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Monday Mini: Collective Trauma · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane.
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  Speaker 1: Never told you a protection of I heart radio. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and happy Monday everyone. If you're listening to this on
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  Speaker 1: a Monday when it's released, it's not happy day. Happy
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  Speaker 1: day to you. Um. And we were back with a
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  Speaker 1: bit of rest and vacation time that we just had,
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  Speaker 1: which was lovely. Annie, what did you do? I got
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  Speaker 1: to go on my annual beach trip with my great
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  Speaker 1: close friends that I've had since I was in um
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  Speaker 1: elementary school and we participated in our own Olympics and
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  Speaker 1: they were a delight. And I came in third and
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  Speaker 1: I think I was robbed, but that's all. Oh third,
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  Speaker 1: not even second. Oh, Samantha, I don't need you rubbing
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  Speaker 1: it in. I had a very my start was bad
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  Speaker 1: of the day, I'll admit at a very poor performance
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  Speaker 1: in the balancing dice act. Terrible. Oh no, you're kind
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  Speaker 1: of shaky, that makes sense. In my raft race, I
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  Speaker 1: did really well and uh oh end up putting out
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  Speaker 1: the candles with the water gun. Top notch gold medal
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  Speaker 1: for me. That's that's pretty smart, although there could be
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  Speaker 1: probably disadvantage as if this windy. Yeah, we had to
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  Speaker 1: find a very strategic place. I love that. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: we just spend time with family and he just got
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  Speaker 1: to swim a lot, so it's yes. And you've never
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  Speaker 1: seen pizza swim. You should go see my instagram because
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  Speaker 1: it's quite cute and I love it. And we had
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  Speaker 1: to buy her little booties so that she didn't rough
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  Speaker 1: up her paws because the bottom of the swimming pool
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  Speaker 1: is pretty rough. And so yeah, I have pictures of
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  Speaker 1: my dog swimming and booties, just so you know. And
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  Speaker 1: you know what, let's just be honest. I think everyone
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  Speaker 1: is in dire need of rust, especially in the past
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  Speaker 1: several years, and just overall, there's been so much conversation
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  Speaker 1: of how taking a rest is often discouraged or seen
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  Speaker 1: as a week. But that's the whole other episode and
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about that today. But we do
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about what many have been experiencing for
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  Speaker 1: a while now, which is collected trauma. And we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go a little broader than that because as we were
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  Speaker 1: researching it, not too much in the research is coming
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  Speaker 1: about how it affects women specifically, and I'm sure it's
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  Speaker 1: coming around, don't get me wrong, But again, we did
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  Speaker 1: want to see a little bit about the definition and
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  Speaker 1: just let you know that all that anxiety and that
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  Speaker 1: trauma that you feel is legitimate and there's a reason
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  Speaker 1: for it. Um And we spoke about it briefly in
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  Speaker 1: other episodes, especially when we did our Trauma series when
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  Speaker 1: I first started on, and I think it's really important
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  Speaker 1: that we talk about it more because a we need
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  Speaker 1: to de stimatize any kind of mental health conversations in
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  Speaker 1: general and just talk about why it's broader than we think,
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  Speaker 1: and also just about how it does take a toll
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  Speaker 1: as a public health crisis, and we don't do that enough.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, who has been in my field in
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  Speaker 1: a long time, I am an advocate, a strong advocate
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  Speaker 1: in making sure that we are addressing these things and
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  Speaker 1: being able to recognize it. So, yeah, but we did. Again,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I want to take a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a deeper look and just a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a reminder of what it is as well as just
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  Speaker 1: just so you realize, we're not going to go in
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  Speaker 1: depth about any specific situations that could cause trauma or
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  Speaker 1: like it does cause anxiety, but we are going to
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  Speaker 1: kind of mention some of the past things that could
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  Speaker 1: bring on the type of collective trauma just let you know. Yeah, So,
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  Speaker 1: to begin with, what is collective trauma? According to psychology today,
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  Speaker 1: collective trauma refers to quote the impact of a traumatic
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  Speaker 1: experience that effects It involves entire groups of people, communities,
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  Speaker 1: or societies, and it is something that can have consequences
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  Speaker 1: within these communities. It can affect relationships, policies, and even
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  Speaker 1: governmental processes. It can change how society functions or even operates,
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  Speaker 1: and may even change what is considered to be the
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  Speaker 1: social norm. And a bit more in depth, collective trauma
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  Speaker 1: is quote a response that can follow a variety of
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  Speaker 1: traumatic experiences, and this includes things like wars, natural disasters, pandemics,
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  Speaker 1: systemic and historical oppression, and mass shootings and other events.
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  Speaker 1: And though it may be felt collectively, the experiences vary
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  Speaker 1: for each individual, and the pandemic has been something that
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  Speaker 1: has clearly shown the good and bad of these responses right.
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  Speaker 1: And with the continued stories of sexual violence and trauma,
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  Speaker 1: as we're hearing more and more stories and or people
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  Speaker 1: are actually coming out and fighting against those who are abusers,
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  Speaker 1: women have continued to have layered effects of collective trauma
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  Speaker 1: within the last years. But it isn't just the collective
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  Speaker 1: trauma that continues to weigh many people down who have
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  Speaker 1: been affected by these stories and situations, but it's also
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  Speaker 1: the vicarious trauma, which is hearing all these stories that
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  Speaker 1: are way too familiar, especially when it comes to sexual assault, harassment, violence,
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  Speaker 1: and abuse. So vicarious trauma is just being able to
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  Speaker 1: relate through something else someone else has go on through
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  Speaker 1: um And I know we've talked about that during the
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  Speaker 1: Kavanaugh hearing, and we're talking about it again as the
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  Speaker 1: FBI has now shown reports that they did not handle
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  Speaker 1: the cases and or incident reports to any actual investigation.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of rebringing it up some
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  Speaker 1: of the things, especially with Dr Ford coming back out
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  Speaker 1: saying they completely mishandled this and I didn't get the
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  Speaker 1: justice that I deserve. Uh, And she's completely right. And
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  Speaker 1: it is this level of being physiologically linked by experiencing
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  Speaker 1: these emotions, anxieties, and traumas of others, which is often
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  Speaker 1: a layer of the collective trauma that continues when larger
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  Speaker 1: vicarious traumagic situations occur. It's a lot, y'all, But what's
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  Speaker 1: more is the depth of how the patriarchal structures that
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  Speaker 1: becomes the platform of why women and non binary people
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  Speaker 1: are suffering from the depth of collective trauma. And while
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about the effects of the patriarch apparently there
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  Speaker 1: is a thing called the patriarchal stress disorder. Is fairly new,
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  Speaker 1: it's just recently coined. And yes, we are definitely coming
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  Speaker 1: back to this in a different episode, so look out
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  Speaker 1: for it. Yes, But within these layers, we have to
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  Speaker 1: look at the intersectionality of the continued piling on of
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  Speaker 1: trauma that causes overwhelming crises within different communities. As the
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  Speaker 1: police violence against the black community and b I p
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  Speaker 1: O c continue, we watch as the world keeps inflicting
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  Speaker 1: a level of suffering in a power play for white supremacy,
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  Speaker 1: was seemingly little to no justice to be seen. The
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  Speaker 1: small victories of justice are sometimes smeared by victim blaming
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  Speaker 1: tactics that are often used against those who aren't here
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  Speaker 1: to defend themselves. And it's not new, but it is
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  Speaker 1: a reason for us to see this as a public
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  Speaker 1: health crisis collected trauma by curious trauma and racial trauma,
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  Speaker 1: which is what is happening for the communities that keep
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  Speaker 1: having to screen. Black Lives Matter and being pushed against
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  Speaker 1: and persecuted are all a crisis that needs to be
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  Speaker 1: addressed and seen as a public health crisis which will
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  Speaker 1: continue to affect those who aren't able to process or
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  Speaker 1: get any type of intervention or access to any type
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  Speaker 1: of healthcare. Right. So, when we're talking about out these
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  Speaker 1: different levels and it gets bigger and bigger, we know this.
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  Speaker 1: And when looking at again how we're talking about intersectionality
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  Speaker 1: here and why it was coined, this is the very
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  Speaker 1: reason there is a deeper meaning of why this is
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  Speaker 1: so dangerous to so many people. But who affects and
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  Speaker 1: who affects more? And I think we have to keep
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  Speaker 1: talking about it and we need to address and we
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  Speaker 1: need to look at it as a public health crisis,
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  Speaker 1: including gun violence. When we talk about like collective trauma
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  Speaker 1: for those who have experienced mass shootings, that's a big
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  Speaker 1: play into that collective trauma. But no one is willing
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  Speaker 1: to see this as a public health crisis. Although the
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  Speaker 1: CDC finally came out and we're like, yes, this needs
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  Speaker 1: to be addressed and we need to study it, and
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of pushback. We know this with
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  Speaker 1: the n r A saying that we're cool. So that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the big things. And yes, it is political.
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  Speaker 1: This type of level of conversation is political, but needs
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  Speaker 1: to be pushed to a bigger, broader stroke about healthcare
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  Speaker 1: and mental health issue. So so many things, and yes,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot to be researched, and it's probably
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  Speaker 1: being studied, especially as the current crisis is still ongoing.
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  Speaker 1: Hello delta variant. And many are grieving over so much
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  Speaker 1: loss and difficulties that have been affecting so many. But
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  Speaker 1: as stated in Psychology Today, quote, grieving takes time. Grieving
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  Speaker 1: for a collected trauma takes time. Organization and vision understanding
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  Speaker 1: how to respect the greeting process and foster the sense
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  Speaker 1: of hope is the first step of organizing and rebuilding community.
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  Speaker 1: There's both a need to respectfully acknowledge the ongoing barden
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  Speaker 1: of living without loved ones or the familiar ways of life,
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  Speaker 1: and to thoughtfully foster new ways of building on the
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  Speaker 1: communal strength of the survivors. And it's such a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: statement and beautiful idea, and yes, this is what we
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  Speaker 1: need to do, but the underlying reasons for all of
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  Speaker 1: those types of trauma is what needs to be talked
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  Speaker 1: about first, and I think we're barely they are. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: we keep having to rerun these conversations on a constant basis, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: um and until we can actually come to a point
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  Speaker 1: of understanding that there's so much more to bringing strength
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  Speaker 1: to the survivors. And again, part of that is us
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  Speaker 1: being advocates and allies for those who are seemingly drowning
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  Speaker 1: in collective black carreous in racial trauma. Yes. Yes, so
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  Speaker 1: obviously a lot more for us to talk about, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll return in a future episode. We hope
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