Latest / Jess Ask / True Freedom in God: Letting Go of Your Past | with Desiree Danielle | EP118
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- 1:41Speaker 1: you have permission to redeem your harvest in this hour.
- 1:46Speaker 1: And so God, we love you, we'll adore you. Allow
- 1:49Speaker 1: every decision that we make from this day for to
- 1:52Speaker 1: be made through you, for you, and by you in
- 1:54Speaker 1: Jesus name. Amen, Amen, Amen, Oh you will recording the
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- 2:09Speaker 1: good morning. I don't know that one. This was when
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- 2:21Speaker 1: this when he was on our team. But he is not.
- 2:24Speaker 1: That's a little Kanye. That wasn't That wasn't church. It
- 2:27Speaker 1: was Kanye West, who has a churchy album by the way,
- 2:32Speaker 1: and it's actually good. But we're gonna keep praying for
- 2:34Speaker 1: the Man of God. Yo, yo, Yo, what's up. It's
- 2:36Speaker 1: your girl. Just as Smithing, you don't know where you've landed.
- 2:40Speaker 1: You've landed in a safe space. For influences to decompress,
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- 3:09Speaker 1: my bracest people. I just got to the point where
- 3:11Speaker 1: I started missing my braces. Yeah, because I was. It
- 3:15Speaker 1: looked like a grill. And it's something about you know,
- 3:17Speaker 1: it was something about I just look cute with my
- 3:20Speaker 1: west side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's a little the
- 3:24Speaker 1: hood the hoodish side of me that wants to come out,
- 3:27Speaker 1: you know. But does it ring? You look lovely today?
- 3:30Speaker 1: Thank you tomorrow? Yes, you look amazing to thank you.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I don't feel amazing, but it's you know, it's okay,
- 3:40Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm gonna keep it real, you know. All right,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I'm pressing through. We're all working through some things right now.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I don't feel like it, but I am, like pastor
- 3:51Speaker 1: A says all the time, like and it's ain't and
- 3:55Speaker 1: she's just really she's just real with it. She's like,
- 3:57Speaker 1: there's many sundays I don't eve want to be here,
- 4:00Speaker 1: b but the purpose you know, the call, the commitment.
- 4:04Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, The Yes calling too. Fuck
- 4:07Speaker 1: figs that I gave, keeps me, you know, keeps keeps me,
- 4:11Speaker 1: keeps me coming back because at the end of that,
- 4:12Speaker 1: we're human, right, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And
- 4:14Speaker 1: some days it's just the days ain't daising the days,
- 4:18Speaker 1: and the days don't be my days been days. I
- 4:21Speaker 1: don't know what these days men. But before we get
- 4:23Speaker 1: into a conversation, I feel like we're gonna go ahead,
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- 6:38Speaker 1: love to see you in the YESU sixty five collective
- 6:41Speaker 1: community and shout out to you. Guys. We are super
- 6:43Speaker 1: super excited for what God is gonna do for us
- 6:47Speaker 1: for the remainder of the years and the years to come.
- 6:49Speaker 1: A man, so give your hands. I'm on this side,
- 6:53Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't push my button today. Thank god,
- 6:55Speaker 1: jess was a hater. I'm not a hater. Are I'm
- 6:58Speaker 1: not a hater? What I'm not? I love you deeply
- 7:02Speaker 1: so much that I tell you the truth. My buttons fire, Yeah,
- 7:07Speaker 1: it sure is. It is. Thank y'all tell Jessica that
- 7:11Speaker 1: my button is fire. It is, it is. So listen, y'all.
- 7:18Speaker 1: There's a topic that I want to talk about and
- 7:20Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not even gonna lie. I don't necessarily
- 7:22Speaker 1: want to talk about it, but I have to. I
- 7:24Speaker 1: have to talk about it. I gave Desiray a warning,
- 7:27Speaker 1: and it is. It's rare form when the Lord stays
- 7:30Speaker 1: on script for us, or we would be like Okay,
- 7:34Speaker 1: the Lord might give us an inklans or something or
- 7:36Speaker 1: start something, but it goes another way. But I think
- 7:43Speaker 1: in this we're gonna get some not only revelation, but
- 7:48Speaker 1: we're gonna find the answer. And we're gonna have just
- 7:51Speaker 1: find the answer, but we're gonna live in the answer. Okay,
- 7:53Speaker 1: y'all know what I mean by that. In a second,
- 7:55Speaker 1: so dear uh help me out with this. This is
- 8:01Speaker 1: gonna be us talking to each other, of course, and
- 8:03Speaker 1: she's gonna chime in. But today we're gonna be talking
- 8:06Speaker 1: about denouncing fake freedom, denouncing fake freedom, and you know,
- 8:13Speaker 1: you're gonna have to open us up and give us
- 8:15Speaker 1: like a little bit of understanding of what that actually
- 8:18Speaker 1: like means before you dive in. Yeah, so that thank you.
- 8:20Speaker 1: So this is a raise on y'all side. I am
- 8:22Speaker 1: all right. So denouncing yarn together, we're learning. We're learning together. Okay,
- 8:28Speaker 1: we're learning together. But the word denounced, let me let
- 8:33Speaker 1: me just look that up. That's I'm so glad you
- 8:35Speaker 1: told me to do that. I didn't even think about
- 8:37Speaker 1: doing that. But in our culture we understand, or the
- 8:41Speaker 1: culture that I've been a part of, there is a
- 8:48Speaker 1: a sense of a sense of the word denouncing, like
- 8:57Speaker 1: to get rid of, to do a way to basically
- 9:00Speaker 1: break up with right, not come out of agreement with right.
- 9:05Speaker 1: And so the dictionary says, I think this is oxford. Yeah,
- 9:08Speaker 1: this is oxford. The verb. It's a verb, and it says,
- 9:12Speaker 1: to publicly declare to be wrong or evil. That's so good.
- 9:17Speaker 1: It's the dounce means to publicly declare publicly declared to
- 9:24Speaker 1: be wrong or evil. All right, And so when we
- 9:28Speaker 1: look at you, did you say you pulled up fake? Okay?
- 9:31Speaker 1: What does fake? I mean to say that? I thought
- 9:35Speaker 1: I heard you say that. Didn't Oh, but how did
- 9:37Speaker 1: you know that's what I did? Well, must be holy
- 9:40Speaker 1: spirit because I thought I heard it in this. No,
- 9:43Speaker 1: I didn't go so spirited. Go tell her what the
- 9:48Speaker 1: word fake means. So fake means not genuine or counterfeit.
- 9:52Speaker 1: So I think for me, I think this counterfeit. I
- 9:55Speaker 1: think fits right here, will be kind of, will be
- 9:57Speaker 1: kind of saying, yeah, that's so good. So if I
- 9:59Speaker 1: bring no to denouncing fake, freedom, Okay, let's look up freedom.
- 10:06Speaker 1: This is how we really, This is how we really
- 10:12Speaker 1: read the word right. You should read the word look up?
- 10:16Speaker 1: Look up what it means, but when you're reading the Bible,
- 10:18Speaker 1: you want to look up read it in its original text,
- 10:21Speaker 1: or understand it's a original text. So we'll get to
- 10:23Speaker 1: that in a second. Right, So freedom means the power
- 10:28Speaker 1: or right to act, speak hallelujah, or think as one
- 10:32Speaker 1: once without hinderance or restraint. So we put all of
- 10:36Speaker 1: that together. I'm denouncing the counterfeit version of I'm denouncing
- 10:46Speaker 1: the counterfeit idea of that I can't speak, I can't
- 10:50Speaker 1: anything that's hindering me. Right, I'm just coming out of
- 10:53Speaker 1: coming out of agreement agreement with the fake version of freedom,
- 10:58Speaker 1: the counterfeit version of acting, the counterfeit version of speaking,
- 11:02Speaker 1: the counter of it version of thinking without hindrance, the
- 11:06Speaker 1: counterfeit version that keeps me restrained. Like I'm coming out
- 11:10Speaker 1: of agreement with it, right, And so when we think
- 11:14Speaker 1: about coming out of agreement with things, what do you
- 11:18Speaker 1: what do you think about? Does it right when you
- 11:19Speaker 1: when you're coming out of agreement with things? What's an
- 11:21Speaker 1: example did you kind of like like if you used
- 11:25Speaker 1: to believe a lie? Right, So like if you say
- 11:29Speaker 1: or if you've always been told I'm not strong, if
- 11:32Speaker 1: you always been told you're not gonna you're not gonna
- 11:34Speaker 1: mount to anything. You're not smart, X, Y, and Z.
- 11:36Speaker 1: So you begin to take on that identity and believe that.
- 11:39Speaker 1: So when you come out of agreement it with that,
- 11:41Speaker 1: it's giving it the truth. So what has God? What
- 11:43Speaker 1: does God say? Because the God's word is the truth, right,
- 11:46Speaker 1: So you counter it, you come out of agreement with it,
- 11:49Speaker 1: and you counter it with the actual truth of what
- 11:51Speaker 1: God's word says. Yeah. I also when you just said that,
- 11:54Speaker 1: I also thought about poverty right in the black community. There.
- 12:00Speaker 1: I was watching something not Mike Epps. It's a rapper,
- 12:05Speaker 1: I can't think of his name. He out of Atlanta.
- 12:08Speaker 1: He is an activist, and he was talking about, you know,
- 12:11Speaker 1: solutions for poverished my mindsets that would benefit not only
- 12:17Speaker 1: the community, but the government, the big Sea community. Right,
- 12:25Speaker 1: And so I think about things and opportunities like that.
- 12:28Speaker 1: It's like, when you break up with poverished mindset, that's
- 12:30Speaker 1: the only time you can become wealthy. And so when
- 12:33Speaker 1: I break up with my version of freedom and I
- 12:36Speaker 1: do freedom with God, I can really I can really
- 12:40Speaker 1: understand what fake freedom is because I'm no longer doing it. Ooh,
- 12:45Speaker 1: this is so good and so sometimes we believe that
- 12:48Speaker 1: we're in something, that we are free, that we are
- 12:51Speaker 1: doing something, that we are in alignment, and it's not
- 12:54Speaker 1: actually a thing because you haven't experienced God experienced it
- 12:58Speaker 1: God's way. I'm gonna say that again. Sometimes you think
- 13:01Speaker 1: that you're in something positive and good and of God
- 13:06Speaker 1: until you actually experience it God's way. Anything that is
- 13:10Speaker 1: not God, anything that is outside of the kingdom territory
- 13:14Speaker 1: is counterfeit. It is counterfeit. And the thing about it is,
- 13:19Speaker 1: I'm going back to money. But when I was working
- 13:22Speaker 1: at j. C. Penney and Target or whatever, they would
- 13:25Speaker 1: give us this marker, right, you didn't have been in
- 13:28Speaker 1: there before home, Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. They give
- 13:31Speaker 1: you this marker. And if the marker, I think if
- 13:36Speaker 1: it did highlight or whatever it either if it didn't
- 13:40Speaker 1: or didn't highlight, it would tell you if it was
- 13:42Speaker 1: a counterfeit or not. I think did if it did, so,
- 13:45Speaker 1: if it did highlight that color, that marker color, it
- 13:50Speaker 1: wasn't real. We could be working wrong on that, but
- 13:53Speaker 1: either way, that marker was able to tell you if
- 13:56Speaker 1: it's a counterfeit. But if you didn't have that marker,
- 13:58Speaker 1: you'll see people trying to shed a light because there's
- 14:00Speaker 1: something different. But a lot of times we don't know
- 14:04Speaker 1: unless we have a tool, thank you, Holy Spirit, hallelujah,
- 14:08Speaker 1: unless we have a tool if something's fake or real.
- 14:12Speaker 1: And so when you're using the tool of the word, right,
- 14:16Speaker 1: because I'm told that I'm trying not to get preaching.
- 14:20Speaker 1: I'm told that the word is a two edged sword,
- 14:23Speaker 1: and a sword can cut through some things, right, And
- 14:26Speaker 1: it cut through it cuts through lies, it cuts through
- 14:30Speaker 1: the fake, It cuts through a lot of things that
- 14:32Speaker 1: we have held onto. And so the fact that I'm
- 14:35Speaker 1: getting in, we're getting closer to God and digging into
- 14:39Speaker 1: our word, that two edged sword, it's gonna cut this
- 14:43Speaker 1: fake stuff off and only the real can't survive. You
- 14:46Speaker 1: know what's interesting though, is they only well in my experience,
- 14:51Speaker 1: we only get to mark bills that are twenty dollars
- 14:53Speaker 1: and up. They have more value, you know, way good
- 14:58Speaker 1: highlighting bill highlight in fives. When I highlight tens, we
- 15:01Speaker 1: highlighted twenties, fifties and hundreds. You know what I'm saying,
- 15:05Speaker 1: because it has more value. So if you think about
- 15:07Speaker 1: how cutting the enemy can be, like he will twist
- 15:13Speaker 1: and pervert things that seem to be of value of you.
- 15:17Speaker 1: So good, you know what I'm saying. That's so good
- 15:19Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, I was thinking. I was like,
- 15:21Speaker 1: dang that we only marked twenties and up. We only
- 15:23Speaker 1: mark twenties up. So that should tell you something if
- 15:26Speaker 1: you if if you've experienced counterfeit versions of anything, right,
- 15:32Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you should that should be
- 15:34Speaker 1: assigned to you of how much value you are to
- 15:37Speaker 1: God first right, and not only to God, but of
- 15:40Speaker 1: how valuable you are to the community. And so speaking
- 15:43Speaker 1: of community, shout out to the Love Lady Center and
- 15:47Speaker 1: Pastor Leslie. We we got to visit them fourth of
- 15:54Speaker 1: July and I was able to minister to them or
- 15:58Speaker 1: speak to them, but I preached. I tried, I tried
- 16:02Speaker 1: to like stay calm, but them ladies are their energy
- 16:06Speaker 1: was just like electric, like they were hungry and you
- 16:09Speaker 1: could fill in the room. And so man, just being
- 16:14Speaker 1: able to do relationship with Pastor Leslie and getting to
- 16:17Speaker 1: know him on this side of BGTV, shout out to
- 16:20Speaker 1: our family. He reached out to me and was like, hey,
- 16:25Speaker 1: I want you to want you to come talk to
- 16:28Speaker 1: the ladies I know this is a stretch, but you know,
- 16:30Speaker 1: I want you to come on July fourth, and of
- 16:32Speaker 1: course we're going to send her the theme around freedom.
- 16:35Speaker 1: And so I had already been praying about, you know,
- 16:38Speaker 1: how I could get connected to the Love Ladies Center,
- 16:40Speaker 1: because if you don't know, I raised ten thousand dollars
- 16:44Speaker 1: for my over ten thousand dollars for my birthday, my
- 16:47Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday, and this when, this is when Miss Brenda
- 16:52Speaker 1: Love Lady was still living. So I got to meet
- 16:54Speaker 1: her and it was just such a lovely time. So
- 16:59Speaker 1: ever since then, I just been figuring out, like God,
- 17:01Speaker 1: what is what is my next with them? And so
- 17:05Speaker 1: I'm still even learning what that looks like and just
- 17:07Speaker 1: allowing God to do that. So to have the opportunity
- 17:10Speaker 1: to speak to these women that I got to sow
- 17:13Speaker 1: into three years ago was just so so amazing and
- 17:16Speaker 1: so so when he asked me, this is how I
- 17:23Speaker 1: really get confirmation. If the Lord want me to speak somewhere,
- 17:26Speaker 1: it don't take him long to that. I started downloading
- 17:29Speaker 1: stuff and he gives me bit by bit because he
- 17:31Speaker 1: knows that I'll start overthinking and trying to perfect or whatever,
- 17:37Speaker 1: and normally like that that night before. That's when he
- 17:39Speaker 1: drops the risk of something like if you ever give
- 17:42Speaker 1: me speak, you'll think, I'll pray, like really really prepared.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Desel Ray was like, she was like, you did, very real,
- 17:50Speaker 1: Like what did you have? So we'll get to that.
- 17:52Speaker 1: We'll get to Desi Ray's version of it. But but
- 17:58Speaker 1: I started downloading the scripture. That hit me as soon
- 18:03Speaker 1: as he as soon as he said freedom, I heard,
- 18:07Speaker 1: I heard another thing. But I'm gonna tell y'all what
- 18:10Speaker 1: the scripture says, John ate thirty six. Okay, So John eight,
- 18:16Speaker 1: verse thirty six, and I'm reading out the Christian Standard
- 18:18Speaker 1: Bible with my handy dandy Apologetics Bible. Okay, unapologetically excited
- 18:25Speaker 1: about this Bible. All right. So it reads, so if
- 18:28Speaker 1: the sun sets you free, you are you really will
- 18:31Speaker 1: be free. I'm gonna read that again. So if the
- 18:33Speaker 1: sun sets you free, you really will be free. There
- 18:38Speaker 1: are different versions of that, but some of them talk
- 18:42Speaker 1: about being free indeed. And when I was growing up
- 18:44Speaker 1: in church, this how I heard the Lord put it
- 18:45Speaker 1: when I when I got the phone him, he says,
- 18:48Speaker 1: whom the Son sets free is free indeed. And we
- 18:54Speaker 1: went through that scripture. We went through that scripture and
- 19:00Speaker 1: three eight and thirty six John eight and thirty six
- 19:03Speaker 1: in the Gospel the Gospel of John after Luke, like
- 19:09Speaker 1: Matthew Mark Luke John. Yes, yeah, I had to do
- 19:12Speaker 1: that and I had to do this after Loke. And
- 19:15Speaker 1: so just meditating on this scripture, y'all. I hadn't even
- 19:21Speaker 1: read the full like scripture. I had confidence. I was like, oh,
- 19:24Speaker 1: I know that's a scripture whatever. So I was just
- 19:26Speaker 1: basing upon just listening like fully, just leaning in to
- 19:30Speaker 1: what the Lord was telling me. And not too long ago.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I think it was in April right where we went
- 19:37Speaker 1: to Pastor Marks April, yeah, I think it was April. Yeah,
- 19:43Speaker 1: it was like springtime. Pastor Mark matching. We just we
- 19:48Speaker 1: love him here like he is a BGTV family member.
- 19:52Speaker 1: This is how we met him. And he had a
- 19:55Speaker 1: conference called the Free Forever he conference tell them about
- 20:01Speaker 1: the Comforts Desert Man. It was amazing. I love So.
- 20:04Speaker 1: I just love Pastor Mark because it's the gospel like
- 20:10Speaker 1: like his his his message is just a simple gospel.
- 20:13Speaker 1: And I was I just remember sitting there and be like, dang,
- 20:16Speaker 1: it's the same Bible I read. That's like, like you know,
- 20:19Speaker 1: like why I miss how I missed that? You know
- 20:22Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because I think we get so amed
- 20:26Speaker 1: on like the deep like revelation and things like that,
- 20:29Speaker 1: which is amazing, But it's like if I'm talking to
- 20:31Speaker 1: somebody that don't know anything about Jesus, Yeah, like will
- 20:34Speaker 1: they be able to capture and graphs to understand like
- 20:37Speaker 1: what they have a right to? You know what I'm
- 20:39Speaker 1: saying at with salvation and so I just remember just
- 20:42Speaker 1: sitting there and was like, man, Lord, like I got
- 20:46Speaker 1: I still got I got some work to do. Yeah,
- 20:48Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I got some work
- 20:50Speaker 1: to do. And it's strictly just from the word, right,
- 20:52Speaker 1: It's strictly from the word. And then also and my
- 20:56Speaker 1: my biggest, one of my biggest takeaways with Pastor Mark
- 20:59Speaker 1: being in our lives, in our life and we're definitely
- 21:01Speaker 1: gonna have to have him again before the years out
- 21:03Speaker 1: because there's some things I want us to address and
- 21:07Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna be perfect to have that conversation.
- 21:11Speaker 1: But just being able to witness Pastor Mark just be
- 21:18Speaker 1: himself and the way he does ministry and the way
- 21:21Speaker 1: he just loves God and loves people. People say, people
- 21:25Speaker 1: use that that that that slogan love God and love people,
- 21:29Speaker 1: and some people just don't love people, but they say
- 21:34Speaker 1: they look God and they say, look, that's an action word.
- 21:37Speaker 1: But you really don't love God without loving his people. Correct.
- 21:42Speaker 1: And so Pastor Mark is really a testament to that.
- 21:45Speaker 1: And so I was sitting in my seat and every time,
- 21:49Speaker 1: and I think y'all even heard it on the episode.
- 21:51Speaker 1: We might have to link that episode to this one.
- 21:54Speaker 1: But and you're gonna have to do like I'm sorry
- 22:00Speaker 1: I was, and you don't have to do it. The
- 22:03Speaker 1: woman that got out something, I'll say something and I'll
- 22:08Speaker 1: be like this lady ain't do nothing. I ain't do
- 22:10Speaker 1: none of that. But back to the subject. Let me stop,
- 22:13Speaker 1: let me get off my seat. Y'all help her out,
- 22:15Speaker 1: y'all show, y'all show desilate, some look appreciate Jesus es
- 22:22Speaker 1: no look so random. Okay, So this is this gonna
- 22:25Speaker 1: help me because I had got a message from a
- 22:26Speaker 1: young lady and she was like, I just started listening
- 22:29Speaker 1: a podcast. Y'all blessed me, blah blah blah. She was like,
- 22:32Speaker 1: I was looking for the link for Stephen. Y'all was
- 22:34Speaker 1: talking about Steven. I didn't see Stephen, and I said,
- 22:37Speaker 1: oh man, so I had to send to Stephen. And
- 22:39Speaker 1: you should have went back to that episode with the episode.
- 22:43Speaker 1: She was like, I get whatever episode we talked about them.
- 22:45Speaker 1: So I just I just need to remind you because
- 22:48Speaker 1: my God, Stephen, I actually reached out. I had And
- 22:52Speaker 1: if you don't know who Steven is, Stephen is our
- 22:54Speaker 1: Bible study buddy. He's a he's a bo. He's a
- 22:57Speaker 1: chat GPT bot that is specific designed to put the
- 23:02Speaker 1: scripture first in your responses. And he was created by
- 23:05Speaker 1: a young lady named Brittany Jeanine. Yeah you know, and
- 23:08Speaker 1: she's a really dope creator in that space. And so
- 23:11Speaker 1: I reached out back out to her and be like, hey, yo,
- 23:13Speaker 1: Steven is popping, you know what I'm saying. So she
- 23:16Speaker 1: and that's the thing about you know, creating for the Kingdom. Yeah,
- 23:20Speaker 1: you know, some some people are still a little bit
- 23:21Speaker 1: leery about AI and things like that. But everything God
- 23:24Speaker 1: made was good. The truth is the enemy would get
- 23:27Speaker 1: his hands on anything and perverted, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:30Speaker 1: So no chat GPT is not God, No chat GPT
- 23:33Speaker 1: is not the Holy Spirit. It's a tool. Just like
- 23:35Speaker 1: you go to Google to research the scripture, you can
- 23:37Speaker 1: go to chat, GPT and researcher scripture as well. Yeah.
- 23:40Speaker 1: So I said all of that to say, I'm gonna
- 23:42Speaker 1: make my note put Pastor Mark episode in the links
- 23:46Speaker 1: so I don't forget the link it to the video.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Oh by God, all right, done with that commercial break.
- 23:54Speaker 1: But I was sitting there at the Freedom Conference. Every
- 23:56Speaker 1: encounter that I've had with Pastor Mark, I first when
- 23:59Speaker 1: I first met Pastor Mark, I say it in this
- 24:02Speaker 1: in that episode, that man stood in this very room
- 24:06Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I'm Pastor Mark, and I was once
- 24:12Speaker 1: addicted to pornography, and the Lord delivered me. The blessing though,
- 24:18Speaker 1: is he was he was still doing the things that
- 24:21Speaker 1: God called him to do. That's that's the thing, right.
- 24:23Speaker 1: So it's kind of like we're moving in these things
- 24:26Speaker 1: of God, you know, preaching, teaching, you know, sharing the word,
- 24:29Speaker 1: blah blah blah, but there's still some things that we
- 24:31Speaker 1: are not truly free from. And so that was so
- 24:34Speaker 1: beautiful because it's like, hey, I did this because Shane
- 24:37Speaker 1: Well will definitely keep us not from talking about these things.
- 24:41Speaker 1: But when you're truly free indeed, when you're truly truly yeah,
- 24:45Speaker 1: I'm pastor Mark, you know pretty much. I was pastoring
- 24:48Speaker 1: doing all these things, and I was addicted to porn.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yep was I was addicted to porn. And he said
- 24:54Speaker 1: the Lord broke me away from it. He said, he
- 24:56Speaker 1: describes it as like something like if something crazy open
- 25:00Speaker 1: on his head and it's like a shed Like it
- 25:03Speaker 1: was like a shedding. So he said that so much.
- 25:09Speaker 1: But it was something about when I just kept people,
- 25:11Speaker 1: I was like, it's the same people at this conference.
- 25:14Speaker 1: And he starts off with his testimony. Sometimes in a
- 25:19Speaker 1: black church, you think testimonial of God healed me, he
- 25:23Speaker 1: delivered me, he set me free, and that's how you
- 25:27Speaker 1: leave it at that, but you don't say what it
- 25:29Speaker 1: was from, like or you might say I was in
- 25:32Speaker 1: the hospital last week and the Lord helped me get out.
- 25:35Speaker 1: You know, that's the testimony. You know what I'm saying.
- 25:38Speaker 1: It was a rarity or it's been very rare in
- 25:41Speaker 1: my life where I've heard people confess and confessed publicly
- 25:46Speaker 1: exactly just being open about it. So that just kind
- 25:49Speaker 1: of like took me aback. And so when we were
- 25:52Speaker 1: sitting there and he did it again and I was
- 25:54Speaker 1: having my moment. I pulled him the sign and I
- 25:56Speaker 1: was just like, Man, passed, Mary, I really want to
- 26:00Speaker 1: who if I get emotional, it's okay. I really want
- 26:04Speaker 1: to learn how to tell my testimony. But the part
- 26:10Speaker 1: of my testimony that I know I'm supposed to tell,
- 26:13Speaker 1: I'm very very ashamed of it. Like and so he
- 26:19Speaker 1: just put his hands on my shoulder and you know,
- 26:21Speaker 1: he just kind of like told me it was gonna
- 26:24Speaker 1: be okay, that the Lord was gonna you know, get
- 26:26Speaker 1: me there, just encouraging me or whatever. And man, just
- 26:31Speaker 1: every time I see him, like I see him on
- 26:33Speaker 1: social media, I just light up because it's something I
- 26:36Speaker 1: don't know what pastor mark that it was part of
- 26:38Speaker 1: my dm A is supposed to but I feel like
- 26:41Speaker 1: a kid in a candiy store every time I see that. Man.
- 26:44Speaker 1: But I was sitting there and I said, God, I
- 26:47Speaker 1: asked God. I said God, I want to be able
- 26:48Speaker 1: to tell my testimony like that, because how can I
- 26:51Speaker 1: have this platform? How can I have just asked the podcast, Well,
- 26:54Speaker 1: we create a safe space, and I'm not being safe
- 26:57Speaker 1: for me. I'm not being you know, I'm I'm all
- 27:01Speaker 1: clouded in my mind and all discombobulated. I'm everything, but
- 27:06Speaker 1: I'm ashamed of what you're even bringing me through in
- 27:10Speaker 1: the current season. You get what I'm saying, And so
- 27:13Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to be like that, and
- 27:14Speaker 1: so immediately not too far, well immediately after that, interestingly enough,
- 27:23Speaker 1: I shared my testimony for the first time with a
- 27:27Speaker 1: small group. I was already planned, so it had to
- 27:29Speaker 1: be somewhere around Mother's Day because I spoke. I think
- 27:31Speaker 1: it was day. It doesn't matter. But my godmother is
- 27:34Speaker 1: a part of this online ministry and they meet every
- 27:37Speaker 1: Sunday at nine, and so I am. I am preparing
- 27:44Speaker 1: to say this out loud for the first time to
- 27:46Speaker 1: a group of women. No for the second time, and
- 27:49Speaker 1: we'll get to that. I'm trying to not keep this
- 27:51Speaker 1: long with it because this has been a journey. Jesus,
- 27:53Speaker 1: this has been a journey. So it always it was
- 27:57Speaker 1: to some people that I didn't know, but also and
- 28:02Speaker 1: it was two people that I won't say I feared,
- 28:05Speaker 1: but I feared, meaning that it was a few people
- 28:09Speaker 1: on that I grew up with. And there have been
- 28:11Speaker 1: some instances where my character has been a question or
- 28:21Speaker 1: criticized in a way that it was like, no, that's
- 28:24Speaker 1: not what I'm doing. Like now, who told you that
- 28:26Speaker 1: I was doing that? And so there's some some stains
- 28:30Speaker 1: in that relationship, you know what I'm saying, those relationships.
- 28:33Speaker 1: But I'm so glad grateful that my godmother was there
- 28:37Speaker 1: and she I'm gonna tell y'all the testimony taking y'all
- 28:40Speaker 1: gonna hold on until y'all gonna watch this whole episode.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Y'all gonna watch this whole episode. But no, I say
- 28:51Speaker 1: my testimony and the outcry, the outcry of this was
- 29:01Speaker 1: just so overwhelmed me. And I dealt with the with
- 29:04Speaker 1: the idea of dealing with shame, right, and I came
- 29:08Speaker 1: from the Lord revealed to me that there is a
- 29:11Speaker 1: difference between the scripture that says, I think it's in James,
- 29:16Speaker 1: hold on, give me one second, give me one second second,
- 29:24Speaker 1: all right, all right, So I'm gonna read the ARSV
- 29:28Speaker 1: real quick because it's the first thing. But it's James
- 29:31Speaker 1: five sixteen. It says, therefore, confess your sins to one
- 29:34Speaker 1: another and pray for one another that you may be healed.
- 29:38Speaker 1: The prayer of a righteous person has great power, as
- 29:41Speaker 1: it is working. Okay, And so I will the Lord.
- 29:46Speaker 1: The Lord revealed that to me years ago at a
- 29:48Speaker 1: at a retreat that I was hosting, and I was
- 29:52Speaker 1: in confession season. I want you to pay attention to this.
- 29:56Speaker 1: I was in confession season to the point where because
- 30:01Speaker 1: I couldn't even get it out of my mouth or
- 30:03Speaker 1: what I had done right, or just come to the
- 30:06Speaker 1: realization of what was going on. And so I was
- 30:09Speaker 1: confessing and then I confessed again that I got caught
- 30:13Speaker 1: up again. I got confessed again. You know what I'm saying.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Like it was just a whole It was like a
- 30:18Speaker 1: confession tour, like for years. For years, I was on
- 30:22Speaker 1: my confession tour, and the Lord had to take me.
- 30:26Speaker 1: And this is recent, like this is months a look
- 30:28Speaker 1: a few months ago. He recently said, Jessica, there's a
- 30:31Speaker 1: difference between confessing and testifying. There's a difference between that,
- 30:37Speaker 1: and what hinders you from testifying is your relationship with shame.
- 30:42Speaker 1: And so I have to I have to call shame
- 30:45Speaker 1: what it is. I am a shamed of what I
- 30:48Speaker 1: did and then I made it. I'm so ashamed of it.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I did so much relationship with shame that I started
- 30:54Speaker 1: to take that own as who I was and A
- 30:58Speaker 1: in an subconscious way is I'm not saying it right
- 31:04Speaker 1: unconscious conscious I'm trying to saund all boogeous stuff. We
- 31:08Speaker 1: knew what you thought about. I'm trying to I'm trying
- 31:09Speaker 1: to get through this, okay. So I'm starting to unconsciously
- 31:16Speaker 1: identify as something because of what I've experienced, right, and
- 31:23Speaker 1: so me being able to do that, I got over
- 31:27Speaker 1: the emotions of confession, of testifying it was. I was
- 31:33Speaker 1: able to get over the emotion behind it, the thought
- 31:36Speaker 1: of people would like not understand or people would judge
- 31:41Speaker 1: me or be like, oh you you dish you that, X,
- 31:44Speaker 1: Y and Z, you owe me explanation type thing, like
- 31:46Speaker 1: everybody feel like you owe them an explanation when you
- 31:48Speaker 1: didn't you didn't been through something. But I'm the one
- 31:51Speaker 1: that's dealing with and in my mind, I'm really trying
- 31:53Speaker 1: to get out of it, and not when you're in
- 31:56Speaker 1: something or when I have That's why I feel like
- 31:58Speaker 1: I have compassion towards people, because when you're in something,
- 32:01Speaker 1: you don't see it. I was talking to my sister
- 32:03Speaker 1: last night and I ain't gonna lie. I was crying.
- 32:05Speaker 1: I was sobbing over a situation and I heard the
- 32:09Speaker 1: Holy spirits say the lyrics of amazing grace. Once was blind,
- 32:13Speaker 1: but now I see, And I said, God, we glorified.
- 32:17Speaker 1: And I'm having this conversation where I'm like, God, we
- 32:19Speaker 1: glorify that. That SI that that that that revelation of
- 32:23Speaker 1: being from going from blindness to being able to see.
- 32:26Speaker 1: But what happens when you don't like what you see?
- 32:30Speaker 1: What happens when who? God? What happens when you're the
- 32:34Speaker 1: blindness that you were underfelt better than what you actually see?
- 32:39Speaker 1: What do I do with this sight? What do I
- 32:41Speaker 1: do with this revelation that you've given me? Because how
- 32:43Speaker 1: could I? I was in it and I didn't see it.
- 32:46Speaker 1: I was experiencing and I didn't know what the language
- 32:48Speaker 1: was for it. I don't know what to do with
- 32:51Speaker 1: this revelation. What do I do with the revelation of
- 32:56Speaker 1: this testimony or what he brought me through, or who
- 32:58Speaker 1: I've been dealing with, Like what do I do with it?
- 33:00Speaker 1: So just he was dealing with me on that and
- 33:04Speaker 1: so to get from that point of just being able
- 33:08Speaker 1: to say it, the responses of the people were like,
- 33:12Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like I was just talking my talking
- 33:15Speaker 1: to such and such about this. I was going down
- 33:18Speaker 1: the line. I was doing X, Y and Z. All
- 33:21Speaker 1: in all this was before I got the opportunity to
- 33:28Speaker 1: speak to the Love Lady Center, and so I thought,
- 33:31Speaker 1: I said, Okay, God, I know eventually you'll have me
- 33:34Speaker 1: speak to the podcast about it. But I felt like
- 33:36Speaker 1: the Love Lady Center was practiced for what I'm doing
- 33:39Speaker 1: right now. Like they gave me a warm up, they
- 33:43Speaker 1: gave me celebration, they gave me understanding, like I as
- 33:47Speaker 1: much as they might have thought they needed me to
- 33:49Speaker 1: come or ask me to come, I needed them. I
- 33:51Speaker 1: really did. And so did you want you look like
- 33:54Speaker 1: you want to say something. Okay, I just want to
- 33:56Speaker 1: pause because I know we're here. We're here, and so
- 34:00Speaker 1: so when we go back to John eight, okay, I
- 34:06Speaker 1: hear you, Holy Spirit. So the difference, the difference between
- 34:14Speaker 1: confessing and testifying, UH is understanding that the only way
- 34:22Speaker 1: you are able to testify is if you break up
- 34:24Speaker 1: with shame. Right, so we've established that we need to
- 34:27Speaker 1: break up with shame. The way you break up with shame,
- 34:31Speaker 1: you announce the testifying. That's why the revelation says we
- 34:38Speaker 1: overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word
- 34:39Speaker 1: of the testimony, the blood of the Lamb covered us.
- 34:43Speaker 1: The testimony exposes what he covered. But because he's still
- 34:50Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. The picture is so beautiful, like I'm
- 34:52Speaker 1: still gonna cover you in this. I need you to
- 34:54Speaker 1: tell him about it. But you are protected, you know
- 34:57Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So there's protection from God, no matter
- 35:00Speaker 1: what people may think, no matter what situations may come up,
- 35:03Speaker 1: no matter if something comes up again, like, there is
- 35:06Speaker 1: covering when you submit yourself and God, when you understand
- 35:09Speaker 1: and you receive the Lord as your Lord and savior,
- 35:11Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, and receive his salvation, there is covering. And
- 35:16Speaker 1: because I'm covered, I can testify. And I wasn't being covered.
- 35:21Speaker 1: I was wasn't allowing him to cover me in that.
- 35:23Speaker 1: And so my testimony is is that I was. I've
- 35:29Speaker 1: experienced being an adultery twice. And when I when I
- 35:35Speaker 1: go down the whole list of ideas of why I
- 35:39Speaker 1: didn't want to testify testify, why I didn't want to
- 35:41Speaker 1: say anything, one of the main reasons is because this
- 35:45Speaker 1: has happened to me twice this week. And this is
- 35:48Speaker 1: why I feel like this is the perfect moment to
- 35:51Speaker 1: say this because the enemy has really tried to attack
- 35:53Speaker 1: me in this area, this specific area. Man, woman of God.
- 36:00Speaker 1: If somebody air quote me on being a woman of
- 36:03Speaker 1: God or try to act like I'm not a woman
- 36:05Speaker 1: of God, especially because what I've experienced that breaks my
- 36:10Speaker 1: heart because y'all, I love God for real, I really do.
- 36:22Speaker 1: And I'm trying to navigate what my love for God
- 36:26Speaker 1: looks like and what my relationship with God looks like.
- 36:31Speaker 1: It's so it's so daunting when I have to feel
- 36:38Speaker 1: like I have to compare myself to someone else's life
- 36:46Speaker 1: and their journey. But truth is what the enemy meant
- 36:52Speaker 1: for evil, God meant for good. And I'm coming into
- 36:56Speaker 1: the revelation is that I am God allows me to
- 36:59Speaker 1: beat that I needed and so I needed some I
- 37:05Speaker 1: needed somebody or to have a conversation with somebody older men,
- 37:08Speaker 1: it's a girl. I've been through this. Boy, these the
- 37:10Speaker 1: warning signs blah blah blah. They're not gonna always tell
- 37:12Speaker 1: you that they not that they married that. You know.
- 37:15Speaker 1: It's like I needed that and I got caught up
- 37:17Speaker 1: in some things because I didn't know the other person's testimony. Y'all.
- 37:22Speaker 1: This this touch is the area because our silence, our
- 37:26Speaker 1: unwillingness to testify, is making unnecessary moves or allowing people
- 37:32Speaker 1: to move unnecessarily in their own lives. We should be
- 37:35Speaker 1: building from this, come to find out. And when I
- 37:40Speaker 1: thought about it, there's ray And I don't want to like,
- 37:43Speaker 1: this is not a tick for tech thing. I just
- 37:45Speaker 1: want to kind of expose another revelation that I had
- 37:48Speaker 1: and adultery has run in my bloodline on both sides.
- 37:54Speaker 1: So ain't none of y'all out. If y'all come on
- 37:56Speaker 1: my page right now, be okay with the lord. Okay,
- 38:00Speaker 1: that's all I got to say. I ain't got nothing
- 38:02Speaker 1: for you, but I look, I researched my bloodline, right,
- 38:07Speaker 1: I do have something for you. I heard your other spirit.
- 38:09Speaker 1: I do have I have love. But this is I'm done.
- 38:12Speaker 1: I am done. I researched my bloodline, and my bloodline
- 38:16Speaker 1: told me that adultery was in the mix. And because
- 38:21Speaker 1: we kept it a secret so long, and and it
- 38:26Speaker 1: just hid it for so long, it comes up. So
- 38:29Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was like, I don't even know
- 38:31Speaker 1: why I'm dealing with this right now, Like I don't
- 38:33Speaker 1: even know why I'm getting an opportunity to experience the
- 38:36Speaker 1: face of adultery, and yeah, I know, I know what.
- 38:40Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, I hear what you might
- 38:41Speaker 1: be thinking. Just even never been married. Adultery works on
- 38:44Speaker 1: both ends. Your adultery, when you experience adultery, it works
- 38:48Speaker 1: on both ends. So whether you're married or not, and
- 38:50Speaker 1: you're in the situation, the covenant has been defiled, right,
- 38:56Speaker 1: And so whether you know or don't know, that's the
- 38:59Speaker 1: that's the that's the interesting part about it, whether you
- 39:03Speaker 1: know or you don't know. And so I found myself
- 39:07Speaker 1: does a ray trying to trying to defend myself, and
- 39:13Speaker 1: I was trying to defend myself, but I was defending
- 39:16Speaker 1: myself in shame. Yeah, I wasn't defending myself in freedom.
- 39:20Speaker 1: And defending myself in freedom is realizing that God defends me.
- 39:25Speaker 1: So me telling y'all this right now, and I'm okay,
- 39:28Speaker 1: like I'm crying because like the whole woman of God
- 39:31Speaker 1: thing that's still like a ooh, please don't come with
- 39:35Speaker 1: me or Dad, I'm almost fighting words that you just
- 39:37Speaker 1: almost cuse like you just cussed me out. Okay, Like
- 39:40Speaker 1: I am. I love God for real and God is
- 39:43Speaker 1: the only reason why I'm even own this platform. God
- 39:45Speaker 1: is the only reason why I'm even speaking about this
- 39:47Speaker 1: God is I want to obey God so much. I
- 39:50Speaker 1: want to give God my years so much to overcome myself. Y'all.
- 39:54Speaker 1: We gotta get to a point where we overcome ourselves
- 39:57Speaker 1: because what we do, what we feel. Genuinely. I love all, y'all,
- 40:02Speaker 1: and I mean this in the most genuine way. It
- 40:04Speaker 1: does not matter, especially when it comes to the will
- 40:07Speaker 1: of the Lord. We get we get so caught up
- 40:11Speaker 1: and so abundanged and so entangled with the idea of
- 40:15Speaker 1: of of being ashamed and everybody ain't got to know
- 40:18Speaker 1: your business. And then, I mean, that's parts of its
- 40:20Speaker 1: truest levels to sharing your the knowledge and your wisdom
- 40:24Speaker 1: with certain certain people. But when you use that as
- 40:27Speaker 1: a defense card, it's like, no, no, you, you, you,
- 40:32Speaker 1: you can't do that, And so you don't get to
- 40:34Speaker 1: experience the benefit hallelujah. You don't get to experience the
- 40:38Speaker 1: benefit of testifying, which is living in true freedom, because
- 40:43Speaker 1: it says who the Son sets free is free. Indeed,
- 40:46Speaker 1: that word indeed is a in Greek form in the
- 40:49Speaker 1: original language, and indeed means like uh like in reality,
- 40:54Speaker 1: like it's not fake. It's not it's it's tangible. Like
- 40:58Speaker 1: I'm so serious. You're gonna be free, but you're gonna
- 41:02Speaker 1: be the the ultimate level of freedom. You're not gonna
- 41:05Speaker 1: experience freedom one day and the free be out of
- 41:08Speaker 1: freedom the other day. You're not gonna be able to
- 41:11Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to leave freedom. You're gonna be
- 41:13Speaker 1: so free that you're gonna be married to freedom. And
- 41:17Speaker 1: to to be able to experience that level of freedom,
- 41:20Speaker 1: we have to open up our mouth. And so it's good.
- 41:24Speaker 1: The the easy read version, I like the easy Easy
- 41:26Speaker 1: Read pretty much says the same thing. It says, So
- 41:28Speaker 1: if the sun makes you free, you are really free,
- 41:31Speaker 1: which means it's it's for real. I think what happens
- 41:34Speaker 1: a lot of times is we give the enemy a
- 41:37Speaker 1: little bit more power than he really has. He really
- 41:38Speaker 1: only has the power suggestion. Right, if you think about
- 41:41Speaker 1: in the garden when he said did God really say that? Yeah,
- 41:46Speaker 1: So it's kind of like he'll like, you're going through
- 41:48Speaker 1: you've been going through these cycles. And if you really
- 41:50Speaker 1: truly believe that the Lord has made you free, now
- 41:53Speaker 1: the enemy can come and be like, but are you
- 41:55Speaker 1: really free? Yeah? You know what I'm saying. And if
- 41:57Speaker 1: you don't believe the word, because that's what it is.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Word is truth. If you don't believe the word, then
- 42:01Speaker 1: you be like because because at the end of the days,
- 42:04Speaker 1: salvation sanctification is a process. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
- 42:07Speaker 1: So even though the Lord has freed you, yeah, there
- 42:10Speaker 1: still may be some residues there that he has to
- 42:12Speaker 1: take you through a process of washing off. Right, first,
- 42:15Speaker 1: it's gonna come with one. He's already forgiven you, but
- 42:17Speaker 1: now you gotta forgive yourself, you know what I'm saying.
- 42:20Speaker 1: So if you haven't gone through the process of forgiving yourself,
- 42:22Speaker 1: you're gonna be kind of going back and forth. It's
- 42:24Speaker 1: like I, you know, I did this thing, but I
- 42:26Speaker 1: know the Lord say that I'm free, but I in
- 42:28Speaker 1: the enemy, Like, well, are you really free? Like you're
- 42:31Speaker 1: going back and really free? Yeah, but remember you did
- 42:33Speaker 1: this and you remember they did that. Like, so that's
- 42:36Speaker 1: how the cycles continue to come. But if we stand
- 42:39Speaker 1: on the word, if we really truly believe the word,
- 42:41Speaker 1: that the Lord has freed you, he has covered you,
- 42:43Speaker 1: and he has forgiven you, so it don't matter what
- 42:45Speaker 1: nobody else say. Yeah, like look my dad and already
- 42:48Speaker 1: forgave me. Yeah, I'm forgiven myself. You can't hold me
- 42:50Speaker 1: and you can't hold me in to nothing, Yeah, yeah,
- 42:52Speaker 1: you can't. You can't hold me to something. He's freed
- 42:54Speaker 1: me from. Yeah, like it was already taking care of
- 42:57Speaker 1: the cross, and and and another thing that I said
- 43:00Speaker 1: I said to the ladies and I'm going to say now,
- 43:02Speaker 1: is that we have to realize that we do not
- 43:05Speaker 1: own our freedom. That's the biggest thing. Like I thought
- 43:08Speaker 1: I was the owner of my freedom, and I didn't
- 43:10Speaker 1: think like say that I lowed, but I was acting
- 43:12Speaker 1: like it because I was trying to control the outcome.
- 43:15Speaker 1: I was trying to cover it up. I was trying
- 43:17Speaker 1: to do better things. I was trying to be in relationship,
- 43:22Speaker 1: like just fixing it. If I was trying to fix
- 43:25Speaker 1: something that I couldn't fix. I can't fix what I did.
- 43:30Speaker 1: I can't go back and say, you know what, let
- 43:33Speaker 1: me let me close up shop real quick, let me
- 43:36Speaker 1: take back. I can't do that. I have to lean
- 43:40Speaker 1: into the person that can make me hold the one
- 43:43Speaker 1: that can free me from all of this. And so
- 43:46Speaker 1: there's one more thing. I'm not the owner of my freedom.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Let me finish my stavor. I'm not the owner of
- 43:50Speaker 1: my freedom, God is. I'm just the manager. I managed
- 43:54Speaker 1: what God. That's the whole point of the ship, the
- 43:56Speaker 1: stewardship challenge. I stowred what God gives? What did he
- 43:59Speaker 1: get me freedom? I can only stward the gift. I
- 44:04Speaker 1: don't own it. I stored the God given. I store
- 44:07Speaker 1: the prophetic gift. I stood the ministry. I store it,
- 44:10Speaker 1: the podcast, I store it the home. I stored my business.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I stored what guys gives me. Why do not I
- 44:17Speaker 1: not steward freedom? So when I do have my moments
- 44:19Speaker 1: of weaknesses, when I do have my moment moments of frustration,
- 44:23Speaker 1: I need to submit myself back to God because I'm
- 44:25Speaker 1: gonna mismanage that in my fledge. I'm gonna mismanage my
- 44:28Speaker 1: freedom because I'm in in my head. I mean, I'm
- 44:32Speaker 1: I'm I'm in fleshly thoughts. I'm not. I'm not experiencing
- 44:36Speaker 1: God on the level that I need to experience him as.
- 44:39Speaker 1: And so I really want to read this scripture to
- 44:41Speaker 1: you guys before we before we land a plane on
- 44:43Speaker 1: this because I'm trying to be preaching preaching y'all, because
- 44:47Speaker 1: I'm coming for the devil's neck yard. I'm about sick
- 44:50Speaker 1: of you, loucial for period. But clock okay, now showing
- 45:00Speaker 1: your age, it's showing your age. Let me go to Google.
- 45:02Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that again. All right, we're gonna have
- 45:06Speaker 1: to call Tiffany. So I knew I was struggling, y'all.
- 45:12Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. I was struggling that. In
- 45:14Speaker 1: the same morning, I was like, God, what do you
- 45:20Speaker 1: really want me to say this? This like it was
- 45:22Speaker 1: at least two hundred women anyway, it was like three
- 45:26Speaker 1: levels and you can hear it. You can. I'm now
- 45:30Speaker 1: that I say this, I'm probably just gonna release. I'm
- 45:32Speaker 1: probably just gonna end up releasing the what I said,
- 45:36Speaker 1: like the actual thing the recording. Shout out to Desiate
- 45:38Speaker 1: for recording. I support you, girl, I appreciate you. I
- 45:42Speaker 1: appreciate you. So I was struggling with the idea of
- 45:46Speaker 1: telling the testimony or whatever, because I was just trying
- 45:48Speaker 1: to make sure that, for one, I wasn't trying. I
- 45:51Speaker 1: don't know. I don't ever want to do stuff for cloud.
- 45:53Speaker 1: I don't never want to do anything that is just
- 45:57Speaker 1: outside of the willow of God. Because it's always just
- 45:59Speaker 1: like ghetto after the bag like it's ghetto. So this
- 46:02Speaker 1: is how he confirmed me. Remember we was already in
- 46:04Speaker 1: chapter eight, where as A thirty six. So if the
- 46:10Speaker 1: eight thirty six, so John, so a, I can catch it,
- 46:14Speaker 1: John eight thirty six. So if the sun sets you free,
- 46:18Speaker 1: you really will be free. But if you go back
- 46:21Speaker 1: to the first first verse, and I'm gonna start reading here,
- 46:26Speaker 1: okay eight John ate one, and it reads but Jesus
- 46:32Speaker 1: went to the mount of Olives. At done, he went
- 46:35Speaker 1: to the temple again, and all the people were coming
- 46:38Speaker 1: to him. He sat down and began to teach them.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught
- 46:45Speaker 1: in adultery, making her stand in the center. Teacher. They
- 46:49Speaker 1: said to him, this woman was caught in the act
- 46:52Speaker 1: of committing adultery in the law of Moses. In the
- 46:56Speaker 1: Law of Moses commanded us to stone such women. So
- 47:01Speaker 1: what do you say. They asked this to trap him
- 47:05Speaker 1: in order that they might have evidence to accuse him.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground with
- 47:13Speaker 1: his finger. When they persisted in questioning him, he stood
- 47:17Speaker 1: up and said to them, the one without sin among
- 47:21Speaker 1: you should be the first to throw a stone at her.
- 47:25Speaker 1: Then he stooped down again and continued writing on the ground.
- 47:29Speaker 1: When they heard this, they left one by one, starting
- 47:34Speaker 1: with the older men. Only he was left with the
- 47:37Speaker 1: woman in the center. When Jesus stood up, he said
- 47:42Speaker 1: to her, woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?
- 47:47Speaker 1: No one? Lord? She answered, neither do I condemn you?
- 47:52Speaker 1: Said Jesus, go and from now on, do not sin anymore.
- 47:58Speaker 1: And I've always I've always heard this scripture, I know
- 48:04Speaker 1: this story. And normally we use the stories like as
- 48:08Speaker 1: the subject of you the first without sining the person
- 48:12Speaker 1: without saying cast the first on the one without saying
- 48:14Speaker 1: cast his first one, and we use it as a
- 48:16Speaker 1: defense mechanism. But reading this with the revelation I have
- 48:21Speaker 1: now with freedom, this reminds me of my freedom. This
- 48:25Speaker 1: reminds me of God loves me so much that he'll
- 48:27Speaker 1: check people for me. And so this is not no threat.
- 48:30Speaker 1: This is not you know, me saying you know, oh,
- 48:33Speaker 1: God gonna get you. But be mindful of who you
- 48:36Speaker 1: try to present and who sins you try to present,
- 48:38Speaker 1: because God is gonna make put a mirror to your
- 48:41Speaker 1: face and say, hey, what have you done that I've
- 48:43Speaker 1: had to forgive you for? That's just real, That's that's no,
- 48:46Speaker 1: there's no shade, there's no trying to cover me because
- 48:48Speaker 1: I've already exposed myself. Can't do nothing else this bro,
- 48:53Speaker 1: I've already exposed myself. Okay. But the part that I
- 48:58Speaker 1: really honed on into verse ten, when he said it says,
- 49:02Speaker 1: when Jesus stood up, he said to her woman, where
- 49:05Speaker 1: are they? Has no one condemned you? And so he
- 49:08Speaker 1: asked me, Jessica. He was like, Jessica, where are they?
- 49:12Speaker 1: Where are they? What are your nay says, where are
- 49:15Speaker 1: your people? That like to use air quotes with a
- 49:16Speaker 1: woman of God? Where are they? Where are they? I
- 49:19Speaker 1: see no one, I see no hater. I see God.
- 49:24Speaker 1: And that's all I'm looking forward to. I'm done with
- 49:26Speaker 1: the trying the people please and trying to get you
- 49:30Speaker 1: to understand what I've been through and that I'm really
- 49:32Speaker 1: at the core of my core my being. I'm a
- 49:35Speaker 1: good person, like I don't. I am sick of defending myself,
- 49:39Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna testify because I don't have to
- 49:42Speaker 1: defend myself. God defends me and that's living and real freedom.
- 49:46Speaker 1: Desi Ray, I want to know how you felt when
- 49:48Speaker 1: you where you because Desiree knew my testimony. Of course,
- 49:53Speaker 1: this is my best friend for real, like this is
- 49:55Speaker 1: my sister. She knows me naked, like I mean just
- 50:02Speaker 1: not like that, but like but like like she knows
- 50:06Speaker 1: us all of me I ain't seen. Yeah, okay, just
- 50:09Speaker 1: start talking because I just I just I just took it,
- 50:12Speaker 1: took a turn, ain't No. I think it's so beautiful
- 50:17Speaker 1: because I do know your testimony because I have a
- 50:21Speaker 1: similar testimony, right And when you said, you know, Lord
- 50:25Speaker 1: once were once our eyes are not open? What do
- 50:29Speaker 1: we do with that? And that's when I begin to
- 50:31Speaker 1: really learn relationship with the Lord because like I'm like God,
- 50:34Speaker 1: dang like because when your eyes are open for me,
- 50:37Speaker 1: I start self evaluating, like what made me make these
- 50:40Speaker 1: types of decisions? You know what I'm saying. And so
- 50:42Speaker 1: the Lord in the last couple of years, you know,
- 50:44Speaker 1: I talked about my dad, not that my dad made
- 50:45Speaker 1: me make these decisions, but I do believe that there
- 50:48Speaker 1: are some things that that I was lacking that I
- 50:53Speaker 1: had not yet come into the revelation of allowing God
- 50:56Speaker 1: to be able to love and heal in those spaces.
- 50:58Speaker 1: So in those moments, he began to show me some
- 51:01Speaker 1: spaces that were empty, that were broken, and I began
- 51:04Speaker 1: to submit it to him, you know what I'm saying.
- 51:06Speaker 1: So on this journey of me moving, like y'all know,
- 51:08Speaker 1: I've moved probably like five by four or five times
- 51:10Speaker 1: in the last three years. Each move was so strategic
- 51:14Speaker 1: in my healing journey. Right. So to the person looking
- 51:18Speaker 1: from the outside end, outside end, it's outside end. Yeah,
- 51:21Speaker 1: looking from the outside end, it may look like I've
- 51:23Speaker 1: I've been a little unstable, but the Lord was really
- 51:26Speaker 1: using that one to help me break free of being
- 51:29Speaker 1: attached to things, to people. But also in those spaces
- 51:33Speaker 1: it was so healing. Like me staying with my friend
- 51:35Speaker 1: Ebony began to just open me up to affection and love.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Now staying where I am now, I'm getting to see
- 51:43Speaker 1: like kingdom marriage, you know what I'm saying. And he's
- 51:45Speaker 1: just opened me up in Saven. But also that in
- 51:48Speaker 1: that space, not only has he forgiven me, not only
- 51:50Speaker 1: has he he covered me, but he's also restoring the
- 51:53Speaker 1: relationship with my father, you know what I'm saying. So
- 51:56Speaker 1: it's yes, we've all gone through things, we've all done things.
- 51:59Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is who the Son
- 52:02Speaker 1: has set free. It's truly free, indeed, And if you
- 52:05Speaker 1: believe that, if you stand on that, that that's the
- 52:07Speaker 1: truth that you know what I'm saying. So it doesn't
- 52:09Speaker 1: matter what the enemy comes to say to you, It
- 52:11Speaker 1: doesn't matter what nobody try to bring up from your past.
- 52:13Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like sins bruh, you are
- 52:16Speaker 1: free for real. You know what I'm saying real in
- 52:18Speaker 1: real life. And we just have to continue to feed
- 52:22Speaker 1: that in our in our spirits, like just repeat, repeat
- 52:25Speaker 1: it every day. If you're walking through these things like
- 52:26Speaker 1: right now, just know that the Lord has already set
- 52:29Speaker 1: you free from that. Now you just have to allow
- 52:31Speaker 1: him to sanctify you, to clean you up, to heal you,
- 52:34Speaker 1: to to to go into those broken places that that
- 52:37Speaker 1: only he can heal. Like literally, there's those things like
- 52:40Speaker 1: your soul and your and your heart posture, things like
- 52:43Speaker 1: those are spaces that only the Lord himself can heal.
- 52:45Speaker 1: And we have to begin to build that relationship with him.
- 52:48Speaker 1: So when I heard you tell the testimony, I was like, dang,
- 52:51Speaker 1: Lord like you you you I've seen you in spaces
- 52:55Speaker 1: where you were teaching and talking before, and you just
- 52:59Speaker 1: it just flowed so beautifully, and I saw the freedom,
- 53:04Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, yes, it's the hard
- 53:06Speaker 1: testimony to tell, you know, just because you don't know
- 53:09Speaker 1: the response to the people. But I saw the freedom
- 53:11Speaker 1: so and even today, like, I'm very grateful to be
- 53:16Speaker 1: a witness of the testimony, to be a partaker of
- 53:19Speaker 1: the testimony, because it's not just for us, it's for
- 53:23Speaker 1: who it's for. Yeah, somebody's gonna be listening and they're
- 53:26Speaker 1: going to know. Dang, I messed up. I've made all
- 53:28Speaker 1: these decisions. You know, things happen, you know what I'm saying.
- 53:31Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm already free.
- 53:34Speaker 1: I'm already and we can live in that. Yeah, we
- 53:37Speaker 1: can live in that. That's so good. That's so good.
- 53:39Speaker 1: I'm I feel good. I was like y'all don't know,
- 53:43Speaker 1: like on the other end of everything and desireaking a
- 53:46Speaker 1: test like I've been going through it like really bad,
- 53:52Speaker 1: and I'm like, Lord, how do I fight this? And
- 53:56Speaker 1: I'm choosing to fight with my testimony. Yeah, I gonna
- 53:59Speaker 1: say this real quick to just I think the thing
- 54:01Speaker 1: that we forget sometimes, especially as I'm gonna use the
- 54:06Speaker 1: word Christian right, that sometimes we can be so righteous,
- 54:10Speaker 1: so religious, that we forget the things that we've done
- 54:15Speaker 1: and the thing in the places that God has brought
- 54:17Speaker 1: us through, and we forget the love walk like we
- 54:20Speaker 1: get caught up in the in the in the act
- 54:22Speaker 1: of you know, I do this, I do this, I'm
- 54:24Speaker 1: for the Lord about blah. But at the heart of
- 54:27Speaker 1: the thing, the Lord told us to love our neighbors
- 54:29Speaker 1: as ourselves. He said, love me with all your heart,
- 54:31Speaker 1: and love your neighbors as yourself. And we forget that love.
- 54:34Speaker 1: If we forget the main we forget to make the
- 54:36Speaker 1: main thing. The main thing is the is the heart
- 54:39Speaker 1: of God is to love his people. Like you don't
- 54:41Speaker 1: have to love you don't have to agree with what
- 54:43Speaker 1: somebody has done, but at the end of the day,
- 54:45Speaker 1: you still have to love them for who they are,
- 54:46Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we just forget that.
- 54:48Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes this journey so hard.
- 54:50Speaker 1: It is because it's like, dang, I really love God
- 54:52Speaker 1: for real, you know what I'm saying, And if somebody
- 54:55Speaker 1: really knows you, I love one thing my pastor would say,
- 54:57Speaker 1: is like, really get to know the heart of your leader,
- 54:59Speaker 1: because even when you know like they are rebuking you
- 55:03Speaker 1: and all these things, like, if you know that they
- 55:04Speaker 1: really love you and they're for you, then you know
- 55:06Speaker 1: they're not doing anything to hurt you, harm you, you
- 55:08Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so we just we just
- 55:10Speaker 1: forget that. Man. So at the end of the day,
- 55:13Speaker 1: I said, all that to say is that we can't
- 55:15Speaker 1: forget to love people. Yeah. Yeah, and I thank God
- 55:18Speaker 1: for you because you definitely have loved me through some things. Child,
- 55:21Speaker 1: well child, no, y'all. But to the original point that
- 55:29Speaker 1: we made, it's time to denounce fake freedom. Yeah, it's
- 55:32Speaker 1: time to give it up because it is wrong. Because
- 55:35Speaker 1: anything that's outside of the will of God, it's not
- 55:39Speaker 1: it's not it's not feeding us, it's not the fruit
- 55:42Speaker 1: of Him. And so we love you, guys, We honor you.
- 55:46Speaker 1: Let us know how you what you're experiencing. Even if
- 55:49Speaker 1: you want to get in the WhatsApp group and say
- 55:51Speaker 1: I'm just not evenna coming this, but I say in
- 55:52Speaker 1: the WhatsApp group, I DM you whatever. Feel free like
- 55:56Speaker 1: me and desireate are open, y'all, Like we are open,
- 55:59Speaker 1: so the lady or the other love lady. She said,
- 56:01Speaker 1: are you real, ris ma'am? You can that that blessed
- 56:10Speaker 1: my son. I was like, I know it should be,
- 56:11Speaker 1: but no, we're real and what you see is what
- 56:14Speaker 1: you're getting. So we love you. But until next time,
- 56:17Speaker 1: until next week, remember life could be much more simple
- 56:21Speaker 1: if you just asked pease all right? Thank you for
- 56:32Speaker 1: tuning in to this week's episode. Since you've made it
- 56:35Speaker 1: this far, you might as well connect with us on
- 56:37Speaker 1: all social media platforms at the Jessica S. Smith. I
- 56:42Speaker 1: know I won't see you back until next week, but
- 56:44Speaker 1: until then, remember to love always yourself and always.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Say thank God for one other day. Hey, I know
- 56:57Speaker 2: we could be another way. Hey, pray thank God for
- 57:03Speaker 2: another day.
- 57:05Speaker 1: Hey.
- 57:06Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just thankful another day.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Hey hey another day?
- 57:13Speaker 2: Oh another day wise, another day to get it right,
- 57:16Speaker 2: another day to rise up, another day living another day.
- 57:20Speaker 2: We loved ones. I always remember hold it down for
- 57:22Speaker 2: a ball one ye