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Episode 092 - The Boston Tea Party: America’s First Group Chat Meltdown · Sorta Sophisticated

• 0:04
  Speaker A: Welcome back to Sort of Sophisticated where. Amanda, do you know them?
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  Speaker B: Yes.
• 0:09
  Speaker A: What?
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  Speaker B: Where culture, curiosity, and chaos collide.
• 0:14
  Speaker A: Yes, that's us.
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  Speaker B: I'm your host. Four C's.
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  Speaker A: Four C's? Yeah, it is four C's, but not.
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  Speaker B: My favorite four C's.
• 0:20
  Speaker A: What are your favorite four C's?
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  Speaker B: Cut, color, clarity. Carrot.
• 0:27
  Speaker A: Oh, wow. I don't even know. I don't even know what to say about that.
• 0:31
  Speaker B: That's Pete. I'm Amanda.
• 0:32
  Speaker A: That was really funny, though. That was good. I was thinking, like, ccs, you know, like.
• 0:37
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you went medical. Okay.
• 0:39
  Speaker A: Okay. Okay. What are you going to do?
• 0:41
  Speaker B: I don't know. What are we talking about today?
• 0:42
  Speaker A: We're talking about a lot of stuff today.
• 0:44
  Speaker B: Oh, we are?
• 0:44
  Speaker A: Yeah, we are. What's the agenda? I'm stealing a episode idea from you.
• 0:49
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah?
• 0:50
  Speaker A: Yeah. A few weeks ago, I think. I don't know why you brought it up. You. You were like, okay, so ready? Boston Tea Party. That's what we're talking about, everybody. Yay. Okay. I'm so excited, but I think you brought up. Cause you had just watched something on it or did something.
• 1:03
  Speaker B: We went to Boston and my favorite sweatshirt is spilling the tea since 1776.
• 1:07
  Speaker A: Done and done.
• 1:08
  Speaker B: So funny.
• 1:09
  Speaker A: Yeah. So I don't know. That was like a while ago you brought that up and I just, like, put it in the memory bank and added it to my little list of topics.
• 1:16
  Speaker B: Is it like, around this time?
• 1:17
  Speaker A: No, it's not around this time as much as it's the 250th anniversary.
• 1:21
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 1:21
  Speaker A: So United States. Oh, right. So we have the whole United States happen.
• 1:27
  Speaker B: 1776. I can math.
• 1:29
  Speaker A: 2026.
• 1:30
  Speaker B: Here we are.
• 1:31
  Speaker A: So that is the. We said this before the. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The semi. Semi quincential.
• 1:38
  Speaker B: Yeah, something like that.
• 1:39
  Speaker A: Yeah. What is it? We. We did it for semi quincentennial.
• 1:42
  Speaker B: Oh, centennial. Yes, yes.
• 1:43
  Speaker A: Semi quincentennial. Right. But that's not even really true because the Boston Tea party happened like three years before that. Even so, it was 1773. But it doesn't matter. My whole link to this is the 250th anniversary of the United States. It's worth talking about the Boston Tea Party. That's what we're doing today. What?
• 2:00
  Speaker B: But now my sweatshirt. I feel like you just called out my sweatshirt. It's 1773. We didn't spill the tea in 1776.
• 2:07
  Speaker A: No, we spilled the tea in 1773.
• 2:09
  Speaker B: But the sweatshirt is stupid.
• 2:11
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, you need To.
• 2:12
  Speaker B: It's off.
• 2:13
  Speaker A: They sold that you need to return.
• 2:14
  Speaker B: At the national monument.
• 2:17
  Speaker A: No, that's terrible.
• 2:18
  Speaker B: No, I know. Okay.
• 2:20
  Speaker A: What are you gonna do?
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  Speaker B: Sad day. Sad, sad day.
• 2:22
  Speaker A: Are you ready for this?
• 2:23
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 2:24
  Speaker A: Okay. All right. So the official title today is the Boston Tea Party. America's first group chat Meltdown.
• 2:30
  Speaker B: Here we are.
• 2:31
  Speaker A: Right. I thought that was pretty cool. I thought it was, like, really topical, you know, if we were like, group chat. I mean, anything to get the gen zers involved.
• 2:38
  Speaker B: Yeah, I guess so.
• 2:39
  Speaker A: Whatever you can do. You know what I mean?
• 2:40
  Speaker B: Yeah. Well, here we are. Well, how's it gonna make us more cultured? Because I know how it makes it more curious, because now I'm curious.
• 2:45
  Speaker A: Well, I'm arguing you probably know more than I do about this episode. I mean, I did a lot of researching.
• 2:49
  Speaker B: I don't know if I do because I wear a sweatshirt that says 1776. Evidently, was 1773.
• 2:52
  Speaker A: You went to Boston.
• 2:53
  Speaker B: Here we go. We all learn new things.
• 2:55
  Speaker A: This one is about patterns. Or as Gabby would say, patrons, because she can never say patterns correctly. She always switched the N the R Padrons. Let's go. Why is this about patterns? Because patterns help you figure out history. Like, what not to do, what to do, what to repeat, what not to repeat.
• 3:14
  Speaker B: There is that famous saying that says, we need to learn about history so we don't repeat the patterns past. Right. Mistakes.
• 3:18
  Speaker A: Okay, so I'm sort of doing this whole, like, that's my little thread of culture, right? Because this is. We tried doing the right way for a long time, and then we were sort of like, yeah, no, it doesn't work like it. We're over it. And then we had to do something that, you know, this, you know, giant issue that came up. And then here we are.
• 3:34
  Speaker B: Taxation.
• 3:35
  Speaker A: Yeah. Without representation. Okay, maybe that was different.
• 3:40
  Speaker B: We're learning. We're learning. What's our wow. Word of the week?
• 3:44
  Speaker A: Wow. Word of the week. Our word of the week today is resplendent. Resplendent.
• 3:51
  Speaker B: Resplendent.
• 3:52
  Speaker A: I feel like we should have the music of, like, Jeopardy. In the background while you do this. Okay.
• 3:58
  Speaker B: Like, respond.
• 3:59
  Speaker A: Respond.
• 4:00
  Speaker B: It would have to be from the derivative, right. Of the Latin of respond.
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  Speaker A: Shit. You're using derivatives on my ass. I don't even know what's happening.
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  Speaker B: Tell me, tell me, tell me.
• 4:07
  Speaker A: It means shining brightly or full of beauty or brilliance. Like, in a very obvious way.
• 4:14
  Speaker B: No, that's not. No.
• 4:15
  Speaker A: Like, you notice my resplendence when I walk in the room. No matter what, you can't ignore it. It's just. Yes, yes.
• 4:23
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 4:24
  Speaker A: It comes from the Latin resplendore, which literally means to shine back or reflect light. So it's not just glowing on its own, it's responding to light catching it and throwing it back in your face.
• 4:37
  Speaker B: So this would be Ruth then.
• 4:38
  Speaker A: That's what it is.
• 4:39
  Speaker B: Ruth would say she's very resplendent.
• 4:41
  Speaker A: Resplendent. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's good. I like that.
• 4:44
  Speaker B: It feels very Bridgerton.
• 4:45
  Speaker A: I'm not going to tell her that because then she'll use it. It does. Hey, are you watching?
• 4:49
  Speaker B: No, I have not watched a new season.
• 4:51
  Speaker A: I'm three ups in already.
• 4:52
  Speaker B: Really? Is it good?
• 4:53
  Speaker A: I'd like. Well, because I'm just hooked and Emma watches it with me.
• 4:56
  Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker A: Well, it's a way to be connected.
• 4:58
  Speaker B: I want to know what it's like to watch Bridgerton with your daughter. Why your 20 something year old daughter.
• 5:02
  Speaker A: That's excellent. When they're like, oh, doing it and stuff. Oh, no, dude, we're so over that. You don't even want to know. Try watching heated rivalry with your 19 year old daughter. That's gay porn, dude. Yeah, I'm a pretty decent dad. Like I can sit through all that. Doesn't matter. Like, they're probably more uncomfortable than I am. I don't care. It doesn't bother me too.
• 5:19
  Speaker B: I. Nope. Could never.
• 5:20
  Speaker A: Oh, well, what are you gonna do?
• 5:22
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 5:22
  Speaker A: Try to be.
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  Speaker B: Here we are.
• 5:23
  Speaker A: Try to be a good dad.
• 5:24
  Speaker B: Evidently they're very resplendent.
• 5:26
  Speaker A: Yeah. Let's not screw this up this time because like, I feel like the last few weeks we've screwed this up and like we haven't used the word. So we really got to get the word in.
• 5:34
  Speaker B: Okay, fine. Okay, we'll get the word in and then just ask you instead. Why don't we go ahead and brush up on the history of the tea party?
• 5:40
  Speaker A: The rushing up Boston rushing up. Let's do that. So first we're going to do the whole 8th grade history lesson and get it out of the way because this is like, duh.
• 5:48
  Speaker B: Now I need to learn.
• 5:48
  Speaker A: Anybody remembers. So the Boston Tea Party was just a bunch of guys who were like, ugh, taxes. And then got drunk, threw some tea in the harbor and yelled something like really foul or patriotic and we're like, down with the man. I'm King George, whatever it is. Right.
• 6:04
  Speaker B: I am like. And then ready to throw some tea about my taxation issues right now. But here we are.
• 6:08
  Speaker A: Tell me about it. I agree totally Very depressing. Very depressing. It's the opposite of resplendent.
• 6:14
  Speaker B: It is.
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  Speaker A: Is what it is.
• 6:15
  Speaker B: Anti. Resplendent.
• 6:16
  Speaker A: Is that a word? Unrespllendent.
• 6:18
  Speaker B: Oh, there you go.
• 6:19
  Speaker A: We'll use that.
• 6:19
  Speaker B: Unresplendent.
• 6:20
  Speaker A: I don't even know if that counts. Okay. But to be exact, because I'm going to get super sophisticated, and I got to quote this. The Boston Tea Party took place on December 16, 1773. A group of American colonists headed down to Griffin's Wharf in Boston harbor, boarded three British ships, and deliberately destroyed 342 chests of tea to protest British taxation and control. Specifically, Parliament's right to tax the colonies without their consent.
• 6:47
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 6:47
  Speaker A: That's what it officially is.
• 6:48
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 6:49
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 6:49
  Speaker B: Which I think we all kind of know.
• 6:50
  Speaker A: Okay. I didn't.
• 6:51
  Speaker B: The base of it.
• 6:52
  Speaker A: I barely knew. I thought they just got drunk and threw some shit, and I didn't realize it was all, like, the taxes and the ti. I know you a little bit, but whatever. How does that all relate? I don't even know. But here's the deal. When I sat down to do. Start, like, my little rabbit. Holy weird shit. Where I popped my ADD med, you know, and was like, let's go. Like, a lot of colonists were freaking out. Like, they didn't all agree. Like, just. I guess just like, today, duh. There was.
• 7:13
  Speaker B: Go figure, right?
• 7:14
  Speaker A: There were some people like, yeah, we're going to go do this, and, like, marched and did the whole thing. And then there were other people like, what the fuck just happened? That was bad. And now I'm freaking out, and are we going to be in trouble? And so there wasn't, like, this, like.
• 7:25
  Speaker B: Like, cohesive.
• 7:26
  Speaker A: No American colonist movement. No. Like, not at all. So then I was like, all right, I'm sor. In. Because now this got a little bit more intriguing for me, because as soon as there's history.
• 7:35
  Speaker B: Right. Repeats itself. So here we are.
• 7:36
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And. And whenever there's, like, you know, a little bit of two sides, I'm like. Or three sides, because you got British side, then you got Americans. Two sides. There's all sorts of sides anyway.
• 7:44
  Speaker B: But were we ever on the same page? That's really the question.
• 7:47
  Speaker A: Yeah, that's my point. I don't think so. But, like, if you go all the way back, I guess in learning about history, I always thought they were. I always sort of thought that they, like, get the country started.
• 7:55
  Speaker B: Right? Like, power struggle, always.
• 7:57
  Speaker A: Okay, I'm having my. Okay, you are correct. I was very unsophisticated fair. So I had to do some work.
• 8:05
  Speaker B: Were they all like, did they come up with a big plan or was this like an impulsive.
• 8:09
  Speaker A: No.
• 8:09
  Speaker B: So like down with the man. Throw the tea out.
• 8:11
  Speaker A: It's. That's a tough one because it's not like they had this calculated plan to do it. It wasn't like months in advance of planning or anything like that. But they did sort of make a plan. I'll talk about it in a little bit. But. But no, not everybody knew. So it was sort of kind of like a secret plan. And then they just were like, yeah, let's just go get started and did the thing. So let's call it like, let's call it like 24 hours in advance. They made it. Do you remember OCC. Wall Street?
• 8:33
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 8:33
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 8:34
  Speaker B: Everyone locked themselves to they like literally.
• 8:37
  Speaker A: Right down on Wall street, whatever sort of the same kind of vibe. And the reason I'm using that one is because first of all, patterns and history repeats itself. That was one of those situations where like, it was just kind of normal people, right? They weren't politicians, they weren't like these crazy ass wacko radicals or anything like that. They just sort of showed up one day and were like, yeah. You know how this whole like system technically works for like you guys in Wall Street? Well, like it doesn't work for us and we're sort of fed up and pissed about it. So they didn't have this big plan, but they just wanted to make a statement about it.
• 9:07
  Speaker B: So they were like.
• 9:08
  Speaker A: Yeah. And not in like a violent way. I think that's a really important. Because we've had. There's historical stuff that we've done in violent ways too.
• 9:15
  Speaker B: They did trash other people's property.
• 9:18
  Speaker A: They did not. What, just the tea? Well, no, we're. But I'm going to talk about a little bit about that. I have a fun fact that's going to blow your mind about the property itself, other than the tea. You are correct. They trashed the tea.
• 9:30
  Speaker B: Which. It wasn't their property.
• 9:32
  Speaker A: I got it. But they could have done a lot more damage. This is gonna be very.
• 9:34
  Speaker B: Oh, but this is not.
• 9:35
  Speaker A: No, this is gonna be a little crazy to you on how sophisticated they really were.
• 9:39
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. All right, all right, all right. So what you're telling me is, is that the tea was the least invasive thing that they could do in this way of protesting. So if it wasn't about the tea, then what was it all about?
• 9:51
  Speaker A: It was about because it was the.
• 9:52
  Speaker B: Taxation of the tea.
• 9:54
  Speaker A: No, it wasn't about any of that. Okay, I have to go back to explain, to start, like, bear with me here. Okay? So none of this is gonna make any sense unless you, like, know what's going on in England at the time or I guess, like Britain at the time to figure this out. So in 1773, Parliament passes something called the Tea Act. And weirdly, this had nothing to do with punishing the colonies. Britain was trying to fix a totally different problem. So the British East India Tea Company was basically collapsing, like, badly. And they had this massive debt and all this tea sitting in a bunch of warehouses everywhere because they made too much and did too much shit. So basically they were running a super shitty company. You get the idea. So it was like what we did with the corporate bailouts. Like, do you remember Obama with the corporate bailouts in 2008 or whatever it was?
• 10:34
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:34
  Speaker A: This is the same concept. So Parliament was like, hey, our biggest company is, like, failing. We need to do something. So they decide that they'll let the East India Tea Company sell directly to the American colonies.
• 10:45
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 10:46
  Speaker A: Okay. That's how this whole thing starts. So skipping over the middleman, which meant for the Americans. Well, I guess the colonists. Cause I don't know if they're. Are they Americans yet?
• 10:54
  Speaker B: No, not yet.
• 10:54
  Speaker A: Okay, the colonists. Okay, the colonists. So they were actually gonna get the tea cheaper. It wasn't gonna be more expensive.
• 11:01
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 11:01
  Speaker A: So it wasn't about taxes because it.
• 11:03
  Speaker B: Took a third person, third party.
• 11:05
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, right. So that's sort of an important part to understand. But that's the thing that pissed everybody off, because Britain was over there thinking like, hey, we fixed everything. This is fine. Cheaper tea. We keep the tax, everybody's happy. But we were like, yeah, no, not the point. Because if you think about it, what Britain was really doing was saying, hey, colonists, you don't get a say in shit. We can tax you, we can regulate your trade. We can decide to do whatever we want. We can bail out whoever we want. You have no rights to make any of these decisions at all, whatsoever. And so a bunch of these colonists were like, yeah, this is sort of bullshit. If we accept this about the tea, then we're buying into the whole system that, like, you're still our ruler. We're giving in. Like, this is just. Even though you're helping us right now, you're deciding our fate and our future for us. And that didn't feel right.
• 11:51
  Speaker B: Okay, so makes sense.
• 11:53
  Speaker A: The T is the representation.
• 11:55
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 11:56
  Speaker A: That's all.
• 11:57
  Speaker B: Okay, makes sense. Makes sense.
• 11:58
  Speaker A: Yes. Remember when I said patterns? It's about patterns, right? We're forming this whole idea of, like, if we let this one go, we have to let the next one go and the next one and like, where are we gonna stop? So it's a slippery ass slope.
• 12:07
  Speaker B: So really it's like, hashtag, it was never about the tea.
• 12:10
  Speaker A: Oh, totally. Yes.
• 12:11
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 12:11
  Speaker A: Absolutely. And that's, I think, why people were on two different sides. Because if you think about it, there were probably some people that were like, oh, yeah, this is totally fine. This is great. I want cheaper tea. And didn't give two shits about what was really going on. And then they were like, you know, Alexander Hamilton. Well, Alexander Hamilton was probably like 12 years old at the time, but whatever. But like, there were people like that. They were like, no, no, this is a big deal. And so there were two different camps emerging very quickly. That makes sense.
• 12:30
  Speaker B: Yes. Okay. But there has to be more details though, because, like, I know that they dumped the tea in the harbor. Now, I understand. It really wasn't about the tea in this instance. It was just about what it represented for everyone. But like all these movies, there's like shady stuff going on. There's the drama, there's creeping around the middle of the night. Like, is that actually what happened or is that just like the dramatic effect for movie production?
• 12:54
  Speaker A: I mean, it was totally dramatic effect. I wish it was better than that, but it's not.
• 12:59
  Speaker B: Oh, you know.
• 12:59
  Speaker A: You know who should have wrote a movie about this? Edgar Allan Poe should have wrote a movie about this.
• 13:03
  Speaker B: Oh, it was dark.
• 13:04
  Speaker A: He would have made it really good. No, I'm saying, like, he would like Alfred Hitchcock, I guess. Edgar Allan Poe wasn't like a movie. He was a book guy.
• 13:10
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:10
  Speaker A: Alfred Hitchcock would have made it.
• 13:11
  Speaker B: Cool. Good.
• 13:12
  Speaker A: No, so, like, I can pretend it was good, but the dramatic flair, I mean, it happened at night, but I mean, that's sort of. It wasn't it, was it? That. That was as scary as it got. I mean, it was dark, it was cold, it was nighttime, but otherwise, no. So like, here's the deal, like I said earlier, so it's December 16, 1773. We're in Boston harbor, middle of winter. So, like, the setting maybe was scary, but that was. Yeah, that's kind of it. And this group called the Sons of Liberty. You can pretty much remember the Sons of Liberty, I guess. What did they stand for? Liberty. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. I'm so hilarious.
• 13:41
  Speaker B: I get it.
• 13:42
  Speaker A: Fun fact. Do you know who they were? Led by. No, none other than our very own Samuel Adams.
• 13:47
  Speaker B: Oh, really?
• 13:48
  Speaker A: Samuel Adams.
• 13:49
  Speaker B: Sam Adams. Oh, no. I think I maybe knew that.
• 13:51
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 13:51
  Speaker B: Didn't we do something leading the charge?
• 13:53
  Speaker A: No, we didn't. We should do one on Sam. See, now, I'll put that in my memory bank, and we'll be ready to go. Okay, so check this out.
• 13:59
  Speaker B: Can we compare him to the Guinness family? The House of Guinness.
• 14:02
  Speaker A: Okay, that's what we should do. Like, compare and contrast, apparently.
• 14:05
  Speaker B: Well, I don't know, because, like, there's the House of Guinness, the miniseries or whatever, but I don't know. I would. I guess I would think of, like, Sam Adams as, like, the Brewer dynasty of the Americas.
• 14:15
  Speaker A: Okay, let's go.
• 14:16
  Speaker B: I don't know.
• 14:17
  Speaker A: We're on it.
• 14:17
  Speaker B: Interesting.
• 14:17
  Speaker A: Okay, I'm going down that rabbit hole. We're doing it. Okay. So they basically walk right up to the three ships. Okay. Like, sort of that simple. The names were the Dartmouth, the Eleanor, and the Beaver. You got. I mean, I would think, like, the Beaver. That's his name.
• 14:30
  Speaker B: Wait, that's actually the name of that.
• 14:31
  Speaker A: That is the best name.
• 14:31
  Speaker B: No way. It was, like, the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria.
• 14:34
  Speaker A: No, that was Christopher Columbus. That was. Oh, my God, you're so dumb. Anyway, it was, like, 300 years. Really? That was funny. You're, like, kind of being funny today. I kind of like this. I like this version.
• 14:44
  Speaker B: This is called Beaver. Like, actually.
• 14:46
  Speaker A: Well, the third ship was called the Beaver, right? That's the ship. I like if Samuel Adams was like, okay, folks, we got to separate into three groups. You're going on the Eleanor. I'd be like, I don't want to go on the Eleanor. I want to go on the Beaver. Anything named the Beaver, I want to be.
• 14:56
  Speaker B: It's just such an interesting name.
• 14:58
  Speaker A: I think it's excellent. Do you remember Leave it to Beaver? Yeah, the show. Leave It Anyway, the Beef. You got to love the beef.
• 15:03
  Speaker B: Okay, digress.
• 15:04
  Speaker A: Yes, totally.
• 15:05
  Speaker B: So they go out in the middle of the night. They board these ships, they take the tea. They're like, down with the Monarchy, almost. Oh, Hamilton. Let's go.
• 15:12
  Speaker A: Really close, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So there was, like, 100 or so of these guys, right? Samuel Adams and, like, all his buddies, Sons of Liberty. And they did disguise themselves, okay, so as Mohawk Indians. And they had weapons, so they had, like, axes and, like, machetes and hatchets and shit like that. But they really.
• 15:31
  Speaker B: Were they gonna blame it on the Indians?
• 15:33
  Speaker A: Right? I mean.
• 15:34
  Speaker B: Sorry, I didn't even Know that. That's an interesting fact.
• 15:36
  Speaker A: Yeah. So tell me about that.
• 15:37
  Speaker B: I never knew that.
• 15:38
  Speaker A: Should we.
• 15:38
  Speaker B: Okay, that's.
• 15:40
  Speaker A: Yeah, that's what they were doing.
• 15:41
  Speaker B: The Indians did it.
• 15:43
  Speaker A: Oh, my God. Seriously? Hashtag best episode. Indigenous peoples day. Check it out. So anyway, my point was they did sort of walk up onto the ship. Okay, Right. Like, everybody. I don't say knew they were coming, but sort of knew they were okay. The ship had been sitting there for 20 days. The ships were in the harbor already, and the tension was building. Everybody knew what was going on. It was, like, getting serious. So they sort of just came out of the night, walked up on the ships, and did their work. Okay, right. Like that. Simply. So it wasn't, like, with, like, a jump scare. It was like people like, holy crap, what's going on? They just sort of were like, yeah, we're taking over and we're doing this. Makes sense.
• 16:16
  Speaker B: I guess. So. I feel like that wouldn't happen in today's world. Like, I would feel like somebody would stop someone or, you know, blasted on social media somehow, but legitimately, like, nobody tried to stop them.
• 16:25
  Speaker A: Yeah, nobody really tried to stop them. So, like, think about it, right? These are cargo ships. These aren't like soldier ships.
• 16:30
  Speaker B: No, they're, like, big. They're cargo ships, fleet ships.
• 16:33
  Speaker A: Have you ever seen that movie with Tom Hanks in middle years? Captain Phillips. Oh, okay. Anyway, that's a great movie. We should do a whole episode on him. But anyway, my point was 10, 15 guys on each one of these ships watching a cargo. I mean, they're not soldiers. They're like merchants doing work. So they don't want to get killed. They're just gonna step aside and let, like, sons of Liberty stand in the.
• 16:51
  Speaker B: Way and be like, do their business. Excuse me.
• 16:53
  Speaker A: Right, Exactly.
• 16:54
  Speaker B: But then what about, like, the police or any sort of other authority?
• 16:58
  Speaker A: Police were probably paid off. Who are we kidding? Right? They probably knew who they were. Like, the police were American colonists. I don't know. I'm just making that up.
• 17:03
  Speaker B: I mean, was there even police back then? Because they weren't. Technically, no.
• 17:06
  Speaker A: But, like, here's the thing. Like, any authority that was there, they probably don't want to escalate anything. They probably don't want to, like, turn this into where people are dying. So they're being a lot more cautious and careful. And it's not like they knew, like, for them to muster enough police in the Boston harbor at that time to go against 100 people, probably impossible to do anyway back then, like, it's not like today where you're like, oh, quick, hurry up, everybody over here in 10 seconds. Like, it doesn't work the same way. So my guess is they just left well enough alone because people understood the intention of what they were trying to do. They knew they weren't going to hurt anybody. They knew they wanted to dump T. And so they let them do that because they didn't want it to escalate.
• 17:38
  Speaker B: Peaceful protest.
• 17:39
  Speaker A: Bingo. You get it. Okay.
• 17:41
  Speaker B: But nobody got arrested.
• 17:42
  Speaker A: Nobody got arrested. No. Because theoretically, think about it. Mohawk Indians, costumes. I'm being.
• 17:48
  Speaker B: Did people really think the Indians did it, though?
• 17:50
  Speaker A: No. So I'm being a little cheeky with that. But it was like. I don't know. How do I explain this? It was like just enough for them. Reasonable doubt. We don't know who it was. I can't actually finger somebody, can I? Fun factor. You remember this whole thing about the T and. Oh, destruction of property? Yeah. Check this one out. Okay, so I guess there was some guy that night. His name was George Hughes. Okay, like, so in the early 19th century, when he was interviewed, he said that one of the guys tried to actually steal some tea, not just throw it in the water, like, actually put it in his pocket. They made him put it back because they said, we're not thieves. We're not here to steal. We're here to make a point. So they were like gentlemen about had morals. Right, Exactly. So only dumping millions of dollars of tea. Yeah, only dumb, right, because that's how much it cost back then. Like a million bucks or something. More than a million dollars. Crazy. By the way, I have another fun fact about that later, but I'm going to say that it's kind of cool. Okay? And check this one out. When they're done, they cleaned up after themselves.
• 18:45
  Speaker B: Oh, they were gentlemen.
• 18:46
  Speaker A: Like, they swept up with brooms, like the deck, and put everything away where it was to make sure that everybody knew we're not here to do anything other than the thing we were supposed to do.
• 18:57
  Speaker B: Okay, so then what happened after that? What did Britain do? I mean, nobody was arrested, right? They didn't steal anything.
• 19:03
  Speaker A: I don't know. King George wrote a strongly worded letter that said, you'll be back. You will see. No wrong time. Okay.
• 19:10
  Speaker B: Close, close.
• 19:11
  Speaker A: We're close, but not there yet. Okay. So they panicked. That's what they did.
• 19:15
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 19:15
  Speaker A: Went into full panic mode. Kind of like too much. Like, they overreacted and it went badly and poorly. And here we go. They get Parliament together. They decide to pass A set of laws called the Coercive Acts. I do not remember this at all. That was something like. Yeah, new to me. I don't remember which. Artie, by the way, I think, is a terrible name if they're calling them the Coercive Act.
• 19:34
  Speaker B: Right. What did they coerce? Right.
• 19:35
  Speaker A: Here we are. Okay, Coercing us. The colonists, I guess.
• 19:38
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 19:39
  Speaker A: That basically shut down Boston harbor, like, completely. No ships in, no ships out. Send in the troops, take over the local government. Serious shit. Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker B: Did that work or is that what, like, launched us into forever by Britain?
• 19:54
  Speaker A: It sort of. It was the beginning of the end. So Britain thought it would work, but it didn't. It had sort of the opposite effect. They thought, we're gonna stamp down a rebellion in Boston Harbor. But realistically, remember at the time we had, I don't know, 13 colonies then. Right?
• 20:08
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker A: So for the first time, those colonies had a common enemy. This was like, one of the first.
• 20:14
  Speaker B: Times when they were a unification moment.
• 20:16
  Speaker A: It was a unification moment. Yes. To really start to bring folks together. Because up till that point, it was sort of sort of. They were all sort of doing their separate things, sort of realizing all independently, they didn't love Britain. But it was like, oh, this is okay. We like being over here. So this was the first moment of. No, we kind of all agree Britain needs to go fuck themselves. So that's where shit got sideways.
• 20:36
  Speaker B: Okay. So the American people kind of all came together. They were unified, but then we had the American Revolution, which is what all Hamilton is based off of. So what created that then? Motivation.
• 20:49
  Speaker A: I mean, that.
• 20:50
  Speaker B: That was before the American Revolution.
• 20:51
  Speaker A: So this was it. This was the beginning of the slippery slope. Like, you wouldn't say that this started the American Revolution. You would not say that. That would not be sort of sophisticated. But you would say that it was one of the initial sort of inklings or, like, issues that, like, came of it and got the whole ball rolling. Right.
• 21:09
  Speaker B: Okay. It's like first steps of unification to lead to.
• 21:13
  Speaker A: Yeah, here's the deal. Britain can't back down anymore. America can't back down, or the colonists can't back down anymore. You're sort of stuck now. We're half pregnant, both of us. Like, it's getting a lot more serious. The tension is rising. So a few months later, like in 1774, we convene the First Continental Congress, and they decide that from now on, they're gonna have one voice to Britain. And Britain can't, you know, quote unquote, fuck with us anymore. Right? And sort of the rest is history. So not the rest is history to fight, but sort of like we're not handling anything separately anymore. So go ahead, Britain, start coming at us. Okay, that makes sense.
• 21:48
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 21:49
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 21:49
  Speaker B: Okay, well, the American Revolution started about a year later or so.
• 21:52
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 21:53
  Speaker B: And we win. Yeah, but I mean, why does that matter, but.
• 21:58
  Speaker A: Cause we're awesome and we're.
• 21:59
  Speaker B: Well, sure, Yeah. I mean, in 250, this was the launch of our nation. I get it. But I'm sure there's more here. There's like a deeper meaning as to.
• 22:06
  Speaker A: There's a little bit of a deeper meaning here. I mean, there's not really. It's just because you were wearing a sweatshirt and I was excited to see you and something was historical and I wanted do an episode on it. But I'm gonna do that thing where I like Jedi mind tricked you and we're gonna psychology the shit out of this again. Okay, so we already said Boston Tea Party wasn't about taxes or tea. We agree with that now.
• 22:23
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 22:23
  Speaker A: Right. It was about sort of. You're not gonna let us do that again to us, like, it's the pattern thing that we were talking about. Right. So the. The critical component here that I think we need to learn is we don't know what we don't know. So we have to be able to recognize when we hit the point of no return. And the Boston Tea Party represents what you would call the point of no return, where I said nobody could back down anymore. Then we're gonna continue to escalate.
• 22:50
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 22:51
  Speaker A: Okay. You with me so far?
• 22:52
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 22:52
  Speaker A: Does that make sense? So when you think about that, this is the Jedi mind trick. This is the whole self awareness thing. This is the whole, like, why it's on sort of sophisticated. It happens all the time, every day in your life. It happens at work, it happens in your professional career, it happens at home, in your romantic relationships with your kids. There's always a moment of no return. I mean, not as big, I understand, as the American Revolution.
• 23:13
  Speaker B: Sure.
• 23:13
  Speaker A: But if we don't have enough self awareness to recognize those moments from someone else coming at us, then we're not learning at all and we're not being better humans and the whole thing and the whole premise of our show. So this, to me, represented that sort of moment where something is going to change forever.
• 23:30
  Speaker B: Right, but you're basically, I mean, just trying to say that this is a good way for us to figure out how to not go crazy and throw our tea overboard.
• 23:38
  Speaker A: Our proverbial quote Unquote. Tea.
• 23:39
  Speaker B: Yeah, like getting to that point, that tipping point.
• 23:41
  Speaker A: But not necessarily just our tipping point. Your tipping point. Like me and you. Like, you have a tipping point with me, and I have to do a good job at recognizing that because I don't want to get you to that point.
• 23:50
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 23:50
  Speaker A: And vice versa. Does this make sense? So I think about this a lot in business and at PAC Lab, where I spent my entire career and now I'm sort of pseudo retired and enjoying my. My life tremendously. But I would see it all the time where people would start disengaging, stop giving feedback, stop fighting for what they believe in. Like, they're not standing behind some new project or something. Like, they become voiceless.
• 24:11
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 24:12
  Speaker A: And when that starts to happen, it's, like, sneaky because it just goes away. So as a leader of a company, or like, managers, whatever, it's not like somebody outwardly says something to you that triggers that. It's the quietness that.
• 24:28
  Speaker B: But that's like the slippery slope that we deal with in everyday life.
• 24:30
  Speaker A: Correct. That's why I'm saying the Boston Tea Party is a value. So the Boston Tea Party is an example of a. You weren't listening to us, Britain, So we made a overt act.
• 24:39
  Speaker B: Right? That's a macro.
• 24:41
  Speaker A: Yes, it's an overt act. But they didn't listen earlier. I'm suggesting start earlier if you listen. Yes, absolutely. It happened with Gabby all the time. All the time. I could tell when, like, we stopped. Like, how do we fix this? Went into. Like, this was her code. Like, this was it. Fine, do whatever you want. Right. I'm sure you do it very, very fine. Do whatever you want. As soon as you find do whatever you want it, you're done. You are done with Trent. Now, my point is maybe that one time, you're done. But what if that started to happen once a week? What if that started happening once a day? Right. At some point, you're gonna look at him and go, trent, I'm not. I'm not your woman anymore.
• 25:14
  Speaker B: It's very interesting how you just pulled this macro thing into like a micro daily.
• 25:20
  Speaker A: This is what I'm trying to do.
• 25:21
  Speaker B: Awareness.
• 25:22
  Speaker A: This is. This is Right.
• 25:22
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker A: Okay. Do you remember a few weeks ago, I think I was bitching you off air about texting my friends.
• 25:27
  Speaker B: Okay. Yes, yes.
• 25:28
  Speaker A: And like, who's good at texting back? And what's going on with that? Same thing. You don't get responses from texts. Right? Okay. Maybe once or twice.
• 25:36
  Speaker B: They're fine. You're all you're busy, but at some.
• 25:38
  Speaker A: Point, you know, we've talked about circles and where you land in people's circles. I'm not landing in their circle the right way. So if I want to be in their circle, I have to go do it. Right. Does this make sense?
• 25:51
  Speaker B: Yeah. This is real deep, though.
• 25:52
  Speaker A: I know, but I'm trying. But see, here's the thing. Like, if we're going to sit here and talk on this show about history stuff, like, I want people to learn history. Okay. The Boston Tea Party. 17, 70. 73. Not Amanda's sweatshirt. 70, 76. Got it. You could look cool to your friends, but if we can identify, like, more stuff about how to behave or how to act or how to learn, then this gets more fun. Then this gets more fun.
• 26:09
  Speaker B: It's very fascinating how if you think of something that's so huge, like, that's what she said.
• 26:15
  Speaker A: That's what she said. Sorry. Mine is actually so huge, Amanda. It's considered resplendent. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. For those of you who can't see us on YouTube, Amanda Physically, physically just vomited, like, after that. Excellent joke. Okay, sorry. Continue your point.
• 26:36
  Speaker B: I think you can apply that concept or the psychology of that to, like, lots of things. Maybe not the moon landing, because it didn't happen, but.
• 26:43
  Speaker A: No, but the moon landing is about practice. But that's hysterical that you just brought that up.
• 26:46
  Speaker B: I was joking.
• 26:47
  Speaker A: But, yeah, that one's about practice.
• 26:49
  Speaker B: Oh, that's true. It's about development continuing. Yeah.
• 26:53
  Speaker A: I'm trying harder to figure out how to, like, apply it to your plot. Right. Because otherwise, then what are we doing? We're just memorizing facts. I don't want to memorize facts. I want to memorize facts and learn some cool shit.
• 27:02
  Speaker B: Okay, well, speaking of facts.
• 27:03
  Speaker A: What?
• 27:04
  Speaker B: You got some fun facts?
• 27:05
  Speaker A: I do. Oh, let's go. I have fun facts, but I have so much more to talk about with this episode. You do now I'm boring myself to death, actually. So I think we can talk about it.
• 27:12
  Speaker B: I thought it was a good end of, like, how to micro it versus, you know, macro vision.
• 27:17
  Speaker A: That was good. Jedi mind trick.
• 27:18
  Speaker B: Okay. I like that.
• 27:19
  Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Not gonna lie on this one. Like, this is kind of hard. I'm not quite sure a fun fact.
• 27:23
  Speaker B: Would be how much tea they threw over, because I don't actually know that.
• 27:26
  Speaker A: Pounds of tea. I don't. I just know 342 cases of tea. I did not look that up. Can you look that up? And we're gonna Throw that in as a fun fact.
• 27:33
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 27:33
  Speaker A: Okay, okay. So number one, so I know we talked before, like, there wasn't any, like, big, super thought out plan about this whole thing, but it actually did sort of develop one day before. So I guess there was this massive town hall meeting in a place called the Old South Meeting House, where apparently a few thousand people packed in and were basically waiting to see if the governor would let the ships leave without unloading the tea. And when they found out, he said, no, it had to be unloaded. Somebody yelled, this meeting can do nothing more to save our country. And that's when a bunch of dudes walked out and developed the plan. Those hundred people. Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:08
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 28:09
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So anyway, did you look it up?
• 28:11
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker A: What do you got?
• 28:12
  Speaker B: £92,000.
• 28:14
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker B: That's a lot.
• 28:15
  Speaker A: That's a lot of tea. Okay, now do me a favor. Do the thing where we find out, like, how much money that was actually worth. Like, I know it was millions of today's dollars, but I would sort of get an idea.
• 28:22
  Speaker B: Over $1.7 million.
• 28:25
  Speaker A: Holy G of tea.
• 28:27
  Speaker B: That's a lot of tea.
• 28:28
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, they were stupid anyway because they had too much tea anyway.
• 28:31
  Speaker B: Well, okay.
• 28:31
  Speaker A: All right. So number two. So apparently, I guess, the timing of this mattered a lot. So the Sons of Liberty waited until the last possible legal moment before the tea had to be unloaded and then, by default, be taxed. So I didn't know any of this, and I saved this for my fun fact, which actually, like, explains why that specific night mattered so much. So under British law, once the ship sat in port for 20 days, the tea legally had to be unloaded, and the tax was required to be paid. And if that didn't happen, the British officials were allowed to do it themselves. So the British officials would have come on board, taken it off, and taken it off and taxed it anyway. So that's why they waited till that last night to see if it was gonna resolve and then threw the whole thing overboard. Right.
• 29:15
  Speaker B: So they tried.
• 29:15
  Speaker A: Yeah. So there was a lot more to this story that I was sort of.
• 29:17
  Speaker B: They tried a negotiation.
• 29:19
  Speaker A: Yes, exactly. They were doing a secret, quiet negotiation. Bingo. That answers a lot. Number three. Okay, I love this one. The tea wasn't even from India. Did you know that? Even. It was like, the East India Tea Company, Right?
• 29:30
  Speaker B: It was black tea.
• 29:30
  Speaker A: Or England.
• 29:32
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Where did it come from?
• 29:33
  Speaker A: I know, right? Contrary to what a lot of people think, the tea was Chinese. Chinese tea, yes. Bohee.
• 29:41
  Speaker B: Did it get there on the silk Road, probably. Sorry, just curious.
• 29:45
  Speaker A: No, I think you're probably right. Just so many years before that. That's where it all started, I guess. Bohe tea, it was being imported by the East India Company, so like, everybody thought it was like British tea or India tea. It wasn't. It was just. It was Chinese tea. Yeah, I'm not shitting on Chinese tea. I'm just saying, like, you know, what are you going to do? Okay, number four. Remember how I said they made that one guy give back the tea so they wouldn't be considered thieves? Like the George Hughes interview that he was talking about earlier? Yeah. Okay, so check this one out. This was the fun fact I wanted to get to. I guess during the whole process, another one of the Sons of Liberty broke a lock like a padlock right on one of the ships somewhere. He was opening from the crates and throwing shit overboard. So I guess the next day he hired somebody to go back and pay the ship's captain for the broken lock so no one could claim they destroyed any property other than the tea.
• 30:30
  Speaker B: Huh.
• 30:31
  Speaker A: That's my whole point at the beginning when you were like, oh, they. So they were like being super careful about sweeping up and cleaning up and like, we're not thieves and sorry we broke this. Here's $8 for your stupid lock. Because all they wanted to make sure of is like, the tea was going overbo.
• 30:43
  Speaker B: And then.
• 30:44
  Speaker A: That makes a lot of sense. Why? There was no violence. No, like they waited the 20 days. There was no. Like, all very planned out. Yes, that makes a lot of sense now. Right, right, right.
• 30:52
  Speaker B: It wasn't the Silk Road, by the way.
• 30:53
  Speaker A: Well, of course it wasn't, because the Silk Road was way earlier.
• 30:55
  Speaker B: No, it's a maritime route.
• 30:57
  Speaker A: Oh, darn. But. But whatever. That's how. That's what started the whole thing. The Silk Road.
• 31:01
  Speaker B: I know it is. It's true.
• 31:02
  Speaker A: It's true.
• 31:02
  Speaker B: It's true.
• 31:02
  Speaker A: All right, last one. Finally. Sarah Bradley Fulton. Okay. Apparently the best supporting actress in this whole thing, sometimes called the mother of the Boston Tea Party ghost, Sarah Bradley.
• 31:13
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 31:14
  Speaker A: Apparently her and her sister in law are the ones credited with disguising all the Sons of Liberty as the Mohawk Indians and then later, after it was over, helped transform them back into regular colonists. So I guess, like, she was the costume designer. Yeah, I guess, like not best actress, but best costume designer.
• 31:32
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 31:33
  Speaker A: Look at that. I think that's excellent. Go. Sarah Bradley Fulton. Fun facts out.
• 31:37
  Speaker B: Oh. So I've officially gone from oh, yeah, Boston Tea Party. I'm gonna wear my Cute little sweatshirt to like, wow. That was actually a very calculated moment that changed everything.
• 31:48
  Speaker A: I have a question.
• 31:48
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 31:49
  Speaker A: Do you believe that the Boston Tea Party actually happened?
• 31:53
  Speaker B: I mean, yes.
• 31:55
  Speaker A: Question mark. Or like, yes, I'm just wondering where you are in conspiracy theories.
• 31:58
  Speaker B: No, I think it happened.
• 31:59
  Speaker A: Okay. You do believe this?
• 32:00
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker A: Can I ask you a question? Why sometimes do you believe some things don't happen, but at this one, it's so easy for you to believe.
• 32:07
  Speaker B: It kind of makes sense.
• 32:08
  Speaker A: But the moon landing doesn't.
• 32:09
  Speaker B: I just don't understand why we haven't gone back to the moon since then. That's my issue.
• 32:13
  Speaker A: Why haven't we thrown more tea overboard?
• 32:15
  Speaker B: I already. I started this episode saying I feel like we should throw more tea. We should actually throw lots of things.
• 32:19
  Speaker A: We have.
• 32:20
  Speaker B: I have a huge issue with taxation.
• 32:21
  Speaker A: But, I mean, think about, like, we have done a lot of that shit. Like, we've had a lot of movements. Montgomery Bus Boycott. We've had.
• 32:26
  Speaker B: Sure.
• 32:27
  Speaker A: I don't know. Hashtag MeToo. Right. Black lives Matter. I mean, like, those are recent ones. But you Occupy Wall Street. We already talked, like, there's probably thousands of these things.
• 32:35
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 32:35
  Speaker A: That we're throwing tea overboard. Okay, well, we'll.
• 32:38
  Speaker B: Those are all for very specific things. It's not about taxation.
• 32:41
  Speaker A: This wasn't about taxation either.
• 32:42
  Speaker B: I know, I know.
• 32:43
  Speaker A: This was just about, like, sticking it to the. You know. Have you seen. Have you seen School of Rock? I honestly, I think I'm doing this podcast with the wrong co host.
• 32:52
  Speaker B: Yeah, you.
• 32:53
  Speaker A: I just throw out, like, School of Rock. He's trying. He's trying to get all these kids into, like, a band to perform. Somebody's not allowed. Have you seen this? Or no, maybe you don't.
• 33:01
  Speaker B: I've seen the Broadway production.
• 33:03
  Speaker A: Okay. So they pretend they're sick, and, you know, they're like, oh, what's wrong with those kids? And he's like, they have something called Stick it to the man disease, and they, like, buy it and they get to go in and perform. It's totally cute. Okay, sorry, you were saying? I think you were trying to wrap this damn episode up. I don't even know what you're trying to say.
• 33:18
  Speaker B: I mean, I guess so. Yes. But it was a good one. Like, it had a lot of. Again, it's taking our moments that we know in history and going, huh. And looking at it through a different lens.
• 33:29
  Speaker A: I like that. That's what we're here for.
• 33:31
  Speaker B: Okay. So if people want to do their research, go a little deeper. What should they be doing?
• 33:35
  Speaker A: Just start drinking tea. That's all you need to drink all sorts of tea.
• 33:38
  Speaker B: I love tea.
• 33:39
  Speaker A: Bohe tea from China. That's what you need to drink. I mean, if you want to go big, go to Boston, right?
• 33:43
  Speaker B: Yeah, it was really cool. It was really cool.
• 33:45
  Speaker A: Sweatshirt. They have a museum. Do you go to the museum? The Boston Tea Party. Ships and museum. Apparently you can go there. You could see the whole thing. They still have the ships. You could literally walk through the story. You didn't do that part.
• 33:57
  Speaker B: It was raining, so they canceled it.
• 33:59
  Speaker A: Okay. Anyway, if I'm going to Boston, I'm doing that shit because I'm a history buff. That'd be crazy.
• 34:02
  Speaker B: It is pretty crazy when you think about it. Like, when you're there and you're walking through and you're like, I am walking in the footsteps of history.
• 34:08
  Speaker A: Thank you.
• 34:08
  Speaker B: Crazy. It's crazy. Sorry.
• 34:09
  Speaker A: Continue. I love that. You just made my heart full. That was awesome. Okay. If you don't want to travel, read a book called the Boston Tea Party by Benjamin L. Karp. It'll give you way more nerdy details than I could ever come up with in a million years. And if you don't want to read, watch the documentary American Revolution. The Boston Tea Party with historian Dan Snow. It's only 45 minutes and totally easy to follow. You'll pick up a ton of history. Super cool. And if you don't want to do any of that, then just remember these details to seem sort of sophisticated when you're hanging out with your friends. Number one. The Boston Tea Party took place on December 16, 1773, when a group of roughly 100American colonists who called themselves the Sons of Liberty, led by Sam Adams. Sam Adams boarded three ships in Boston harbor and deliberately destroyed 342 chests of British East India Company tea to protest Parliament's right to tax and control the colonies without their consent. Whew.
• 35:01
  Speaker B: That was a mouthful.
• 35:01
  Speaker A: It was. Number two, the Boston Tea Party was never about taxes or tea. It was about legitimacy. The tea would have actually turned out cheaper. The protest was about refusing to quietly accept a system where Britain could make the rules, bypass our voices and expect compliance without consent. There we go. That's where you get to Hamilton. Number three, it was a deadline driven, intentional act, not a drunk riot like everybody thinks. The Sons of Liberty waited until the last legal moment before the tea would be seized and taxed. Anyway, if they acted earlier or later, the protest wouldn't have meant anything.
• 35:33
  Speaker B: Strategic.
• 35:34
  Speaker A: Very strategery. Very strategy. Number four, the discipline is what made it powerful. No looting, no violence, no damage beyond the tee. They even paid for a broken padlock afterwards. That restraint made it impossible to dismiss as chaos. And finally, the Boston Tea Party didn't start the American Revolution, but it did make backing down impossible. It triggered Britain's overreaction, which then unified the colonies and ultimately turned that protest into a point of no return.
• 36:03
  Speaker B: All right, well, there you have it, dear listeners, a deep dive into the Boston Tea Party. The moment America stopped politely complaining and realized, oh, this is actually happening. If we did our job right today, you're walking away a little more sophisticated, a little more aware of how quickly patience can turn into action, and maybe ready to casually drop the fact that the tea was cheaper. And that's why it matters. And as always, if you liked this episode, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with that one friend who still thinks the Boston Tea Party was just a bunch of drunk guys in costumes pulling off a colonial prank. Until next time, stay curious, stay circumspect, and remember, being sophisticated isn't about memorizing dates. It's about recognizing the moment when quiet cooperation breaks and what you do about it next.