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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 12-15-25 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 4: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
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  Speaker 4: Wayne Allen Root. All right, well, here we go, ladies
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  Speaker 4: and gentlemen. Hour number two, War Zone. Wayne is off,
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  Speaker 4: maybe back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Should be back tomorrow. I shouldn't say maybe. We'll be
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  Speaker 3: back tomorrow. You can watch what's going on on the
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  Speaker 3: Gateway Pundit.
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  Speaker 8: You can go to Patriot.TV, Wayne's Rumble, Wayne's X, of course,
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  Speaker 8: from one coast to another. And I felt like we
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  Speaker 8: needed to really... Really hit a home run tonight. So
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  Speaker 8: we banged out three guests. So we had Hans Despain
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  Speaker 8: just on with us, economics professor over at UMass Amherst.
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  Speaker 7: A little later on, we.
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  Speaker 8: Have an author and another professor joining us at the
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  Speaker 8: bottom of this hour. And right now, we are being
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  Speaker 8: joined by Ben Proto, who is the chairman of the
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  Speaker 8: Republican Party in the state of Connecticut. But he's also
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  Speaker 8: the newly appointed budget chair for the Republican National Committee.
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  Speaker 3: So, Ben, good evening. Thanks for coming on. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, how you doing? It's good to see you. Normally
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  Speaker 7: we're just talking to each other. That's true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Ben's on with me once a week and
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  Speaker 3: it's always by phone.
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  Speaker 8: So now we get a chance to look face to
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  Speaker 8: face on some of this stuff. So let me ask
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  Speaker 8: you a financial question to start with before we get
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  Speaker 8: into some of the other stuff. How do you see
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  Speaker 8: the party's financial strategy evolving to support candidates in the
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  Speaker 8: 2026 midterms, especially.
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  Speaker 3: In battleground type states? What do you think is going
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  Speaker 3: to happen?
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  Speaker 5: You know, we just had our budget meeting last week
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  Speaker 5: to put together the 26th budget for the RNC.
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  Speaker 7: And we're looking right now.
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  Speaker 5: We have more money cash on hand at the RNC
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  Speaker 5: than the DNC, the DCCC and the Democratic Senate Committee combined.
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  Speaker 5: Just the RNC, never mind the NRCC or the NRSC,
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  Speaker 5: our sister committees. So we have more money in the
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  Speaker 5: RNC than the three of them combined cash on hand.
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  Speaker 5: Our fundraising has exploded this year. We expect it's going
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  Speaker 5: to explode next year. We just put a budget together
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  Speaker 5: that is primarily focused on funding the states and our candidates.
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  Speaker 5: There was an argument before the Supreme Court this past
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  Speaker 5: Tuesday that we're waiting on a decision for, which, if
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  Speaker 5: it goes in our favor, will unleash even more money
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  Speaker 5: from the RNC and state parties into candidates, which will
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  Speaker 5: remove the coordinated expenses limits that currently exist that we
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  Speaker 5: can spend on federal candidates. But we've budgeted a substantial
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  Speaker 5: amount of money for our state parties and for our
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  Speaker 5: candidates across the country.
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  Speaker 7: We are committed to holding the majority.
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  Speaker 5: In both the House and the Senate and making Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump a four-year president, not a two-year president.
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  Speaker 8: Is that normal, the money disparity with the Republicans and
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  Speaker 8: the Dems, or is that something out of the blue?
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  Speaker 7: It's a little out of the blue.
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  Speaker 5: Look, the party in power always obviously has better fundraising
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  Speaker 5: advantages than the party out of power. But the Democrats,
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  Speaker 5: as you know, when Kamala Harris ran last year. She raised,
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  Speaker 5: or combined with the other parties, her parties raised about
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  Speaker 5: $ 3 billion and ended up $ 20 million in the hole,
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  Speaker 5: which they're still trying to pay off.
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  Speaker 7: We have really raised a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot of money during the 24 cycle, again in 25,
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  Speaker 5: with the help of President Trump and J.D. Vance, our
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  Speaker 5: vice president and finance chair of the RNC. So we're
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  Speaker 5: in really great shape. And I think we're ready to
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  Speaker 5: compete across the country to hold the majority in.
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  Speaker 7: The House and the Senate.
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  Speaker 8: Kamala should ask the Somalis in Minnesota to lend her
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  Speaker 8: some money.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they have a couple of billion dollars that
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  Speaker 5: her vice presidential candidate helped get to them.
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  Speaker 7: You know, a few dollars here and there that I'm
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  Speaker 7: sure they can spare.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, why not? Give it to her.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, all right, so with Trump's, the administration, his recent
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  Speaker 8: policies on immigration, border security, you can see that that's
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  Speaker 8: gaining traction. I know there's pushback in some places.
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  Speaker 3: There's people who are protesting ICE.
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  Speaker 8: There was even, you know, a potential terror threat that
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  Speaker 8: was going to go after ICE. But, you know, do
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  Speaker 8: you think that Republicans can draw from, let's say, the
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  Speaker 8: experience with some of these sanctuary cities, When, you know,
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  Speaker 8: here in Connecticut, the sanctuary city situation and the ice
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  Speaker 8: situation is horrible. But do you think other states can
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  Speaker 8: draw from that chaos and use it when they campaign?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when we look at where we were under
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  Speaker 5: Joe Biden and where we are today, in the first
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  Speaker 5: 10 months of President Trump's administration, there's been about 117,000
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  Speaker 5: border encounters.
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  Speaker 7: That's during the first 10 months.
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  Speaker 5: Under Joe Biden, they averaged about 187,000 a month. So
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  Speaker 5: the reduction is substantial. We also know that when you
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  Speaker 5: have sanctuary cities, what happens? Well, illegal immigrants figure out, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I can go to these cities and I can be protected.
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  Speaker 5: And when you see that happen, what happens? You see
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  Speaker 5: murder rates go up. You see violent crime rates go up.
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  Speaker 5: You see housing costs go up. You see taxes go up.
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  Speaker 9: Why?
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  Speaker 5: Because those cities are usually funded either through the city
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  Speaker 5: or through the state or both or the counties in
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  Speaker 5: those states that have counties where they're funding programs for
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  Speaker 5: illegal immigrants. And it's costing taxpayers more money to do that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's an it's an opportunity for Republicans to
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  Speaker 5: make that case. of that when you have sanctuary cities,
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  Speaker 5: it drives costs up, it drives crime up, it drives
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  Speaker 5: more problems up in those cities, which you have to
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  Speaker 5: then pay more to counter. And it becomes a very
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  Speaker 5: vicious circle where the only people who truly lose are
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  Speaker 5: the taxpayers.
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  Speaker 8: Ben Proto is the chairman of the Republican Party. He's
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  Speaker 8: also the newly appointed budget chair for the Republican National Committee.
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  Speaker 3: Economic issues.
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  Speaker 8: We were just talking a little bit about the economy
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  Speaker 8: with my last my last guest. And, you know, inflation,
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  Speaker 8: energy independence, you know, high cost of of just life
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  Speaker 8: in general is I think it's just soul sucking.
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  Speaker 3: It just is. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 8: I just don't feel like it's come down. And, you know,
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  Speaker 8: the midterms, it's always blame the person in power. But
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  Speaker 8: I feel like this is obviously any economic strife that
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  Speaker 8: we're feeling is prior to President Trump. So how do
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  Speaker 8: you how do you navigate that again for the 2026
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  Speaker 8: election cycle?
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  Speaker 5: Again, Lee, when we look at where we are under
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  Speaker 5: Joe Biden, Americans lost about $ 2, 900 a year in purchasing
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  Speaker 5: power under Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 7: They've gained back.
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  Speaker 5: And they've got about $ 700 more now in purchasing power
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  Speaker 5: than they had. When we look at housing costs, housing
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  Speaker 5: costs are on the rise under Joe Biden. They're coming
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  Speaker 5: down under President Trump, we're seeing interest rates come down.
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  Speaker 5: When interest rates come down, a couple of things happen.
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  Speaker 5: Mortgages become more available. The American dream becomes more attainable.
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  Speaker 5: That's all because of what President Trump has put in place.
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  Speaker 5: And when we look at the big, beautiful bill, where
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  Speaker 5: we're not taxing tips, we're not taxing overtime, there's no
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  Speaker 5: tax on Social Security or the $ 6, 000 person. tax deduction, $ 12, 000
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  Speaker 5: if you're married, if you're 65 or older. All of
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  Speaker 5: those things are going to drive economic power for individuals.
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  Speaker 5: There are going to be people in this country who
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  Speaker 5: are going to get tax refunds who've never gotten a
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  Speaker 5: tax refund in their life because of Donald Trump's big,
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  Speaker 5: beautiful bill that were put in place by the Republicans.
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  Speaker 5: And it's important to remember as well that a lot
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  Speaker 5: of what drives this is our health care costs. And
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  Speaker 5: we're looking at, right now, we're in the argument over
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  Speaker 5: the extension of the COVID era subsidies that the Democrats
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  Speaker 5: put in place without a single Republican vote and put
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  Speaker 5: an end date on December 31st of 2025. But now
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to blame the Republicans for what they did.
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  Speaker 5: And what we're seeing now are states, we're seeing it
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  Speaker 5: here in Connecticut, our own governor says, hey, we're going
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  Speaker 5: to put $ 70 million in to help people pay their
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  Speaker 5: healthcare premiums because they lost their COVID subsidies.
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  Speaker 7: It's just a ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: Argument that the Democrats make that the way to solve
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  Speaker 5: the economic problem is by taking more money from taxpayers
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  Speaker 5: and putting more money into programs that produce zero economic
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  Speaker 5: gains for people, for citizens of the state in this country.
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  Speaker 8: I'm so glad that you said that, because I've been
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  Speaker 8: screaming about that very issue forever, but in particular, the last...
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  Speaker 8: A couple of months, because, again, we all feel for
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  Speaker 8: people and we all want to have people, you know,
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  Speaker 8: not have the hardship of life that some people get.
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  Speaker 8: And we would love it if everybody had health insurance.
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  Speaker 8: But I don't want to pay for somebody else's bed.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sick of it.
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  Speaker 8: And, you know, he takes the 70 million dollars and
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  Speaker 8: we're talking about Lamont. And again, it goes to the subsidy.
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  Speaker 8: So now people get lower price of health care. My
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  Speaker 8: health care is still very high. You know, I just
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  Speaker 8: I feel like I had said today, it's like squeezing
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  Speaker 8: an orange until there's absolutely nothing left. That's what is happening,
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  Speaker 8: I think, to the middle class class in some states
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  Speaker 8: across the country.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: And look, when you look at the Democrat policies and
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  Speaker 5: Republican policies, Democrat policies are about handouts. Republican policies are
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  Speaker 5: about handups, which I think we can all agree that
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  Speaker 5: there are people in the world, in particular in this country,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes need a handup. and a helping hand. That's fine.
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  Speaker 5: We have no issue with that. When you continue to
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  Speaker 5: give people free stuff, which they, for lack of a
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  Speaker 5: better term, is what it is, you're giving them money
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  Speaker 5: to buy healthcare that you and I are paying for
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  Speaker 5: for them, plus I have to pay for our own,
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  Speaker 5: then you get caught in that vicious cycle. We look
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  Speaker 5: at what President Trump has done. He's lowered drug costs.
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  Speaker 5: He's lowered health care costs. He's lowered mortgage rates. He's
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  Speaker 5: lowered interest rates. He's begun to drive down the costs
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  Speaker 5: that Americans are paying for everyday items. And yes, it's
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  Speaker 5: taking some time to get there. And I think we
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  Speaker 5: live in a world of instant gratification, unfortunately. But I
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  Speaker 5: think when we get to the election cycle next year,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to see those costs come down. And the
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  Speaker 5: economic issues that you're talking about are going to be
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  Speaker 5: the very thing that I think drives a Republican victory
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  Speaker 5: in November of 2026.
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  Speaker 3: So Ben Proto, you just answered my next question.
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  Speaker 8: Do you think that you can buck the trend every
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  Speaker 8: single midterm year?
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  Speaker 3: It is not necessarily always a disaster, but there is
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  Speaker 3: always sort of some give back. You yield some ground.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think this year could actually be different?
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  Speaker 10: I do.
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  Speaker 5: And I think we're going to see as we come
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  Speaker 5: into next year when a lot of the big, beautiful
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  Speaker 5: bill kicks in, particularly, you know, you and I are
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  Speaker 5: in Connecticut. We're the fourth best state under the big,
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  Speaker 5: beautiful bill economically and financially. And people are going to
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  Speaker 5: see huge gains from that. We're going to see more
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  Speaker 5: investment in working capital and business startups. And what does
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  Speaker 5: that mean? That means more jobs. We have more jobs.
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  Speaker 5: What does that mean? More wage earners and more workers.
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  Speaker 5: and more salary and wage and people making a living,
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  Speaker 5: being able to pay their costs. We're beginning to see costs,
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  Speaker 5: the grocery price costs come down. Hopefully, Governor Lamont will
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  Speaker 5: be leaving us shortly. We'll begin to see energy prices
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  Speaker 5: coming down here in Connecticut, property taxes coming down.
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  Speaker 7: Those are things that are really driving.
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  Speaker 5: Those are all Democrat initiatives that have driven up costs.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, I got to run, but it's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun.
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  Speaker 8: I appreciate you, and I'll talk to you again next week.
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  Speaker 7: Anytime, my friend. Look forward to it.
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  Speaker 10: You have a good one.
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  Speaker 8: There he is, Ben Croteau, chairman of the Republican Party
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  Speaker 8: in Connecticut and a regular guest on my morning show.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
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• 21:55
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• 21:59
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• 22:01
  Speaker 3: percent of the all.
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  Speaker 8: In the family shows probably could not be played today
• 22:07
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• 22:11
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• 22:14
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  Speaker 3: He's also the author of a brand new book. So Michael,
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  Speaker 4: Good evening. How are you, man?
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  Speaker 7: Good evening, Lee.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm used to saying good morning to you whenever
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  Speaker 12: we get a chance to talk. But I knew it
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  Speaker 12: was different because I have to have a jacket. You
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  Speaker 12: have your tie on.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that.
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  Speaker 12: We are definitely in prime time here.
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  Speaker 8: It's very, very, it's a little bit different. Very, very different, actually,
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: as a matter of fact. So listen, I thank you
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  Speaker 8: for coming on. I appreciate it very much. And you've
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: got a brand new book out. So let's start with that,
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: Chasing Bandits. Give me that 30,000-foot view of what this
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: is all about.
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, right here.
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: I know Hans was showing it before in his earlier segment,
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: but Chasing Bandits, America's Long War on Terror. It's a
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: case study, six case studies of these different cases in
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: which the United States was pursuing some of these.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: Proto-terrorists, if you will.
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: These were individuals who the United States was pursuing for
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: one reason or another. basically from the turn of the
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: 20th century up to the present. So I have six
• 26:04
  Speaker 12: examples of this. The last one, of course, is Osama
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: bin Laden. And this book was inspired by an undergraduate
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: course that I teach at Nichols College about the war
• 26:17
  Speaker 12: on terror, in which the genesis of the class was
• 26:21
  Speaker 12: to try to historicize the 21st century global war on terror.
• 26:26
  Speaker 12: And as I was doing research for this class, I
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: came across all these other instances in U.S. history of
• 26:33
  Speaker 12: very similar pursuits of these individuals for similar reasons who
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: were described in very similar ways. I think the language
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: across these different cases is a thread line among all
• 26:48
  Speaker 12: of them. But real quick, I'll try to give the
• 26:52
  Speaker 12: six case studies here. The first is Emilio Aguinaldo in
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: the Philippines, part of the Philippine-American War after the United
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: States colonizes the Philippines. I also look at Pancho Villa
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: in Mexico. He stages an attack on the United States
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: in Columbus, New Mexico, in March 1916 that kills 18 Americans.
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: And the way in which Pancho Villa is talked about
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: in the U.S. media, I think, is very similar to
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: the way in which Osama bin Laden is talked about
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: in the 21st century. There's Augusto Sandino in the 1920s
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: and 30s, and he was fighting against the presence of U.S.
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: Marines in his country who were there as peacekeepers. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: look at Che Guevara in Bolivia. He had resigned his
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: positions with the Cuban government, tries to foment anti-capitalist revolutions
• 27:51
  Speaker 12: around the world, first in the Congo, then in Bolivia.
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: Another chapter on Pablo Escobar in Colombia, and he's referred
• 28:00
  Speaker 12: to as a narco-terrorist, a term that his back up
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: in the news again today. And then I close with
• 28:08
  Speaker 12: Osama bin Laden. And the broader point is to show
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: that the global war on terror is really not unique
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: in U.S.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: History.
• 28:17
  Speaker 12: And I try to make the case that, indeed, I
• 28:20
  Speaker 12: think there is a utility to these individuals to try
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: to justify American military engagements abroad.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: So before we get too deep into that, I want
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: to just make sure you can tell everybody where they
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: can get the book before we sort of go in
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: a little bit further into what you've written in it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Where do they go?
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: So it's available. It was published with the University of
• 28:49
  Speaker 12: North Carolina Press. So there's the UNC Press website, but
• 28:54
  Speaker 12: also Amazon. And it's available pretty much at any kind
• 28:58
  Speaker 12: of fine online bookseller near you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: Now, how do you weave these tales all together, these
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: six different stories all together, sort of compare and contrast
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: in that when you are talking about each one?
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: That's right.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: So I'm trying to tell the stories.
• 29:15
  Speaker 12: Each of these chapters is a self-contained story, which I
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: think has a dramatic narrative to it in the sense
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: that the United States is really going through a significant
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: effort to try to find these individuals. And in some cases,
• 29:31
  Speaker 12: these are successful pursuits. And in other cases, they're not.
• 29:37
  Speaker 12: But I think the way in which these individuals are
• 29:40
  Speaker 12: talked about are very, very similar. So, for example, if
• 29:44
  Speaker 12: you could transport Osama bin Laden from the 21st century
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: to the early 20th, he probably would not be called
• 29:51
  Speaker 12: a terrorist. He'd probably be called a bandit. And conversely,
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: if what Pancho Villa did in 1916, if he did
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: something like that in the 21st century, he would be
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: called a terrorist. So I make the case in the
• 30:05
  Speaker 12: book that there is– that the terminology might be different,
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: but I think the meanings in which these individuals are
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: described is all the same. And I think this helps
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: to justify– American incursions abroad and also to bend or
• 30:22
  Speaker 12: break established rules of engagement to go after these individuals
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: through military means.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: Again, Michael Nagle is our guest, professor of history, media
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: studies program, co-chair. He's also terrorism studies. And I want
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: to get into that, if you don't mind, just a
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: little bit. I know we sort of booked this a
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: while ago. But since then, we've had a couple of
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: different acts of terrorism. And I wanted to get your
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: general assessment of what happened in Australia.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: And listen, I know that.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: I talk about this a lot on the air, but
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: it does seem often, Professor, that it's a Muslim fanatic,
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: an Islamic fanatic who causes a lot of death and destruction,
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: in particular, aiming it at our Jewish friends.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: So what are your general thoughts about what we witnessed
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: in Australia?
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, since we last spoke, we've had the shooting in Sydney.
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: ISIS also has staged an attack in Syria that killed
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: two U.S. service members, including an interpreter, which shows you
• 31:25
  Speaker 12: that ISIS is still out there. They may not have
• 31:28
  Speaker 12: their so-called caliphate anymore, but they have been staging these
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: low-intensity strikes all throughout Syria. And, yeah, clearly, these are
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: these are tragic and troubling incidents that are going on.
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: I mean, one in Australia in particular, it seems like
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: it was a father and son that were involved in
• 31:53
  Speaker 12: this shooting. And I think one of the things to
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: even more broadly, you know, to assess or to call
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: something terrorism, it's important first to establish motive. You'll have
• 32:08
  Speaker 12: different definitions of terrorism among terrorism study scholars, even within
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: different administrations within the federal government. But I think at root,
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: it is violence or the threat of violence that has
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: a political or social objective to it. So to call
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: any act of violence terrorism, I think, is overinflating. But
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: but that the motive is crucial here. And what it
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: seems like what happened in Syria targeting specifically a Hanukkah celebration,
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: targeting a Jewish community would certainly fall under the definition
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: of terrorism.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: And I.
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: Believe it's the father was killed. The son, I think,
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: was injured, was wounded and is in a coma. So
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: I think we need to get a little bit more
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: just to understand their motives, what was driving them to
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: do this. By all appearances, it does seem like an
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: act of terror to specifically go after a.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: Jewish celebration.
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: And, you know, these things are unfortunately... more commonplace these days,
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: or at least it certainly seems that way.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I was going to ask you, are they really
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: more commonplace or are we just getting more information because
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: of the internet? And, you know, we haven't even talked
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: about the genocide essentially that's happening in Africa. I mean,
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: just about, you know, there are thousands and thousands of
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: people being slaughtered in Africa, village by village, they're going
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: and wiping out any Christians that are going on there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: And that never makes the nightly news. So this is
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: happening worldwide.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: Yeah. Particularly in Africa, this is where the global war
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: on terror has really extended. The theater of operation isn't
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: obviously Afghanistan anymore. We still have a small contingent of U.S.
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: troops in Iraq and Syria. It's still in dangerous territory
• 34:10
  Speaker 12: for sure. But it seems like Africa is the main
• 34:16
  Speaker 12: theater of operations relative to this global war on terror
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: that is not really talked about in terms of a
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: global war on terror anymore. But we still have U.S.
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: troops stationed around the world to try to tamp down
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: or at least assist local– governments to stop these various
• 34:39
  Speaker 12: rebel groups that are popping up all over Africa, including
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: a number of drone bases that the United States is
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: helping out with all across the continent.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Professor, listen, I'm sorry, the music is playing.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: I do got to go, but I want to give
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: you the opportunity one more time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: So Chasing Bandits, America's Long War on Terror is out. Amazon,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: you can get it in other places.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Professor, I can't thank you enough, buddy, and we'll talk
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: again very soon, okay?
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: Thanks very much, Lee.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Have a good night.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: You got it. There it is, Chasing Bandits. Go out
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: and get it today. A great book, great author, Michael
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Nagel joining us. All right, we've got to take one
• 35:12
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• 35:15
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• 36:06
  Speaker 9: countermeasure against fentanyl and potentially against fentanyl 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0.
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  Speaker 7: And we could talk more about that.
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  Speaker 10: And how do these solutions work?
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  Speaker 3: Very straightforward.
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  Speaker 9: So we work with the body's immune system to generate
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  Speaker 9: a protective immune response against fentanyl. That protective immune response
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  Speaker 9: binds to the fentanyl molecule and prevents it from attacking
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  Speaker 9: your brain. If fentanyl doesn't attack your brain, you don't
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  Speaker 9: have an overdose. It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 6: So who would receive these solutions and who are your
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  Speaker 6: primary targets?
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  Speaker 10: End care users?
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  Speaker 7: Good question.
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  Speaker 9: We want this to be available as an option to military,
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  Speaker 9: first responders, and frankly, all those teenagers, adolescents, et cetera,
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  Speaker 9: college students who are experimenting with drugs. There's no reason
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  Speaker 9: that we should be having 22 high school age students
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  Speaker 9: die every single week from fentanyl overdose. These students are
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  Speaker 9: being poisoned and we want to end that.
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  Speaker 6: Ultimately, how can ARMR sciences help ensure that America is prepared,
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  Speaker 6: protected and resilient against the threat of fentanyl?
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  Speaker 9: So preparation and protection are our entire ethos. We want
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  Speaker 9: to provide a shield against fentanyl. And we're doing that
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  Speaker 9: by working with the body, by working with what we
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  Speaker 9: have available to ensure that people have a defense against
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  Speaker 9: these drugs rather than just reacting defensively. to these overdoses,
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  Speaker 9: why not prevent them altogether? That's our entire mission is
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  Speaker 9: to prevent versus react.
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  Speaker 10: And are you planning to go public?
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  Speaker 6: And if so, why should investors invest in AR, MR sciences?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so we are.
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  Speaker 9: We are planning to go public in 2026, likely in
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  Speaker 9: Q1 or Q2 of 2026. This is a big mission
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  Speaker 9: and we need to unify and get behind this. So
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  Speaker 9: we want to work with every investor out there to
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  Speaker 9: make sure that this has the best possible chance of success.
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  Speaker 9: So I encourage everyone, anyone who's interested in participating ahead
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  Speaker 9: of our planned IPO to go to investarmor.com. And check
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  Speaker 9: out more about our offering. And feel free to shoot
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  Speaker 9: me an email or anyone on the team. Happy to
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: answer questions.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you, Colin Gage, CEO.
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  Speaker 6: Learn more about this American company and this great opportunity
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  Speaker 6: at investarmr.com.
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  Speaker 10: That's investarmr.com. Thank you, Colin.
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  Speaker 6: And don't forget, you can also scan the QR code
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  Speaker 6: right on that screen. A-R-M-R is a great company.
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  Speaker 5: Check it out.
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  Speaker 8: Bye.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we are back officially. War Zone, final segment here.
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  Speaker 8: Wayne Allen Root will be back tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 8: that tomorrow. You know.
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  Speaker 8: Every grand achievement begins with a single, simple act. And
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  Speaker 8: can leave it unmade, starting the day with, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: Or you get up and you make your bed.
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  Speaker 8: That tiny task, taking less than two minutes, gives you
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  Speaker 8: a quiet declaration that.
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  Speaker 8: It's a sense of pride, maybe small, but maybe it
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  Speaker 3: And by the end of the day, that small win
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  Speaker 8: Great big one, setting the tone for productivity and purpose.
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  Speaker 3: And they had attention to detail. It's huge.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm obviously making the bet is a tiny, tiny
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  Speaker 8: fraction of this. But the greatest leaders, athletes, innovators, all
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  Speaker 8: understood that excellence is built on doing the little things
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  Speaker 8: and doing them well. A perfectly executed pass in soccer
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  Speaker 8: or flawlessly writing a line of code, maybe a courteous
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  Speaker 8: email that you send to somebody. It seems minor in
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  Speaker 8: the moment, but it builds. And neglect of those things
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: may be small, but that will begin to crumble whatever
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  Speaker 8: it is that you're trying to accomplish.
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  Speaker 3: And progress demands courage.
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  Speaker 8: So face your fears head on, lean in, embrace, unleash,
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  Speaker 8: push through resistance and watch your confidence soar.
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  Speaker 3: That is how you begin the day you make the bed. Right?
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  Speaker 3: No one achieves these big goals without the little tiny
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  Speaker 3: small steps.
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  Speaker 8: And you should surround yourself with people who try to
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  Speaker 8: People who share a vision, the same vision that you
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  Speaker 8: may share. Collaborate, listen, support one another. That's, you know,
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  Speaker 8: that's how people make their way in this world and
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  Speaker 8: do great things.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 8: Setbacks come for sure. Failure, criticism, exhaustion. But resilient people
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: forge forward. Don't let the small losses or losses in
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  Speaker 8: general define you. And resilience is non-negotiable. Again, setbacks come.
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  Speaker 8: Learn from those losses.
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  Speaker 10: Adapt.
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  Speaker 3: Keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 8: Tough times don't define you, but your response to those
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  Speaker 8: tough times do.
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  Speaker 3: So be great. Take risks. Step outside your comfort zone.
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  Speaker 3: Try new approaches.
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  Speaker 8: Speak up when you used to be quiet. Being safe
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  Speaker 8: isn't necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: The way to go. Dare to stretch it out every moment.
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  Speaker 3: Be more of yourself. And you know what? You know
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  Speaker 3: when you're being yourself. It's just a great feeling inside.
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  Speaker 8: When you don't have to shut up because you feel
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  Speaker 8: like maybe it's not the right place to say.
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  Speaker 3: Something, but you go ahead and say it because it's
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  Speaker 8: Or you do something that makes you feel fantastic, even
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: though maybe in the past you wouldn't have done it.
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  Speaker 8: So making your bed isn't about just being tidy. It's
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: a symbol of self-discipline, responsibility, a commitment to a better life.
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  Speaker 8: It reminds you of what you're capable in in this
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  Speaker 8: chaotic world. Be that capable person. That single habit, right?
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  Speaker 8: That single habit will ripple through the entire day. I
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  Speaker 8: know making a bed seems silly, but make it.
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  Speaker 4: See what happens.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't do it normally, see what happens.
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  Speaker 8: Get up, make your bed, care for the little things,
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  Speaker 8: your habits, your effort, your choices, and big things will happen.
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  Speaker 3: Start tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Make your bed. All right?
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  Speaker 8: My name is Lee Elsie, filling in for the great
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