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Ukraine; Venezuela; Pardons; Trump's Indecency; Settler Violence; Waymo; China | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: So over the weekend, the Ukrainians sent over a delegation
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  Speaker 1: to meet just like the Russians had in Miami. Miami
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  Speaker 1: is the place to be.
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  Speaker 2: In Miami.
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  Speaker 1: It's a meet and to discuss a peace agreement with
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  Speaker 1: the Russians. And they spent whole weekend and they met
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  Speaker 1: with Rubio and wit Cough and Jared Kushna. Jared Kushner,
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  Speaker 1: the President's son in law that has Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know Jared Kushner. You know, I don't know exactly what
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  Speaker 1: his role is, but Jared Kushner, who got the AVAM
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  Speaker 1: accords going so has gained a lot of from polse
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  Speaker 1: chops from that.
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  Speaker 2: And of course the Jared Kushner that is uh.
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  Speaker 1: Seems to squeeze out quite a few billions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: into his funds and stuff like that from all these dealings.
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  Speaker 1: So the Jared Kushner together with Wikoff, who are also
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  Speaker 1: very much entangled with the Russians and all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: business propositions and potential business partnerships. So yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we know, you know Whitcoff told the Wall See Journal.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Russia has many vast resources, vast expenses of land,
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  Speaker 1: and it would be great, you know, to have deals
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  Speaker 1: with him, right, So we talked about Witcoff is in
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  Speaker 1: his relationship with Russia is very friendly. Relationship with Russia
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  Speaker 1: is clear pro Russian stance. I think we can say
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  Speaker 1: the same thing probably with Jared Kushna.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, Ukrainian.
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  Speaker 1: Corruption only goes so far, you know, in a sense
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  Speaker 1: of feeding these people like that.
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  Speaker 2: That was good enough for Hunter Biden to be on a.
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  Speaker 1: Board in Ukraine, and I don't know, get a couple
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  Speaker 1: of million dollars or whatever that was. But Kushia and
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  Speaker 1: Witcoff are not going for a few millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: They're going for billions or nothing at all. So they're
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  Speaker 1: much more likely to be pro Russia. Anyway, they met,
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  Speaker 1: they negotiated a bunch of stuff, supposedly prospects of a landswap.
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine does not want a permanent settlement in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that it does not want international recognition of the land
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  Speaker 1: that Russia has it invaded, and it's taken from Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: since really twenty fourteen and in particularly twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's still I don't think it's worked out,
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  Speaker 1: security guarantees.
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  Speaker 2: Membership of NATO.
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine is still objecting to a lot of these things,
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  Speaker 1: but some progress has been made on some things they
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  Speaker 1: clean right, you know, Rubio is clearly here a bulwark
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  Speaker 1: against the kind of pro the explicitly pro Russia portion
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  Speaker 1: of the US government. Right now, remember that all of
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  Speaker 1: this was supposed to be done before Thanksgiving. Trump put
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  Speaker 1: a deadline, and I think then Ruber got involved and
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  Speaker 1: calmed everything down and slowed everything up.
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  Speaker 2: But Rubio's trying to get.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to get Ukraine's concerns on the table. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Wikoff and kushnak one iota about the Ukrainians. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Trump cares about the Ukrainians. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: Rubio against the trump Ists.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how this is going to turn out.
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  Speaker 1: Kushna and Wikoff are flying to Russia today to continue
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  Speaker 1: he talks with the Russians. Witcoff is supposed to meet
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  Speaker 1: with Putin next week. Last time he met with Putin,
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  Speaker 1: he completely got the offer that Putin made wrong, and
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  Speaker 1: the consequence of that meeting with Putin was the disastrous
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  Speaker 1: meeting between Trump and Putin in Alaska. But Trump continues
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  Speaker 1: to trust Whitcoff. They've got some good deals going together.
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  Speaker 1: And in spite of the Wickcoff phone call being intercepted
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  Speaker 1: and leaked and revealed and Witcuff setting up the Russians
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  Speaker 1: on how to deal with Trump, Trump doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: care about those things. Yeah, I mean, he's all in
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  Speaker 1: with Whitcuff. He's all in with this administration. He noticed
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't replaced many of his people. Nothing is competed.
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  Speaker 1: The first to first, uh, you know, run of of
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  Speaker 1: Trump as president, where there was a lot of change,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in the from policy and national security side, now
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  Speaker 1: there isn't a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. And Trump seems to be playing.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Marco Rubio against Kushna and Witcuff and and seeing
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  Speaker 1: how that plays out.
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  Speaker 2: But generally I am worried.
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  Speaker 1: I'm worried because it definitely seems like uh Trump and
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  Speaker 1: uh uh and the uh and Witcuff thoroughly pro Russia.
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  Speaker 1: They want to get this over with. They'd like to
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  Speaker 1: find a way to squeeze Ukraine without upsetting too many
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  Speaker 1: people in Congress and without upsetting maybe some of the Europeans,
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  Speaker 1: and finding a way to do it. I doubt that
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  Speaker 1: that's possible, but uh, you know, they keep they keep
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  Speaker 1: at it, they keep trying. My guess is Putin is
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  Speaker 1: going to say no to all the changes that Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: has made in the plan. You know, Putin wants this
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  Speaker 1: word to go on or to get everything he wants.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Putin can afford a deal that he.
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  Speaker 1: Can't present to the Russian people's total victory, and therefore
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  Speaker 1: he has to keep going. Yeah, I mean Putin has
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  Speaker 1: said when Ukrainian troops leave the territories they hold Ukrainian territories.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at it, then the fighting will stop. If they don't,
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  Speaker 1: then we'll achieve that through military means.
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  Speaker 2: You know. The reality is to the other way around.
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  Speaker 1: When the Russians leave the territory that's not theirs, when
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  Speaker 1: they send their troops home, then there will be peace.
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  Speaker 1: But Trump is going with the Ukrainian side, or at
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  Speaker 1: least flirting with that, not willing to put any pressure
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  Speaker 1: on Russia. We talked about that, no tariffs on Russia.
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  Speaker 1: Really the sanctions are you know, could be much tougher
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  Speaker 1: that they're not that tough. And Trump keeps winking and
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  Speaker 1: nodding towards Putin. He keeps supporting Putin, he keeps supporting
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  Speaker 1: peace deals that get Puts In everything he wants. And
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  Speaker 1: he clearly doesn't like Ukraine and he doesn't like Zelenski.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, they really it's just a it's just
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  Speaker 1: a phone policy disaster. And for those of you, again
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  Speaker 1: who don't know what's what's in it for the United States,
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  Speaker 1: what's in it for the United States? Isn't it in
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  Speaker 1: the United States is a member of NATO. The United
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  Speaker 1: States is committed to the defense of Europe.
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  Speaker 2: One way or the other.
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  Speaker 1: You want to get out of NATO, get out of NATO,
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  Speaker 1: but for now we're in NATO. A Russian victory in
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  Speaker 1: these negotiations over Ukraine will only in bold in Russia
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  Speaker 1: to go after NATO members, and then that involves the
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  Speaker 1: Unit States. It puts the United States at war with Russia.
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  Speaker 1: Russia is, has been and is a at the very
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  Speaker 1: least a potential enemy of the United States, if an
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  Speaker 1: an explicit enemy of the United States. Russia challenges the
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  Speaker 1: United States and all of our agendas around the world,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, pandering to them is an absolute, unmitigated disaster.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is, as much as you might not like Europe,
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  Speaker 1: Europe are the United States allies. Europe generally support the
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  Speaker 1: United States in terms of its I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: the United States wants to do in the world, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that part of Western civilization, and Russia is
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  Speaker 1: an enemy of Western civilization, so you know, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to go to war with Russia. Nobody wants to
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  Speaker 1: go to the war with Russia because of nuclear power
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  Speaker 1: and nuclear bombs. But the argument is the way to
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  Speaker 1: avoid war with Russia for the United States is.
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  Speaker 2: Going all out into support of Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I have to keep repeating this,
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  Speaker 1: but it seems like people just just.
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  Speaker 2: Want to support Russia.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want the United States supporting Ukraine. They don't
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  Speaker 1: want the United States involved in international stuff unless Trump
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  Speaker 1: wants it.
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  Speaker 2: Like in Venezuela, which we'll get to in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, in Ukraine, the regime is being rattled
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  Speaker 1: again by more corruption investigations. Corruption investigations that are people
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  Speaker 1: close to Zelenski. Corruption investigations that led to Zelenski's top
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  Speaker 1: aid and chief negotiator with the Americans around this peace
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  Speaker 1: deal to you know, investigators actually searching his home and
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  Speaker 1: forcing him to so a corruption scandal is getting very
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  Speaker 1: close to Zelensky and certainly people within Zelensky's orbit. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of people are kind
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  Speaker 1: of freaking out giving Ukraine money and we're supporting Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: and look how corrupt they are.
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  Speaker 2: And this is and the reality is that these corruption investigations.
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  Speaker 1: Are a really good thing. There's a sign that Ukrainians
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  Speaker 1: are interested in and open to cleaning shop getting rid
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  Speaker 1: of corruption. It's an incredibly corrupt regime has been historically
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  Speaker 1: as all Eastern European regimes are former Eastern European regimes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, some of them are much much.
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  Speaker 1: Better, like Czech Republic and Poland, but others, mainly a
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  Speaker 1: Bulgaria and so on, are quite corrupt. And the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they're cleaning up, and the fact that that Zelensky
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  Speaker 1: is willing to let this commission keep investigating even as
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  Speaker 1: it's getting close to his own, you know, his own people,
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  Speaker 1: is a good sign. It's a good sign. It's a
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  Speaker 1: sign that Zelensky is willing to let this happen. I imagine, imagine, imagine.
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  Speaker 2: This happening in Russia.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Putin might be the most corrupt politician in
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  Speaker 1: all of human history.
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  Speaker 2: Is just in terms of the sheer.
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  Speaker 1: Magnitude of the amount of money he has stolen from
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  Speaker 1: the Russian treasury. We're talking about potentially hundreds of billions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars. Nobody really knows the amount of money that
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  Speaker 1: Putin has tucked away.
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  Speaker 2: In various plays around the world. And you know, he
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  Speaker 2: is untouchable.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna investigate corruption in the Russian government.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you do, if you try, if you begin.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what happens. I mean, I'm just guessing. I don't know, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's just speculation. We're just speculating here on your own bookshow.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you probably fall out of a window. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's suicide, and you probably stab yourself on the
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  Speaker 1: way down between between the eyes, but you probably fall
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  Speaker 1: out of the window. So there's much much, much much
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  Speaker 1: much much much much much much more.
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  Speaker 2: Corruption in Russia than there is in Ukraine. And Russia
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  Speaker 2: is not investigated.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you're an American, you might say, well, if
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  Speaker 1: you're you're Peon, you might say, yeah, but Russia is
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  Speaker 1: not taking all money Ukraine is. And that's true, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why we should encourage the investigation. We should support it,
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  Speaker 1: and we should you know, celebrate the fact that these
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  Speaker 1: investigations are going on, and that as we continue to
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  Speaker 1: support Ukraine, if we do, the likelihood of corruption in
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  Speaker 1: high places is going to go down because we have
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  Speaker 1: a government there that is committed to trying to weed
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  Speaker 1: out weed out corruption. So you know, in in in China,
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  Speaker 1: for example, corruption is often used.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, China's a very corruptus very corrupt iie.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the members of the Communist Party and people
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  Speaker 1: in positions of power cyphon a lot of the money
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  Speaker 1: to their own pockets, and there are many of them
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  Speaker 1: are kind of the neu vau rich in the new rich.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's new rich in Russia.
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  Speaker 1: Really in China, but many of them are rich in China,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, it's.
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  Speaker 2: In China.
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  Speaker 1: Corruption investigations also also used to root out opponents of
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  Speaker 1: the current leader. Right, she has mastered this, but a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it is corruption. I mean it does seem
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  Speaker 1: like here it's getting very close to Zelenski. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not about rooting out opposition, it's about really finding people
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  Speaker 1: who are engaged in siphening off money that is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to go to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, to actually buy weapons systems and help.
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  Speaker 1: The Ukrainian economy and so on, and the siphoning off
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  Speaker 1: to their own pockets in one way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: So good for the investigation.
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  Speaker 1: It's sad that there's this much corruption in a place
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  Speaker 1: at war like Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: Is you think that during war.
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  Speaker 1: People would rise above these issues corruption turns out, no,
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  Speaker 1: corruption is so endemic in some of these cultures, and
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  Speaker 1: in this case, in the culture of of Ukraine, that
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  Speaker 1: even during a war it persists. It persists, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I'll keep you updated. There's the yoyo
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  Speaker 1: that is Ukraine Russia, piece deal Trump witkof all this
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  Speaker 1: stuff is just continue. It is interesting, isn't it that
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  Speaker 1: Rubio is not going to Russia.
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  Speaker 2: Rubio is not going to Russia. Interesting?
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, the special Envoy like Whitcoff is
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  Speaker 1: Special Envoy to Russia.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Special.
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  Speaker 1: Envoy for Ukraine resigned a week or two ago uh
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  Speaker 1: and is leaving his post and Sankley who will fill
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  Speaker 1: that role?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I think it might be a Secretary of the Army.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and And it is interesting because he was very
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: pro Ukraine, and maybe that's why he's leaving, because nobody
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  Speaker 1: will listen to him in the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, the entire argument for Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: Is now in you know, Rubio is it, And there's
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  Speaker 1: nobody else in the Trump administration has any I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, we know we know that Vance is definitely anti Ukraine, right,
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  Speaker 2: so there's just no voice there, all right, Moving on
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the farm party arc, moving from Ukraine to Venezuela.
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  Speaker 1: As we've talked about, the United States has a sizeable
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: military force in the Caribbean Sea. Indeed, the largest military
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: force the United States has had in the Caribbeans. UH
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  Speaker 1: since since the Cuban missile crisis. We've got the largest
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  Speaker 1: aircraft carrier in the US that the US has or
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  Speaker 1: in the world really, which is the USS Ford.
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  Speaker 2: It is in the Caribbean.
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  Speaker 1: UH. It is accompanied, of course by a whole variety
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  Speaker 1: of other ships and and assets. We have recommissioned both
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  Speaker 1: the naval base and I think IFO strips in Puerto Rico,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a real military presence in Puerto Rico. You
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: can fly F thirty fives and IF sixteen from Puerto
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  Speaker 1: Rico to Venezuela pretty easily above and beyond those who
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: can land and take off from the aircraft carrying and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of course you can fly B two's from anywhere in
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the United States and with fueling. You can find any
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  Speaker 1: number of airplanes from the US to Venezuela with fueling
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  Speaker 1: in between. So the Anit States has a real significant presence,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like it's going to do anything
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: Once in a while, Trump seems to threaten.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of indicated maybe he was closing Venezuela's airspace
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a few days ago, and then nothing really happens, so
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it wasn't really closed.
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  Speaker 2: It's not what happened there.
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  Speaker 1: But he seems to go in and out of We're
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: gonna go in there and crush them, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we'll now, maybe we'll kind of deal.
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  Speaker 2: Let me talk to m a duo, maybe door can leave.
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  Speaker 1: And again there are two really two elements, it seems
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  Speaker 1: within the Trump administration pushing for two different approaches to Venezuela.
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  Speaker 1: One approach is Trump's approach, which I think is also
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  Speaker 1: is backed up by a guy named Richard Grennell who
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: is a long time being associated with Trump and has
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: been Trump's guy Visa VI Venezuela since Trump's first administration
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and Trump and Grunell's approaches make a deal, let's make
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a deal.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Let's make a deal.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And the essential there is we want to access and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it's suckily a we here is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: It the Trump family.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but it's the United States, US OL companies,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: US companies and maybe the Trump family. We want to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: access to the vast resources that Venezuela has. Remember, Venezuela
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: is sitting on the the largest reserve oil reserve in
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the world. It's it's bigger than Saudi Arabia. It's bigger
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: than what the US has. So Valancoila has the largest
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: oil reserve in the world. It can't access it or
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it accesses very difficult.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So it's very expensive for them to access.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: It because they don't have the technology, they don't the capital,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: they don't know the wherewithal to get to the oil.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: The oil is primarily offshore in the.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: In the Gulf of fill in the blank, Venezuela, the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Gulf of America, the Gulf of Mexico.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Uh and uh.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: You know Trump once wants that now, you know, I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: think in his first administration and maybe even now, one
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: tendency has is maybe we can just cut a deal
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: with a do or we don't have to get rid
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of him.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: We'll just cut a deal. We'll get access to the oil.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: He'll promise us he'll give us something and and and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: uh and that is it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That is it. And it continues to he continues to
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: do that, continues to I think floot with that option. Right.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I love it when when people in my chat, you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: know Trump inside out and know exactly what his next
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: move is.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: He's playing three D chess. Guys.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's a smoke screen. He's he's not gonna go in.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I agree, he's not going to coin. So that's like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: goell and Trump. They want. Actually toppling the governor of
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Venezuela is really easy, really easy. But Trump won't do it,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: partially because he promised his base that he wouldn't start
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: new wars, partially because generals and phone policy people. In
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: spite of the fact that I think toppling a government
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is really easy, people believe it's really really really hard,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: including all the phone polsy gus and all these people
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: who think it's really really really hot. You know you are,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: but you rock is. If everything is you rock is.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: If you've got one example, then you can fit everything
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: in there. It's actually quite easy, particularly if you're willing
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to actually engage in in assassination. But although they might
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: be a law that prevents America from engaging in assassination,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you could change the law. But he wants he wants
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a deal, and that's good album. On the other hand,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you've got the same guys before Marco Rubio. Maybe what
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: we need his witcuff. We really need whitcuff. Whitcuff should
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: solved the Venezuelan problem. I think Whitcuff is the guy. Anyway,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: You've got Marco Rubio and Marco Ubius from Florida form
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: senator to Florida.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That's his base. Uh.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You know, he has a lot of support in Miami
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: from Cuban and Venezuela and exiles who live in Miami,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and Marco Rubia's basically taken this made it his goal
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to get rid of a duo and maybe even use
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that as a stepping zone to get rid of the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: regime in Cuba and act bring about a revolution in Cuba.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think it would be hard with Maduro.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I think all you have to really do with Maduro
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: is scare the Jesus out of him. And I think
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that's what the US is trying to do. It's trying
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to scare him. It's trying to scare him into ultimately
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: cutting a deer.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: He just leaves.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And let the opposition take over, although of course if
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he leaves, it's not clear who will take over. It
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: could be another military dictator who takes over. But you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: want to scare the whole leadership there so that they
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: allow the opposition to take control over Venezuela. And actually,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you know, set it up for a proper election. But
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you know, so Marco Rubio has come up with the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: strategy of using this idea of Maduro as some sort
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of drug lord. Venezuela is not a primary player in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the drug in drugs, although it is a place where
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: drugs are being transited, but not to the United States.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Venezuela and drugs and you know, drugs going through Venezula
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and not coming to the US. Venezuela and drugs are
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: getting going on ships and going to Africa.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: They're picked up in Africa pinarily.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: By the way, by Islamists, by remnants of Achaia and Isis,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and they're taken to Europe. Most of the drugs that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: travel through Venezuela are going to Europe and need Europe
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: has a massive cocaine problem. Now, cocaine usage of Europe,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about this on a show a few weeks ago,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: has gone through the roof has escalated dramatically. Anyway, Rubio
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: has couched Maduro as a drug kingpin that is killing
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Americans with drugs. As a consequence, Trump has brought the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: whole you know this, this big portion of US Navy
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: into the Caribbean. They are blowing ships, boats, not even
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: ships boats out of the water. So far, they've killed
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: sixty five people in sixteen attacks with exactly zero presented
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: evidence in terms.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Of who they are.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But even if they're drug lords, even if they're smuggling drugs,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: they're not smuggling them to the US because these boats
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: are too small, they could never get to the US,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that have to refuel twenty times, twenty times on the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: way to get to the US.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: So they're not smuggling the drugs to the US. So,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: you know, who knows who.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: These people are that are getting blown out of the water.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Who knows what are they doing. Maybe they're in drugs,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: maybe they're not. But they pose exactly zero threats to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the US. And yet we're killing. No congressional authorization, no
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: quote of law, nothing, just killing.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: We'll get it there in a minute.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And you know, generally using the killing as a threat
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to Maduro to leave or or else. And of course
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the whole acrect carry and all of that is just
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to try to intimidate Maduro into living. Maduro is not
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that you get to leave. He's got a pretty well
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: in Venezuela. It's not clear where he would go to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: maybe Russia. I don't think other South American leaders want
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: him there. It's also not clear who is, you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: who comes after Maduro and if he leaves, what happens
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and whether Venezuela becomes a you know, just a mayhem.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It so so exactly what's going on in the background
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and what happens in these conversations is is very hard
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to tell, right, very hard to tell. And but this
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: ongoing debate within the Trump administration about deals, deals in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: which Trump can somehow benefit from and in the US
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: benefit farm or military reaction, and it really does seem
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: like Trump.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Doesn't want to get involved in military action.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Again, he did promise, you know, he did promise not
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to start new words. I mean, he is a one
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Trump supporter. When somebody in the administration says President Trump
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Trump ran on an agenda of America First. Unfortunately people
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in his administration, I'm more focused on a South Florida
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: first agenda. So where this leads, where we go from
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: here is going to be really hard to tell. But
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you know, again, you've got two different interests at play.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: It would be great to see Maduro fall. It would
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: be great to see the Cuban regime fall and both
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: countries moved towards a greater freedom. Whether American troops should
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: be be live should be risked in order to achieve that,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I say no.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: If there are ways to eliminate.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Maduro and overthrow the Cuban regime without American troops putting their.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Lives in danger, yeah, I guess I'm all for that, But.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: We will see if that is possible and if that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: is the path that is taken. So yeah, I mean,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I have no problem with regime change. I'm all for
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: regime changes.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: If they are evil regimes, but only.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You know, if they don't pose a threat to American lives.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: The change itself doesn't pose the threat to American lives
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: except in the case of enemy countries, countries that are enemies. Yeah,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that's the job of the American soldier is to fight
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: our enemies. So Iran, you can imagine the US launching
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: an attack to a place it's leadership North Korea, sorry,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: North Korea.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You can imagine that. So we will see, we will see.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, those are not going to happen because
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: they're too self interested. Madua might happen, but of course,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: one of the one of the ways in which Rubio
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: manipulates Trump on this issue is.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: By claiming the Meduro.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Is using mass migration northward into the United States to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: destabilize America, and that of course MAGA and Trump cannot tolerate,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and that of course gives you know, gives impetus to
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Trump to.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Try to really really get rid of Maduro.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So if you can link Madua to illegal immigration, the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the the the number one enemy of Americans according to Trump,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: then maybe military action will be justified.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Also relating to, you know, to what is going on
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in UH, that is it's okay in the Caribbean.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Is the story that that broke by the Washington Post,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I think over the weekend that has been denied by
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration and denied by Secretary of War heck
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Seth Uh by which the Washington Post claimed that hex
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Seth had actually had issued an order to kill.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Boat crews.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: So that in in the I think it was the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: first attack on one of these boats, you know, the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: first bomb that hit the boat, destroyed the boat, killed
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: some of the people in the boat, but a drone
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: identified two survivors clinging.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: On to debris UH and still alive.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: And then because of hag Seth's general command to kill them,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: kill everybody on the boat, not just.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: To stop the voat, but to kill them.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Of course, you can stop the boat without killing anybody
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: if you know, as law enforcement would do.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: His command is to kill everybody.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I supposely this is Washington Post that a second bomb
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: was dropped, killing the two survivors, and people are freaking
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: out over this. Congress wants an investigation. A lot of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Republicans are saying this is going too far. I mean,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: only Republican who's been good on the bombing of boats
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and killing people has been Rand Paul. It's really been
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: despicable to see that Congress has not made a much
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: bigger issue about this. I think Democrats feel like it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not a winning prop It's not a winning issue. Americans
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: really care about killing brown people in the middle of
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the Caribbean Sea on boats, and they trust the army
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: only to kill drug dealers. Bet this idea that Heset
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: might have given an order to kill everybody is something
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that I think horrifi is a lot of people, and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: there is some pushback against administration.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Heset denies it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Trump has expressed full support for Heseth, and so far
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Hecseth has survived all his little crises and is hanging on.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But you can imagine Hecseth saying something like that.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I suppose he was a verbal command, kill them all.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I want no survivors. It fits into his warrior mindset
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: that he wants the military to have, at least his interpretation.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Of warrior mindset.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So it's not crazy to believe that he actually said it,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: but so farther denying it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I have no insert information. I don't know.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I just think it's system with his mindset, and there
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: is with his kind of the way he speaks and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the way he acts. Uh.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And there is growing, growing.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Questioning in Capitol Hill, and you know, in Congress about this.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe some Republicans are feeling a little uneasy us about
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: blowing up random boats on on on on the Caribbean.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: C uh and and and maybe they'll they'll do some investigating.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll no, they won't stand up for Trump about this.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: It just ain't happening. Congress is dead. We have a
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you know, two branches of the government that function right now,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and that's the President and the and the and the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: legal branch and the courts and the courts seem to
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: try to slow down Trump, but there's only so much
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: they can do without Congress. But Congress is basically impotent
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and in default and and and you know, doing nothing,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: doing nothing right, philosophical detective says, the more I analyze
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the issue, the more it becomes it becomes clear that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: legalizing drugs would eliminate most of the associated problems.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're evolutionized, and we're not talking about decriminalizing,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about tolerating. I'm talking about legalizing, legalizing absolutely,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that is the strategy. Would completely you know, change the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: dynamics of Latin America, would change dynamics inside Mexico, and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it would it would completely eviscerate the cartels and the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: various you know, organized crime organizations dedicated to the drug trade,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and it would reduce crime in the United States dramatically, dramatically.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see. Yeah, pardons, God, pardons. The pardon
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: power is given by the Constitution to the President of
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the United States, and it really is given without any qualifications,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: without any limitations. And one has to really think, given
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: how the parton power is being abused now for decades, really,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: but especially abused by the Biden administration and now the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Trump administration. There has to be a consideration of amending
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the Constitution to either taking away the president's pardon power,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: curtailing it, limiting it, allowing for some kind of review
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: of the process, some kind of quote of a site something.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: But the current system, it's just so fought with corruption
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and inside a dealing and and just straight out corruption.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I mean it goes back to people. I mean that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I remember that Bill Clinton, you know, pardoned, I forget
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the guy's name, was living in Switzerland to escape legal
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: action against him in the United States, who was a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: big time Democratic dona.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: You know, it goes to the fact that every president
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of pardons people affiliated.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: With him in one way or the other. Uh.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And and affiliated with the political party and with contributions
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and everything. Mark Rich, thanks you Qubaya was Mark Ridge.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And then and then Biden's just unbelievable pardon of a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: preempt to partner of himself and his entire family, which
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is just ludicrous and absurd and ridiculous and probably illegal.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's how to read, it's hot, it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: hot to it's how to figure out. I don't know
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: where the constitution where the swiming cord would get the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: basis to rule it is unconstitutional. And now you just
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: get Trump, who it is just outright, you know, uh uh.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Doing stuff that is just blatantly corrupt.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You know, he he pardons, uh the the crypto exchange
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: guy who is uh who is about to sign a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: deal with the Trump family.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That basically, you know, makes the Trump family significant players
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in the crypto space and and and and benefits them,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you know by a huge margin, right.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Huge margin.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And so that's uh uh.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I forget his name, Zao what was his name. I've
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: got to hear what I've got to hear.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chung Peing Zau right, who is a bin and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: ceo you know, by the way, and by the way,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: accused of money laundering for drug trafficking and other crimes. Now, look,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of money laundering laws. And
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know how guilty he is, and I don't
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: know exactly what happened, but the fact that the Trump
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: family had this deal just lined up and he got
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: powdered and the deal went through.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: And the fact that this.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Administration is killing people in the middle of a Caribbean
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: c because of drugs, and so is aggressively pursuing the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: war on drugs, and a lot of that has to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: do with money laundering and drug trafficking and.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: All of that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is just I mean, on the one hand,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: they're persecuting warn drugs. On another hand, they're pardoning people
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: who are laundering money for drugs.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell, what is up with that?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: What is up with that? You know? And then you've.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Got You've got over and over again Trump pardoning, you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: people who are just from his from his universe, right,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you know, people who.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: People commit financial fraud?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Was it? There's a hitge fund guy, you know, a
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: guy named Genteel and Schneider. Over several years, they use
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: their private equity funds to defort ten thousand investors by
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: misrepresenting the fuerformance of the funds and the source of
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: money used to make monthly distribution payments. More than a
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: thousand people submitted statements attesting to their losses. You know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: these were small business owners, farmers. I mean, some of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: this seems dubious to me because small business owners, farmers, veterans, teachers,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: nurses can invest in private equity. So you know, I'm
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: not sure what this story, but you know, the guy
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: was prosecuted.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: By you know these things in.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: New York and after raising one point six billion dollars
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of individual investors based on false promises of generating investment returns.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know, but.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You know, the business has been characterized as a Ponzi scheme.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Prosecutors did, and Trump's pardoned it. He's sending jail and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: he's pardoning him. I mean, is there an argument here
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that it was a bad prosecution. The guy was actually innocent,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It wasn't financial fraud, it didn't really happen. I haven't
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: seen that argument. Maybe he's just out there, but I
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: really haven't seen it. And now and now, you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Trump decided to get involved in the Honduran presidential race,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: which is happening I guess this week's voting is happening
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: in this week, and he is backing kind of the
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: right wing candidate against a Marxist, which which is fine,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: but he's back in this candidate. It's part of the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: fact that he said, oh, if he wins, I'll give in.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: It to Hondua.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Sorry all the supports and this is a good guy
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and I support him, and I want Hondus to be successful,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and again I'll support he said. And by the way,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: if he wins, I'll I'll pardon the former president of uh,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: you know, honduas who was prosecuted for you know, drug
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  Speaker 1: trafficking into the United States.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You know, this is Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted drug trafficker,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: former Honduan president.
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  Speaker 2: Tom's going to pardon him.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: He's again blowing up you know, the poor, you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: poor people who are happen to be maybe smuggling these drugs,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: killing all of those but the people behind them, all
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the heads of these things, which it sounds like Hernande's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: was the big shots. No, he's gonna pardon him. He's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: one of the good guys. Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty crazy.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: And but this is this is Trump.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Pardon's right. I mean, if you actually go through with this.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: What's incompatibility. I mean, I'm fine with saying, look, drugs
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: should be le realized. Pardon everybody unless you were involved
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: in murder, But all all the just trafficking, drug trafficking
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: should not be a charge.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Pardon them all, send them all home.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: All the people in jail today for drug violations that
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: do not involve violent crime should be sent home.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with that once you legalized drugs. But this
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: is I'm blowing.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: People up and I'm pardoning a kingpin. It just it
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: just it's the insanity. And this brings me to this
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: essay that I read this weekend by Andrew Sullivan. Andrew
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Sullivan the Weekly Dish. You can find him at The
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Weekly Dish. He's got a substack. Andrew Sullivan, who's like
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: kind of a Republican, a conservative. I debated him at
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Clemson University a few years ago, which was an interesting debate.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: He's religious, but he's a he's on certain issues.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: He's one of the most thoughtful Republicans out day conservatives
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: out there, and I learned a lot from him. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: think the first time I really did a show on
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: intersectionality on the craziness of a culture, was off of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: articles that he had written, because he had written some
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: of the best articles about it, so he had called
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: this out way before anybody else in the mid in
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the mid twenty teens. He's not a Trump supporter, and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: at least he's often accused of Trump de arrangement syndrome,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a minute. Anyway, he wrote
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a piece for his substack on decency and about Trump
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and decency, and I thought, I thought it was really
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: good and addresses a big part of my revulsion at
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and at the idea that Donald Trump is
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: president of the United States.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: So I wanted to read you parts of this essay
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that I.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Think are reflective of reality and of reflective of my
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: views regarding Donald Trump.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to do that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I want to remind you in the meantime that the
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• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Goal, all right. So let me read you some of this.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: He's talking here about democracy.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Remember when he talks about democracy, just fill in contusu
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of public or fill in this is no government we
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: have today, however you want to call it. He writes,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Democracy requires decency because it requires mutual respect to defend
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: others even as we disagree with them, to accept decisions
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: others have made in elections. We have lost to distinguish
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: between robust rhetoric and dehumanizing cruelty, to accept objective truth
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: when it proves us wrong, to maintain a baseline of civility,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to accept that we are all in this together. Politics
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: is inextripidly inextrac probo from culture, and a decent culture
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: will sustain democracy, while an indecent one will ultimately unravel it.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: So decency and we'll see what you kind of you know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and we'll see how decency is connected, I think, and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: how Trump is connected to the rise, and we'll call
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it the new Right.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: The kind of kind of the indecency of culture in
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: which we live.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: This is why I reject, he writes, the shallow accusation
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that I have Trump derangement syndrome. It's too glib, too dismissive. Yes,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: some have gone overboard in opposing this president. From Russia
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: gay to the brag indictment, overreach has been real. I
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: agree with that, I've acknowledged it. But the core impulse
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to reject trump outright, to see him as uniquely hideous
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: in American political history, as a national collective disgrace, remains
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a vitally important one. I agree because Donald Trump is
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the most indecent man, by far to ever hold the presidency.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: He has openly marked the disabled and the sick. He
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: has reveled in stories of torture and murder. He has
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: spent decades grabbing women by the you guys know fill
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  Speaker 1: in the blank, and bragged about it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: He has the righted prisoners of war for being captured.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: He pollayed his own divorce into tabloid coverage and spoke
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: publicly of wanting to date his own daughter. He began
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: his political rise by pushing a birth of conspiracy he
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: knew was a racist lie. We become inured to his
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: references to shithole countries and the fifty first Stage and
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Gavin Noose come to a misogyny that made Jeffrey Epstein
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: a close friend, and to his gratuitous depiction of his
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: predecessor as a mere auto pen in the White House itself.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: All of this true, Oliver, I agree with. The indecency
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: is in substance as well as style. It is one
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  Speaker 1: one thing to be a realist in foreign policy, to
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: accept the marally morally ambiguous in an immoral world. It
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is simply indecent to treat a country Ukraine invaded by
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: another Russian as the actual aggressor and force her to
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: accept the settlement on the invader's terms. It is one
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: thing to find and arrest illegal immigrants. It is indecent
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: to mock and ridicule them and send them with no
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: due process to foreign gulag where torture is routine. It
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: is one thing to enforce immigration laws. It is another
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to use massd anonymous men to do it. It is
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: one thing to cut foreign aid simp it is simply
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: indecent to do so abruptly and irrationally, so that tens
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: of thousands of children will needlessly die.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I agree with all of that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: We have slowly adjusted to this entire new culture from
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the top, perhaps in the hope that it will somehow
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: be stated sated soon.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: But then new indecencies happened.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: You think you've reached an all time low, and then
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: a trap door opens and we're down in the sub basement.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Just this week, Trump told a reporter asking a perfectly
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: legitimate question, Quiet, quiet, piggy, this is the week before
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: pointing a finger inches for our face. In the novel office,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he defended the Saudi princess orchestration of a brutal murder
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: and dismemdmment of a Washington Post journalist. Thus quote, a
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Whether you like him or.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Didn't like him, things happen. So they dismembered him and
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: killed him. So what that's me? And as he said
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: of lawmakers who argued that his quote war in the
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Caribbean was illegal, in the military should not obey illegal commands,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: remember this Trump quote, hang them. George Washington would and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: seditious behavior punishable by death. Indecency is infectious, he writes,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: when broadcast proudly at the very top in.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Full view of everyone. And this is the key. This
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: is the sense in which I keep saying.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Trump is creating the culture that makes Nick Foorentez, that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: makes Tucker Caulson, that makes all these racist anti Semites,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: you know, proto fascists possible. Trump makes it all possible.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: He encourages it through this kind of attitude. You want
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to see the full context of anti Semitism's hideous return,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: try focusing on a president who is relentlessly legitimized demonization
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and dehumanization of others for a decade. Nick fourentis casual
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: mention of his fandom of Stalin it for and Tucker
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Causon's descent into Coffland territory.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I think he's being too gentle with both of.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Them, a downstream of the soulless disinhibition pioneered by the
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: President himself. In a culture where anything can be said
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and decency is over you, hatred will rise to the surface,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: like pas to Poultice. Recall that infansmous footage of ordinary
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Germans humiliating Jews on the street. Indecency begets greater indecency.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: The Holocaust was just a matter of time. I know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: this is him.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Writing, and I would say I know what's coming next.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Of course, this column will receive a chorus of accusations
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: of tds and how it's deranged to oppose a president
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: just because of his mean tweets, or to compare him
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: with Hitler, like I just did, he says I didn't.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, I just noted that it decency has a
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: political history.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: A blizzard of what abouts will ensure.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: And sure I'll be ridiculed for still not quote getting it,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: but I do get it. I understand why Trump was
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: elected and re elected. I accept the failings of the alternative.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I support some of his policy changes. But what I
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: want to say to those that writing me is you
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: still know I'm right. You still know I'm right. You
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: know who this man is. The record is clear, the
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: core indecency so manifest and disgusting you cannot look away.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: This is not about mean tweets. It is about a
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: brutal assault on common decency in a democracy, and common
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: decency as conservatives once knew and all well grassed.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: So Kenley starts off with some Owell stuff.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Matters, it really does. Trump remains an insidious threat to
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  Speaker 1: our way of life and to free people across the globe.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Indecency is always an indispense of a prologue to tyranny.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: It makes authoritarianis impossible. But what makes authoritarianism inevitable is
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: public acquiescence to it. I don't think most Americans, including
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: most Trump supporters, seriously want to embrace his vileness. They
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: want to bracket it, say it's no big deal, and
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: point to what Trump does and not what he says.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: But what they need to understand is the tolerating indecency
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: at such a high level, treating it as funny or foible,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: or as a way to own the Libs carries a
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: logic that history warns direct against.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: In all Wells, this is Ow's Woods quote.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Fascism has a great appeal for certain simple and decent
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: people who generally genuinely want to see justice done to
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the working class, and the most urgent need of the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: next few years is to capture those normal, decent ones
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: before fascism plays its trump card.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: This was ol rating.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Don't be like Boxer from Animal Farm, who kept his
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: own decency but ignored the indecency of his leader. Napoleon
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: is always right and was finally transported not to a
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: deserved retirement, but to the Knacker's yard by the pigs
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: he foolishly trusted. Don't be like them, and don't be
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like Winston Smith in nineteen eighty four, forced in the
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: end to embrace power over ordinary love.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Do it to Julia, Do it to Julia.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Stay decent. See Trump for what he is. I think
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it's pretty powerful. I think it's true. I basically agreed
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: with pretty much everything. You know. Would have phrased it
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: a little differently, but basically that is true. This is
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: the evil that Trump represents. It's why I am so
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: offended by Trump.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Why I find him.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: So despicable, because he is despicable, because he's just a
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: low human being. I think Sullivan nails it. Sullivan nails it.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: It's exactly who Trump is. Trump's not a fascist. And
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Sullivan didn't say Trump was a fascist. He said Trump
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: is laying the groundwork for fascism, and Trump is laying
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: the groundworld for fascism. And again, I like numbers. Trump
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: never said he thinks he thinks Trump is a fascist.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: He never said that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: It's interesting how how how you listen to stuff and
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: how you let your biases.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Shape what you actually hear.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: All right, Um, he's quoting all way like that because
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: he's saying this is where we're going, this is where
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: we're heading. We're heading towards fascism. Trump is paving the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: road to fascism.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: And I agree completely.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Trump is he's paving the road to the Nick Flantises
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and the Tucker Calsons and the real fascists down the road.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: They're coming.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Trump is too uncarrying, too anti ideological, too thugg too
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: just just too dumb to be a fascist. Trump is
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: not the fascist, but he's paving rower for it, which
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: is exactly what all is is warning the British that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: this is what's coming, that the road is being paved
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: to pay attention. Yeah, I mean if people don't actually listen,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: they they bias, they're listening with what they what they
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: you know, with their prejudice.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: All right, Uh, let's shift topics speak shift.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about settle of violence on the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: West Bank. I've talked a little bit about it, but
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: it really is a disgusting phenomena, a phenomena that is only.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Growing, there's becoming worse.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I keep thinking, and I certainly thought this earlier in
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: the year and last year when when these stories came
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: out and settle of violence in the West Bank, there's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a This is violence against Palestinians and sometimes against Israeli
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: UH defense forces personnel and or against Jews that happened
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to be there. This is violence against them committed by
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Missianic type Jews who who are mostly young, young young
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Israelis who are uh you know who you know, basically
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: want to create chaos in the West Bank and and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: basically forced the hand of the Israeli government ultimately to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: come in and take over and UH and and annex
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the West Bank, can put it all under Israeli authority.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Right now, the West Bank is a is a hodgepodge
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: of areas where they're Palestinian authority rules, where Israel rules,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: and even where Israel's rules. Is that the army is,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: that the police is the civilian authority. What exactly is
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: going on? It's very confusing, it's very messed up. And
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: these these young people are taking advantage of all that,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and they are getting more and more emboldan because I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: keep thinking, Okay, these Israeli governments of Israel's a is
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: a land of mostly a land of laws, and they
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: will clamp down on this, and they will. They will
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: shut them down, and they will put them in prison.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: They will do the stuff that's necessary. And what's become
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: evidence over this year, over twenty twenty five is that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: they are not and they will not. That the Israeli
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: government led by Nitagnel has been captured by the worst
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: elements of these Missianic Jews. I knew this was true
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: about other issues, but it applies here as well. And
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: they're basically letting them again with a wink and a nod,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: letting them get away with violence. And we'll talking about
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: horrific violence, beating people up for doing nothing sometimes people
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: who are in the eighties and you know, or throwing
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: rocks and beating people up for harvesting the olives in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: their olive oaches. And these are not olive vaches that
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: are the property Whites are disputed. Other than these Missianic
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Jews believe everything belongs to them because they Jews, which
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: is barbaric, mystical nonsense. And you know, they beat up
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: in Israeli photographer they sent to the hospital and was
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: killed him. They've burnt Palestinian homes with people inside. Now
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: luckily there haven't been many casualties. But people have been injured,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: they've gone to hospitals. I mean real harm has been done,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: and people's homes have been burned down, and they could
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: have been significant deaths.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like they.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Warned them in advance or something, not that they were justified,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: but they just they have no respect, no respect.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: For the life of these people. It is truly horrific.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: They are sowing hatred among Palestinians for Israel, and they're
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Make the West Bank ungovernable.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: And of course, if they achieve what they actually want,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: which is chaos in the West Bank, what that'll lead
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: to is a lot of violence and a lot of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: violence that are rebound on Israel.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: A lot of Israeli is getting killed. This could be
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Israel doesn't need another funt in its war.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: It's got troops locked down in Gaza, it's got troops
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: locked down on its northern front with Lebanon.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: And what these idiots are going to create as.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: A situation where a lot of those troops are going
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to come in order to in order to deal with
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: an uprising in the West Bank.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: But much more important than.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: That, Israel is it a real risk of losing its
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: identity of a civilized country, which is the basis on
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: which I and I think many people support.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I don't support it because it's a Jewish state. I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: don't support it because Jews live there.
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  Speaker 1: I support it because it is generally a free country
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  Speaker 1: the respect rights. But if it really does stop respecting rights,
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  Speaker 1: if the power is handed over to a bunch of
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: crazy messianic, mystical religious nutcases, then Israel will lose my support.
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  Speaker 1: And what's going on right now and now, I mean
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: this government has already lost my support, lost it a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: long time ago.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: It really never had my support this government.
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  Speaker 1: You know, elections should be announced now. There should be
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: elections now. Got a little bit of a pause from
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: the fighting in Gazlan and Lebanon. A lot of decisions
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: have to be made about the future, and that Chanel
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: needs to be out.
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  Speaker 2: He needs to be ousted.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: You know, a deal should be cut where he gets
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: a pardon on all the corruption charges against him, and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: in exchange he promises not to for reelection. He leaves politics.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: That should be the boggain. I'm happy not to see
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Natonnille go to jail, but out of politics and let
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a new generation of politicians come in and try to
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: lead this country. Elections need to be elections need to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: be happening sooner rather than later, and the next elections
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: in Israel a key issue needs to be right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because on most.
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  Speaker 1: Of the big questions facing Israel from a security perspective,
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  Speaker 1: there's broad agreement. You know, as I've said many times,
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  Speaker 1: it's very there's almost no left in Israel. Everybody's center left,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: center right. Israel is a basic a center right country,
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  Speaker 1: and all the political parties, major politic parties in Israel
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  Speaker 1: as center right. The biggest disagreement they have is about personality.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: It's about Natenniel taking Antennie out. And you've got a
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: large coalition of center right parties that wins an overwhelming majority.
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  Speaker 2: And what I would like to see. What I would
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: like to see.
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  Speaker 1: Is a commitment by these center right parties, who are
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: mostly secular, to have nothing to do with the Missianic
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Jewish political parties, to have nothing to do.
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  Speaker 2: With them, and to.
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  Speaker 1: You know, instead and to impose the rule of law,
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  Speaker 1: just the rule of law, nothing special, the rule of
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  Speaker 1: law on the West Bank, on the Jews on the
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  Speaker 1: West Bank, to send them to jail, to send them
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  Speaker 1: to prison for long sentences, to figure out who the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: leaders of this movement are they might be sitting in
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the government of Israel right now, and to prosecute them
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: to clearly defined because one of the problems right now
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: there is that there's no clear definition or who's responsible
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: for low and order, is that the military is that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: the police, make it clear who's responsible and give them
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: all the power they need and to enforce it. Many
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: of these young people live in the hills of the
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  Speaker 1: West Bank and occupy areas illegally, that is land that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: does not belong to them. They need to be those
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: illegal settlements need to be dismantled, and those kids need
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: to be punished for baking the law, just like you
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  Speaker 1: would in any civilized country.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, is All needs to commit to its
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: civilized nature.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at this point, you know who is fit
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: to a place nintaining on people ask you should ask
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: in a super chat.
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  Speaker 2: That's what super chat is for, right, I.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Mean you have lots of questions, put it to put
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: two dollars together and ask it in the superchair. Now
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I answer all questions in the super chair. So again,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Israel's status as a civilized country is at stake, and
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: it's support Us in the United States are watching and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: there are enough of them that just to horrify about
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: what is going on in the West Bank. And it
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: needs to end now. Not all settlers in the West
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Bank are like this. Many people go to the West
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  Speaker 1: Bank because it's it's a it's it's a relatively cheap
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  Speaker 1: place uh to to live. That there are lots of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: there's economic opportunities there, there's cheap homes. Some go there
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  Speaker 1: because you know, the Orthodox Jews, and they go there
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  Speaker 1: for religious reasons. And then that people who go there
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: to make a political statement, and they you know, these
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: are the Missianic types, and they want to create mayhem,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: they want to create chaos, they want to Look, they're
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: three and a half million Arabs Muslims living in the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: West Bank, three and a half million, the half a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: million Jews living in the West Bank. Israel does not
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  Speaker 1: need a conflict, a hot conflict with three and a
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  Speaker 1: half Muslim million Muslims in the West Bank.
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  Speaker 2: It would not be good. It would not be good.
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  Speaker 2: It would undermine much of the successes Israel's had in
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  Speaker 2: this recent war.
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  Speaker 1: So it needs to climb down in these people just
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  Speaker 1: because the Jews gives them no special privileges, should give them.
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  Speaker 2: No special privileges.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it means to be a civilized country, not
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: a theocracy.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: All right, some good news.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: On Tuesday last week, Waima announced that it is going
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: to have driverless cars in five new cities Dallas, Houston,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: San Antonio, Miami, in Orlando. The beginning testing immediately in Miami.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: They'll begin testing in the other countries in no other
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: cities soon, and they'll have all of them in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. They'll have full service in all of them
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. Waimo is clearly accelerating its commercialization,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: its expansion beyond Phoenix, San Francisco, La Austin, and Atlanta
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: where they operate today. And by the way, if you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: live in one of those Waymo cities, then you know
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: use Weymo. It's so cool, it's so unbelievable.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Be cool. Drive those drivers out of business.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: It's time to place drivers in America with driverless cars.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Much safer, much more comfortable, much easier.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Waimo is also now that they will go into six
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  Speaker 1: other US cities in twenty twenty six. Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, Nashville,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: San Diego, and Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 2: And which I think is.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty amazing and will be really interesting to see London.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: London.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: The cabbys are going to allow them to go to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: London without you know, wow, without a fight. That's going
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to be amazing to see Waimo in London. Now, notice
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: that a lot of these cities, you know, a lot
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: of cities so far being in good climate, so it's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see them in Denver and
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Detroit and Washington, d C. Have way more deal with
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: snow and ice. Is going to be interesting. But again,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: it looks really really really cool and you know, so
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: far from what I've seen from Weymo, Yeah, they can
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: take on pretty much all of these challenges. They're looking
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: to be in seventeen cities by the end of next year, right,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: which is triple what they are today. In addition, in addition,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Weimo is going to begin for the first time commercial
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: services on freeways. One of the big disadvantages Weymo's had
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: visa Uber and others is the fact that they couldn't
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: go on highways, so it was impossible to get to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: San Francisco airport. It's impossible to use them for many
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: of the airports. Now they get a drive on highways
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: and now we'll really see how they they how they do,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: because I mean that will be that will be pretty amazing.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: And of course you can't run away more any kind
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: of service in a place like Dallas at Houston if
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: you can't go on the highways, right, because I mean
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: those cities are dominated by highways.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting that a lot of these new cities being announced
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: are in Republican LED states. You know, even though the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Democratic led cities, the Republican LEDs states states Republican led
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: states have been much much more open to using this technology.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: The exception, of course is California, where where this technologies
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: was initiated and trite first and is being expanded San Francisco,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and San Diego. But again you're not seeing
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: many of many kind of blue states. Seattle with Seattle,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Seattle should be a dropping this. New York, Boston, Buffalo,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo is being in talks and even Washington
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: d C.
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  Speaker 2: Will see if that actually launches. For example, in Washington
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: d C.
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  Speaker 1: WAMO is going to have to have a driver inside
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: like a safety driver for a while. It's not clear
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: when Washington d C Is going to allow them to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: go full full on driver less commercial Massachusetts does doesn't
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: provide a clear path to deployee robot taxes in Boston,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and Boston officials have you know, have actually considered the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: legislation and completely banned driverless vehicles in Washington state.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Seattle.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: In other words, the law allows testing of autonomous vehicles
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: but doesn't offer clear path towards commercialization. Legislation to authorize
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: warble taxis in the state hasn't gotten traction uh, and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: legislatures offering a bill to actually ban the technology from
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: the state completely. New York law requires a person to
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: have at least one hand on the wheel. Legislation to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: change that hasn't made much progress through the states legislature.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we could wake.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Up in many in many states, we could wake up
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: this situation where some states have fully autonomous vehicles, they
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: have trucks, they have cars, and and you know, the
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: accidents and deaths and efficiency accidents, the decks of way down,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: efficiency is way up, and other states have none. Now
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: this isn't all blue red as we said, uh, you know, uh,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: California has been at the forefront of this, and indeed
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go on the highway. So we're gonna you know,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you're gonna see not just San Francisco, I have Way Moo,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: but go from San Francisco throughout the Bay area all
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: the way down to San Jose, which means all down
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: the highways, which is huge.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: San Diego is going to start. Colorado, for example.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Colorado's governor, Jared Poulis is a big supporter of autonas
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: vehicles and.
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  Speaker 2: He uh, he vetoed legislation, backed of course by the teamsters.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: They were to banned large driver liist trucks in Colorado
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: and way more will probably launched there in twenty twenty six.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: And then you've got Purple states like Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: They are favorable laws towards WAYMOS. So that is going
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: to happen. We'll see what happens in the rest of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: the country. But yeah, Waymos is coming to a city,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: New York, the city near you, and.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Base it, jump on it, use it, support it.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great technology. It's a great technology with
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: pretty much on the upside.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: All right. Last story is a story out of China.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: And this has to do with Farmer.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: China is now becoming a massive new developer of new medicine.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Now, China used to be.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Huge on generics and then providing chemicals used in pharmaceuticals.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: And that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last ten years, China has become the second
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: largest developer of new medicines. About a decade ago, only
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: five percent, you know, of clinical trials for new medicines
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: will run in China. Last year it was a third
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: of all clinical trials globally. We're run in China. So
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: it's the United States, China, and then the rest of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: the world. There's a story in this and economist. Drug
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  Speaker 1: discovery has been dominated in the past by the US,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: by so called Big Farmer, which is the US and
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: and and a few European companies, right. But the reality
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: is Big Farmer is about to hit a big cliff
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: where all its patents for about three hundred billion dollars
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: in total revenue are going to expire. They are scouring
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: the world for new molecules, for new potential drugs, and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: they're fighting them in China. The United States is investing
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: US companies, US pharmaceutical companies investing heavily in biotech companies
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: in China. And this is, of course, the timing is
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: about as bad as you could imagine. Trump is constantly
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: threatening to place tariffs on Chinese pharmaceuticals. We're in the
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: midst of a trade war with China, which is on
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: pause right now but could escalate at any time. You know.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: In May, Fisa, US's biggest drug drug.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Maker, paid one point twenty five billion to three s
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Bio Chinese biotech FOAM for the rights to manufacture and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: sell an experimental cancer drug outside of China if the
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: drug is approved. Glaxo smith Klein, the British company, struck
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a five hundred million dollar deal with another Chinese company
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: for lung disease treatment, and all together, you know, you know,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: American and European companies investing heavily in where the new
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: science is actually happening.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: China, you know, has.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Streamlined its regulatory process, has streamlined the process for drug trials.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: And again, almost all the investment, or almost all of
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: the work in biotech in China has done by private
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: companies and is financed by private capital. And what you're
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: seeing is a huge increase in production. So if you
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: go back to twenty fifteen, China only approved new only
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: eleven treatments. Eleven new treatments, almost all of them Western imports.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: By twenty twenty four, in one year they approved ninety
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: three of them developed domestically.
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  Speaker 2: So this is the beauty of.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Expanding trade, expanding industry, expanding private industry to the extent
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: China it's private at least to some extent. Expanding research.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: You now have in a sense one point four billion
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: additional brains working on problems like curing cancer, like solving
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: other health issues. Now we will see how efficient this
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: all is. Ultimately, that is how good the research is
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: coming out of China. Will see how good they trials
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: are though, the trials that they do, the human trials
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: for drugs that they do, all supervised by American big
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: pharma or by European big pharma, because they want to
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: know that if they're buying a product, they're buying a
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: product that makes some sense. Most Chinese firms are focusing
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: on cancer, which is great. Of course, they're also doing
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: weight loss drugs like Goovi and ozem Tech. Given that
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: they're so popular and so successful and it made so
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: much money, the Chinese are going to come out with
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: their own set of these the patents on these drugs.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: ASS is going to expire soon and there'll be a
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: bunch of generics and the price will drop dramatically. So yeah,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: I mean again, I think it's great when it comes
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: to economics and when it comes to these kinds of things,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I don't see China as a competitor. I see China
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: as part of a globalized system in which, you know,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: we all benefit from what they produce and what they
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: create and what they innovate. Now, you know the fact
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: that they are so good in drug discovery and that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: they have they're pretty good in artificial intelligence. You know,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: the US needs to watch it that they that we
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: still compete.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: But it's easy to fix the United States.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Reduce regulations, reduce comany intervention, do the opposite of what
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the Trump and Biden administration have done, which is do
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: price caps on drugs, reduce the incentives of drug companies
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: to find new drugs, reduce the incentive to innovate in
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: biotech and get you know, and you know, eliminate is
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: too much, but at least, you know, shrink a regulatory
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: you know, the regulations and the the the chokeholds that
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: we place on American pharma. Instead, the Trump administration wants
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: to put a chokehold in Chinese farmer or at least
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: the chocolate visa of the America. It wants to penalize
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: importing drugs from China, and it wants to penalize American
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: pharmaceutical but from making a profit. That's exact opposite thing
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: of what they should be doing. All right, guys, that
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: is the news for this December first, twenty twenty five.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: All Right, today is going to go down as one
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: of the lowest super Chat days ever.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: In history unless something changes quickly.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, we've got a few questions we'll get,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: we'll get, we'll do them quickly, and we'll go on.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Let me just remind you a few things. One, I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: am going to be participating at a conference in Florida
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: in Fort Mayas, Florida, between January thirtieth and February two.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: It's called the RAMS Day week End Objectives Conference. There's
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: still a discount to attend. Prices go up December thirtieth.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Right now, the cost of four hundred and thirty seven
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: dollars to attend it goes up to five hundred and
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: nine dollars December thirtieth.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: The comments is going to be great.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a short conference, but very
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: high quality. I mean, Harry will be there talking about
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: how to study I, Rand ellen Kenna bringing out the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: OK and yourself, Sehawana Milgram, the great sense of being,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Gene Maroney, reliance on the power to thank, Peter Schwartz
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: and how to write it clearly, and Don Watkins what
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: I wish I knew before about defending capitalism when I started. Uh.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, in addition to that, Harry, Peter and I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: will be doing a panel discussion will answer questions about
• 1:25:31
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