you in a quarantine and stick experimental shots in your arm. Imagine if those are the rights that you enjoy, which is done, what rights do we have to protect our livestock, our food? And the answer is none. The USDA is now mandating farmers and ranchers, you've got to provide these shots. There's a list of vaccines.
• 58:58
  You've got to give your animals now if you're going to sell them commercially. So this is all the more reason why people have got to grow your own, grow your own food supply. Because if you're taking your food supply from what they call the protein business, the animal protein business, you're getting these same things into you, right? MRNA full of every pathogen you can imagine. And that's what Lisa and Doug have, and we provided the papers, I hope you'll post them, they're all there, and I want people to read through them for yourself.
• 59:31
  But understand that all of this is manufactured, of this is designed for one end goal, and that is your destruction.
• 59:41
  Seth Holehouse: And this is right here what she found right in terms of looking at what was contained in those, this is talking about the certain zoonotic, that's right. Diseases, plague, tularemia, anthrax, brucellosis, I mean, this is, you know, rat bite fever. So what does this mean right here? Did they discover this is what's being contained within these?
• 1:00:06
  Todd Callender: Yeah, those are the components. Those are the base components and features of genetic modification that they put into the mRNA. So remember these little lipid nanoparticles are now part of the vaccine apparatus. They're little bombers, they take proteins from those very same diseases and they stick them into these lipid nanoparticles, they're delivered into the animal, and those lipid nanoparticles go into the cells, into the nucleus of the cells, they release their contents and they begin the genetic modification process To do what? For instance, produce these spike proteins or other proteins like them.
• 1:00:44
  Prions, right? When you are producing these malformed proteins, they're improperly full of, they're called prions. The prions cause a variety of diseases, including mad cow disease. So the answer to your question is, they are using those very diseases, the proteins, the pathogenic parts of them, to genetically modify animals into becoming pathogen producers. That's what's happening.
• 1:01:09
  And for that reason, it gives the pretext, well, these are sick animals, I guess we're going to have to cull them all, a billion chickens. Do remember what happened to the price of eggs when they culled a billion chickens? What's
• 1:01:21
  Seth Holehouse: going
• 1:01:21
  Todd Callender: to happen when they cold, you know, thousands or millions of cows, or whatever else, pigs or sheep, or any other protein source? Right? And if they allow them to continue just long enough, those animals will produce pathogens, zoonotic ones, that skip from animal to human. And what's really fascinating about this, please know that SARS CoV-one and CoV-two were man made. As you read through these scientific papers, what you find is the scientists say these are the ideal ways for us to make these diseases contagious.
• 1:01:57
  They brag about it. Why? Because it's respiratory. So it makes them spread faster. Do cows breed?
• 1:02:05
  Yeah. They should do pigs? Yeah, they breed too. So, it's another means by which they can spread disease. Again, the one commonality in all of this is how to cause our death, our extinction.
• 1:02:18
  Seth Holehouse: And so you so basically piecing this together, even what we just witnessed with the the the emergency broadcast that was sent everywhere and the spikes in radiation, that could be something that would be potentially in the future not even used on humans, but if all the livestock because I think everyone's talking about, you know, the discussion about the vaccines in our food, you know, most of the narrative is okay, they're to use vaccine. But what you're putting forth here is that what that also does is that vaccine given to the animal population that is feeding us becomes through the use of EMS and radiation that they can then cause disease within the animal supply, which then can allow them, give them the foundation to come, you know, come forth and say, Well, we now have to call 30,000,000 cows because we've had an outbreak of tuberculosis that they caused by putting the vaccine with that within it and using a certain signal to activate that. And if you then take a step back and look at the discussion about eat, you know, eating the bugs, and all the attacks that have been on protein as they want to make us, you know, feed us a diet of bugs and synthetic meat, which they can absolutely introduce anything they want to in synthetic meat, that this becomes the perfect pretext.
• 1:03:45
  So what you're seeing with this is another one of these kill vectors, in addition to potentially causing viruses within human beings, this gives them an excuse to really create a manufactured famine and force people to their knees to beg for the government's help.
• 1:04:04
  Todd Callender: Absolutely, positively. And, you know, has this happened before? Yes. Throughout history, this has happened before. Like I said, they just killed a billion chickens that already had effect.
• 1:04:17
  China before that, I think it was hundreds of millions of pigs. That has an effect on the economy, but you know, starvation was the tool of the communists, the Bolsheviks. Well, who's running our government now? The very same Bolsheviks, that starvation is their calling card. You make people weak and sick and unable to fight.
• 1:04:39
  It goes back to, you know, does it really matter if your country is well armed if people are too sick to use their arms? So the answer is no. When you look at our military, I've got lots of clients still in the military, some of them are medical doctors, and they're telling me, look, the troops can't show up to full duty. Our force strength is less than 50%. Why?
• 1:05:00
  Because everybody's too damn sick. So what good is an army, a military, if nobody can fight? And the answer is none. While we have unvaccinated, I hate that term, vaccinated, we have unvaccinated people walking across the border. They're fine and they're healthy.
• 1:05:15
  They don't have any issues, can they fight? You're damn right they can fight, and they will. That's the pretext we're being set up for. So, going back to your preparatory, your advice, your speech, so to speak, was a really good one, an important one. It means everything, especially taking control of your own food supply and your water supply.
• 1:05:35
  Watch out, because when they say watch the water, that's coming too. The water supply is being cut off at the same time. The EPA regulations make it illegal for you to even catch your own rainwater. If they want to turn off your well, they'll turn off your well. There's nothing you can do about it.
• 1:05:50
  So it's here, right? Again, the one commonality is how do we kill more people? Killing 7,000,000,000 people is those small feet. So ideally, they'll have us do it for them.
• 1:06:03
  Seth Holehouse: It's interesting because one of my guests I have on somewhat often is a guy named Jeff Nyquist, and he's really an expert on communism and a lot of war. And at one point, we were having some discussions about the potential for a kinetic invasion by China. And a lot of people in the audience were saying there's no way China would ever invade America. We have too many guns. And Jeff made a really, really important point.
• 1:06:27
  Okay, and I'll paraphrase it my own way. Let's say that every single household in America has 10 guns. How many households in America can also grow their own food and have more than a few weeks worth of food supply? This exactly he said, he goes, look, if China cuts off our food supply, whether through a grid down attack or whatever, it doesn't matter how many guns you have, if the entire population can't feed themselves from their own skills from their own land, they're gonna, they're gonna die starving to death. So they'll cut the food supply off, come in a month later, and you've only got a third of the population left because most Americans actually don't know how to feed themselves.
• 1:07:04
  They don't know how to raise chickens, don't know how to, how to process food, maybe they can grow vegetables, they can't can vegetables. Their grandmother knew how to can vegetables, they lost that information, they didn't learn it because it was always so easy to go to the supermarket. So it just, it's a really important point, I'm glad that you're also touching on it.
• 1:07:20
  Todd Callender: It is an important point and it goes back to the skills when you're being a prepper, when you're preparing for the worst, sharpen your skills, learn how to can. It's not particularly hard to do, by the way. And like you said, learn how to grow. People don't even know how to do that, they think it's just sticking a seed in the ground and waiting. There's a lot more to it than that, folks.
• 1:07:40
  And it takes time. You can't plant something and plan on harvesting it next week. So our forefathers planned seasons they planned a year or more in advance, like several years, crop rotation. Those are skills that we forgot, we need to learn them again. And you're absolutely right.
• 1:07:57
  My friend, Colonel Peters, I'm sorry, Peter Chambers, Doctor. Peter Chambers, he just said on another interview that he's down there in the morrow, he's watching these people come across, and he said, Our infrastructure is not guarded. We are a soft target, taking out the electrical supply is a joke. It's very easy, it can happen immediately, anywhere and everywhere at the same time. If Americans go without power, they're not going to be able to feed themselves, they're not going be able to do anything, they'll be paralyzed.
• 1:08:26
  So that's how easy all of this can start. Just as you said, cut off the power supply, I don't think it'll even take a month. If memory serves, the DOD did a study and suggested that nine days without food would cause people to go towards cannibalism.
• 1:08:40
  Seth Holehouse: I also saw a study that was done, think it was by the DOD or the CIA, that their estimation was that if there's a nationwide grid down event, that after twelve months only ten percent of the population would still be living. With most people dying from starvation, murder, you know, to get food but also from infection diseases, which again goes back to water supply, stocking up, you know, antibiotics, right? In that kind of situation, having antibiotics which have along, you know, they're shelf stable, the dried powders could be significant. So, so it's been a I mean, so I think that we've now covered and we've hit from many angles.
• 1:09:22
  Todd Callender: But wait, there's more.
• 1:09:24
  Seth Holehouse: Okay, what's
• 1:09:25
  Todd Callender: Go ahead. Well, no. What I wanted to say, sorry, the last, the pace de resistance, the thing I just couldn't even believe earlier than I said to you, which is now our government is so desperate for us to take their poison shots for convincing hairstylists, paying them $4,000 to convince us to take their poison. I just have, we've got to show people. A lovely therapist in New Mexico sent this to me, you know, scratching her head, you can't believe this is true, but it is true.
• 1:09:56
  It's right there. We actually have a government program now for your hairstylist to talk you into taking shots, to get over vaccine hesitancy.
• 1:10:05
  Seth Holehouse: And I
• 1:10:05
  Todd Callender: can't tell if it's four thousand once or 4,000 a week. They go through a training program to do this. This is how desperate they are to cause us to to kill ourselves or to die one way or another.
• 1:10:18
  Seth Holehouse: Incredible. I believe And so that that brings us to the final thing I want to get into is I mean, so we've now established it through multiple different ways that there is a an elite group of people that have a lot of control that want to kill most people on this world and I have to smile when I talk about it because otherwise it's too darn scary and dark. But there's a flip side to it that they're failing and that's what I want to end the conversation with is that not just we're all screwed and it's doom and gloom and you're gonna be eating your uncle in two weeks. I mean, it's like, want to talk about the reality of it, which is that, that human beings have souls, were created by God and we have this amazing, these amazing qualities to us and we have this discernment that's there and that there's a lot of people that aren't going along with this agenda and that agenda is failing. And so I want to I want to hear your thoughts on that because that's an important part.
• 1:11:20
  Todd Callender: It's the best part. It's the best part that, you know, we may be very well preaching to the choir, people who are watching this going, Yep, thought about that one. Yep, did that, taken it back. Yep, we're there. Anything I miss?
• 1:11:31
  Look, when the government has to pay hairdressers to become your psychotherapist, to become your analyst, and explain to you that vaccine hesitancy is a bad thing, know, when they are that desperate, we're winning this thing. People are opting out. People are getting the word. People are understanding they're taking that step for themselves, protecting their families. Nobody is going back for more shots.
• 1:11:56
  You know, those that, you know, three times boosted, well, they're probably already dead anyway. So the remnants, what is left, and that's a whole lot of us, have finally caught on. And that's why I think we're not seeing the same kind of response out of Israel that they are hoping for. I think that's why Vladimir Putin at all have not been tricked into a nuclear exchange. Humanity is opting out of the paradigm.
• 1:12:18
  We've got a ways to go, Seth, we really do. But people are finally starting to understand the truth, and that's the key to this thing. That's why, you know, we named our video conferencing platform and thought it was becoming Truth Hub because it's this, it's us having this exchange and others doing the same talking to each other without fear. Right? The Bible says don't fear two fifty times or more.
• 1:12:44
  That's the key. Right? It's faith over fear, Doctor. Vliet says, and I know you've got that in your soul, we're sitting here talking and kind of chuckling because of that. So that's the good news, Seth, is is we are.
• 1:12:56
  We're we're actually winning this thing.
• 1:12:58
  Seth Holehouse: And and, I mean, an interesting indicator of that is that what you're you're saying is that people are seeing through it fundamentally. And when I go to Twitter, right, so let's let's go back to 09:11. When, you know, 09:11, when that happened, the I would probably guess that 99% of people were getting their their primary news through newspaper, television, radio. You didn't have you know, at that time, the internet was still in its infancy, you know, in terms of the public adoption, maybe msn.com or aol.com on the homepage, saw some But so at that time, where was the other discussion about what really happened? And I think that the vast, vast, vast majority of Americans just bought it hook line sinker.
• 1:13:44
  That these these terrorists, these scary terrorists got on these planes, they hijacked them and they crashed into the buildings and our government's completely innocent and had no involvement in it and Obama, Bin Laden was not a CIA asset. They didn't have any clue. But when I look at what's happening now, so we talked about how on Twitter as an example, that now Twitter is being flooded with this very gruesome imagery of what's happening. And you can see there's this very strong reaction from a lot of people which says, okay, that's that's in a very effective psychological operation to elicit that kind of response. But on the flip side, I'm seeing almost just as many tweets of people saying exactly what you and I are talking about.
• 1:14:28
  They're saying hold on, the baby's story doesn't add up. Now they're backtracking from that. They're so as the deep state is attempting to write history, we're rewriting it simultaneously, and they're losing control of that. And that's even though it's still happening over there, I that's that's encouraging to me that there's a lot of people that are not just going along with it and rushing to follow the latest Yeah,
• 1:14:55
  Todd Callender: it is. It's heartwarming as well to see people taking a step back and remembering, you know, again, that these are fellow humans, these are families one way or another, we're all related, and I do see a lot of that. People changing their views from, you know, stay safe to God bless, for example, the way that they greet each other, the way that they wish each other well, I see an enormous change in that over the last year. And it's really, I would say, it's inspiring to me. It really truly is.
• 1:15:31
  Seth Holehouse: It is, it is. And that's the thing is it's funny because I interviewed Doctor. Carrie Madae recently.
• 1:15:38
  Todd Callender: Oh, yes. Yes. Who's a
• 1:15:40
  Seth Holehouse: good friend. And she's just wonderful and, and she, know, she, it was funny because she made a really good point because similarly that discussion was more about the poisoning of people, right? Because she does a lot of detoxing and we start getting into the chemtrails and our water supply and our food supply, it's very apparent that we're being poisoned and the increase in cancer and autism and all that. But but which is dark and depressing. She made a really good point.
• 1:16:03
  She goes, look, now that you're aware of how much they're poisoning us, the miracle is that we're still standing. We're still here. We're still here. We're like the cockroaches that won't die. They keep spraying us with the rain.
• 1:16:17
  We keep coming back. Well,
• 1:16:21
  Todd Callender: and there is something to that, by the way. You know, it used to be when I was a kid growing up, that only the cockroaches would survive the radiation. But even the radiation story seems to be a hoax. You look at Fukushima, and I've got to tell you, I grew up near a place called Rocky Flats, where they made the nuclear triggers for the weapons. And, you know, as a little kid, my neighbors actually, you know, they would handle plutonium bare handed.
• 1:16:48
  And then all these other safety protocols started coming into play. The point of which is that even radiation at different levels is not quite as bad as they say it is. People from Nagasaki and Hiroshima, most of those people actually didn't die from radiation poisoning, at least not that kind. So, yeah, the answer is that like the cockroaches, we're still here, we're still surviving, we're still we're to out their best efforts.
• 1:17:19
  Seth Holehouse: So, as we finish up here, I want to actually have you say a few things about KloutHUB. Because this is something that you know you're very involved with. And I'll pull it up really quick that and I think that look after after Parler went down, right after the election, a lot of people went to the Clout Hub. There's a lot of censorship happening. Twitter's opened up and you know, so it seems like everything is free and fair again, but I don't think that we should be so trusting of these big platforms that are still controlled.
• 1:17:52
  So tell us a little bit about CloutHub. And I'll also just say as a caveat that I'm gonna start working on getting the live stream set up so that people can also watch these shows on CloutHub where I know, look, maybe Rumble, it's a public company. Maybe it pulls down and starts Right? I know that you've had some issues on there, right? With SGT reports.
• 1:18:15
  So this is a very safe place and I encourage all the people that are watching here. And I'll put my link in the description and I have been very active on going to be but to get their profiles set up, get an account set up because it's like you're I'm talking to the guy that's responsible for the lack of solution the platform will ever have. So tell us a little bit about it, Todd.
• 1:18:35
  Todd Callender: So our group acquired the majority of the company about, I guess it's almost seven months ago now. And Jeff Brain, who started suffered a horrible stroke, sadly, he's since passed, but his vision was exactly what you described, was a platform where there was no censorship. People could come together and have a marketplace of ideas, and that's really what first drew people there. We're carrying on that tradition. I have been censored on Rumble, I've been censored on Bitchute, ostensibly on Twitter, and certainly on Facebook amongst others, that's just me, little old me.
• 1:19:11
  A lot of people are, the messaging as you described is what's being used as part of a weaponry against us. So at CloudHub, I'm the CEO and it is my personal commitment to you that we will not censor, we don't allow unethical or moral or illegal conduct, there's no gambling, there's no court, but when it comes to people's ideas, come and bring them, because that's what we want. We get to the best result by speaking the truth and understanding the truth. And as part of that process, we are now changing all of what we call truth. We trademark the name, we're building the brand.
• 1:19:45
  What is that? It's multilingual, we're changing the entire platform to be available in every spoken language on this planet. Right now, if you want to have this video conference, we could do that in any language you want to the truth hub. Right now, also when we post your video, this video, we're going to make it available in nine different languages. So if you go to CloudHub and you want to watch this in Russian or Japanese or Chinese or whatever, you'll have the ability to do that.
• 1:20:09
  Why? Because we want to spread the truth. It doesn't cost anything. We redid our privacy policy and what it effectively says is don't tell us who you are, I don't want to know. I don't care.
• 1:20:19
  What I care is that you're getting the information, you're sharing the information and it's the truth. That's all that matters to us. We want the marketplace of ideas available to all, no matter what the language is. Get to the truth, bypass the commercial media and governments because they are lying to you to kill you. We are trying to educate you, help you find the truth so that humanity can survive.
• 1:20:42
  It's really that simple. So thank you very kindly for this.
• 1:20:45
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, of course. And it just it seems like our conversations usually spread far and wide. So I want to make sure that every time we talk that we at least take a little, even a twenty second time out just to talk about CloutHub because if every interview can get a couple hundred more people signing up and using the platform, then we can play a positive role and grow that community.
• 1:21:09
  Todd Callender: It is because it's about spreading the word, spreading the truth, letting people come together and bypass all of this nonsense designed to injure us and make us sad. There, you know, there's happiness, there's joy and truth as well, Seth. It's simple. Come register. I don't care what your details are.
• 1:21:30
  Just give us an email address and a username. That's all we want from you. And come and find the truth. Come and share the truth as well. Thank you for doing that.
• 1:21:39
  Really appreciate that.
• 1:21:40
  Seth Holehouse: Just want confirm that you're not secretly owned by BlackRock, are you?
• 1:21:44
  Todd Callender: No, it's a private organization. We've got about 105 shareholders, most all of them are American. That's it. It's private. We're all in it for the same reason.
• 1:21:54
  There is no intention or desire to sell out to any big organization or anything. We are all in this to save humanity. We are all in this to spread the word spread truth.
• 1:22:05
  Seth Holehouse: Well, that's where that's where you and I align the most strongly. Todd, thanks I thoroughly enjoy these discussions and I thank you for taking time out of your day to come on and have this discussion with myself so our audience can participate.
• 1:22:21
  Todd Callender: Always a pleasure. So the the best part is I get to hang with my pals if you're one of them. So God bless you, and thank you for that.
• 1:22:27
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. Thank you, Todd.