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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:07Speaker 2: The so called supermom turned kidnap hoaxer Shery Peppini is
- 0:12Speaker 2: back in court. She is battling for child visitation with
- 0:17Speaker 2: her ex husband. Good luck, Sherry Peppini. I'm Nancy Grace.
- 0:22Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
- 0:25Speaker 2: The California mom who pled guilty to charges related to
- 0:29Speaker 2: faking her own kidnapping, showing up on Thanksgiving covered in bruises, starved,
- 0:36Speaker 2: even branded. She branded herself with a curling iron. Okay,
- 0:42Speaker 2: tell that to a judge. He's not going to give
- 0:44Speaker 2: you more visitation or custody with your children. Forget it.
- 0:49Speaker 2: But that said, she's back in court. She is whining.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Quote.
- 0:54Speaker 2: For eight years, our family has been followed, stalk to
- 0:57Speaker 2: rest and bullied by the media. Really could it be
- 1:01Speaker 2: because you led everyone on a wild goose chase, spending
- 1:04Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers money, torturing your family,
- 1:10Speaker 2: your husband and children, thinking you were probably dead before
- 1:13Speaker 2: you came back like a stray cat on Thanksgiving morning.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Oh. She said this to Kate orc R.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Quote, I've done my best to stay private, to focus
- 1:23Speaker 2: on my children and healing what she's healing from her
- 1:27Speaker 2: own hoax, healing from the.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Events that transpired.
- 1:31Speaker 2: She makes it sounds like something happened to her, not
- 1:34Speaker 2: that she actually did something pretty evil. Pretending you've been
- 1:38Speaker 2: kidnapped and your children having to endure the possibility you
- 1:42Speaker 2: could be dead.
- 1:45Speaker 1: For many years.
- 1:46Speaker 2: After my arrest, I was the primary caregiver of our
- 1:50Speaker 2: children before serving my time in prison. You mean, before
- 1:53Speaker 2: you played guilty. My children have always been my primary focus.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Oh was that what you were thinking about when you
- 1:59Speaker 2: pretend I need to be kidnapped, slung up with your
- 2:02Speaker 2: old boyfriend? What ordering pizza, watching movies? I guess at
- 2:06Speaker 2: that point from Blockbuster. Peppini wants to be able to
- 2:10Speaker 2: see her children again. After an eight year saga that
- 2:14Speaker 2: got worldwide press attention. There was even a Hulu documentary
- 2:19Speaker 2: the ex Keith Peppini is fighting to shelter the children
- 2:23Speaker 2: from their mother. Why is he so hell bent on
- 2:27Speaker 2: sheltering his children?
- 2:29Speaker 1: This is why?
- 2:32Speaker 3: Hello, can I help you?
- 2:34Speaker 4: Yeah? So I just call home from work and my
- 2:38Speaker 4: wife wasn't there, which is unusual, and my kids should
- 2:41Speaker 4: have been there by now from like daycare. So I
- 2:43Speaker 4: was like, oh, maybe she went on a walk, I
- 2:45Speaker 4: couldn't find her, so I called the daycare to see
- 2:47Speaker 4: what times she picked up the kids. The kids were
- 2:49Speaker 4: never picked up, so I got freaked out. So I
- 2:51Speaker 4: hit like to find my phone app thing and it
- 2:54Speaker 4: said that her. It showed her phone like at our
- 2:56Speaker 4: end of our driveway. Wen I'm really good service. Okay,
- 2:59Speaker 4: not the end of our in our street, but just
- 3:01Speaker 4: drove downer and I saw her phone with her headphones
- 3:03Speaker 4: because she started running again, and it's town her phone.
- 3:07Speaker 4: It's got like hair ripped out of it, like in
- 3:09Speaker 4: the headphones. So I'm like totally freaking out, thinking like
- 3:11Speaker 4: somebody like, what's her?
- 3:12Speaker 5: Grab her?
- 3:13Speaker 1: Thanking, someone grabbed her?
- 3:17Speaker 2: Now take a listen to our cut one from Channel
- 3:20Speaker 2: seven kr c R.
- 3:23Speaker 6: Keith Pappini came home last Wednesday and his wife, Sherry Pappini,
- 3:26Speaker 6: was nowhere to be found.
- 3:28Speaker 7: In normal days, I would open the door and my
- 3:32Speaker 7: families comes and runs and gives me a hug.
- 3:34Speaker 6: But there were no welcoming hugs. So he searched in
- 3:37Speaker 6: the house and their property, but learned the children were
- 3:40Speaker 6: still at daycare. He found Sherry's phone down the street.
- 3:44Speaker 7: That's when I knew she'd been, in my opinion, taken
- 3:46Speaker 7: or abducted.
- 3:48Speaker 6: Now days later, family, friends, the community, and law enforcement
- 3:52Speaker 6: are still looking for Sherry.
- 3:54Speaker 7: It's the worst thing in the world. It's the worst
- 3:56Speaker 7: thing ever.
- 3:57Speaker 6: Time going by slowly and they're children don't know their
- 4:01Speaker 6: mother is missing.
- 4:02Speaker 1: It's hard waiting.
- 4:03Speaker 8: You know, you're waiting.
- 4:04Speaker 7: You're waiting for a phone call, You're waiting for something
- 4:06Speaker 7: to tell us. You know, this is the direction, or
- 4:08Speaker 7: this is the house, or this is the car, and
- 4:12Speaker 7: that is that is very difficult right now.
- 4:15Speaker 6: But Keith is determined to find her.
- 4:18Speaker 7: If she's listening, I wanted to say that we're trying
- 4:20Speaker 7: the best we can and I'm so sorry that I'm
- 4:22Speaker 7: not there.
- 4:23Speaker 6: The family believes she was abducted and has this message.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Bring her home, Bring her home, just bring her home.
- 4:30Speaker 2: We all know that Peppinie was on a very tight
- 4:33Speaker 2: schedule that she never missed picking up her children. Take
- 4:39Speaker 2: listen to her sister in law, Sherry Peppini are cut five.
- 4:43Speaker 9: There's no way she would do anything to disrupt her
- 4:46Speaker 9: children's routine, you know, the being that the phone was
- 4:49Speaker 9: found and she wasn't on her routine there, Yeah, there's
- 4:52Speaker 9: no way she wouldn't have gone and picked up the children.
- 4:55Speaker 9: They're on a very they're on a very tight schedule,
- 4:57Speaker 9: and she's extremely close with them. She's here with them
- 4:59Speaker 9: every day, gardening and doing projects, and there's just no
- 5:04Speaker 9: way that.
- 5:04Speaker 7: She would take off.
- 5:05Speaker 1: It's terrible.
- 5:07Speaker 9: She's an incredible human being, best mom I've ever seen.
- 5:11Speaker 2: You're hearing the sister in law, Suzanne Peppini speaking.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
- 5:19Speaker 2: in series XEM one eleven. Sherry Peppini a name that
- 5:24Speaker 2: echoes and echoes and echoes. She's been in the news
- 5:27Speaker 2: so much. With me an all star panel to make
- 5:30Speaker 2: sense of what we know right now. Matthew Mangino, former prosecutor,
- 5:35Speaker 2: highly respected attorney, author of The Executioners Toll, Doctor Angela Arnold, psychiatrist,
- 5:42Speaker 2: joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela Arnold,
- 5:44Speaker 2: MD dot com. Mona Kay private investigator at Mona Ka Investigations,
- 5:51Speaker 2: joining us out of Omaha. Emmy Award winning investigative reporter
- 5:55Speaker 2: Christy Massurich and special guests joining us. Sheriff Michael Johnson
- 6:01Speaker 2: from the Shasta Counties Sheriff's Office to Sheriff Michael Johnson,
- 6:07Speaker 2: this case has been hanging around the Sheriff's office neck
- 6:13Speaker 2: an albatross, so to speak. Sheriff Michael Johnson familiar with
- 6:19Speaker 2: the extensive search for Sherry Peppini. Take a listen to
- 6:23Speaker 2: the Shasta County Sheriff presser.
- 6:25Speaker 10: The deputies last night when they responded, they conducted a
- 6:29Speaker 10: search of the area and canvas area with local neighbors
- 6:33Speaker 10: and residents there and they worked throughout the night and
- 6:36Speaker 10: into the early morning hours along with Shasta County Sheriff
- 6:39Speaker 10: investigators as well. They were also able to utilize the
- 6:43Speaker 10: Reach helicopter as the HP Air Operations helicopter was not available,
- 6:48Speaker 10: and they Reached helicopter.
- 6:50Speaker 11: Came out and illuminated the area.
- 6:52Speaker 10: And checked to the fields in the side of the
- 6:54Speaker 10: roads for her and assisting us in the search operations
- 6:59Speaker 10: last night. They also used for search canines for scent work.
- 7:04Speaker 10: Local area hospitals were checked and of course the sides
- 7:07Speaker 10: of the roadways were checked as well. Ms Peppini has
- 7:10Speaker 10: been entered into a national computer for missing persons. She
- 7:15Speaker 10: is considered at risk due to the suspicious circumstances.
- 7:19Speaker 2: To Sheriff Michael Johnson joining us in Shasta County Sheriff's Office.
- 7:24Speaker 2: It's a real honor and privilege to have you with us, Sheriff.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Thank you for taking time away from your extremely busy
- 7:30Speaker 2: schedule to be with us, Sheriff. You guys went all
- 7:34Speaker 2: out and your search for Sherry Peppini.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Explain what your search entailed.
- 7:41Speaker 5: Yeah, Nancy, there was three really different parts to this investigation,
- 7:46Speaker 5: and when you're talking about the search, that's really like
- 7:48Speaker 5: what we call the phase one of the investigation. She
- 7:51Speaker 5: went missing and immediately you heard there was several different
- 7:57Speaker 5: resources deployed to find her. The location of Cherry Peppini
- 8:03Speaker 5: was absolutely the first phase where we just want to
- 8:06Speaker 5: Time's never on your side when somebody goes missing. So
- 8:09Speaker 5: the sooner you can locate them or get a lead
- 8:13Speaker 5: on locating them, the better chances you are recovering that
- 8:16Speaker 5: personal live. So there was allied agencies asked to lend
- 8:22Speaker 5: us resources and most of those resources were in personnel.
- 8:28Speaker 5: As you heard, we had dogs, we had helicopters, we
- 8:30Speaker 5: had everything, an all out search in the community. The
- 8:34Speaker 5: community even joined in, you know, printing flyers and volunteer
- 8:38Speaker 5: people coming out and looking for her. It was an
- 8:41Speaker 5: all out effort to find Cherry at the beginning.
- 8:44Speaker 2: I remember exactly how this whole thing went down, and
- 8:48Speaker 2: the Sheriff's office and other agencies spared no resources trying
- 8:55Speaker 2: to find Cherry Pepinie. And what I hear about the
- 8:58Speaker 2: helicopter on my people have never seen it in real life,
- 9:01Speaker 2: but you've seen in the movies the helicopter flying close
- 9:04Speaker 2: to the ground overhead, which you know, helicopters can be
- 9:09Speaker 2: a pretty risky mode of transportation, but if you've got
- 9:13Speaker 2: to do it, you got to do it. But in
- 9:15Speaker 2: a suburban area, looking for her, flying over phone wires
- 9:20Speaker 2: and cell phone towers, looking for her at night with
- 9:23Speaker 2: a light shining down.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Describe how that works, Sheriff.
- 9:27Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, they have infrared technology. They have
- 9:33Speaker 5: a lot of different high end technology that goes into this,
- 9:39Speaker 5: not just in the helicopter, but on the ground as well.
- 9:43Speaker 5: There's efforts, there's people where a night vision, there's everything,
- 9:47Speaker 5: all all expense paid to locate this woman. And that's
- 9:54Speaker 5: one of the keys here, Nancy, is when you talk
- 9:57Speaker 5: about the exhausting efforts of all the agencies into this
- 10:01Speaker 5: initial search and throughout this investigation and the resources and
- 10:05Speaker 5: time and money spent on this all to find out
- 10:08Speaker 5: in the end that it's a fraud. It's very frustrating
- 10:11Speaker 5: and one thing I should tell you also to remember
- 10:15Speaker 5: that during the time Sherry Peppini went missing, I was
- 10:19Speaker 5: actually the neighboring police chief at the time, I was
- 10:22Speaker 5: not the sheriff, so I was lending resources from my
- 10:25Speaker 5: department to the sheriff's office in the attempt to find charity.
- 10:30Speaker 5: So everybody was.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Involved, and now to find out it's nothing but a
- 10:35Speaker 2: big fat lie.
- 10:40Speaker 1: I mean, this.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Woman knows no bounds in her lies. Take a listen
- 10:47Speaker 2: to our cut eight. Allison Sutton, a motorist who spots
- 10:52Speaker 2: the missing mom on the.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Side of the road.
- 10:54Speaker 12: I saw a blonde woman standing in like that V
- 11:01Speaker 12: shaped area that gets created between the right shoulder and
- 11:06Speaker 12: the left side of an off ramp. But I wasn't
- 11:10Speaker 12: quite sure where I was.
- 11:11Speaker 1: When I saw her.
- 11:13Speaker 12: I just caught a glimpse of her. The area where
- 11:18Speaker 12: she was is not well lit, so I didn't actually
- 11:22Speaker 12: see her until I was right up on her, which
- 11:25Speaker 12: really startled me, and it kind of took me a
- 11:28Speaker 12: few minutes to figure out what I'd seen.
- 11:33Speaker 1: And I went a couple.
- 11:35Speaker 12: Miles up the road to figure out where until I
- 11:39Speaker 12: saw a road sign so I knew where I was,
- 11:41Speaker 12: and then I pulled off onto the shoulder and I
- 11:43Speaker 12: called nine one one.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? You've driven by something and
- 11:46Speaker 1: you went whoa, whoa, whoa? What was that?
- 11:48Speaker 2: That's what Alison Sutton is telling our friend Craig Melvin.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Take a listener, cut nine.
- 11:53Speaker 12: I saw her very very quickly. Her face looked. I
- 12:00Speaker 12: thought her face was dirty, but based on what I
- 12:04Speaker 12: know now, I'm guessing that what I thought was dirt
- 12:06Speaker 12: on her face was the bruises. But it was it
- 12:11Speaker 12: was very very dark. I did not notice restraints. It
- 12:18Speaker 12: just it was so dark. I barely barely saw her.
- 12:23Speaker 12: And like I said, it was a flash because that
- 12:27Speaker 12: area is so dark and it was four thirty in
- 12:30Speaker 12: the morning.
- 12:32Speaker 11: Called you didn't go back after that?
- 12:35Speaker 1: I did not know.
- 12:37Speaker 12: I had my fourteen year old daughter in the car
- 12:40Speaker 12: with me, and we talked about going back, but the
- 12:45Speaker 12: nine to one one operator had me feeling confident that
- 12:51Speaker 12: law enforcement would take care of the person that I saw.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Think back, it was In November, Sheery Peppini left her
- 13:10Speaker 2: home for a jog and never came back for twenty
- 13:15Speaker 2: two days. Her family went through hell. She reappeared beaten,
- 13:23Speaker 2: tied up with a brand on her shoulder, one hundred
- 13:29Speaker 2: and fifty miles away from home, claiming she was kidnapped
- 13:34Speaker 2: a gunpoint by two female Hispanics. Yeah, what if somebody
- 13:41Speaker 2: had been arrested based on her big fat lie. Finally,
- 13:47Speaker 2: she was linked to her ex boyfriend through DNA evidence.
- 13:50Speaker 1: He came clean.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Her husband, Keith Peppini, rightfully filed for divorce and custody immediately.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Later that year, she accepted a plea deal admitted to
- 14:02Speaker 2: what she had done. She managed to plead to only
- 14:05Speaker 2: one count of mail fraud and to one count of
- 14:09Speaker 2: lawn to le law enforcement. And now she wants the
- 14:15Speaker 2: children that husband is fighting this tooth and nail. You
- 14:21Speaker 2: want to know why, take a listen to.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Hour cut sixth the Shasta County Sheriff pressor.
- 14:26Speaker 13: We are very estatic to report that Cherry Pepinie has
- 14:30Speaker 13: been located and has been reunited.
- 14:33Speaker 11: With her husband and family. On this day of Thanksgiving.
- 14:37Speaker 13: I'm happy to say that Sherry is now safe and
- 14:41Speaker 13: She has been treated at a area.
- 14:44Speaker 11: Hospital outside of Shasta County and for non life threatening injuries.
- 14:50Speaker 11: At about four point.
- 14:51Speaker 13: Thirty this morning, Chascuty Sheriff's office was notified that Cherry.
- 14:55Speaker 11: Peppini had been located. We learned that she was released
- 14:59Speaker 11: by her cap on a rural road from near High
- 15:02Speaker 11: five in Yolo County.
- 15:05Speaker 13: She was bound with restraints but was able to summon
- 15:09Speaker 13: from a passing help from a passing motorist on I
- 15:12Speaker 13: five near County Road seventeen, again in northern Yolo County.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Peppini admits it's all a big lie to Christie, Missouri
- 15:27Speaker 2: joining US Emmy Award winning investigative reporter. Do you remember
- 15:35Speaker 2: everybody looking for Sherry Peppini, The grid surges, the neighbors
- 15:40Speaker 2: in fear, no woman would go for a walk by yourself,
- 15:44Speaker 2: on and on, and it was all a big lie.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Christy Massurich.
- 15:50Speaker 14: It was the safe scene around the world. On billboards signs,
- 15:56Speaker 14: people were donating to go fund me so to pay
- 16:00Speaker 14: for neighborhood searches. And now, unfortunately people are having to
- 16:07Speaker 14: deal with the grim fact that this woman has now
- 16:10Speaker 14: been deemed a master manipulator.
- 16:13Speaker 2: I mean, whoa take a list in our cut eight.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Take this as Susie Suscbsla.
- 16:18Speaker 15: After years of sticking to her story that she was
- 16:21Speaker 15: abducted by two women, Sherry Peppini is reportedly ready now
- 16:25Speaker 15: to come clean and admit that she faked it all.
- 16:28Speaker 15: Cherry Peppini vanished from her reading home in twenty sixteen.
- 16:31Speaker 15: Weeks later, she was found wandering along the five Freeway,
- 16:35Speaker 15: bruised and branded. Now. At that time, she told police
- 16:38Speaker 15: two women had kidnapped and tortured her, But last month,
- 16:42Speaker 15: prosecutors charged her with making it all up. They say
- 16:46Speaker 15: instead of being abducted, she was actually hiding out with
- 16:48Speaker 15: an ex boyfriend in Costa Mesa. And now Peppini has
- 16:52Speaker 15: reached a deal with prosecutors and will admit that she
- 16:55Speaker 15: planned the entire hoax. Her lawyer says Peppini signed a
- 16:59Speaker 15: plea deal with federal prosecutors. Today she will plead guilty
- 17:02Speaker 15: to lying to a federal officer and to mail fraud.
- 17:06Speaker 2: You know what.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Joining me, Sheriff Michael Johnson.
- 17:12Speaker 2: It was the Shasta County Sheriff's office and your then
- 17:16Speaker 2: jurisdiction and so many others that joined together. There is
- 17:20Speaker 2: no way to count the man hours spent on finding
- 17:28Speaker 2: this spoiled brat mom of two that goes missing on
- 17:33Speaker 2: her stay at home day.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Both of her kids are in daycare. I don't know
- 17:38Speaker 1: what she's doing all day long.
- 17:40Speaker 2: She's obviously fabricating a crime in her pink jogging suit.
- 17:45Speaker 2: I wonder if she had her hair blow dry before
- 17:47Speaker 2: she took off. But long story short, to go shack
- 17:51Speaker 2: up with her ex boyfriend for weeks on end, starve herself,
- 17:58Speaker 2: beat herself, cut all our hair off.
- 18:02Speaker 1: I'm so mad at you. Anl and a half sheriff.
- 18:05Speaker 5: Doesn't tell them much like a supermom to me, does
- 18:07Speaker 5: it to you?
- 18:08Speaker 1: Oh no it doesn't, No, it doesn't.
- 18:12Speaker 12: I mean.
- 18:12Speaker 1: There are plenty of times moms feel tired. They don't want.
- 18:17Speaker 2: To clean the guinea pig cage, or cook dinner or
- 18:20Speaker 2: go to work.
- 18:21Speaker 1: They're exhausted.
- 18:23Speaker 2: But hiding in your ex boyfriend's apartment for several weeks
- 18:27Speaker 2: leading up to Thanksgiving, having your entire family and abject
- 18:32Speaker 2: fear that you're dead, I mean, and what it did
- 18:37Speaker 2: to the sheriffs and the local police out in a
- 18:40Speaker 2: helicopter at night. Is set at home with their own
- 18:43Speaker 2: families or solving real crimes sheriff with real victims that
- 18:49Speaker 2: are suffering.
- 18:50Speaker 5: Yeah, and you've hit all the points. It's frustrating to
- 18:54Speaker 5: us that, you know, at some point we created a code,
- 19:00Speaker 5: a finance code to start tracking our resources that we
- 19:03Speaker 5: had into this investigation. And it wasn't till well into
- 19:06Speaker 5: this investigation that that was done, and it got up
- 19:09Speaker 5: to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for us, just
- 19:12Speaker 5: as our agency. By the time this thing concluded, I'm
- 19:16Speaker 5: sure we had well more than that into the investigation.
- 19:20Speaker 5: And that's not even counting all the other agencies. And
- 19:23Speaker 5: that is the frustration, Nasty is who we put all
- 19:25Speaker 5: these this effort into Sherry Peppini and trying to recover
- 19:30Speaker 5: her and do it well bratt and chasing down false
- 19:33Speaker 5: suspects and oh yeah, what if.
- 19:35Speaker 2: You had actually made an arrest? She tried to blame
- 19:38Speaker 2: it on what too hispanic females.
- 19:40Speaker 5: Yes, she sure did. And you know what, in the
- 19:43Speaker 5: meantime all this is going on, we have other legitimate
- 19:47Speaker 5: cases that are not getting the attention that they should,
- 19:49Speaker 5: are being kind of pushed to the side because the
- 19:53Speaker 5: ex agency of this circumstance are so we thought.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Reminds me of Jesse Smollett, the big race faker and
- 19:59Speaker 2: his face hate crime. At least we knew he was alive, Okay,
- 20:03Speaker 2: we didn't have to worry that he was dead and
- 20:05Speaker 2: that his children would be left without a father to
- 20:07Speaker 2: raise them. I mean, here's another thing. It's not just
- 20:11Speaker 2: the money Mona CA joining me private investigator or Mona
- 20:15Speaker 2: Q investigation inside of Omaha Mona when used or at
- 20:19Speaker 2: least me, but I would work a case in the
- 20:22Speaker 2: District Attorney's office.
- 20:24Speaker 1: I worked it.
- 20:26Speaker 2: I worked it hard, out on the street till one
- 20:30Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning, up at five o'clock with
- 20:32Speaker 2: my investigator, trying to find witnesses in court at eight o'clock,
- 20:35Speaker 2: trying to get my evidence lined up so there would
- 20:38Speaker 2: not be any glitch in front of the jury, riding
- 20:41Speaker 2: out my direct and cross examinations, my closings, my openings,
- 20:45Speaker 2: getting the law to make sure my evidence got in
- 20:48Speaker 2: and to keep.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Their evidence out, anything I could do to further justice.
- 20:53Speaker 2: There was no rest, there were no dinners out nothing.
- 20:58Speaker 2: It was proved the cave. Investigate the case, and by
- 21:02Speaker 2: the time you're in it, you're so emotionally attached to it,
- 21:07Speaker 2: that anything other than a resolution is a personal sale.
- 21:13Speaker 1: I mean that's how I looked at my cases. They
- 21:15Speaker 1: were like my children at the time, very attached to
- 21:19Speaker 1: finding the truth.
- 21:20Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
- 21:21Speaker 3: I mean you become very invested in the case that
- 21:23Speaker 3: you work, the people you work for, you know, her family,
- 21:27Speaker 3: the community. But you work endlessly and tirelessly day and night,
- 21:32Speaker 3: trying to track down leads, trying to find witnesses, locate people,
- 21:36Speaker 3: you know, walking through the you know, the ditches the area,
- 21:40Speaker 3: just looking for any signs.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Yes, and it's exhausting, Monaque and to you, Sheriff Michael Johnson,
- 21:46Speaker 2: joining us, the Chassa County sheriff, the elected sheriff, you know, sheriff.
- 21:54Speaker 2: It's not like on TV and movies or in one
- 21:58Speaker 2: saying you're covered in dirt and sweat, blood, the next
- 22:00Speaker 2: one you're like lounging in a hot tub.
- 22:03Speaker 1: It's not like that. You go days, weeks, months working
- 22:09Speaker 1: a case.
- 22:10Speaker 2: I've had cases where I had to go to crackhouses
- 22:13Speaker 2: with a bunch of crack addicts in there, got a
- 22:16Speaker 2: shotgun pulled on me and somebody's front porch. Exhaustive hours
- 22:21Speaker 2: digging through glass shards and syringes to try to find
- 22:29Speaker 2: a projectile from a shotgun. I mean, I can't even
- 22:33Speaker 2: tell you what criminal investigators, lawyers, and sheriffs like yourself
- 22:39Speaker 2: go through to make a case and to think the
- 22:42Speaker 2: whole time, Sherry Peppenia is propped up on the sofa
- 22:46Speaker 2: at her ex boyfriend's house watching what Mary Povich.
- 22:50Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it what she put you
- 22:53Speaker 1: guys through and her own family is it's I don't
- 22:58Speaker 1: get it, Sheriff. Why am I the only one angry here?
- 23:02Speaker 5: You're not? I do feel I do feel sorry for
- 23:08Speaker 5: her unsuspecting family, because she did do her family as well.
- 23:12Speaker 5: But when you talk about this woman had a very
- 23:16Speaker 5: elaborate deception scheme. Going to we been talking about the investigation,
- 23:21Speaker 5: our investigators had to chase down so many leads and
- 23:25Speaker 5: vet out so many facts across state lines at times
- 23:29Speaker 5: because she had put all these other stories and misdirections
- 23:34Speaker 5: into place. That that's why it took so much time
- 23:38Speaker 5: in this investigation. We didn't want to falsely accuse anybody,
- 23:41Speaker 5: but as we started to unhold the mistruth to this
- 23:46Speaker 5: and her deception, we had to make sure that we
- 23:49Speaker 5: vetted out every single lead, and everything you're talking about
- 23:52Speaker 5: is right. It's exhausting, long.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Hours, mentally exhausting.
- 23:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Do you know how many times that I would comment
- 24:01Speaker 2: and send out please help find Sherry Peppini and I'd
- 24:04Speaker 2: read the facts. I still got pages and pages and
- 24:08Speaker 2: pages of notes and analysis, and so much of it
- 24:11Speaker 2: did not fit together from me. For instance, the fact
- 24:15Speaker 2: that her cell phone was sitting there and the earbuds
- 24:18Speaker 2: were neatly folded up and just sitting on top of
- 24:23Speaker 2: her phone, and I think the phone may have been
- 24:25Speaker 2: found on top of a mailbox or somewhere very it
- 24:29Speaker 2: was like thrown into the bushes. I had so many
- 24:32Speaker 2: problems with her story, But then Sheriff, I kept thinking, well,
- 24:37Speaker 2: I mean, would she goes so far to beat herself
- 24:40Speaker 2: and starve herself, break her own nose, brand herself. Didn't
- 24:44Speaker 2: she brand herself, chop off all her hair? Was she branded?
- 24:47Speaker 1: Sheriff? Yes, she was, Oh dear Lord in Heaven.
- 24:51Speaker 2: With what It's never been told what she was branded?
- 24:53Speaker 2: What were the letters?
- 24:54Speaker 1: What did it say?
- 24:55Speaker 5: Yeah, I was acurrence. It was a religious saying, and
- 24:59Speaker 5: I don't really recall exactly.
- 25:01Speaker 1: What religious saying. Yeah, yes, Oh, you know this.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Is straight Matthew Mangino, former District Attorney Lawrence County now
- 25:12Speaker 2: high profile lawyer, former member of the parole board, which
- 25:16Speaker 2: I don't like one bit that you paroled people and
- 25:19Speaker 2: author of the executioners told me and Gino it's straight
- 25:23Speaker 2: out of like a fifth grade girl's novel. Being abducted
- 25:29Speaker 2: and branded in your hair, chopped off a blah blah blah.
- 25:33Speaker 2: It sounded heinkey at the beginning, but I would not
- 25:37Speaker 2: come out and say it because the woman had a
- 25:40Speaker 2: broken nose, she was starved, she had cut off all
- 25:44Speaker 2: her hair, she was covered with bruises, even branded, and
- 25:48Speaker 2: I thought, okay, the facts are off, But.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Which she actually brand herself?
- 25:54Speaker 2: Would you go through all that break her own nose
- 25:57Speaker 2: and that was the other side to a.
- 26:00Speaker 5: Scale, Well, yeah, that's extraordinary.
- 26:02Speaker 16: I mean, you know she, you know, she.
- 26:03Speaker 8: Went to great measures to make this hope seem real,
- 26:10Speaker 8: you know, to physically harm herself, to brand herself, to
- 26:13Speaker 8: have her nose broken, all for the attention that she
- 26:19Speaker 8: that she might get after she comes back twenty two
- 26:22Speaker 8: days later. I mean, you know, this extravagant hoax is
- 26:26Speaker 8: wrong on so many different levels.
- 26:29Speaker 16: You know, it inhibits people for money to get involved
- 26:33Speaker 16: in the future.
- 26:34Speaker 8: When someone says they're missing, it's a diversion of police efforts.
- 26:40Speaker 8: You know, it's costly to the community.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Manjeno, I want to analyze something you just said.
- 26:45Speaker 2: A diversion of police efforts. You know, that's really like
- 26:50Speaker 2: putting perfume on the pig. You know, it's a little
- 26:52Speaker 2: bit of a euphemism. Hey, Sheriff Michael Johnson, did you
- 26:55Speaker 2: hear that, Matthew Mangino, police efforts?
- 27:00Speaker 1: Think about it.
- 27:01Speaker 2: How many women were being raped at that moment, how
- 27:04Speaker 2: many stores or homes were being robbed or home invaded,
- 27:09Speaker 2: How many missing children were being abducted at that moment?
- 27:14Speaker 1: What other crimes were happening?
- 27:15Speaker 2: Were people domestic violence, people women getting beaten, children getting
- 27:19Speaker 2: beaten and molested. That's what was happening when Sherry Peppini
- 27:25Speaker 2: had the sheriffs up in their helicopter and doing grid
- 27:28Speaker 2: searches and putting up flyers.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Yeah, what about that, Mangino?
- 27:35Speaker 7: All right?
- 27:35Speaker 16: And I agree with you, And it goes beyond that.
- 27:38Speaker 16: I mean the fear that they created in the community
- 27:40Speaker 16: that hey, you know this this young woman was abducted
- 27:44Speaker 16: and no one knows where she's at. And then when
- 27:47Speaker 16: she finally returns, there's this racist element that she creates
- 27:52Speaker 16: two gun wielding his Spanish cap for three weeks.
- 27:57Speaker 2: You know, I remember when Susan Smith killed her children
- 28:03Speaker 2: and blamed the black guy.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Blame the black man, all right.
- 28:07Speaker 2: So I was sitting in court, Jackie, with my trial partner,
- 28:12Speaker 2: who helped me a great deal turn into a judge.
- 28:13Speaker 2: By the way Herman Slim and the composite of the
- 28:17Speaker 2: fake kidnapper of the children came out of Mike Herman.
- 28:20Speaker 2: That looks a lot like you. Look at this, he went, Oh,
- 28:24Speaker 2: I said, actually, I think you were.
- 28:25Speaker 1: Born with me when a children were i'mductan, so you
- 28:27Speaker 1: know you're safe.
- 28:28Speaker 2: But what he just said, Sheriff Johnson, did you hear that,
- 28:31Speaker 2: the element of blaming the Hispanic women.
- 28:35Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. And you know what that doesn't You
- 28:37Speaker 5: got a nerve? What that does a law enforcement is
- 28:39Speaker 5: it gives us. You know, she created this, these sketches,
- 28:42Speaker 5: and so now we're contacting people and questioning people that
- 28:46Speaker 5: even resemble that falsely. You know, it's unfair.
- 28:51Speaker 2: He just gave me a flashback. Sheriff Johnson.
- 28:54Speaker 1: You know the.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Big albums of purps mugshots. I remember sitting up at
- 29:01Speaker 2: like one o'clock in the morning, I found a witness
- 29:04Speaker 2: and just going through page after page after page looking
- 29:10Speaker 2: to see if any of these people look familiar as
- 29:14Speaker 2: the killer.
- 29:15Speaker 1: It was triple homicide of my dad.
- 29:17Speaker 2: But I could just see you putting together those two
- 29:20Speaker 2: composites I remember them well, and showing them to this
- 29:25Speaker 2: person and that person. Oh it's so intensive, Sheriff Johnson.
- 29:31Speaker 1: I know it is, you know, Sheriff Johnson.
- 29:34Speaker 2: I've still got you. We heard Matthew Mangino. I think
- 29:38Speaker 2: it's a pretty good guess on his part. Two say
- 29:41Speaker 2: she did it for attention?
- 29:43Speaker 1: Did we ever figure out why she did it not?
- 29:47Speaker 5: You know, that's the one thing that I was waiting
- 29:51Speaker 5: for to come out in the trial. No, all I
- 29:53Speaker 5: can tell you is that calculated, narcisistic type of behavior
- 29:59Speaker 5: that she did displayed through this whole thing is all
- 30:02Speaker 5: self serving right up now until the end when she
- 30:06Speaker 5: enters a flee agreement. The only reason she pled in
- 30:09Speaker 5: this case is because she's trying to save herself for
- 30:13Speaker 5: selfish reasons. Again, and they put out this statement of
- 30:17Speaker 5: remorse by her, which I'm quite sure she didn't say.
- 30:20Speaker 5: It was crafted, probably by her attorney, and just don't
- 30:24Speaker 5: buy any of it. So I was hoping in the
- 30:26Speaker 5: trial we would get a better idea of why she
- 30:29Speaker 5: did it. But if I had to guess, I'd just
- 30:31Speaker 5: say it's that same typical selfish behavior.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Oh, the whole thing about Oh, I'm bored, I'm bored
- 30:39Speaker 2: being a stay at home mom. You know how many
- 30:41Speaker 2: working moms that have to work would love to be
- 30:45Speaker 2: a stay at home mom because they're trying to be
- 30:48Speaker 2: the stay at home mom and do all the things
- 30:50Speaker 2: that mom does and work at the same time.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I mean it's hard.
- 30:56Speaker 17: Nancy.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Uh oh, here it comes, and she arnold. I just
- 31:02Speaker 1: did it for attention.
- 31:03Speaker 2: There's something else there, and don't Yes, there is something else.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Insane because she's not she's crazy. She's crazy like a fox.
- 31:11Speaker 2: I'm telling you that.
- 31:12Speaker 17: And she is also not a narcissist. She is a sociopath.
- 31:18Speaker 17: She is the definition of a sociopath. She knows the
- 31:23Speaker 17: difference between right and wrong, and she has no conscience.
- 31:26Speaker 17: Because this is not the first bad thing that she's
- 31:30Speaker 17: done to her family. It has escalated and escalated and
- 31:33Speaker 17: now this and like you said, how selfish? And then
- 31:38Speaker 17: how could you be thinking of anyone? She's not thinking
- 31:42Speaker 17: of anyone.
- 31:43Speaker 1: And by the.
- 31:43Speaker 17: Way, typically sociopaths and narcissist are not really capable of love.
- 31:49Speaker 17: So she's got this family you know that she can
- 31:52Speaker 17: portray and of course she looks like the best mom
- 31:57Speaker 17: in the world.
- 32:04Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Sherry Peppini back in court.
- 32:13Speaker 2: I recall when she was confronted with evidence of her hoax. Man,
- 32:19Speaker 2: this woman can lie. Would you let your children be
- 32:23Speaker 2: with a mom like that? I'm not the church lady.
- 32:27Speaker 2: I'm not making a moral judgment. I'm talking about the
- 32:30Speaker 2: safety of children. When you don't know a horse, look
- 32:34Speaker 2: at her track record, when you don't know what's going
- 32:37Speaker 2: to happen, look at what has already happened. Do you
- 32:41Speaker 2: blame Keith Peppeni for fighting over visitation? Let me refresh
- 32:51Speaker 2: your recollection. Sheriff Michael Johns from the Shasta Counties Sheriff's
- 32:56Speaker 2: Office or.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Christy jump in if you know this.
- 33:00Speaker 2: There have been a lot of issues with her before
- 33:02Speaker 2: this is that she had kicked in her family home,
- 33:07Speaker 2: like her our original family, like mom and dad family
- 33:11Speaker 2: or thank to burglary, there have been some something in
- 33:15Speaker 2: her background that's it's like a waving a big wig
- 33:19Speaker 2: flag in front of a bull.
- 33:21Speaker 1: I mean, you can't.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Help but notice that what was it she had done
- 33:25Speaker 2: in the past, Sheriff Johnson.
- 33:27Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't recall that one.
- 33:28Speaker 1: So I recall it.
- 33:30Speaker 5: Hey, I do?
- 33:30Speaker 14: I hate Nancy rolling back from the sheriff rolling back
- 33:34Speaker 14: from this case. She scams the ex boyfriend, telling him
- 33:39Speaker 14: that her husband is beating her and her family is
- 33:43Speaker 14: not helping her. And she weaves this narrative for almost
- 33:48Speaker 14: a year before she disappears. That's why he allows her
- 33:51Speaker 14: to hold up in his apartment.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of the drama, the story she came up with,
- 33:58Speaker 2: take a listen to our cut eighteen SISSYSUCBSLA.
- 34:02Speaker 15: After years of sticking to her story that she was
- 34:04Speaker 15: abducted by two women, Sheery Peppini is reportedly ready now
- 34:08Speaker 15: to come clean and admit that she faked it all.
- 34:12Speaker 15: Chery Peppini vanished from her reading home in twenty sixteen.
- 34:15Speaker 15: Weeks later, she was found wandering along the five Freeway,
- 34:18Speaker 15: bruised and branded. Now. At that time, she told police
- 34:22Speaker 15: two women had kidnapped and tortured her, but last month
- 34:25Speaker 15: prosecutors charged her with making it all up. They say,
- 34:29Speaker 15: instead of being abducted, she was actually hiding out with
- 34:32Speaker 15: an ex boyfriend in Costa Mesa. And now Peppini has
- 34:35Speaker 15: reached a deal with prosecutors and will admit that she
- 34:39Speaker 15: planned the entire hoax. Her lawyer says Peppini signed a
- 34:43Speaker 15: plea deal with federal prosecutors today she will plead guilty
- 34:46Speaker 15: to lying to a federal officer and to mail fraud.
- 34:49Speaker 2: You know, what if you'd made an rare Sheriff Johnson,
- 34:53Speaker 2: What if you actually found a Hispanic woman, or, as
- 34:57Speaker 2: I believe she said, a two Mexican women. What if
- 35:01Speaker 2: you had actually found somebody that matched that sketch to
- 35:04Speaker 2: the point that you arrested them based on what Sherry
- 35:07Speaker 2: Peppini said, Well.
- 35:09Speaker 5: You know what had happened then, did not be in
- 35:10Speaker 5: a lawsuit for false arrest, A big.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Fat lawsuit too. I founded Sheriff lit'sten know to this.
- 35:16Speaker 2: When she was eighteen, her sister accused her of kicking
- 35:19Speaker 2: in the back door of the family schaste Lake home.
- 35:22Speaker 2: The same day, her parents, Richard and Loretta, called police
- 35:26Speaker 2: to document the incident as vandalism and claimed she had
- 35:29Speaker 2: taken off to somewhere in reading. When she was twenty one,
- 35:34Speaker 2: her parents made another call to the cops, saying she
- 35:36Speaker 2: stole money from.
- 35:36Speaker 1: The father's bank account.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Then the mother reported Sherry was harming herself and blaming
- 35:44Speaker 2: her injuries on her the mother, and the mother was
- 35:47Speaker 2: afraid that she, the mother would be get dragged into
- 35:51Speaker 2: defects Department Family Children's Services, So she called herself and went, hey, my.
- 35:56Speaker 1: Daughter is hurting herself and blaming me.
- 35:58Speaker 2: I mean, Sheriff Michael Johnson, when you don't know a horse,
- 36:03Speaker 2: look at a track record.
- 36:05Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, and all that was taken into consideration as
- 36:09Speaker 5: things started to unfold. And you know what another hard
- 36:12Speaker 5: part of this was Nancy is as we started to
- 36:16Speaker 5: unfold this lies that are being told by her, we
- 36:19Speaker 5: had to lay silent. Why we took you know, some
- 36:23Speaker 5: we took some criticism from the media, the family and
- 36:26Speaker 5: everybody else. And we were knowing that this was a lie,
- 36:30Speaker 5: and but we had to keep all I hope it
- 36:33Speaker 5: wasn't may whyet until we all the fact.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Now, I mean at the beginning, Sheriff. I find it
- 36:40Speaker 2: hard to believe I would have criticized.
- 36:41Speaker 1: You because I didn't see you at the beginning.
- 36:44Speaker 2: I know, but I always assume it's a Sheriff Johnson
- 36:47Speaker 2: because at the beginning her story stumped the whole thing.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Something It just wasn't right.
- 36:53Speaker 2: The whole thing, And we thought, and then showing up
- 36:56Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving date, what now?
- 36:58Speaker 5: I said, yeah, and there was little and you hit
- 37:02Speaker 5: on a couple of them, some of the evidence. At
- 37:04Speaker 5: the front of the investigation, we were scratching our head
- 37:08Speaker 5: and not thinking thing for right as well.
- 37:10Speaker 1: But I mean, what are you gonna do?
- 37:12Speaker 2: Bad mouth a victim who's had her nose broken and
- 37:14Speaker 2: lost all that weight, chopped her hair off and branded herself.
- 37:17Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought?
- 37:18Speaker 2: Then you've got the ex boyfriend dragged into the whole thing. Hey,
- 37:23Speaker 2: another thing, Sheriff Johnson, I agree with you. Her statement says,
- 37:28Speaker 2: you know, she didn't write this. I'm deeply ashamed from
- 37:31Speaker 2: my behavior and so sorry for the pain I caused.
- 37:34Speaker 2: I don't believe that for one minute. I don't think
- 37:37Speaker 2: she's sorry she did it. She's sorry she got caught.
- 37:39Speaker 5: Sheriff Yep, that's exactly right. That's what she's sorry about.
- 37:42Speaker 5: She's sorry that she got caught.
- 37:44Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not sorry he did it, but I
- 37:46Speaker 2: sure don't want to go to hell for it. Okay, So, Christy,
- 37:49Speaker 2: Missourich the thirty thousand dollars she stole from a victim's
- 37:53Speaker 2: compensation fund to pay off her credit card.
- 37:56Speaker 14: What lovely?
- 37:57Speaker 1: Wait?
- 37:57Speaker 2: Tell me that she had thirty thousand dollars a credit
- 38:00Speaker 2: card debt and then paid it for the victims compensation fund.
- 38:03Speaker 14: Yes, and go fund be sites. Also that family and
- 38:07Speaker 14: friends had set up so when she returned back home
- 38:12Speaker 14: she had a payday. And again her story got so insane.
- 38:18Speaker 14: Her memory was hazy because her head was covered by
- 38:21Speaker 14: a pillow case. But she heard mariachi music playing. But
- 38:25Speaker 14: maybe that didn't happen because she might have been hit
- 38:28Speaker 14: by a stun gun.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Did you just say mariachi music?
- 38:31Speaker 14: I absolutely did.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Monique probably an investigator with moni Que investigations.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Omaha.
- 38:38Speaker 2: The not just stereotypes, but the harmful and hateful stereotypes.
- 38:44Speaker 2: This woman is conjuring up right now. I mean again,
- 38:48Speaker 2: It makes me think of Jesse Smilette. They star an
- 38:50Speaker 2: empire who conjures up hatred for black Americans.
- 38:56Speaker 1: Hatred for gay people and then claims.
- 38:59Speaker 2: He was attacked with bleach to make his skin white
- 39:04Speaker 2: and put a noose around his neck. Some of the
- 39:06Speaker 2: most hateful things, just straight out of hell that you
- 39:11Speaker 2: could say. And now you've got this woman claimbing to
- 39:15Speaker 2: quote Mexican women abduct her, beat her, torture her, and
- 39:23Speaker 2: play mariachi music.
- 39:24Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, I read that.
- 39:26Speaker 7: She.
- 39:27Speaker 3: I believe she said that she had to listen to
- 39:30Speaker 3: horrible mariachi or Hispanic music while she was being kidnapped
- 39:35Speaker 3: and tortured in a closet.
- 39:37Speaker 5: That was part of the torture.
- 39:38Speaker 3: Was listening to that type of music.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Well, not everyone would think that that was torture. Take
- 39:44Speaker 2: a listener. Cut twenty three. This is Lila Luciano at CBS.
- 39:48Speaker 10: Sure I described her assailants as two Hispanic female adults.
- 39:52Speaker 18: According to the FBI, she accused the women of brutally
- 39:55Speaker 18: torturing her. The hunt was on and new fears settled
- 39:59Speaker 18: in where Latinos were less than ten percent of the population.
- 40:03Speaker 5: A lot of.
- 40:04Speaker 2: People would tell me, you know, and they had to
- 40:06Speaker 2: be Spanic, and they had to be they said, Well, that
- 40:08Speaker 2: doesn't give.
- 40:09Speaker 4: Them a good name either, But so there was shame
- 40:11Speaker 4: in the community.
- 40:12Speaker 19: I guess she specifically picked out a gender and a
- 40:16Speaker 19: race to name us the suspect. So any Hispanic woman
- 40:20Speaker 19: at that time, I'm sure it's getting an eyebrow raised
- 40:22Speaker 19: and looking in there wondering, oh, where if she could
- 40:25Speaker 19: be connected or one of the suspects.
- 40:26Speaker 18: So people were being questioned and stopped and asked the
- 40:29Speaker 18: questions by law enforcement.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Yes, they were afraid to go out and together in
- 40:33Speaker 2: one car or a van, two women.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Who'd be suspicious, Yeah, to be suspicious or to.
- 40:37Speaker 2: Be stereotyped, to be insulted and take a listener twenty
- 40:41Speaker 2: Kelly Hartungu ABC.
- 40:42Speaker 20: Sherry Peppini says she's ashamed of her behavior and sorry
- 40:45Speaker 20: for the pain she caused. Just as she gets ready
- 40:48Speaker 20: to plead guilty in court, So the agencies who spent
- 40:50Speaker 20: more than five years uncovering her lies, they feel some
- 40:53Speaker 20: relief and closure, but also frustration because taking this plea
- 40:57Speaker 20: deal means she'll likely spend months, not a year, in jail.
- 41:02Speaker 20: Shechery peppinie back in federal court to wave indictment, opening
- 41:05Speaker 20: the door to plead guilty.
- 41:06Speaker 1: In her own kidnapping hopes.
- 41:08Speaker 21: She had no other choice, because she's taught and she
- 41:11Speaker 21: knows as if this thing comes to actually goes to trial,
- 41:15Speaker 21: and we've started parading in the witnesses and all the evidence,
- 41:18Speaker 21: so we've got she's got nowhere to go.
- 41:20Speaker 11: I'm very confident we would have got a conviction.
- 41:22Speaker 19: If that went to trial.
- 41:24Speaker 20: Facing trial for thirty five felony charges and the possibility
- 41:27Speaker 20: of as many as twenty five years in jail, the
- 41:30Speaker 20: mother of two, accepting a plea deal, her recommended sentence
- 41:33Speaker 20: reduced to no more than fourteen months. Through tears in
- 41:36Speaker 20: the courtroom, Peppini dabbing her eyes with a tissue, her
- 41:39Speaker 20: attorney consoling her as she nervously answered the judges questions
- 41:42Speaker 20: to ensure she understands what happens next.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Dabbing her eyes in the courtroom. People aren't consoling her.
- 41:51Speaker 2: I mean, Sheriff Johnson is the one that needs to
- 41:53Speaker 2: be consoled. And everybody that spent their time, blood, sweat
- 41:56Speaker 2: and tears trying to find Cherry Peppini.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Now she's like babbing her eyes in the court. You
- 42:01Speaker 1: know what, Just stop, Peppenie.
- 42:03Speaker 2: You've done enough, Angie Arnold, for Pete's sake, is is
- 42:08Speaker 2: this Sherry.
- 42:09Speaker 1: Pepenie's world and we're just living in it. Is it
- 42:11Speaker 1: all about her?
- 42:12Speaker 17: Well, she thinks it is, and she's creating this world
- 42:15Speaker 17: that she wants to live in. She feeds off of
- 42:18Speaker 17: this chaos, and she creates more and more chaos to
- 42:23Speaker 17: keep us all wondering, like we all are on this show,
- 42:27Speaker 17: right every I'm wondering.
- 42:30Speaker 3: This is terrible.
- 42:31Speaker 17: This is a terrible thought. I'm going to share with you.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Oh boy, go ahead, don't hold back now.
- 42:35Speaker 17: I'm wondering how much fun her and her boyfriend were
- 42:38Speaker 17: having shaving her head, giving her bruises. I mean, I wonder,
- 42:47Speaker 17: Oh my gosh, we're all going, oh my god, this
- 42:49Speaker 17: poor woman, her beautiful blonde hair was shaved and everything.
- 42:54Speaker 17: It was probably they were probably enjoying every minute of it.
- 42:58Speaker 17: They were getting some sort of ode satisfaction out of
- 43:01Speaker 17: doing this to her. On top of everything else.
- 43:03Speaker 14: The ex boyfriend went along with her tail because she
- 43:09Speaker 14: kept telling him her husband was going to do horrific
- 43:12Speaker 14: things if she went back home. And she's done this
- 43:16Speaker 14: in the past. And Nancy hate to bring up, you know,
- 43:20Speaker 14: the stereotyping, but you and I lived through Jennifer Wilbanks
- 43:24Speaker 14: the runaway bride outside of Atlanta when she went out
- 43:28Speaker 14: for a run and she was kidnapped by a Latino
- 43:32Speaker 14: man and turned up in New Mexico.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Oh, I remember it really well. Take a listen to this.
- 43:38Speaker 22: Police investigators made an afternoon visit to the lakefront home
- 43:41Speaker 22: in Georgia, where Jennifer Wilbanks is now in seclusion, last
- 43:45Speaker 22: seen publicly hiding under a blanket as she left for
- 43:47Speaker 22: New Mexico. The case of the runaway broad may now
- 43:50Speaker 22: lead to criminal charges and it did.
- 43:53Speaker 1: I remember it really well.
- 43:55Speaker 2: Christy Massa climbing that Hispanic male sex assault at her
- 43:59Speaker 2: and Winstanlye grabbed her the night before her wedding. She
- 44:03Speaker 2: was a runaway bron and she ended up cutting grass
- 44:05Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks.
- 44:07Speaker 14: At the end of it, she had absolutely no guilt
- 44:09Speaker 14: or remorse. When we were questioning her upon her return
- 44:12Speaker 14: back to Atlanta, she laughed at cameras and she basically
- 44:17Speaker 14: like this young woman Sherry thought the whole thing was
- 44:21Speaker 14: a game.
- 44:22Speaker 2: Well, it's not a game, and it was no game
- 44:25Speaker 2: for a law enforcement that literally spent blood, sweat and
- 44:30Speaker 2: tears trying to find this mom of two much less
- 44:33Speaker 2: what this whole thing did to her family.
- 44:36Speaker 14: Here is one final fact in this story. So after
- 44:39Speaker 14: this lengthy investigation and all of these lies are uncovered,
- 44:45Speaker 14: Keith Panini filed for divorce from Sherry and wants full
- 44:50Speaker 14: custody of their kids. His thought process that Sherry was
- 44:55Speaker 14: acting erratically for these past few years while telling this
- 45:00Speaker 14: sordid tale of lies to her own children about her kidnapping.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Cherry Peppinie is back in court fighting for more visitation
- 45:12Speaker 2: and cash. Says she doesn't want her ex to show
- 45:15Speaker 2: her children the Hulu docuseries about her crimes. After being
- 45:20Speaker 2: exposed for her very intricate hoax involving self inflicted bruises
- 45:26Speaker 2: and even branding her own skin, she got eighteen months
- 45:30Speaker 2: behind bars. Now recall, husband Keith Peppini divorced her and
- 45:35Speaker 2: got full custody of their two children. He said her
- 45:38Speaker 2: disturbance cause quote heartbreaking trauma for the children.
- 45:42Speaker 1: I guess it did.
- 45:44Speaker 2: He reiterated he was unaware of her scheme and even
- 45:48Speaker 2: sought help from a hostage negotiator during her disappearance. But
- 45:54Speaker 2: now Puppeni fires back, claiming her ex is quote reopening
- 45:58Speaker 2: old wounds to the detriment of their children. According to
- 46:03Speaker 2: court officials, Peppini appeared in a Shassa County court on
- 46:07Speaker 2: issues regarding visitation, child custody, and attorneys fees. While she's
- 46:14Speaker 2: battling that out in court, let's don't forget what she
- 46:19Speaker 2: put her family and everybody else through. We wait as
- 46:26Speaker 2: just as unfals.
- 46:28Speaker 1: Goodbye, friend,