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Ennea-Christmas Part #3 The Gut Triad (Types 8, 9, 1) with Melanie Erickson, Cynthia Buelna, and Jasmine Washington · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Plans, parties, and presents.
0:04
SPEAKER_00: Man, these days always go by in a blur.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: But what is Advent really all about?
0:11
SPEAKER_00: Avent is your invitation to take a step back.
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SPEAKER_00: For eight years, I've gathered and invited you here to slow down and to tune into something a little bit deeper.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: This season is about waiting and reconnecting.
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SPEAKER_00: For you, the multi-passionate woman who is seeking purpose.
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SPEAKER_00: Avent offers a chance for you to refocus on God, on yourself, and the people who matter most to you.
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SPEAKER_00: So this year, I'd love for you to pause with me.
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SPEAKER_00: I am creating space for intentionality and to make more room for Christ to meet you and me right where we find ourselves.
0:50
SPEAKER_00: So, welcome to the 8th Annual Advent Podcast Series, where we will learn a little, laugh a lot, and focus on celebrating with our whole selves.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: Friend, I hope you are loving and enjoying this Enea Christmas mini-series as much as I am.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: I've had a ton of fun getting my wholehearted coaches together and having these joy-filled, celebration-focused conversations.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: If you've been following this series, then you know first up we had the Enneagram 2, 3, and 4, those types that represent the heart triad.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: And then last week we had our friends in the head triad, the Enneagram 5, 6, and 7.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: So who is left?
1:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, our friends in the gut triad, known as the Enneagram 8, 9, and 1.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Each conversation has been so special and unique.
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SPEAKER_00: I think you'll find the same with this group of amazing women.
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SPEAKER_00: Just like the other conversations, they're going to be sharing what they feel they contribute to the celebration table, some of their hacks and tips about celebrating Advent with more ease.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: And then they're also going to be talking about something they are asking for this year that reflects their desire for growth, that upstream practice we like to talk about here at Simply Wholehearted.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: So this podcast is for you, whether you're an Enneagram 8, 9, or 1, whether you know an 8, 9, or 1, or you just want to enjoy some lighthearted fun and conversation to sprinkle in this Christmas season.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: Also, if you find yourself connecting with one of these amazing women, be sure and follow the links in the show notes so you can thank them for being on the podcast, but also so you can get to know them better.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: All right, let's get going on part three of this Anya Christmas celebration.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: Ladies, here we are.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: This Inea Christmas series has been so much fun.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: You all get to round us out to finish up 2024's Inea Christmas series.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm just so excited for my friends to get to meet you.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: So how about we just jump right in and I'll have you start by introducing yourself.
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SPEAKER_00: Let us know where you live, where in the world you are, and also kick us off with what you think your personality type brings to the table, whether you know it's a celebration table or what your unique dynamic offers during the celebration season.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: So I'm thinking we have 891.
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SPEAKER_00: I think for this question, I want to start off with Enneagram 8.
3:50
SPEAKER_03: Okay, Amy.
3:51
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, my name is Melanie Erickson, and I'm a type 8 wing seven.
3:56
SPEAKER_03: I live in northern Alberta, Canada, in the town of Athabasca.
4:00
SPEAKER_03: And uh what I bring to the table is it's not food.
4:05
SPEAKER_03: I bring decorating.
4:07
SPEAKER_03: And so uh what's important to me is the ambiance that I create.
4:12
SPEAKER_03: So it's what's on the table, the serviettes, the tablecloth, but I also bring in the fresh stuff from outdoors because that's my nature is to bring it from out in.
4:22
SPEAKER_03: So I have pine cones, I have cedar, I have birch trees and logs, and I have candles.
4:29
SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I create a mood.
4:32
SPEAKER_03: That's what I do.
4:32
unknown: Yeah.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: Melanie, what a vibe.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm totally coming to your house.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Or you can come to mine and help me decorate.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: Love it.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: It's so good.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: All right, we're going around up to the Enneagram 9.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, hi, my name is Cynthia, and I live in sunny Southern California in the city of Los Angeles.
4:57
SPEAKER_01: And I love the Christmas season because it's the time where I get to zone out and zone in into my DIYs.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: This is when the creative side of me comes out because there's so much going around me that I just need to focus on one thing that has nothing to do with work or ministry, but I could just be creative.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: And so I bring in all the DIY decorations like a Christmas wreath.
5:22
SPEAKER_01: And I handmake it myself.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, I believe what I bring to the table is I want everyone to be seen and heard and feel valued.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: For that reason, I always invite one or two persons that have no family that are alone and invite them over to the house and have a sense of community.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Cynthia, it's true.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: We were just chatting before I hit record about Thanksgiving plans because here we are recording before Thanksgiving.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: And sure enough, at your table is gonna be a couple of gals who need a place.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: So good.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh awesome.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: All right, we're gonna round us up with Enneagram one.
5:59
SPEAKER_02: Hello, hello.
6:00
SPEAKER_02: My name is Jasmine Washington.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm in the Dallas area, and I bring the organization.
6:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, everyone has gifts.
6:10
SPEAKER_02: I create a list of everyone who needs gifts.
6:13
SPEAKER_02: I buy them ahead of time.
6:15
SPEAKER_02: My husband jokes that he doesn't know what people are receiving until they actually open it because I take care of everything.
6:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we have matching pajamas.
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SPEAKER_02: So all of that is taken care of way before Christmas even happens.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I aspire to be that organized.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: And the only time you'll see that come out for me is when I'm super stressed and I realize I have three birthdays, three Christmases, and a dog that needs to be groomed.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: I just like to throw that in.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: Um and I've got too much to do.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: So I love it, Jasmine.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: It is so great.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: I really, every year I'm like, oh, I need to do that better.
6:58
SPEAKER_00: So, well, I'm so excited to have each one of you here and just thrilled to hear your answers.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm having so much fun because I have known you all for at least a couple of years.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: And so I'm just having fun having conversations about different things and getting to know you better.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: And even though we've shared a lot of life, this is just special to me.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: So I'm curious to know because again, I love learning from my friends.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: What is a system or hack or rhythm that has helped you with the holidays?
7:30
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're trying something new, or maybe you've just got this rinse and repeat organization, if you will.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: I have a feeling I know a couple of you who've got this dialed in.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear about it.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: So, but I think we need to start with the Enneagram nine.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: Cynthia, I think you should share with us.
7:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, because there's a lot of chaos during the holiday season.
7:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, people are traveling and who's coming over, who's not, where are the grandkids going to be?
7:58
SPEAKER_01: I want to be where the grandkids are at.
8:00
SPEAKER_01: So I take it one day at a time.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: What works for me in this Christmas holiday season is taking my day one day at a time.
8:10
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I even take it another step to like, I'm just going to stay in the moment and keep it one hour at a time.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: Because there's a lot of moving pieces.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: And so I need that piece.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: And so for me, that piece is staying in the moment.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm staying in this one hour, and this is what I'm going to focus on.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: And that has helped me so much so that I won't be all over the place.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: And so my frustration levels won't go from zero to 100 in a second.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: This is good.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: No sideway sandwich.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: I think this is such a good point because you, like so many of our friends, are juggling not only different family dynamics, right?
8:51
SPEAKER_00: But then you have grown kids who are coming back and forth, splitting time with the in-laws.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: And the, you know, like you said, you want to be around there with the grandbaby.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: So I love that the fluid and the flexibility that you have to be willing to go wherever.
9:05
SPEAKER_00: I think that's good.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: I think most of us, right?
9:07
SPEAKER_00: That is a probably a life lesson.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: Take it hour by hour, day by day, and all of that.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Melanie, how about you?
9:19
SPEAKER_00: What's your system, rhythm, or hack that you can share and enlighten us with?
9:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know me, Amy.
9:27
SPEAKER_03: So it's music.
9:29
SPEAKER_03: It's music.
9:30
SPEAKER_03: And um, I'll say it again, it's music.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, so what I do because of the intensity that I have and being a future-oriented person, I'm organized with a calendar to a point, but daily I have the music that calms me down, takes that intensity away, and it just puts me in a whole lighter sense of uh a mood for myself that it doesn't matter what kind, but generally what I like is chamber music and choral music.
9:57
SPEAKER_03: And I'm in a choir, and it actually just soes me.
10:01
SPEAKER_03: It just gets me a place of rest and of the present.
10:05
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I I do, I love absolute music.
10:07
SPEAKER_03: I've got a beautiful system in the house and one in my car, and that's what I do.
10:11
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: This is so good.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: Now, Melanie, I do know you.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: I didn't expect this answer, but I love it so much.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: It is really, there's a lot of wisdom in that.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: And just because Cynthia and Jasmine didn't get to witness, I have to just spill the tea and say, Melanie in our graduation event for the mentorship class three did a dance for us.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: And the hilarity of it is that we couldn't hear the music.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: And so she was dancing up a storm.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: It was the best.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: I finally just started dancing and and encouraged everyone else to join in, even though we couldn't hear the music, just dance like no one's watching, even though it was recorded, it was fantastic.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: So only for the eyes of mentorship class three, but uh it was great, a great memory for sure.
11:05
unknown: Uh I love that.
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SPEAKER_03: It was a lot of fun for me.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: It was so fun and uh beautiful memory.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take that and remind myself if I'm feeling a little amped up, hit the music, hit the play, play button.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: That's good.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: All right, Jasmine, round us up with your rhythm or hack or system that you want to pass along.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: Um definitely checklists.
11:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I could be without them.
11:31
SPEAKER_02: I know that that's the traditional expected answer, but I kind of like what Melanie was saying.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: And we definitely put on Christmas music when we're taking out all of the decorations and placing them and decorating the tree.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: So there's a lot of singing and dancing along with that.
11:52
SPEAKER_02: So it just makes the time pass quickly.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: So that is so good.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: I have a favorite, the Amy Grant Christmas album from I think it's 1978 or 79.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, that's what gets played.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: On the Alexa, of course, you know, not the record player like it was growing up.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: So that's my favorite.
12:15
SPEAKER_00: That's good.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear what is the most uh, you know, like your personality type thing that you've done this year.
12:24
SPEAKER_00: So what's the most enne eight, any gram nine, any gram one thing that you've done this year?
12:29
SPEAKER_00: And it, you know, I've always I've left it open.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: It can be fun, it can be something that was hard or serious or something silly.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: So I think Jasmine, I think you need to start this one.
12:41
SPEAKER_02: This one's hard for me because I think all of my answers have lined up with an Enneagram type one.
12:51
SPEAKER_02: So if you don't mind, I'm gonna answer the opposite.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: Hey, go for it.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: Have some fun with this, remember?
12:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: We're having fun.
12:59
SPEAKER_02: So these one of the hardest things for me was letting my lights be on before Thanksgiving.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: So I don't think that Christmas should happen before.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
13:12
SPEAKER_02: The person who put our lights up has it on a timer, and nobody knows how to fix the timer, and everyone's scared to unplug the timer because if we do, then we won't be able to get the lights back on.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: And so every day, as soon as it gets dark, my Christmas lights are on.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, let it go.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: Just let it go.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes, Melanie's dancing for us to let it go.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is good.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: This is good.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: And Jasmine, I absolutely believe in putting the Christmas lights up before Thanksgiving, the US Thanksgiving, because one, we celebrate it way too late for the record.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: Canada's got it smart.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: They celebrate in October.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: And then it's always cold, like it never fails.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: Thanksgiving happens and it is bitter freezing cold in Kansas City.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: The lights just need to go up beforehand.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, welcome to the dark side.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: I agree so much with Jasmine.
14:11
SPEAKER_01: It's like, can we just please celebrate Thanksgiving and then we'll do a Christmas?
14:16
SPEAKER_01: But this year has been the first time ever that I put my Christmas tree up.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: Thanksgiving.
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SPEAKER_01: It was so hard because I'm like, okay, there's too much chaos for Christmas.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: Can we just get over Thanksgiving?
14:31
SPEAKER_01: But because I'm traveling this year and I won't be back till the 15th of December, I said, no, I want to put my Christmas tree up so that I could enjoy it.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: And so it's been really hard for me, but I did something that I'm not used to and I'm okay with it.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
14:47
SPEAKER_00: This is good.
14:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm so okay with it.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is awesome.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, on that note, Cynthia, what's something that you have done this year?
14:55
SPEAKER_00: That clearly was a different thing.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: Anything that brings true for your Enneagram 9?
15:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, I believe what I've done this year, we've been very intentional of every three months taking time off for rest, where we stop, we rest, and we delight.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: And that has brought so much balance to our life versus when we just go, go, go, go, go.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: And then we're burnt out.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: Let's take time off.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: So we were intentional about adding every three months, some two, three days, maybe up to five days off.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: And that has brought so much balance and rest and peace in my life and in my home and my marriage.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: And my kids get the benefit of my the balance in their life.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's good.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: I think, Cynthia, that's what you bring to Javier, who's an intense AIDS, you know, senior pastor.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: You guys are leading a big church there in LA.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: And I love that you have invited him to that rhythm and you guys have done that.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: I've seen the fruit of that, especially over this year where you've faithfully done it.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: So kudos.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: I aspire to uh thank you.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: It's it's a challenge, even our dinner time where we would go and have dinner and he was just sit down and ready to eat.
16:04
SPEAKER_01: And I would tell him, Can you just calm down?
16:06
SPEAKER_01: Can we just have our appetizers?
16:08
SPEAKER_01: Can we take our time?
16:10
SPEAKER_01: And so, even teaching him how to slow down, he is now so grateful that he's enjoying dinners more instead of already thinking what I need to do next.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: And so that has brought a really great rhythm in our marriage.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Ah, so good.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: Love that.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: All right, Melanie, how about you?
16:25
SPEAKER_00: What's an Enneagram eight thing that you've uh done this year?
16:30
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so it's not different.
16:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, uh you pointed it out to me, Amy, because the more I look at all of the boards and every all the organizations that I belong to, and I'm a director, I'm an advocate for something in each and every one of those boards.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: And it's for kids and it's for marriages and it's for seniors and it's for homeless people and things like that.
16:49
SPEAKER_03: It never dawned on me until you said that.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: And so I will talk about my mom and the advocacy I've done with her specifically this year and actually right now still.
16:58
SPEAKER_03: So over a course of a time of her being ill, she's been in the hospital, and uh my experience hasn't been all that great with seniors not having a voice.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: And at mom didn't have a voice either, where the where she was this summer.
17:16
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I stepped in not knowing that she was actually there, and so I was her voice to under to just ask questions, what's going on, why she's there, what's the next step, is there a next step?
17:27
SPEAKER_03: And at at some point, mom was actually, she was really down, and I don't know if you know what the maid program is, but that was given to her, which is a medically assisted dying option, and I found out about it.
17:41
SPEAKER_03: So I stayed there for the the 27 hours to work with her to understand it, wasn't that's not what she wanted.
17:47
SPEAKER_03: She wanted someone to help her with her questions, she wanted someone to get her out of there, she wanted someone to answer her question, like she just needed someone to talk to.
17:56
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, so I I got her off that because they brought it in in the morning.
18:00
SPEAKER_03: I got her off that and stayed there, and then just helped her with getting out of the hospital.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: You know, and my sister and I have the different values on what care is, and so I brought forth my um proposal, and my sister brought hers, and within the system, it was up to mom to decide, and she decided not my option, which was fine.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: I give her credit for making the decision, and I was okay with it.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: And so in the meantime, I'm just doing what I can to honor where she is and what she's doing.
18:33
SPEAKER_03: But the the good news with all of that, she actually got out of there.
18:36
SPEAKER_03: So if I hadn't precipitated the momentum to do that, she'd still be there.
18:41
SPEAKER_03: And so wherever she is right now, still better than she was.
18:45
SPEAKER_03: Right now, I know I'm on her side too.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: She's just in a spot of needing someone to again be her voice.
18:51
SPEAKER_03: And I don't mind doing that.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: Confrontation is not easy for anybody, it's not that I love it, but if I can get what I need for someone else and get on the other side because of it, I will confront.
19:02
SPEAKER_03: So that's me.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: And that's what I do for my mom.
19:06
SPEAKER_03: I do it for anybody.
19:07
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: I've seen you go to bat again and again over these last several years.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: And Melanie, thank you for sharing that.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: That is a precious gift, and I know that's going to bless more than one person.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: So thank you for just sharing that piece of your heart, really, because that's what it is.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: And I've deeply admire your advocacy and just your spirit for fighting for those who can't fight for themselves.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: And you do that again and again.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: And what's beautiful about it is that I I know we had the conversation about this question, is that you just do it because that's who you are.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: It's so natural to you.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: Whereas most of us in this room would have to muster a lot of energy and strength and fortitude to do it.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: And you just do it.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: And that is so admirable.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, thank you for sharing that.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: That's beautiful.
19:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's when you look at the Enneagram and you hear those, you see the words protector and challenger and champion, and that's it.
20:06
SPEAKER_03: That's exactly those words resonate with me for sure.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, you embody them.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's good.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: Love it.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe in this spirit of growth, because we do love to talk about as wholehearted coaches that our starting point doesn't have to be our stuck point.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: So I love celebrating what we embody and who we are.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: But most of the coaches are sick of me saying, but maybe not, but just that our personality type isn't an excuse or a shield, right?
20:38
SPEAKER_00: We want to celebrate and rise to the highest level and we want to continue to grow.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: We want to also embody those other character traits, which ultimately is to reflect Christ-likeness because we are wanting to be more like him.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: So, in that line of thinking, what's something that is either a gift on your list or something that you did this year that is reflective of growth for your personality?
21:00
SPEAKER_00: Or maybe it's on the, I'm gonna do that in 2025 list.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: Anything goes.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, Cynthia, go for it.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, it's just sticking to my agenda.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: So for many years, I would buy them and I would do amazing January, February, March, then April, May, I forget about it.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: But by the time I would get to Christmas, it was long forgotten.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: And so I am so proud of myself because I was able to stick through my second year of using an agenda in a journal.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm not journaling every day as I should, but I at least I go to it when I'm having a rough moment.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: I go back to journaling.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: I go back to like I need to stick to my agenda, I need to stick to my schedule.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: And so for me, that's a lot of growth sticking to an agenda, sticking to my planner and journaling.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: It's brought so much growth.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: And I think you, Amy, because you've challenged me to journal and it hasn't been easy, and I don't like.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: I do, but it I see the benefit when I do.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: So thank you, Amy, for always challenging me.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: And the person I am today, my growth, honestly, Amy, is because of you.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: You have shifted my mindset, just the way I view not just myself, but ministry and business and my coaching business.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: It's where it's at because of you.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: And I just want to thank you and honor you for just changing the way I think.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh thank you, friend.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: I've I just was gonna say, I've seen you embrace the challenge since March of 23 to stick to a time schedule and even if it shifts every few months to be purposeful.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: And you have done that so well.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: So kudos to you.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, friend, for those kind words.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: It means a lot.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, how about we go to Melanie now?
22:50
SPEAKER_00: What do you got on that growth list?
22:53
SPEAKER_02: For growth?
22:55
SPEAKER_03: This is the fun part for me.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: This is the fun part.
22:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, honestly, for growth, just give me a book.
23:01
SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm sorry.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: Give me a book, give me a podcast, give me anything like that.
23:05
SPEAKER_03: And from a professional side, I'd like a new fertilizer spreader, a nice spade, and loppers that that don't, you know, squeeze tight like the real nice ones.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'd like.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_03: I bought myself a landscape trailer last month.
23:19
SPEAKER_03: I told Otto out about it and he picked it up for me.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: I had it all picked out in price.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: So I bought myself, auto bought myself what I wanted.
23:28
SPEAKER_03: So it was awesome.
23:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: This is so great.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: I know.
23:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, it's so me.
23:33
SPEAKER_03: And but I think for myself, honestly, a huge step would be me to go get a massage or go to a spa package.
23:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:43
SPEAKER_03: Just even the thought, you know, it's been 25 years since I've been uh told to do this, and it's just like okay.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, can you do this with you know fully clothed and a sleeping bag on?
23:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure, but it would be me.
23:58
SPEAKER_03: That's not that's where I'm at.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: Like, ooh, but oh my gosh, I don't know.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: So that would be a big step.
24:04
SPEAKER_03: But for myself, though, for a family, I think what I've decided is connection is my word.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: It's a word that it means something to everybody.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: But for me to literally connect one-on-one with my kids in their numbers that I've assessed to them, or at least I know their total interests.
24:20
SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, I have an adventure, uh I have a number seven, so I'll go skiing or golfing or do an adventure with her because we like that.
24:28
SPEAKER_03: I know I have a number um one, like the traditionalist, and so I will honor her with, you know, what she likes the most.
24:36
SPEAKER_03: And um as much as it's not what I like, but I'm going to do it for her and I'll let her call the cards, you know.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: And then and the other one is a romantic creative.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: And so I thought we could go, you know, quilting show or whatever, we'll go for tea, and you know, like and then I have a Joker Well Child.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: He's just a Well Child, yeah.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, he should have been a comedian and he's out in the bush working.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: So I I I think we'll do core blonde or I don't know.
25:06
SPEAKER_03: Whatever it is, I'm sure I'll wear my hat sideways and I just hope it'll all be legal.
25:13
SPEAKER_03: Yes, me too.
25:15
SPEAKER_03: This is well, that's basically and for Otto and myself.
25:18
SPEAKER_03: Like, I would love to go on a marriage retreat because I'm a learner.
25:22
SPEAKER_03: So if we could do that, like just learn and do and have some structure and and spend time, you know, because it says now go and talk with each other and do this thing, I think it'd be super.
25:33
SPEAKER_03: So that's what I've got on my bucket list.
25:35
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Melanie, this is great.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: I would pop to my mind is a marriage retreat cruise that offers massage.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: So I think I think the grimace is good.
25:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't like cruises either.
25:51
SPEAKER_03: I want to go to Alaska, but how do I get up there?
25:53
SPEAKER_03: I guess I'll have to walk.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: I know that's the one thing.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: So my husband doesn't like cruises either, but I'm like, I really want to explore Alaska.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: Can you make an exception to the rule for the cruise?
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like that's the best way to see Alaska.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: But you know, anyway.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: But you could take, you know, do that next year or two, and then send me the cliff notes and maybe I can recreate.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Melanie, thank you.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: That was awesome.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: All right, Jasmine.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: How about you?
26:20
SPEAKER_00: What's on that list?
26:22
SPEAKER_02: Um being present.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm really focused on not hurrying and spending time and connecting with my kids and my husband and doing whatever they want to do and not having a strict schedule and just being, and that is pretty hard for me to do because I'm like, oh, there's time.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: I should be reading a book, I should be doing this, I should be working on that.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: But I really um have taken a back seat just in working on my business and working in general, and really set boundaries to okay, this is cut off work time, and now it's just family time, and we're not going to let anything interfere with that.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: So just being really intentional about doing whatever they want to do.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: That's so good.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: What a gift.
27:21
SPEAKER_00: And when you've got kiddos at home, it's the best thing that you can give.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: I love that, Jasmine.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm proud of you because it's hard.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: You are a woman with many dreams and many desires and to focus there where you're so needed.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: It's a big one.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: I have an appointment.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: I have a coloring appointment after this.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: We we're supposed to go color a picture.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: So perfect.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: This is great.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: This is so good.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so sweet.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, here we are.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: These conversations have been going so fast in my mind.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm just loving them.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: Again, it it feels a little bit self-indulgent, but I think everyone else is going to enjoy them as much as I am.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: So I'd love to round out this conversation as we end with your favorite holiday decoration.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: What is it?
28:07
SPEAKER_00: What's the story behind it?
28:09
SPEAKER_00: I kind of said, you know, my it's not really like while I decorate what I'm listening to.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of a thing.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: So far, Christmas trees have been a big theme.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see today what it is for everyone else.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: So let's see.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: Any mini mini mo?
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and start with jasmine and we'll work our way back down to the eight.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: We'll go the opposite direction.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's gotta be the lights because they're organized, they're straight, they're colorful, they don't really get messed up, you know, with younger kids and Christmas trees and ornaments.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: I try to really hands off and not put the ornaments, like move them so that they're equally placed.
28:56
SPEAKER_02: So the lights bring me such joy, like driving in the neighborhoods and just seeing the organized uh lights.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: And then they're not falling down, nobody's messing them up.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: It's perfect.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: That's great.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: That is so great.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: I have to admit, my morning walk and jogs are so much more fun this time of year.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Where because it's still dark out when I'm going.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: So the fact that people have their lights up, I'm like, yes, yeah, this makes it more fun.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: So then dinner.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's great.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: All right, Cynthia, how about for you?
29:31
SPEAKER_01: So for me, it's the Christmas wreath, and every year I repurpose it.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Every year I have a theme, and so I need to get inspired by something I see or a movie I watch or colors.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: And so I repurpose my Christmas wreath every year.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: This year it's a Grinch mess.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: And so I've had this wreath for about four years that I've been repurposing.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: And right when you think it's so old, I should get rid of it.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: I said no, I could still make it beautiful and just to see how something that was getting ready to be thrown out could be repurposed and I could bring so much life to it if I just continue to work on it.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: And so I Christmas wreath is definitely the first thing I pull out and start to repurpose and give it life.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that is so fun.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm inspired.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: I have a fall wreath like that, but I think I might need to make my own Christmas wreath this year and start a tradition.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: This is good.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: And no one helps me.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: I do it on my own.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't want no one to help me.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: I don't want no one involved.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't want no one's opinion.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do it the way I want to do it.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: And I I am gonna ask, you gotta send a picture of it because this Gritchmas wreath.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: It's this is good.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Definitely send it to the group.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's awesome.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: All right, Melanie, finish us up here.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: What is that decoration for you?
30:50
SPEAKER_03: It's all about the lights, all about the lights.
30:52
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: The songs all about the lights.
30:55
SPEAKER_03: Jasmine, you're not gonna like what I'm gonna say because I got a cat, and I tell you, those lights don't stay straight, those lights don't stay in the same place twice.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: They just do not.
31:04
SPEAKER_03: But yes, that can be.
31:05
SPEAKER_03: It's all about the lights.
31:07
SPEAKER_03: It's all about the lights because of the sparkle and the color.
31:10
SPEAKER_03: And my designs are never the same, and they are round.
31:15
SPEAKER_03: I don't do harsh angles or anything like that.
31:18
SPEAKER_03: So I go around a tree, or I don't go around a tree, and then I'll go up and down.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: I do a lot of vertical.
31:23
SPEAKER_03: My husband thinks I should be going around horizontally, like you know, and spiraling, but I do a lot of vertical, I do a lot of up and down, and he anyway.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: But where my mom is, it's just gorgeous.
31:34
SPEAKER_03: Like she has the most beautiful view of a thousand lights on these trees of all different colors.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: And I I'm all about stars.
31:42
SPEAKER_03: I've always been a stargazer, and so that's basically what it reminds me of, even if they're different colors, but the white lights themselves, so I don't know, it just sparks energy in me and gives me that that whole light-heartedness that goes with Christmas and um uh does I bought color.
32:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean, design is color, God created color, and I just emulated at Christmas.
32:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't decorate my Christmas trees.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Like I have trees in my house all over the place to make them inside.
32:12
SPEAKER_03: I don't decorate them, I just bring the outside in, and then I put white lights a little bit on them, and then I put all the colored lights outside.
32:20
unknown: Yeah.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: I love this.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, this is so fun.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: It's so fitting and it makes so much sense knowing you.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is great.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be posting the question at some point on Instagram this month about are you a white light person or colored light person?
32:37
SPEAKER_00: So I'll be curious to see what the verdict is.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: I love already we know Melanie, inside white, outside color.
32:44
SPEAKER_03: This is great.
32:45
SPEAKER_03: And for Jasmine, I don't do red, green, red, green, like you know, you know how you alternate.
32:49
SPEAKER_03: I just do the colors everywhere, you know, like Joseph and his coat.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm just all over the place.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: So this is great.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: That's fine as long as they're, you know, uniform, stray.
33:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:02
SPEAKER_03: But you come to my house, Jasmine.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: You'll be you'll be out of control.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, that's too much work.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: I'll just do the lights on the tree because outside that's too much work.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: This is great.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
33:16
SPEAKER_02: I Melanie, I also like the ambiance that the lights give.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: So you do not have to turn on a light switch at all, and you still have that sort of glow.
33:29
SPEAKER_02: And I love that the mood.
33:31
SPEAKER_00: It's all about the mood.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: It's all about the mood.
33:35
SPEAKER_03: If you pick a warm white, you can pick different colors of bulbs.
33:38
SPEAKER_03: If you picked a warm white bulb, you get more of that that yellowy gold hue.
33:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and not a gray blue hue.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, like I said, I'm ready for Molinay to come down and help me decorate.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: So I'll plug it in.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: It won't be, it won't be the the the Christmas where all the light bulbs blow up, but it'll be fine.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's great.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh, ladies, friends, this has been so awesome.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is a challenge.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: My friends have got to know it's hard to get four of us all here in a room to record, and we did it.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: And this was so fun.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: So thanks to each of you for this beautiful conversation.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: And there's really nothing much more to say except for have a very Merry Christmas.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: I've loved the dynamic with each group here of whole-hearted coaches.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: They are incredible women who truly love the Lord and are living out their whole-hearted journey authentically and love helping others along the way.
34:46
SPEAKER_00: So, was there anything that stood out to you in this conversation?
34:49
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was something someone said that you go, oh yeah, that's totally me too.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: Or you know someone who does the same thing or is asking for the same thing.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you got some inspiration on how to love someone in that type or gift them or encourage them.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: There are so many great takeaways from this time of conversation.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: Now, if you've enjoyed this series and it has added lots of fun to this season for you, I hope you'll take a minute and share this conversation and maybe even this series with some of your friends.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: I am guessing as your girlfriends are doing their thing, whether they're headed off to the office, the carpool line, or wrapping last minute Christmas gifts, I know they'll appreciate having some of this joy and lightheartedness in their earbuds.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: So don't hesitate and share some of this fun with them today.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: Next week, we're continuing the Advent series with some breath prayers.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: And instead of taking a break, we're continuing our conversations that will help orient our hearts to the reason for the season and also help prepare us for this next year ahead.
36:15
SPEAKER_00: So until next time, remember we are all broken, we are all blowing it.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: It's the brave one who does something about it.