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Drunken Peasants, Gman Dragon Chicken, Matt Powell Hitler, Shanny For Christ, Adam Lore,Brett Keane · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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Happy, happy Easter. All right.
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Okay, so I'm going to quickly read brown bear brown bear.
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So you're all not soaking wet and they're not gonna let me
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read it all. I'll let you hear.
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You can start us off. Can you hear backwards?
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Go ahead brown bear brown bear. What do you see?
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I see a bird looking at me now. You got it.
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Okay, yellow duck. Yellow duck.
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Hello, its me. I was wondering if after all
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these years, you'd like to meet to go over everything.
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They say that times supposed to heal ya, but I ain't done much
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healing. Hello, can you hear?
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Me, I'm in California Dreaming about who we used to be when we
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were younger and free. I've forgotten how it felt
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before the world fell at our feet.
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There's such a difference between eyes.
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It's so typical of me to talk about myself.
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I'm sorry, I hope that you are. Breaking your heart.
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We ever side. I must've called a thousand
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times to tell you. Anything that I've done, but
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when I call, you never seem to be home.
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Hello from the outside. Hello, ladies and gentlemen,
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this is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
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I hope you're all having a wonderful day.
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The link is out in the comments as well as the description if
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you want to come in and chat. Oh yeah, let's see what we got
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here. Okay, it looks like we got some
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buddies wanting to come in. Let me make sure that They're
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decent, let's see. Let me put something up real
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quick. There we go.
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Okay. Hello ghost, man.
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How are you? All right, how are you?
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All right, you're good people. So I can put this back on the
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screen. Well, I was just getting ready
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to show off the new channel that I'm using.
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I do have. I'm so going to be doing
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YouTube. Ladies and gentlemen, hey ghost
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man, can do something with your audio older.
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You're making some disturbing noises and they're just mute it
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whenever you're not talking. Yeah, it sounds like Somebody's
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making love in a Jet Plane kind of hateful.
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Yeah, you just mean you just mute the mic whenever you're not
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talking and that'll work. Just fine as mute button at the
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bottom. That the real G man.
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Give me a middle finger, that's really you.
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Or wave wave. So I know it's you, okay?
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Okay, got to make sure G-Man. Have you heard of Odyssey before
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Odyssey? No, let me put you right there.
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Since you actually. And got face on camera.
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Odyssey is like a new version of YouTube, but with freedom of
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speech, you get the clown on people, not have to worry about
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it. Being too mean or hurt and
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feelings and all that. If you'd like to make you a
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channel on, are one of the cool things it does G-Man is, it'll
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Up with your channel and take your videos from YouTube, make a
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copy and put them all over there.
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So you'll have a backup and it does it all by itself.
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Excellent. Give me a link to that.
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All right, let me look in my description real quick.
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Well actually I can just give you the link right here.
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What am I doing? Get us a lot of people doesn't
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make any Exodus from YouTube because YouTube you know seems
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to support trolls and doesn't support actual content creators.
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Let me make sure that this is actually praised.
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I am out here, whole darn their praise.
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I got to make sure to you and you never get on camera.
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So I got to put up something to make sure that somebody in a
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clown. Here we go.
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There's there we go. Stranger danger, folks.
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Stranger Danger. All right, so is this the real
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praise? I am.
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It is. What's up?
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Brett? What do you think about the
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stranger danger? Blocker.
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Why did I like it's good stuff. Awful you have the image on the
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left that you guys see. Now with the NAMBLA thing that
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was actually done by Praise, I am he's very creative person, I
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appreciate that. It was so g-man's.
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What's going on, man? What's going on?
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Yeah. How you doing is interesting to
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be in the room with you, finally, I seen some of the
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community posts that you put up by atheist.
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Yeah. Atheism is a trash worldview and
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I glad I like how you expose that G-Man.
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I enjoyed our debate to, we were doing slavery.
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Good stuff. No, thank you, I appreciate
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that. Yeah, but if he is a Dying Breed
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you know what I mean? And we need to keep it up to
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make sure every remains that way.
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True that true that. Yeah, but I've been on a break
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I've been on a break for a little bit so I'll be Back to
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making videos on a regular basis and probably another week or so.
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Oh nice. Yeah, I noticed you were in the
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crosshairs of smoky. Like what does he have against
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Yugi? Ma'am.
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Smokey doesn't like the fact that I think cussing is a sin
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and I had a date with them at a debate with him about it.
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And he actually admitted that customs of sin, he just claims
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that there's nuances in that there are times when it's
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appropriate, and I just don't believe that.
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I believe when you do it, you should know at least.
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When you do it, that is wrong, right?
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You know, bare minimum, you know, right?
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The Bible does not condone any type of foul, language, bitter
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mouth like a bitter mouth, any of that stuff and he does it
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constantly with that will Kincaid.
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And they tried to make fun of you like you're a Puritan.
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But see you're you're committed to the word of God.
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I appreciate that. Jim.
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And I'm glad you stick to your guns and I appreciate that and
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hopefully some people Learn from it and do something with it.
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But I use sarcasm like a lot of people do and I get mad on here
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sometimes and I say things that I don't cuss mainly because I
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understand that, you know, this is a public platform or whatever
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and you do it one time, you'll never hear the end of it.
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So, I'm trying really hard to have never happen.
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No, I don't know person's wrong. I know that I make a mistake
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quite a bit on it, but I, I know biblically.
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It's something that needs to be worked on.
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Darn it. You can't that there's nowhere
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in the Bible where it says, Matthew 416 custom scream and
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run through the highway naked. You know, there's nothing like
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that out there, folks. I'm sorry.
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Exactly. And the way that I got Smokey
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was, as I said Smokey, well, if you believe Customs, okay, why
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don't you get your kid to go to school and start cussing and
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Watch What Happens. Watch What Happens but and go to
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some adults and have your minor is going, custom out and whatnot
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and see what happens. There is clearly something wrong
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with people that kind of language or any workplace.
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Like I guarantee you Smoky for use that language in his
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workplace. He wouldn't be working there too
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much longer. Exactly.
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Exactly G-Man. Yellow gold man are even I'm
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alright. How about you?
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Well, you make good videos. Appreciate it.
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Thank you. Are you an atheist or a freshman
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Crush? Okay, right here.
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Yeah. So I try Oh so goes not go
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swimming. But G-Man what happened with a
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chamois and revive. The only Clips I've got to see
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about it is obviously the non-believer community they
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can't eat or or play video game with that being watched by those
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non-believers what happened there?
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I think she and he started making money because she didn't
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violate any terms of service. She started making money in
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their goal is to ruin them and Dupree.
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Don't from making any money to support themselves.
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And at the same time, get in front of their cameras and
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pretend like they care about their kids and pretend like they
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want them to get a job, which is what they do.
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And I can say this because I have the unique opportunity to
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see them on a regular basis. So I believe that she got quite
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a lot of the evening. I mean, thousands of dollars to
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the Amazing Atheist so you can buy more bananas.
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Why don't they help out these kids in the family?
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You know what I mean? And some like fan pudgy, man,
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that aside I gave you even though.
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I'm definitely not in love with rub and Changi based upon how
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they treated me in the past. I still think they have the
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right to talk and communicate and make money doing the
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business are in this thing. So give them the Odyssey site.
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They're able to live stream on it.
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They're able to do things. It's getting really popular.
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Like you said, people are getting away from YouTube
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because they're tired of the Nazi censorship and they will
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survive over there. Hey Brad, let me ask you a
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question and as a former atheist, why do they always Talk
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about how, you know, they were against censorship, but they
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have no problem censoring other people.
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Well, they are against censorship team and they're
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against themselves being censored.
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Everybody else. Screw them.
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That's it. Exactly.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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But it's funny how many people flocked in them and actually
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believe the stuff that comes out of their mouth and it's like,
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it's like stop listening to these people.
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These people are hypocrites, are liars and and they only concern
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About themselves that they're not concerned about the World At
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Large that it was not. Oh appraised.
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I am I don't know if you looked in the privates yet.
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I offered this link over to G-Man with YouTube.
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Having the problems it is, you could sign up for an account
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upload videos, or you can sync it up with your YouTube channel.
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And it'll grab all your videos and make copies of them on the
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new site out of c.com. So sweet box for men I
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appreciate that. Re you can live stream as well.
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So you're good to go. I'm sure Shanty and Will be
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happy because they look like they were ready to punch holes
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in the wall. When things went bye-bye, I know
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how that feels seen that pink slips as you start get out of
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the YouTube. The funny thing is this, I know
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the things that she and he is complaining about on YouTube
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because I watched her talk to a representative from YouTube.
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And what's interesting about it is and I have some people
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looking into this. But what's interesting about it
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is that apparently she can't be on here.
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In video games, she can't be on here, expressing her views and
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her opinions, but it's perfect. And those videos are
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inappropriate on YouTube, but those same videos can be used on
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somebody else's YouTube channel. You understand what I'm saying?
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Like you to saying that Shaney. Can't do it but other people can
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use the same video for their purposes or whatever.
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That's ridiculous. And the, and I notice that
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they're targeting people who they pulled a think, can't
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afford a lawyer. You notice that, the people,
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that, that can afford a lawyer or can't afford an attorney,
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they don't mess with those people, but they mess with
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anybody. They believe they cannot afford
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a lawyer. There's a method to their
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Madness. Well, I personally don't mind
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people using my stuff, but, of course, I could see how it'd be
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aggravating for Chamois if she's not able to make money or get
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any production value out of it, but they're making all the
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profit off of her. That's the reason why I'm saying
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go to Odyssey and also, I don't know if you realize this and I
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know I'm going to get yelled at for this, by, by the community
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out there, but if her videos are up somewhere and she's got
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backup copy Use and people steal her videos even though they're
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not on YouTube dmca still works but I've been telling them I
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hate for that but hey yo digital Millennial act.
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If someone steals your your intellectual property you can go
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about reporting it to YouTube you know but there's a bigger
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problem here though. Britt Google is claiming that
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there for social justice and Google is cleaning That they're
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there for African-Americans and minorities, but in reality, they
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have several of these people in that community that it's
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actually not only supporting racism but they're they're going
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out there and promoting it and saying it's okay when they do
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it, you know, to be supporting women as well as people who are
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being Shane based upon their looks and that all that's being
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done. Also it says it's hate speech to
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attack people or disabled which I have as well as Fanny had
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clearly said. They are.
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So they broken every terms of service and Community guidelines
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made by man, I'm trying to get a Class, A class action lawsuit
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against these guys, when trying to get multiple YouTubers who
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are who are tireless to come together and put their money
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together and come after Google itself.
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Because once Google sees that multiple content creators are
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serious about it, videos of, I mean, you're going to be flying
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off of YouTube, you got to take them down and mass will their
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Wellness. Very passionate about doing
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something about all these problems.
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The issue is is that if you take him into a courtroom and he
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starts talking about sorcery and Flat Earth that might cause
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before you true true, that's why you need certain kind of content
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creators to do it. I'm trying to hook up with this
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guy called negs and a couple of other people on here.
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We're having problems with these people and try to do something
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like that. And there's other people out
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want to talk about in public. Well, I'm trying to hook up with
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because the fact that I matter People think they can do
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whatever they want because they got the safety of their computer
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screen, right? You got to meet some of these
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people in person. These are some of the most
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wimpiest laziest non adventurous people, you ever met in your
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life. When you meet these people in
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person, the talk a big game 1 on the computer screen.
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Meeting that person that big teddy bears.
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I'll tell you, if you ever manage to get a court thing,
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going on a good lawyer and all that.
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And you guys get some kind of GoFundMe or whatever, where you
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get like this real nasty shock. Mark Perry, Mason type of
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lawyer. I would love to go in the
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courtroom with you guys. And also, as you know, I've had
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issues in the past as well. So I would do, I would totally
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jump on that. The problem is that, as I'm, so
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poor G-Man that when I come into my house, the Cockroach trips
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coming around, steals my wallet. That's not bad.
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I can't afford that kind of lawyer.
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I know the feeling I know the feeling I know the feeling but
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things for me are going to change.
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So I'm just waiting for a couple of things and a lot of those
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channels that are doing all that big talk are going to wish, they
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never even heard of me before. All that money that I personally
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believe all of the money that they're making is going to
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change hands. They can do what they want with
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it now but they're going to be giving it to the people that
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have been stealing from soon enough.
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Well until you and some of your army get that all set up.
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I'm just gonna have to wait till I win the lottery until then I
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guess I'll just have to live with it until they try to kill
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me. What do you think praise I am.
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You got any advice? You are a wise old sage.
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Yeah, there has to be a massive undertaking.
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They could, I agree. There has to be something that
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needs to be led. Like, we need at least we need
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some strong soldiers out there like G-Man bread and some other
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people to lead. Hopefully you know, I hear you
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there, praise Just a Nobody out there in comments is.
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Wow, how could the roach and rant?
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This disrespect? You like that?
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Brett. Well, they've been like that
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ever since I had a good stance on Leo.
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That's how poor I am, right? That does it presents.
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Does a drunken peasants even crack 500 live viewers anymore?
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Oh no, ever since you and I left they went down to like 200,000
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and I told them. Remember my prediction, I'm not
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a prophet, but I said if TJ kirklees that damn show, that'll
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be the end of it. I said I'm sorry Ben but you
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just don't have any Talent you got no Charisma without TJ you
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are mine. Self are in there that, it's
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well, I was about to say dump and a nasty word, but it just
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went right down the tubes. They're barely breaking 10,000
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views and the guy he's not going to have me or you are near.
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He's especially not going to have me because I'm the one that
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exposed him for committing adultery on his woman.
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And she left us his tail end but they got Billy to fridge.
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The best rapper in the world. You know, he's going to bring in
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the, you know, he isn't. Yeah, but he's not doing
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anything creative anymore. He's just Are eating doughnuts
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and just pretending to so been somewhat interesting.
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Exactly, exactly. I told them the same thing.
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I was like, man. What happened to this show?
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The show used to be popping. Easy rocking, you got Billy to
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fridge. Now.
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It's also pushing monk. I can't tell you how many times
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I've seen that guy fall asleep. While they're talking such low
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energy, Donald Trump would have been totally disappointed.
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I can actually go into drunken peasants and legitimately say
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there's more People. And you two talking about me,
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then there are people talking about the drunken peasants.
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I can literally make that clean. Now that's true.
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That's true. Yeah, and and nobody watches my
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channel but everybody wants to talk about me though.
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It's hilarious. I think be like to see you in an
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aggressive scenarios and all that, where you're interacting
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and engaging with others and all that.
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You notice your Andrew Israelites or whatever you were
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doing live stuff, where you were chatting with people.
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I think that's what people were really into, they like, seeing
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you get excited and bring down the hammer of Thor.
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You know, I did it about two and a half weeks ago when I was
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doing that. But only me doing it all summer
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long. The people in YouTube, I think
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the Eagles have gotten too big where they think that we need
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them to come to our platforms, to grow our channels.
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I can two things I can come to your channel every time you go
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live, right? If a meiosis Channel or I can
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just go outside and find these people alive and record them
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live, it's better that way. Less ego, I get the actually
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have a conversation with them and I don't got to deal with all
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of the, you know, people playing copy over and music and all that
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other stuff when when they come in my room or whatever, you
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know, Aiden's asking this and I don't know why he would think
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that you would have any respect, but there you go, he's just
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join. Sorry, if you've already
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answered this did You respect the peasants at any point, G,
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man. And if so, when did you lose
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that respect? Wouldn't it be around the time
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of banana went up the behind? I mean, well, I would say that.
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Yeah, that's what that video. We stuck a banana his crotch.
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Yeah. But actually, it was even a
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lower point. And that's when the whole Billy
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to fridge, when TJ left and the ability to fridge came on there
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and I attempted to have an intellectual conversation with
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them. And I mean, I thought TJ was
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dumb, but Billy the first takes it to a whole Another level.
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So, you know, I had a family member that was a fan of a lot
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of his racks and Billy. The phrase challenge me to a rap
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battle. We did on the drunken peasants,
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I didn't really do anything. He did his little thing or
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whatever. And then I made one and he
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hasn't responded and they made a second one, mentioning him and
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he didn't respond. This is supposed to be a
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so-called professional rapper, you know?
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I mean that's supposed to be all that buffalo wings.
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You know what I mean? And I mean one wrap and he
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doesn't even want to mention it. One woman had a couple
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conversations with ability to fridge, believe it or not, he
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actually came on the show, probably about a year and a half
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ago and we talked about games and music and and it was real
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chill. It was real chill.
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But I went on his Discord and we were still continuing to have a
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good conversation, but he had this lap dog behind him.
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This idiot that was in the same Discord that kept on going.
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Hurry, bro. You got a mac and cheese over
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and over. Over and I'm like, Billy, do you
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know this animal or do you know this guy?
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Yeah, he's my buddy. I was like, he's kind of stupid.
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Is there any way you can mute him or something?
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So we can actually have a discussion.
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It was hard to have a conversation with some of the
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people he hangs out with. Oh, you know what it is.
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Some of them will use the same joke at nauseam to pass the
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expiration date and still think it's funny.
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You know what I mean? So they do the same thing to me
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but after a while you just ignore them.
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Well, you Just go with the joke and say, oh, that's pretty
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funny. Next question, you know, you
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know, know why I missed your lower isn't in here talking this
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up but IG man who are some of your favorite rappers.
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If I had to say something, I like the old gangster rap and
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stuff. But what do you into Dana Dane?
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Would say, one or two a Biggie Smalls ut'fo in some of the old
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school rappers? Not a lot of this new stuff
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because there's a difference between hip-hop and rap.
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As a matter of fact, I'm still trying to figure out what hip
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hop is because no one can identify with it, but most
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people can still identify with the stuff back in the 80s.
31:37
What do you think about Ice-T's old stuff an ice cube and some
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of the stuff like ghetto, boys, and all that.
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Ice Cube was Hardcore and most of his stuff, especially when he
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was in n.w.a. iced tea. I don't think I listed a whole
31:53
lot of him. You should check out this song
31:57
called the tower. You'd really like that that's
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off his original gang style though I love that it's a song.
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It kind of tells a story he's telling a story while the Beats
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going and all that about being locked in prison and all that
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and having the survive and making Shanks and all that
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that's rough. You want to know who?
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I think I can compete against and you got to laugh, right?
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You're not going to believe me. But I think I can beat one of
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those guys from ER, be in a rap battle.
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Oh, the epic rap. Yeah, I think I can beat one of
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those guys. I'm not saying I'm, I'll blow
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them out of the water, but I think I can.
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I think I can beat nice peter. Nice peter is good but every
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time he raps a black guy, something racist comes out of
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that guy's mouth. Where something towards racism?
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Comes out? I'm dying to have a rap battle
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with him, me writing my own stuff, and he can write what he
32:45
wants to make it fun though. You know what I mean?
32:52
Like that. He could be a coward to object.
32:55
I mean, I would love to do the George Washington or something
32:59
like that versus George Washington Carver or something
33:03
like that. I don't know, do something like
33:05
that. You know what I mean?
33:06
Thurman Thomas versus somebody that he would want to do.
33:10
I would absolutely destroy him. I would absolutely destroy him.
33:15
If given the opportunity you know genius but I am fans of er,
33:21
be though. Yeah.
33:23
Be You realize that the Epic Rap Battles of History.
33:27
If you seen any of the like backstage stuff, they record the
33:31
song first and then they do all the CGI and green screen and all
33:35
that, that seems like a lot of work, is it going to jump in and
33:38
put all that film behind them poof?
33:41
The only reason I don't do that is because I don't have a green
33:43
screen once I learn how to do the green screen or figure out
33:47
how I can do it with zoom, but it's a lie shot, so what have to
33:50
do? But it but I can figure that
33:52
out. I can do videos.
33:53
Like that myself and I can actually pretend to be other
33:56
YouTubers which I've been thinking about doing for a long
33:58
time. You think one you too boring
34:02
here. I would love to imitate anyway.
34:05
Go ahead a goes me. Oh sorry, are you a loved one?
34:13
Guys, still fighting dragging it.
34:17
I want nothing to do with that individual whatsoever.
34:21
That particular, that particular individuals Partnerships chew a
34:28
ship here? Well, guys, I'll be right back.
34:31
In a moment goes, man. If you'd like to ask G-Man some
34:33
questions, go for it. And remember, don't forget,
34:37
Odyssey and definitely hook ups. The ante and rub with that, even
34:40
though I'm, I'm totally annoyed at how they treated me in the
34:43
past. I still think they should be
34:45
able to have their video channel, you know what I mean?
34:48
All right, I agree with you Brett because there are people
34:51
in here who done me wrong, whoo-hoo platforms, was taken
34:54
away from them and after wrong, because they have every right to
34:58
have you to be able to express their opinions.
34:59
To, I got they did. The Atheist is take it to
35:02
another level. They're a different group of
35:05
they're totally different group of aliens from outer space.
35:07
I don't know. Have you ever heard of Pastor
35:12
heinous and Steven Anderson? Yeah.
35:17
Mmm. The idea is that you're happy
35:21
that your password. No, I seen him on YouTube.
35:25
A lot. He's back now.
35:29
They kicked him off of YouTube. He's on live now with designer
35:33
guy. Hmm, I didn't know, I didn't
35:37
know, they kicked him off. Well, the Communists are trying
35:42
to take over YouTube. That's what's going on right
35:44
now. When I say the Communist, I'm
35:46
talking about the atheist. They, they clean out there for
35:49
education, but I think by now, most people know that they're
35:52
into indoctrination, they don't want any Rivals, they want you
35:55
to hear what they got to say, who cares about other people.
35:57
Got to say, you know I mean eventually you know somebody's
36:00
got to clean the affirmative action or something or or or or
36:04
claim that there's only one point of view on YouTube and the
36:07
other point of views can't be heard like the person that gets
36:11
the resources as soon as YouTube is going to be wealthy Beyond
36:14
imagination, but if you want and you got a billion dollars, It's
36:21
not like, I'm probably not going to be the winners when I do.
36:23
It's gonna be somebody else. When you talk, why do you talk
36:30
with talk like that? Talk quick, wash. you do a lot
36:35
of and all and all that stuff, but Yeah, her last time you when
36:47
was the last time you talked to Steve, McRae?
36:52
Mcrea me. My grace.
36:54
I think your voice sounds very familiar.
36:59
Don't like this YouTuber when here, I'm not saying that, you
37:02
are who you saw a YouTuber, who, who claimed that this pie
37:06
argument could destroy the Bible?
37:10
I doubt that I doubt that you remember, I wanted was the last
37:18
time. You talked to us, Steve I don't
37:21
hear that Steve guy on Modern debate.
37:25
Stevens I wouldn't make rice as name is Steve make races not.
37:32
Yeah I'm not sure that one guy. Sure who that is I don't know
37:36
nobody named Steve make races he's on all modern debate.
37:42
Oh modern-day debate that's jeans and thank you.
37:46
I mean that our guy who was on there with them James, Steve, I
37:53
don't know. I think his name is Steve of God
37:57
is able I said I've been a while, but yeah, he remembers.
38:03
One time. He was make fun of you for not
38:06
supporting trains or something. He had the long beard, economize
38:11
me, Wizard weight on my arm Rah, I think he's a trainee Bobby.
38:20
I mean does that other guy to have up me?
38:22
You're against it right? Your, your against transgenders,
38:25
right? Yeah.
38:27
Okay. How long you been against it
38:30
long time? I've been helping keeping kids
38:34
safe from there. Keeping kids and how you been
38:37
doing? That sort of work through with
38:39
my friend. I'll send them studies and
38:42
stuff. Okay?
38:44
Kids from train abuse. Okay.
38:48
All right, so you must be time, I are wrong.
38:50
His name is Steve. Oh that guy you know he's a
38:55
saint - Aaron, I'm wrong. I found that out when this
38:59
YouTube channel yet and I'm going to use that against him in
39:02
a future because you claim to be against religion and it cleans
39:05
EB against the deity when he is clearly worshiping Satan, you
39:09
know, damn, when I first seen him wearing the big old trench
39:12
and all that I said to myself, he signed her Klingon from Star
39:17
Trek or he's a saying so, oh, we got some people out here asking
39:22
you stuff. I don't know if you're able to
39:23
see it. I guess I remember you saying
39:31
that you don't think Saints and he talking about steaming over
39:37
non sequitur show? Oh yeah I mean I'm kind of bury
39:40
the hatchet. We're not like Bosom Buddies.
39:43
We're not going to stick together but we don't fight no
39:45
more useful not now. No Steve McCurry boy.
39:49
Yeah I don't know if you heard but call Curtis robbing him.
39:52
That was the same guy he tried to start some major trouble with
39:55
me. I was happy.
39:57
You see him get canned off the show, but Steve McCurry when a
40:00
second round trying to get non sequitur going and he brought
40:04
this girl are in there. That was seemingly getting more
40:06
popular than him called chess or something like that.
40:09
I'm sure of it. Yeah, she was getting so much
40:12
love and nobody gave a damn about what he was saying.
40:15
He looks like Beetlejuice over there so they ended up he ended
40:19
up losing his crap over and then went off our Nur and also a
40:23
couple patreons and he's in a lot of heat right now.
40:26
Dee I didn't know that if you got a link to that, like to take
40:30
a look at, I mean, I got them both on Skype.
40:32
I can ask them myself personally but yeah, it was rough man.
40:36
That was rough. People been making videos about
40:39
it. It's a real nice music video.
40:41
They put together but she says Fu allowed in the video.
40:45
Oh okay. All right.
40:47
No I mean the bestest eat. McRae has non sequitur show.
40:51
And he he I think they wanted me to go on there to debate Jeff.
40:57
Lee Peterson. I think it was, they wanted me
40:58
to debate him but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
41:04
But when I heard that, Jesse, Lee Peterson has an interesting
41:06
opinion. He thinks white people are
41:08
better than black people. He's a black man that believes
41:11
that white people are better than black people just in
41:14
general and have a conversation with him about that, huh?
41:20
Have you ever called Jesse Peterson?
41:23
No, and I don't think I'm ever going to find out what I want on
41:27
this show. I know, I know if I'm going to
41:30
talk to him. I want at least an hour or two
41:32
with him and talk to him about a few things.
41:35
Yeah, me and we me and him were having a pretty good discussion,
41:39
but it seemed like he wanted to get some drama going.
41:41
He was like, Brett. Do you have emotional problems?
41:44
And I said, I really do and he goes amazing.
41:49
Would you like to be my therapist for a while because I
41:51
can't afford professional help? You know what's getting old?
41:55
No, Brett. I used to be obsessed with
41:57
debating that Dylan. I got like little to no desire
42:00
to debate that man anymore because me and his other
42:03
YouTuber. By the name, is Jay Thomas and
42:05
has been debunked in a lot of his debates and his arguments
42:08
and is actually better at doing that than actually having a
42:11
dialogue with him because Matt's had annihilus.
42:13
And if all you're going to do is sit back and say, I'm not
42:15
convinced, I'm not convinced, I'm not convinced, I'm not
42:17
convinced, you're not going to really get anything out of him,
42:20
so and he's not the intellectual.
42:21
He makes himself out to be especially when it comes to
42:24
whether or not God exists. There's so many different ways
42:26
to shut him down before you even get started as Not even funny.
42:30
It's not even funny. I hear you there.
42:33
I don't know if you heard but I recently called The Atheist
42:36
Experience again and had a discussion with them.
42:39
They ended up hanging up on me. Apparently they only want dumb
42:41
theist on there. They don't want people who can
42:45
go toe-to-toe with them. I also, I don't know.
42:48
Have you heard when you call you know, when just, I believe it
42:51
was like yesterday or the day before and I uploaded the video,
42:55
I recorded the conversation and they tried saying I ran off or
43:00
something, but you can clearly hear them and hang up Army and
43:03
the recording. I also called something called
43:06
the line. Have you ever heard that before?
43:08
Isn't that be baby or the sister?
43:10
The Sister Sister station deities experience.
43:16
No, it's ran by Godless engineer.
43:19
Have you ever heard of that guy before?
43:21
Oh my God. The last time I thought that
43:22
Brett the last time I thought that God was engineer.
43:24
I sent that guy sent that kid home, packing crying.
43:27
Like a little baby last time. I talked to him.
43:30
Yeah, it was, it was a rough discussion.
43:33
Trying to be as friendly as possible but he, he's one of
43:36
them type of people where you got scientists who are saying.
43:40
They don't know things and he'll just make stuff up as he goes.
43:44
That is not Whatsoever. And of course, if you asking for
43:48
evidence, he's as like dirty gag, a hell of a lot of them
43:52
like to talk about Evolution but don't know nothing about the
43:54
topic. The only say that they always go
43:56
to, I'm not a biologist or I'm not a chemist but I don't use
43:59
Faith, give me a break, they can't even break it down and
44:03
tell us the differences between micro and macro and answer some
44:07
really easy questions. If you're the biologist, your
44:10
claim you are and everything, they can't do it.
44:13
And they have a faith that evolution is True.
44:15
There's no scientific evidence to support it.
44:19
How long was curious about something?
44:21
The Shanty and rev actually staying with, you know, but you
44:27
you're able to there in proximity where you can visit
44:30
them right? Oh absolutely.
44:32
I can visit them whenever I whenever I want.
44:34
But no, they're not staying in the place that I'm staying.
44:37
And no, no, you know, why? Me and revin Shannon got into it
44:40
in the first place, right? I remember, I remember like it
44:44
was yesterday. Did you ever tried talking to
44:46
him? Because I didn't have any issue
44:48
with them. They got aggravated me for
44:50
nothing. We squashed.
44:52
All of that, we talked about it and we squash all of that and a
44:55
lot of the people in the internet doesn't like it but
44:58
they forget that I'm a Christian and I practice forgiveness, like
45:00
me and you haven't always been on good terms.
45:03
I mean, the chocolate atheist is one does another scenario when
45:06
me and you was going back and forth and we end up having a rap
45:09
battle only end up, squashing it after that.
45:11
So, yeah, you know what I mean? Christians, forgive.
45:14
That's what we all know. That's what we Do.
45:15
Well I'm totally willing to work things out for those out there
45:19
that don't know what went down was.
45:22
I was supporting Shanty and rub trying to help them out because
45:25
they are always having problems with getting canned on YouTube.
45:29
Well rub came into my room one day and I went to go do my usual
45:34
old, man. Got to use the restroom, French
45:36
vanilla situation. Well, I made the mistake of
45:39
leaving Bond Health in the room with Reverend Vaughn.
45:42
Helton's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, right?
45:44
You men. So he is, he just as.
45:49
So what happens is that Rob had people walking around in the
45:53
background and apparently, his son was walking around 12 on
45:57
being a dumb old man that he is ands up saying.
46:00
Hey, that's a good-looking woman back there.
46:02
I don't know why he decided to say that, but he did and I
46:06
wasn't in the room to moderator do anything.
46:09
I was off doing some taking a break?
46:11
Well Shanty and Rob got mad at me because they're like, why you
46:14
got this? This pervert in your room and
46:16
all that and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute,
46:19
what's going on? It wasn't until after they left
46:22
the room and then put stuff all over the Internet about what a
46:26
jackass. I am for allowing bond to be in
46:28
their head. They talk to me.
46:30
I would have told him look, I'm sorry, I didn't know he was
46:33
going to be stupid like that. So if you get a chance to tell
46:36
him, my thoughts are not. Maybe things can get worked out.
46:40
Who knows? Cool, I'll do that.
46:42
I'll pass on pass that message but I'm going to Dressing
46:45
archean. Eon have a lot on BTR, on my
46:48
blog talk radio, show, and some other topics one there because I
46:52
believe that I've been going about dealing with these people
46:54
in here, the wrong way for too long.
46:56
And I think I need to just start addressing some of the things
46:58
that they're saying with receipts to show people that get
47:01
that just in general. The majority of the stuff that
47:04
comes out of the mouths of these haters on here, they're just
47:07
lying, and I know they're lying because I know what I have and
47:11
they know what I have, and they know that if I show it to
47:13
everybody, you'll be exposed With Liars.
47:16
So I'm going to do that on BTR. Now, that you told me about this
47:18
other site, if that's true, I'll probably use that site to the
47:23
Odyssey site. Oh, you're gonna love it and
47:26
besides you can also use it to back up all your channels.
47:29
All your videos, sync them up real quick.
47:32
It's you're going to love it. I guarantee you can be like that
47:35
fright Keen is awesome. He saved my life.
47:38
I got you two premium. So I downloaded most of the
47:41
channel, some of these videos on your I can afford to lose but
47:44
some of the Videos. Because I can redo them and make
47:48
them better than the originals. Like, for example, what is it?
47:51
The what is it mean? Atheist left - I think it is
47:55
where I went to the, where I went to the cemetery or
47:58
whatever. Not only can I do that but I
48:00
back access to funeral homes, where I can actually put a book
48:04
in a casket. You know what I mean?
48:07
And if they go that route when I want.
48:09
So that's how dead they are on here.
48:11
Honestly, Brett was the last time you talked to any event
48:13
Evangelical atheist. What's a?
48:15
The last time, an Evangelical atheist showed any type of real
48:19
credibility on here to be able to sway and change people's
48:22
minds. There was no no that's
48:24
non-believers that come on the show but it's usually guys like
48:27
Aiden and Adam and they are usually very respectful and we
48:32
can have pretty decent conversations and all that they,
48:35
but they used to have never been wild and mean like the other
48:39
ones are they don't have a chip on their shoulder but yeah, it I
48:43
do notice a big difference. It seems like atheists are more
48:47
interested in becoming woke nowadays.
48:49
I don't know if you notice that when I called The Atheist
48:52
Experience and then the line with Godless engineer a woman
48:57
secretary on both sides ends up, ask me, well would you like your
49:01
pronoun to be? I said, I'm a big fan of
49:03
science, I only believe there's male and female.
49:06
I do consider and have respect and compassion for the mentally
49:09
ill. But I'm a male.
49:11
So, they didn't like that, though.
49:13
They're like, oh, that's wrong. That's Not what science says,
49:16
science has never said, there's all kinds of other versions of
49:19
male and female out there to hell.
49:21
They talkin about the experience, is on his last legs.
49:24
Let me give you a hint. You see The Atheist Experience.
49:27
You know how Matt Dillahunty is allowing guests to come on
49:30
there. I don't think Matt Dillahunty.
49:31
He's doing background searches on the people that he has on his
49:33
channel and he's always talking about how the morality of
49:36
atheism is superior to Christianity.
49:39
I'm gonna keep letting him bring these people in these channels
49:41
and then I miss are questioning him and asking him, for example,
49:44
why is he Partnering with people who are pedals, why are you
49:48
partnering with partnering with people who support a condone
49:51
racism, why are you supporting stalkers on the internet?
49:54
Like those are the kind of people who have actually been on
49:58
The Atheist Experience and the more mac and vice these, random
50:01
people wanting to show takes pictures with these people in
50:03
the show. The worst is going to be for him
50:06
when it's time to expose him again.
50:08
So listen, this is what this is what this guest did.
50:10
This is what this guest did, this is what this guy's did and
50:13
never mind the fact that Matt's a swinger.
50:15
Or and decided that what did he do?
50:18
You lost some other man asleep with his wife or whatever?
50:21
I think that's what yeah. Oh boy.
50:26
I will destroy. A child rapist to get up on his
50:40
show. That was one of the reasons why
50:41
he got banged on so bad. It's rough age.
50:45
Man, that you want to do something real quick.
50:47
I was telling you about that Odyssey, it takes literally five
50:51
seconds. Click a button to start backing
50:53
up your videos right here, right now, once you how it works, I'm
50:58
actually cooking it now to take a look at it.
51:00
I see you won. There is this, just like YouTube
51:03
is the same format. You don't got to pay to be on
51:05
your nothing. It's better.
51:07
It's better. You'll get monetize right away.
51:09
You'll start making you some money.
51:11
It's got high definition. Got the ability to stream Scott.
51:15
Even more stuff than what any rev about it.
51:19
Let me tell them about it right now.
51:20
Hold on. All right.
51:21
I got my phone number. He was the one that gave the
51:26
suggestion real quick. Nobody can hear this
51:30
conversation. All right, fair enough, fair
51:33
enough. Adam, why aren't you in here
51:35
for? What's the problem you allergic
51:37
to awesomeness or something? What's the problem?
51:41
Not to come in here and chat with us all brat.
51:45
Yeah. What's up there fella?
51:47
That guy passed our anacin, he's back.
51:51
I seen him on a life show, little bit ago with this one guy
51:56
talk about what all he preached and stuff.
52:02
You did, huh? Yeah, he passed her hands and
52:05
he's crazy guys. Ian want where he got?
52:08
So upset an assault preaching. He jumped on the What is called
52:14
The Thing You Preach at all toe diem?
52:18
Yeah so did I? Yeah he actually jumped up
52:21
there, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, I'm Pastor Anderson,
52:28
Steven Anderson, he's another one of them people that need to
52:31
go to Odyssey and he was videos over there and all that YouTube
52:36
YouTube can't handle some of the roughness that comes out of his
52:39
mouth hoof, he can be rough. He's still be friends with Can
52:44
horrible and map. I'm not sure.
52:49
Now, with who map pollen can opal.
52:54
Why? I believe he still.
52:56
I believe. He's so.
52:56
So did you break? They said thank you Brett.
53:00
No problem, no problem. Let's are you coming on cam?
53:04
Because when you do, I'll put you back on the big screen.
53:06
If you like, there we go. You get to run the place.
53:10
Yeah, here's the sheriff in town.
53:13
Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind.
53:15
But do me a favor. There's some people that might
53:18
Out of coming here to try to annoy me.
53:20
So if I don't talk to them and I don't answer under their
53:23
questions, that's one of the individuals, you'll hear me say,
53:25
I don't want nothing to do with this person or whatever and I
53:27
won't. And I won't I'll either leave or
53:30
you got to kick them. There's only like, two of them.
53:32
That's not a whole bunch of if I let somebody in G-Man, the way I
53:37
see it. As you are a guest that is
53:40
respected. You don't want somebody in here.
53:42
You just say that piece of trash needs to go and it's okay.
53:47
If I can do it, I can do that. Yeah, I'm not going to let
53:50
somebody come in here and harass the hell out of you.
53:52
If people want to come in and have a respectful discussion and
53:55
it gets passionate, that's fine. But if you're in here to just
53:59
tell us we all got big nose and weird-looking heads.
54:01
No, we ain't interested in all that.
54:03
We're beautiful. I know one thing near one of my
54:07
jobs. There's a fan of the drunken
54:10
peasants as they ask a lot of questions about you when I talk
54:13
when I talk to them, and they asked me a lot of questions
54:15
about when the next time I'm going on there.
54:17
But Also agree with me that the peasants got boring when they
54:20
got ability to fridge billion. Fridge is actually hurting the
54:22
show. I hoping it.
54:25
Well, it's because they don't engage each other, been will say
54:29
some crap. And then I'll kind of looked and
54:31
wait for somebody to jump on and he's got to like demands,
54:34
somebody actually Express their opinion, Billy's eating too much
54:38
Donuts. His brain is turning into donut
54:40
grease. He don't know what the hell he's
54:42
talking about half time. He's nice, but he's not an
54:45
intellectual discussion type of know what I mean?
54:48
Do you believe that that argument that that fight or
54:50
argument that he had with Pauly? Paul's Eagle was fake.
54:54
We think that was real. I'm sure it was probably fake.
54:58
I mean, let's be honest. Billy the fridge and palsy go if
55:02
they were to actually get into it with each other.
55:05
Paul's ego would would have had his ass whipped.
55:08
I mean, come on. I do even though Billy ain't the
55:11
brightest, our sharpest knife in the drawer.
55:13
I think he could beat the piss out of palsy go.
55:15
Now even break a sweat. Yeah.
55:18
Because Billy the fridge like like like when I first saw it
55:21
before, I went on the peasants to finally talk to him.
55:23
He He looked all gangster and like he was from the hood when
55:28
he was dealing with palsy. Go when I was looking at it and
55:31
when I finally went on there, I said, I dare you to try that.
55:34
Crap with me, I dare you because that ain't going to work with me
55:38
because he was like, acting all Hood because he had a bandana on
55:42
acting, like he was all hard. He was so tough.
55:45
Please just do. You don't know what it means,
55:47
act hard and act tough. You just don't know.
55:51
It's hard for me to look at Billy to Fred's in any of those
55:54
guys and go man. These guys are tough.
55:56
These guys would survive a day in St.
55:58
Louis, I don't think so. When I look at Billy to fridge
56:02
and I know this is probably gonna end up on DP, but he looks
56:04
like I like a fat version of Weird.
56:07
Al Yankovic. Hey, Brett the summer, I want to
56:10
come and meet you in person. Well, what do you want some
56:13
barbecue or something? We do that down here.
56:16
No, I think it would just be great if me and you showed up on
56:19
camera because there are some people on here.
56:21
That's where I went to meet Matt Dillahunty in person and some of
56:24
these other people and I don't I would like to meet you and and
56:28
there's a couple of other YouTubers on here that I want to
56:30
meet at that. I think that would be great.
56:32
I don't got an issue coming to Missouri, but do you really have
56:35
a goal? What is a agoraphobia or
56:38
whatever you really have that? I do.
56:40
But there's people with different Extremes of it.
56:43
There's some people can't even walk out of their door because
56:46
they get so freaked out and have been xiety.
56:48
But sometimes I'm actually able to get on highways and go
56:52
places. If I know I'm going super far
56:54
somewhere. Like if I'm going to go to
56:56
another state, visit someone or family member then I usually got
57:01
to do something to sedate myself.
57:03
So that makes sense to relax myself.
57:06
It's really like a trauma of severe, depression that needs
57:10
medication. Do you like six three six four.
57:14
Six foot four. Okay yeah I'm a I'm a a shooting
57:21
guard in the NBA. I can hit a ball with a bat and
57:27
everything like that. And throw a football like a good
57:30
quarterback but comes basketball, dude.
57:32
I just can't get it in the hole, all right?
57:35
Maybe we can do that. Then we can throw the football
57:37
come out there this summer. And we can see the little
57:39
football and get on camera and to do it in an Area where
57:42
there's trees and structure and all that.
57:44
That's the only way the agoraphobia works out.
57:47
I don't know if you know what happens when a person has an
57:50
agoraphobia attack. Have you ever heard of it?
57:53
It feels like, it feels like you're a equilibrium goes loose,
57:58
and it looks like the world's turning upside down on.
58:01
You could you imagine being out in an open area and the World
58:04
Turns Upside Down? You feel like you got nothing to
58:06
grab onto. That's why that's so freaky.
58:10
All right, all right. But we got to go somewhere
58:12
because I'm not coming in your house.
58:13
We are you like Chinese food? We got a Chinese restaurant down
58:17
the road, and a steak house and all that.
58:20
I've got that steak house, I'll buy you a T-bone steak.
58:22
Well, there you go, I like porterhouse myself but I'd
58:25
definitely go for a T-bone sure. Yeah, yeah, I'll get you a
58:28
T-bone. I got a problem with that.
58:31
But I'm yeah, this summer, I'm going to do some traveling and
58:33
I'm going to visit several spots on YouTube because these people
58:36
in you to swear, I won't come to their own towns.
58:39
And and like I said, a lot of them about to get a rude
58:41
awakening because my thing is this, if I made things personal,
58:45
let's make it super personal and let's meet each other in person,
58:49
you know, any good, this internet stuff after a while, it
58:52
gets kind of old signing meeting person.
58:53
You know what I mean, Gmail. Tell you what?
58:56
When you and the Reverend Shanty go to Odyssey.
59:00
Guarantee even though they're feeling horrible about what
59:03
happened to him, they're probably going to see this as a
59:05
blessing, a blessing because this this is definitely the
59:10
platform. They can go for a bond.
59:12
Was that one that actually told me about it?
59:14
I was like, dude, I don't want it to another social media site.
59:17
Come on. He goes, no, man, it's good,
59:19
it's good too good. I'm gonna happen, but it turns
59:22
out, awesome, man. And I can actually do my some
59:26
future shows that I want to do. Now, tell me something.
59:29
What's the terms? And the terms of Service on this
59:31
one. How is it different from from a
59:33
Odyssey from YouTube? Well, one of the things is, I
59:38
don't know how to explain it, but it works and chains and all
59:41
that, we're pretty much the site does its own thing.
59:44
So there isn't no like moderators who are going to try
59:47
to knock you down. Now, the only problem is with it
59:51
is because it is just open Free Speech, do whatever you want.
59:55
That means that some people could go over there and make
59:57
ignorant videos as well, but you I won't ever see them unless you
1:00:02
go looking for them. Well I'm not going to look for
1:00:06
them and like I said, the best thing I ever did here on YouTube
1:00:09
is when I stopped watching certain YouTube channels on
1:00:11
here. It's the most healthiest thing.
1:00:13
Mentally for me they're not listen to their nonsense.
1:00:15
Is coming out of your mouth, especially when ninety percent.
1:00:18
Ninety eight percent of the stuff coming.
1:00:19
Out of their mouth is lies. Yes, my name is G-Man.
1:00:22
Yes, I'm 5 11. And yes.
1:00:24
I'm very confrontational. That's all they get, right?
1:00:27
Because after that, it's a bunch of malarkey coming out of your
1:00:29
mouth. Let me make sure that this is
1:00:32
actually a demand, not some kind of soft account, hold on one
1:00:37
second. And it is that the guy is that
1:00:39
the guy who came on the peasants with us.
1:00:41
Yeah. For the first time.
1:00:42
Yep. Hold on a second.
1:00:44
But up the blocker real quick. What do you think of that?
1:00:46
Isn't that something? All right.
1:00:50
Hey Brett it's it's the real Adam lore.
1:00:53
Hey your voice sounds great today.
1:00:55
That is wonderful. Family reunions how you doing a
1:00:59
man talk to you in years doing all right.
1:01:00
How you been? All right, I haven't talked to
1:01:03
you since we went on the drunken past.
1:01:04
Yeah I think that's probably the last time I talked to you.
1:01:06
Huh. The drunk?
1:01:07
Yeah, pissant. Yes, guys.
1:01:09
I'll be right back in a moment. You guys talk for a little bit.
1:01:13
That was fun, right? That was like, one of your first
1:01:16
because you kind of started, doing wraps and stuff.
1:01:18
Did you start doing like rat? Like you were on the drunken
1:01:21
peasants? A while for quite a while like
1:01:23
after that or before that I went on air for the first time with
1:01:27
you and Brett and okay, yeah, that's what I thought.
1:01:29
Yeah. Yeah.
1:01:30
And then they took one of my raps and tried to make fun of
1:01:33
me, but instead of meet me insanely popular because people
1:01:35
started getting caught with the on his own 1, 2 and 3 and and I
1:01:44
went on the drug offenses, I thought the Jaclyn Glenn
1:01:46
thunderfoot. It's all So, like a Dusty Smith
1:01:49
quite a few times. Oh, nice.
1:01:51
Yeah, yeah. It was cool because I use them
1:01:55
as a as a means to be able to talk to these more popular
1:01:58
YouTubers and them. It was fun.
1:02:01
It was very productive. Cool.
1:02:04
So you're not a fan of Billy the fridge, then you said absolutely
1:02:07
not. No leader, fridge is not see,
1:02:09
here's the thing. I look at is really cool.
1:02:12
All right, good, he has cool moment but he thought he, he
1:02:17
does a poor job. Of of showing that he's an
1:02:19
intellectual. I don't respect anybody on the
1:02:23
drunken peasants being intellectuals.
1:02:25
I looked at those guys is being entertainers period, if I got
1:02:30
into a caddy conversation with them about something, don't get
1:02:32
lost in the shuffle. You know, well I never got the
1:02:37
impression that Billy was presenting himself as this
1:02:40
intellectual type but I don't watch the show that often so I
1:02:43
don't know. Yeah, no Billy's a rapper and
1:02:47
Bill. He's afraid of me.
1:02:48
I made two wraps against him. He didn't do anything.
1:02:51
The first one I did specifically for him, one that not because we
1:02:55
he literally made a rap. Bout me.
1:02:57
On the drunkle pebble, we should have effort into it because when
1:03:00
I did my rep, I absolutely destroy them.
1:03:02
And I only went 45 percent on his behind.
1:03:05
If I went 100%, I would hurt his feelings straight up because
1:03:09
that because I was learning what you didn't like to hear, and
1:03:11
that's what you're supposed to do.
1:03:12
When you battle rap, some money. The second thing was is I did
1:03:17
eight years old three and I mean, a couple of lines about
1:03:21
him, you know what I mean? What did I say?
1:03:23
I said that um, I said Billy different stop running from a
1:03:26
fight, it's only stack or two. Just don't take it at night
1:03:29
while you're at it Billy. Do a push-up or two pigs in the
1:03:32
wild, shouldn't be healthier than you.
1:03:34
And then when I said that, I had a picture of the Amazing Atheist
1:03:37
are so you didn't like that too much.
1:03:40
And then I meet one very specific for him.
1:03:43
I called I call it the ability to fridge.
1:03:44
Oh bitch. choa rewrap and he hasn't talked to me since Old is
1:03:52
behind. All them.
1:03:57
See I can't freestyle. He'll get the freestyle thing
1:03:59
all day every day, but you give me an hour and a pen.
1:04:02
I'll destroy him. You know, sure, yeah, yeah.
1:04:07
So, none of these guys, on YouTube can deal with me in
1:04:10
Iraq. None of them.
1:04:11
Absolutely. None of these, dudes.
1:04:12
I'm not saying that Eminem. Can't destroy me.
1:04:14
I'm not saying like, I ain't cocky like that.
1:04:16
But as far as these atheists, please, some of them.
1:04:19
Some of them don't even know how to Don't you know how to make a
1:04:24
beat? No less actually rap against
1:04:26
you. This guy named Lubitz who made a
1:04:31
rap against me and I'm gonna respond to it to that.
1:04:34
I think it's Village is going to get hurt, they don't know.
1:04:39
We're wrapping is about me is about dissing people.
1:04:42
It's not about trying to be funny and make people laugh.
1:04:47
You know, me and Brett key, did you see our rap down?
1:04:53
When was that? Oh boy.
1:05:01
Either. 1928. Remember seeing that.
1:05:04
Yeah, me and Brett was have, was brought rapping to like he was
1:05:06
rap rapping in response to what you had said.
1:05:09
Oh yeah, no, Brett went first, if you want to hear it, you want
1:05:13
to hear you. Give me a second if I see it, I
1:05:16
might remember. But that doesn't sound familiar.
1:05:19
Hold on. And I got to give you the
1:05:20
YouTube channel where it's being done, and then I'll give it to
1:05:23
you. It's all my channel us, O Lord.
1:05:26
Again we go, it's all my playlist.
1:05:28
If you go to my YouTube channel and go to my playlist and look
1:05:31
for the That's that's where it is.
1:05:33
You can see breaking, okay, right, everybody.
1:05:36
A lot of people liked it because but the thing is Britt stole,
1:05:39
somebody's littering press Till Somebody lyrics City and hey
1:05:46
buddy. But he tore it up though.
1:05:48
You did a good job? Making look like he did it
1:05:50
though, but I did one right after that one and it wasn't
1:05:53
nice. But I'll give you the link.
1:05:56
It's on the end of this year's, like feuding at the time.
1:05:59
Like, you were not being really With it.
1:06:01
Yep, it's on the individual situation Channel.
1:06:06
Let me, let me give you this link here right here.
1:06:08
Hold on. You'll be able to see it.
1:06:13
Me and Brett laugh about it now, but I'll put it here in a
1:06:15
private chat for the link. You want to watch it.
1:06:18
It's right there. And yeah, Brett made a rap, and
1:06:23
I need a response to that one. I quote, the Brett situation,
1:06:27
rat, the braking situation wraps and it was pretty good.
1:06:31
I took a couple of things that you said about me personal
1:06:34
actually made a rap about it. One day me and break.
1:06:41
He's got to perform that live. If he still remembers the words,
1:06:44
don't you think you guys are sorry.
1:06:49
What me? I think me and Brett kingship
1:06:52
should perform that rap live with no music.
1:06:54
Sure. Yeah I think a lot of people
1:06:56
would like that because I know all the words by heart.
1:07:01
His rap. I know some of his, are you
1:07:04
listening to it now? Well, are we able to play on
1:07:07
here? We have to wait for Brett to
1:07:08
return. Let's wait to breadcrumbs and
1:07:09
get it's because you could share it.
1:07:12
Yeah. Isn't it looking a private chat?
1:07:14
Well, I don't want to share it if without improving its all my
1:07:18
channel. I have it in my playlist.
1:07:22
Well if you want to do it, go ahead.
1:07:23
Well I'll just wait. Yo yo this is for you is all
1:07:28
about you. It's going to hurt, it's going
1:07:31
to burn. I'm a lyrical rapist.
1:07:34
You are a little wrinkled hack. Anyway, that's what Brett said.
1:07:36
So that was his whole thing.that's.
1:07:38
What a princess. You gotta see it.
1:07:43
I know that Brett not too long ago.
1:07:45
Did a little like a Kent hovind remix.
1:07:49
Oh, he did. I don't I think he did just like
1:07:52
a little bit of a spoken intro, and then it was just like
1:07:56
Because like a rap beat and then just taking clips from Kent.
1:08:00
So it takes a lot of courage to put one of those together
1:08:04
Brett's. Not like a rapper or anything
1:08:05
like that, but he, he definitely show.
1:08:07
He's got more Talent than some other YouTubers on here.
1:08:09
I do it, that's for sure. Yeah, this guy on here, cool,
1:08:15
Midwest guy and lubis and this other guy named Todd who want me
1:08:20
to respond to the racks. I'm going to put it all together
1:08:23
into one little mush. Let my audience here at
1:08:26
Absolutely obliterate. Those guys.
1:08:31
They got to be a lot of fun. But let's see what these guys
1:08:36
are saying. Alright, I am back, you guys
1:08:39
miss me. No need for Applause, right?
1:08:42
I was actually talking about the rap battle.
1:08:43
That means you had and private chat.
1:08:46
I put the link there. You're wrapped in a replica me.
1:08:49
If you want, you can show your audience rapid to do.
1:08:52
You want? Here, might sounds like it
1:08:54
became a little muffled. You might want to give it a tap
1:08:56
or something like that. So, you were showing off the rap
1:08:59
battle now. Yeah.
1:09:01
Great, you had to link. The link is right there in the
1:09:04
private chat. What do you want me to play it
1:09:10
or something? Yeah, let people hear what you
1:09:12
said about me. Yeah, let's see.
1:09:19
Okay, I'll try to you're supposed to be disrespectful and
1:09:23
rats. Yeah, it wasn't one of those
1:09:27
Will Smith raps. That's for sure.
1:09:30
Let's see what we got. I think the audience would
1:09:33
appreciate it. All right, let me, let me see
1:09:36
what we got here. Adam loved when I say that.
1:09:40
He's a rapist. You're a little recoil hack.
1:09:45
I don't know if you mean, I don't know if the music's going
1:09:48
to play good through the audio though or nests.
1:09:54
There we go. Somebody took my light, you
1:09:56
know. All right.
1:09:59
Let's see. Okay, share screen.
1:10:06
All right, here we go. Are you sure?
1:10:08
Want to hear it. Yeah, I got a problem with it
1:10:10
break. You said some stuff in it but
1:10:12
it's all right. Give me the the give me a thumbs
1:10:15
up if it sounds. All right, when we're playing
1:10:17
it. All right.
1:10:18
All right. Gotcha.
1:10:20
All right, let's see what we can.
1:10:22
Always download it and put it on your string, yard and use it as
1:10:24
a short, if you want. That's true.
1:10:26
That's true. Here we go.
1:10:30
Here we go. Okay, here in Austin.
1:10:44
Are you ready? It's Gonna Hurt.
1:10:46
It's gonna burn. Oh, what happened?
1:10:56
I'm going to come down to the Laughing.
1:10:57
You don't know shit, son. You don't know.
1:10:59
Fucking jackals download. It sounded the only way you'll
1:11:05
ever get a woman. Wait, the doctor gave your whole
1:11:27
family of SmackDown. Yo, The Village called in one
1:11:33
factor idiot. Rain, rain, rain.
1:11:38
Let me slide it right into the toilet in the house.
1:11:55
Became a king here. Looking for a mother to be
1:12:00
better to call the paramedics. Has my lyrics, only insult King,
1:12:08
there ain't no fucking beat me. That's right, stand back, as I
1:12:12
take my swing. I was talk to you with my words.
1:12:16
I'm a little confused. You want to go toe-to-toe with
1:12:20
me Stefan into the ring. You walk away with your brain.
1:12:26
Emotional plane. Yeah.
1:12:32
One. Here it is.
1:12:33
What it is. That is what is with your sound?
1:12:38
Really fun of you ever owned a giant photo of you to scare away
1:12:52
the birds. Leaving blast out your music to
1:12:56
the slaughter. You got no class.
1:13:31
Boom. Bright bright screen, share it
1:13:36
again, and then read the comments, because you got a lot
1:13:38
of compliments on it. Read the comments on the one
1:13:42
that video, and a lot of you want me to download the file.
1:13:46
No, I want you to screen share the rap again, and then look at
1:13:49
the comment section. They complimented you are
1:13:52
because I didn't make my rap yet.
1:13:53
At that time, I didn't make my rap response.
1:13:58
So you want me to screen share the comments?
1:14:01
Yeah, so that people can show people can see how many
1:14:04
compliments you got when you did your thing and what I was saying
1:14:07
after you did it was was that you took the lyrics from MC.
1:14:11
Somebody I forget the guys name or whatever but I mean, there's
1:14:15
a lot of positive, a lot of positive comments are.
1:14:19
All right, let's see what we got here.
1:14:20
Is able to see the comments clearly.
1:14:24
Yeah, I can see them. Let's see.
1:14:26
What Oh shit. That Keynes a magnum, opus
1:14:29
literal rap. Wild energy.
1:14:36
I seem from the manatee and years.
1:14:38
Holy Ship, right. That didn't had that in them.
1:14:42
Why the fuck didn't he make this mean?
1:14:44
Thing to minutes farmers, use a photo of you to scare away the
1:14:49
birds. No, my gourd surprisingly good.
1:14:56
No God, it was good. I mean a lot of people
1:14:59
complimented you when you did your rep, you know, my defense
1:15:03
that was that you use somebody else's lyrics feed and keep the
1:15:07
rules or whatever. But I enjoyed having a rap
1:15:10
battle with you. I'm not even an answer to put my
1:15:11
rap on here because this is about you, but I'm glad you had
1:15:16
the courage to do it. You know what I mean?
1:15:19
You'd be surprised. How many of these guys in here,
1:15:21
don't got the guts to even try. You know, it's sad.
1:15:25
It's sad. No, I enjoy doing the beat and
1:15:29
all that but I don't know. I guess I don't have the
1:15:33
vocabulary to do a rap song. That's nice sound in there.
1:15:36
Whatever I got to do insults in order to work it.
1:15:41
What does it you supposed to do? I try to explain to these people
1:15:44
that they're going to have a rap battle with me.
1:15:46
They need to insult me. Yes, it's live vehicle.
1:15:49
It's very alive. Yes.
1:15:50
The whole purpose of having a rap battle is for you to insult
1:15:54
me to put me down. You get permission to do that.
1:15:57
The only problem is that I get to do the same thing and if I
1:16:00
have a lot of information on, you got help you God help you
1:16:05
because the more people you got about a person easier, it is
1:16:07
distant. You know, why do you think it is
1:16:10
that people weren't willing to do rap battles with the?
1:16:13
I don't get it. That's fun.
1:16:14
It's fun. Seeing people do challenges.
1:16:16
I tried getting my brother to do guitar battles with people and
1:16:20
he's like, oh no, no, no, no. I just like bro.
1:16:23
You're a prodigy. Tear it up when he wouldn't do
1:16:27
it. No, people don't want to do it
1:16:29
with me. I think because Actually, I
1:16:33
don't know why they don't want to do it with me.
1:16:35
I have my own personal speculations.
1:16:38
I think they know that that that I'm not, I don't suck at it and
1:16:43
I can actually go about saying what needs to be said to get the
1:16:47
point across, you know what I mean?
1:16:50
I'm not, no, professional rapper, but I do know how to
1:16:52
diss someone. So I thought, if I just don't
1:17:01
understand people who can't, At least try.
1:17:04
If someone tries, I give them an a for effort, but they just
1:17:08
like, like a slug. Just climb under a rock or
1:17:11
something. I don't like that.
1:17:13
You want to know who my favorite was, and you might remember her
1:17:16
from back in the day Eve, real with my absolute favorite.
1:17:19
They go back and forth with. We went three rounds, me and
1:17:23
Hebrew Eve. See the one who made me the way
1:17:28
I am today, man. Because I bet that atheists
1:17:30
owned, one, the first one. You know what I mean?
1:17:33
I was off beat and it wasn't all that great.
1:17:35
But when I, when I have to battle evil the first time I
1:17:37
battle her she beat me and if anybody wants to find that rap I
1:17:41
haven't downloaded like uploaded to my channel again or you can
1:17:44
go on the drunken peasants. If you know the year that I did
1:17:46
the rap battle, the drunken peasants still have that rat
1:17:49
theyíve did. And that's honestly the best one
1:17:51
to this very day. As anyone's ever made against
1:17:54
me. The second one is when I got eat
1:17:57
because I stopped the and I said that point, I wasn't trying to
1:18:00
convert her at that point. I think at that point I was just
1:18:02
looking to be a So the second one was alright and then the
1:18:08
third when she did well I think the graphics was better but I
1:18:11
think I got her with the lyrics so she is really good with the
1:18:17
Bible. How come you don't make like
1:18:18
Bible wraps or something. I'm going to be doing that.
1:18:22
I'm going to make. I already announced that I'm
1:18:25
working on atheist poem to you where where I did the whole get
1:18:28
down on your knees and get on your knees and start to pray and
1:18:31
read your Bible and do what it says I'm going to be doing.
1:18:33
A sequel to that one. And I'm going to be doing
1:18:34
another one. We're just going to strictly
1:18:36
Bible and you going to be no dissing anybody or anything like
1:18:39
that. You should do something.
1:18:40
Like if you get an atheist in a rap battle with you say, oh this
1:18:45
slug thinks he was hit by lightning on a rock just a big
1:18:48
pile of snot, you know, get into the whole Evolution thing on
1:18:52
him. I'm thinking about doing I'm an
1:18:55
Atheist Experience diss track but particularly on that
1:18:58
Dillahunty focusing on him and his bald head and is aging and
1:19:02
how he's afraid that the Me and everything.
1:19:04
I'm thinking about just dealing with him, just making ones
1:19:09
exclusively about him and ripping him apart.
1:19:12
Didn't he said he was a swinger. So maybe in the rap and
1:19:15
somewhere in the lyrics a finally, you know something
1:19:20
about Matt. Dillahunty gets to see his wife
1:19:22
be with a real man for the first time Ye Olde was kind of cold.
1:19:28
So he's living his life, I'll be laying and I'll be laying in my
1:19:31
bed standing next to his wife. Wife kissing her face.
1:19:34
Well actually I mean shut up appropriate but I can do that
1:19:38
than that though and have a lot of fun doing it because I'll put
1:19:41
her face on a whole bunch of inappropriate things.
1:19:45
You know, I'll destroy Matt, Dillahunty about over focus on
1:19:49
him. Yeah, that would have anyone.
1:19:53
You know, what do you think about that Adam?
1:19:55
I'm Matt Dillahunty being a swinger this handing out of his
1:19:59
wife like that and that kind of rough I don't have any opinion
1:20:04
on him, but I didn't realize that.
1:20:07
Well, let's let's say about swingers in general.
1:20:10
We don't have to bring Matt Dillahunty in it.
1:20:12
How do you feel about that about men or women?
1:20:14
Who are Cox? Is that still cuckolding?
1:20:20
If it's if you're a swinger Well, isn't it?
1:20:24
Well I guess in order to be a cock you have to actually sit
1:20:27
there. Take pictures and watch though,
1:20:28
right? But how do you how can a person
1:20:31
do that? If you truly love someone and
1:20:33
care for someone, why would you like give that person you love
1:20:38
or respect over to someone else to do that too?
1:20:41
Well I think it depends on. I was actually it's I was my
1:20:45
coincidence. Just watching a documentary
1:20:46
about this about these. What do you call a polyamorous
1:20:51
relationships? Where I think there's a big
1:20:53
difference between being in a relationship and it's an
1:20:57
agreed-upon consensual thing that it's polyamorous versus if
1:21:02
someone's doing it without an agreement or consent to it.
1:21:06
That's that seems like two very separate things.
1:21:12
I know, but even if you consent to it and all that that has to
1:21:16
cause psychological problems that you see what it did to Will
1:21:19
Smith and his wife agreed that they could do that, and then
1:21:23
whenever she went and did it, it got all slap-happy and Chris
1:21:27
Rock. Adam, are you okay over there
1:21:29
with your mic is this it's got this weird sounds like a jet,
1:21:33
right? A launch.
1:21:36
Yeah, I don't know. You do sound stronger on the mic
1:21:40
though, for sure. What do you think about that
1:21:43
G-Man? If you're in love with someone,
1:21:46
how can a person do that whether it's consensual or not, be like,
1:21:50
oh yeah, go ahead. Just go out and bang any man,
1:21:53
you want. Well, I'm obviously against open
1:21:57
relationships and as far as apologies go one woman's enough.
1:22:02
My wallet hurts thinking about a second one.
1:22:05
So that's how I look at it. The open relationships and
1:22:09
people having multiple having multiple wives.
1:22:12
Good way to get STDs. Having multiple migraines and
1:22:16
living a shortened life span. That's how I feel about it.
1:22:21
Biblically speaking, I believe is sent only nobody shot
1:22:24
multiple wives. Move.
1:22:28
I just don't get it. They don't get it looks like we
1:22:31
got somebody in here named Daniel.
1:22:34
Let me put up our thing so we can make sure we're not a messed
1:22:37
with Oig, man. If you have any ideas for some
1:22:41
T-shirts, I'm pretty good at it. Take a look at this.
1:22:45
There we go. Wow, wow.
1:22:47
Hey Daniel. How you doing there?
1:22:53
Well, thank you, sir. It's raitis must go against my
1:23:23
cholesterol is right. I'm too old for all that.
1:23:29
My ears don't quite hear the way to use to if you speak a little
1:23:34
silent, ER, or a little bit of quieter, I might be able to
1:23:37
understand what you're saying, okay?
1:23:40
Somebody called ghani raised, you know, this person.
1:23:45
No. All right let's put up a, let's
1:23:48
put up my coffee mug then this time.
1:23:51
Hmm. Wow.
1:23:52
I think hello glad you appreciate your informing
1:23:59
intellect there pal. All right hoof.
1:24:03
Very loudly when they say he loves God TV radio show.
1:24:06
Wow. Now these are non believers that
1:24:10
are coming in and screaming racial epitaphs and all that
1:24:13
that doesn't seem Like, it's very what is it called?
1:24:17
Oh yeah, rational logical reasonable.
1:24:20
And it definitely doesn't feel like a humanist.
1:24:22
What's the problem? You know, the last time you hurt
1:24:25
one of them, use the word logic? Come on, last time you hurt one
1:24:28
of them use it. It's like a magnet.
1:24:34
Just knows the last time an atheist gaming here and argue
1:24:38
for logic and reason and evidence they don't believe in
1:24:42
that stuff. No more.
1:24:43
We clobbered them and it Rita babies.
1:24:46
So I hear you there. Well let's hope that a praise.
1:24:50
I am comes and hangs out with us once they get their stuff
1:24:53
working. Oh, I don't know if this is the
1:24:56
real Aid and we got to make sure whole darn.
1:24:58
Oh, oh, there we go. Let's put that up.
1:25:03
Is this, the real Aiden is, this is really fucking me?
1:25:10
I know it's great. I know what you got to do, what?
1:25:13
You got to get them. Going for now on.
1:25:17
That's hateful. That's hateful.
1:25:19
It isn't has killed more people. Let me, let me put that back up
1:25:23
for you. Go ahead.
1:25:24
Yeah, thank you. Atheism has killed more people
1:25:26
than all the religions combined, highest suicide rate.
1:25:30
Hi! It's substance, abuse war, and
1:25:32
serial murderer. Killing Joseph.
1:25:35
Stalin. Killed his own people.
1:25:38
Here's Kelly Ward. Here's a few more Mal, 50
1:25:42
million dead Stalin, 34 million dead Hitler, 20 million dead,
1:25:46
Leopold, 10 million, dead, Hideki 5 million dead linen for
1:25:53
million bit Pol Pot, two million bit, Kim King jungle Ken, Jeong
1:26:00
junha Mingus to whatever the heck is name is 1.7 Million
1:26:06
Dead. Elbrus news, I guess 1.5 million
1:26:11
debt if it was a murderer. So I tell you some murderers.
1:26:16
Check out this one. This is one of my favorites.
1:26:19
Yeah the more I studied is the more I believe in God, Einstein
1:26:24
Yay, right. Hey Adam.
1:26:28
Do you still believe that it takes a certain amount of Faith
1:26:31
to believe in evolution? I think that most most people we
1:26:37
interact with our just going by an argument from Authority and
1:26:40
popularity, they don't believe in evolution because they've
1:26:44
analyzed the evidence. They just are convinced of it,
1:26:48
but I think that darwinian Evolution and In evolution is
1:26:55
something that that's what you tend to see people supporting.
1:26:58
And I think it's insufficient to explain what's what's going on?
1:27:04
I don't know how I have a lot of questions about Evolution.
1:27:07
I have I have questions that need answers.
1:27:11
Don't go on YouTube, the attempt, and that back, you can
1:27:13
talk to Erica and even talking to her, don't waste your time
1:27:16
asking these YouTubers because these days, all they care about
1:27:19
is drama. They forgot how to do science.
1:27:21
I think I do think that were very process going on.
1:27:27
Guys, I got one more person. Hello Aries, 106, how are you?
1:27:32
I'm sorry. Oh I heard it about to happen.
1:27:37
I just sensed it. I sensed it.
1:27:40
Hold on a second. Oh yeah I got their IP that
1:27:44
time. Sorry.
1:27:47
No more screaming and yelling and top of your lungs there.
1:27:49
But T he's right. You guys continue on.
1:27:53
I apologize this. We had someone backstage, I had
1:27:56
to see what was up so what are some of the questions that you
1:28:01
have about Evolution there? Mr. An Adam.
1:28:04
And that's one thing I've always liked about him.
1:28:07
He is one of the most open-minded intellectuals are is
1:28:10
the non-believers are lucky to have on my plan and taking him
1:28:13
away and bringing him to our side.
1:28:16
Yes, yes, let's do that. I think one of the biggest
1:28:19
questions is how did or the the event that's referred to as the
1:28:25
Cambrian explosion needs an explanation.
1:28:27
The the concept of evolution is taught as gradual change over
1:28:33
time But what is observed in? The fossil record is billions of
1:28:37
years with essentially, nothing happening and then in the blink
1:28:41
of an eye, every existing phylum is suddenly fully formed on the
1:28:47
scene seemingly completely out of nowhere and then no new file.
1:28:53
Ohh. Develop after that.
1:28:56
So I think that's the biggest outstanding problem and
1:29:00
Evolutions like that, that to me needs an explanation.
1:29:04
And with that the same basic idea of, if the claim is that
1:29:08
there's this long drawn-out, gradual change that results in
1:29:12
speciation, and new Geniuses and stuff.
1:29:15
Why is that not what we observe in the fossil record?
1:29:18
What we observe is long periods of no change or very little
1:29:23
change. And major gaps and just sudden
1:29:28
you know what I mean. Like you have a totally diverse
1:29:32
new type of animal and there wasn't in other words like it
1:29:36
should be transitioning the whole damn time for for hundreds
1:29:41
of millions to a billion years. Not just mostly the same then
1:29:45
suddenly it's fully formed you know things like that.
1:29:48
I think we got we got a person back thing person backstage and
1:29:54
That is a good point. Where did all this variety come
1:29:57
from? Seems pretty wild.
1:29:59
Let's see. This is hello.
1:30:01
Daniel melon. Des.
1:30:03
How are you today? It sounds like won't wall.
1:30:20
Try again. What about and sounds really
1:30:26
muffled, sir. You're going to have to probably
1:30:30
head off the Walmart. Get you in a nice twenty dollar
1:30:33
microphones. I can't understand the, I'm
1:30:35
sorry, I heard organ. That's all I heard.
1:30:39
I'm sorry. Alright, let's try to do
1:30:43
something else. Go get you a new microphone.
1:30:45
I love to have you So what do you think about?
1:30:50
What a Adam Adam was saying just a moment ago?
1:30:54
Well, me personally. Yeah, what's your thoughts on
1:30:56
it? Well, everybody's got their
1:30:58
different. The different reasons for, not
1:31:00
sure, for not scientifically trusting.
1:31:03
Evolution without any faith, involved or whatever.
1:31:06
You know, where me personally, it has to do with the has to do
1:31:10
with this clean that were related to everything and how
1:31:13
you get new Anatomy from these you know these small changes and
1:31:17
they can't scientifically explained that they attempt to
1:31:20
use really big words which confuses you and they don't and
1:31:23
they Break it down for you to understand.
1:31:25
And then when you do talk to someone who understands what
1:31:28
they're saying, everything that they're saying is false cannot
1:31:31
be proven scientifically or you have to just accept it by faith.
1:31:37
I don't know how you can say I'm related to grass and our DNA is
1:31:41
different. Well, I myself Gmail I have no
1:31:44
issue with us having similarities with things.
1:31:47
I don't have a problem with us, they sharing a lot of the same
1:31:51
code work with the nature and the If some Beyond eclis with
1:31:55
the environment as well as other creatures, my problem is when
1:31:58
they tell me that I come from a rodent, or a slug or any of
1:32:03
these weird ass things and stuff.
1:32:05
So I believe when a game developers creating a game, he's
1:32:07
going to program things using a lot of the same material and
1:32:10
coding. That works for me with God, but
1:32:13
this coming from a rodent thing. What am I a druid I think,
1:32:18
intelligent intelligent design is a better explanation overall
1:32:22
and I think intelligent design neutralizes the evolutionary
1:32:24
argument because it didn't, then they can't, they can't argue
1:32:27
similarities all the time. No, you have a common designer
1:32:31
that uses the same stuff to create us and we have
1:32:34
similarities because we have oxygen, you know, for the living
1:32:38
things or whatever we have you know and we got to be able to
1:32:42
breathe in order to live. Got to be able to drink water.
1:32:44
We got to be able to eat Granite our mouth and our know.
1:32:47
In our eyes might be on something.
1:32:49
You know, on these animals might be somewhere different but the
1:32:52
designer did it that way so that they could survive in that and
1:32:56
in a particular environment and that is a better explanation for
1:32:59
me. Then, you know, you telling me
1:33:02
that I'm related to Grass. Will you tell me?
1:33:04
I'm really into a rat? And then there are no fossils to
1:33:06
prove it. You know, let me ask you
1:33:10
something Adam with what kind of variables and the environment
1:33:15
creates Limbs and anatomical structure, like an arm, the
1:33:20
shoulder, all these kind of things.
1:33:22
Where is this extra information coming from?
1:33:24
And when they talk about natural selection, choosing these
1:33:27
beneficial mutations, where the hell did the mutations come from
1:33:31
in the first place for natural selection to say, ah, tasty.
1:33:36
What we do, we do observe, I don't know if you guys both
1:33:40
believe in microevolution, but a lot of Christians and theists do
1:33:44
believe in so-called microevolution where there are
1:33:47
some minor changes in adaptations and stuff.
1:33:50
That's observed. As far as I understand, is you
1:33:53
can observe these things in Laboratories and speciation and
1:33:56
stuff. Well I got no problem with that
1:34:00
part of it. It's where they're starting to
1:34:01
claim that we go from a completely different creature.
1:34:05
Like, Like a damn whale turning into a dog, like alligator
1:34:09
looking thing off Pokemon and then it decides one day, I the
1:34:13
hell with that. I'm going back in the water.
1:34:16
This is absolutely psychotic to me.
1:34:18
Yeah, so that's that's actually a good example of something that
1:34:21
I think is really questionable in the standard version of
1:34:26
evolution is the evolution of cetaceans whales and dolphins
1:34:30
and stuff that supposedly started in the ocean came out,
1:34:34
became these like who've died. Animals and then went back in.
1:34:37
It's just I don't think that there's been enough time.
1:34:40
I don't think it's supported by the evidence.
1:34:42
I think that if you look at the fossil record whales and
1:34:47
dolphins seem to be much more closely related to ichthyosaurs
1:34:52
and plesiosaurs and stuff like that and basically they show up
1:34:57
in the fossil record around the same time that ichthyosaurs went
1:35:01
extinct. So I'm sort of suspecting
1:35:03
something like that, but Brett you asked how does mutation and
1:35:07
natural selection explain these new like like going from say a
1:35:11
fin to to a leg or something? And I don't think that that's
1:35:16
darwinian evolution is actually Darwin.
1:35:19
I don't know if you know this Darwin didn't even have mutation
1:35:21
in genetics and stuff. He just had right variation and
1:35:25
selection he didn't even have mutation in there.
1:35:27
So neo-darwinian evolution is mutation mendelian, genetics
1:35:32
selection, things like that. You need.
1:35:35
National features, you can't explain it which is that you
1:35:38
need. There's epigenetics.
1:35:40
Now there's evo-devo like you have you have to keep adding
1:35:43
stuff on to Darwin because it's really insufficient to explain
1:35:46
it and I think even with the new eight to ten things are adding
1:35:50
on, you still can't get to these questions of Origins.
1:35:54
How did the information get there in the first place?
1:35:56
How did life originate and how did these file just burst onto
1:36:02
the scene? So it's like suddenly so
1:36:04
quickly. These are the questions that
1:36:07
are, it doesn't even seem like they're trying to answer them.
1:36:09
They just say, oh well, that's not even part of the theory or
1:36:13
something. But I do think that like, I sort
1:36:18
of suspect that once you do find an answer, there's going to be
1:36:22
Evolution involved in it. I don't know that evolution is
1:36:25
the full story though. I don't think that it's
1:36:28
definitely not just mutation and selection resulting in all this
1:36:32
not possible. There hasn't been enough time
1:36:35
the To record contradicts gradualism.
1:36:39
It doesn't work and it doesn't make any sense.
1:36:43
Like you need, you need a lot of stuff added to it and you need a
1:36:47
lot of modifications of it. What I'm started.
1:36:51
The stuff that I've never really was that interested in biology
1:36:54
and evolution until pretty recently because I became like
1:36:56
obsessed with Dinosaurs recently.
1:36:58
So kind of led into this interest in evolution, but what
1:37:02
I'm starting to see in and starting to suspect is it seems
1:37:06
like if as you look back, you have these animals that have
1:37:10
mixed traits that kind of have mammal-like traits and
1:37:14
reptile-like, traits and bird-like traits like kind of
1:37:17
all mixed together and the car, the common ancestor explanation
1:37:24
cannot explain why Triceratops has elephant like features
1:37:29
rhinoceros, like features Turtle, like features,
1:37:32
reptile-like features bird-like features But supposedly is only
1:37:37
related to reptiles like it just it's insufficient to to explain
1:37:43
and they chalked it up to convergent evolution.
1:37:46
It just is a coincidence that, that bats and pterosaurs happen
1:37:53
to both evolve, The Identical same Wing just in two different
1:37:57
places. Just coincidentally came up with
1:38:00
the same exact thing like things like that.
1:38:02
I am very skeptical of these claims Of convergence when you
1:38:07
see so much similarity between some of these animals and I
1:38:12
thought they also have got, we got the else.
1:38:15
We got somebody else wanted to come in, let me all right,
1:38:18
hello, serious business. Serious business, you're up.
1:38:24
What's up? Are you going to say something?
1:38:32
All right. Okay, back to our conversation.
1:38:36
Sorry about that folks is want to make sure people got in.
1:38:39
How do you explain all so Adam, what's your thoughts on this?
1:38:43
I know you're questioning things too.
1:38:45
But while the creature is going to this transition of allegedly,
1:38:49
grown itself some wings, which I wish I could grow some wings,
1:38:52
that would save on gas and also car insurance if I could fly.
1:38:56
But what's the how was the creature surviving if That crap
1:39:02
hanging off of it that hasn't fully formed into a wing yet.
1:39:06
Oh. So um, it really depends on
1:39:09
which animals you're talking about whether it's Birds bats
1:39:14
pterosaurs flying fish insects but in the case of at least for
1:39:22
some you can you can see how just like webbed fingers or
1:39:27
having a webbing between your arms and your the side would be
1:39:31
advantageous in for swimming for gliding like jumping off.
1:39:36
A tree and gliding down like flying squirrels, you can go on
1:39:39
YouTube and look up bats swimming.
1:39:42
Like they're there are advantages to to starting to
1:39:46
gain partial flight. If you look at flying fishes,
1:39:50
that's another thing you could go look.
1:39:51
Up on YouTube where fish can't just fly around all over the
1:39:56
place, but a flying fish could be chased by a predator
1:39:59
underwater and then it zooms up out of the water and kind of
1:40:04
fly, sort of flies, half sort of half flies and floats away.
1:40:10
And it's, it's an advantage to be able to partially fly.
1:40:14
They can escape predators and sort of Zoom away for a little
1:40:17
bit and kind of flip it around to where they're kind of getting
1:40:19
away from. Predators chasing them in the
1:40:22
Aquatic environment. Now they're in the air for a
1:40:24
period of time and the Predator can't really see exactly where
1:40:28
it's going to land and stuff. But actually at the same time,
1:40:30
they get the the birds swooped down and try to eat them too
1:40:33
soon. But, yeah, there aren't.
1:40:35
There is an advantage to have these partial, like halfway
1:40:39
transitional things, the problem though is, you don't have a
1:40:43
whole lot of fossil evidence of a transition.
1:40:46
There's no fossil evidence of the transition of some kind of
1:40:49
rat to a bat. They claim that Bats came from
1:40:52
some kind of something like a mouse or a shrew or something,
1:40:55
but there's no evidence of some intermediate.
1:40:59
There's no intermediate between some kind of mouse and something
1:41:04
like a bat, like not even a little bit.
1:41:05
There's not even like slight partial webbing or anything at
1:41:08
all. So, Is on the one hand, I think
1:41:13
that yeah having intermediate stages is an advantage, it can
1:41:16
be an advantage for sure, but where is it in the fossil
1:41:21
record? Bats?
1:41:22
Just come out of nowhere. It's like they Evolution as
1:41:27
we're told cannot be true. If bass just left no evidence
1:41:32
whatsoever of evolving. So I could you imagine what it'd
1:41:37
be like being a squirrel bad or whatever?
1:41:40
Then things are before, it's actually got things formed.
1:41:43
I mean what did they do? Climb up to the top of the tree
1:41:45
and say, hmm. Let's see if this is going to
1:41:47
work. Is you know, if it doesn't it's
1:41:50
going to suck, right? So who was the first squirrel
1:41:54
bat? Monster that decide to make the
1:41:56
jump. Make the leap of faith.
1:41:58
Back, are you going to come in or you just gonna sit here and
1:42:01
stare at how beautiful we all are Looks like we got this is
1:42:06
not a work. I think it's got to work.
1:42:11
Let's see if mr. Mozell or whatever his name is
1:42:16
has got working yet. You got a new audio system.
1:42:19
Okay? Do you hear me know?
1:42:21
Yeah, you cuz it work better? Yeah.
1:42:24
How you doing? What's going on with you?
1:42:27
Thank you for asking. I'm using another phone so I was
1:42:32
using ear buds. At first, I just wanted to point
1:42:35
out about the whole dinosaurs thing.
1:42:37
I do believe that the dinosaurs were created by God, they were
1:42:44
part of the wood the creatures who are putting in the arc.
1:42:48
But that the devil hybrid some animals, like chicken and a
1:42:54
lizard. And I heard that lizards through
1:42:58
Kent hovind that they live, you know, back in those days you can
1:43:02
move on to a thousand years and got ahold of chickens.
1:43:07
I just ate one of them. No I said I said, Kent hovind
1:43:13
said he pointed out that lizards if I said that in those days
1:43:21
that people could live a thousand years, right?
1:43:24
But if you think about it, If that's the case and lizards just
1:43:29
keep growing and growing and growing a chameleon could turn
1:43:32
into what we know as the Triceratops.
1:43:34
So that makes sense to me. Thought I'd point that out.
1:43:39
All right. Well, that would explain one of
1:43:41
the reasons why people back in ancient days thought that there
1:43:44
were dragons and all that, right?
1:43:46
If you got some kind of big little diamonds are real too.
1:43:50
Well if you got some kind of big ol, lizard monster grown wings
1:43:53
so I can fly and turn into a bird like what non-believers
1:43:56
some of them claimed Revolution, you see something like that
1:44:00
transitional. You know, I Dan that's a dragon.
1:44:03
What do you think about that, Adam?
1:44:08
Yeah, I think that it's too much of a coincidence that cultures
1:44:12
all around the world that supposedly weren't in contact
1:44:15
me. I'll believed in dragons.
1:44:19
I think it's more likely that they observe who's Adam dragons
1:44:24
Jesus. Are you operating a, some kind
1:44:28
of 1972 computer over there. Get the hell out of here until
1:44:32
you get that fixed. Go ahead, Adam.
1:44:33
Sorry about that, like, I think that they just saw Dinosaurs and
1:44:38
pterosaurs and Komodo dragon, fossils and things like that.
1:44:41
And that's what they call those creatures, they called them
1:44:45
dragons. And I mean, we even used the
1:44:49
term Dragon to this day for some of these species commode Komodo
1:44:53
dragon, because that's how we kind of describe these things.
1:44:59
So, yeah, that's that's what I think.
1:45:01
I don't know. So what do you think about that?
1:45:05
I mean, if there was any truth to reptiles being able to turn
1:45:08
in some kind of bird creature G-Man, wouldn't that explain the
1:45:12
whole the whole Dragon thing though?
1:45:15
The Bible mentions that there's lots of cultures as Adam just
1:45:18
articulate articulated and they said they'd seen these creatures
1:45:23
that can fly Well, even if they did exist, like pterodactyls or
1:45:29
whatever, they would have still been afraid of humans and humans
1:45:33
would have still had Dominion on the earth, doesn't matter how
1:45:35
big they are or whatever. Why would you be afraid of
1:45:38
humans before humans actually had like firearms and all that?
1:45:42
There was a time where we were Easy Pickins?
1:45:46
Well, according to scripture, they were created to have a
1:45:49
certain amount of fear fearful us.
1:45:52
You know what I mean? And all that means is a respect
1:45:56
like even today if you go into the woods and you speak a bear,
1:46:00
isn't going to necessarily rush. You unless it has young is a
1:46:03
woman is a female and as young or whatever.
1:46:06
Most cases, all you got to do is speak and then they'll stay away
1:46:09
from you. Just don't got use, don't
1:46:10
surprise him or whatever Lions Tigers.
1:46:13
And a lot of these are the animals are the same.
1:46:15
They have a, they have a The ingrained fear for us humans.
1:46:21
You know, I believe the time is going to come when that when
1:46:24
that fear is going to be taken away.
1:46:25
And a lot of us are gonna be killed by these things much
1:46:27
larger numbers than they are happening right now.
1:46:30
But it doesn't matter if there were dinosaurs that was built as
1:46:34
big as a skyscraper or smaller than, as a Hut fact of the
1:46:38
matter is, is that is that these animals would have a certain
1:46:42
amount of fear for humans says, God gave us dominion over the
1:46:46
Earth. During the comic creation.
1:46:52
See you think in the beginning? They would have been cool with
1:46:55
us and all that, but they became aggressive later on.
1:46:59
Yes. Yeah.
1:47:01
But what's the fall happened once?
1:47:03
They started eating meat and everything.
1:47:04
Yeah, because I have a different idea about what they were eating
1:47:08
before. The fall.
1:47:09
Now G-Man, you really, really good with the Bible, but I'm
1:47:12
reading this guy's commentary says dinosaurs, never made it to
1:47:15
the ark. They were part of the Nephilim
1:47:17
that died, but the Bible does mention Chin later on after the
1:47:21
flood event. That Giants walked the Earth and
1:47:24
Deuteronomy that actually speaks of the king that it was a giant
1:47:27
king OG. So what what your thoughts are
1:47:30
now also had Goliath that that was in the land of the
1:47:35
Philistines. At that time not read the book
1:47:38
of Daniel and started the Book of Daniel you can read.
1:47:41
What is that? First Samuel, I think it is if
1:47:43
you want to if you want to read about it, but as far as
1:47:48
dinosaurs being on the ark, Yes, they were, there was a certain
1:47:53
amount of clean animals or certain amount of unclean
1:47:55
animals. And then, there was a certain
1:47:57
age, I could get, we're in Jena where Anna in Genesis, but it
1:48:02
says that as far as like the exact passes, but it talks about
1:48:06
that you were out there that that no one was supposed to
1:48:08
bring on certain animals. According to do with them being
1:48:13
young, in other words, you couldn't bring a skyscraper
1:48:15
dinosaur into the ark. You had to bring someone that
1:48:18
was young, you know, I mean, something that was maybe a year
1:48:21
or two old, you're too old or whatever and bring them on the
1:48:25
ark or whatever. You couldn't just bring bring
1:48:27
this at all. As animal, you can find it.
1:48:29
Whatever God was very specific about the animals that can come
1:48:31
on the ark. How do you, what do you think
1:48:34
happened after that? Where you have Like different
1:48:40
types of animals on different continents and marsupials on
1:48:43
Australia, and certain animals in South America, and stuff.
1:48:46
Like, how did they get? I think the quintessential
1:48:49
example, is given as how did kangaroos get over to Australia
1:48:52
and just or only on Australia After the flood.
1:48:56
Honestly, standing for truth will probably do a better job of
1:48:59
explaining that the melee talks about how when the flood
1:49:02
happened and how the pleats separated.
1:49:05
Because I think everything was everything was one big giant
1:49:08
continent at one point and that Gap, what they begin to separate
1:49:12
and I actually had a condom separated.
1:49:15
Yes, at the end of the flood that were still pretty close and
1:49:18
then as time goes on it separates out more, right?
1:49:21
Right. I think that standing for troop
1:49:23
has a. Yes, anybody who says he has
1:49:25
Model, we can actually prove and talk about that on the
1:49:28
scientific level, but I can't. It's not just sad, as far as
1:49:32
Kangaroos and all that. I was looking that up because I
1:49:36
got into a little bit of a comment argument with a guy, mr.
1:49:40
Jones, whom you've watched. And I looked it up because I was
1:49:43
wondering, is this true that dinosaurs are not dinosaurs by
1:49:46
kangaroos are just from that area.
1:49:48
Apparently, in the past, there were more and they were in other
1:49:52
areas and all that and I used to have something called the giant
1:49:56
kangaroo. Have you ever heard of this?
1:49:59
The giant kangaroo no never heard.
1:50:01
It's worth it was a big old. Big old thing.
1:50:04
I think it was like two stories. Could you imagine having
1:50:08
something like that jumping after you?
1:50:12
I know it'd be good eating. That's for sure.
1:50:16
My TV is no, the thing was huge, man.
1:50:18
Wooof So Adam, how do you explain from your perception of
1:50:25
you point? I've seen I know that if you
1:50:28
were to do a Google image about dinosaurs walking with manners,
1:50:31
there's a bunch of Photoshop, crap garbage, and some stuff for
1:50:35
people were definitely trying to sell nonsense, but there's cave
1:50:39
drawings where people drew Triceratops, which is a very
1:50:43
unique looking dinosaur as well as a T-Rex How did these people
1:50:49
if dinosaurs died? Millions of years ago?
1:50:52
Then how are people drawing these things?
1:50:54
Because, you know, just as well as I when we find fossils, it's
1:50:57
usually in pieces crumbs that they taped together in and add
1:51:01
some more crap later on in the museum.
1:51:04
So how the hell do these people know what these things look
1:51:06
like? Unless they seen them?
1:51:09
I just I'm not sure that those are accurate.
1:51:12
Like I don't know if those are forgeries or if they're more
1:51:14
recent they have cases where supposedly you have dinosaur
1:51:19
tracks next to human tracks, but they claim it's a forgery.
1:51:26
So I don't know. Some of those things I've seen.
1:51:28
I've seen like a depiction of what looks like a Stegosaurus
1:51:30
and when you look into it it's like that's You know it's like
1:51:34
it was this forgery that these guys were selling and stuff but
1:51:39
I don't really know. It's like how do you determine
1:51:42
whether that really was what it was or if or if that was just
1:51:45
something that someone made more recently to to make money off of
1:51:49
by scamming people, you know? It's a good point.
1:51:53
It is the internet. I tried to be hesitant whenever
1:51:57
I watch something or look at something and see this kind of
1:51:59
stuff. And I also know we live in an
1:52:02
age where people profit off of nonsense out.
1:52:06
That's true, it's true. But there is thousands and
1:52:10
thousands of photos. I can't be sure which ones are
1:52:12
true and which ones are absolute garbage.
1:52:15
You know, a lot of the criticisms that we get, you
1:52:18
know, with the Bible and how and why?
1:52:21
It doesn't explain And things were certain people, I'm always
1:52:24
curious to why people questioned certain things in the Bible,
1:52:27
because it are you questioning it to get a better understanding
1:52:31
of what Christians believe are you questioning it to make a
1:52:35
decision for yourself to believe?
1:52:38
You know, in the god of a in the god of Abraham, Isaac, and
1:52:41
Jacob? You know what I mean?
1:52:43
But a lot of people will come up with a lot of criticisms in the
1:52:45
Book of Genesis and no matter how many different times we
1:52:47
answer them, there's always in a problem.
1:52:53
I hear you there. I don't know what other people's
1:52:56
point of view was before. I had come an atheist.
1:52:59
Whenever I was a kid, I was fully on board, aren't things,
1:53:02
but I was just just a little bitty old runt at the time when
1:53:06
I became a non-believer, I can honestly say that I tore through
1:53:09
the Bible, to try to find everything that I possibly could
1:53:12
to disprove God, but it's kind of like the Einstein quote, the
1:53:16
more I look into it, the more things continued to show to me,
1:53:21
the more I looked into In Tazewell and hearing about how
1:53:25
our universe is almost like a mathematical simulation.
1:53:30
I just could not help to believe that there was some kind of
1:53:32
designer to it. I don't got no reason not to
1:53:38
believe in God. Some what some people will come
1:53:40
up to me and tell me which are proof that he exists.
1:53:42
And I point to the trees, I point to the grass and I'll
1:53:46
point to the animals and then if I ask them, why they believe
1:53:48
that God doesn't exist, they'll point to the trees that point to
1:53:51
The Grassman pointed. The animals, you know, it just
1:53:54
it just depends on how you view the world or whatever, you know,
1:53:57
how you view science and everything.
1:53:59
You know, I don't think that that a scientist can explain the
1:54:04
diversity of life. The way the Bible can the way
1:54:08
intelligent design does, and I think it tells you designed this
1:54:11
makes it very easy for people to understand or as Evolution.
1:54:15
This is a it's just a bedtime story, man, is there's no
1:54:18
scientific data to support it, not on a macro level on a micro
1:54:22
level. Maybe, but not, but not on, not
1:54:26
on a macro level. You gotta have a lot of faith to
1:54:28
believe that. I also noticed besides Evolution
1:54:32
and abiogenesis, the non-believers that are actually
1:54:36
completely familiar. And understanding of what, the
1:54:39
big bang is trying to claim with the universe.
1:54:42
They don't like it either because they know it's a
1:54:44
supernatural claim. The ones that really understand
1:54:48
what the scientists are saying they're like, nah.
1:54:50
Now you go with that and, and They get to keep their God to
1:54:54
Can't Go For That. Yeah, you don't got a scientific
1:54:57
explanation is Supernatural at that point and they need to
1:55:00
remember that. You know, they got problems with
1:55:04
that. That's why they can't run the to
1:55:06
the thing. No more.
1:55:08
They can barely run Evolution anymore to be honest.
1:55:12
Or you could be Matt Dillahunty, you can just deny everything.
1:55:15
Saying, I'm not convinced, I'm not convinced, I'm not convinced
1:55:17
thinking you won something, you ain't win, nothing?
1:55:20
Oh God. Here, a dinosaur with the big
1:55:22
back bad back turns into a goose, is that what I'm looking
1:55:26
at what's happening here? And that's what we're taught?
1:55:28
But look at the dates. This is the order we're taught
1:55:34
that this supposedly happened that you start with a dinosaur
1:55:37
then sort of a dino bird thing and eventually a bird.
1:55:40
But look the bird like dinosaur comes after the archaeopteryx.
1:55:47
The Bible says that God created the birds after their own kind.
1:55:52
Evolution says, they went from dinosaurs to birds.
1:55:55
I'm sorry, I'm sticking with the word of God.
1:55:58
Now, this doesn't make sense though.
1:56:00
Because the theory is that the theory is that either the
1:56:04
dinosaurs farted themselves to death, creating an unbelievable
1:56:10
ignorant-ass atmosphere, or they got killed by a space Rock,
1:56:14
either asteroid Comet meteorite, whatever the case.
1:56:18
What is this big bastard right here?
1:56:20
Ended up surviving under those kind of conditions, and how did
1:56:24
it have offspring that got smaller and smaller and smaller
1:56:28
and smaller to the point that you got a sparrow?
1:56:32
Is that work? I did the animals survive.
1:56:35
You know what I mean? Especially after the, you know,
1:56:37
the, I see the meteor, and all other stuff and whatnot,
1:56:40
everybody who believes this stuff, man.
1:56:42
Like give me a break. Come on now, no disrespect to
1:56:45
you, Adam, I'm just talking about the hardcore one.
1:56:47
It's well, I don't believe that. I don't like this.
1:56:52
What this chart shows it contradicts itself because we're
1:56:56
taught that Velociraptors are something like a velociraptor
1:56:59
became a dino bird and that became a full-fledged bird.
1:57:02
But Velociraptors came 25 million years after true Birds
1:57:08
after there was diversification of birds Velociraptors were
1:57:11
after that. So, There's a major problem with
1:57:16
this idea that these theropod dinosaurs turned into Birds.
1:57:21
I do think that that these types of dinosaurs and birds clearly
1:57:25
are closely related in some way, they're more similar than, you
1:57:31
know, they're they're, they're very similar animals.
1:57:35
They're related in some way, but it makes more sense to me that
1:57:39
some kind of either Birds turned into these Velociraptors or some
1:57:46
kind of Dino bird turned into birds and velociraptors or
1:57:51
something like that. You can't have it as it's
1:57:54
taught. It's contradicted by the fossil
1:57:57
evidence. And yeah, the, the meteor impact
1:58:00
stuff doesn't make sense in terms of.
1:58:03
Why would it kill off? Ichthyosaurs and dinosaurs but
1:58:08
not giant crocodiles and giant turtles and and all these other
1:58:14
reptiles like why would it kill just dinosaurs but not fish and
1:58:18
not like I don't know, it doesn't really have a full
1:58:23
explanation and I don't know if you guys know this, but if you
1:58:26
look into the chicks Loop crater impact.
1:58:30
That actually the difference between the date that they think
1:58:34
the extinction happened and Impact is not the same time.
1:58:39
There's a huge gap of time in between those two so they
1:58:45
couldn't have been killed by a an impact.
1:58:49
If it's like, A third of a million years afterwards or
1:58:53
something, or you know what I mean?
1:58:54
Like the extent if the extinction happens half a
1:58:57
million years later or something.
1:59:02
It's crazy. It's crazy.
1:59:09
I remember when I remember, when non-believers used to ask in
1:59:15
this was under a decade ago, but they would say where did all
1:59:18
this water come from and then scientist ended up showing that
1:59:22
there's over three to four oceans worth of water underneath
1:59:26
our feet and being that our planet is like 75 80 percent
1:59:30
water. Anyway, that was just literally,
1:59:33
we just need an ice cube to get a worldwide flood at that point.
1:59:37
I don't, I don't hear them even bother That anymore, so that's
1:59:40
good. What?
1:59:45
Now folks does anybody want to come in and join us?
1:59:48
I've been putting the link out. Looks like we got some people
1:59:51
have been doing some text and out there.
1:59:53
Yeah. I'm curious to both you guys.
1:59:58
Do you think that there was because both believe in a
2:00:02
creator that created the animals?
2:00:04
Do you believe that there were different stages?
2:00:07
Like in other words Genesis says day one, this happened to a to
2:00:10
this happens. Do you believe that those are
2:00:11
literal days or do you think that they were time periods?
2:00:15
Where first, they were Birds created over a long period of
2:00:17
time and then later on animals of the ocean, over a long period
2:00:21
of time and in addition of that, do you believe that?
2:00:26
There's any changing and developing and mixing of the
2:00:30
animals after that, or is it pretty much created as it is
2:00:34
from the start? And that's essentially what
2:00:35
we're left with or did they start with wolves and then
2:00:39
eventually get dogs out of it later without Supernatural
2:00:42
intervention. Un go 13.
2:00:46
Yeah, as far as I go, I go with the, with the traditional
2:00:49
understanding that he did in a six or six literal days.
2:00:55
That when he created the birds, he created them after their own
2:00:57
kind, when you create the decent to fill it was after the own
2:01:00
kind insects after their own kind.
2:01:02
Not now, that's not saying that you won't have an animal's
2:01:06
furred color. But, you know, with the little
2:01:09
micro changes that will happen over time or whatever.
2:01:11
That, as you won't go, from a grey mouse to having like, a
2:01:14
white mouse, or to having a mouse, that's slightly bigger
2:01:16
than some other monsters or whatever that I believe actually
2:01:20
happens. So 60 days animals, giving
2:01:26
offspring. That might look slightly
2:01:28
different from their parents, but still being that thing.
2:01:31
Like they always going to produce mice, always introduce
2:01:33
cats. Always going to produce dogs,
2:01:35
you know, etcetera, etc, etc. So yeah, I'm six literal days.
2:01:41
Oh yeah, one additional thing I wanted to hear just to add to it
2:01:44
is. Do you think that some like,
2:01:46
obviously birds are related to birds?
2:01:48
Do you think that We, as humans are more closely related to apes
2:01:56
or dogs than we are to fish or something like that.
2:02:00
Like like are we a type of mammal?
2:02:04
Are we a type of primate? Are we a type of like whether
2:02:08
you think we're animals? In the literal sense, is
2:02:11
obviously something very special about humans, but we do appear
2:02:14
to be at least mammals, right? Like, do you think that humans
2:02:19
are closely Later to certain types of animals and if so, is
2:02:24
there any explanation of why that would be?
2:02:27
That's an interesting question. I guess.
2:02:30
It depends on your school of thought.
2:02:32
There are some people out there that believe that that human
2:02:34
beings are mammals. I don't see.
2:02:36
Here's the thing, went, when you go, the intelligent design route
2:02:40
and I know I said this already, will you say that?
2:02:42
We're I said that, you know, we have the same creator.
2:02:47
That the same creator that made the dogs and the cats are made
2:02:50
the Lions, and the tigers or Wolves or whatever are the same
2:02:53
ones that made human beings, okay?
2:02:55
He's the same one that made. You chimpanzees, the monkeys
2:02:59
deal orangutans, he's the same one that made human beings and
2:03:03
we all have similarities. So I wouldn't necessarily use
2:03:06
the word Over relation but I would definitely go with
2:03:12
similarities because we gotta take in the same air.
2:03:16
We got to drink the same water and we got eat the same food so
2:03:20
we have similarities to animals. And I think that the difference
2:03:23
between the animal and human being is that we can we can
2:03:27
actually use logic. We can actually reason we can
2:03:31
think about things, whereas animals just act on Instinct.
2:03:35
A lot of the times. You know what I mean?
2:03:37
So it's an issue of the definition of what an animal is
2:03:41
the definition of a mammal, and then similarities with mammals.
2:03:47
You know. So I wouldn't argue relation at
2:03:51
all, but I would say that we're very similar that we have a lot
2:03:54
of similarities or rather these animals have similarities to us
2:03:58
humans. And there's a distinct
2:04:01
difference between us and these AIDS.
2:04:04
There is some unusual verses in the Bible that I've kind of
2:04:08
wrestled with. There's a couple times where I
2:04:11
God actually refers to us as creatures.
2:04:15
I don't know if you remember some of those, there's a verse
2:04:18
where it talks about dust to dust.
2:04:20
All things will go back into all creatures and all that.
2:04:24
And it actually appears as though it's referring to us as
2:04:27
that. The only difference I can see
2:04:29
between man, and animal is that we are made in the image of God
2:04:33
is where the animals are. However, if you look in the Book
2:04:36
of Psalms, that actually says that God will save the animals
2:04:41
as well as man he sees their lives.
2:04:43
Valuable, the only differences is.
2:04:45
We actually are the very representation of image, if I'm
2:04:49
wrong. Correct me on that.
2:04:52
I have an issue with that, have an issue with that.
2:04:53
What at all. And I don't even got issue with
2:04:56
me when we refer to as a creature.
2:04:58
But again, when they try to say that because we have so many
2:05:03
similarities With like apes that we are H ourselves.
2:05:08
And I think that's a bit of a stretch and I think you hit the
2:05:10
hammer and the nail when you said that we were made in the
2:05:13
image of God. These animals were not.
2:05:16
So looks like we've got Aiden in here.
2:05:19
Let me make sure it's actually him because somebody's been
2:05:21
using a sock account. Pretending to be all of our
2:05:24
buddies, here we go. Is that the actual Aidan?
2:05:28
Yes, that would be the actual Aidan.
2:05:30
I wish I was popular enough to have people faking me but no no.
2:05:34
Someone was whenever you were out there leaving comments,
2:05:37
somebody came in under Aidan I had the van their ass because
2:05:41
they started screaming some pretty disgusting.
2:05:43
Filth realized was I was also going to answer a lamorne.
2:05:47
Something, you would mention the time frame, I do believe that
2:05:51
God did things like this in the literal days, but there is
2:05:55
something that I don't hear a lot of Christians or theist,
2:05:59
talk about God, proves in the Bible that he has the ability to
2:06:03
lock up the Entire universe. If he wants to or the solar
2:06:07
system, he can literally freeze time being that he has the
2:06:11
ability to go outside of it and control it in some way.
2:06:15
So that's that's in the Book of Joshua for anybody that wants to
2:06:19
see where God locks up the solar system, it's pretty hardcore.
2:06:23
Totally rock star Welcome Aidan. I want to just ask real quick as
2:06:30
a follow-up to that just to kind of emphasize for both you bruh
2:06:36
and G-Man. Do you guys think that like okay
2:06:40
I'm not saying you have to agree that that humans are primates or
2:06:44
humans are apes or something that I'm not trying to press you
2:06:46
on that but humans clearly are more similar to a monkey.
2:06:51
For example like if you just look at a monkey's hand and a
2:06:54
human's hand We are more similar to a monkey than say a lizard,
2:07:00
right? And if I mean I think we can
2:07:03
agree on that. Well, I've seen people that are
2:07:07
similar to a moose and a cow as well.
2:07:09
It doesn't mean some even look like pig.
2:07:12
That doesn't mean I come from a pig cow moose.
2:07:15
Okay. That's a.
2:07:16
Then it also it's also you know the way you look at it.
2:07:21
See I believe that looking saying that we human beings have
2:07:24
similarities. These eight white creatures, the
2:07:27
downgrade, what we should be saying is that these animals
2:07:31
have similar to have similarities to us.
2:07:33
Okay. Sure.
2:07:34
Yeah. So my question is though, if
2:07:36
that is the case why are humans and monkeys some wire monkeys
2:07:44
similar to humans more similar than lizards are to humans.
2:07:47
Is there a reason for that or is it just that just happens to be
2:07:51
what it is? All right, so you don't know.
2:07:55
I got even created them to begin with.
2:07:57
I believe it was for his glory and for him for our enjoyment,
2:08:01
but I don't really understand why he created them to be
2:08:06
honest. So what about doing great?
2:08:09
I don't know why he created flies and then sucks, I don't
2:08:12
like mosquitoes that all roaches.
2:08:15
I read every time I try to go camping and I get hit by those
2:08:19
mosquitoes. I'm asking God, why God why?
2:08:23
So, what about really human-like species that are even closer to
2:08:27
us than things like chimpanzees or bonobos?
2:08:29
What about things like? Australopithecus things like
2:08:32
Homo erectus. Things like a homo Neanderthal
2:08:35
Alice. I've been home.
2:08:36
All right, bracket for almost like they never existed to me,
2:08:45
personally until an evolutionist prove that those things actually
2:08:49
existed with real science. Those are just words More
2:08:54
records. Never existed.
2:08:54
Homo the, the, the what was that?
2:08:58
The Nebraska man never existed, Lucy, never existed.
2:09:02
There's a significant difference in my data.
2:09:07
Sorry, my, my fiance came in over there.
2:09:11
Yeah. Sorry, my fiance came in and was
2:09:13
chatting with me real quick. I've always I've always wondered
2:09:19
if you don't mind me asking a question.
2:09:22
Do would you say as a non-believer you ever use like
2:09:25
Poetic language when in a relationship?
2:09:28
And what I mean by that is a Christians when we are with a
2:09:31
woman that we find, beautiful, or whatever.
2:09:33
We're married to one. We say things like, you're as
2:09:36
beautiful as an angel, honey. You are God's gift to the world.
2:09:40
You know, why--i was made last because God created The Best For
2:09:43
Last. So what do what do I do you say,
2:09:46
is it? Hey, biology really rocked with
2:09:49
you, the chemistry just happened as it should, we know, it's
2:09:54
funny. You say that?
2:09:55
Because if I said things like that, there I don't think she'd
2:09:57
mind because she's doing a major in biology.
2:10:00
So, but no taking what you said more literally.
2:10:04
Yeah, absolutely. We would use poetic language.
2:10:07
Would you say that I use poetic language with you?
2:10:09
My love. Yeah, she agrees that was
2:10:13
romantic. I got a tougher.
2:10:15
Question is, how does biology disprove?
2:10:17
The existence of God? I never necessarily said that it
2:10:20
just proves the existence of God.
2:10:22
I'll come out and tell you right now that I'm not one of those
2:10:25
people definitively saying that God doesn't exist.
2:10:28
You know? I'm not going to sit here and
2:10:29
say that there's no way that he exists.
2:10:31
I don't know. And I think that's the most
2:10:33
honest way of going about having this conversation is that I'm
2:10:36
not sure. All right, that's fair enough,
2:10:39
that's fair enough. But there are people have run
2:10:40
into that believes that the more we study biology, the more, we
2:10:43
study chemistry and what we study zoology, you know, I mean
2:10:47
in archaeology and we're going to come to this Grand
2:10:49
conclusion. You know what I mean?
2:10:51
That there is no God yet there are some really smart educated
2:10:54
people who are college professors scientists various
2:10:57
different fields where the more educated they become the more
2:11:01
and more they insist that God does exist, you know?
2:11:05
No, there's definitely, there's definitely Some people that do
2:11:09
exhibit those traits, I'm not going to deny that.
2:11:11
It does seem however especially in the modern sense of we're
2:11:14
going to talk about scientists that the vast preponderance of
2:11:17
scientists right. Now looking at statistics, are
2:11:20
non-believers are at the very least agnostic.
2:11:23
Now I'm not trying to make an appeal to Authority by saying
2:11:25
that that doesn't mean that we're any more or less right by
2:11:27
that but it just seems to be What You observe in the
2:11:30
scientific Community. What will we observe in the
2:11:33
scientific Community especially when it comes to biology is the
2:11:37
What has been done by a common designer at least the
2:11:40
fingerprints or the evidence of a common designer.
2:11:42
Because if we look at biology, if we look at stellar and
2:11:47
planetary Evolution, you know it's just a formation of thing
2:11:52
and its Origins we can't come. We can't rule out definitively
2:11:58
that there is no Creator. You just can't everything from
2:12:00
the Big Bang to so-called abiogenesis to, to biological
2:12:05
evolution. All that shows, is that Somebody
2:12:08
really smart, could have put all of this together, you know I
2:12:13
mean in that should be considered and it blows my mind
2:12:16
how so many people are afraid to have that taught in school and
2:12:20
just want people to be indoctrinated and that's what
2:12:22
I'm going to call it with this idea that we all came from
2:12:26
nothing you know is that anymore indoctrinating than the idea of
2:12:31
instilling and people that there was in fact a Creator and that
2:12:34
the world was in fact, made in six days and that guy.
2:12:37
God rested on the 7th or anything that is that is taught
2:12:40
to Children. Scripture wise.
2:12:42
Wouldn't you say that? That's just as indoctrinating
2:12:44
and I'm out there. I would say both needs to be
2:12:47
taught, both music perspectives that you think about education.
2:12:52
You looking at different points of views right now.
2:12:55
For sure. Like if I can use a examples of
2:12:59
this off topic, like I'm not going to teach everybody in
2:13:03
basketball. The triangle offense because
2:13:05
there are other offenses that you can actually Run.
2:13:08
There's West Coast, there's various different forms of
2:13:10
offense. You can play any in the NBA, but
2:13:13
all I did was teach triangle offense.
2:13:16
That's all anybody with use, you know, for sure.
2:13:19
So you're playing the same game. There are different.
2:13:21
Formations there are different defense.
2:13:23
Has their different things that you can do the same thing with
2:13:26
with the idea of the diversity of Life, tell people about
2:13:29
Evolution, tell people about how, you know some of the
2:13:33
theories that people have about how we came to be, but also
2:13:36
teach intelligent designer. How and how it is possible that
2:13:39
an intelligent designer all put us here, then you can allow the
2:13:43
person who's being educated to decide for themselves.
2:13:47
Once they receive all of the information to what they want to
2:13:49
believe. But when you just say that you
2:13:51
want biology in, that's it. That's indoctrination that that
2:13:54
particular point. No II could definitely ascribe
2:13:57
to that. I guess my only response to you
2:14:00
from an agnostic perspective, is that I don't necessarily see how
2:14:05
teaching the quraysh the Christian story.
2:14:07
Of creation is any more or any less valid than teaching, the
2:14:11
Hindu creation story or teaching the Buddhist creation story or
2:14:14
teaching, the zoroastrian creation story of teaching all
2:14:18
manner of different creation Stories, the issue with that.
2:14:20
Is this you don't gotta say it's the Christian story because if
2:14:24
you look at all of the different religions that have a Creator,
2:14:28
whether it be a deist or atheist position, they're going to say
2:14:33
that someone intelligent started it, and then you can explain
2:14:37
That position in school and then you can allow a student to make
2:14:41
up their mind, whether they want to take the DS position, the
2:14:44
theistic position. Notice I didn't put a brand or a
2:14:46
different religion on it, it could be a deist deific point of
2:14:49
view, theistic point of view and then as evolutionary point of
2:14:52
view a person is truly educated when they know all the point of
2:14:56
views. If all you know is evolution you
2:14:58
engaged to a conversation with somebody who's a deist or
2:15:02
atheist and you don't know nothing about the topic, you're
2:15:03
going to get obliterated. So it's best that you know about
2:15:06
these topics Before you try to say that you made an informed
2:15:10
decision. You'd be surprised how many
2:15:12
people are asking if I'm back? By the way, guys?
2:15:16
Do you mean you mind? If I ask your God question, I've
2:15:18
been looking all over the Bible for an answer for this.
2:15:22
And the only thing I could come up with is God's doing some kind
2:15:25
of Shifting around with time to be able to do this.
2:15:28
But let's say that I'm praying and you're praying at exactly
2:15:32
the same time. A thousand miles away.
2:15:34
In another million people are doing this and God, Is
2:15:38
responding in some kind of way. Is he able to respond to each
2:15:42
one of us at the same time? Yeah.
2:15:45
But if you thought yeah he can't.
2:15:47
Because he's omnipresent, he's everywhere at the same time.
2:15:50
There are a lot of things about guys nature.
2:15:52
I don't fully understand but when I hear that he's
2:15:54
all-powerful and that he's on my present, he is able to answer
2:15:58
people's prayers whenever he chooses to.
2:16:00
If he can't do that, then he's not God.
2:16:04
Yeah, it was good for her. Sorry.
2:16:06
Sorry. Brother didn't mean to talk.
2:16:07
Oh, Breather. I was about to say Adam unmuted
2:16:10
as might Mike there for a little bit.
2:16:12
It seemed like he was going to jump in.
2:16:13
So I'll respond to what G-Man said after.
2:16:15
Adam says what he wants to say? Go ahead, Adam sure.
2:16:20
Yeah, I think what I was going to say is in regard to whether
2:16:24
Evolution creationism or something else, should be
2:16:28
taught. I think just based on if you
2:16:32
want, if you want to be able to understand your world and who
2:16:36
you're going to Interact with, in the media, you're going to
2:16:39
come in contact with you. You should have an understanding
2:16:42
of what the Bible teaches and what creationism claims even if
2:16:46
it's not something you think is valid.
2:16:50
Just for the sake of like in other words, if you want to make
2:16:54
sense of what's going on around you in America and and the
2:16:59
history of our Western Civilization, you have to
2:17:01
understand the Bible. You don't have to know that much
2:17:06
about Buddhism. Or Hinduism to make sense of our
2:17:10
history and what we're interacting with.
2:17:13
So I think just based on that alone, there's justification for
2:17:19
if you are talking about biology to to bring up the Bible in
2:17:24
Genesis and creation and teach people, this is what a lot of
2:17:28
people in the world and especially in our country.
2:17:31
And historically have thought for what, four thousand years or
2:17:35
something. So now I think it's more Cancer
2:17:38
is not just arbitrary but that's a good introduction to how you
2:17:42
could go about teaching. And you could say you know for
2:17:45
the last x amount of years or whatever, this is what people
2:17:48
believe about how we got here. You know what, our purpose is
2:17:51
and everything. But this is what the this is
2:17:53
what a lot of biologists believe and you can, and you can explain
2:17:56
that to children and children are smart enough to make up
2:17:59
their own minds to decide what they want to believe based on
2:18:03
what they're hearing, you know what I mean?
2:18:05
But but for whatever reason, both sides seem to be afraid.
2:18:07
Fraid to allow a person to get this information to make their
2:18:11
own minds of. I I'm not afraid.
2:18:13
If somebody came to me and share it with me, abiogenesis
2:18:17
Evolution, some scientific explanation for something and
2:18:21
they provided evidence for it. And then I heard a claim where
2:18:24
God was involved in it. You know it's up to me to gather
2:18:28
that information and to make an informed decision after work and
2:18:32
you can't argue with facts. I mean obviously if they can
2:18:34
prove to you something its scientific and it can be done
2:18:37
right in front of You, you have to accept it as the intro.
2:18:40
Well II agree with. You both are not, but there is a
2:18:43
concern that I have. I don't know if you remember a
2:18:45
while back to you, man, whenever they wanted to remove God and
2:18:49
some of the materials and statues way from the courthouse,
2:18:52
The Satanist came along and argued that if you know the
2:18:56
Commandments get to stay around, they should be able to put a
2:18:58
statue of Baymont up, or Satan, or representation of it.
2:19:03
I'm concerned that if you, if we allow Christianity being a
2:19:06
public schools, That the Satanist and everybody else is
2:19:10
going to be want to do their thing.
2:19:11
Satanist are already. He and pamphlets and video
2:19:14
footage out the children and all that.
2:19:16
So, I guess the whole argument of, and even if we allowed
2:19:21
Christianity, be taught in school, who would do it a
2:19:24
Jehovah Witness or Mormon? What denomination gonna happen?
2:19:28
It doesn't have to be Christianity.
2:19:29
It just has to be the theistic view.
2:19:31
You don't have to give it a particular brand, you just
2:19:33
atheistic. Because again, if you look at
2:19:35
the different religions, a lot of things were Is have one thing
2:19:39
in common with us Christians. And that is that we believe that
2:19:42
a Creator created us. Even pagans believed this, the
2:19:46
Jews. Believe this Muslims believe
2:19:48
this to a certain degree, the Hindus believe this, although
2:19:53
they contradict the heck out of themselves as some other stuff.
2:19:55
But you know what I mean, you can say the theistic worldview
2:19:58
believes this biological evolution is believe this, and
2:20:02
this is why. And then when you present the
2:20:05
information to a child, which will person is going to Oh,
2:20:07
that's cool. They can make an informed
2:20:09
decision because they had all of the information of all you're
2:20:12
going to do is indoctrinate somebody with something and then
2:20:14
they go out into the world and interact with other people and
2:20:16
hear different ideas. They're going to feel like
2:20:19
they've been robbed and they've been lied to because it was more
2:20:21
information out there than what was given to them in school.
2:20:25
You don't like me like before I became a Christian when I went
2:20:27
to college, they was teaching me about it.
2:20:30
Maybe it was calling it fiction. It was calling it.
2:20:33
What were they calling it? They were calling it.
2:20:37
I forget the, the specific term but they was calling these
2:20:40
different religions fiction and they was too.
2:20:42
They were there was talking about like, the Greeks and it
2:20:45
was talking about the pagans and they were talking about like all
2:20:47
these different, you know, mythologies or whatever that
2:20:50
they were talking about. But when I listen to it I tried
2:20:54
to add it to history. Try to understand the culture or
2:20:59
the people came from. And then looked about, you know,
2:21:02
and compare that to our modern day world and tried to get a
2:21:05
better understanding. What was actually going on in
2:21:08
history but you can't do that. Once you got both the science
2:21:12
and what they believe that you need all of the information.
2:21:17
Are you there? I know some of you probably
2:21:20
thinking oh, wow, Brett's don't know keeping religion and
2:21:24
checkered. Have it be in schools or
2:21:26
something like that, that are religious and all that.
2:21:28
But I also there's a flip side this.
2:21:31
I also think things that are not actually historical or
2:21:35
scientific should be removed and put somewhere else because it
2:21:40
just simply doesn't have anything to it.
2:21:42
Evolution for one, I'm talking about species turning into a
2:21:46
completely different species. He's teaching the Big Bang
2:21:49
Theory, we have no way of actually being able to know if
2:21:52
that's a factor, not there, still people out there who
2:21:54
believe in an eternal state universe.
2:21:56
Religion is the religion of itself.
2:21:58
But I want to say this though, and and I want to talk about the
2:22:01
thing that nobody wants to bring up in here.
2:22:04
I'm making an argument for theism being taught to a certain
2:22:07
degree in our schools atheists are making Arguments for
2:22:11
biological evolution to be taught in schools, but people
2:22:14
got to understand something here.
2:22:15
When an atheist Is trying went. Okay, I'm not going to eat these
2:22:19
when evolutionists are trying to push evolution in schools, they
2:22:23
have an agenda what they're trying to do is create a secular
2:22:27
school system with a secular and in when he went to Gaza the
2:22:30
government, they want a secular government.
2:22:33
When they want to take God out of the home, they want a secular
2:22:36
home because they want an atheistic country.
2:22:39
You know what I mean? And those never go.
2:22:41
Well, just look at Joseph Stalin.
2:22:43
Go look at Mom. I'll go look at all the other
2:22:45
countries that attempted to do. That, you know what I mean?
2:22:49
And when you take away people's ability, or taking people's take
2:22:53
away, people's rights to believe in a God or a deity or whatever,
2:22:58
and you try to force nothing but science on them, you get
2:23:01
communist Russia, you get the Soviet Union.
2:23:03
That's what you get. You get Mi, you get Mass
2:23:06
murderers. That's what you get.
2:23:08
Okay animals in that same vein. What about the states that
2:23:12
preceded? Those States?
2:23:14
Like in many ways, I wouldn't say that they were any better.
2:23:16
Yeah, everybody. He likes to bring up communist
2:23:18
Russia but look at what the romanovs were doing to the
2:23:21
peasant population in Russia. Look at people like Tsar
2:23:24
Nicholas the second. You have events like Bloody
2:23:26
Sunday, you have the absolute disaster.
2:23:29
That was the russo-japanese war. You have all of these different
2:23:32
events that are heavily religiously motivated because
2:23:35
Russia really Imperial. Russia was one breath away from
2:23:38
an imperial like a theocracy the same thing goes for China.
2:23:41
With the Mandate of Heaven for the Imperial Dynasty of China.
2:23:45
They were religiously motivated because Believed in their belief
2:23:48
system that they were put in place by a Mandate of Heaven.
2:23:53
That that was what gave them their power in their legitimacy.
2:23:57
And that gave them the rights to commit all sorts of awful Wars
2:24:00
and awful destructions. Like, what I was talking about
2:24:02
on this last show, this taiping Rebellion, which thanks to the
2:24:08
Heavenly Kingdom of typing ended up resulting in the fourth most
2:24:12
destructive conflict in human history with through a Christian
2:24:15
Theocratic government. That was in place in China, you,
2:24:19
I don't know. If you've ever heard of this
2:24:20
G-Men, I look, I recommend you look up the, the Taipei
2:24:23
Rebellion, because it's actually a really interesting footnote in
2:24:26
Christian history, because a lot of people don't really associate
2:24:29
Christianity with China. But in the 19th century,
2:24:33
Christianity actually, amassed millions of followers in China,
2:24:37
under what many Christians. Now, would consider to be a
2:24:39
false prophet who motivated? These people to commit, massive
2:24:43
Warfare, massive, destruction, and death, all for the name of
2:24:47
the God. And this supposed Messiah that
2:24:49
they were following. Well again there's a difference,
2:24:52
there's a difference between Christians and non-christians
2:24:54
and that's a different topic. But I will say this goes back to
2:24:57
what I said earlier. I believe that the schools
2:25:00
should have both things taught and allow a person to make their
2:25:03
own minds up. That way, you get rid of all
2:25:05
agendas, you don't got the Christian side, trying to say,
2:25:08
we're going to make it predominantly Christian, and you
2:25:10
don't have the atheists. I'd say no, we're going to make
2:25:12
a predominantly secular and it worked because the individual
2:25:16
gets to make their mind up about What they actually want to
2:25:18
believe, but secularism and Atheism or not the same thing.
2:25:21
You're conflating them with each other a lot, but they are not
2:25:23
the same thing. One is not always the other.
2:25:26
I don't agree, I totally don't agree.
2:25:28
Well, you're somebody that likes them.
2:25:30
I believe that secularism atheism is the same because
2:25:33
atheism is supposed to be without God and they went and
2:25:36
they want school to be without God, they went on governments to
2:25:38
be without God, they want our money to be without God when he
2:25:41
went home to be without God, they went out children to be
2:25:44
without God, they want it totally secular or corn oil
2:25:47
coats. Dias.
2:25:48
I don't think that that's necessarily a fair argument.
2:25:51
What did you say? I remember one of the things
2:25:53
that I know about you G-Man is that you like definitions a lot.
2:25:55
You're really definition Centric guy or, you know, mmm.
2:25:59
I got the body given for you if you know, just just one moment.
2:26:02
Just one moment, reading the decade definition of secularism,
2:26:06
it is the principle or separation of the state from
2:26:09
religious institutions, which does not necessarily entail that
2:26:13
God should be removed from school.
2:26:15
The argument that a lot of people are making in In this
2:26:17
argument is not that student shouldn't be allowed to pray,
2:26:21
but rather that there shouldn't be teacher-led prayer in school,
2:26:25
that it should be the choice of individual students to pray if
2:26:27
they want to no one's asking for them, not to pray at all.
2:26:30
Maybe there are. I shouldn't say nobody.
2:26:32
There are almost certainly extremists on this end of the
2:26:36
conversation that say that nobody should pray in school,
2:26:38
but that's the vast minority of this of this argument.
2:26:41
They sit in my experience. So I don't know if I go along
2:26:45
with that Aiden because I can And we're G-Man coming from
2:26:48
here. It's the atheist who were
2:26:51
droughts in about the holidays and about religion anywhere near
2:26:55
any kind of institution or Association.
2:26:57
I don't see Christians out and streak on no way, we don't want
2:27:00
our Christianity thought the school.
2:27:02
So, yeah, it seems like an annually atheists who are crying
2:27:07
about it, go ahead. And if anybody actually go read
2:27:10
about what, how linen went about fighting Christianity, and how
2:27:13
stalling went about getting rid of religion, in the Soviet Union
2:27:16
is very similar As to what secularists are attempting to do
2:27:19
here in America. And I would not have known this
2:27:22
unless I got subtotal in it because unfortunately, for some
2:27:25
ironic reasons, our schools don't teach us.
2:27:28
Nothing about Joseph Stalin. And that's a teach us anything
2:27:30
about communism. I was shocked to actually figure
2:27:33
that out that almost none of our schools, teach what communism
2:27:37
actually is. If it's absolutely amazing, and
2:27:41
I think that's on purpose. Yes.
2:27:43
But you keep using these arguments of people like Joseph
2:27:45
Stalin, trying to get rid of eight Christianity within
2:27:48
Russia. But what in the very last
2:27:50
conversation that me and you had G-Man, you seem to reject a lot
2:27:54
of very fundamental principles that those Christians those
2:27:57
Orthodox Christians. But adhered to you think they'll
2:28:00
react, when was the last time we had a conversation.
2:28:03
The last time we had a conversation was the last time
2:28:05
you made an appearance on Brent show, and I was asking you about
2:28:08
it. A lot of Very fundamental
2:28:09
tenants of Orthodoxy, such as the idea that science are
2:28:12
capable of interceding in prayer.
2:28:14
The idea that The ecumenical councils as they occur, hold on
2:28:23
a minute, you're referring to the Roman Catholic Church.
2:28:26
Don't believe that. Protestants believe in praying
2:28:40
to, to the father of our Lord and our Savior Jesus Christ.
2:28:45
In his name, you understand that.
2:28:47
I'm not the only one mediator between God and men.
2:28:50
That is the man Christ Jesus, but as far as the argument that
2:28:53
you're making your army here, you're making arguments with
2:28:55
Roman Catholicism that's not that that has been proven for
2:28:59
the longest time to not be Christianity.
2:29:02
It is not taught in the scripture, it's not taught in
2:29:05
the Bible, and it is considered heresy and false teaching.
2:29:08
Okay. Okay, so that would be a
2:29:10
relevant argument that you just made there if I was talking
2:29:12
about Protestant Christians, but I never once said the word
2:29:15
protestantism at all in any of the discussions.
2:29:17
And that's why didn't you just know?
2:29:18
I'm not. You literally built a straw man
2:29:20
there by saying Brazil time and I let you talk.
2:29:23
All right there and relax. Relax, guys, relax, I'll be
2:29:26
right back. I let you talk.
2:29:31
I'd appreciate it. If you give me my moment,
2:29:33
please, I've never once said protestantism at all.
2:29:38
In what I was, Talking about, I said Orthodox because there is
2:29:41
similarities between Orthodoxy and Catholicism, but do you know
2:29:45
the difference between Orthodox in Catholicism?
2:29:47
Do you know that? And I know this, what you
2:29:49
brought up about Saints praying to dead people and not
2:29:53
Christianity. And I did not let me finish.
2:29:56
I let you talk. Yes, I'm sorry, I'm Tom, the
2:29:59
fact of the matter is that you tried to make an argument and
2:30:01
try to, I guess you were begging, the question to try to
2:30:04
try to argue that the argument that he was making was
2:30:06
Christianity. That's not Christianity.
2:30:08
Paganism disguises being Christianity.
2:30:12
That's what that is. And at the end, at the end of
2:30:15
the day, if you want to believe in Christianity, that's fine.
2:30:17
You're gonna have a problem. You talk to me and some other
2:30:19
people that are in the know about it, though, but that's not
2:30:21
Christianity. Okay, can I, can I speak now?
2:30:24
Is that okay, knock yourself out?
2:30:26
Oh good, I just I'm trying not to interrupt you like you said,
2:30:29
I'm trying to have some cord reality in this discussion.
2:30:31
So the reason why I bring up Orthodox Christians in the
2:30:35
context of the Russian Empires because you were just talking
2:30:38
about how Joseph Stalin removed and Persecuted Christians in
2:30:43
Russia. That was the term that you just
2:30:45
used was Christians that he was trying to remove Lenin and
2:30:48
Joseph Stalin were trying to remove Christianity from Russia.
2:30:52
So you can't on one hand, say that these Orthodox Christians
2:30:56
in Russia are not Christians. But then on the other hand also
2:30:59
try to claim that Joseph Stalin and Lenin and these people are
2:31:02
persecuting. Christians, those two things,
2:31:04
don't Jive. That was the point that I was
2:31:06
making products, whatever the method.
2:31:08
And that's an argument that a lot of Knuckleheads on YouTube,
2:31:11
Make the trying to trying to trying to argue and only focus
2:31:14
on the Orthodox church and try to say that there was only
2:31:16
Orthodox people and communist Russia and I'm sorry, that's not
2:31:19
the case they were Protestants there, too.
2:31:21
That would be unethical persecuted.
2:31:23
And the fact of the matter is that, they, they tried think
2:31:27
they're there. The laws that they put into
2:31:30
place were designed to try to get you and make you dependent
2:31:33
upon government, and less on God, or to even acknowledge Him.
2:31:37
They want you to worship the state.
2:31:39
That's what they want you to do. Kind of like what they're doing
2:31:42
today. It's so obvious, it's not even
2:31:45
funny. Sorry, I thought you were
2:31:47
finished there. I didn't mean to interrupt.
2:31:49
No, no, this ain't that. They you gonna run me whenever
2:31:51
you want you saying that there is nobody?
2:31:54
No fair enough. I actually really enjoyed these
2:31:56
discussions because I like hearing these viewpoints but I
2:31:59
understand that there were other Christians in these countries
2:32:01
that there were other denominations, that's
2:32:03
undeniable. But the reason why I bring up
2:32:06
Orthodoxy is the fact that you can't deny that, it was the vast
2:32:09
preponderance of the persecution that was taking place.
2:32:12
And that state that the Orthodox Church being the state, Arch of
2:32:16
Russia. That is one of the biggest
2:32:18
differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism actually, is the
2:32:21
idea that church and state should actually be fundamentally
2:32:24
mix together. As a matter of fact, in the
2:32:27
original periods of Orthodox history when it was originally
2:32:30
tied to the Roman Empire, the Roman Emperor was actually the
2:32:33
one that was in charge of appointing, the Patriarchs
2:32:35
including people like the pope. So what I'm talking about is the
2:32:38
fact that Orthodoxy was the state religion.
2:32:41
It was fundamentally ingrained into the state.
2:32:43
So sure if you want to bring up the vast majority.
2:32:46
Nora T of protestant Christians. I'm not saying that they don't
2:32:48
matter, but what I'm saying is it's a bit confusing to me when
2:32:52
you're talking about Christians being persecuted by people like
2:32:55
Joseph Stalin and Lenin. When in reality, you're talking
2:32:58
about a very, very small minority of people in Russia.
2:33:01
If you're trying to go by that definition of Christians versus
2:33:04
non Christians and the Rings sort of reason why.
2:33:07
The reason why you believe is this more minority because you
2:33:09
believe the majority of them were Orthodox.
2:33:12
And there's no way for you to individually.
2:33:13
You can prove that unless you try to use the census or
2:33:15
something like that. Now there are some going to go
2:33:17
about doing it. Fact of the matter is at the end
2:33:19
of the day, Joseph Stalin Joseph Stalin and Lenin had rules and
2:33:23
laws made to discourage people from wanting to be to even say
2:33:28
anything about God in public. It's just a truth and these
2:33:32
people were murderers. Joseph Stalin.
2:33:34
Not only wanted you to do not believe in God, they want to
2:33:37
eat. He wanted you to believe in him
2:33:39
so he can murder you later on because he had no respect for
2:33:42
your life whatsoever and a lot of people don't know this about
2:33:44
him because in school Cool. All we hear about is Adolf
2:33:47
Hitler. Adolf Hitler Adolf.
2:33:48
Hitler had these other people in your I never even heard of
2:33:51
before in school. I never heard of Lenin Stalin.
2:33:54
I heard him. The only thing I know about
2:33:56
Stalin was that he was in charge when when when Hitler invaded
2:34:01
Russia in that in that installing ended up joining us
2:34:05
during the war because of it. That was it.
2:34:07
We learned nothing about all of the evil that he was doing over
2:34:10
there at all. Why is it that true universally
2:34:13
universally that our schools are not teaching people?
2:34:16
About what communism is and how it works and how it comes
2:34:19
together, why are they not educated people in it and more
2:34:22
importantly than this, think about this for a minute and this
2:34:25
just move with what you don't got a group in.
2:34:27
Yes, I could be totally wrong about this.
2:34:29
You take God out of the government, you take God out of
2:34:31
the schools, you take God out of the economy, take God out of the
2:34:34
home. What do you got?
2:34:36
You got to eat the estate. And that is the agenda of the
2:34:38
secularists. Okay.
2:34:40
They want to atheist State. We're not stupid.
2:34:41
We see what they're doing. They don't even want them.
2:34:43
On the money, they get mad. When they See him on the money.
2:34:47
No, I hear you but I'm going back to what I was what we were
2:34:49
talking about earlier. You were telling me that a
2:34:51
sense, this would be an unreliable way of going about
2:34:54
things. So I'll give you an even more
2:34:55
physical reason why I like you the reason why the census would
2:35:01
be bad. The reason why the sensors would
2:35:03
be that because people can lie. Okay.
2:35:05
Well this can't lie. The actual physical number of
2:35:08
churches, monasteries deacons and Priests that were observed
2:35:11
to be Russian Orthodox Christians at the time of the
2:35:14
Russian Revolution. I'll tell you right now.
2:35:16
In 1914 in Russia, there were 55,000 173, Russian Orthodox
2:35:22
churches and twenty nine thousand five hundred ninety
2:35:25
three chapels 112,000, 629 priests and deacons 550
2:35:31
monasteries and 475 convents with a total of 90 5259 monks.
2:35:38
And nuns does that sound like a small minority.
2:35:41
Does that sound like what else? Tremely small subs and they are
2:35:43
cute boyfriend. Let me ask you a question during
2:35:45
that. I'm of Martin Luther how many of
2:35:48
the priests Pope's and the various different people in the
2:35:52
Catholic Church were actually Protestant sort of speak all
2:35:54
arguing for products in ISM as opposed to actually practicing
2:35:57
Roman Catholicism. Unlike what I just well I'm like
2:36:01
what? I just quoted you there that
2:36:03
would be almost impossible to actually fundamentally
2:36:05
determine. How would you determine do?
2:36:08
The same thing. You could tell me how many
2:36:10
Catholic church has existed and you would say, okay, it was
2:36:13
predominantly. Let me finish.
2:36:15
You can say that. That that the world was
2:36:16
predominantly Catholic at that time except you're not paying
2:36:19
attention to the underground Church, you ain't paying
2:36:21
attention to all the people that are killed and I are not being
2:36:24
recognized as Christians. Who are Christians, it doesn't
2:36:27
work that way. You see what I'm saying?
2:36:29
So and if you want to even go further than that, you can go to
2:36:32
the Roman Empire and you can look at the people who is
2:36:35
judaizers, you can look at the people who were Jewish who is
2:36:39
being confused as being followers of Jesus Christ.
2:36:43
Oh for sure. Yeah but I'm saying so
2:36:45
absolutely that. Work.
2:36:46
But my original argument was this and I'm going to go back to
2:36:49
it, okay? The goal of the secularist is to
2:36:52
secularize this country and make any theistic, that's what they
2:36:55
want done. They want this to be like, I
2:36:57
mean, is rushing a lot of policies that are being passed.
2:37:00
A lot of the things that they support all support, the idea of
2:37:03
this becoming an atheist state. But the good news is this, that
2:37:07
will never ever, ever, ever happen.
2:37:10
So most that will happen is, is that Christianity will be
2:37:13
demonized and ultimately, Be persecuted in the future.
2:37:17
So there is no way. There is no way on God's green
2:37:20
earth every country on the planet is going to become
2:37:23
atheistic and remain that way, just not going to happen.
2:37:25
I just let you go on a really long tangent there.
2:37:30
But well, not a tangent. I let you go on a really long
2:37:32
period. There have discussion on what
2:37:34
you were talking about, is it okay?
2:37:35
If I have that same period of time to say what I need to say,
2:37:38
knock yourself out, this ain't a debate.
2:37:40
No, I hear you. But it's a great.
2:37:42
It's kind of its kind of Feeling like you're dominating the
2:37:47
conversation a little bit and kind of monopolizing.
2:37:49
The time he's been for the remainder of the time.
2:37:51
He's not monopolizing, you guys are just go ahead.
2:37:54
Okay. Well, ya know I was about to
2:37:57
make the point that I was going to make and that was for one
2:37:59
thing. I think that this idea of
2:38:01
conflating secularism and conflating Atheism are
2:38:04
absolutely ridiculous. It's no less an absurd notion
2:38:07
than me conflating. The idea of Orthodoxy in
2:38:10
Catholicism are conflating the idea of those two faiths and
2:38:13
protestantism because they are two different ideas.
2:38:16
Deals with two different tenants and two different goals.
2:38:19
Secularism, inherently is not trying to strip away
2:38:22
Christianity from people's lives, there is nothing,
2:38:24
inherent about secularism, no matter what definition you look
2:38:27
up. That is inherently trying to
2:38:30
strip away, Christianity from people's lives.
2:38:33
There's nothing about that. And secondly, I find this
2:38:36
conflation. You keep you keep
2:38:37
interchangeably using Orthodox Christians and Catholics and
2:38:41
Catholic Christians. And I take issue with that and I
2:38:44
invite you to name any of the Fundamental differences between
2:38:47
those churches because it is important, it's an important
2:38:49
distinction. The great schism which ended up
2:38:51
happening in 1095, was one of the defining moments of
2:38:55
Christianity. This predates protestantism, it
2:38:58
helps set protestantism on the path that it did in the West
2:39:01
View. Do anti protestantism is yes,
2:39:05
what is it? It's, it's basically essentially
2:39:08
what you would said, the idea that people are against the
2:39:10
tenants of protestantism and some of them actually a decent
2:39:13
amount of them militantly. So, If the Catholic Church
2:39:17
against protestantism the Catholics being a part of it
2:39:20
definitely, but there are other subsets of Christianity that go
2:39:23
against protestantism. You could look at the Coptic
2:39:26
Church, you could look at the other way.
2:39:29
I actually do you believe that the Roman Catholic Church is
2:39:32
against the Protestant Church. You didn't ask me, you made a
2:39:34
statement. That that's what they are.
2:39:36
I'm asking you, I'm asking you with the Roman Catholic Church
2:39:39
against the I know they fundamental tenants of them are
2:39:44
contradictory of each other through.
2:39:46
Things like sill the scripture that fundamentally contravenes,
2:39:48
Catholic theology. I can assure you the Catholic
2:39:53
church is against the Protestant church.
2:39:55
I agree. That's Wednesday, April that
2:39:57
with the World Council of churches and management.
2:39:59
The National Council of churches, their their their
2:40:02
efforts to try to create a one-world religion and various
2:40:06
other things and their false doctrines.
2:40:08
If you actually want to do something interesting, go look
2:40:10
up the Jesuits, go look up, go look up, what they're all about
2:40:17
very anti Protestant. Reformation movement that is
2:40:21
Mine to destroy people's faith in Christ and the bring people
2:40:23
back to the Catholic church, and they're not shy about talking
2:40:27
about that. You can go to the Jesuit post.
2:40:29
If you don't believe me about that, that's why I always tell
2:40:32
people to go watch that Channel Christmas in July.
2:40:34
The look at the playlist, the truth about atheism and is all
2:40:37
there. If you look at World War Two, a
2:40:39
lot of people wrongly believe that we won World War Two.
2:40:42
We when nothing, the purpose of World War Two was to destroy the
2:40:46
Protestant Church in Europe in to establish the Catholic
2:40:50
Church. It's being the state Church of
2:40:52
an atheistic country. Well, that was.
2:40:54
Yeah. Hold on one second.
2:40:57
Hey, G-Man. I don't know if you've seen this
2:41:00
before. Did you hear about the Jimmy
2:41:02
Jones thing will happen with that?
2:41:05
Check this out real quick. This is very short.
2:41:08
I think everybody find this fascinating for the longest
2:41:10
time. This guy was claimed to be a
2:41:12
Christian. Check this out, the guy that
2:41:14
killed a thousand people by putting poison in their
2:41:16
Kool-Aid. But thank you for the feedback.
2:41:35
I asked myself somewhat hypocritical, the last year's as
2:41:39
I became an atheist, I became an atheist.
2:41:43
I have become a year filled painted by being in the church
2:41:48
situation because everyone knows why My Bishop knows that I'm an
2:41:51
atheist. I'm an atheist.
2:41:53
I'm an atheist. He knows I recognize only man.
2:42:00
Are you thinking about that? So, whenever an atheist tells
2:42:03
you don't drink the Kool-Aid G-Man, say, Amen, on that, plus
2:42:08
on top of that, they would classify him as being a
2:42:11
Christian because they got records of him preaching in the
2:42:14
Pulpit. Absolutely ridiculous hearing,
2:42:17
it wasn't until the congregation that they should bring a Bible
2:42:21
so they can wipe their ass with it and step on it.
2:42:24
So that's, that is what he did. He was doing what I we referred
2:42:28
to as he atheist Church. They do have a theist churches,
2:42:32
Tommy from the Bronx is watching a talk to you in a while.
2:42:37
Tony, hey, Tommy by the being forget about it, something to
2:42:44
bring up to you. Gee man, it's actually brought
2:42:46
up a really interesting point there and I've heard different
2:42:49
different perspectives on this. Do you believe as you were as
2:42:53
you were stating before? Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
2:42:56
But I believe what you stated was the purpose of the second
2:42:59
World War. Was to destroy Christianity in
2:43:02
Europe and to establish Catholicism is the majority
2:43:04
religion again. Is that what you said?
2:43:06
That was definitely, that was definitely one of the major
2:43:09
purposes of the war. Yes.
2:43:10
Okay. From whose perspective, do you
2:43:13
say that they're trying to destroy Christianity
2:43:16
Christianity? Is that at off Hitler.
2:43:17
That's trying to do that is that are rather at large as that the
2:43:21
Axis powers that's doing that? Or is that the Allies that are
2:43:24
trying to deal with both know where it will go?
2:43:30
So you look at what happened. During the war, a lot of those
2:43:32
countries were predominantly Protestant until Hitler or or
2:43:36
the Axis powers took over a particular land.
2:43:39
Yeah, it's Kellerman was well-known for destroying
2:43:42
churches and also hand handing out pretty ignorant trials for
2:43:47
Christians and all that. Oh, for sure, The ecumenical
2:43:51
patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church was one of the
2:43:53
first people that was, in fact, Tried by the politburo and was
2:43:57
sentenced to death by firing squad.
2:43:59
He was Later declared a martyr. But what I was going to say to
2:44:01
you, gee man, is that if you actually look at this extremely
2:44:05
warped and I will agree with you looking at scripture looking at
2:44:08
everything about it. The the church quote-unquote
2:44:12
that Hitler tried to establish during the second world war,
2:44:15
something by the name of and I put this in heavy quotes,
2:44:18
positive Christianity was something.
2:44:20
That was so fundamentally alien to the tenets of Catholicism.
2:44:24
Because in positive Christianity, Hitler tries to
2:44:27
completely excuse the Jews from any Importance in the Bible.
2:44:31
They don't read the Old Testament.
2:44:33
They don't care about anything to do with the Old Testament.
2:44:35
They even deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ as an actual
2:44:39
figure. If you look at the tenants of
2:44:40
quote-unquote, positive Christianity, you can see that
2:44:43
being the case. Now I'm not trying to sit here
2:44:45
and defend Hitler, don't get me wrong.
2:44:47
He's obviously an evil reprehensible know you're
2:44:50
actually defending Catholicism. No I'm not defending Catholicism
2:44:54
and saying that positive Christianity is different than
2:44:57
Catholicism or two different things.
2:44:59
I'm not on the Side of Christianity.
2:45:01
Here, I don't know if I've made that abundantly coordinating or
2:45:03
definitely catching feelings. When people attack half hours as
2:45:07
them though. No, I think that it's important
2:45:09
to have an honest look at what's happening here.
2:45:12
And to actually establish an understanding of the differences
2:45:15
in theology that are being discussed here, amongst those
2:45:18
two different tenants because you can't deny that.
2:45:20
The two of them are absolutely different.
2:45:22
I'm not going to try and be rude here but it almost seems like
2:45:25
your style sidestepping what I'm saying and just go ahead.
2:45:30
It seems you're trying to debate and I'm avoiding debate.
2:45:33
My thing is, this is that the average atheist on YouTube that
2:45:36
here is a Protestant Christian argue against Roman Catholicism
2:45:39
gets angry because Roman Catholicism and Atheism has too
2:45:42
much in common. Yeah, for example, for example,
2:45:48
you might not know this, you might want to do a little bit of
2:45:50
research that Jesuits don't believe in a supernatural God.
2:45:55
The Pope that is presently in power right now is a Jesuit you
2:46:00
need to do some research, my friend, you'll be surprised the
2:46:04
similarities between a Roman Catholic church.
2:46:06
And it was a matter of fact, if if, I had to pick this, so cool
2:46:10
set of Christianity. The Atheist failed to attack on
2:46:14
a daily basis is Roman Catholicism and then when they
2:46:17
do it, do it, which is hilarious.
2:46:18
Brent, they attempt to go after the so-called old of the, you
2:46:22
know, the precinct touch little kids and whatnot.
2:46:24
Yeah. Richard Dawkins is quoted as
2:46:27
saying that he doesn't have a problem with mouth and
2:46:29
affiliate, right and on top of that.
2:46:32
And then if they got a problem with the cracker, becoming the
2:46:34
literal Body of Christ and the wind becoming the, the literal
2:46:38
blood of Jesus, that's all then gets hacked, they don't attack
2:46:41
their, their the biblical beliefs that they don't attack
2:46:45
the Catholic Bible, they don't attack them anywhere near the
2:46:48
way. They attack Protestant
2:46:50
Christians and it's always Roman, Catholics defending, a
2:46:52
theist and atheist defending our Roman It was absolutely
2:46:56
hilarious. Let's take a look at let's take
2:46:58
a look at something and review it real quick and then we'll get
2:47:01
back in the conversation. We haven't reviewed anything for
2:47:04
a while. Let's take a look at this.
2:47:06
This is my buddy. Matt pal, handsome fella,
2:47:09
handsome fella, here we go. It's below that ever struck
2:47:13
Humanity. Was it coming of Christianity.
2:47:16
He says, our Epoch will certainly see the end of the
2:47:18
notice. The words here disease of
2:47:20
Christianity, you tell me, it was Hitler.
2:47:22
A bible-believing Christian. Is that something that the Bible
2:47:24
believing Christian? A know, Hitler was a staunch
2:47:27
atheist. He even said that, the best
2:47:29
thing is to let Christianity die.
2:47:32
A natural death, a slow, death has something comforting about
2:47:36
it, I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty delusional.
2:47:38
Who here wants to die, a slow death, there's nothing
2:47:41
comforting about that. He says, the dogma of
2:47:44
Christianity gets worn Away by the advances of science.
2:47:48
Religion will have to make more and more concessions.
2:47:51
Gradually the myths crumble from Adolf Hitler, Me, ask you a
2:47:55
question. Why is it that Adolf Hitler
2:47:57
ordered the extermination the execution over 6 million.
2:48:01
People 6 million Jews. Well, here's information that's
2:48:06
been recovered since during the In the second world war
2:48:11
prisoners were also subjected to Medical experiments.
2:48:14
Several thousands of them die while survivors were scarred for
2:48:18
life. SS leader, Heinrich Himmler,
2:48:21
took a close personal interest in some gruesome trials.
2:48:24
The experiments Were Meant to advance Nazi racial policy.
2:48:29
Remember, this is about survival of the fittest.
2:48:31
This is what Hitler believed and the Germans ability to win the
2:48:34
war victims were burned named Poison and infected or those two
2:48:39
tortures like freezing water, this is what they would do to
2:48:42
people. And the reason that he did this,
2:48:45
and notice the words here experiments were supported by
2:48:48
the medical establishment. So the evolutionists were
2:48:52
supporting this and they were saying, all right, let's do
2:48:54
this. Let's see if people are evolved
2:48:55
enough. Look at this, it says the
2:48:57
military and private companies who all saw prisoners as guinea
2:49:02
pigs quote unquote. They didn't even think they were
2:49:04
human. The Jewish people and other
2:49:06
people. Even Christians.
2:49:08
Adolf Hitler would lie. Up Christian families and priest
2:49:11
said, be all sorts of false denominations and he would line
2:49:14
them up and he would shoot, he would fire one bullet would go
2:49:17
through the son mother. Father daughter, they wanted to
2:49:20
kill everybody. Bible says they who hate me?
2:49:22
Love death, it's very gruesome. This actually happened.
2:49:25
This is part of history Hitler. As I have consistently
2:49:29
maintained as a Christian I read that wrong.
2:49:32
This is an evolutionist because remember they always say he's a
2:49:35
bible-believing Christian, this is a contemporary of Hitler.
2:49:38
Is it evolutionist he has consciously sought to make the
2:49:41
practice of Germany conform to Evolution.
2:49:43
This is somebody who lived right?
2:49:44
Alongside Hitler. He said, you know what?
2:49:46
The reason Hitler's doing all this stuff, the reason he's
2:49:48
killing all these people and burning them alive is because he
2:49:52
wants to cause the race to evolve better.
2:49:56
In 1941 the camp. SS launched two programs of mass
2:50:00
killings several months before the Holocaust entered the camps,
2:50:04
the first program targeted, notice this the week ill and
2:50:07
disabled what does the Bible say?
2:50:10
Can we meet that real quick? This Unity is a hate religion.
2:50:12
No, it's not. The Bible says Comfort the
2:50:14
feeble-minded. Yeah, they beat these people for
2:50:19
some reason, believe that there is no room in the world for
2:50:23
people who are not right in the head.
2:50:25
People that You know constantly getting sick or what do they
2:50:28
call us Brett useless eaters they call us right.
2:50:32
You know what I mean? That's why I can do, and that's
2:50:35
right. And they don't want to provide
2:50:37
any medical help for us. They are slow to come to our Aid
2:50:40
when when we're sick, when we get shot or whatever.
2:50:43
Because they figure that we didn't need to die and make room
2:50:45
for the people that are smarter than everyone else and it's a
2:50:48
philosophical form of evolution that these people were
2:50:52
practicing is what the troll channels are doing to Believe It
2:50:55
or Not, The Shanty and Rev into myself and two other people in
2:50:58
here that they believe that are inferior.
2:51:00
They're practicing, a philosophical form of evolution
2:51:03
survival of the fittest, anyway. Yes, I'm right.
2:51:08
Anybody else when responding to what we've heard so far because
2:51:11
we are going to try to do reviews every now and then.
2:51:17
Yeah, there's nothing. Anybody could say to defend this
2:51:22
man, just give me a second. I'm trying to pull up some
2:51:24
specific quotations because I guess what are the only issues
2:51:27
that I've had? Is that I disagree that I'm
2:51:29
trying to debate here and the only reason I say that is
2:51:32
because I'm only trying to discuss the nuances of these
2:51:35
different Christian sects. The ologies with you right now,
2:51:38
G, man, I'm not trying to say here and disagree with you on
2:51:41
things and so far as the actual whether or not, any of this
2:51:44
theology is true or not. I I'll take issue with anybody.
2:51:47
If what I'm observing is is not necessarily correct or factually
2:51:51
accurate to me, I'm going to correct them no matter what
2:51:54
their theology is, there anything like that.
2:51:56
So to go back to anti-Semitism in relation to relation to the
2:52:01
the not seating. Then I would say, one of the
2:52:05
quotes of Martin Luther against that of Judaism is quote, if I
2:52:10
had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the
2:52:13
elbe. Hang a stone around his neck.
2:52:16
And push him over with the words.
2:52:18
I baptize thee. In the name of Abraham that
2:52:21
sounds pretty anti-semitic to me.
2:52:26
And that's the founder protestantism.
2:52:27
Saying that what's thing? That's that's not a Protestant
2:52:31
saying that if you're talking about Luther and his hatred
2:52:34
towards the Jews, that is a different topic than what we're
2:52:36
talking about. Right now, you're going off
2:52:38
topic, we're talking about anti-Semitism in the
2:52:41
philosophical Evolution, that was practiced by the Nazis in
2:52:45
during World War Two. Yes, what we're talking about.
2:52:48
Yeah. And we're talking about Luther
2:52:50
and his hatred towards the Jews, you know, I mean we're talking
2:52:53
about his sin, that's totally Totally totally different than
2:52:56
what we're talking about right here.
2:52:58
So instead of so instead of you trying to trying to change the
2:53:01
topic or move, the goal post and not deal with what is being said
2:53:05
about that learn and what was going on in Nazi, Germany, you
2:53:08
know what I mean, actually deal with that when I told my Martin
2:53:11
Luther, we're talking about Hitler, I'm talking about did
2:53:14
during your would not Martin Luther, I'm talking about Martin
2:53:17
Luther because what you're talking about in your defense of
2:53:20
protestantism it, relates directly to the anti-Semitism of
2:53:23
the Nazis because they're basically Ali saying the same
2:53:25
thing two different all year. No, no no, no way.
2:53:54
Anything he's saying that, oh, I couldn't agree.
2:53:56
More did it? Hold on a minute.
2:53:58
Hold on me. He's basically saying that, you
2:54:00
know, because Hitler did this and Luther did it there ain't no
2:54:04
different. The difference between Luther
2:54:05
and Hitler is, is that Luther recognized that the Jews were
2:54:09
the, well, the offsprings of very that the Jews came directly
2:54:13
from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And that the events in the Bible
2:54:16
actually happened. Adolf Hitler doesn't believe
2:54:18
those things. Okay, there's a huge difference
2:54:22
between you bringing up Luthor and bringing this up.
2:54:24
It doesn't even make any sense or your fake boring.
2:54:27
Don't make no sense. Analogy, you use, uh-huh.
2:54:30
Anyway, can we get back to the video here?
2:54:31
Because he's not going to address here like stupid stuff
2:54:38
sometime. But there's a difference between
2:54:39
somebody thinking, stupid, thoughts and saying them, and
2:54:42
someone who's actually a commanding, their soldiers, to
2:54:45
do what, we're about to. Look at here.
2:54:47
Let's take a listen. Let's take a look.
2:54:50
You don't want to talk about it though?
2:54:51
Yeah, I do. I'll directly address what
2:54:53
you're talking. Do you want your Yeah, you're
2:54:55
making all of these different statements, you can go ahead.
2:54:57
They wanted to Target the weak ill and disabled actually
2:55:00
prisoners, who were selected by doctors and deported to special
2:55:03
killing centers across Germany. These are horrible things that
2:55:07
happen to people. All in the name of, we just want
2:55:10
to just got to got to get it better race.
2:55:14
It was said when the understanding of the universe
2:55:16
has become widespread, the Christian doctrine will be
2:55:19
convicted of absurdity. Hitler said this he says his
2:55:24
goal was to preserve the most valuable racial elements and
2:55:27
raise them to a dominant position.
2:55:29
All who are not of good race are chaff wrote Hitler.
2:55:33
It was necessary for the Germans to occupy themselves.
2:55:35
Not merely with the breeding of dogs and horses and cats but
2:55:38
also with care for the purity of their own blood.
2:55:42
That's what Hitler said. He said I want Blood to be what
2:55:45
dominates the world, Mussolini thought that his race was the
2:55:50
best race. These doctors, they saw people
2:55:54
as guinea pigs. This is how indoctrinated they
2:55:57
work because they believed what Hitler was saying.
2:56:02
It hasn't changed. This isn't a textbook from
2:56:04
today. You are an animal and share a
2:56:08
common Heritage with earthworms kids.
2:56:11
This isn't the US, that's book. They say, Christianity.
2:56:16
So hokey know, I'd say that sounds pretty hokey to say that,
2:56:18
my uncle was an earthworm German philosopher, everything from
2:56:24
observed at the exactly what they say, Hitler believed in
2:56:27
anything at all. Then it was in the laws of
2:56:29
evolution which Justified and Sanctified his actions and
2:56:33
especially and cruelties multiple Shootings.
2:56:37
Stablish fact. That is why he committed this
2:56:40
mmm. That's why it's so easy for them
2:56:46
to abort so many babies Brett because they're not babies as
2:56:49
zygotes. Okay, so you want me to directly
2:56:53
address what you just said there.
2:56:55
If you want me to directly address the actions of Hitler
2:56:57
and and of the actions that he committed over the course of his
2:57:00
Reign, then I would have to begin addressing it with the
2:57:03
fact that why did Hitler try to go about cloaking his ideologies
2:57:07
in a form of Christianity through what I was talking to
2:57:09
you before about positive, correct?
2:57:11
Correct? The damn good question and it's
2:57:13
valid, why? What a genocide will Maniac
2:57:17
atheist lie. About what his position was in
2:57:20
the beginning, what I'm trying to say.
2:57:22
And remember, give me a decent chance to fucking talk about.
2:57:25
I mean, my goodness self, the man can kill six million people
2:57:31
and he can hate on Races, but how dare he lie?
2:57:35
I mean, come on, man. I'm not saying that he's
2:57:38
incapable of lying. What I'm saying is that, if he's
2:57:41
the abject atheist, that he went about claiming that he was that
2:57:45
I don't know why he didn't go about just declaring that to the
2:57:47
public, especially in a time where atheism, to cross the
2:57:50
German Republic, the vine Mar Republic during the before the
2:57:53
events of the first world war was actually massively On The
2:57:56
Rise. 88, my I don't understand G-Man as well as myself have
2:58:01
already said many times there's there's non-believers they got
2:58:05
blood on their hands and it's religious people that got blood
2:58:08
on there. Yeah, we all know because when
2:58:10
you strip away the label and all that, it's the human race being
2:58:14
a piece. Trash.
2:58:15
That's the reason why we need a messiah and the first place
2:58:18
because we can't seem to get things right on their own.
2:58:23
All I know is this absolutely no defense for Adolf Hitler
2:58:26
whatsoever has zero defense. Anyone who tries to defend him
2:58:29
need to go get their head examined JF.
2:58:31
If you're watching, how you're doing your one of them people
2:58:33
that are Loco. Anyway.
2:58:35
Yeah, anybody that defends Hitler is a piece of garbage and
2:58:37
I'm not trying to defend his actions.
2:58:39
I'm trying to put his actions into the context of him, trying
2:58:42
to warp, the ideas of Christianity and I've already
2:58:44
admitted It on the outside. I'm not trying to sit here and
2:58:47
say that he was a Christian because I know that he's not a
2:58:50
Christian. He obviously warped the tenets
2:58:53
of Christianity. No, he didn't order.
2:58:55
Yes, he did know, either have you looked into what is positive
2:58:57
Christianity G-Man? Could you tell me about?
2:58:59
Are you talking about? So, the reason why he wasn't the
2:59:04
reason why he wasn't using the tenets of Christianity because
2:59:07
we're talking about what Jesus would Jesus taught.
2:59:10
And we're going to put it all in a ball.
2:59:12
Love God. Love your neighbor.
2:59:15
Love your enemies. You can sit there and say it's
2:59:17
Christianity to you're blue in the face.
2:59:19
The Bible calls you a liar, okay?
2:59:21
At the end of the day, that man practice, social Evolution
2:59:24
philosophical Evolution and he was previously and he was
2:59:28
practicing survival of the fittest.
2:59:31
He was also practicing racial Evolution.
2:59:33
Don't give me this nonsense that he's teaching us.
2:59:36
That he's teaching. Love.
2:59:37
God, love your neighbor and love your enemies.
2:59:39
Get the heck out of here. He's a question real quick.
2:59:45
A logical level. What race would have Jesus been?
2:59:50
Jesus was of the tribe of Judah. He was a Jew.
2:59:54
Well, seems like Hitler be right for him, right?
2:59:57
Yeah. That's why is it dumb argument
3:00:00
with people try to use that? It's like, do you even know what
3:00:02
we believe as Christians? He's a Muslim positive
3:00:05
Christianity. Doesn't you can bring up, you
3:00:08
could bring up Joel Osteen and and bitty hand and Creflo Dollar
3:00:12
you can bring up the emerging Church.
3:00:14
You could bring up the Verity gospel, you can listen to me.
3:00:17
You have people that legitimately believe and the
3:00:20
word of God and you got people out there that are talking a
3:00:24
good game, but don't do nothing that Jesus Christ told us to do,
3:00:27
okay? And as an atheist as a person
3:00:31
that doesn't even believe that God exists.
3:00:32
When I recommend you do, if you are an atheist or agnostic or
3:00:35
whatever you are, I strongly recommend that you get the claim
3:00:39
for us or what Christianity is and don't try to presume to me
3:00:43
what it is when you're not when you're so elf.
3:00:45
When did I say that? Hitler was a Christian.
3:00:47
I actually said, the obvious are this a positive Community was?
3:00:50
No. I'm saying that Hitler took the
3:00:53
teachings of Christianity and fundamentally warped them.
3:00:57
We're not even letting me, you're not even letting me talk.
3:01:00
You're just constantly laughing at me and cutting me off and
3:01:02
calling me a neanderthal and saying, all of these things and
3:01:06
that's all well and good. You can try and delegitimize me
3:01:08
all every way from Sunday. That's perfectly fine.
3:01:11
I don't have a problem with it, but at the same time, it doesn't
3:01:14
seem Can really willing to actually have an honest
3:01:16
conversation when you're cutting me off all the time when you're
3:01:19
constantly laughing at me, when I'm simply, trying to discard
3:01:22
crying and actually actually on this road.
3:01:24
I'm so sad. I'm so sad.
3:01:26
Trying to make your point. I think it's actually my tears
3:01:29
that caused the flooding of the earth.
3:01:30
I think that's what it was because I'm so sad.
3:01:33
I was about to get to my point but you cut me off.
3:01:35
You don't have a point. Yeah, no, it's easy.
3:01:37
It's easy to not have a point when someone's constantly
3:01:40
interrupting you. So you interrupted me to be
3:01:42
fair. You interrupted me, and I
3:01:44
apologized When I did, did I do wrong?
3:02:03
The point that I was trying to say was that it would have been
3:02:07
all too easy for him to go about claiming himself, to be an
3:02:10
atheist and claiming himself directly to purport to these
3:02:16
ideas of wiping out Christianity that you're talking about
3:02:19
because the population of Von Maur Germany, as I was bringing
3:02:23
up before was becoming predominantly atheist on its
3:02:26
own. Thanks to the ideas of
3:02:28
secularism that were placed in Von Maur Germany before Hitler's
3:02:31
rise to power. That's all I was trying to gain
3:02:34
power and through his rise he knew that Catholicism had power
3:02:38
back. Then yes I knew that they was a
3:02:40
strong church and in order to tear something to Pieces, it's
3:02:45
best to get right into the heart of it and tear it to pieces that
3:02:48
way he was a, even though he was a psychopath, he was a brilliant
3:02:53
tactician. Oh, I agree with you.
3:02:56
But if that was the case, then why did he cope?
3:02:59
Keep going about the narrative for the more than half decades
3:03:02
that he was an Salute power, really?
3:03:04
We don't, we just watch the video where he wrote in his
3:03:07
journal because he wanted to manipulate and take advantage,
3:03:10
just like Jimmy, Jones dead, not to mention, we don't lie.
3:03:16
If you tell a big enough lie, enough times people actually
3:03:18
believe it and you clearly you clearly drunk the Kool-Aid, my
3:03:21
friend, you know, Hitler was sitting in his chair, just
3:03:24
laughing his ass off. Every time he manipulated
3:03:27
people, they believed all the crap that he was saying, but in
3:03:30
this home personal Journal, you know, where he's talking to
3:03:32
himself, Christianity is an absurdity old.
3:03:35
Be wiped out by science. Yeah, G-Man G-Man, put in the
3:03:41
comments here. Positive Christianity is not
3:03:43
true Christianity, as sometimes every night.
3:03:46
No, true. Scotsman fallacy, here we come.
3:03:48
You know, I would be a no true, Scotsman fallacy.
3:03:51
If I said that, oh yeah, you can easily claim that it's not a
3:03:55
true tenets of Christianity. But what did I say to you?
3:03:57
Earlier? I said that, I agree with you
3:03:59
that it's not a true form of Christianity.
3:04:01
So you try to favor Directing a straw man is pretty dishonest.
3:04:05
Adolf Hitler killed those people, because Adolf Hitler
3:04:08
believed that the Germans were better than the Jews.
3:04:12
He believed that he was more evolved than the Jews were.
3:04:15
Yes, that is why he killed them. Yeah.
3:04:17
Okay. And that is the mentality that
3:04:19
evolutionists are trying to bring to this country.
3:04:23
And that will happen Over My Dead Body because I'm not trying
3:04:26
to hear that it was positive atheism.
3:04:28
Is what it was? Yeah.
3:04:31
Yeah. Positive atheism.
3:04:33
No, I'm hearing what you're saying and I'm not trying to
3:04:36
make a point to say that. Oh well, Hitler claim to be a
3:04:38
Christian there for Christianity bad.
3:04:40
The reason why I brought up Martin Luther is the fact that
3:04:43
even in the context of protestantism, even in the
3:04:46
context of what you're talking about is the true religion of
3:04:49
Christianity. There was an abundance of Pas G
3:04:52
against Jews as there were in every other sect of
3:04:55
Christianity, the founder of protestantism has been observed
3:04:59
saying extremely anti-semitic remarks against the Jews and
3:05:02
that is Worth bringing these things up because it influence
3:05:06
the later actions of Protestants, the reason why I
3:05:09
said that Hitler himself never went and directly killed.
3:05:13
A whole bunch of people is because he influenced people to
3:05:16
do those things. Those writings his sayings what
3:05:19
he did in his public presence influenced people to kill Jews.
3:05:23
Did he not tell you more about the Bible called you, Martin
3:05:26
Luther was the leader of protestantism, who told you,
3:05:30
that one of the fundamental founders of Yes.
3:05:34
Is that inaudible any Christian as truly educated on the topic?
3:05:38
Know that Christ G-Man where you come from two parents, right?
3:05:48
Yeah. So there's only one race do this
3:05:50
time. Only logical reason what logical
3:05:53
reason can that the racism should even exist in the first
3:05:58
place of God created us all and created us to Adam and Eve and
3:06:03
he says that he died for the entire world and loves all men
3:06:06
women and children. Then how could anybody even
3:06:09
argue for that? I don't know.
3:06:12
I don't know. But all others, as you know, you
3:06:16
went down on, do you not do unto others and then stick whoever
3:06:19
you don't like in a furnace or the held that concept come from
3:06:24
well here. Exactly exactly as the show as a
3:06:27
trident to extend an olive branch and trying to show you
3:06:30
that I am actually legitimately trying to understand what you
3:06:33
believe here. I'm going to ask you in your
3:06:35
opinion. What do you believe or who do
3:06:38
you believe are the fundamental influencers?
3:06:40
The If I may say of protestantism and of the
3:06:44
Protestant church, I want to actually understand what your
3:06:46
beliefs are here because I don't want to argue with the straw
3:06:48
man. God, the Father God, the son and
3:06:50
God the holy spirit. So he just completely, he
3:06:55
flashed it into millions of people's minds in the 16th
3:06:58
century and they just suddenly believed in Christianity, as
3:07:01
well as God, the Father God, the son, God the Holy Spirit, I hear
3:07:07
you and Matthew chapter. What is that and enjoy?
3:07:11
John chapter 3 because I believe, the writer says that I
3:07:16
must decrease and he must increase.
3:07:18
So God himself is the founder of it.
3:07:20
Now, if you want me to talk about it from a human human
3:07:22
perspective, it was, it was a, it was, it was a very, as
3:07:26
different people doing different times.
3:07:28
That was responsible for the Protestant Reformation.
3:07:30
Yeah, that was that would have been a better.
3:07:32
I actually goofed there in saying what I did about it.
3:07:36
Flashing into people's minds, because that's me making an
3:07:38
assumption about what your beliefs are a better way of
3:07:41
putting. It would have been if I asked
3:07:43
you how it was propagated to people and who those people that
3:07:46
propagated it to them were because as you can see,
3:07:49
throughout the scriptures discussion though was about
3:07:56
protesting against what the teachings of what the teachings
3:07:59
and beliefs were of the Roman Catholic Church.
3:08:02
Which is why I know the Catholic church and the Protestant church
3:08:05
are against each other yet, at least, people it leads to people
3:08:08
in the Protestant church, or Really doing Sola scriptura and
3:08:12
actually following scripture where as a Roman Catholic Church
3:08:15
is following teeny-weeny. Bit of Bible and a whole lot of
3:08:18
paganism know and I agree with you that they're against each
3:08:22
other. I'm sorry if I misrepresented
3:08:24
myself earlier but I do fundamentally agree with you
3:08:27
that they are two sects of and this is just my belief that they
3:08:31
are both Christians. I understand that you don't
3:08:33
agree with that. I won't I can only tell you
3:08:35
what, I believe. I can't tell you what you
3:08:37
believe, but I with them being two different Sects of
3:08:41
Christianity, I agree that they're different, but I guess
3:08:44
to even bring it back to the earliest points of the church
3:08:47
like into the apostles. The people that basically any
3:08:50
Christians, I'm not sure if you ascribe to this, but I'm pretty
3:08:54
sure every Christian, at least that I've talked to every single
3:08:56
apostle was a true Christian, would you agree with that that
3:08:59
they were true Christians? Well, the apostles was saved
3:09:03
with Justified and Sanctified in the name of our Lord and our
3:09:05
Savior Jesus Christ. There are very much saved.
3:09:08
Okay, so, yes, you do believe, therefore, that they are
3:09:10
Christians. Ins for the apostles.
3:09:12
Yes. The apostille have not talking
3:09:14
about the ACT. Do you know what?
3:09:26
The Council of Jerusalem is Gina?
3:09:28
No. What is it?
3:09:30
The Council of Jerusalem was a very early Gathering of the
3:09:33
Apostles shortly after the death of Christ and before and you
3:09:36
talking about in Acts 15? Yes.
3:09:38
I know what? That is.
3:09:38
Yes. And actually team.
3:09:39
Yes, the Gathering Together. Them to decide.
3:09:42
And this is one of the things I was talking about in the last
3:09:44
show, that kind of confuses me. Maybe you can clear this up, for
3:09:47
me, is Christianity. Has been described as a,
3:09:51
Universalist religion from the beginning.
3:09:53
It's been described as something where all the nations of the
3:09:56
world are supposed to be given the word of God, but the
3:10:00
apostles had to debate amongst themselves in the very early
3:10:03
history of the church. Not only whether or not Gentiles
3:10:06
would be allowed to be baptized and whether or not, they would
3:10:09
be allowed to be accepted into the church.
3:10:11
But even aspects of whether or not circumcision was even still
3:10:14
supposed to be practiced and whether or not that was supposed
3:10:17
to be abandoned with the law of Moses being turned over with the
3:10:20
law of Christ or whether it was something that should still be
3:10:22
instituted in the church. Now, the point that I'm trying
3:10:25
to make with this is the fact that for, as obvious as it seems
3:10:28
to us now, for as obvious as it seems to us in the current day,
3:10:32
it didn't seem to be so obvious to the apostles.
3:10:34
Otherwise, they wouldn't have even needed to have had this
3:10:36
discussion in the first place. Well, I've got a lot of problems
3:10:39
with with these two things that you Prosthetic one of them.
3:10:42
But I said well, you said that they had a debate on
3:10:45
circumcision. Circum circumcision.
3:10:47
Yes. Right there was the issue with
3:10:50
the judaizers and Acts chapter 15.
3:10:53
If you got a Bible next to you, I don't need to look at it.
3:10:55
I know, three verses that's relevant to this and actually
3:10:58
team that they're there was a group of up so-called Believers
3:11:02
that came to the Israelites. I'm sorry that came to the
3:11:04
Believers at that time. The questions and said that,
3:11:07
unless you was uncircumcised in the manner of Moses, then you
3:11:09
couldn't be saved. Okay?
3:11:11
And then it went to the Jerusalem Council and they say
3:11:13
well why are you trying to put a burden upon these upon these
3:11:17
Believers that we or our fathers?
3:11:21
Could not bear and by the time you get to verse 20 it says that
3:11:25
the only the only things that Believers have been really do.
3:11:28
Then as far as like strict rules was, was it.
3:11:30
You couldn't eat food with the blood in it and you couldn't,
3:11:35
and you have to abstain from the uncleanness of Idols or
3:11:37
whatever. Yes.
3:11:38
There are not intimidated to come out.
3:11:40
I don't have that in front of But the reason why I know this
3:11:43
is because the judaizers were people who have a form of
3:11:46
godliness but denying the power thereof, they were not
3:11:49
believers. They were people that was going
3:11:51
out there, teaching a Works based gospel that said that, you
3:11:55
have to keep the law of Moses as well as believe in Jesus.
3:11:58
They had a very flawed idea about what Christianity was and
3:12:01
if you go into the book of Galatians, it breaks down, why
3:12:06
it's wrong. In the argument that they make
3:12:07
it, that book was specifically written to the Believers of
3:12:10
galatea. You to deal with the issues of
3:12:13
the deal, with the issues of the judaizers and the in the people
3:12:17
who are trusting and believing in the things that they said.
3:12:20
All right? So you're assuming that they
3:12:26
that that was an issue. No, the issue was is that you
3:12:29
had non-belief, I'm sorry, you got non-believers, trying to
3:12:33
pollute the truth. And lie to people about what it
3:12:38
about, how they, what they have to do to be saved.
3:12:41
You know what I mean? And it has to be addressed in
3:12:43
the Jerusalem. Council in the Jerusalem
3:12:46
Council, was by the, whoever the apostles were, I believe.
3:12:49
Peter was ahead of it or whatever.
3:12:51
Yeah. But um, but they discussed it
3:12:55
and they resolved it it wasn't this big debate.
3:12:58
It was these false teachers trying to bring in false
3:13:00
Doctrine. Okay there's no there's no some
3:13:03
other thing too, I mean, me and G-Man.
3:13:06
We try to go directly to what Jesus was about our know this,
3:13:10
the disciples, they Constantly questioned Jesus, even though
3:13:13
they were walking with them, even after he was crucified,
3:13:15
they were questioning, I'm not going to believe it until I'm
3:13:19
able to stick my fingers into his.
3:13:21
So what men are doing and they're confused and it's
3:13:24
totally different. Jesus showed that he loved the
3:13:26
Gentiles, he actually brought a child of the Gentiles back to
3:13:31
life that had died. So he showed that he cared and
3:13:35
loved everybody. What some idiot later aren't
3:13:37
said or whatever confused they had that, that doesn't do
3:13:41
nothing. For Jesus, well II agree and I
3:13:44
was only asking I'm sorry if it if it seemed like I was trying
3:13:48
to like make a gotcha or anything like that, I was asking
3:13:50
your opinion on it because that's what I want to know.
3:13:52
I want to know your actual beliefs and you're right.
3:13:55
Why do you earn it? If I thought you were playing
3:13:57
with me, I wouldn't have even made an effort.
3:13:59
Now fairy my puppet question was valid.
3:14:01
That's why I went to answer for you.
3:14:03
No fair enough. And I think that scripture
3:14:05
absolutely backs up what both of you are saying in the fact that
3:14:08
not only did Christ give the apostles, the gift of tongues
3:14:11
here. Them to go throughout the world
3:14:13
and to speak any language that they may need in order to spread
3:14:15
the scriptures funny that you're interested in all of this.
3:14:18
But you're not a Christian we should think about he's actually
3:14:22
said he would like to believe in a god he's not got a chip on his
3:14:26
shoulder. Then do it like turn to do it
3:14:28
then do it because I am. Yeah, yeah.
3:14:31
You say it's not all that difficult and I'm just wait just
3:14:35
wait just let me speak please. I'm not trying to say like it
3:14:39
very well could not be very difficult and If it isn't very
3:14:42
difficult, I just haven't found the way of going about doing it.
3:14:45
The way that you have, and I'm sorry if that's the case.
3:14:48
I mean, the fact that you're rolling your eyes at me right
3:14:50
now and I'm just trying to describe to you.
3:14:52
Let me ask you a question. You have to be a lot of
3:14:54
questions. Yeah, go ahead.
3:14:55
What is it? And with I was watching, ESPN,
3:15:15
ESPN. I was watching Undisputed an
3:15:16
ESPN, and I don't know if Steven Naismith, I don't know.
3:15:20
If you watch it or not. Brett, do you watch ESPN?
3:15:24
Oh wait, time I watch anything having to do with sports, my
3:15:28
team always loses, so I'm cursed so I try not to watch because I
3:15:32
linger people. Right, right.
3:15:34
But eh, I don't know Steven Naismith comes across as being
3:15:37
like a pastor. They don't really give you stats
3:15:39
in the news with a Really used to do it now.
3:15:43
All they do is debate over who their favorite player is and how
3:15:46
they scored 50 points. And they must not be mortal.
3:15:49
They must be a superhuman or whatever, you know, I mean, they
3:15:52
understand what a concept of a goddess or whatever pagans
3:15:57
ascribe, anything that provides for your needs, whether it be a
3:16:02
river, the Sun, the moon, or whatever, as being some type of
3:16:06
deity, atheist, one of the things that irritates me about
3:16:10
having conversations with them, is that they try to act like
3:16:15
They don't understand what the concept of a God is continuing
3:16:18
to hold on a minute. Yeah, if you if you if you if
3:16:22
you are into comics and you know about DC because I believe
3:16:26
atheist put that stuff together. Personally, DC or Marvel or
3:16:30
anything like that. You got an idea what it is.
3:16:33
If you have an understanding about Star Wars, you have an
3:16:35
understanding about what it is, you know what I mean.
3:16:38
So, it isn't difficult to believe in something greater
3:16:41
than yourself. If you can't believe in
3:16:43
something greater than yourself, you got to humility.
3:16:46
Okay, if I can try to answer your question here and it's not
3:16:52
a quiet. No, you ask, you ask me a
3:16:54
question of what I believed, what God is, is what you do,
3:16:57
what they got is what it got it, and there's a bunch of different
3:17:00
definitions for it, but that's what I'm saying, you did ask me
3:17:03
a question and I'm going to try to give you what I consider to
3:17:05
be a God. And from the Christian
3:17:08
Perspective, from what I've heard from Christians, I believe
3:17:11
that they buy the particular perspective because that is the
3:17:14
perspective. Of in which you were talking
3:17:16
about. And I know it is not know what
3:17:18
is nice. The Bible talks about idols, and
3:17:21
it talks about false deities and false gods, okay?
3:17:24
Christians don't just talk about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and
3:17:27
Jacob. We also talked about the false
3:17:29
gods of the, of the Philistines, the Canaanites and the various
3:17:32
Nations that surrounded Israel at the time, okay?
3:17:35
So you don't know, I'm trying to understand what you're talking
3:17:39
about. I'm glad that you qualified and
3:17:41
clarified that like I really am trying to be honest with Your
3:17:45
dream and I'm sorry if it doesn't come across, let me ask
3:17:48
you this. Let me ask you this.
3:17:49
Do you consider a superhuman to be a guy?
3:17:51
What like a demigod do you believe that is superhuman as a
3:17:55
guy to find superhuman? I don't know what you're talking
3:17:58
about. This is what I'm talking about.
3:18:01
Was one of the definition, what you told you Google it, if you
3:18:04
Google it, it will actually show you what the definition of a
3:18:07
goddess. This is why I got to check
3:18:09
myself out of this conversation because you're not being
3:18:11
intellectually honest. How how I don't know what you're
3:18:14
doing, Google. Google.
3:18:41
Okay, but I'm not tripping on says, you're being dishonest,
3:18:44
dude. How am I being dishonest?
3:18:45
I'm trying to hassle. You were talking about when you
3:18:48
say superhuman because if I don't know what you're
3:18:50
specifically talking about, when you say superhuman then how can
3:18:53
I accurately address what you're saying?
3:18:55
Okay. How is trying to gain an
3:18:57
understanding of what you're saying dishonest?
3:18:59
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You don't know what a superhuman
3:19:01
is. You want me to believe that?
3:19:03
You don't know what a superhuman is.
3:19:04
Okay, no, I'm not trying to say that.
3:19:05
I don't know. I'm trying to understand what
3:19:07
you mean by superhuman a superhero.
3:19:09
Room is somebody that is As far as I'm concerned, a superhuman.
3:19:13
Is somebody that is imbued with super naturalistic qualities
3:19:17
like extreme strength like telepathy.
3:19:20
Like, any one of these different things that you see, I don't
3:19:22
know what it makes me. Okay.
3:19:41
Don't know what a God is. You can't claim atheism.
3:19:43
I fun. Yeah, you know what you can
3:19:44
gues? Gallup me all night.
3:19:46
If you want this Galloping? Yes you are.
3:19:48
Come on. Is your questions?
3:19:49
I'm trying to answer. You need to shut the fuck up.
3:19:56
Relax guys, relax. The god, the God that I guess
3:20:16
what I need to say to what you just said, is, are you talking
3:20:18
about all gods? Like we were saying in the Bible
3:20:20
false of called, God's Idols, things like that, is that what
3:20:24
you're talking about? Are you talking about the
3:20:25
supreme? God the Arbiter of all morality
3:20:28
and creator of the universe and all things.
3:20:33
I'm going to let you talk cuz I'm checking myself out of this
3:20:35
conversation. One thing about me, if you don't
3:20:38
know, the definition of a guy, shouldn't be known wins again.
3:20:43
I told you I'm not sure when I'm talking to a troll.
3:20:46
Yeah, I'm a troll. I'm not trying to honestly
3:20:48
understand what you're saying at all.
3:20:49
That's you're not you're not know how is that?
3:20:52
No. Can you put arm?
3:20:54
You keep explaining to me what I think about know what I think
3:20:56
you're doing is planning to me. I believe things, but I'm trying
3:20:59
to say here and actually understand what you're talking
3:21:01
about here and that's not being dishonest.
3:21:04
It would be dishonest, what are they trying to put words in your
3:21:06
mouth? But I think that you're trying
3:21:10
to implement the 50/50 Rule and I think you're being difficult.
3:21:13
Rs.50000 Rollin. So, what I'll do is I'll be a
3:21:15
student because I believe listening is really good.
3:21:17
I'm gonna sit back and listen to you and just remember Psalms
3:21:20
14:1 while I'm listening to you. Okay, hold on.
3:21:23
Let me look that one up really quick.
3:21:25
I want to actually have said in his heart.
3:21:26
There is no God, they are corrupt, they have done a bundle
3:21:29
boards, that's what it means. Okay.
3:21:32
And I'll go right off the bat and say that, I don't believe
3:21:35
that there is no God. I never said that there is no
3:21:37
God. As a matter of fact, as I was
3:21:39
saying before I would actually prefer the idea of a god
3:21:42
existing. Over the idea of a God.
3:21:44
Not existing. That's what kind of aggressive
3:21:46
atheism passive-aggressive atheism.
3:21:49
Yeah, how is that, what a passive-aggressive atheism?
3:21:53
What wanting there to be a God? But not seeing sufficient
3:21:56
evidence for their new pretending that you wanted God
3:21:58
to exist. We got better.
3:21:59
I've been doing this with look like getting from little longer
3:22:01
than me. What do I really want to talk to
3:22:03
me? What do I gain from pretending
3:22:05
that I want there to be a god? Whoever is paying you to come
3:22:07
here and troll. Yeah, no, I'm being funded.
3:22:10
You're right. G-Man.
3:22:11
You found me out? It's not like, I'm just trying
3:22:12
to honor. I understand what you're saying.
3:22:14
No, that's impossible. Hey Brett, I've got a question
3:22:17
for you, over the course of our conversations that I've had with
3:22:20
you, if I come across as trollish to you, if I come
3:22:22
across as somebody, that's just trying to get a rise out of you.
3:22:25
Or would you say that I'm actually trying to understand
3:22:27
what's being discussed here? Paul Ryan has been on my show
3:22:31
quite a few times there G-Man, and he seems like he sincerely,
3:22:34
and genuinely wants to believe that there's a God.
3:22:38
He does have a passion for arguing and having discussion
3:22:42
and all that though. G-Man.
3:22:44
Hey Leslie, all do he left. Well, he waited He Man.
3:22:49
I just I don't really understand why he's so frustrated and why.
3:22:53
So aggravated because all the time trying to do is trying to
3:22:56
understand what he's talking about.
3:22:57
The same way that I try to understand what you're talking
3:23:00
about Brave, under a lot of stress right now.
3:23:03
Okay, I understand that but that's not an excuse for me.
3:23:05
If I was under a lot of stress and I started yelling at you.
3:23:08
You wouldn't just let me off by saying that I'm under stress
3:23:11
when you Well, that's the way the man always has been.
3:23:15
He gets excited and passionate about stuff and I think I knew I
3:23:19
thought you said you watched him and he's a very passionate know.
3:23:23
He is very passionate and I'm not trying to deny, they thought
3:23:28
that you might have Rage. Quit, rage quit.
3:23:35
I just didn't understand why he left when he did.
3:23:37
That's all I was trying to say. No.
3:23:43
Yeah, I sincerely hope that. I that I'm able to find the
3:23:46
means to repent. And you know, I'm the means a
3:23:48
repair through Jesus Christ. You have the information, you
3:23:50
need. Get over yourself and come to
3:23:52
know Christ as your savior. You see, you're not going to be
3:23:54
able to get many converts when you keep talking down to people
3:23:57
like that G. And then, I can tell you one
3:24:00
thing, I'm not going to presume for Christ, but I can observe
3:24:02
his behavior in the scriptures. And he wasn't talking down to
3:24:05
people all the time. He was trying to understand
3:24:07
people, and he was trying to convert them through their
3:24:10
understanding of people, otherwise he wouldn't have done
3:24:12
things. In the Bible like have the
3:24:14
apostles go and plow the fields of the Canaanites, God knows
3:24:17
everything. He doesn't need to try to learn
3:24:19
people at all, you knows everything, you need to repent.
3:24:22
My I'm not any try to reach it then.
3:24:24
Why did he try to reach out to them?
3:24:25
If he already knows all the outcomes of everything that's
3:24:27
going to happen and if you already knows the view, why do
3:24:29
you care? Why do you care if you're not
3:24:31
going to repent? I never said I wasn't going to
3:24:33
repent. When did I say those words?
3:24:35
You keep putting words in my mouth, need to repent of your
3:24:37
sins and coming putting words in my mouth.
3:24:40
And I can't have a discussion with somebody who keeps To put
3:24:43
words in my mouth and don't have a discussion where.
3:24:44
All right guys. Don't have it guys.
3:24:47
Why don't you guys take a break from each other?
3:24:49
For a moment, just talk about what led team.
3:24:53
A need is popcorn or switch eating over there.
3:24:55
German popcorn in know, they'll pop where I've got me.
3:25:00
I don't know how you guys got yourselves around up against
3:25:02
each other or whatever, but I'm not round up here today, That
3:25:15
blew my mind. Apparently, there's a new
3:25:17
trailer for the new Thor movie. I'm also looking forward to the
3:25:21
Multiverse with dr. Strange.
3:25:24
That one has any of you had the opportunity, the newest
3:25:27
Spider-Man, no way home with all the other Spider-Man's yet.
3:25:33
Well, I'm at a cross hairs, have you ever heard a good fight
3:25:38
Ministries? Uh, Brett good fight Ministry.
3:25:42
That like a Fight Club. Diet would do Christians like
3:25:44
punch each other or something that sounds fun?
3:25:46
No, no, isn't it? We're the expose Hollywood and
3:25:49
things like that. It's come to my conclusion that
3:25:54
Iron Man. And mind you, I'm just telling
3:25:58
you, I'm just talking about what the, what the director himself
3:26:00
had said, in the creator of Iron Man has said The iron the Iron
3:26:05
Man supposed to be the Antichrist.
3:26:06
It was supposed to be some type of antichrist or whatever.
3:26:09
And good bike Ministries is. It's making some videos about DC
3:26:13
and Marvel. So part of me wants to see dr.
3:26:17
Strange in the Multiverse in the other part of me is telling me I
3:26:20
need to stop watching all these Marvel and DC movies.
3:26:24
So I'm actually torn a little bit There's being the two
3:26:31
Multiverse is probably going to be evil versions of some of the
3:26:34
superheroes. It's going to be good versions.
3:26:37
I hear Tom Cruise is going to play one of the versions of iron
3:26:40
ma'am. So I I don't know, I also I'm
3:26:44
subscribed to Bruce Campbell or in Facebook.
3:26:47
You guys know who Bruce Campbell is and I can't say, I dunno.
3:26:52
Sorry, Bruce Campbell is ash from Army of Darkness and the
3:26:55
Evil Dead series. He's the guy with the chainsaw.
3:26:59
Yeah. Yeah, he's going to be in the
3:27:01
multi-verse show. He announced it on his group and
3:27:04
stuff. I love me some Bruce Campbell,
3:27:06
he's just groovy. He'd make a good alternate, Tony
3:27:09
Stark. Actually, I think that would
3:27:11
actually be pretty decent gonna actually come out of the portal
3:27:15
as ash from Evil Dead. Oh, really?
3:27:18
He doesn't have superpowers, so I don't know why they're having
3:27:21
him in the movie, but I guess they thought it would be a cool
3:27:24
Cameo to have him show up cruelly.
3:27:27
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but doesn't doesn't Hawkeye not have
3:27:30
superpowers. I'm not too familiar with the
3:27:32
whole Marvel thing but I'm pretty sure he doesn't either or
3:27:35
black widows. He doesn't have superpowers but
3:27:37
the Perkins shoot like a crazy superpowers.
3:27:40
Yeah, he's really good at that in the girl that they got.
3:27:44
What's your name is Scarlett? She can kick in the face and
3:27:46
like crush it more than Bruce Lee.
3:27:48
So no fair enough I guess Ash is similar in that and that like he
3:27:51
can kick all kinds of ass but he doesn't necessarily have to be a
3:27:55
superhero you know completely getting off of what we were.
3:27:58
Talking about, before G-Man, I saw your eating popcorn there.
3:28:01
You a fan of caramel popcorn at all, or do you just a regular
3:28:04
kind of popcorn guy? I'm just, oh, all right.
3:28:08
Okay, I thought I left the room again.
3:28:12
Yeah, no, I just eat whatever popcorn I got a fair enough and
3:28:16
I rarely eat it now. That's respectable.
3:28:20
What would you say is, if you had any kind of favorite food,
3:28:23
what would you say is your favorite food?
3:28:25
You got a favorite meal, I'm going to keep my mouth shut
3:28:27
about that because Because that people tease breaking about
3:28:31
macaroni and cheese all the time.
3:28:32
So okay, I'm going, I'm sure II took over that joke.
3:28:36
It's cool to talk about it. Now, mac and cheese got you.
3:28:40
I'm sorry. I wasn't.
3:28:42
I'm gonna try to make a meme. I was just trying to be
3:28:45
personable with you. That's all I'm trying to show
3:28:47
you that. I'm that I'm not a troll and
3:28:49
that I'm not here to aggravate. I'm just trying to have a
3:28:51
discussion. What's another thing I could
3:28:54
talk with you about. Mmm.
3:28:58
I like to talk to you about something since since you're so
3:29:00
passionate about defending atheist, how do you feel about
3:29:03
atheists on here? That call Christians on your
3:29:07
lows cows? When, and the reason why they
3:29:10
local cows because they do certain things, but then the
3:29:13
atheist that are calling the lows cows are doing the exact
3:29:16
same things themselves. Are you doing those cows?
3:29:21
Basically basically when they're when they're saying that you do
3:29:24
nothing but make them laugh I guess I don't know.
3:29:27
So it's like you are you trying to say that they like they find
3:29:30
Christianity? Laughable is what you draw?
3:29:32
No end of the individual alone. California you know all the mean
3:29:40
terms at all. I'm just trying to sit here and
3:29:50
have Conversation, you know what a loss Kyle isn't.
3:29:53
I guess by what you would describe their, no, I don't
3:29:56
agree with that at all. I'm, I'm not sweating these.
3:29:59
Do it? I don't know why atheists do it
3:30:03
because atheism isn't a set set of beliefs.
3:30:06
It doesn't matter of fact, a lack of beliefs.
3:30:08
I can't explain the actions of anybody.
3:30:10
But myself, this is have a little bit of homework for you
3:30:14
Aidan. If you're serious, you need to
3:30:16
go take a look at this channel called Christmas Is A Lie.
3:30:19
Go look at the playlist called the truth about atheism.
3:30:23
Everybody keeps saying that, you know, that that is not a set of
3:30:26
beliefs go watch that playlist and then get back to me.
3:30:29
Good, that's a bunch of malarkey.
3:30:31
Is a set of beliefs what the idea that okay, I guess.
3:30:36
Hold on, just a second I'm going to try and look at the
3:30:39
definition of atheism right now because I'm going to see if
3:30:41
that's what I personally describe to on Atheism in the
3:30:44
broadest sense is an absence. I gotta ask you both something
3:30:48
that almost flew, right over my head, but you just said, well I
3:30:52
can't speak for other atheists Behavior because I'm for my own
3:30:57
man. Basically, you're just for
3:30:59
yourself in the way you think. But the whole damn time, you've
3:31:02
been sitting here calling us and we're responsible for some dumb
3:31:05
prick. A thousand years ago, our main I
3:31:11
never said that you're a responsible for any of that.
3:31:13
What I was trying to say was that they were actually given
3:31:17
because I think it's just do it Martin Luther and his stupidity
3:31:21
but when so people were fucking breads No, I agree.
3:31:26
If you I don't know whether or not, you personally describe
3:31:28
yourself as a Protestant. The only reason why I brought
3:31:31
that up was because G-Man had previously talked about
3:31:33
protestantism. And I didn't know at that point
3:31:37
in time that G-Man doesn't necessarily consider Martin
3:31:40
Luther to be the founder of protestantism.
3:31:42
So I'm more than welcome, I'm more than happy to recant.
3:31:44
What I said. Now that I know that he doesn't
3:31:46
consider that to be true. I'm not trying to say that
3:31:49
you're responsible for that any more than I'm trying to say that
3:31:52
people like Joseph Stalin. Are responsible for all of
3:31:55
atheism or anything like that because both of those are absurd
3:31:58
Notions. I just see you all the time.
3:32:00
Bring up all of these awful horrible acts, that atheists
3:32:03
have committed and I don't think that it's any less warranting to
3:32:07
bring up awful, horrible acts that certain Christians have
3:32:09
created and that they both want to find this work.
3:32:11
Well, you know, why I started doing that in the first place?
3:32:14
It's because it's constantly, you see atheist making videos
3:32:19
doing that. If you look back to my stuff,
3:32:22
it's all chill and everything. G-Man.
3:32:25
Even when he first started it was all chill but if after over
3:32:29
and over you hearing about how mean and terrible God is and how
3:32:32
stupid Christians are and how they killed people.
3:32:35
It just got to the point where it's like, oh really?
3:32:38
Well, let's take a look at night theism then a theist got that
3:32:42
ball rolling. I mean, if and you know what
3:32:46
actually through what I watched on earlier YouTube, I can't deny
3:32:49
that. That's definitely the case
3:32:52
anything to Aidan. Before you came in me and Adam
3:32:56
lower, and a.g. men were talking about getting us a dinosaur
3:33:00
mountain riding through World of Warcraft.
3:33:02
And I'm just going, we were dinosaurs and birds we didn't
3:33:06
even mention how mean atheist. Are you actually brought it up?
3:33:09
First, sir? Now, that's fair.
3:33:11
That's how I believe atoms in that easy than agnostic or an
3:33:15
atheist but the three of us went on the drunken peasants.
3:33:17
You know, we went on, they're disagreeing with the Amazing
3:33:19
Atheist and those guys so I'll take your second wasn't for
3:33:23
breaking. I would have never met The
3:33:24
Amazing Atheist. Everybody knows it.
3:33:29
You see Adam Adam is saying that I wanted to bait.
3:33:32
I can totally drop this right now.
3:33:34
If that's what you believe to be the case, I was trying to get on
3:33:36
with G-Man about other topics because I don't want there to be
3:33:39
a bunch of antagonism between us.
3:33:41
What? I've tried to emphasize the tag.
3:33:43
Miz. Mm, don't worry.
3:33:44
There's no butthurt juice happening here.
3:33:47
But you should your story you and Adam had a real good
3:33:50
discussion last time. Want you guys to part two, I
3:33:53
enjoyed that you guys are fascinating to me.
3:33:56
Go for it and let the man eat. Fucking popcorn.
3:34:00
Sure yeah I mean like Adam if you want to talk here I'm sorry.
3:34:05
I gotta be honest I'm tired of hearing about mean atheist.
3:34:08
Mean Christians words, let's have a good fun conversation
3:34:11
once you and Adam go out for a little bit when that man have
3:34:14
his dinner. Yeah, by all means and I'm just
3:34:17
going to say right off the bat to Adam, unless he wants to cut
3:34:20
in, if he wants to come in at any point, just unmute your mic
3:34:23
and interrupt me, you know, I can be a bit of a long-winded
3:34:25
person but I'm Sorry if I if it seemed like I wanted to debate
3:34:31
there, I'm only trying to understand different people's
3:34:33
viewpoints on things and that's why I'm Aidan.
3:34:37
We like debate. We like discussion.
3:34:39
That's fine. They were nobodies hating on
3:34:42
you. Aiden.
3:34:44
Are you, you feel like everybody's like hating or I'm
3:34:47
in training and shit? We're good, we're good.
3:34:49
Not gonna get into it with Adam over there we like a good fun
3:34:53
thing. Sure I am the bride up his.
3:34:55
He said he wanted me other that I wanted to be but go ahead.
3:34:57
Adam, I Know if you're if you're still here you've been muted up
3:35:00
the old the whole time. Go ahead Adam.
3:35:02
Yeah I'm here. I think.
3:35:04
Yeah like eight and I think that A debate, I think different
3:35:09
people mean, different things by it, but like, if you want to
3:35:12
have kind of what you, it seems like you're coming out this like
3:35:15
you have quotations and a structure to what you're trying
3:35:18
to present your argument and defend it.
3:35:20
And to me, it just seems like that is not what G-Men was
3:35:22
really trying to do today. But if you're in the mood, like
3:35:26
you seem like you, you are wanting to have that type of a
3:35:29
discussion, whether you call it a debate or not, I am up for
3:35:33
that type of discussion, but at the same time I think in the
3:35:36
past when we did talk about that, Zero kind of like well I
3:35:39
don't really know about this. I don't really know about that.
3:35:41
I'll have to get back to you. So yeah, there's there's
3:35:44
different levels of knowledge that I have about different
3:35:47
things and I'm in both of those discussions, what I've tried to
3:35:51
emphasize is trying to understand other people's
3:35:54
viewpoints, because I can't understand or have a discussion
3:35:58
with somebody properly if I don't understand their
3:36:00
viewpoints on things, so Yeah, I I was only coming at it with the
3:36:06
figures that I knew because I'm obviously going to try and quote
3:36:09
figures that I know about and I'm going to use those in
3:36:12
discussion with people the same way that I thought gee, man was
3:36:15
trying to do with me if he wasn't.
3:36:17
And I'm going to apologize to him right now.
3:36:19
I'm sorry. If I misinterpreted what you
3:36:21
were trying to do there, that's my bad.
3:36:23
I'm sorry guys. I don't know if you noticed the
3:36:26
title of the room but it says Hell in a Cell.
3:36:32
That sounds comforting. That isn't it?
3:36:34
Come on people. Let's get to it.
3:36:35
Let's hear a good discussion between you and Adam.
3:36:38
Yeah. What do you want to talk about
3:36:39
Adam? I mean I'm not too knowledgeable
3:36:42
about the whole earth expanding thing that we were talking about
3:36:45
last time so I don't know how much I can contribute to that.
3:36:47
But sure. We'll earlier today in the
3:36:49
comments section, you had brought up asteroids and
3:36:53
accumulation and accretion and stuff.
3:36:54
We started to have a little bit of a back-and-forth on that but
3:36:58
I think you took off for a while and came back.
3:36:59
Yeah, it was I was working and I had to get back to the, I'm
3:37:02
really grateful in the fact that I have a work from home job so I
3:37:05
can I can all admit. I Googled it on my phone, my
3:37:08
phone will also a little bit of philosophy of science of you
3:37:14
know, what is the theory? What is the scientific theory
3:37:17
and ways of interpreting evidence and proof?
3:37:21
Like I kind of said well I don't see proof or prove as really
3:37:24
being a very scientific term that that sort of thing.
3:37:28
I don't know if that's something that's of Interest.
3:37:30
Two people who was it, was it perfectly?
3:37:33
I thought and correct me if I'm wrong here I may have to go back
3:37:35
in the chat logs, it read it. But what I thought the term that
3:37:38
was in dispute was evidence. Was the one that was in dispute,
3:37:43
right? And then you had to go.
3:37:45
So no, I said prove was I mean you'll see people use the word
3:37:49
prove when they're talking about science but really sign a
3:37:53
scientific. I mean do you agree with that
3:37:55
that the science isn't about proving something?
3:37:58
No it's trying to observe real. The A and there's objective away
3:38:02
as possible. It's trying to.
3:38:05
I believe that's what science is.
3:38:06
Anyways is the most accurate observation of reality as
3:38:10
possible, right? But what so earlier, the point I
3:38:13
was trying to make is what we need to take into account
3:38:16
though, is we're going to take the same evidence and when we
3:38:21
have a preconceived Theory with certain axioms and assumptions,
3:38:25
that are part of our model, we're going to look at evidence
3:38:28
of certain rocks, or certainly Lee whatever it is and we're
3:38:32
going to interpret that evidence according to our model.
3:38:36
So in this, in the nebular hypothesis that rocks form
3:38:41
together in Clump to form asteroids, you're going to find
3:38:44
certain things that you observe and you're going to interpret it
3:38:47
as evidence that supports your model and there's going to be
3:38:51
the same evidence the same. In other words, the point I was
3:38:55
just the point. I was trying to make is the same
3:38:58
evidence can support. Two totally different models and
3:39:02
still be equally scientific dinosaur.
3:39:05
Bones can be interpreted according to one Theory or one
3:39:09
other Theory and the and that still evidence that assume that
3:39:13
supports a model. But there's certain parts of
3:39:17
that model that are not empirical their axiomatic, there
3:39:22
are axioms their assumptions. You start with certain things
3:39:26
that you think are Sort of that, you know what I mean by an axiom
3:39:31
or an assumption like it's like the starting point of what you
3:39:33
think is there without okay being able to prove that part or
3:39:37
without being able to substantiate that part with
3:39:38
evidence. Okay, maybe I'm wrong about
3:39:41
this, but I believe that an axiom was a statement that's so
3:39:44
evident and well established that it's accepted without
3:39:47
controversy or question. Right, right?
3:39:50
That's the basic idea. But people have a different
3:39:53
sense of what they think is self-evident.
3:39:56
I'll tell the theist. So if we talk about Evolution or
3:40:00
or biology right to or the flood the world wide foot so too.
3:40:05
I think actually that's a really good example to compare it to if
3:40:08
Kent hovind goes out and looks at the geological column in the
3:40:11
fossils and stuff, he's like, well, this is clearly evidence
3:40:16
that supports my Axiom of Of worldwide flood.
3:40:21
Yeah, but but I can look at it and say, well, this is evidence
3:40:26
that supports my axioms, right? Well, I think it's important,
3:40:31
I'm sorry, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you, go ahead but I
3:40:35
think it's important for the sake of the audience as well to
3:40:38
put this in context of how our conversation started and it
3:40:43
began as far as I remember when Just a Nobody and me were
3:40:47
talking in the comments there and Brett's.
3:40:49
At, and he was bringing up the mountains on the moon compared
3:40:52
to those on the earth and how they're much smaller than those
3:40:55
on the earth. And then it got brought up
3:40:56
earlier at the spherical nature of the Moon, as well.
3:40:59
And and the the context of that I believe is important in the
3:41:04
sense that I was only trying to talk about the fact that when
3:41:08
you go through the solar system and You observe all of these
3:41:10
different objects to be found within the solar system,
3:41:13
depending on how massive they are.
3:41:15
There seems to be a correlation not necessarily A causation
3:41:19
because Correlation does not always equal causation but a
3:41:22
correlation between the mass of objects and how rounded that
3:41:26
they are. It seems through what we've
3:41:28
observed that gravity has a habit depending on the mass of
3:41:31
an object to basically sculpt it into a increasingly spherical
3:41:36
object. So what I'm wondering is is in
3:41:40
the context of that you brought up afterwards, this idea of
3:41:44
whether or not it's axiomatic and taking two different things
3:41:47
and believing because what I believe you were talking about
3:41:50
earlier was two different people, they have the same set
3:41:53
of data and they come to Jim rassman.
3:41:55
Just let's just talk about that part that you just said, yeah.
3:41:58
Yeah. No, I'm do you see what I was
3:42:00
saying is the Assumption there? The Assumption and so far as do
3:42:05
follow when I'm saying that part that you said is an assumption.
3:42:08
Do you get what I'm saying? Or do you not know?
3:42:09
Yeah. No.
3:42:10
No I'm yeah, you I believe we're saying Tommy, the idea that what
3:42:16
I'm saying, and as far as the correlation between the size of
3:42:18
an object, the mass of an object and its spherical nature that
3:42:21
that's an assumption, I believe is what you're saying, that's
3:42:23
what I believe you're saying, you're kind of rewriting.
3:42:26
What you had said before them, what do you mean?
3:42:29
You didn't say there's a correlation between the size
3:42:31
that seems to fit with what gravity is tends to do or
3:42:36
something. Here, I'll go back and I'll
3:42:38
literally read what I said earlier in the chat.
3:42:40
I do want to be honest with this.
3:42:41
I'll go back, just give me one second.
3:42:42
Okay. Yeah, I was trying to find it.
3:42:46
I mean what? I can't scroll back.
3:42:49
Yeah, it's throwback so far. I can't do it either.
3:42:53
I can only scroll back. So anyways, your idea that the
3:42:57
Rocks grouped together to form an asteroid or a meteor is an
3:43:01
assumption. What I'm what I'm saying is, how
3:43:04
do you know? It didn't start out as something
3:43:06
bigger. In other words, you think it's
3:43:08
becoming more and more spherical, because of gravity.
3:43:10
How do you know? It didn't start out as a larger.
3:43:13
I shouldn't say start out, but how do you know that at an
3:43:15
earlier time? It wasn't a much larger sphere
3:43:18
that shrunk down and remained spherical because it started out
3:43:21
as a big sphere. I don't believe I wish that the
3:43:26
chat was there because I could definitively say whether or not
3:43:29
this is the case but I don't believe I mentioned at any point
3:43:32
different asteroids clumping together.
3:43:34
All that I was mentioning in that chat was the seeming
3:43:37
correlation that there was between the size of an object
3:43:40
and its spherical nature. I don't know to answer your
3:43:42
question, I don't know it whether or not I was the case
3:43:45
and whether or not these objects was not worried about what was
3:43:48
said in the past. Let's just talk about what we're
3:43:50
talking about here. If you believe in the nebular
3:43:54
This and you believe in plate tectonics and you presented
3:43:57
those as evidence instead of as assumptions of a theory.
3:44:03
So plate tectonics mantle convection is not an observed
3:44:08
phenomenon. Do you agree with that?
3:44:12
Now that you bring it up. Yeah, I haven't seen any
3:44:15
definitive data to back that up so I'd have to agree with you
3:44:17
there. So mantle convection is an
3:44:19
assumption of the plate tectonics model that is
3:44:24
supported by certain evidence that's interpreted as if it
3:44:26
supports that model. But it's not something that's
3:44:29
empirically substantiated, right?
3:44:31
Yeah. I've if what you're if what
3:44:34
you're trying to say here and correct me if I'm wrong.
3:44:37
But if what you're trying to say here is that you you're trying
3:44:40
to get me to say that. It is an assumption.
3:44:42
In that I was making earlier in the chat, then I can totally cop
3:44:45
to that. It is an assumption based on the
3:44:47
data that is present there. That, that was, in fact, the
3:44:49
case I haven't seen any definitive evidence as to
3:44:52
whether or not it's the case, but given what I know about the
3:44:55
subject, I was only trying to speak as far as what I know
3:44:58
about it. But yeah, I should have
3:44:59
qualified that earlier that it's an assumption and if I did try
3:45:03
to make it out to be that it was actual physical evidence than
3:45:06
that was dishonest of me. And I apologize for that.
3:45:10
Well, it's not that you're being dishonest.
3:45:12
I was just trying to clarify, like, you're talking like, this
3:45:14
is what we were discussing. Last time, is things along the
3:45:17
lines of problems with the nebular, hypothesis problems
3:45:20
with plate tectonics. And the way that you talk about
3:45:24
it is is different from, I don't know, I'm trying to be polite
3:45:30
but it's just it's not how it works.
3:45:33
And whenever I have pointed out like well no that's an
3:45:35
assumption as an axiom. You're like, no, it's not an
3:45:38
assumption. You said that to me multiple
3:45:39
times and I Like you don't actually understand what that
3:45:42
means. Like, you don't understand, I'm
3:45:44
not trying to be rude, but you don't seem to understand what
3:45:47
science is. I don't necessarily really know
3:45:55
how to respond to that by sides by telling you that in my
3:45:57
viewpoint. That science is the ability to
3:46:01
conduct observations of reality and to try to come to the most
3:46:05
compelling conclusion of how that reality goes about itself.
3:46:09
Given the data that we can gather of it now that could be
3:46:12
totally off. But that is just what I've come
3:46:15
to a conclusion of by what I've seen.
3:46:18
Demonstrated through things like the scientific method.
3:46:20
I could like I said Beach. You're wrong about that and I
3:46:22
could not understand what it's referring to.
3:46:27
I could totally be wrong about that.
3:46:29
Well, I think there's a part that you're kind of missing is
3:46:32
that you can look at the evidence we can have.
3:46:35
We can have agreed upon. There's, there's empirical
3:46:37
evidence that everyone in the room, everyone on the planet
3:46:39
agrees is observed and then we can come up with a hypothesis
3:46:46
but there's more to science than just doing that we can all agree
3:46:49
on the empirical evidence and we can come up with totally
3:46:53
different hypotheses which have different assumptions and then
3:46:56
we can interpret The evidence according to those models and
3:47:00
substantiate our Theory and we can go out and find new evidence
3:47:03
that supports our model for different reasons.
3:47:06
The same evidence can support vastly different theories.
3:47:14
Yeah. Can I try to give you an example
3:47:16
to try to demonstrate that? I understand what you're talking
3:47:19
about. Sure.
3:47:20
Yeah. But also I do want I'm
3:47:23
interested to how like what are you guys talking about with the
3:47:25
moon in the mountains on the moon and stuff.
3:47:27
Like if we can bring it back to that sounds interesting to you
3:47:30
and give you example to yeah, sure.
3:47:32
I'll give my example first. I believe what you're referring
3:47:35
to as far as coming to different conclusions based on the
3:47:38
evidence that is there is the idea that for example, you could
3:47:41
have two people sitting in a I'm sitting outside and one of them
3:47:45
goes, oh look at the sky, it's blue and both of those people
3:47:48
can agree with it. It seems to be an
3:47:50
incontrovertible fact, okay? The sky is blue but one of them
3:47:53
could go. Okay.
3:47:55
Well it seems that the sky is blue because the majority of the
3:47:58
surface of the Earth is in fact, blue that that is the, that is
3:48:01
the wavelength, which is reflected in the visible light
3:48:03
spectrum and that. Therefore, the vast
3:48:06
preponderance of that blue light is in fact, what is causing the
3:48:09
sky across the world to reflect blue, or at least to our eyes?
3:48:13
Whereas a different person could take the idea that the sky is
3:48:16
blue and come to a completely different conclusion as y or
3:48:20
not. That is the case.
3:48:20
I don't necessarily have an alternate theory on the top of
3:48:23
my head. But what I'm trying to say is
3:48:24
that two people agree on the same thing.
3:48:27
As far as that being there, the sky being blue but they have two
3:48:30
completely different ways of coming to that conclusion.
3:48:33
Is that what you're trying to say?
3:48:36
That's, I mean, kind of But without giving the example of
3:48:40
what you only gave one example of I know, I'm I'm trying to put
3:48:44
the best example. That's why I think.
3:48:46
I think the the nebular hypothesis thing in the
3:48:49
accretion of rocks and space is a really good example, you see,
3:48:54
Asteroids for some reason, as evidence of the nebular
3:48:57
hypothesis. Icy asteroids is evidence of the
3:49:02
nebular hypothesis. I I mean based on what you were
3:49:08
saying earlier, it seems that that's those are the assumptions
3:49:10
you're working with. No, I can definitely agree to
3:49:13
that the mistake your mouth. So let's say goodbye to him and
3:49:17
it should take less than two hours for all your videos to be
3:49:20
transferred. If you've got up to 1,000 of
3:49:22
them lesson, two hours. All right.
3:49:25
Is as nice talking with you G. Man, I'm sorry.
3:49:28
Still it. He between us I hope we can have
3:49:30
a better discussion next time I'm sorry, I came off as
3:49:33
trollish but have a good one. G-Men.
3:49:34
All right, you two, you guys have a good night.
3:49:36
Have a good night. Moon.
3:49:37
God bless man, later. All right.
3:49:42
Adam. Do you got one of your cool
3:49:43
pieces of art? You want to put up on the screen
3:49:46
so I can have you up there? Well, I could.
3:49:49
But this I have this image up specifically to talk about the
3:49:53
topic. Let's do that.
3:49:56
And that's cool. It's cool.
3:49:58
That looks like a roof. That's hateful.
3:50:01
Lovekins. Go ahead.
3:50:08
Oh, am I supposed to be the one that you should probably?
3:50:13
You should probably put like, this is the country at some
3:50:17
point in time that way. YouTube doesn't look at that and
3:50:20
go man, somebody died. What?
3:50:25
Because of all the red door? Well, if you look at it at a
3:50:29
glance it's like damn that looks like Mickey Mouse took a shit
3:50:32
after getting killed by Rambo. It's where I wow, that's I guess
3:50:36
that's an example of how two different people can see the
3:50:39
same thing and come to vastly different conclusion.
3:50:42
Why I got I got bad eyes. It took a moment for me to focus
3:50:45
and go. Oh, that's her world.
3:50:47
But continue our guys continue on your conversation.
3:50:50
Probably gonna grab me a cigarette.
3:50:52
Yeah, enjoy that. I'm blind in my left eye.
3:50:54
I'm not too much better as far as my site is concerned but I
3:50:57
guess what I would ask you, Adam give him what?
3:50:59
You got on the screen there is what relevance does this?
3:51:03
Have to what we were talking about?
3:51:04
I'm not trying to discredit it. I'm just add asking.
3:51:09
Well we could get into this in a minute but this is okay evidence
3:51:13
of the planet expanding. Okay though the different
3:51:16
colored layers we were talking about this last time.
3:51:19
Yeah the different colored layers represent ages of how old
3:51:23
the rock is. So the red the red indicates the
3:51:28
youngest and then as it gets yellow or those are older rocks
3:51:31
as it gets to the green and bluish.
3:51:33
Those are the oldest rocks of the continental crust.
3:51:37
It doesn't show the age of the ocean of the sir.
3:51:39
Of the oceanic crust. Okay, doesn't show the age of
3:51:42
the continental crust that the continents are much, much older,
3:51:47
but as you can see, the red part is the youngest.
3:51:50
Hmm. Yeah, I was reading that
3:51:52
backwards. Sorry.
3:51:54
And if you were to, if you were to remove the youngest layers,
3:51:58
you can see how everything will fit together.
3:52:04
Right? You can see you took out the
3:52:05
red. Just look at the the part like
3:52:09
the most obvious part kinda most obvious to everyone is if you
3:52:12
look at Africa and South America.
3:52:14
Yeah. If you took out that red part in
3:52:16
between, you can see how those yellow Parts would be touching.
3:52:20
Right? Yeah.
3:52:21
No II agree with you and I think about the Yellow Part.
3:52:24
The green Parts would be touching, right?
3:52:26
No, I hear you. I guess.
3:52:28
My only question is that, I mean, maybe like I was saying
3:52:31
before, I'm just reading this wrong.
3:52:34
But wouldn't the entire ocean? When the entire ocean?
3:52:37
And this map be colored in, I don't know why only certain
3:52:39
specific Parts because the vast majority of it is, but there
3:52:42
seems to be a lot of gaps in it as well.
3:52:44
I'm not quite normal, so our talk about the dark blue.
3:52:47
Oh, is that actually its own separate layer I thought that
3:52:50
was just ocean. Yeah, they're very dark blue.
3:52:53
I think the very dark blue is the continental shelf.
3:52:57
Oh, so even in like places, like the deep pacific there on the
3:53:00
far left and the far right there.
3:53:02
Those are not sure. Let me see, I'm because those
3:53:05
don't necessarily look like Continental shelves to me.
3:53:08
I'm not sure. But it looks like that's pretty
3:53:10
deep ocean and that it's a as far as the dark Blues,
3:53:14
Continental shelves, but I'm not 100% sure.
3:53:17
Okay, you know, this goes back to a I know it's a bit of a
3:53:21
mantra of mine, but I try to understand everything about
3:53:23
something before I approach in a discussion.
3:53:25
I know some people find that Yes, it's just how I work but I
3:53:31
guess I guess I can see through things like Africa and South
3:53:34
America. There's definitely some parts
3:53:36
that seem to fit together but there's other parts that don't
3:53:39
really seem to fit together much at all like Europe and North
3:53:42
America. Maybe there's a little bit of a
3:53:44
similarity between the project between Newfoundland and what is
3:53:49
that? The that that Aquatic Peninsula,
3:53:56
that's there between Spain, France and Brittany there.
3:54:02
Maybe there's a vague connection between those but they don't
3:54:05
look all that similar. Because what you're describing
3:54:08
to me, I would imagine that they would fit basically perfectly
3:54:12
together because what you've described to me is an idea of an
3:54:16
earth. That was there was no, there was
3:54:19
no ocean at one point in the early Earth, it was nothing but
3:54:22
land, it was a perfect fit It was basically, like, almost like
3:54:26
a jigsaw puzzle in the fact that at one point, they would
3:54:29
everything would fit perfectly together.
3:54:30
Would that be an accurate? Portrayal of what you see when
3:54:32
you say no ocean, that's very wrong.
3:54:36
Okay, there was no oceanic crust.
3:54:40
Okay, plan it had way more. The entire planet was covered in
3:54:45
depending on how far back you go hundreds or thousands of miles
3:54:48
of ocean. Okay.
3:54:51
I see but it wasn't it was on top of what is now the
3:54:53
continents, the Oceanic crust was not there.
3:54:59
A hundred 180 million years ago, is the oldest observed if you
3:55:04
believe in carbon dating and rock date, or, I don't know if
3:55:06
they use carbon dating whatever dating method, they use the
3:55:09
earliest rocks that they found in the ocean.
3:55:12
Are 180 million. That is not very long ago.
3:55:16
That's like the middle of the age of the dinosaurs.
3:55:21
Yeah. No, that would be compared to
3:55:23
some of the oldest rocks on the continents.
3:55:25
Four and a half billion. Yeah, yeah.
3:55:28
I live in Canada and some of the rocks that they've observed in
3:55:31
places like new phenomenon, known of it, rather and a callow
3:55:34
at places like that. Yeah, they have been carbon
3:55:37
dated and like you said, I don't know whether or not you ascribe
3:55:40
to that specific method of dating.
3:55:42
I think that it's fairly valid and part fairly accurate, not
3:55:44
100%. But it seems to be one of the
3:55:46
more accurate forms of dating. I'm just not, I don't know
3:55:51
enough about it, I know that there's certain things that it
3:55:53
can and cannot do. Yeah, but that's a good, that's
3:55:56
another good example of something where the same
3:55:58
evidence supports two different models.
3:56:03
So the way that South America and Africa fit together, he
3:56:07
supports plate plate, tectonic theory, and the standard Pangea
3:56:12
idea and expanding the expanding Earth model.
3:56:17
Well, there's also evidence Of that in common.
3:56:20
The there also seems to be evidence and this could
3:56:24
absolutely go right back into what you were saying, two
3:56:26
different models being directly, you know, evidence being
3:56:30
directly linked to two entirely different theories.
3:56:33
But you see preponderance has of animals that seem to only be
3:56:38
unique to land masses that were once interconnected with one
3:56:42
another like for instance the megafauna places like Australia
3:56:46
and Indonesia and Java, those kinds of places.
3:56:49
You seem to be rather unique to the rest of the world, even
3:56:52
though there is a vast separation between those
3:56:55
landmasses. It seems given the information
3:56:58
that has been presented the truth but you aren't on its in
3:57:01
Pangaea. They were far away.
3:57:03
I've been expanding Earth so you bring up a really good ear, sort
3:57:08
of anticipating the evidence of the expanding Earth model
3:57:11
without maybe realizing it where do we find it marsupials?
3:57:18
Yeah, where do we find it? In marsupials where do we find
3:57:23
the there's animals, called marsupials?
3:57:25
Where do we find them on the planet Earth?
3:57:27
What continents? We would primarily find them in
3:57:30
Australia, and New Zealand. And, like I said before,
3:57:33
southeast Asia and places, like the Indonesian archipelago.
3:57:37
Okay. Are you familiar, with where
3:57:38
else? We might find them?
3:57:40
Now, I can fossil evidence of Americans.
3:57:43
We find fossil evidence of marsupials in it, Antarctica,
3:57:48
and there's currently live. The only places that marsupials
3:57:51
live today naturally, unless they've been like brought their
3:57:55
unnaturally is in the Americas. Yeah, that's why I brought up
3:58:00
South America. I wasn't sure about Antarctica.
3:58:02
So that's interesting that you bring that up to the plate
3:58:06
tectonics model cannot explain that.
3:58:10
Enix in the expanding Earth model.
3:58:11
The Americas were touching. Well, I mean it's Julia and
3:58:17
Antarctica. Oh okay.
3:58:18
Next to each other. You're saying the Americans were
3:58:20
touching. Sorry, I thought that you were
3:58:21
saying like North they were touching Australia.
3:58:23
So okay, you could walk from Australia to America, okay, I
3:58:28
see what you're saying. So and that's what marsupials
3:58:31
did and Sunday Earth model they wouldn't have.
3:58:36
There was no way that they could have come about through
3:58:38
supercontinents like gondwana or things like that, which are said
3:58:42
to have broken up about 180 million years ago actually.
3:58:45
The same time as what you were saying the, the latest ocean
3:58:48
tectonics have been. Or they do they what was it?
3:58:52
The Oceania broad common, because that's the same thing as
3:58:54
Pangaea. Like they're both taking the
3:58:56
same. This map is not a an expanded
3:58:59
Earth Map. This is a National Geographic
3:59:01
map. That's that people think
3:59:03
supports plate tectonics. Okay.
3:59:07
Like this isn't some random you know Fringe alternative map or
3:59:12
something. Now this is a standard map from
3:59:14
a geology textbook. Yeah, this is considered to be
3:59:16
the mainstream. If you could use that word in
3:59:18
this context, the mainstream is what this is what plate
3:59:21
tectonics. The plate tectonics model
3:59:23
teaches is that marsupials used to be all over and then they
3:59:27
died out in Asia and Africa and all these places and they just
3:59:34
happen to be left over. In Australia and the Americas.
3:59:39
But they just happened to for some reason died out in the all
3:59:42
the land in between on the Pangaea model.
3:59:45
Okay. Which is extremely unlikely?
3:59:49
No, I got a thing is every single animal that has something
3:59:53
in common. So you have things like wolves
3:59:56
and Tasmanian walls. You have things like these
3:59:59
large. Jackrabbits that resemble
4:00:01
wallabies and Kangaroo, you have so many examples of cats and all
4:00:06
cats, foxes and quote-unquote marsupial.
4:00:09
Foxes, almost every single placental mammal has an
4:00:14
equivalent marsupial mammal. That if you believe in the
4:00:18
Pangaea model with standard plate tectonics, you have to
4:00:23
believe that all of those are coincidental instances of
4:00:28
convergent evolution, where they coincidentally evolve to look
4:00:33
like a cat. Even though they're unrelated,
4:00:35
they coincidentally evolve. Look like a fox are a pig.
4:00:39
I'm trees aren't trees. A really good example of
4:00:42
convergent evolution though. I mean, you look at the vast
4:00:45
preponderance of different species of trees and all of them
4:00:48
have vastly different Origins. As far as we can, at least Trace
4:00:51
through things, like the fossil record, you have these
4:00:53
different, let me look at the specific data.
4:00:56
I don't want to just talk out of my ass or subject to we were
4:01:00
talking about being privileged in general.
4:01:02
We're talking about oh no virtually every single type of
4:01:06
placental mammal has a corresponding marsupial and
4:01:11
that's attributed to a coincidental convergent
4:01:15
evolution in the model that you support.
4:01:17
Okay, sorry I wasn't trying to change the subject.
4:01:19
You brought up convergent evolution for that specific
4:01:22
group of creatures saying that there's no conversions.
4:01:25
No, I was, I was only trying to bring up trees because I thought
4:01:28
that that would have been equivalent to what you're
4:01:29
talking about, but if it isn't in the context we were talking
4:01:32
about, then I was just misunderstood And in what you
4:01:34
were saying. Sorry about that.
4:01:36
What might be? I don't know.
4:01:37
What was the true example you're going to say?
4:01:40
Well the what I was trying to bring up was the fact that here
4:01:44
let me look up. I just want to because I
4:01:46
listened I listen to a lecture about this a while back.
4:01:49
You mind if you just give me a second to Google here.
4:01:51
Yeah, I'm back. I've just tuner and some chicken
4:01:56
have me a cigarette. Now with the wife a little bit,
4:01:59
she's feeding the cats. I tell you about our new pet, we
4:02:02
got there at them. Oh, I didn't know you didn't
4:02:06
well, besides the 20 cats that apparently of come up through
4:02:10
the woods to live at our house. We now have three raccoons and
4:02:14
one of them is paralyzed from the legs down.
4:02:17
So it's like sides across the yard and everything.
4:02:20
But it seems to be the raccoon seem to be getting along with
4:02:25
the cats and the cats get along with them.
4:02:27
Just as long as the Cats, Don't Go Near The Hot Dogs, which are
4:02:30
direct Koontz. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, so it is
4:02:33
what it is. Method. 1 raccoon the hot dog
4:02:36
there. Oh, but the paralyzed raccoons
4:02:40
and that something. Can I bring something up really
4:02:43
quickly. And I only bring this up because
4:02:44
it was actually it's been on my mind ever since.
4:02:46
We had our last conversation. And I really wanted to get your
4:02:48
opinion on this address, bring it back to this in just a moment
4:02:52
here, but I wanted to get your opinion on this who me or Adam.
4:02:56
Adam. Okay, well we're done raccoons
4:02:59
now. Oh God, I'm sorry.
4:03:01
No, go ahead, go ahead, carry on if iCarly.
4:03:15
I was just talking about how there's corresponding versions
4:03:18
of mammals that give live birth and and marsupials there, right?
4:03:25
Well, I was hearing about the convergence same.
4:03:28
Same with the raccoons to there's a there's like an
4:03:30
Australian version of something that looks very similar to a
4:03:33
raccoon. Supposedly if you believe the
4:03:36
standard version of mainstream science just coincidentally
4:03:40
evolve to look very similar to a raccoon even though they're
4:03:43
unrelated, but go ahead. I was going to mention.
4:03:50
Do you ascribe to the idea that roughly about 6,000 about 6000
4:03:56
years ago with the last ice age? As we know it, I guess.
4:03:59
Did the ice ages as we know them actually occur in your opinion?
4:04:03
Do you think? That the ice ages.
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These Ages were glaciation of the Earth was far greater than
4:04:08
it was today. Do you believe that, that was,
4:04:10
in fact, the case, I don't know, I'm looking into the evidence of
4:04:15
that. I'm really skeptical of some of
4:04:17
the claims that are making. Because if you look into what
4:04:20
they interpret as interpreted as evidence of glaciation, it's
4:04:25
often just these are called drop Stones, you know what that is?
4:04:31
Yes, I believe the drop stones come from the stones that are
4:04:36
embedded within glaciers as they move about, right?
4:04:39
So that's your assumption, but there, I believe I said, there's
4:04:43
a lot of things that drop stones come from, not just from
4:04:45
glaciers. So hey, hey.
4:04:47
Before you guys get too far and icicles and all this crazy shit.
4:04:52
Can I ask you about something? You just said Adam?
4:04:56
Yes, go ahead. Just real quick.
4:04:59
For you guys get way off the topic and I don't want it to
4:05:02
seem like the Twilight Zone coming back at it with my
4:05:05
photographic memory. But you were saying that there's
4:05:07
a creature out there that looks a great deal like a raccoon but
4:05:10
they're not the same type of deal.
4:05:12
Yeah, my question for you is even if someone were to
4:05:15
hypothetically, say, okay there, there they'll go towards the
4:05:20
concept of evolution. Do you believe that there are
4:05:23
some creatures that could go through some kind of genetic
4:05:26
process because of their blueprint as where others Number
4:05:29
change. I don't know if I quite
4:05:34
understand what you're asking. Okay, so usually it is bleed
4:05:38
through Evolution that everything seems to have this
4:05:41
ability to go through these changes and do all this crazy
4:05:44
shit and variety and diversity and all that.
4:05:46
Do you believe that about All Creatures or do you think there
4:05:49
are some creatures that never evolve or make any changes
4:05:53
whatsoever? Well from what we observe there
4:05:58
seem to be certain fish for example.
4:06:02
That look almost exactly the same as the fossil evidence from
4:06:07
what is interpreted as being, I don't know however many hundreds
4:06:11
of millions of years ago. So for some reason, there seem
4:06:15
to be certain animals that don't really change and then certain
4:06:19
animals that have changed a lot. And I think that's a major flaw
4:06:24
with the what the theory the like if you just took what
4:06:27
Darwin said, it shouldn't be possible that a species could
4:06:31
remain in state. That's what they call it static,
4:06:33
or it's in stasis, where it doesn't evolve if what dark if
4:06:37
you just took what Darwin was saying, it wouldn't really be
4:06:40
possible for something, not to evolve, it would have to change
4:06:43
eventually. It wouldn't be able to stop from
4:06:45
a from some kind of mutation and variation so that it's, it's
4:06:51
sort of a to me. It seems like well I haven't
4:06:54
looked too deeply into Evolution so it's something I don't know
4:06:57
what if there is an explanation for what it is.
4:07:00
But for me, personally, it just Seems like a major issue with
4:07:04
the theory could I could I build up a little a little bit upon
4:07:09
what you said there at them. You can.
4:07:11
But I didn't want to pull you guys away from your discussion
4:07:15
that the about the ice, cubes and all that.
4:07:18
Yeah, it's just one thing. And then I'll get right back to
4:07:20
what we were talking about what I've heard from my fiance and
4:07:25
she's been studying biology, and I actually asked her a pretty
4:07:28
similar question actually. And the explanation that she
4:07:31
gave me a while Back was, is that there are period, there are
4:07:35
parts of the earth, like on this map that you have here.
4:07:37
You look at places like the Congo rainforest, the Amazon
4:07:40
rainforest that as far back as times.
4:07:44
Like the Carboniferous period where it seems through what
4:07:48
we've seen through things. Like the fossil record that
4:07:51
rainforests as we know of them today, dominated a far larger
4:07:55
surface area of the planet. If they ended up receding at one
4:07:59
point or another, whether or not it was the ice age that Cause
4:08:02
this, whether or not it was any Myriad of factors that caused
4:08:05
it? They don't know for sure.
4:08:06
And I can't claim to know either but what we seem to observe is
4:08:10
that these rainforests shrink over time and that they
4:08:13
eventually get to the point where we see them today.
4:08:16
However these species that you're talking about that are
4:08:19
static. The vast majority of them seem
4:08:22
to be observed to be living in areas like the Amazon today
4:08:26
because the environments in places like the Amazon and the
4:08:30
Congo and the Indonesian rainforest.
4:08:32
Have been by far compared to every other environments on the
4:08:35
earth. The least changing in terms of
4:08:37
overall temperature in terms of rainfall, in terms of wind
4:08:41
patterns, in terms of all of these different things that
4:08:44
would encourage the evolution of different species that would
4:08:47
cause speciation to occur, okay? But if mutations lead to
4:08:53
differences, how could A species go for hundreds of millions of
4:08:59
years without mutating and changing.
4:09:02
Because it seems an evolution that mutations only primarily
4:09:05
propagate and species at least spread far in a species to the
4:09:09
point where speciation occurs, when there's environmental
4:09:12
pressures that caused those mutations to be advantageous.
4:09:16
But the environment, how does the environment prevent it from
4:09:20
changing? That doesn't make sense.
4:09:22
The claim is that there's mutations and then there's
4:09:25
variance. There's and then the environment
4:09:27
selects for which ones are advantageous, but you can't have
4:09:31
if Darwin what Darwin said has been falsified, he there is no
4:09:38
With just darwinian Evolution. I'm not saying evolution in
4:09:41
general but just the darwinian brand, you can't have hundreds
4:09:46
of millions of years of the same animal.
4:09:47
Staying the same way, it's not possible in darwinian evolution,
4:09:51
well, in evolution as far as what I've as far as what has
4:09:55
been described to me. The environment is absolutely.
4:09:58
The primary propagating force of different mutations spreading.
4:10:02
I'm not trying to say that. Hold on, hold on, selecting for
4:10:06
certain, yes. Of course, there are going to be
4:10:09
outliers as far as there are mutations that occur within
4:10:13
specific individuals in those environments.
4:10:15
I'm not going to deny that. However, it doesn't seem like
4:10:19
those mutations get very far in terms of the selection process.
4:10:23
When there isn't environmental pressures present there for them
4:10:27
to be spread, for instance, if there was a bear, like, the
4:10:31
polar bear that we see nowadays in places, like in places, like
4:10:35
the Hudson Bay or the Russian steppe, They wouldn't, it seems
4:10:40
have evolved the ability to have transparent fur.
4:10:43
If the evolutionary pressures of the environment, did not make it
4:10:47
advantageous. Given the fact on how Evolution
4:10:50
works, the ability for a bear to turn into a polar bear, has to
4:10:56
exist without polar environment and then the environment has to
4:11:00
select for that polar trait to become more popular.
4:11:06
Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, though.
4:11:07
Is that if there is a polar environment that is present
4:11:11
where the color white, or the lack of color because that's
4:11:14
what I believe what it is or is it every color?
4:11:16
I'm not sure, but the presence of this extremely white
4:11:20
environment, it would not be advantageous that they bear
4:11:23
evolved the ability to have transparent.
4:11:26
Fur. It would stick out like a sore
4:11:28
thumb in a conventional environment like the forests and
4:11:31
the boreal forests, the temperate forests, the Great
4:11:34
Plains. There is no Advantage present in
4:11:37
evolving. That trait.
4:11:38
So there may have been a bear at one point or another that had
4:11:41
this trait. But it wouldn't have been
4:11:44
advantageous enough to have been selected over a large period of
4:11:48
time. Because I'm sure as you know,
4:11:50
through what's been described in evolution these changes, these
4:11:53
speciation 's that occur, take a very long period of time.
4:11:57
They take thousands to millions of years depending on what scale
4:12:00
of a creature. Your talk, that's not what we
4:12:02
observe either. What are you talking about?
4:12:05
We observe very long periods of stasis with no change at all.
4:12:10
And then sudden, drastic differences that didn't come
4:12:16
about gradually, that's called punctuated equilibrium.
4:12:19
Could you give me an example of a sudden Changes, Everything You
4:12:23
observe? And Stephen, Jay Gould
4:12:26
punctuated, equilibrium they had to modify the theory because
4:12:30
they're finding that the idea of gradualism is not what were
4:12:34
observing, it doesn't slightly change a little bit and then
4:12:37
I'll change a little bit like this and get increasingly more
4:12:40
and more like some other different thing.
4:12:42
You see very long periods of no change.
4:12:46
And that just suddenly on the st.
4:12:48
You go from fish for hundreds and hundreds of millions of
4:12:51
years to suddenly frogs. There's not, there's like one or
4:12:57
two or three fossils. We've ever found that look like
4:13:00
something in between a fish and a Frog.
4:13:02
Well it doesn't read what the theory claims is that we should
4:13:05
slowly gradually every 10, 20, 50 million years, we should
4:13:10
start to see it increasingly get more and more frog-like.
4:13:13
We don't observe that. We observe a very long period of
4:13:16
stasis and then suddenly just something very different is on
4:13:20
the scene and if you look really close, you might be able to find
4:13:23
something that might be in. But it has an intermediate, but
4:13:27
for a lot of species, it's not any kind of slow, gradual thing,
4:13:30
that slowly becomes as different thing.
4:13:34
One of the things that we seem to observe in evolution is that
4:13:38
these transitional fossils that we find.
4:13:41
As far as the preponderance of fossils that we see in the
4:13:43
fossil record are much rarer of An Occurrence, then we would see
4:13:48
of conventional species after they've undergone speciation,
4:13:51
for example of the to hold on for example predicts Well, that
4:13:55
doesn't necessarily contradicted.
4:13:57
It would have it would have Contra, hold on, hold on given
4:14:00
the current evidence that we have.
4:14:01
I won't disagree with you but the same would have applied
4:14:04
before we found a species. Like the tiktaalik, that was a
4:14:07
transitional species between what you were talking about
4:14:10
between a fish. And between a land roaming
4:14:13
animal. That would only go up onto land
4:14:15
for very limited series of time. What the tiktaalik is an
4:14:18
assumption That detect Alec walked on land is an assumption.
4:14:23
How do you even know that there was dry land?
4:14:26
You don't even know that there was dry land yet.
4:14:28
How do I know that there was a dry land because we see plant
4:14:31
species that were not aquatic at this point in time in the fossil
4:14:34
record. Okay?
4:14:35
Name. One name, one plant species that
4:14:39
was not as long as you want. Even if you go for six years in
4:14:42
research at name one species, that is a species of plant.
4:14:46
That's not aquatic. That is observed in the fall.
4:14:50
Record around the time of tiktaalik.
4:14:52
Sure, I'll be right back. It isn't there?
4:14:57
There's an assumption that there was dry land, but there's this.
4:15:02
It's like if you start with the assumption that the planet is a
4:15:06
dry planet with water added to it, they're going to interpret
4:15:10
the evidence that way. If you think that the planet is
4:15:13
an ocean world. And you look at the evidence
4:15:16
The, the emergence of anything that that seems to indicate for
4:15:22
sure. There was dry land comes way,
4:15:24
way way later. I'm here, I don't know if we got
4:15:33
six thousand years so I might evolve
4:15:46
here you there. Yeah.
4:15:49
Sorry, I'm not trying to call your bluff or anything.
4:15:52
I just want to find, I just want to find whether or not, this is
4:15:54
the case for myself, and if I can't find anything, then I'll
4:15:57
totally cop this back to you. And I will totally yield this to
4:16:00
you. I just want to buy a piece of
4:16:01
information. If you don't know specifically
4:16:03
what you're talking about, the plants that we see that are
4:16:06
supposedly the first plants to go on what is interpreted as dry
4:16:10
land, is things like mosses. And yeah, like and Ferns and
4:16:13
what are those things called horsetails and stuff.
4:16:16
These are all aquatic plants you Like we said, they're finding
4:16:20
non aquatic plants. What even isn't on aquatic plant
4:16:25
Well, I'm not aquatic pad being one that does not spend its life
4:16:28
immersed in water. So like a cactus for example is
4:16:31
we can agree as a non aquatic plant.
4:16:33
It is a kind of non aquatic plant.
4:16:35
Yes. What is another example of an on
4:16:38
aquatic plant. All variety of different ones,
4:16:42
pine trees, oak trees. Any one of these know that
4:16:45
they're not aquatic because they don't spend that.
4:16:48
Do you see an oak tree right now?
4:16:49
Immersed in water for all of its life.
4:16:52
Yes, totally completely 100% immersed in the water.
4:16:55
If you could find me an example of that and there might well be
4:16:58
one and now we'll think about what do you think of swamp is 0?
4:17:02
There are definitely plenty of plants in a swamp that you're
4:17:05
partially immersed in water, but you don't really see a lot of
4:17:07
trees or other land or other plants Within Those swamps that
4:17:11
are completely immersed in water.
4:17:12
I'm not talking about those subjects, not subsidized merged.
4:17:16
I guess that would be the best terms that are parcel partially
4:17:19
submerged with in the water. Yeah, there are plenty of those
4:17:22
that you can find just the same as there are plenty of
4:17:25
completely aquatic plants. But what I'm talking about are
4:17:28
plants that you see in nature, like I was talking about, like,
4:17:31
birch trees, like oak trees, like, pine trees, all of these
4:17:35
different plants that seem to have a pretty extreme
4:17:39
preference. If not, Exclusive.
4:17:42
Environment completely on land maybe there are 0311.
4:17:47
What, what is a plant that seems to prefer exclusively dry land?
4:17:51
Besides, maybe a cactus, which occurs only 50 million years
4:17:55
ago. Cactuses did it or not on the
4:18:02
scene until just only 50. That's a blink of an eye.
4:18:05
That's like, That's a long time for there to be land out there
4:18:11
and then finally, a cactus shows of I love you.
4:18:17
Sorry, my fiance gaming. Like it's kind of a chat.
4:18:21
It's kind of a hard problem because I thought about this for
4:18:23
a while now because I believed that the Earth was covered in
4:18:26
water, a lot of water and it's hard to find something that's
4:18:31
conclusively, land-based that isn't also something that could
4:18:35
just go live in the water as well.
4:18:37
Like like you might think of like a turtle living in the
4:18:39
desert but there's sea turtles. You might think.
4:18:42
You know what I mean? Like anything you think of
4:18:43
grass? Maybe.
4:18:44
Oh well there's seagrass. Well here, let me give you an
4:18:46
example even beyond what I can currently find.
4:18:49
If you ever owned Lance before Adam.
4:18:53
I mean, I haven't really I have had a couple house plants but
4:18:56
not really very much have you tried immersing them completely
4:19:00
in water. I don't I don't have house
4:19:03
plants. And no, I didn't immerse them in
4:19:04
water, but I've looked into whether plant how long certain
4:19:08
plants can survive underwater in regards to this question?
4:19:11
And it, but they can survive for very, very long time.
4:19:14
That doesn't read and trees are not able to evolve.
4:19:18
You guys don't think trees are able to evolve.
4:19:21
No, trees evolve. Yeah, they do.
4:19:23
I like 300 million years ago. There weren't the the types of
4:19:26
plants to Aid in is claiming were around at the same time and
4:19:29
then the like, the late devonian period All right, fair enough.
4:19:34
Fair enough. What were you getting trees?
4:19:37
300 million years ago. You guys got a little bit off
4:19:40
and I was interested in hearing. What you guys were saying about
4:19:42
the whole, the ice thing that you were getting into.
4:19:48
I do got a question for you though.
4:19:50
Do Aiden, you believe the whole world was covered in ice?
4:19:55
Oh, ice ages, that's okay. Yeah, yeah.
4:19:57
No. We were, yeah, we were talking
4:19:58
about ice ages earlier. Yeah.
4:20:00
When I was trying to get at with Adam, what will hold on.
4:20:03
Made me believe the whole world was covered tonight.
4:20:06
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
4:20:08
No, I do believe that snowball Earth was actually something
4:20:11
that did occur at one point in time and whatever you do,
4:20:14
believe that the Earth was once covered in water.
4:20:17
Bear. Got in solid water.
4:20:20
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
4:20:21
I mean it's always nice. The conversion 80s.
4:20:28
You're a very honest person. Why do you believe that in a
4:20:31
snowball Earth? Because you looked into evidence
4:20:34
and interpret it according to more than one possibility or
4:20:37
because that is what is generally taught or something
4:20:41
else? Do ya.
4:20:43
If I'm completely honest with you it's because that is what
4:20:45
has been generally taught and I've ascribe that to be true
4:20:48
because of that and even more than us, Needed.
4:20:51
It's true. It's true.
4:20:53
You know, if you look into it because this is the thing I used
4:20:56
to think I used to believe in these snowball Earth the
4:20:58
scenarios to and I think it's possible that the the top of the
4:21:01
water might have had icebergs and stuff but the like the some
4:21:06
of the evidence for a snowball Earth is these drop stones and
4:21:09
the scraping of supposedly dry land with icebergs which just
4:21:14
doesn't fit into what I think is going on.
4:21:19
If you look so when you so I'm like Like, we'll wait a minute.
4:21:21
This seems like a contradiction. What, what could be going on?
4:21:24
My model might be wrong. Here you go.
4:21:27
Look into it. Drop stones are caused by
4:21:30
volcanoes, by ocean currents, by all kinds of stuff.
4:21:34
Meteorites, like there's so many things that can cause drop
4:21:37
stones. So Glaciers are one of the ten
4:21:41
things that might cause it. Well, I was I was actually going
4:21:44
to try and give you something in the fact that the more I've
4:21:48
looked into things like the Ice Age.
4:21:49
One of the big things that's made me question, its validity,
4:21:52
and I will agree with you, by the way, that if there was a
4:21:55
snowball Earth there, definitely was a layer of ice that had
4:22:00
water underneath it because those are the properties of ice
4:22:03
and water that we can observe. Is that water is an extremely
4:22:06
unique chemical makeup and that Solid mass is less dense than
4:22:10
its liquid. But anyways, one of the things
4:22:15
that I made me really skeptical about it was the fact that
4:22:17
supposedly according to this cycle quote-unquote that we've
4:22:21
observed over the Earth's history that the Earth will
4:22:24
slowly warm and cool. Is that according to those
4:22:27
theories, the ice age as we know it should it began about 4,000
4:22:31
years ago during 2000 BC. The thing that I'd heard for a
4:22:34
very long time was well the reason why it hasn't happened is
4:22:37
because of the releasing of Greenhouse gases by Pete like
4:22:40
Humanity that has slowed that down, but you look at 2000 BC.
4:22:44
Our carbon footprint was basically nothing as it is.
4:22:47
That something we can agree on. Is that 4,000 years ago there
4:22:50
was basically no carbon depends on when counting because the
4:22:54
deforestation and burning down forests would be part of that.
4:22:58
Oh yeah. You mean like acts that were
4:23:00
committed by people like the aboriginals of Australia.
4:23:04
Not just the when you went like unto a land covered in a bunch
4:23:10
of trees and they want to live there, they tend to chop them
4:23:13
down and burn them down as a consequence of Agriculture.
4:23:16
Yes, which seem to be taking place in a around this time and
4:23:19
huge suede's. You're right.
4:23:21
Britain is actually another great example of that especially
4:23:23
during the Bronze Age, which is about the time that we're
4:23:26
talking about your right. There used to be evidence of the
4:23:29
entire island of Great Britain, being completely forest.
4:23:33
And basically, Side smaller areas.
4:23:35
But that over a very rapid period of time those things,
4:23:39
those forests rather seemed to have been depleted.
4:23:41
So yeah, I agree with you in that there seems to have been a
4:23:44
lot of slashing and burning going on that point.
4:23:47
A lot of deforestation, but the amount of carbon output that,
4:23:51
that would have produced compared to that, which we
4:23:53
create today would be pretty miniscule.
4:23:56
At least in the fact that, yeah, you're talking about fairly
4:24:00
large areas of land, but it's the amount of Trees, that would
4:24:04
have had to have been burnt to really affect the total climate
4:24:08
of the earth that we can observe would have had to have been a
4:24:10
truly cataclysmic event. Something like, you would have
4:24:13
seen in the asteroid impact because I'm sure we can agree
4:24:17
that whether or not it killed the dinosaurs whether or not
4:24:20
that's true. There was in fact, 66 million
4:24:23
years ago there was a 12 km diameter asteroid that hit the
4:24:26
earth and that did find them. I thought that we could agree on
4:24:32
that. I said copper I said, For a
4:24:34
reason because I didn't want anything.
4:24:37
I am skeptical of the claims of the chicxulub impact, because
4:24:42
when you look into the evidence of it, it's I do think that
4:24:45
there, it's something where there's, there's some indirect
4:24:50
evidence that it's a possibility.
4:24:53
But if you compare the images that they show in a science
4:24:57
article to what you actually look into its greatly,
4:25:02
exaggerated, how definitive that evidences and the What is it
4:25:08
called? Iridium, right.
4:25:09
You can get an iridium layer. That's 50 times as much iridium
4:25:13
just from ordinary geological processes.
4:25:17
That there's a, there's like a compactification thing where you
4:25:20
can have 10 times as much stuff in one area, just because it
4:25:23
took longer to develop or something like that.
4:25:26
So the interpretation that the Iridium is even higher is just
4:25:30
again a sort of. Hmm.
4:25:32
It's it's substantiated by evidence but it's an assumption.
4:25:35
It's something that It might have happened or probably
4:25:38
happened, but the the even if you interpret the gravitational
4:25:42
anomalies as an impact, you, I think you might already know
4:25:45
this. Aiden.
4:25:46
It had to have come in at this like angle.
4:25:49
Yeah, like it wasn't a direct hit.
4:25:51
If know if you interpret that evidence as an impact, if that
4:25:55
was an impact it would have been a canted angle impact.
4:25:58
It wouldn't have been a direct blow.
4:26:00
No, I hear you. It seemed and why would a meteor
4:26:03
impact kill only dinosaurs? No, I hear you and like that's I
4:26:07
was saying at the beginning was that I was trying to establish
4:26:10
that I already know that you don't ascribe to the idea that
4:26:14
that killed the dinosaurs and the more that I look into it,
4:26:17
you're right there is a period of at the least. 100,000 years.
4:26:21
I did hear that. Part of the show, there was a
4:26:24
period of at least 100,000 years before the impact of that of the
4:26:28
meteor and the extinction events that we see of this vast
4:26:32
preponderance of dinosaurs going extinct.
4:26:35
And as far, Far as I know the, the devonian extinction as far
4:26:40
as observable Mass die-offs, we've seen in the planet is
4:26:44
actually pretty minor compared to events.
4:26:46
Like the great dying. It's actually been one of the
4:26:48
more minor ones as far as the extinction events, we've
4:26:52
observed across the planet. I do agree that there was a mass
4:26:55
die-off of creatures item about that period of time about 65
4:27:00
million years ago. However, whether or not that was
4:27:03
definitively caused by the educator Lua impact, like you
4:27:06
were talking. About, I'm not sure because I
4:27:08
haven't seen sufficient evidence to validate that either, you
4:27:11
know, brackeen was talking earlier, about Dino farts and
4:27:15
now, that may have played a role in it and I don't know it very
4:27:20
possibly could have in the sense that we see through things,
4:27:22
like, the huge preponderance of cattle that we have today, at
4:27:25
putting a huge amount of methane into the atmosphere that they do
4:27:29
that. When you have a huge population
4:27:31
of creatures, these very large creatures, these very heavyset,
4:27:35
we times Parts only killed dinosaurs Aiden as well as Adam.
4:27:39
I got to warn you both since you may be an agreement or and
4:27:42
dinosaur gasoline shooting around the earth.
4:27:46
There's a lot of atheists are pissed at that and they're angry
4:27:49
and want to kill. Matt, Powell over this claim.
4:27:52
So just letting you guys know you're not allowed to agree with
4:27:55
me on the dinosaur farts. Oh, the dinosaur for theory is
4:27:58
retarded. So you're basically saying, if
4:28:05
dinosaurs are farting, Then why the fuck are they the only ones
4:28:09
choking on their own farts, but we're why is he other animal
4:28:12
surviving? That's well I wouldn't take 200
4:28:15
million years for them the time from their part Casas.
4:28:18
It doesn't make it nothing about it makes any fucking a nice
4:28:20
whatsoever. Can I address the point you made
4:28:22
earlier in that? Why did they do and they kill
4:28:24
dinosaurs, do you consider, would you consider 20% of all
4:28:28
marine life at that period of time to be dinosaurs as well?
4:28:33
Well, I know that if you interpret the fossil evidence,
4:28:36
as these Extinction events, right, which I don't think you
4:28:39
necessarily necessarily have to, it's just a ratio of fossils.
4:28:43
And when we see them last occurring, they Dawkins, for
4:28:46
example, believes that a lot of supposed Extinction events are
4:28:49
just migration things, but if we are to interpret it, as
4:28:53
Extinction events. Yeah.
4:28:55
A lot of marine species died a lot.
4:28:57
It wasn't just dinosaurs. That were well.
4:29:01
That's what you said though. What I'm saying is why would why
4:29:05
would it kill off only dinosaurs to a point of total Extinction?
4:29:10
Well, it seems that actually is a matter of fact.
4:29:13
Yeah sure, it hit that specific species, very hard, but
4:29:16
dinosaurs are only a very small subset of all land creatures on
4:29:20
the planet. But there were plenty of Marines
4:29:22
teaching. What the question isn't, what
4:29:25
does mainstream science claim that you keep saying over and
4:29:28
over again? Why would that be the case?
4:29:33
Well, my argument for that would be that dinosaurs are only one
4:29:36
subset. One subset of the totality of
4:29:40
life on Earth that was entirely wiped out with this event.
4:29:43
There were plenty of other creatures as far as aquatic
4:29:46
creatures, which is why I brought them up entire subsets
4:29:48
of them that went extinct during this event as well.
4:29:53
Right. But I guess you're not getting
4:29:54
what I'm saying. Dinosaurs as an entire group of
4:29:58
a type of animal. Hmm.
4:30:01
Supposedly went completely extinct rather abruptly.
4:30:04
According to this interpretation, Why was this,
4:30:09
the only large group of animals that went completely extinct
4:30:12
like, yeah, if you interpret it as an Extinction event, it
4:30:15
impacted marine life and impacted birds that impacted
4:30:18
this and impacted insects at impact, that and impacted a
4:30:21
whole bunch of stuff. But nothing was impacted so much
4:30:24
as the dinosaurs to a point where they were the dominant
4:30:28
animal for hundreds of millions of years.
4:30:31
Well, yes, it's the age of the dinosaurs.
4:30:34
It's called me, sorry, sorry, my bad go ahead jus-just.
4:30:38
Supposedly just going out well, in a blink, a light, it seems
4:30:44
like that's not necessarily the case, the one that seems to be
4:30:48
commonly purported to be the dominant species on the planet
4:30:51
at least, in terms of their total numbers would be animals.
4:30:53
Like the trial of B, which actually, they endured much
4:30:55
harsher. Extinctions are Extinction
4:30:57
events earlier on, then this Extinction event, try the brakes
4:31:01
were not the most common animals during the time of the the end
4:31:04
of the Cretaceous in terms of their variance on the earth and
4:31:08
their total number of their populations.
4:31:11
Yeah, to trial it. Bites were almost completely
4:31:13
dead by then without some kind of Extinction event and
4:31:17
troglodyte complicates like, if you take into account the entire
4:31:23
history, prior to that, yeah, trial.
4:31:25
And I thought, what are they calling?
4:31:26
The trilobites, troglodytes, ethical dog would B.
4:31:30
Troglobites, I love it. Like they were already dying
4:31:33
off. They were already diminishing
4:31:34
and diminishing a diminishing. Okay, no, whatever changes
4:31:39
happened. 66 million years ago. However, long ago was may have
4:31:44
been the one last thing that kind of took out the trout
4:31:47
Tipping Point. Yeah.
4:31:52
But my point essentially is and yeah, you may well.
4:31:55
Very be, right? I think you actually definitely
4:31:57
are right about them, not being the dominant species.
4:32:00
I should have corrected myself there earlier, but I want to
4:32:02
comment or dominance. No, my point is my point being
4:32:06
that the dinosaurs were not the in the only vast species as far
4:32:11
as their variances. And as far as there, Their
4:32:16
dominance of the earth, they were not.
4:32:19
The only ones that were wiped out.
4:32:20
There were also a lot of aquatic species that were impacted.
4:32:23
And there was also a lot of plant species that were impacted
4:32:26
as well Hayden, you're misunderstanding my question,
4:32:29
okay. I'm not talking about individual
4:32:32
species. That would be like asking why
4:32:34
did microraptor's go extinct talking about a giant group of
4:32:39
very successful animals? Yeah, so there's not some giant
4:32:46
group of, like, I don't know what dinosaurs are in terms of,
4:32:51
you know, Monica genus a family and order.
4:32:54
I think that's kind of our source of confusion here,
4:32:57
because I'm having a bit of trouble understanding.
4:32:58
When you say the word dinosaurs, what you're specifically
4:33:01
describing here because there's different different.
4:33:05
People have different definitions of what the
4:33:07
dinosaurs were. Some people like to include, you
4:33:10
know, bird species, for example, in that group because they had
4:33:14
They evolved as a consequence of dinosaurs, but they don't
4:33:17
necessarily exclusive to that evolutionary history.
4:33:22
So I'm not quite sure what you were describing when you kept
4:33:25
bringing up dinosaurs over and over again.
4:33:27
Sorry. Dinosaurs in the ordinary sense.
4:33:32
So I'm not talking about Plesiosaurus and ichthyosaurs
4:33:36
and pterosaurs or okay basically the non-avian dinosaurs that
4:33:40
aren't aquatic. That aren't flying.
4:33:42
Okay. As a better understanding now
4:33:45
then but we were told they're wet, aquatic creams.
4:33:49
We're talking about aquatic trees, Ice Age, all over the
4:33:52
world and then we got in the dinosaur farts.
4:33:57
Yeah we have a wave, a wide breadth and depth of Brett.
4:34:00
We got is all about troglodytes getting their ass.
4:34:04
Whooped a while back it's true. It's true.
4:34:08
God done. Did it as as my best explanation
4:34:11
in a for that better than Evolution done, did it.
4:34:14
That's all I ever hear. An answer from people.
4:34:19
You know, if my fiancee weren't weren't against going on your I
4:34:24
would love for her to explain this because she has a lot
4:34:26
better of an understanding about this than I do.
4:34:28
Considering Point actually letting them.
4:34:30
Here and talk and you know, damn well, I'll keep people from
4:34:32
harassing her. No, I know I'm not against it.
4:34:36
She just personally doesn't want to do it.
4:34:39
I asked if she wanted to earlier, she said she was
4:34:41
studying biology. Yeah, she is.
4:34:45
That's you want to come in here and talk Folk.
4:34:49
I don't know, I didn't ask her, I probably should.
4:34:52
Wow, it's you babe, you say you need to talk to people who are
4:34:54
more qualified. Well, I'm every time I say, I
4:34:57
want to talk to my qualified. Now they can't do another room
4:35:00
watching TV. No, I I can definitely ask her.
4:35:05
Why she doesn't want to talk about it but I'm also going to
4:35:07
respect at the same time that she doesn't want to.
4:35:09
I'm not just going to tell her all.
4:35:10
Well you got to come over here and talk with them about it, you
4:35:13
know what I mean? All right, they're not, no, I'm
4:35:19
I've tried to say and that's why I mentioned before, Adam what
4:35:22
I'd said before and then when we were having our text
4:35:24
conversation, you know, I'm not at all scientist, I'm not going
4:35:27
to try to claim to be an authority on any of this or that
4:35:30
I've got a definitive idea of any of this, that I am talking
4:35:33
about. Your I can only go off of what I
4:35:35
have been taught, what I know about these things from my own
4:35:38
personal life and it's the same reason why I was talking with
4:35:41
G-Man. The way that I was earlier
4:35:43
because it's not a matter of me necessarily trying to debate.
4:35:46
It's that when I see something that somebody is Saying that
4:35:49
contravenes. What I have, personally,
4:35:52
observed what I've been educated on, I'm not going to go to them
4:35:56
and I'm not going to say well, you're wrong about this, I'm
4:35:58
just going to go to them and say, well why is that the case?
4:36:01
Why do you think this is the case?
4:36:03
How, what evidence do you have for this being the case?
4:36:06
So I think you understand what I mean?
4:36:08
I'm not here to tell you that you're wrong.
4:36:09
I'm just trying to understand better what you're talking
4:36:11
about. Right.
4:36:14
But oftentimes you you correct me and you tell me that I am
4:36:17
wrong. Did I tell you that?
4:36:19
I was wrong. Well you have done that where
4:36:23
you're like you correct me as if you know what you're talking
4:36:26
about you can't use the cop out of I'm not a scientist but also
4:36:29
correct me about the nebular hypothesis and plate tectonics
4:36:33
and stuff. Well I'm obviously not a
4:36:35
scientist. I'm not going to say.
4:36:36
I don't have to be a scientist though to learn about science.
4:36:40
No, I agree. I don't remember any specific
4:36:43
time where I said you were wrong about something, I'd be I'll go
4:36:46
back to our last conversation or even earlier in this
4:36:49
conversation. And if I can find that, I'm more
4:36:51
than welcome, Say that I was wrong about that and if I am
4:36:54
contradicting myself here then I guess I'm just full of shit.
4:36:59
You're not full of shit, you're really intelligent.
4:37:01
But what you said just now was you can only go off of what
4:37:06
someone else taught you or your own personal experience.
4:37:09
Well my own personal experience as far as what I've been
4:37:12
educated, I haven't directly observed these things.
4:37:15
To be the case. You know, I can't go back to the
4:37:18
devonian and actually observe what had happened, but that's
4:37:21
also called when you can Look into the oven it like we're
4:37:23
talking about drop Stones, you can go and read about drops.
4:37:26
Yes. And that's why I told you not to
4:37:28
personally go and go to some like you have to go to
4:37:31
Antarctica and find them or you know what I mean?
4:37:34
Like, no, I don't learn about you can like do independent
4:37:37
research and stuff. Now, I hear you and I actually
4:37:40
it's I'm going to say the same thing that I said to you.
4:37:42
Last time it's definitely something I'm going to look into
4:37:44
more. The only problem right now is
4:37:46
that I'm doing 40 hour weeks at the same time as studying for
4:37:50
business. So I don't really have a lot of
4:37:51
free time. My hands.
4:37:52
The moment, I'm really lucky in that right now, I've got a
4:37:56
little bit of free time because I finished up with my work today
4:37:59
and I just wanted my midterm why is your fiance an authority on
4:38:03
this that you trust that you would want to bring in as
4:38:06
someone who would handle the discussion better?
4:38:08
But you don't see me as being someone to listen to her trust
4:38:11
as if I may be something to what I'm saying.
4:38:14
If I didn't listen to you, if I didn't trust what you were
4:38:17
saying, I wouldn't say that I would look into it further or
4:38:19
what I would say is that you haven't looked into what Beyonce
4:38:23
nose. So you have a family members
4:38:25
based on it because it's the popular authoritative version of
4:38:29
science. I haven't that's accurate.
4:38:33
I haven't looked into it on the same level of Sir, because the
4:38:35
amount that she's looked into it.
4:38:36
She's devoted just shy of five years of her life, to the study
4:38:39
of this, and I'm not sore point. Okay, your fiance has looked
4:38:45
into this type of stuff hmm and I have looked into this type of
4:38:49
stuff but you want to bring her in as an authority basically on
4:38:54
it. I'd like to bring our indirect,
4:38:57
my thing with you're skeptical of and disagreeing with, I don't
4:39:01
necessarily know she would disagree with everything that
4:39:03
you're saying. I'm saying that it would be
4:39:04
interesting to hear both of you discuss this.
4:39:07
I don't necessarily think that she's going to come in here and
4:39:10
contravene you and say that you're wrong about everything.
4:39:12
What Trying to say is that it would be important to do it in a
4:39:15
different perspective. She's studying to be.
4:39:17
She's studying to be a biologist or she's studying biology for
4:39:21
something else. She isn't quite sure what
4:39:24
specific field biology she wants to go into.
4:39:26
She's talked about marine biology a lot, but she's also
4:39:29
talked about what's the study of insects again.
4:39:31
She always mentions it but I always forget it.
4:39:35
Entomology. Yes.
4:39:36
Thank you. Thank you.
4:39:38
I don't know why. I always forget that one.
4:39:40
She's kind of she's not quite sure which One of those two
4:39:43
she'd want to get in to see. This is the thing is that I will
4:39:49
totally admit to you right now that I am not well read on these
4:39:52
topics and that I absolutely should read more into these
4:39:55
topics. And if I did, like, you
4:39:57
described before, correct you on them and if I said that you were
4:40:00
wrong about them definitively, then that was wrong of me to do
4:40:03
and I would absolutely need to do more reading in this before I
4:40:06
go. Oh, what you're wrong about this
4:40:08
because I don't have any proof to back up whether or not you
4:40:12
are wrong about That. So if I did say that, that was
4:40:14
dishonest of me and I apologize. It doesn't really matter, like
4:40:20
I'm not concerned about that. I'm just I don't really care.
4:40:26
It just feels like you're very like avoidant of the possibility
4:40:32
of this like, you don't you seem very resistant to an alternative
4:40:38
and if there is an alternative, it's something you don't seem to
4:40:41
actively want to learn about. Actively want to learn about.
4:40:45
I've only had these discussions with you about these topics over
4:40:48
the course of these two discussions that we've had the
4:40:51
time that I had between their two discussions.
4:40:53
As I told you, I've been busy with a lot of things, I'm going
4:40:57
to look at, I can promise you right now, right.
4:40:59
You know, right? Hand to whatever God may or may
4:41:01
not exist out there that I'm going to look into this stuff.
4:41:04
And that I want to do that before I try to have these
4:41:07
definitive conversations with you.
4:41:09
I'm sorry if I'm coming off. As resistant, as I said, I can
4:41:12
only provide What I do know about this, I'm not just going
4:41:16
to directly tell you that you're you're right about these things
4:41:19
in the same way that I'm not going to directly tell you that
4:41:21
you're wrong about them. I'm sorry if that comes off as
4:41:23
indecisive. It's just how I feel about it.
4:41:26
I'm not really taking any hard positions on this, because I
4:41:30
don't have sufficient evidence to take a very hard.
4:41:32
You are taking a hard position, so that you're taking the
4:41:35
nebular, hypothesis stands, whether you call it that or not,
4:41:38
you're taking the plate, tectonics dance, and defending
4:41:40
that in the comments section. I said, I said in the Course of
4:41:44
that. Comment section what we observe
4:41:46
in the Big Bang earlier. You're defending our last
4:41:49
conversation. The I did say that, that seem to
4:41:51
be. So, you're taking strong
4:41:53
positions that you're defending. The popular means.
4:41:55
No, I would sort of stereotypical YouTube, atheist
4:41:59
position and mean, like, I maybe we just have different standards
4:42:04
of what taking a strong position on something as, but if I
4:42:07
definitively said that, the Big Bang Theory was something that
4:42:10
did happen. Yeah, I would say that that's
4:42:12
taking a strong position. I've said, any time that I've
4:42:15
mentioned, the Big Bang Theory is that given what we currently
4:42:18
know about cosmology, that that seems to be the best way of
4:42:22
describing. What had happened.
4:42:23
Brechin back me up on this, I believe in that.
4:42:26
Any conversation I've had with Brett, I never said, well, the
4:42:28
big one definitely happened after what I've said because I'm
4:42:32
not just going to directly change my mind about it.
4:42:35
As soon as you just tell me some of the stuff I'm not just going
4:42:37
to immediately change my mind. I've got to look into it more.
4:42:42
I don't think that that's an unreasonable position to take it
4:42:44
all in the same way. That if I told you to fitted
4:42:47
Lee, the Big Bang happened and hypothetically.
4:42:49
You weren't necessarily as well. Read about this, as you are.
4:42:52
I highly doubt that take that and well-read it's about
4:42:56
convincing evidence. If the temperatures of the
4:42:59
cosmic microwave background radiation were totally wrong
4:43:02
than that. Is evidence Against The Big Bang
4:43:05
Theory and so takes a couple seconds to look it up.
4:43:08
So we're having a one, two, three hour long.
4:43:12
Seishin going on. We're having a discussion when
4:43:14
presenting evidence, that's part of the discussion.
4:43:17
So something you have to put off and wait, maybe one, you know,
4:43:20
maybe a year from now. We'll go to college and study
4:43:23
the Big Bang Theory and look into it.
4:43:24
It's like it's a quick search here.
4:43:26
What do you specifically? What are you talking about?
4:43:29
That is something I take a couple seconds to search because
4:43:31
I'll do it right now. I will, I will do it right now.
4:43:34
I don't remember if this was you or someone else weren't we
4:43:36
talking about Cosmic microwave background radiation
4:43:38
temperatures or was that somebody else?
4:43:41
I don't there was another guy that was in the chat bread.
4:43:46
You remember, who that was? No, it was you and mr.
4:43:50
Aiden here, who was talking about that you guys were talking
4:43:53
about the radiation and know your rights.
4:43:56
All the last, the last conversation you guys jobs for
4:43:59
talked about, you guys talked a little bit about eternal
4:44:02
Universe for just a short time. Yeah, yeah.
4:44:06
The last conversation we had at them.
4:44:09
I did actually bring that up, as Evidence for the Big Bang, that
4:44:12
seems to indicate it. And I believe what you said in
4:44:15
response was that it's actually the exact opposite that it seems
4:44:19
to contravene The Big Bang Theory and that it actually
4:44:22
seems to be something which is against the Big Bang Theory and
4:44:26
the idea of a expanding Universe.
4:44:28
I believe was, what was also mentioned, is that correct?
4:44:32
Essentially. Yeah, the well, the temperature
4:44:34
predictions falsified the versions of The Big Bang Theory
4:44:36
back then. Okay.
4:44:39
I just it seems likely rise count it.
4:44:41
As for some reason, all of you guys count it as this big win,
4:44:44
this big piece of evidence that O The Big Bang Theory predicted
4:44:48
5K. So it's this big like, that's
4:44:51
your that's like the it just really foundation for a belief
4:44:55
in it. When it's like even if it was 5
4:44:58
K as a prediction, it's like stilts.
4:45:01
It's Very wrong. It's still totally, it seemed
4:45:05
words, these are understood. If you don't understand the
4:45:08
history, The Big Bang theorists when it was already.
4:45:11
Well known, what a background temperature is expected to be
4:45:14
predicted, it would be quite a bit higher than that.
4:45:18
And then they observed that the Big Bang predictions were
4:45:20
totally wrong. Right.
4:45:24
I guess what it seems like and I mean correct me if I'm
4:45:29
misinterpreting what you're doing here, but it seems over
4:45:33
the course of our discussions that you're trying to like get
4:45:36
me to leave this conversation definitively saying that this is
4:45:40
or is not the case. Or at least what you're saying
4:45:42
is that I'm being very resistant to what just considering the
4:45:46
evidence that I'm trying to present know.
4:45:48
And I believe and this is going back to what I said earlier
4:45:52
about how Maybe Just have different definitions about
4:45:55
taking a hard stance, but I think if I was taking a hard
4:45:58
stance on this, I'd be completely unwilling to move at
4:46:02
all. In what we're talking about
4:46:03
here. I'd be completely unwilling to
4:46:04
say that any of us possible. What do you mean?
4:46:11
How have your views on the Big Bang changed?
4:46:15
You haven't moved about it. Have you have conceded that it
4:46:19
absolutely is a possibility that the Eternal universe theory is
4:46:22
in fact, correct? I didn't say definitively that
4:46:25
it is or isn't the case and I'm sorry you're not going to get me
4:46:28
to say whether or not it is definitively what I listened to
4:46:30
this conversation. Not trying to convince you of an
4:46:32
eternal Universe. Well the Big Bang anyway.
4:46:35
Sorry. I say that because that is in
4:46:38
place of the Big Bang. What I believe you ascribe the
4:46:42
universe to have or a lack of emergency.
4:46:45
Gents because it has always existed, I believe is what you
4:46:48
believe. Am I wrong about that?
4:46:51
I don't know what you just said. I'll act like well, because if
4:46:55
the universe is eternal, you believe that there was a
4:46:58
starting point and in the universe was created like it
4:47:01
began to exist. It was a time when it didn't
4:47:05
exist and it came into existence.
4:47:09
Look, I mean the The, the best I can give you right now.
4:47:16
Give him what you're describing to me.
4:47:18
Is that I'm going to look into it.
4:47:21
I'm going to get more information on this and when I
4:47:26
do look into this I'm absolutely like you're mentioning something
4:47:31
earlier that. It would only take a couple
4:47:32
seconds to look it up. I asked you, what is that thing?
4:47:35
That it would take for me to look up because I want to get
4:47:37
pointed in the right direction. On all of this.
4:47:39
You mention a couple things earlier, I'm gonna I'm going to
4:47:43
write them down as notes. Actually, I'm going to get my
4:47:45
notepad right now. The cosmic microwave background,
4:47:50
radiation predictions, the predictions of the temperatures.
4:47:53
By people who didn't believe in The Big Bang Theory before the
4:47:56
Big Bang Theory and how accurate they were.
4:47:58
If you just go to Wikipedia and look it up, you can see a
4:48:01
chronological timeline of what were the predictions before, the
4:48:04
Big Bang Theory and then the Big Bang.
4:48:07
The the, the tip I already said this last time, the
4:48:09
temperatures, the temperature of the back, what is interpreted as
4:48:12
a background radiation is 2.7, okay, Big Bang Theory is
4:48:17
predicted five. 10, 20, 40, 50 k, the dudes, before the Big
4:48:23
Bang Theory said, two point seven, two point eight.
4:48:26
They already knew what it was a calculated.
4:48:28
What it would be just from the ambient temperature, radiation
4:48:34
from Stars bounce around some. So they already knew in the
4:48:37
1800's, what it was, what it was.
4:48:40
So give him a theory predicted that it would be higher than
4:48:43
what was already known. Okay, I guess given what you've
4:48:49
told me here and given what I've heard before about what you
4:48:52
described, as an eternal universe that you don't believe
4:48:56
that the the CMB is a relic of an earlier like in a pro.
4:49:01
Do you not a Proto universe? But a very early stage of the
4:49:04
universe. You don't believe that that's
4:49:06
the case. Because that's okay.
4:49:15
It's the temperature its equilibrium.
4:49:18
It's when radiation balance is around for a long time, off of,
4:49:21
like, little specks of stuff that's in, it gets into we can
4:49:24
equilibrium. That's the predicted temperature
4:49:27
of what you would find. Okay.
4:49:34
How was that? Was known way before the Big
4:49:35
Bang, Theory, Big, Bang Theory said it's going to be at least
4:49:38
twice that much. It's going to be up to 50.
4:49:41
K, they're off by like 10:00. It's something like 10,000
4:49:45
orders of magnitude. The when you have energy they
4:49:48
predicted as off by that much. When you safe, when you keep
4:49:51
quoting this fifty K number, do you mean the average
4:49:54
temperature? Observed in the CMB because
4:49:56
there's obviously a high degree of variants that we observe
4:49:59
within the CMV. There's many hot spots.
4:50:01
There's many cold spots. Are you just talking about the
4:50:04
average temperature? That is present within that.
4:50:10
Those little so-called cold and hot spots are teeny teeny teeny
4:50:15
teeny tiny variations from the 2.70 for sure.
4:50:19
I'm not trying to claim that they're absolutely gigantic very
4:50:22
important talking about. You don't have to get that
4:50:24
specific. It's you don't have to average
4:50:25
it out. Well, when you keep saying, a
4:50:27
very specific number and that number isn't necessarily that
4:50:32
isn't necessarily consistent across the entire CMB.
4:50:35
I think that absolutely is a relevant thing to bring up,
4:50:38
because if it was entirely All of it is in the range of 2.7,
4:50:42
the the so-called hot and cold spots.
4:50:45
The difference is is point zero, zero zero zero something, it's
4:50:49
not. Okay, so change that number from
4:50:51
being 2.7 something. Oh, okay.
4:50:56
I see what you're saying because.
4:50:58
Yeah, no, I see what you're saying.
4:50:59
Now, I was just at was 2.7 before the Big Bang Theory was
4:51:02
measured before the Big Bang Theory predictions and they knew
4:51:06
about those measurements. The dude, thanks the people that
4:51:11
found that found you know who penzias and Wilson, who is they
4:51:16
found? They measured it with that
4:51:17
Bighorn. Telescope thing radio in the
4:51:19
60s. Yeah. 1964 1965 in their
4:51:25
acceptance speech. For the Nobel Prize, they
4:51:27
thanked the dude that measured it 30 years earlier.
4:51:30
They eat. Thanks Andrew and McKellar like
4:51:32
he If thanks the guys that measured the CMP 30 years
4:51:39
earlier but they supposedly predicted it and their
4:51:43
prediction was a totally different number than what they
4:51:45
measured it as 30 years before that.
4:51:47
Now for sure why do you see like just those types of examples of
4:51:51
how completely absurd it is to believe in this shit, if what
4:51:55
I'm saying is true there's not a good reason to believe that that
4:51:59
is a piece of evidence in support of The Big Bang Theory.
4:52:03
All right, can I can I ask you just to just to kind of gain a
4:52:08
better understanding? Because one of the big topics we
4:52:10
were talking about. Last time we had a discussion,
4:52:13
was this idea of an expanding earth, right?
4:52:17
Expanding Earth. Yeah.
4:52:18
Yeah, I guess my question would be for the other objects that we
4:52:24
observe in the solar system which are far more massive
4:52:26
things like Jupiter. Would that be would that be the
4:52:31
case of a far older world? Because it is much larger, or
4:52:35
would that be a different composition?
4:52:37
I'm just trying to understand. Remember what I said about X Y
4:52:40
the crust and mantle of the earth is expanding, you said
4:52:45
that it was expanding due to I think it was releases in
4:52:49
pressure right there. So there's a bunch of ocean and
4:52:53
very very, very thick atmosphere on top of it.
4:52:55
Once that diminishes, The Rock and the magma of the mantle and
4:53:00
crust can expand outward. If it expands abruptly enough
4:53:04
for reaches a certain point, it will it will split up like the
4:53:07
continents split apart. Jupiter is much younger than the
4:53:12
Earth. Jupiter.
4:53:14
These, these body start out as giant stars and they lose mass
4:53:20
and become gas giants, okay? With used to be a gas giant, the
4:53:23
Earth used to be a star. Okay, yeah.
4:53:25
See this is this is like I said I'm just trying to get a better
4:53:28
grasp of what you're talking about here.
4:53:30
I thought through what you were talking about that Jupiter would
4:53:32
have been an older body. But what you're describing?
4:53:35
Yeah, bye-bye, that I would be a younger body.
4:53:38
Okay, I guess that doesn't make sense because my follow-up
4:53:41
question was going to be, then why is the earth as dense as
4:53:44
There's but if it's shrinks over time compared to her, if it
4:53:47
increases in density over time after that then I guess I would
4:53:50
better explain it because it's not a massive increase.
4:53:53
It's not a density increase. It's over billions of years, the
4:53:58
rule is mass loss taught like so much mass loss.
4:54:02
You start out with a giant huge, massive white star and it's
4:54:10
losing mass as time goes. And and those Stars Are Young in
4:54:13
this. Model the Earth.
4:54:15
The sun, the sun is way younger than the planet Earth.
4:54:21
I know fucking wallet. I know it has been a while.
4:54:24
I'm sorry. Do you want me to get off here?
4:54:29
Like no just why? Such long podcast.
4:54:33
Like because we're having a long nuanced discussion.
4:54:42
Yeah, it seems like I'll talk for a little bit longer here,
4:54:47
but since the fiance won't marry the woman's, always right?
4:54:53
If she's wanting Some Lovin, you even get the fuck out of here.
4:54:58
I don't want it to seem like I'm ducking out though.
4:55:00
You know mentally talking now we hear over there.
4:55:03
She's like he's come here boy. Yeah here.
4:55:09
All right well yeah in the in the same vein of what we were
4:55:15
discussing earlier Adam, maybe maybe it won't be that much time
4:55:19
before we have another talk but and any spare time that I have
4:55:24
here over this next period, are you gonna be doing a show on
4:55:26
Wednesday and Friday either 7 p.m. or 9 p.m. if you can make
4:55:31
it? We can do some more here and you
4:55:33
guys fight over icebergs and Big Bangs.
4:55:35
I'm good. Yeah, sure.
4:55:37
I got a real. Good question for you guys
4:55:38
because I've kind of been struggling with something in my
4:55:40
personal life. It's nothing.
4:55:42
Huge me. A both of you.
4:55:45
I just got both your opinions on.
4:55:47
So I make a really excellent internet psychiatrist.
4:55:51
Go ahead. Well, I'm having a bit of a
4:55:54
stroller right now because I'm, I've been doing a lot of study
4:55:57
and into business right now. I thought that that might be
4:56:00
something that I wanted to because business is a very
4:56:02
widely applicable degree. It's something that you can get
4:56:05
into a lot of different professions with But my real
4:56:08
passion is always been history. It's always been history.
4:56:12
It's always been anthropology. I know so much more about that
4:56:14
than business and business seems like such a dry soulless
4:56:18
Endeavor to put it quite frankly, this whole idea of how
4:56:21
to exploit the most people for the least amount of money,
4:56:24
possible just seems to come up over and over again, and it
4:56:27
really conflicts with my morality.
4:56:29
So like on one end I know that business would technically, be
4:56:35
more widely applicable. You'd be able to get a lot more
4:56:38
jobs with it, but I've really been thinking of dropping the
4:56:41
whole business thing and pursuing history.
4:56:44
I don't know what your guys opinions on.
4:56:46
That would be do the safe route and go for business.
4:56:48
A any kind of business with involves history or things like
4:56:53
that? Technically they like there's
4:56:55
curator positions in museums or archivists, and things like
4:56:59
that. And I suppose they have certain
4:57:00
business elements to them, especially Really, if you're
4:57:03
getting into the administration of those museums, but the more
4:57:06
and more I look into that. The more and more it seems like
4:57:08
you only need a history degree to take those positions.
4:57:12
What I'm really talking about is that if I can't happen to find
4:57:16
any positions at a museum job or anything like that, then I could
4:57:19
go to a different career profession if I had a business
4:57:22
degree. All right, well, here's my, my
4:57:26
internet Psychiatry tip. All right, here it is.
4:57:30
If business is not what you're into.
4:57:32
But you love history. Then you need to do what you
4:57:35
love or you just simply not going to be content money.
4:57:37
Can't buy you love. Do what the fuck makes you
4:57:40
happy? What's in your heart?
4:57:42
As opposed to the money thing? But if it's about money for you,
4:57:45
if you need fancy cars and all that shit, then do the other
4:57:50
thing. No, I think I think we've talked
4:57:52
about it before brat and I'll definitely hear your opinion on
4:57:55
this if you have one item, once I'm done with this.
4:57:57
But I've never been much of a materialistic person.
4:58:01
I know that money can buy you expensive.
4:58:02
Variances and what not. But as far as like fancy cars
4:58:05
and whatnot and all that? No, I've never needed any of
4:58:08
that. And where are you go?
4:58:10
Man, if you want to get rid of all your money, I got a PayPal
4:58:13
link below. I'll take care of it for you,
4:58:17
sir. I'm not, I'm not a monk or
4:58:20
anything like that, I'm not gonna not gonna shit.
4:58:22
All of my Earthly possessions. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
4:58:25
completely devoid of materialism.
4:58:28
I'm just trying to say that I'm not after the money.
4:58:30
You know what I mean? I'm not trying to seek out every
4:58:32
possible way. I can make a quick Buck.
4:58:36
What about you, Adam? How you feel about what he's
4:58:38
asking? I think if you are passionate
4:58:45
about history, you should study history.
4:58:50
It doesn't necessarily have to be something you make money
4:58:53
from, but if you cannot live without a career, as a historian
4:59:00
or whatever you want to do, I don't know what you're going to
4:59:02
do, with your love of history as a way of job, but if you can't
4:59:06
live without that, then You have to pursue that like you don't
4:59:12
want to live with regret but at the same time you don't have to
4:59:15
turn your passion into something that you make a living from
4:59:18
necessarily. You could still have, you could
4:59:21
be a successful businessman and still learn about history.
4:59:26
Yeah, no, I hear what you're saying.
4:59:30
There's definitely religion T to both sides.
4:59:32
I guess the thing that I'm worried about is that if I spend
4:59:35
all this money pursuing, this history major and it turns out I
4:59:39
can't get a job in that field, then I've just spent all of
4:59:42
these tens of thousands of dollars getting into student
4:59:44
loan debt, and I can't apply it in the actual career field.
4:59:47
That's where the, my concern is that I don't want to be drowning
4:59:51
in debt in my 20s, you know what I'm saying?
4:59:55
Yeah. And I mean are you pretty sure
4:59:57
that you're going to be passionate about history to know
5:00:00
God 20 years from now? I've been passionate about
5:00:03
history ever since. I was in like the third or
5:00:05
fourth grade and I could say with pretty definitively that
5:00:08
I'd be passionate about that like what as a career would you
5:00:11
want to do with that? You want to write books you want
5:00:13
to be a lecturer. You want to be doing a
5:00:15
professor. There's there's a couple
5:00:16
different paths. I've been thinking about the two
5:00:19
main ones are ya. If I really want to go all out,
5:00:21
I'd want to get my PhD and I'd want to teach professionally as
5:00:25
But if I want to do a bachelor's or Master's, I'd probably pursue
5:00:30
like a curatorship at a museum or an archivist or something
5:00:33
like that. Maybe even Elementary or high
5:00:35
school teacher, become a teacher, you can get paid shit.
5:00:42
That's the thing but I just I wish teachers were so much more
5:00:47
respected in our society than they are right now.
5:00:49
They're so trampled upon and every single aspect It's not
5:00:53
just a money. We live in a cancer culture that
5:00:56
seems to be getting fucking worse and woke.
5:00:59
That's what I mean. Want to rewrite history and
5:01:01
everything else, so you're gonna probably end up without a
5:01:04
fucking job. If you say the wrong thing?
5:01:08
Yeah, it's kind of the way with business as well though, because
5:01:11
like, the way that I'm learning about all these different
5:01:14
methods of doing business, I wouldn't want to do any of that
5:01:17
shit. I don't want to exploit people
5:01:18
as a living, you know, like as an example, I'm doing this work.
5:01:23
Home job. I was mentioned in earlier.
5:01:25
It took me a decent amount of time to find this one because
5:01:28
I've been offered plenty of sales jobs but I don't know.
5:01:32
I don't want to sell to people, you know what I mean?
5:01:34
Like, I think I could be persuasive selling things to
5:01:36
people but that's not really what I want to do or I think
5:01:39
Adams advice was the best you follow your heart.
5:01:43
You can try to do both in some kind of way or another keep
5:01:47
history is the passion, do what it takes to make some money but
5:01:51
most importantly besides your own Down hard on this.
5:01:54
This is more of a question. You should be asking what your
5:01:56
loved ones. Ma'am.
5:01:58
I did, I did, and I've, I've heard their opinions on this,
5:02:02
but at the same time, I don't think it's, it's a bad thing to
5:02:05
seek out advice from from people that I've had interactions with
5:02:09
in the past. I mean, obviously you guys are
5:02:11
my family and we're talking to a guy who's so poor.
5:02:15
Yes, to put food stamps on layaway so if you want to take
5:02:19
advice from me you made two thousand dollars.
5:02:21
I'll fit currency. Amy deck.
5:02:23
So maybe Adams your guy to talk to about that?
5:02:30
Well yeah go ahead either. I think there is a little bit of
5:02:33
a risk of converting a passion into a career in that you might
5:02:37
like, for example, I'm very I vote and I have been pretty much
5:02:41
my entire life, very, very interested in astronomy and
5:02:44
cosmology. Hmm.
5:02:45
It seems like it, but if I were a working astronomer and I had
5:02:50
to do just the boring, Routine fucking grunt work bullshit that
5:02:56
they do. It would be the most boring job
5:02:59
possible. Like it would kind of, I would
5:03:01
probably hate. Hmm, it's on me.
5:03:04
It sucks. You're passionate about how you
5:03:06
feel about like, like, if you're an archivist or some is that
5:03:09
something that you are like excited about the possibility of
5:03:12
doing something like that? And I think if you could settle
5:03:15
for maybe just get a job teaching kids or whatever and
5:03:18
that's worth it for you then it's not like you're just
5:03:22
investing in Thing that that can't be, you can't do something
5:03:26
with if you study history and you become a teacher, you can
5:03:28
still use that right. Hmm.
5:03:31
I guess I'm maybe maybe Brett misunderstood me earlier what I
5:03:37
was saying about teachers because it's not necessarily
5:03:39
about like the salary or anything like that as the only
5:03:42
thing that they're getting shit on.
5:03:44
It's also the fact that just the teaching profession in general
5:03:48
seems to be a lot less venerated of an institution and It seems
5:03:53
to be related to what he was talking about earlier about this
5:03:56
like woken, that's how I don't. I don't understand the thing
5:04:00
with teachers that I said, this a while back and for some
5:04:03
reason, the logic went over, everybody's head.
5:04:06
I don't understand how motherfuckers you play ball, and
5:04:09
throw a ball at each other, make more money than the people who
5:04:12
are, crafting, the mines and the brains of our future generation.
5:04:17
I don't know what kind of world we live in, where that shit's
5:04:20
the deal. Yeah, yeah.
5:04:22
We Talk about people not getting their dues all night long and
5:04:26
I'm not going to take the standard atheistic position of
5:04:29
oh my god. Well the world's unfair
5:04:31
therefore God, not real but you know at the at the same time
5:04:37
it's hard not to look at the vast inequities, we see in the
5:04:40
world and not wonder why the hell that's the case.
5:04:43
You know, obvious because humans are fucking selfish and
5:04:47
disgusting to pay out the ass for entertainment.
5:04:50
But if it's education, fuck you. You.
5:04:55
I wish it was that simple, though.
5:04:56
I wish that we lived in a world where it was easy to just right
5:05:01
everybody off. But then there's people like you
5:05:03
and Adam that are actually, they're very intelligent people.
5:05:06
They're very nuanced people and they're people that are capable
5:05:09
of empathizing and disagreeing with those things.
5:05:12
It's just I told Adam over and over he's a rare case.
5:05:21
I've only met like a couple handful of people in my real
5:05:24
life that I actually think our intellectuals actually know what
5:05:27
they're doing. I mean, sure, he can watch
5:05:29
fucking television. It seems like there's some
5:05:31
people out there, they're smart. When I read the script off the
5:05:34
Wikipedia page. But honestly only a couple
5:05:37
handful fucking intellectuals. No, I agree with you.
5:05:42
I guess the point I was trying to make was that It's hard to
5:05:46
write Humanity off as a whole, when those exceptions exist.
5:05:49
In my mind. I guess is the best way of
5:05:51
saying that I can't, I can't comfortably say that humanity is
5:05:55
always garbage when there are these exceptions to the rule,
5:05:58
maybe maybe I could say the majority of Humanity's garbage
5:06:02
and the majority of humanity, I couldn't give less of the damn
5:06:05
about in The Wider scheme of things because of the way that
5:06:08
they treat their fellow man, but I can't do that for Humanity as
5:06:12
a whole. It just doesn't seem like a fair
5:06:14
way of assessing The things. I hear you.
5:06:18
Well, I'm not saying get rid of the whole human race, right?
5:06:21
Yeah. But uh, I don't know, I guess I
5:06:25
wouldn't miss him at the party. Himself death.
5:06:32
Shit, yo, now you always know how to get a good laugh out of
5:06:38
me. It's pretty great.
5:06:39
That's one of the reasons why I love having these discussions
5:06:42
but hey, it kind of baffles. My fiancé is mine, how I can see
5:06:45
rewarded for going. Apple your skull if you can get
5:06:48
your ass over here and hang out there though.
5:06:50
That's good point. That's a good point.
5:06:52
Yeah. I'm getting too caught up in
5:06:53
this stuff. I guess.
5:06:54
I'll call it quits here guys, but have a good rest of your
5:06:56
night. Adam YouTube really nice talking
5:06:59
with you. Yeah nice talking with you.
5:07:06
Alright, so we got that pretty hard up there on the screen.
5:07:09
I'll tell you what, I don't know what the hell I was thinking
5:07:11
when I first seen that image. Yeah, I don't see what you were
5:07:17
describing but I could see how you could because the red really
5:07:20
stands out. I really really got nervous.
5:07:23
I'll tell you what happened. I probably shouldn't but the
5:07:26
moment it came on the screen my eyes were blurry just focus on
5:07:30
then and I thought I was seeing like a period or something.
5:07:35
I was like what the fuck have them but then I look at them
5:07:38
like oh there's the countries and shit.
5:07:43
Yeah, my eyes are bad, dude. Apparently Evolution was nice to
5:07:47
me. Picked the wrong mutations or
5:07:51
something. So are you going to be doing
5:07:57
tonight? How come?
5:07:58
We still, don't get to see art and comic book drawing and all
5:08:01
that. I haven't gotten anything setup.
5:08:05
I've had a big chunk of time where I haven't been working on
5:08:08
stuff and I need to like, basically I have Right now I
5:08:12
have a like pile of books over here that I need to move again.
5:08:16
My art stuff back setup. Why did all this happen again
5:08:20
for Just a series of events. I Mike, I lost my computer for a
5:08:28
few days and then the Kent hovind debate.
5:08:30
And then I like I was I was at it.
5:08:33
Well, I was out of town but I wasn't at home and I just have
5:08:36
been like I haven't had a consistent stretch of time where
5:08:41
I was. Home and uninterrupted to work
5:08:47
on my comics and stuff and streaming.
5:08:49
Like I don't really like, just like hopping in and doing like
5:08:51
one day here and there, I like to have a big stretch of time
5:08:56
where I can get really into it. but I have all these books that
5:09:00
I got out because of Stuff that had followed from the Kent
5:09:06
hovind, debate discussion or whatever.
5:09:12
I don't have like a shelf or something for them.
5:09:16
Oh, goodness gracious. I just got an email from
5:09:19
somebody. We were talking about.
5:09:23
What's up? Well, we were having an
5:09:25
interesting conversation. I offered up my services for
5:09:29
something and the might actually be interested.
5:09:35
It's cool. It's cool.
5:09:38
Well, I'll tell you what I offered and stuff but I don't
5:09:40
want to get into it until it's finalized, but I offered to run
5:09:45
shows while somebody does talking and I moderate for them
5:09:50
so they can start having open debates with people just coming
5:09:54
in on random. I think you might know who I'm
5:09:57
talking about, but I until it finalizes.
5:10:00
I don't want to make any bets. Oh, I see.
5:10:07
Yeah, you know, I'm a good moderator, man.
5:10:10
You know, I also, I can be aggressive instead of somebody
5:10:13
such getting off out of hand. I'm good stuff.
5:10:22
Good stuff. I don't know what the deal is
5:10:25
with that. You sound so much more clear and
5:10:28
Powerful when you talk but at the Mike stays open too long.
5:10:31
It's like I don't know why it does, it sounds like it gets
5:10:37
louder or something. Not when you're actually talking
5:10:43
about. Not, when you're actually
5:10:44
talking, it sounds good. Looks like missing mods.
5:10:47
Getting excited. He thinks he knows who I'm
5:10:49
talking about. He probably does, but don't give
5:10:52
it away there sir. I'll give it away and if you got
5:10:55
it figured out. So You saw what was the thing
5:11:01
about? And remember, my memory and
5:11:03
should I just pick everything up here?
5:11:06
But what the fuck is the creature?
5:11:07
You were talking about? That looks like a raccoon.
5:11:10
What is that? Let me see it.
5:11:14
Yeah, let me look it up. I was just looking at it
5:11:16
yesterday. No Rye.
5:11:19
It's a It might just be called it a raccoon.
5:11:23
Like some of these animals there, they have the same name.
5:11:26
It's just like the marsupial version of it.
5:11:31
But let me I'll find it real quick.
5:11:36
Yeah, one of the other things we were talking about while you're
5:11:39
looking for my super Raccoon as I don't understand why it is
5:11:43
that people assume even people who are way in evolution.
5:11:47
Why they fucking assume that every creature on the planet.
5:11:51
It's going to go through some kind of variables and changes
5:11:55
the variables. Are pretty much fire water and
5:11:58
all the elements, right? And what point in time can
5:12:01
easily even if you add pressure and all this other environment,
5:12:05
the Shit, how the fuck does this create a hand and arms and make
5:12:10
it to where fucking will crawls up on land and turns into a dog?
5:12:14
And then makes a decision to jump back in a million years
5:12:17
later where the fuck is all this information coming from Whoa,
5:12:25
that raccoon think is not right here, where I thought it was so
5:12:27
it might take longer than just a quick second, but it'll be,
5:12:32
it'll be a minute rather than a second but we don't have the
5:12:36
rush man. It's just something I want to
5:12:38
see but you don't have to worry about those other animals that
5:12:45
are like real. There's like really similar
5:12:47
cases that supposedly just coincidentally evolved to look
5:12:51
identical. Which I'm very, very skeptical.
5:12:57
But yeah, I mean, I don't know how you get the genetic material
5:13:00
to begin with, but once you have some DNA, it can combine and
5:13:06
change. Like, if you Have you had one
5:13:14
string of DNA? And then the male mace with the
5:13:16
female and they kind of kind of mixes it up and you know what I
5:13:22
mean, like those types of things can give you a lot of different
5:13:26
variations on things and then eventually with little anomalies
5:13:31
and stuff, you can get that turning into other stuff.
5:13:34
But I from what I and I'm still just kind of starting to really
5:13:39
deep. Deep into all this Evolution
5:13:41
crap. But from what I'm seeing The
5:13:45
rant. The idea that it's this random
5:13:47
process can't really be fully supported, it's just, it doesn't
5:13:51
hold up to scrutiny. It can't you can't get what we
5:13:55
observe, which is Randomness. And if it is that random, you
5:14:00
can't have something stay the same for, for hundreds of
5:14:03
millions of years, it would have to change.
5:14:06
It would have to deform and mutate and turn into these
5:14:11
different things. It wouldn't be really possible
5:14:15
for it to stay the same, right? I was hearing you talk about
5:14:19
that earlier got there are creatures out there that have
5:14:23
never made any significant changes.
5:14:29
Yeah. Like I'm not saying that that
5:14:30
disproves Evolution but I think that it it definitely disproves
5:14:35
just darwinian evolution by itself.
5:14:36
You need some other explanation, some other mechanisms and it's
5:14:41
looking like they need a lot of additional mechanisms.
5:14:45
Darwinian evolution is like one Like tiny chunk of the whole
5:14:51
thing. But y'all try to find this
5:15:01
raccoon thing. All right.
5:15:15
I can put here. Let me put this image up while
5:15:17
I'm looking. Oh, there was some kind of
5:15:22
bullshit thing that people almost trick me with a few years
5:15:25
ago. What's up?
5:15:29
Well what had happened was apparently some fucking hostages
5:15:33
or something. The story was the ostriches had
5:15:37
a Offspring basically, but the thing came out looking like a
5:15:41
genetic dinosaur and people run around saying, there you go.
5:15:46
There's your fucking proof of evolution, but it turned out to
5:15:49
be some bullshit. I don't think they were trying
5:15:52
to deliberately trick me but someone tricked them and then
5:15:55
they showed me all these fucking weird images and I was like,
5:15:57
wow, I get her some Earth to it it turned out being a fucking
5:16:01
farce. What have we got here?
5:16:05
What do we got to go? So these the image I have up
5:16:08
right now are just examples of Where you have standard mammals
5:16:14
and marsupials that have this sort of like matching similar
5:16:17
animal. So let me zoom in on some of
5:16:20
these sectors a Tasmanian wolf and a wolf.
5:16:24
For example, or the one is called a mouse, but it's like a
5:16:27
marsupial Mouse and the mouse that we know these supposedly
5:16:32
look at these two mice for example here.
5:16:33
Let me zoom in on this mouse. That's a good example.
5:16:37
These mice supposedly are not related to each other, they just
5:16:42
by coincidence look like that, that they evolved separately and
5:16:49
both ended up looking like my knees.
5:16:52
That's called convergent evolution.
5:16:53
The why do you believe that? They actually evolved for?
5:16:56
Why, why can't they be mice? But just a different fucking
5:17:01
brand of it. Oh well once a marsupial it
5:17:05
doesn't give live birth the way that we like it has a pouch and
5:17:09
shit like that. Like it gives partial birth to a
5:17:12
little tiny weird fetus thing that stays in the pouch and
5:17:16
things like that. Well, the finger in the left is
5:17:20
like a fucking kangaroo mouse. Yeah, it's like a kangaroo.
5:17:23
It like it's a marsupial. So it doesn't have full
5:17:27
fully-fledged full-fledged birth.
5:17:29
The way that placental mammals do.
5:17:32
Oh, I thought it was Some mouse setting up fucking eating
5:17:35
another something. So that things got a pouch.
5:17:39
It's got a furry as Tail. As far as I know, I don't know
5:17:43
that every single marsupial has those traits.
5:17:46
I think some of them might have a slightly different setup.
5:17:49
They also have weird not to get too graphic, but they're I'll
5:17:52
just say briefly their genitals are different and there's sort
5:17:57
of like two parts to it. It's sort of soup.
5:18:00
Let's build their bar General sort of split off into two
5:18:03
things, instead of one set of one organ.
5:18:06
It sort of starts out as one. And splits off into two
5:18:09
sections, those are the big cannon vagina.
5:18:13
Well, it's like I guess I'll just be explicit about that.
5:18:17
It's like a penis that starts off as one and it splits off
5:18:20
into two, things at the top and then the female vagina or
5:18:25
whatever is like two holes. Hmm, do we have a real picture
5:18:34
of this mouse that you're talking about?
5:18:39
I can. Yeah, I can look what up.
5:18:41
There's a there's one that's it. Looks like raccoons.
5:18:44
There's ones that look like pigs.
5:18:46
Like you maybe heard the term Razorback.
5:18:50
He's like, weird marsupial pigs. They just look like pigs.
5:18:56
Like they're almost every mammal.
5:18:57
You can think of there's like a corresponding Matching one like
5:19:03
this. This creature though, right
5:19:05
here, the kangaroo mouse, or whatever.
5:19:07
Is this something that's still around?
5:19:10
Or is it exciting? These are all these aren't like,
5:19:12
strange, interpretations of fossil evidence.
5:19:15
These are animals that are alive today.
5:19:18
Hey, see if we can find a picture that fucking thing.
5:19:23
So another name for is the mole Gaara, oh they do have some
5:19:28
called kangaroo mouse. That fucking thing looks
5:19:31
terrible. Look up Mo Gaara and ulga are
5:19:35
I'll just hero, post a link real quick.
5:19:37
Hmm, don't you have OBS? You able to throw something up
5:19:42
there? Jacket.
5:20:03
Well, there's a lot of creatures.
5:20:04
I suspect that there's going to be creatures out there that have
5:20:07
a lot of similarities. Let me remember the scientist.
5:20:11
Put a fucking monkey, right? Next to the man.
5:20:17
I mean I got cats eating with a fucking raccoon right now, and
5:20:20
if you look at the raccoon and a funny way, it could look like a
5:20:23
cat to sure. Yeah.
5:20:26
They do have sort of What kind of cat and dog, like features?
5:20:33
Well, if I never even seen a kangaroo mouse before this
5:20:37
thing, looks fucking terrible. Have you seen the kangaroo
5:20:41
mouse? Let me look it up.
5:20:45
Thing is fucking off. Oh yeah.
5:20:46
I have seen one of those things. Yeah, that's hideous.
5:20:54
No, I got gerbils. They saying that the desert
5:20:58
kangaroo rapid that looks just like faux fucking gerbil.
5:21:06
I don't know why I can't find this damn kangaroo thing.
5:21:08
Australian kangaroo bird raccoon.
5:21:10
I mean You sure they didn't put that thing in the wrong deal
5:21:20
because there are creatures that are, you know, fucking hamsters
5:21:24
and gerbils and all that. Is that the correct category to
5:21:28
put that thing with the mouse? I don't understand what you're
5:21:33
asking. Well, I mean, if you look at it
5:21:36
and everything, I mean sure. I seriously like this animal
5:21:41
right here is called a mouse. That's like the name of it.
5:21:46
Right? Like and and there's a mouse at
5:21:48
Disneyland called Mickey, but still how do we know that that
5:21:52
thing isn't just some kind of form of squirrel or something,
5:21:55
they just got the names wrong on it.
5:21:58
What I mean is it's mankind. That's inventing the fucking
5:22:02
names and categories for the show, right?
5:22:05
Right. But it's not just the name.
5:22:10
It's like in other words this thing is so similar to a wolf
5:22:13
that they call it a wolf. This thing is so similar to
5:22:15
announce that they call a mouse but they're supposedly not.
5:22:23
Related ancestrally until you go way, way, way back to like
5:22:26
early, mammals like in the dinosaur days or something.
5:22:32
Hmm, like this thing. This is called an anteater, but
5:22:36
it's not the anteater that we think of, it's a different
5:22:39
anteater. Hmm.
5:22:42
Are they have these like cat things, they're like Australian
5:22:45
cats that aren't felines. And they're weird marsupials
5:22:51
with double dicks and weird, pouches and stuff.
5:23:00
Let me see something real quick. Now, something makes me think
5:23:05
something going on here? Hold on.
5:23:29
I'm trying to. Aha.
5:23:37
Now when did they supposedly found that weird looking fucking
5:23:40
Mouse. When did they first like write
5:23:43
it down and put it in a Like the animal bucks, I don't know.
5:23:50
But I'm assuming at least back to the colonization of
5:23:54
Australia. Well, the reason why I'm asking
5:24:00
that is because I noticed in the last 50 years, there's been a
5:24:05
lot of extremely unusual. Shit.
5:24:08
That seems to be coming up on the scene, just around the same
5:24:11
time. That genes genetic.
5:24:13
Splicing is become a thing. You ever seen them, you ever
5:24:20
seen images of a genetically spliced animals or they create
5:24:25
completely different type of creatures doing that shit?
5:24:28
Sure. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I
5:24:31
don't know, I haven't looked into it but these are, you know,
5:24:33
there would be evidence of these like way way way back.
5:24:41
Before anything like that would be like, in other words, this
5:24:44
isn't something that's from the past 10, 20, 30 years.
5:24:50
He reminds me, how do you say that reminds me?
5:24:54
How do you feel about what they do to animals inside of science
5:24:58
labs? I don't think I've ever asked
5:25:00
you what your thoughts are in that we might have discussed it
5:25:03
a while back. I I am very, very, very
5:25:10
strongly. Like, one of my main things is,
5:25:12
I'm very strongly against mistreatment of animals, such as
5:25:16
whales, Dolphins, Apes, elephants, some of the more
5:25:20
advanced animals even like cats dogs, I'm very opposed to any
5:25:27
kind of mistreatment or anything with, with some of the more
5:25:33
advanced animals if they're doing stuff with more kind of
5:25:36
like, I don't know it's like a sliding scale of complexity or
5:25:41
something. Like it's similar to like
5:25:43
animals. I would feel comfortable eating
5:25:45
like I might eat a fish but I wouldn't eat a cat or a dog
5:25:50
unless I was like dying on an island or something, you know,
5:25:54
like I wouldn't feel comfortable eating higher life-forms so if
5:25:59
they do some kind of weird experiment with fish, I wouldn't
5:26:04
feel as bad, it's kind of like incrementally worse, you know,
5:26:08
but even like an ant or a spider or something, I don't.
5:26:13
I don't know if I'm just a pussy or what but I don't want to kill
5:26:17
even insects like I If there's ants in my house I'll try I try
5:26:23
to get rid of them, another way of possible if there's a spider
5:26:26
I'll just try to like let it outside.
5:26:27
I don't I feel terrible even like killing a spider, Oof, I've
5:26:37
seen some pretty horrible shit. Have you seen where they've
5:26:41
plugged in Contraptions to rats and mice and made them do remote
5:26:46
control? Yeah, I actually have a book
5:26:49
about that. Let's fucking rough.
5:26:52
I seen this other thing too. That was horrible.
5:26:54
I didn't bother. So my wife, she would have
5:26:56
passed out but they basically took a cat that was dying and
5:27:02
then they somehow plugged in this computer shit into the back
5:27:06
of its brain and through its eyes where they could literally
5:27:09
see what the cat's eyes were picking up the imagery on a
5:27:13
monitor. I'm like over that Fucking ate
5:27:17
up. Then if I would have showed my
5:27:19
wife that she would have just lost if she loves feeling is
5:27:23
like nightmare-inducing. That's like really, really,
5:27:29
really creepy. So if they if evolutionists are
5:27:39
condensed that you can get all this shit from these genetic
5:27:42
changes such as Limbs and and all this, then why is it that
5:27:47
they're not able to fucking produce arms and legs and parts
5:27:52
for human beings have lost their limbs.
5:28:03
Well wait, say that again. Well, I understand that there
5:28:09
would be the time problem, but I'm asking, is there claiming
5:28:13
that because of variables and changes in the environment, was
5:28:17
the reason why every one of these creatures you showed me,
5:28:20
including us allegedly, we're able to grow Limbs and the
5:28:24
atomic structure we have, if we know so much and there's an
5:28:28
abundance of evidence for it. Then how the fuck come, can't we
5:28:33
create body parts and a fucking lab?
5:28:37
To put on people and still using plastic and bullshit.
5:28:44
I don't know. I don't see how like, in other
5:28:48
words, if we have, if we already have human DNA, why would you
5:28:51
need to evolve something? We already have.
5:28:54
Like, if you could use The DNA to somehow grow a new limb, why
5:29:03
would you need to evolve something from something else?
5:29:06
Evolve basically. Well they're saying that the
5:29:09
information that is going into these creatures as causing them
5:29:14
to grow limbs. Then why wouldn't you use the
5:29:17
same information to do that for I really don't know.
5:29:24
I believe I heard something a while back where they believe
5:29:27
that there was some kind of thing they were working on.
5:29:30
Were they thought that? Because of the way lizards can
5:29:33
lose their tail and some of them actually like grow it back, they
5:29:38
thought they might be able to do that with humans, right?
5:29:41
I could see something like that. Where if you, if you look into
5:29:44
genetics enough and understood it, and you could use that trait
5:29:48
or if somehow it's still in our DNA somehow bring it. after
5:29:51
something that I could see that as being something, but I do
5:29:56
believe as a spiritual religious person that God and printed a
5:30:00
blueprint inside of us, that genetically makes us what we are
5:30:06
and I don't understand why it is.
5:30:07
That mankind is not figured out how to tap into that shit and be
5:30:12
able to give somebody a form. I know that there'd be a
5:30:14
timetable for sure. You can't just fucking grow it
5:30:18
out at the same size, like in moment, unless you figured out
5:30:22
some kind of way to superimpose it.
5:30:29
Yeah, I don't know have you looked into that recently?
5:30:31
I know that some of that's like I'm sure they have sort of at
5:30:34
least like well, I'm not sure but I'm guessing there might be
5:30:37
at least like experimental stages of stuff like that where
5:30:40
everyone's getting a couple different things bunch of sci-fi
5:30:44
fictional bullshit and sound like you're anywhere on it.
5:30:48
The only thing that seems like it's got a any anything of
5:30:52
excitement into it is that aging gene, but even that seems to
5:30:56
fade out You know, the agent team, where they supposedly
5:31:01
figured out how to make rats and mice live longer and how they're
5:31:05
still in the animal trials. Now that sounds fascinating But
5:31:11
not much on limbs anymore. So there's I don't know if this
5:31:20
is the same animal, I was thinking of earlier but this is
5:31:23
another example of something that looks Pretty damn similar
5:31:28
to a raccoon. Yeah that was hooked a lot like
5:31:31
a wrecked and I'm sure you assume that that's a raccoon.
5:31:36
Probably the hump on the top of the head or not.
5:31:40
That's like the thing is. Yeah.
5:31:41
Like so if you saw that, it was like long, like that it looks
5:31:44
kind of weird. It looks almost like a hyena or
5:31:48
something. When you see it's full body.
5:31:50
Are you sure that? Should they photoshop?
5:31:56
I'm not 100% sure. But this is a now.
5:31:59
Remember my head's been on a manatee.
5:32:01
So my fuck, there's a whole bunch of this animal, though.
5:32:05
I've seen. I mean, I'm seeing I've seen
5:32:06
these in books and stuff. What about whenever it's turned
5:32:10
sideways. As it got a long beak or is it
5:32:13
squishy like a raccoon as well? What I mean does it have an
5:32:21
extended nozzle? Well, there's different ones.
5:32:41
We read these images of that thing.
5:32:44
Oh, it's called www.google.com. Know what the fuck is it called?
5:32:50
I mean, what is this second? This one is zoo institute's.
5:32:56
I don't know. I just did a Google image
5:32:57
search. So, Brett, these aren't, these
5:33:00
are fake images though. These are no, I'm asking what
5:33:02
kind of animal this so I can Google as well.
5:33:05
Oh I'm sorry. Misunderstood so okay so this
5:33:07
one is at as not Australian. It's called an African civet.
5:33:11
See I ve T African See, I ve t. Okay, I see it.
5:33:25
Some of them look more like a raccoon than other ones like
5:33:27
there's more than there's different varieties of it.
5:33:30
A lot of these definitely got they have that head like that
5:33:34
for sure. And that's the body is
5:33:38
different. It's almost like a oh yeah.
5:33:45
Here. Take a look at this.
5:33:46
This was fucking weird. Oh, hold on a second.
5:33:51
What in the hell? I think my browser just froze up
5:33:54
old iron Okay, I got something for you to see.
5:34:02
Look at this fucking deal. This is crazy.
5:34:06
Look at a missing mod, make sure you look at the screen for this
5:34:09
shit. This is going to floor you.
5:34:12
Some of these motherfuckers are huge to do this shit.
5:34:19
Now, that's not the one, that's not what, I was wanting older
5:34:23
and let me try that again. Share screen.
5:34:36
There we go. Look at this shit, dude.
5:34:42
I can get it up and look at the fucking thing all the way in the
5:34:47
right, that's how big it is. It's a big one of these things
5:34:53
are Raccoons are not that fucking big, right?
5:35:03
Yeah. Something like that was coming
5:35:04
towards my trashcan, my motherfuckin ass, be back in the
5:35:07
house. So the How does its head look
5:35:10
pretty much identical to a raccoon?
5:35:13
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, it could be like what we
5:35:19
got with cats, we got these small house cats compared to
5:35:22
tigers and lions. Maybe raccoons got big old.
5:35:25
It sounds a bit system selves. Now, right.
5:35:31
But supposedly this thing isn't related to a raccoon Well,
5:35:35
they've been Wednesday dentally. Looks identical to a raccoon in
5:35:38
the head. Why I hear what you're saying
5:35:42
man. But don't I mean whether you're
5:35:45
religious or wonder whether you're an evolutionist, we
5:35:48
believe that everything has some kind of combined thing, comes
5:35:51
from a source. Am I right?
5:35:54
Missing mod, whether you believe in God or you believe in
5:35:57
evolution, or both. Everything comes as a
5:36:00
cosmological relationship. Right.
5:36:04
But Brett, my point is in the standard evolutionary model.
5:36:09
These animals do not look similar because they're related.
5:36:13
They they turned into something. That looks like a raccoon twice
5:36:17
in separate cases. We're supposed, that's what
5:36:21
we're expected to believe. I find that very far-fetched.
5:36:30
It doesn't seem possible. It doesn't seem statistically
5:36:33
possible that the head of, that animal looks exactly like a
5:36:37
raccoon by coincidence. What do you think that
5:36:42
genetically spliced? I think that they're related,
5:36:49
that seems like the most obvious explanation that they're wrong,
5:36:54
that they're unrelated. They're obviously have to me, it
5:36:57
seems like the simplest explanation is that they are
5:37:02
related. And whatever their model of how
5:37:06
they originated is incorrect, as not just a coincidence.
5:37:10
It's they've their model as some mistakes and they have to
5:37:14
explain it away by these coincidences.
5:37:17
That's what did they claim in this big?
5:37:19
Fucking some of its came from. I don't know.
5:37:24
The thing does have a head like a raccoon for sure.
5:37:28
I got three fucking raccoons out there and one of them is going
5:37:31
to be doing roller derby. And the kick is legs working.
5:37:37
Everything is like identical. Isn't it like black in the eyes
5:37:42
and then white on the side? Like isn't that the same as
5:37:44
actually? I should just look at a picture
5:37:46
of a raccoon. Some of them looked very, very
5:37:48
Raccoonus for sure, some of them.
5:37:50
What kind of dog? Yes, some of them look like
5:37:57
nearly identical. So what are they being
5:37:59
categorized at? If they're not in the raccoon
5:38:02
family. Let me look at this page real
5:38:07
quick, let me find it again because I have a big list of
5:38:09
these damn things. That's a weird-looking fucking
5:38:13
creature. It looks like a others are
5:38:16
neither one. Let's see what we got.
5:38:19
Is this fucking thing that's not a raccoon.
5:38:23
What the fuck? Okay, so this thing is called a
5:38:28
raccoon dog. Say I was saying earlier that
5:38:33
some of them look like fucking dogs.
5:38:35
So this is an Asia. Let me sorry.
5:38:41
You're not seeing what I'm seeing.
5:38:43
I got you up on the screen man. I know but I didn't show it.
5:38:49
Okay, so here's a raccoon dog. We're supposed to believe that
5:38:55
these are not related to raccoons.
5:38:58
Where the heck did it go. There we go.
5:38:59
Okay. So this supposedly is not
5:39:04
related to a raccoon. That looks like a raccoon too.
5:39:11
Try to get a better shot of like a full-body.
5:39:13
Now, it does look dog. Like that.
5:39:14
Looks like a like a collie or something.
5:39:21
Well, there's kind of variations of it to their Jeff.
5:39:23
This one's a Japanese one. This one, you can see it's more
5:39:35
dog-like. There's a picture of that thing
5:39:40
that you just put up on front set, next to the, put a raccoon
5:39:45
right next to it and they do look alike.
5:39:47
That's a dog, though. This is, yeah, that thing that
5:39:53
you just put up, that's actually identified as a dog.
5:39:56
I was doing a Google search. It's a called the Tanuki dog.
5:40:00
And they put it right next to a raccoon.
5:40:03
They do look very similar. Well, it's not a dog in the it's
5:40:06
not a true dog, though. That, you know, in Mario 3, when
5:40:10
he turns into a raccoon suit thing, that's what that's what
5:40:13
it is. But I'm pretty sure this isn't a
5:40:16
Caitlin other words. It's not a canine But it's
5:40:19
called the t a n u Ki dog. Write a lot of these animals
5:40:27
have the same names. It's like they are called a rat
5:40:30
or a wolf, or a dog and they look like rats and wolves and
5:40:33
dogs. But there They're in these
5:40:36
different groups. so I think this one though, is, This one is
5:40:44
a dog. I think you're right.
5:40:50
Because it says it's a canid. It's not a canine but it's Kane
5:40:55
dead. Yeah.
5:40:59
The the raccoons they tend to have like little fucking Clause.
5:41:04
Kind of like a cat does, but that thing look at its paws.
5:41:08
It's got paws on it. Yeah.
5:41:10
They have like almost like hands, right?
5:41:12
Like more like human or monkey type hands.
5:41:15
Oh yeah, - fuck you up to. They can hold the hot dog in
5:41:18
there and shit and look at you crazy.
5:41:27
Anyways, I'm kind of repeating myself but the keep the point
5:41:30
I'm trying to make here with these images.
5:41:32
Is that according to the standard explanation of
5:41:35
evolution traits are coincidentally similar-looking.
5:41:40
They just happened to coincidentally look similar.
5:41:46
Not because of a common ancestor.
5:41:51
Or common designer in your case, it's all.
5:41:56
Well, there are some people believe in a God and believe in
5:41:58
evolution but yeah, a lot of these things look very fucking
5:42:02
similar. As far as the raccoon thing
5:42:04
goes, I would probably have to argue that the same with the
5:42:08
cats and the dogs, you got big-ass fucking wolves and then
5:42:12
you got these little bitty pungent, fucking squeaky things
5:42:15
you kick across the room. Course, I'd never do something
5:42:22
like that. I'm just kidding.
5:42:28
I think when one is a marsupial and the other one, isn't it?
5:42:31
Just ends up being kind of To me, it seems hard to explain
5:42:37
what the current theory. Or like pangolins and
5:42:47
armadillos. Penguins and armadillos not
5:42:52
Penguins pangolins England's. What the fuck was that?
5:43:00
Have you ever seen those things are like weird, scaled.
5:43:04
Mammals that clear-headed found that there was a kangaroo rat
5:43:08
tonight. I didn't even know something
5:43:10
like that existed, which got for me so many penguins.
5:43:14
Yeah, it's a Pangolin angolan. All right, and golden.
5:43:23
They look like, armadillos sort of.
5:43:26
We're like a like a. So it's also called a spiny
5:43:29
anteater. This thing.
5:43:37
Matt fucked up looking right there.
5:43:43
That's weird. What a how did you end up
5:43:49
finding this kind of shit. A penguin, I don't know.
5:43:54
I've known about penguins for example, I didn't know that
5:43:57
they, I always sort of just assumed that they were more
5:44:02
closely related to armadillos Yeah, but a lot of these
5:44:07
creatures have extremely unusual fucking names.
5:44:11
You type in dog, wolf a raccoon and Google.
5:44:14
It's going to. It doesn't really doesn't throw
5:44:17
all this random shit up like that.
5:44:19
Unless you really, really were to dig.
5:44:22
How did you come to the knowledge of these fucking
5:44:24
things? I never seen anything like that
5:44:26
before. What pangolins actually were
5:44:30
part of? They were in the news with the
5:44:32
coronavirus. You know how they were linking
5:44:35
it to like Research with bats and different rare animals and
5:44:39
stuff. Yeah, they said that there was
5:44:42
this fucking restaurant that was doing bats as well as snakes and
5:44:47
shit but you never heard of not like that before.
5:44:52
Well, if you type in Pangolin, you'll see coronavirus stuff
5:44:55
come up a lot. But the other thing about this
5:44:59
brand is this is a mammal but it looks like it has scales like a
5:45:02
reptile Creepy penguin. I could just seems really
5:45:11
strange that. that a mammal would look like that.
5:45:24
Oh, I see which doctor might. Yeah.
5:45:25
Bunch of the corona SATs coming up.
5:45:33
And this pretty odd looks a little bit more ignorant than a
5:45:38
are Mandela though. Yeah, we get a lot of armadillos
5:45:45
around here. I used to think this fucking
5:45:48
things are just in the desert but you didn't.
5:45:52
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember I seen some motherfucking thing.
5:45:56
Come around the side of my home and I thought for sure it was a
5:45:59
possum cuz we opossums all time. I'm like, what the fuck?
5:46:04
I said honey. Look at that shit.
5:46:06
Excuse oh my God. It's an armadillo and shit.
5:46:09
Michael yeah, motherfucker came over and started fucking around
5:46:12
our cat food. Wow.
5:46:18
Yeah I was shocked because I mean we live out in like let's
5:46:23
put it this way. I live, so deep out in the woods
5:46:25
and Jason Voorhees would be scared to come here.
5:46:29
That fucking arm and do admit. What the fuck is that thing?
5:46:37
What do you think that is? Looks like a fucking dick doctor
5:46:43
something. I don't know what it is.
5:46:45
Look like a Star Wars creatures that it does.
5:46:49
It's a surprise after it, it's a baby platypus.
5:46:54
That's a baby platypus huh? Wow that's does.
5:46:59
Look that looks like fucking baby Yoda.
5:47:03
It's kind of cute. It's a cute and disgusting and
5:47:07
ugly at the same time. Yeah, it's kind of weird as fuck
5:47:12
and I don't think I've ever seen a baby one of them before you
5:47:15
and creepiest, fuck. At the same time.
5:47:20
I said, those are real, I don't know.
5:47:21
You're right. And I mean, you can't just trust
5:47:23
a Google search. Yeah, I've seen I've seen have
5:47:29
you seen the pig people in the cow guy yet?
5:47:35
Probably. Are you sure that that's not
5:47:47
some kind of some of these fucking things?
5:47:50
Aren't genetically spliced? Because I've seen some weird
5:47:53
creatures. They made doing genetic splicing
5:47:58
I mean, I don't think that that's what it is.
5:48:00
But I don't I can't say that. I'm sure it's not older.
5:48:04
Sorry. Yeah, that is weird.
5:48:11
I don't think I've ever really looked up a baby platypus
5:48:14
either. Or seen I don't think I've seen
5:48:17
an image of one. We see what we got here.
5:48:22
You know what I think Colette I think platypuses are like the
5:48:26
weirdest animals to try to explain.
5:48:32
Cuz they're just like a mixture of all.
5:48:35
Birds stuff and mammals. And they lay eggs.
5:48:39
And they swim like it just doesn't make sense to be a
5:48:42
mammal. And they have like, weird
5:48:45
electric electricity powers and stuff.
5:48:51
Here we go. Here's some genetically spliced.
5:48:53
Animals of fiddle. Let me put this shit on the
5:48:58
screen. There we go.
5:49:02
We got some wood. Yeah.
5:49:05
I'm going to go see they've made made it to where fucking my skin
5:49:14
glow in the dark. Sure.
5:49:16
Yeah, I see. I don't know what the hell.
5:49:21
This is claiming that they did to the pig.
5:49:27
Let me see. They made a what looks like a
5:49:30
genetically modified fish. They made a pig with the fucking
5:49:35
yellow nose. I don't know what the hell they
5:49:37
were thinking when they did that, look at this fucking for
5:49:43
bastard. No, that's something that has to
5:49:46
be Photoshop. That's bullshit.
5:49:50
That's fucking nonsense. Let me see what we got.
5:49:56
Well yeah. Seems like a lot of its Pig
5:50:04
stuff. Look what they did to the
5:50:06
rabbit. I can't see that.
5:50:10
Well, I'd probably I can't show that too long on the screen that
5:50:15
looked like there. They've got the poor creature
5:50:17
stretched out and tied up. I don't want to put that shit up
5:50:22
there. Glow-in-the-dark rabbit.
5:50:31
We got a fish but they did with the colors.
5:50:36
That looks cool. My wife gets those cats glowing
5:50:48
in the dark. I ain't sticking around that was
5:50:51
fucking crazy for you to hell. Yeah.
5:50:59
So how do you feel about? I mean, we're looking at
5:51:01
genetics and all that. What's your thoughts about
5:51:04
harvesting, though? Harvesting what?
5:51:10
Well, like let's say, instead of burying people are cremating
5:51:14
them use their limbs or their organs and shit like that?
5:51:18
Well, we kind of do that already with the organs but what about
5:51:21
arms and legs and show like that and body parts?
5:51:27
I think it's fine if the human agreed to it it is kind of
5:51:32
weird. That's kind of strange.
5:51:40
But I don't know. It seems like a good thing.
5:51:43
I mean it would be creepy if they were like harvesting people
5:51:46
without their consent or like, To a point where they're killing
5:51:50
people to harvest them or something.
5:51:54
Why do you think people get? So out of shape about cloning
5:51:57
business for I don't know. What is a seahorse one?
5:52:08
We already see that scroll up. Just slightly.
5:52:12
This. Yeah.
5:52:17
Modified glittering, gold seahorses.
5:52:23
Looks like these are freaking weird to.
5:52:26
Yeah, those are odd creatures because they're considered a
5:52:29
fish but they give live birth but it's the male that gives
5:52:34
light birth and they have a weird like pouch thing to like a
5:52:39
I got marsupial or something. It is that is one thing that has
5:52:52
caused me to question some things about the I still have my
5:52:59
questions whenever it comes to creationism as well but I don't
5:53:04
understand why God created all these kind of animals and
5:53:07
creatures, that man would not find until many many years
5:53:11
later. That's hard for me.
5:53:18
It's kind of like the planets thing.
5:53:19
Why create so many planets for its humanity?
5:53:23
Is what we're going to focus on. What in the hell is that?
5:53:33
It looks like they need the the fucking pig grow hair.
5:53:39
You see that? Yeah.
5:53:45
Is it? I don't do they got it.
5:53:49
Yeah, but this thing looks like it's got hair like a fucking dog
5:53:53
on him. Oh yeah, I guess right below
5:53:58
that. Oh wait.
5:54:02
It's the same thing or something.
5:54:04
Look at the one right next to it.
5:54:07
This. Yeah. oh, maybe those are just
5:54:15
Genetically modified pigs, may prevent bacon, shortages.
5:54:21
I didn't realize that we had a problem.
5:54:23
I thought pigs are pretty easy to take care of well, they are
5:54:28
doing experiments where they're trying to turn chickens and
5:54:31
stuff into dinosaurs like into non-avian dinosaurs.
5:54:35
Mmm, is that one of the things you were talking about where you
5:54:39
got sort of tricked into? Yeah, somebody said that an
5:54:44
ostrich gave birth to something that look like a it look in the
5:54:50
image. It looked a hell of a lot, like
5:54:52
a raptor, but with a smaller head, long neck, Hmm.
5:55:00
I mean imagine if a raptor had a real long neck and shit and its
5:55:05
body was real thin and Slinky. That's what it looked like they
5:55:09
looked real, the Photoshop deal. What if what the fuck do they
5:55:22
keep making this shit? Glow-in-the-dark for why they
5:55:25
doing it to the animals? What the fuck is this?
5:55:32
Human-animal hybrids. That's obviously a fake one
5:55:39
breath. Is that the thing you're talking
5:55:42
about that like Pigman or something right below that one.
5:55:47
Yeah. See.
5:55:52
That's why you got to be sculptures or something.
5:55:56
You got to be careful at Google or full shit.
5:56:05
Look at this, this is the cow a man or whatever the hell it is.
5:56:13
Yeah, that's gross. All right.
5:56:25
Yeah, that baby that thing right there looks pretty badass,
5:56:28
though. The weird platypus looks weird.
5:56:41
Boil G-Man, Aiden. Got into it earlier that me.
5:56:48
I felt like G-Man was not. He didn't seem upset to me but
5:56:54
he didn't. It seem kind of frustrated know
5:56:58
you had a lot of shit on his mind if I know that a buddy of
5:57:02
mine is going through some shit. Everything I try not to Get them
5:57:07
all. Fucking worked up.
5:57:12
Let's see. It's a lot easier.
5:57:17
When you're in real life, you can kind of see people's body
5:57:20
gestures and shit. Social media can be tricky.
5:57:28
Let's see. That is weird.
5:57:29
I never seen that fucking thing behind it.
5:57:33
I don't think of it in a ya. Eva is a weird-looking creature,
5:57:37
for sure. Sub.
5:57:55
I didn't realize that that it bothered you that bad and ho
5:57:59
animal thing. yeah, well, I don't know like It's one of my
5:58:09
kind of core beliefs but I've kind of over the years eased up
5:58:13
on it a little bit. Like I think I used to be more
5:58:18
like I used to Value all animal life in a way and more recently
5:58:24
over the years. I just there's certain animals
5:58:27
where they just seem kind of just not as much of a liveliness
5:58:35
and a soul to them. That I don't feel as bad about
5:58:40
something happening to them. Like eating cows or something.
5:58:45
I feel like it's really bad. but, Like to kill a cow.
5:58:53
I think is a bad thing. But when I see a cow in real
5:58:58
life and they just seem kind of like, I don't know, there's no
5:59:03
way to really talk about it without it, selling fucked up,
5:59:06
but they just seem like, kind of like vacant soulless retard
5:59:10
animals. They don't seem like there's a
5:59:12
whole lot going on in their Consciousness or their mind or I
5:59:18
don't know how to explain it, like, just certain animals see
5:59:20
like a cat or a dog. Obviously has a Spark of life to
5:59:25
its eyes. There's obviously a lot of
5:59:28
emotion there. I seen a cow a long time ago,
5:59:33
that seems very Lively, most cows, I've seen are retarded
5:59:38
just as you say but I've seen one whenever I was a little boy,
5:59:42
I was I was aggravated as fuck and my father'd move.
5:59:47
My mom before they divorced. We moved out the Illinois and
5:59:51
they there was a side yard filled with a head like a
5:59:55
teenage cow in it. Pretty decent size, but not one
5:59:59
of these big fucking overgrown monster looking cows, right?
6:00:02
So I walked up to the fence. The thing came over to me and I
6:00:08
started walking in a direction away from it, and it followed
6:00:12
me. And then I started kind of
6:00:15
jogging a little bit, and it started running after me.
6:00:18
And then I went as fast as I could, and that fucking thing
6:00:22
kept running back and forth, but, you know, that.
6:00:25
And I said, do you understand what?
6:00:27
Doing and the cow just kind of shook its head like a fucking
6:00:30
knew what was going on. Yeah.
6:00:33
First time I ever seen a fucking cow actually seemed like it was
6:00:37
communicating in some way or responding as where most of
6:00:42
them. They just kind of sit around eat
6:00:44
fucking grass. They might look at you, all
6:00:48
right? But this one was awesome, it had
6:00:51
that, that glare and a tie and she said it was so interesting
6:00:55
here. So that kind of plays into my
6:00:57
eye I have this sort of had this theory for a while that for this
6:01:01
might be an established thing. I don't know it may not be
6:01:04
unique to my own thing but I've had this idea that it seems like
6:01:07
farm animals in particular have that sort of vacant soullessness
6:01:13
to them. And it may be the case that it's
6:01:16
not something to do with cows necessarily it has to do with
6:01:21
farm cows cart cows that have been farmed by humans for a long
6:01:25
period of time to be eaten, where it's been selected for
6:01:29
this sort of more vacant dead retard cow thing where they
6:01:37
don't want them to be as Lively and curious and Alive, you know?
6:01:44
So that maybe there are exceptions to that.
6:01:49
It was the only cow I ever seen. And I did they ask those people
6:01:53
because I was worried about it. I asked them.
6:01:56
I said, you're not going to eat that cow.
6:01:58
No, no, it's our pet. Nobody, that's my seems like a
6:02:02
pet cow would not necessarily be like lifeless in that same way.
6:02:08
Now they love the shit out of the animal, they patted it and
6:02:12
they were sweet to it and all that it seemed like you had a
6:02:15
lot of life in it. There's no fucking way.
6:02:18
I would have been able to be a part of either killing or eating
6:02:22
that particular cow. Yeah.
6:02:26
That's, that's very interesting. Yeah.
6:02:32
Yeah. It's so that's why I wonder, you
6:02:35
know, we've got a lot of Farmland around here.
6:02:38
Missouri's got a lot of farmland and I ain't never seen a Smart
6:02:43
Cow like that sense. But all these cows around here
6:02:46
usually used You know, make steaks out of than shit.
6:02:51
So maybe they just said, fuck it, we're dead anyway.
6:02:55
You know our time is limited when as well eat the grass and
6:02:58
the shit ourselves. Yeah, I've seen I've seen
6:03:11
possums and shed and all kinds of different creatures that if
6:03:16
they're loved, they seem to have there does seem to be some kind
6:03:20
of light in their eyes or seems to be something going on.
6:03:23
But I think that animal some of them.
6:03:26
I know this might sound fucked up, but I think some animals are
6:03:29
aware that their their life will end, and they just kind of give
6:03:35
up That makes sense. I'm going to grab me a smoke.
6:03:39
I'll be right back. Hey you talk people if you want
6:03:48
to tell me about the Platypus thing.
6:03:54
If anybody's here, do you have a comment?
6:03:57
maybe post something I don't do too well with just kind of
6:04:03
talking. without someone to talk to
6:09:03
Alright, I'm back. Let me say, welcome back.
6:09:16
You ever talked to a logical plausible before.
6:09:22
I don't think so. I don't think I haven't heard of
6:09:25
that person. He's pretty cool.
6:09:28
I see that he might have a Let me see.
6:09:32
It looks like he he may not have his life, so going no more.
6:09:38
That's too bad. Now, looks like we get a lot of
6:09:44
listeners and viewers. We've been getting some good
6:09:46
views on these shows. I just wish more people would
6:09:50
come in and actually have a discussion.
6:09:54
Yeah, my people just want to come to a podcaster.
6:10:00
Fucking Lester. Have you watched that that
6:10:03
expanding Earth video? Not yet.
6:10:09
Let me see, let me see if he gonna hold on one second.
6:10:14
I want to give you something real quick.
6:10:20
You would like, you would like these guys because they're very,
6:10:23
very scientific and it looks like they got a live room.
6:10:28
Here. Go to this link right here.
6:10:35
And come on in. I'm going to go in there.
6:10:38
Mine in with me.