Latest / Coaches Corner / SEG 3 - Wbb Show w Geno & Cav Mar 4
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We're back at Cafe Or with Geno Oriema and Mike Kavanaugh.
- 0:03Speaker 1: They're talking about the Olympic team, the amount of Hockey
- 0:06Speaker 1: East guys played in the games in the US and Canada.
- 0:11Speaker 1: These two guys, Geno is a big hockey fan. Speaking
- 0:14Speaker 1: of which, Mike, you have an interesting dynamic. You worked
- 0:18Speaker 1: for Jerry York not only at BC but at Bowling Green.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Jerry is the all time winning his coach in the
- 0:23Speaker 1: history of college hockey. You work alongside and also friends
- 0:29Speaker 1: with the winningest coach in college basketball history. You know
- 0:33Speaker 1: him in a different way, but you see the same dynamic,
- 0:37Speaker 1: the same amount of success that both coaches have had.
- 0:41Speaker 1: What's that dynamic like when you watch from afar, how
- 0:45Speaker 1: Jerry works, how they like and how are they different?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Yes, Jerry wouldn't be having a Manhattan at this radio show,
- 0:52Speaker 2: that's for sure, But what would.
- 0:56Speaker 3: He be having, say like Ginger Ale Ginger, Yeah, probably
- 1:00Speaker 3: I knew he was a dud.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Oh so I fit right in with him?
- 1:04Speaker 2: Then, No, I think you know, I think where they're
- 1:08Speaker 2: both very similar is and it was I got a
- 1:12Speaker 2: chance to during COVID when you came to the game.
- 1:16Speaker 4: I was able to put you to finally together.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I think were it both very similar, is like
- 1:22Speaker 2: they really are passionate about their school. Jerry was very
- 1:28Speaker 2: very passionate, and he taught me that, you know, we
- 1:31Speaker 2: support all the sports here at BC when I was
- 1:34Speaker 2: at BC, Like, I want you to go to a
- 1:35Speaker 2: field hockey game, I want you to go to a
- 1:37Speaker 2: volleyball game. I want you to be part of the
- 1:40Speaker 2: fabric of this community and just don't be in your
- 1:44Speaker 2: own little bubble. And I think Geno's very similar. I
- 1:46Speaker 2: remember one of the first head coaches meetings. I went
- 1:49Speaker 2: to Nathan First, who's in the background, was giving an
- 1:53Speaker 2: admission speech, and the track team was whatever. The tracks
- 1:58Speaker 2: team was all upset because they couldn't get early reads.
- 2:01Speaker 2: And there's Genos sticking up for the track team, you know,
- 2:04Speaker 2: and I'm looking at him, going wow, I mean this
- 2:06Speaker 2: is pretty cool, Like this is the all time winning
- 2:09Speaker 2: a women's basketball coach and he's sticking up for the
- 2:12Speaker 2: track team. And I think that's where they were both
- 2:15Speaker 2: very similar. They're just passionate about their university. But the
- 2:21Speaker 2: other thing I learned is they're very different, but you
- 2:24Speaker 2: can be effective leader in different ways. Jerry was a
- 2:30Speaker 2: very effective leader, doing things differently. He probably wasn't as
- 2:35Speaker 2: vocal and tough on his players as you were.
- 2:38Speaker 4: He probably let me do that.
- 2:40Speaker 2: But you know, the way that Gino runs practice and
- 2:44Speaker 2: the way Jerry runs practice was very different. But they're
- 2:47Speaker 2: both effective. Jerry was tough when he had to be,
- 2:51Speaker 2: and Gino's tough when he has to be. But the
- 2:55Speaker 2: thing that I think they both do really, really well
- 2:59Speaker 2: is that they recruit good kids. They recruit good players.
- 3:05Speaker 2: They demand discipline and respect, but they let the player play.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Like I can imagine I wasn't here when you had
- 3:12Speaker 2: Diana Tarazzi, but and she was.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Here today right practice was around, but.
- 3:18Speaker 2: It was just like I coached Johnny Gudreau. And how
- 3:21Speaker 2: do you coach Johnny Gudreau. You open the door and
- 3:23Speaker 2: you let him go like he has a canvas and
- 3:26Speaker 2: you let him paint, like you don't complicate him. And
- 3:29Speaker 2: I can imagine with Diana at times it's like I
- 3:33Speaker 2: always say, there's two types of players I hate. One
- 3:36Speaker 2: that never does what they're told and one.
- 3:38Speaker 4: That always does what they're told.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Like you need a player that is just going to
- 3:43Speaker 2: act sometimes on instinct and make a play when they
- 3:47Speaker 2: have to make a play.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Even though the coach might not love that play, They're
- 3:51Speaker 4: going to make the play.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Who's the best player that you've ever coached.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Talent wise would probably be Johnny He was really special.
- 4:01Speaker 2: He just couldn't teach a lot of the stuff he did.
- 4:03Speaker 2: But if I had to start one team, it would
- 4:05Speaker 2: have been Brian Gionta. He was our Diana Tarazzi. He
- 4:08Speaker 2: was mean, he was tough. He was five to five.
- 4:13Speaker 2: You know, he played a thousand games in the NHL
- 4:15Speaker 2: at five to five. But he was just mean, tough,
- 4:20Speaker 2: and all he cared about was winning. He was the
- 4:23Speaker 2: best player in the country. We won a national tournament
- 4:27Speaker 2: and he didn't score one goal in the national tournament,
- 4:30Speaker 2: but he had so much of an effect on every
- 4:32Speaker 2: single game because of the way he played. He just
- 4:35Speaker 2: he willed people to win. He was probably the if
- 4:40Speaker 2: I had to start one team, he'd be the guy
- 4:41Speaker 2: i'd start with.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I'm always curious when I'm talking to coaches about how
- 4:51Speaker 3: early do you know? When I saw Diana play in
- 4:55Speaker 3: high school, I remember thinking there's just.
- 5:05Speaker 4: There's just something that.
- 5:08Speaker 3: She does that normal players, even exceptionally talented players, don't do,
- 5:17Speaker 3: and they do it at exactly the right time when
- 5:21Speaker 3: it needs to be done. So there's players that, you know,
- 5:27Speaker 3: I call it. There's players that hit a three run
- 5:31Speaker 3: homer in the ninth inning when their team is up
- 5:33Speaker 3: eight to two. And then there's guys that strike out
- 5:38Speaker 3: with the bases loaded when it's a one run game,
- 5:41Speaker 3: you know. And then there's the guy that gets you know,
- 5:46Speaker 3: clears the bases when you're down to and he wins
- 5:49Speaker 3: the game for you. So and you can recognize that really,
- 5:54Speaker 3: really really early, I think in some kids, but some
- 5:57Speaker 3: kids maybe you can't. Now, we just had our first
- 6:01Speaker 3: Olympic gold medal hockey player, right you guys watched the
- 6:04Speaker 3: Olympic state Thompson and played it at Yukon and want
- 6:08Speaker 3: a gold medal for us. And so when you're recruiting
- 6:12Speaker 3: a kid like that, do you go, this kid's going
- 6:15Speaker 3: to be a fifty goal scorer in the NHL.
- 6:18Speaker 4: No. Tage was a funny story. He was.
- 6:22Speaker 2: They have a summer tournament every year for the top
- 6:25Speaker 2: sixteen and seventeen year old kids in the country. And
- 6:28Speaker 2: I went up to Rochester, New York, that's where it was,
- 6:32Speaker 2: and I'm watching. I can't I remember the color of
- 6:35Speaker 2: the jersey.
- 6:35Speaker 4: It was red.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I don't know what the team was, and I was like,
- 6:38Speaker 2: who is this kid without a number? Like he didn't
- 6:42Speaker 2: he wasn't in the program and he was a late
- 6:44Speaker 2: ad to the team.
- 6:47Speaker 4: Nobody recruited him. He was six' five at the.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Time he was gangly and my assistant knew his dad
- 6:54Speaker 2: AND i had a connection with his advisor and that's
- 6:58Speaker 2: how we got. Him led the country and power play
- 7:02Speaker 2: goals as a freshman and had a great year as a,
- 7:04Speaker 2: sophomore and then he turned. Pro but he also got
- 7:07Speaker 2: lucky because you, know then the pro team takes. You
- 7:11Speaker 2: Saint louis took him right. Away they traded him six months,
- 7:14Speaker 2: later you, know, Crazy, YEAH i mean when you become,
- 7:18Speaker 2: pro you basically you're a piece of. Meat if you
- 7:21Speaker 2: can help, them, Great if you, can't they're going to
- 7:22Speaker 2: get rid of.
- 7:23Speaker 4: You and he was just so. Young they traded.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Him now they trade him For ryan O'Reilly and they
- 7:27Speaker 2: won A Stanley cup and it worked out great For Saint.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Louis But tage was it In.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Buffalo and where he got really lucky was the coach
- 7:35Speaker 2: got fired and the coach that they hired had coached
- 7:38Speaker 2: him at a younger, age so he had an appreciation
- 7:41Speaker 2: for his. Game but if that doesn't, happen who. Knows
- 7:44Speaker 2: it's it's really sometimes you got to be in the
- 7:46Speaker 2: right place at the right.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Time yea more With geno And mike cavan on a,
- 7:50Speaker 1: moment it's THE u kind of women's basketball coaches. Show
- 7:52Speaker 1: Coach cavar a guest here back in a minute here On,
- 7:54Speaker 1: learfield stay with.
- 7:55Speaker 4: Us