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Ginny Andersen: Labour's Education Spokesperson on the Government offering non-union teachers a pay increase · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Primary teachers here back home, threatening legal action against the
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  Speaker 1: Public Service Commission. Why non union teachers were offered a
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  Speaker 1: pay rights around four and a half to four point
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  Speaker 1: seven percent within twelve months, roughly the same deal currently
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  Speaker 1: being negotiated with the union. On her first full day
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  Speaker 1: in the job, Jenny Anderson, Labor's education spokesperson, joins us
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  Speaker 1: lived any.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to have you here. What's wrong with teachers getting
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  Speaker 1: a pay rise?
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  Speaker 2: Teachers do an amazing job every day, but this is
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  Speaker 2: not going to help our kids learn, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: going to divide teachers and make life tougher for teachers
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  Speaker 2: who are already leaving and going off to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: How will an extra fifty to seventy six dollars a
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  Speaker 1: week in their back pocket stop them going to us?
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  Speaker 1: Not stop them going to Australia.
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  Speaker 2: This will divide teachers.
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  Speaker 3: It's a breach of good faith.
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  Speaker 2: So the way it usually happens is a collective agreement
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  Speaker 2: is negotiated and then this process happens. This has been
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  Speaker 2: used to divide teachers. And to be honest, if if
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  Speaker 2: Erica Stanford really did put our kids first, she wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be pulling a stunt like this.
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  Speaker 1: But they're already divided because a third of them aren't
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  Speaker 1: union members. They choose not to be. That's their adults.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what happens usually is the collective agreement is negotiated
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  Speaker 2: and then the individual happens after that. So by doing
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  Speaker 2: it this way, it's sue the divide's teachers. We've already
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  Speaker 2: got a teacher shortage of over seven hundred teachers, and
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  Speaker 2: this is not going to help our kids leave.
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  Speaker 1: But how is not paying non union teachers more going
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  Speaker 1: to help that shortage?
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  Speaker 2: Because it undermines the existing negotiation.
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  Speaker 1: We have to dim the one third, have to bend
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  Speaker 1: over for the two third.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's the way it always happens. The collective agreement
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  Speaker 2: is negotiating.
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  Speaker 4: How is that fair face bargaining to the ten thousand
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  Speaker 4: adult primary teachers out there who decide of their own
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  Speaker 4: free will to not be union members, why should they
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  Speaker 4: not get a pay rise?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, I.
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  Speaker 2: Hear what you're saying. I totally hear what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: But the way of doing this actually underlines teachers and
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  Speaker 2: will pay them lease. They've been in good faith negotiations
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  Speaker 2: We've heard the government say before that they should go
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  Speaker 2: back to the bargaining table and keep negotiating.
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  Speaker 3: The government should take its own jenny.
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  Speaker 1: That they've teachers. The two thirds who are union members
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  Speaker 1: could take this deal tomorrow too. They just choose not to.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone has free will. We're all adults. The kids are
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  Speaker 1: the ones that they teach.
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  Speaker 3: They choose not to.
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  Speaker 2: They choose not to because they believe they deserve better.
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  Speaker 3: They do inspirement so.
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  Speaker 4: They can have their beliefs.
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  Speaker 1: They can go and believe in God for all I like,
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  Speaker 1: But why stop the other ones? Why stop the other
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  Speaker 1: ones getting the money, because.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day it will mean least
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  Speaker 2: pay for our teachers, and we know that.
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  Speaker 3: They already get credible at least.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it's not I then end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: it will not be more as how look more what's
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  Speaker 2: being offered and what's being negotiated already these people work
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  Speaker 2: incredibly hard.
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  Speaker 4: How was fifty to seventy six dollars extra a week?
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  Speaker 1: Not more?
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  Speaker 2: Because they would get more under the collective if that
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  Speaker 2: kept being negotiated. The long game will provide more for
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  Speaker 2: teachers and give them what they're asking for through the bargaining.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a shortcut that gives them less.
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  Speaker 2: Money and not as good conditions as what they would get.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, sounds suspicious, Ginny. Appreciate your time this morning, Ginny
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  Speaker 1: Anderson from Labor.
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