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05/16/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Patrick Morrisey, Sam Sommerville, Brad McElhinny · The Dave Allen Show

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Coming up on the show, we're gonna get a little conversation on barbecue,
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one of my favorite subjects. Charlie West Barbecue Fest is happening this Saturday.
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It had at Riverfront Park in Charleston, and we're going to talk to
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one of their folks about that. Coming up, also, Brad mcahanney will
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be here as well. Lots of talk about with Brad, including some not
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so flattering news from the governor's financial situation and now he and his family firing
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back against the bank that has been there their right hand bankers. I guess
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you would say for many, many years. Brad's got that story covering up
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a little bit later on, but I want to welcome into the show Attorney
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Earl Patrick Morrissey, Good morning, Sarah. How are you. I am
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doing well. Good morning to you. Thank you for being here with us,
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Sir. I do appreciate it, and I wanted to talk to several
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we'll talk to you about several things we're gonna get and of course to your
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bid for governor a little bit later on. So a lot of things I
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want to I want to talk to you about. But before we get to
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that run for governor, there's a couple of other things that I wanted to
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mention. This settlement that your office has with Kroger. It's a sixty eight
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million dollar deal and you've already got Walgreen's CVS and write Aid on board.
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Kroger just the latest to be added to the list. Give us a story
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on this or how did this whole thing come about? Absolutely so, as
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many people know, we've been working to bring accountability to the pharmaceutical supply channel
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for many years. And in fact, you might remember when people were critical
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because they wanted more to happen, or they suggest that I should accept the
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earlier national elements, and I held out for West Virginia, we doubled the
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national settlements and now we've been able to bring in the gross amounts probably going
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to exceed one billion dollars, and this particular settlement is a sixty eight million
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a lot of it frontloaded, which is really important. And now the resources
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will go in as per the recent law that passed, which is it affirms
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the West Virginia First Memorandum of Understanding and not to split between the counties the
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cities, and also the private foundation that is being created. And the real
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value on that is to target the resources to those who need it most,
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to have needs assessments done throughout the entire state, and to make sure we're
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attacking this problem from a supply, a demand, and an educational perspective.
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And Dave, especially with the massive influx of fetnol coming in, this is
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going to be sorely needed because fetnol is wrecking so many lives, killing so
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many people in West Virginia. I think it's critical finally have a plan to
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attack that here in the state and then also to make sure that that plan
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is funded. That's the first time that's ever happened. So this suttiment is
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one part of a multi part piece. This also means that this phase of
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the litigation is concluded from our perspective, and that's significant. Doesn't mean there
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won't be future litigation. It just means that this round with all of these
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entities, we've been able to reach agreements with. So that's obviously significant development
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for the state. I want to talk about that foundation for a moment,
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and you alluded to it there. The governor signed a bill that would create
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that West Virginia First Foundation, and you touched on it a little bit there,
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sir, But explain to us again exactly what it is and how it
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will be used and again I know you touched on it just a little bit.
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How exactly will cities and counties benefit from this? Absolutely? So,
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first of all, cities and counties are going to be getting direct resources,
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So is their number one ask in the negotiations, and so of every net
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dollar that comes in, twenty four and a half percent go directly to the
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counties and cities and they can use that for addressing the opioid and the fetmoal
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mass that we have. And that's really up to them and they wanted and
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that was their top negotiate item and they're getting a lot of resources directly.
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The second piece, which is probably most relevant for the folks across the state
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is this foundation that's getting created. That's going to be an organization. It's
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private. It's set up with appointments from six people within the regions of West
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Virginia. So the local communities the counties are going to come together. They're
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actually going to have to have an election process to name the board members who
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will serve on this foundation. And then in addition, the governor will pick
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five members of the board and that's significant, and so there'll be eleven people
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on this board. And what they will be doing is they will obviously be
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managing the resources. They'll very likely start with a needs assessment across West Virginia
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to determine the specific needs. Some areas have different needs than other areas,
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and then they will establish the process by which applications will come in from across
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the state. It could be private sector applications, it could come from certain
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communities, and then they'll people will make requests, but that the decisions get
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made based on the needs assessment and the board makes those decisions. So it's
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really an important process because this is how a lot of the needs of the
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opioid and the feedmal epidemics are going to get addressed. Nine fifteen. We're
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talking to Attorney General Patrick Morrissey here on five eighty five ety lie presumed in
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four four zero one zero one, mister ag. Just about everybody who represents
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West Virginia being in Washington, or those who represent their individual areas and the
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counties and the districts, and everybody had something to say about the EPA's new
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proposed rules on power plans. Even your old nemesis, Sir Senator Mansions book
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against it. You know it must be bad when you and Joe Mansion come
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to the same conclusion talk about it. Well. As many people know,
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we've spent now nine ten years of fighting off these different proposals, and in
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fact, last June, we had a significant victory on these similar issues at
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the US Supreme Court where they ruled that the old Obama A power plan was
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actually not permissible under the Clean Air Act, and a significant victory for West
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Virginia, our jobs, our way of life, Unfortunately, looks like the
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Biden administration is trying to dust everything off again and go back to the drawing
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board, and we're seeing different parts of the clean power plant kind of get
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revisited. So they're putting lipstick on the pig, and they're trying to once
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again target West Virginia and really get rid of coal. And so we've been
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out in front leading this very effort. I applaud anyone who wants to help
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in our effort to try to block this, because it really matters from a
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job's perspective. It matters in terms of how much people pay us the power
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bills. This is an orageous proposal, and I think that it's going to
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suffer the same fate that the other one did. But we're going to have
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to get to work. We're actually still unpacking the regulation, and we know
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that what they're trying to do by suggesting that immediately or if in a very
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short period of time people are going to be moving over to carbon capture sequestration
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or to the green hydrogen, this is not real. This stick in any
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way, and I think that West Virginia would be hurt very badly if this
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ever were in effect. So it's my goal to try to prevent that from
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happening, and obviously welcome everyone's help to try to continue to fight this fact.
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You, sir, I currently hold the office of Attorney General. You
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will not be seeking at the term as you've opted instead and run from governor.
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Two people though, want your current job at least too that we know
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of right now. A couple of state Senators Mike Stewart and Ryan Weld,
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have taken shots at each other already, mainly on this show. Don't want
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to put you in a bad position, sir, but if you've been following
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this or any thoughts on that race, look, I think campaigns will always
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occur, and they'll be vigorous debate between the two candidates right now, and
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perhaps even more people will come through. But you know, right now,
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I'm focusing on doing my gay job as attorney General. I think one of
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the things that they said that they agreed with is that they thought that we
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were doing a really good job, and I'm I'm grateful for that right because
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I think folks know I'm the only proven conservative with the record of really moving
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the needle on huge issues and challenges based in West Virginia, so being ready
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for day one as governor came from all the terrific work we've done is ag
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So I think that that's a part of what they're talking about. And you
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know, obviously I'm always hopeful to people stick to the issues and they focus
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on the reasons why they want to have the job. So I'm not going
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to get in the middle of the race right now, but I think that
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you know, there's some fine people running and West Virginia my expectation is going
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to have another strong attorney general in the future. Let's lose by talking about
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the governor's office. There is polling out so far and again way early.
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It's early, but it's looking pretty good for your campaign. In fact,
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I was talking to a leading Republican the other day who gave me this quote,
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The race is Patrick Morrissey's to your thoughts. Look, I think what
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you're seeing right now is a reflection of the fact that we've taken on all
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the big challenges. We've taken on the political elites, and we've been able
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to be so aggressive to protect West Virginia, our jobs, our way of
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life. We've fought for educational attainment by winning the hope scholarship case or in
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the middle of defending charter schools. Right now, when you're looking at the
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person who is most qualified to lead on day one, you have to look
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at someone who's been around the block a little bit, and we've been able
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to win on these huge issues. So I think that's what voters are seeing.
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And obviously I'm not here to critique others right now. I think that
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there'll be some other fine people. There may even be fine ideas, but
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there's no one else with the qualifications and the records that we have, and
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I think that's what you're seeing in the early polling, and my expectation is
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that's going to continue. But we'll take nothing for granted. We're gonna four
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hard every day. I'm going to continue to do my gay job. We
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were just talking about those issues here, and I think by continuing to do
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really good work as Attorney General, people will continue to see there's really no
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contest in terms of the qualifications and the record compared to everyone in the field.
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Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Patrick Morrissey, I appreciate as always you being
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here, sir. We'll talk soon. Thanks a lot. Hey, thanks
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all agree on this crazy world, and that is barbecue. Coming to Charleston
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this weekend Hadad Riverfront Park is the Charlie West Barbecue Fest. Starts at two
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o'clock on Saturday. Here to talk about it at Sam Summerville. Sam,
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good morning, How are you more? And Dave doing well? How how
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are you? I'm doing fine. Thank you for stopping about. Is it
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too early to talk barbecue? It's never too early, tokarbe never too early
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to talk about barbecue. I just wanted to tell you about what's going to
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be happy in this weekend on the Charleston down Hadad Riverfront Park on the Boulevard,
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We've got the sixth annual Charlie West Barbecue Fest. It starts at two
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o'clock on Saturday afternoon, but we'll be there Friday night. We're gonna have
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commercial vendors, barbecue folks, will have backyard barbecue folks. Back Yard folks
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will be coming in Friday night. They'll be cooking all night, be getting
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prepared for Saturday. Commercial vendors will be coming in Saturday, but we started
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at two o'clock and we run from two o'clock to eight pm on Saturday the
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same Let's talk about your background and all this. How did you get involved
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in this and what do you do? Okay, I'm I'm president of the
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board of directors of the Bobardett Center and the we offer after school programming on
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Charleston's West Side. We've been doing that. This is our twenty fifth year,
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and I didn't realize that to I started preparing for this to meet with
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you to time flies that it does. Time flies. This is our twenty
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fifth year of providing after school programming on Charleston West Side for children there and
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services to the children and their families. So now what is the time with
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the Bobaradet Center and the barbecue PESTI Well, we started this, as I
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mentioned, this our sixth annual one. We started this as our annual fundraiser
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they have had and we've been doing that now for well we took a break
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during COVID, of course, but this is our sixth one and so we
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wanted to have this barbecue fast. It was the brainchild of Dave Minser or
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vice president and Dave heads this up for us, and we wanted to do
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that to get the name of the Bob Bardette Center out, but also to
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do something to raise money, of course, and to have an event that
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families and their families can come down and take some great barbecue and listen to
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some live music and then have a great day. And in West Virginia,
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nothing brings people together like good food, whether it's barbecue or any other kind.
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Let's talk about the Bob Bardette Center for a moment. And I am
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aware of it because of this job and because of the interviews I've done over
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the past. But for those that may not be familiar with it, how
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did the whole thing come about? As far as the Bob Bardette Center,
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And you said it had been around for a number of years, and talk
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about some of the success stories that you've seen there through the program. Well,
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it's started, I said, twenty five years ago a church on the
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west side, Emmanuel Baptist Church. We started started the center, set up
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a separate organization for that. We initially served students from this elementary school right
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across across the street from the church, and then it grew from there and
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we now serve about one hundred and twenty students today K through fifth grades at
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four different locations, and we provide after school programming to give the kids a
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safe place to come and there's no charge to the parents. Children are able
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to come there. We serve him a meal when they arrive, we give
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him a snack before they leave. We have certified tutors that help them with
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their homework. We have computer labs, recreation and all kinds of things for
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them. And the ballpark. Figure, how many kids do you serve through
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there? About one hundred and twenty a day, about one hundred and twenty
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day. That's amazing. And here's the thing about it. And again we're
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talking to Sam Summerville talking a little bit about the Bobaradette Center, but also
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talking about the Charlie West Barbecue Fest this weekend, and had that The thing
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about it is, Sam, is the statistics are proven that the more idle
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time that kids have on their hands, the worst things turn out usually.
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And if you can get kids involved in anything once that bell rings in the
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afternoon, whether it's sports, whether it's it's musical stuff, that's it's art,
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it's it's just hanging out with others and seeing mentors and things like that,
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working on homework. The better of those kids turn out, no question,
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Dave. I mean, like I said, it's a safe place for
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the children to be. We our staff works with them, they establish relationships
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with them. You know, they're a place that they can go. They
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know they're safe, they can trust our staff, and and it's it's just
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just a great organization. It is. Indeed, I've heard a lot of
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good things we have. Again, we're talking with Sam Summer. Then let's
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go back to the barbecue here for a moment. Now, Friday night,
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you said this is going to be kind of like for the I guess the
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backyard barbecue type folks. And so, now, how does somebody get involved
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in that? If they just want if they think, well, you know,
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I make I make a pretty mean brisket, I can get involved in
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this. How do they do well, that'd be great. All they have
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to do is sign up. We have a Facebook page, Charlie West Barbecue
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Fest. They can sign up there. We have a website Charlie West Barbecue
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Fest dot com. They can sign up there as well. So now when
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they come out, these the guys like me and you you know, just
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cook a little for fun. When they come out on Friday night, they're
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just gonna be cooking their their stuff and then they sell it, they give
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it away. How does it work? Well, the way it works is
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again, they'll come out Friday night sometimes early Saturday morning, and they'll they'll
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start setting up and we have a have a location for each of them.
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And then the way it works about we have different judging events for them,
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and we look at the best ribs, pulled pork a wildcard, and they
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can prepare whatever they want from both the backyard folks and the commercial folks.
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But then about two o'clock then on the Saturday afternoon, then we start selling
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tasting tickets to anyone who wants to come down. So you can buy a
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tasting ticket and then you can go around to the different backyard folks and sample
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they're pulled pork ribs or whatever they have. Yeah, it's gonna be good.
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So now, are you primarily drawing as far as the Saturday event,
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Sam, are you primarily drawing from local people? We get people from the
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tri State, we get people from all over. It's uh, primarily local
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folks. Okay, okay, Well for folks regional folks. Okay, Well,
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I mean there's no such thing as bad but there's some sub barbecue that's
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better than others. But there's no such thing, in my opinions as bad
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barbecue. And here's one of the things about it. Again, as I
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said, nothing saying pulls people together like food. And you've not only got
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food at this but you've got a lot of other events in great music.
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Talk about that. Oh, that's right, and we've got u live music.
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We have three bands coming this year. We have first one starts at
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two o'clock. Canvases is our first one and they play from two to three
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thirty. Jay Hatfield, Well, then we'll come on at four and they'll
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play to five thirty. And then at six o'clock m Emily Deal and the
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hot Mess will be there as well. I love that name seven the hot
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Mess. And she's been a great spart she's been there for the last three
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or four years. Right, that's really been good. Well, it's going
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to be a great event and I'm looking forward to it. Friday night again,
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that's that's kind of for the backyard folks, the folks like me and
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you. And then then Saturday night you're going to do for the for the
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commercial barbecue. Well, well it's really and I didn't mean to confuse it
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day, but it's really for everyone. Friday Nights is kind of a up
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Okay, okay, okay. Event really starts Saturday. Okay, they'll still
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be cooking Saturday, and then at two o'clock it really kicks off. For
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everything. They can buy from uh you know, anyone who's there. Like
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I said, we sell tasting tickets and they can use those to taste backyard
24:15
folks what they've prepared. The commercial vendors you can buy from them as well.
24:18
And so I guess with the tasting tickets, Sam, I guess that
24:21
you know, you can you can get a little bit of a sample and
24:22
then you look at and go, okay, I need more of that.
24:25
Oh yeah, exactly, I need to take that home. You've got fifteen
24:29
to twenty backyard folks and you can go down and talk with them. Every
24:32
it's a it's a great event. It's just people talking with each other,
24:36
uh, listen to some great music and enjoying some great barbecues. Well,
24:38
it's gonna be a lot of fun. These things always are when you get
24:41
people together like that, and especially this time of year, we're getting into
24:45
that backyard barbecue season. I know you and I were talking in the green
24:48
room before the show that you said you're not necessarily a the barbecue expert.
24:52
I'm not a barbecued expert either. I'm just the expert eater. And I
24:56
know and I know what I like. You have a favorite barbecue dish yourself.
25:00
I like ribs. Yeah, you can't go wrong with good ribs.
25:03
I'm more of a brisket guy or the smoke sausage type gap. But but
25:06
I'll do the ribs. And you got to have the sides. You got
25:08
to have all the quality sides. I know the job that they're going to
25:11
have those as well. And again, this is a family friendly event.
25:15
And there's so many things, you know, going on in Charleston and the
25:18
Canal Valley, but this is a good family friendly event. People can come
25:19
down and bring the entire family and uh and just have a good time.
25:23
It is and you can come down, you know, like I said,
25:26
starts at two runs through eight o'clock, So come down and have dinner.
25:29
Yeah, exactly, right back. Uh, it's traffic, there's no traffic.
25:32
Bulevards blocked off and you can just walk around and see. Okay,
25:36
they are blocking off the boulevard foot so yes, it is blocked off.
25:38
Okay, I want to make sure it's for a traffic purposes. People know
25:41
that the boulevard will be blocked off for this again. Everything starts Saturday at
25:45
about two o'clock. Bring the entire family down and and enjoy some great barbecue
25:49
and some great music and fell as we used to say growing up in the
25:52
church, fellowship one with the other and uh and come down and have a
25:55
good time. Sam, I appreciate you being here. If somebody needs more
25:59
information, give us the website, the Facebook, phone numbers, whatever you
26:00
got man. Okay, as I said, website, we have Charlie West
26:06
Barbecue Fest dot com, facebook page Charlie West Barbecue Fest. And I was
26:10
able to find at very as I put a nice little graphic up on the
26:11
on the Facebook page this morning, so you won't have any trouble find it
26:15
again. The Backyardists will be there setting up on Friday night, but the
26:18
event really gets going Saturday afternoon at around two o'clock. Goes so about eight
26:22
or so, right, yes, and proceeds will benefit the Bob Burdette Center.
26:26
If people would like more information about the Bob Bardette Center, which you're
26:29
the I think you said the chairman of the of the board there, what
26:30
do Where can people learn more information about the programs? Like I said,
26:34
you can go online on our website, uh Bobardette Center dot org and find
26:40
more information there. All right, Sam, I appreciate you being here.
26:42
Thanks a lot. Thank you, Dave. We appreciate it. And everyone
26:45
come on down on Saturday. Come on down and enjoy some great barbecue again.
26:48
That's happening this Saturday and had the Riverfront Park. It is the Charlie
26:52
West Barbecue Fest and proceeds benefit the Bob Bardette Center for Kids on the West
26:55
side of Charleston. Sam, we'll talk again soon. Man. Good luck
26:57
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to the barbecue for a moment. I just got a text, Ryan from
30:48
our friend Danny Jones. Danny says he will be bringing some ribs to the
30:53
Charlie West Barbecue Fest this weekend. That's the best news Danny that I've heard
30:57
in along with well, actually best news I had was last Thursday when Danny
31:02
got the call while live on the air that he did not have cancer.
31:06
So that's a really good news. But the fact that Danny's gonna be bringing
31:08
barbecued ribs to the Charlie West Barbecue Festival this weekend. That is even more
31:15
good news bringing Brad mclhonney. Brad, good morning, how are you?
31:18
Oh hi? Now you're making me hungry. Well, I was gonna say,
31:21
as we say in southern West Virginia, Brad, you have a tough
31:23
road to hoe following not only Patrick Morrissey but barbecue talk. Now, you
31:30
seem like a ribs kind of guy. Am I wrong? Oh? Yes,
31:34
yes, but I don't want to eat them in public because I want
31:37
to lick my fingers. Well it's okay if you lick your fingers. The
31:40
problems come if you start licking other people's fingers. That's when it becomes the
31:44
whole thing. And as I mentioned when I was talking, I'm not gonna
31:47
talk about barbecue the whole time. But it's Sam Summersville fault man. He's
31:49
the one that got me started on this. You don't want to forget about
31:52
the quality sides and the main events are okay. As I said, I'm
31:56
a brisket and smoke sausage kind of guy, but I gotta have the ba
32:00
beans and my wife by the way. I gotta give her credit. My
32:01
wife makes the best baked beans I've ever had in my entire life. But
32:06
you gotta have the potato salad, you gotta have the cold slaw, the
32:08
macaroni salad, et cetera. Or it's just not a real barbecue, am
32:12
I Right? Oh my gosh, you're making me so hungry. And the
32:15
thing is, I don't have leftovers from Mother's day brunchers. What I ate
32:22
for my breakfast this morning? So it included sausage and centaters and a little
32:30
bit of bacon like all made of cauliflower and soy products. By the way,
32:38
had a lot of tale I'm making up the second part. Okay,
32:42
it's gonna say, who are you? I mean, you are a disgrace
32:45
to media everywhere. But now I'm to each their own food is food,
32:50
all right? So now we have that. Well, you have a story
32:52
posted on the website that the company is owned by Governor Justice and his family
32:55
aren't exactly happy about the way that they're bankers are going about collecting the over
33:00
three hundred million dollars that the Justice companies own in debts. Break that story
33:05
down, Force Bran, Well, this is a resumed dispute between the companies
33:10
headed by a Governor Justice, ranging from the resorts, to the coal properties
33:15
to the agricultural entities. And on the other side Carter Bank, which is
33:22
their long time banker that they used to have quite a personal relationship with,
33:29
and at one point the Justice has had seven hundred million dollars of debt with
33:32
Carter Bank. Carter decided that is unwieldy and we do not want that much
33:39
in one basket, so they started trying to get out of from under some
33:44
of the Justice debt. As you'll recalled, just a few years ago,
33:49
there was a dispute about three hundred and sixty eight million dollars the Carter Bank
33:58
was trying to cash in on personal guarantees and Justices countersued they resolve that issue
34:06
for the time being and essentially renegotiated the debt. Well, now it has
34:10
flared back up, and it's a little bit of a smaller amount, but
34:15
still one that would make me lose sleep at night. Three hundred probably wouldn't
34:17
you. But three hundred and two million dollars pocket change, man, pocket
34:22
change. That is debt that came to April fifteen, and you know,
34:30
this this relationship has turned sour. So it was personal guarantees, and there
34:36
was another aspect of it called a confessed judgment, which I have never been
34:40
subject to. But essentially it's it's a contractual agreement where if you were not
34:45
good for the debt, the bank can just take it straight to court and
34:49
cash it in. Look here, here is the signed document. Here's how
34:52
much you owe and has come due. I'm cashing it in. The Justices
34:58
have countered in a couple of ways. One was a press release that they
35:01
sent out on a Friday night about a month ago, and it essentially said
35:07
that they believe they've been negotiating in good faith to try to pay that debt
35:12
down, and so what they get your whiteboard out. What they've described in
35:15
that press release was we refinancing through another company, borrowing from someone else two
35:24
hundred and fifty million dollars and then paying cash to Carter Bank to close out
35:30
that amount on some of those debts. Two hundred fifty million dollars. All
35:34
right, we're giving you two hundred fifty million dollars. They acknowledged that there
35:37
would still be fifty seven million dollars left, and the Justices say in that
35:43
press release that they would secure that amount through collateral appraised at more than three
35:47
hundred and twenty five millions. In that press release, they essentially the justices
35:52
did accused Carter of not operating in good faith, of being impatient, of
35:57
not knowing a good deal when they see it. The second part of the
36:01
dispute on the justice end is this is all in court trying to cash in
36:07
those those confessed judgments. It's in court in Martinsville, Virginia, which is
36:12
if you can imagine in the map in your head, it's halfway between Roanoke
36:15
and Greensboro, North Carolina. And so the justices now have entered emotion to
36:24
try to get the whole thing held up in court because they say that the
36:30
confessed judgment is a radical move, that it doesn't allow them their rights to
36:36
do process, to be heard in court. They actually say the fourteenth Amendment,
36:39
and they say that they deserve the right to prevent to have a broader
36:45
defense where you know, being on the trial docket, actually going before court,
36:52
rather than just cashing in these confessed judgments. So it's it's a financial
36:59
dispute that has gotten it's it's a bunch of financial disputes that are just lined
37:09
up nipping at the heels of the governor and his properties. And you know,
37:17
this is a political figure who has cast himself over the years as being
37:22
a business guy. I run the numbers, I buzzed the numbers, and
37:25
it again seems ready to be a part of the political whirlwind. First for
37:34
the primary against Congressman Alec Mooney, Alex Mooney, who is there are ads
37:39
being run on Mooney's behalf by Club for Growth, which is a right erwing
37:45
political action committee to say to call Justice a deadbeat billionaire. And then if
37:51
Justice makes it out around one, he potentially has Joe Manson on the other
37:54
side, and you can bet that these are things that they're going to be
37:58
hammered in that race too. Or he doesn't have Joe Mansion either way,
38:02
because I was listening to talk Line and Hobby had an interview with Aaron Blake
38:06
of the Washington Post on impossible White House run by Senator Mansion. And you
38:12
know, Brad, this has been talked about a lot, but a third
38:14
party candidacy is almost impossible these days. I mean, you know, even
38:17
on our statewide races that we see you know, it's I mean, the
38:22
electric can only handle about two people going at it at a time, Blake,
38:25
HARKing back to the days of Teddy Roosevelt and even Ross Perow if you
38:30
want to go back to ninety two. But there are a lot of people
38:35
that still think that this could be done, especially Brad, considering that forty
38:39
seven percent of all Americans, regardless of party lines, do not want Donald
38:45
Trump or Joe Biden to run for president. Your thoughts, I do think
38:51
it is an uphill battle likely to I mean, history would show you running
38:55
as a third party candidate, unless you consider him Lincoln back part of the
39:01
Civil War to have been a third party candidate. It's just hard to win
39:06
that way, you know, darn near impossible. So it's it would be
39:09
unprecedented, But you were right. The binary choice that people have would show
39:17
you that people are not particularly excited about the incumbent President Biden or about the
39:23
return of the former president Donald Trump. On the other hand, if you
39:30
feel that way, you know, if it's a lot of people feel that
39:34
way, viewing it as an existential crisis. But you know, maybe you
39:37
feel like Biden is beholden to the radical left and he just doesn't have it
39:43
anymore. Maybe you feel like President Trump has authoritarian impulses and as a threat
39:47
to democracy. And when you view it that way, a third party candidate,
39:53
particularly a potentially a high profile one, you know, you can begin
39:58
to view it as a factor. Oh my gosh, he's gonna tip it
40:02
to whichever one you think is the most threatning. Yeah, it's you know,
40:07
I think that there's a sort of sense of for voting people might have
40:10
about it rather than a welcoming impulse despite the unpopularity of the two likely major
40:16
Canada. It's amazing to me, and I'm going to get into this maybe
40:20
on a later show that the number of people that I talked to Brad on
40:23
a daily basis of Democrats not all liberal. Let me just say democrats a
40:29
general from the liberal and more conservative Democrats that will privately say, gosh,
40:32
I wish anybody but Joe Biden was running. And and I hear the same
40:37
thing from a lot of my Republican counterparts that say I wish anybody but Donald
40:43
Trump was running. However, neither one of them will say it publicly.
40:47
And this is where we are, and it's just frustrating to me, I
40:52
mean, it's just frustrating. All right, let me move on to something
40:54
else where. We let you go and they get a busy day. Could
40:58
be an interesting battle shaping up one of many in the in the States Senate.
41:04
Two names anonymous for politics out of the Eastern Panhandle Delicate Paul Espinosa and
41:07
the sitting senator there, Patricia Rucker. Espinosa announcing on our sister station Panhandle
41:15
Alive up there, which is the Eastern Hanhal's version of this show, that
41:17
he's going to give it a go, uh, and that he's going to
41:21
try to unsee Patricia Rucker. You had the story posted at wv Metro news
41:24
dot com. Brad, this could be a very interesting battle. Oh man,
41:29
it really could be. I mean, that's a growing area, and
41:31
those are two people who have been friendly and political allies to this point.
41:37
A couple of things that I would point out to kind of broaden it.
41:43
One is that you know, with apologies to frequent guests Michael Pushkin, chairman
41:46
of the Democratic Party, that that is not where the political competition is these
41:51
days. It's within the Republican Party itself. And you see that down the
41:55
line from from governor Justice facing off in a primary against Congerman Mooney, a
42:00
very competitive race amongst several people for governor, the attorney general's race between between
42:08
Senators Weld and Stewart. Did you and then let me just jump here if
42:13
you if you heard Senator Stewart on this show two weeks ago, then you
42:15
heard Senator Weld on this show last week. If you haven't heard it,
42:19
go back and listen to those two are already like squaring off. I mean,
42:22
they are going at it. But just to add to your point,
42:24
to go ahead, yeah, well that's what's happening here. Also, I
42:28
mean Espinoza, the delegate who is now announcing he's running for state Senate,
42:35
and State Senator Rucker. Are you know, they are relatively aligned on the
42:43
Republican political spectrum. There may be some differences Rutgers probably a little more populist,
42:49
but you know, what you're getting is a clear choice, is a
42:52
choice for voters in that Jefferson and Berkeley County district for Republican primary voters.
43:00
The other thing that's worth mentioning about it is that there is a larger split
43:06
in the Senate itself between you know, sort of more traditional you know,
43:13
I suppose you'd say pro business. If you were not going to be super
43:19
kind to them, you might say establishment Republicans and more populist Republicans. And
43:29
so Rutger is probably among the more populist wing, and they have given the
43:35
President Craig Blair some headaches, you know, deservedly so or not. Nothing
43:40
says the caucus always has to agree. It's a marketplace of idea. That's
43:45
why they get together, and that's why they have a caucus. But you
43:49
know, I think that the more populist end, you know, it's a
43:53
real tipping point for the balance of power in the Senate. And I feel
43:59
like at this point it's likely the Senate President Blair wouldn't mind seeing a few
44:06
of those more populist caucus members be replaced by some other people. And that's
44:13
what you got here. Rutger of course, flirted with running for a spot
44:19
against Blair, wound up deciding not to do it. He took her off
44:25
as chairman of the Education Committee and replaced her with Amy Nicole Grady. So
44:31
there is there is a track record there, and I don't think he is
44:37
mining at all. But the delicate Esperinoza has mounted a campaign for that seat,
44:42
currently held by Senator Rutger. I would agree. All right, Brad
44:45
boy, let you go. What are you looking at today? What's on
44:47
the what's on the brad radar today? The brad are today? You know,
44:52
I hate to tell you in the listeners this it is a very exciting
44:55
day. But unlike the governor, my calendar doesn't actually show any major events
45:02
today. So if you were, if you were looking for my calendar or
45:07
the governors, they would both have blank spots. And so I am.
45:09
I am digging for news, but I guarantee you the listeners and this news
45:15
organization, once I find it, it will be very exciting new. It
45:17
will be very exciting news that always is. Brad. I appreciate it,
45:21
man. We'll talk soon. Thanks a lot. Eight minutes away from ten
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Actually use the Google machine on that and yeah, yeah, today is National
45:46
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45:50
say I was smart enough to know that ahead of time when I had Sam
45:52
Somerville talking about Charlie West Barbecue Fest. But I did not know that until
45:57
the text or sent it to me, and I do I appreciate it.
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of course, is the other person in that Senate race between Governor Jim
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Justice and between Congressman Alex Mooney on the Republican side. Chris Rose was on
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Hoppy yesterday, who was also on the show on My show last week Texas.
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I heard yesterday that Senator Grady formed an exploratory committee on running for governor.
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I first I've heard of that. She's a regular listener to the show.
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you by Pappy's Air Comfort and the WCCHS Network Programming Notice. I said I'll
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be taking some time off. I'm off on Thursday of this week. Dale
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Cooper will be subbing for me. I'll be back on Friday. That I'm
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off all next week, returning to the show the day after Memorial damn me
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thirtieth Dale Cooper and for me that's Thursday. Then all next week as well.
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Again, I will be returning on Tuesday, the thirtieth, and no
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confidential to the Texter that ask if I would be going to the same nudest
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commedy that Hoppy went to. I have no idea what that means, by
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the way, but I'm gathering Hoppy or a call or text or somebody must
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have referenced a nudest commedy somewhere. I don't. I don't know what that
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means. No, I will not. I can't speak for mister Kirchiville,
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but I can assure you I will not be at a nudist camp. Ain't
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nobody want to see that? I can, including me. I can be
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found next week at an undisclosed Sunday location with lots of sand, ocean and
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corona. That's the beer, not the virus. Speaking of a hobby of
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the day's show, he'll have Patrick Morrissey on, who's just on this show
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and some discussions about green power. The folks doing this new facility in South
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Charleston. He's also going to get info on this new report that's criticizing the
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FBI for their investigation into the twenty sixteen Trump campaign, and also UMWA President
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Cecil Roberts and w U baseball coach Randy Mazie on the show. This baseball
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team, by the way, is doing some amazing things if you have them,
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been following at their highest ranking since the early nineteen sixties, and they
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could potentially win the Big twelve regular season title. It's all A Metro News
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coming up on the show, tomorrow. Good friend Milly Snyder when the Shape
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Shop is going to be here? Plus Putnam County Clerk and candidate for Secretary
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Hoppy's up next for my producer, Ryan Nicholson. Thank you so much.
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