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Chuck in the Morning 9/24 H4: Ryon Healy, Mike Sando & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: It's time for Chuck's weekly visit with Ryan Healy. Brought
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Speaker 3: All right, it is Chuck Powell, Anders Hirsch, and Travis
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Speaker 3: Boger with you here on this Thursday and joining us
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Speaker 3: now on the program. Former Mariner, now part of the
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Speaker 3: Mariners TV broadcast.
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Speaker 2: And, of course, we found him first.
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Speaker 3: We've had him as one of our analysts here on
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Speaker 3: the Chuck in the Mornings show here for.
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Speaker 2: A couple of years. We love him. We really do.
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Speaker 3: We really love having him around. We like getting his
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Speaker 3: two cents on the M's. Joining us now is Ryan Healy.
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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
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Speaker 4: I'm doing wonderful.
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Speaker 5: Apologize for my lack of professionalism today. I'm not in
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Speaker 5: front of the microphone in the office, but regardless, I'm
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Speaker 5: going to show up for KJR because you guys have
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Speaker 5: been great to me.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, I miss seeing your face. You know,
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Speaker 3: we always get Ryan with his hat on. And his
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Speaker 3: perfectly groomed little beard thing.
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Speaker 2: That he's got going on. I get jealous whenever I
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Speaker 2: see it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And you're always, like, in a different location
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Speaker 3: as well, it seems. So, anyway, we'll just do it
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Speaker 3: over the phone. We'll make do, but we'll correct this
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Speaker 3: in future days.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough.
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Speaker 2: Fair enough.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk some Mariners baseball. What do you
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Speaker 3: got for me today?
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to find some really positive things for you
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Speaker 3: to react to, but we're going to find some here today.
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Speaker 2: But let's start with this. There are four games to go.
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Speaker 3: Slightest chances possible of making the playoffs. Fans have given up.
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Speaker 3: How does an MLB player kind of approach a series
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Speaker 3: like this where there's still a chance, no matter how
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Speaker 3: slight it is, and you're still a professional, and at
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Speaker 3: the very least, you're finishing out the string. So what's
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Speaker 3: the mindset of a player as they get ready to
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Speaker 3: play baseball tonight?
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Speaker 5: Well, as you're preparing to play in these last couple games, they're...
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Speaker 5: feels a little bit like there's a light at the
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Speaker 5: end of the tunnel. And some of these player reactions
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Speaker 5: fans might not love, but it's been an eight-month grind
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Speaker 5: from spring training until this weekend when there's four games
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Speaker 5: staring in front of you and off-season where you can
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Speaker 5: actually recover, rest, spend some time with your family. So
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Speaker 5: you're waking up, you're feeling how sore your body is,
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Speaker 5: and you're saying, man, in a couple weeks I'm not
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Speaker 5: going to feel this sore.
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Speaker 4: It's going to be really nice.
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Speaker 5: There's probably a couple statistical things that you'd like to
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Speaker 5: accomplish in the last weekend of, you know, there's one
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Speaker 5: or two homers left out there that I can go get.
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Speaker 5: I really want to do that. Maybe a couple stolen
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Speaker 5: bases I need to get. Depending if I'm playing for
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Speaker 5: a contract next year, let me go bring the effort
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Speaker 5: and energy to showcase my defensive versatility.
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Speaker 4: Let's put together some professional bats.
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Speaker 5: It kind of comes down to what are you going
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Speaker 5: to prioritize individually as a player?
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Speaker 4: Like, what's my goal for this game?
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Speaker 5: But it doesn't ever take away, Chuck, from the fact
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Speaker 5: that you want to win these games. Most importantly for
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Speaker 5: the fan base that has supported you through a very
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Speaker 5: disappointing season and every player knows that you hear it
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Speaker 5: in their voices, you read it in the articles, in
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Speaker 5: the post-game interviews of just how frustrated and lack of
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Speaker 5: answers that they all individually have. Logan Gilbert's been very
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Speaker 5: vulnerable with that and I respect him a ton for it.
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Speaker 5: So winning is obviously on your mind, but At this point,
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Speaker 5: you're looking ahead to like, okay, I'm four days away
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Speaker 5: from an offseason where I can start to chip away
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Speaker 5: at maybe what went wrong for me individually as a
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Speaker 5: player this season.
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Speaker 3: You know, as much as a lot of Mariner fans
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Speaker 3: think that this has just been a disastrous stretch for
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Speaker 3: the Mariners, they've been a winning team that has played
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Speaker 3: meaningful games all the way to the very end of
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Speaker 3: the season, very end of the season for five consecutive years.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Logan Gilbert's really never played on a team
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Speaker 3: that didn't play a game that mattered in the standings.
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Speaker 3: But he's probably going to pitch his last game this season,
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Speaker 3: his first game ever, without any meaning to the game
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Speaker 3: other than just personal pride and being a professional.
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Speaker 2: And it also might be the last game that he.
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Speaker 3: Ever pitches as a Mariner, depending on what happens in
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Speaker 3: this offseason. J.P., who was your teammate, might be playing
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Speaker 3: his last game as a Mariner, and it won't be
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Speaker 3: in a meaningful fashion. How odd is that going to be?
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Speaker 3: How difficult is that going to be for those couple guys?
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Speaker 5: You're going to see some big emotions for that, and
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Speaker 5: obviously the players that have their contracts ending with no
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Speaker 5: guarantee of returning, it's going to hit them a little
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Speaker 5: bit harder. I can imagine they're going to take their
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Speaker 5: time a little bit longer these next couple days getting
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Speaker 5: out of the clubhouse postgame, looking forward to getting to
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Speaker 5: the yard a little bit earlier, just to soak in
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Speaker 5: the last couple moments. When it comes to the players'
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Speaker 5: perspective for those things, it's out of your control. You
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Speaker 5: have no idea what's If they maybe offer JP a
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Speaker 5: one-year return or deal, maybe a lower AAV for him
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Speaker 5: to come back and be a veteran presence on that team.
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Speaker 5: No guarantee Logan Gilbert gets traded, but the possibility does
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Speaker 5: exist with how this team has performed, obviously. So how
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Speaker 5: the individual player navigates this, it's going to be heavy.
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Speaker 5: It's going to be emotional. I loved Logan's comments about like,
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Speaker 5: My job is to go out there and pitch. Whether
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Speaker 5: it's the most meaningful game of the season or not,
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Speaker 5: I'm going to go do my job. I know he
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Speaker 5: doesn't feel great with how his last start went this week,
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Speaker 5: and he's looking forward to a chance to finish on
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Speaker 5: a high note this weekend. I believe he's scheduled to
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Speaker 5: throw the last game of the season on Sunday, so
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Speaker 5: I know he's looking forward to that. I expect the
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Speaker 5: same guy to show up. compete the way that he
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Speaker 5: has all season long whether it's perfect or not Logan
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Speaker 5: has been the leader and the ace of this staff
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Speaker 5: and I know he wants to finish the season that way.
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Speaker 3: I would think an agent at this level the words
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Speaker 3: they hate the most are hometown discount to hear um
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Speaker 3: but do you think Logan is the type his relationship
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Speaker 3: with Cal his relationship with the fan base I mean
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Speaker 3: those pitchers and that starting rotation they're not teammates those
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Speaker 3: guys are brothers And they are the best friends out there.
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Speaker 3: And so do you think that if they came to
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Speaker 3: him and they can't pay the $ 40 million per year
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Speaker 3: price tag that right now number two or one starting
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Speaker 3: pitchers are getting on the open market. Do you read
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Speaker 3: that maybe he's a guy that will give him the
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Speaker 3: hometown discount to stay as a Mariner? I know that's
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Speaker 3: asking you to look into things that you don't know,
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Speaker 3: but do you get that impression from him and his
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Speaker 3: personality and having been around him the last year?
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Speaker 5: I know as a player, you want to prioritize the
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Speaker 5: comfort and just the familiarity of an organization that has
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Speaker 5: developed you and you've grown up with. And until you
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Speaker 5: leave the organization that drafted you and you debuted with
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Speaker 5: and go.
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Speaker 4: Elsewhere, you really start to realize how.
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Speaker 5: how valued you were in the relationships that you grew
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Speaker 5: up with, with that team, not even just in the
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Speaker 5: big leagues, but in the minor leagues, all the rankings, you,
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Speaker 5: you have these lifelong friends and you know, yeah, the
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Speaker 5: money is really great. Um, but when you go somewhere else,
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Speaker 5: it's just completely different environment and players do it all
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Speaker 5: the time. I'm not saying Logan couldn't do it and
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Speaker 5: be very successful, but I do know how much he
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Speaker 5: loves pitching in Seattle and pitching for Mariners fans and
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Speaker 5: for this organization.
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Speaker 4: And You know, he's.
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Speaker 5: Been vocal about what the ultimate goal is and how
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Speaker 5: disappointed he is and how the season went. If there
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Speaker 5: was a discount, I think he would be willing. I
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Speaker 5: don't know Logan well enough to know what his financial
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Speaker 5: obligations or motivations are when it comes to that. It's
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Speaker 5: pretty clear when some guys are like, no, he's going
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Speaker 5: to go maximize the market. But you would have thought
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Speaker 5: that that might have gotten done before the season, right?
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Speaker 5: With a guy like Logan Gilbert, like that would have...
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Speaker 5: that would have transpired more in spring, would have been
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Speaker 5: more of a storyline, especially with how few there were
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Speaker 5: within this organization in spring training.
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Speaker 4: It was smooth sailing.
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Speaker 5: You would have thought that conversation might have a little
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Speaker 5: bit and had some legs to it, but it really didn't.
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Speaker 4: So I would be surprised.
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Speaker 5: And maybe it could have given an ultimatum this offseason, like, hey,
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Speaker 5: we can offer you this extension at a slightly discounted price,
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Speaker 5: or we're going to have to explore the trade market.
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Speaker 5: And maybe that's how the Mariners attack this, you know,
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Speaker 5: negotiation with Logan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Ryan Healy is with us, former Mariner, of course, part
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Speaker 3: of Mariners TV. And we've been leaning on him for
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Speaker 3: his baseball. Mariners thoughts here for the last couple of
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Speaker 3: years here on Chuck and Buck and now Chuck in
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Speaker 3: the morning, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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Speaker 2: Brian Wu, I mean, he's pitching tonight.
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Speaker 3: He's looking like he's going to finish this season strong,
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Speaker 3: or at least he has been as of late.
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Speaker 2: I looked this up, Brian. Anders and I have been
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Speaker 2: talking about it. He has a 3-9 war.
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Speaker 3: That's the 18th best among starting pitchers in Major League Baseball.
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Speaker 3: That means he's pitched at a number one starter level
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Speaker 3: this season, even though it really never has felt that
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Speaker 3: way all season long. I know he had his road woes,
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Speaker 3: but I think we need to acknowledge Brian Wu had
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Speaker 3: a lot better season than it felt like this year.
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Speaker 2: Don't you agree?
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Speaker 4: There's no argument.
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Speaker 5: And he responded to poor outings and answered it immediately
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Speaker 5: with a spectacular one. My feeling is that he set
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Speaker 5: the bar so high for himself last year with the
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Speaker 5: consistency of going six-plus innings and just being that workhorse
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Speaker 5: all season long, where if he didn't do that plus more,
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Speaker 5: it didn't feel like he took the next step in
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Speaker 5: his career. And a great major leaguer isn't someone that
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Speaker 5: is always topping the year prior.
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Speaker 4: It's someone that's able to.
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Speaker 5: Maintain a steady pace of excellence, and that's exactly what
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Speaker 5: Brian Wu has done this season. If it wasn't for
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Speaker 5: the road woes and the extremes that happened for Brian
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Speaker 5: in that pocket early and mid part of the season,
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Speaker 5: which he seemed to have put behind him, which is
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Speaker 5: tremendous for Brian's just development of overcoming large amounts of
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Speaker 5: adversity in his young career. Awesome to see the turnaround
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Speaker 5: tap on the road. And obviously he's been dominant at home,
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Speaker 5: but he has been a guy that when he toes
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Speaker 5: the rubber, you feel like the team has a chance
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Speaker 5: to win every single time.
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Speaker 4: And that's what it was.
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Speaker 5: Last year as well. So for a starting rotation that
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Speaker 5: has been able to maintain health most of the year,
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Speaker 5: has underperformed in different pockets, I feel like Brian Wu
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Speaker 5: has been the guy that has been the most consistent
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Speaker 5: if you just look past some of the road woes
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Speaker 5: early on because he responded and made adjustments to that
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Speaker 5: really well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even if Gilbert or Kirby were to
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Speaker 3: leave this year, you still have one of the two,
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Speaker 3: I would think. You have Wu, you have Hancock who
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Speaker 3: made a breakthrough. You'll have Kate Anderson for a full
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Speaker 3: season next year. And Bryce Miller, who was probably our
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Speaker 3: best pitcher for a month, is your number five on
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Speaker 3: paper right now. I mean, I don't want to get
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Speaker 3: it started again because I know how disappointed and frustrating
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Speaker 3: Mariner fans are, but I'm already excited about that rotation
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Speaker 3: next season.
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Speaker 5: And you're missing a really important six that's in the
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Speaker 5: minor leagues that even debuted in Ryan Sloan. You've got
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Speaker 5: to imagine he's knocking on the door.
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Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
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Speaker 5: The way that the Mariners attack this offseason and leading
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Speaker 5: into next spring, as I know they prioritize the starting
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Speaker 5: pitching depth, you have to have that. But Ryan Sloan's
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Speaker 5: knocking on the door, and there's going to have to
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Speaker 5: be a pathway for him to get to the major
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Speaker 5: leagues at some point. And you've got to imagine that
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Speaker 5: we are watching a Kate Anderson or Ryan Sloan compete
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Speaker 5: for a fourth or fifth spot at some point. And
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Speaker 5: if those two guys are the back end of the rotation,
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Speaker 5: then the Mariners are leading themselves off into a good
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Speaker 5: situation going into 2027.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about some young players that could be a
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Speaker 3: part of that equation next year as well. Your impressions
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Speaker 3: of Laz Montez thus far?
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Speaker 2: The energy is electric.
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Speaker 5: The way that he attacks the game every single day,
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Speaker 5: it just looks like he loves playing baseball and fans
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Speaker 5: love watching that. Obviously, the swing and miss was a
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Speaker 5: concern in the minor leagues and it's still apparent in.
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Speaker 4: The major leagues.
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Speaker 5: The home run ability, the power production that I believe
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Speaker 5: will only get better at the major league level as
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Speaker 5: the approach tightens up. I think there's I don't think
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Speaker 5: there is adjustments he's going to have to make at
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Speaker 5: the big league level. And we've seen a couple of guys,
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Speaker 5: you think about Cole Young went through this last year
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Speaker 5: has responded well this year and hasn't been as good
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Speaker 5: as he's going to be, but has been a really
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Speaker 5: consistent presence in that lineup this season. Montes says, He's
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Speaker 5: hammering mistakes right now, and he does have good plate
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Speaker 5: discipline that looks early in counts, but there are still
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Speaker 5: situations where he's putting himself in lopsided counts where he's
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Speaker 5: behind early, and I don't see that downshift yet in
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Speaker 5: his development where he's able to take the single or
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Speaker 5: the double because he's so big and strong.
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Speaker 4: It still looks like an all-or-nothing swing, which.
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Speaker 5: to his credit, Chuck got him to the major leagues.
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Speaker 5: And that's the hardest part about being a young big
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Speaker 5: leaguer is you don't want to get away from the
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Speaker 5: thing that got you to the show. You want to
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Speaker 5: be yourself. You want to respect and honor your identity
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Speaker 5: that got you there. But at some point, and it's
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Speaker 5: closer to like the six, 800 at bat mark, where
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Speaker 5: you can really start to figure out who you are
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Speaker 5: as a hitter in the league is making adjustments and
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Speaker 5: you can respond to it. He hasn't gotten to that
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Speaker 5: part yet. So right now we're just looking at potential.
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Speaker 5: We're seeing the tools and they're real. The consistency of
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Speaker 5: what does he look like 600 at-bats in a full season,
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Speaker 5: we're waiting to see. And I'm really interested how they
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Speaker 5: navigate the Mariners this offseason of acquiring outfielders because they'll
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Speaker 5: lose Randy Rosarena. They have Dom Canzone that's played right field.
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Speaker 5: They can't really platoon two left-handed bats in right field.
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Speaker 5: So how do they navigate that? And then is he
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Speaker 5: going to be able to have the opportunity to face
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Speaker 5: more left-handed pitching to get confidence there? And what the
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Speaker 5: history has told me is a guy like Canzone starts
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Speaker 5: with a platoon, earns his right to become an everyday guy,
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Speaker 5: and I think Montez might be in a similar track.
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Speaker 2: Ryan Healy with us here on the radio program.
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Speaker 3: Did you ever hit a ball 474 feet, do you think?
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Speaker 2: Batting practice, game?
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Speaker 5: The furthest one that I ever hit in my career
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Speaker 5: was in 2016 in Kansas City.
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Speaker 4: I hit a ball 480. Oh, you had power, man.
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Speaker 2: You got some legit frigging power.
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Speaker 5: 480.
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Speaker 2: Look at that. Take that, Montez.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: They think you're cute.
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Speaker 4: Montez did some way harder than I did, okay? I
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Speaker 4: just got lucky in the.
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Speaker 5: Right environment, the right weather, and I just ran into one.
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Speaker 5: But Montez, he's going to eclipse that very easily.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I take it you got it all. That's my interpretation
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Speaker 3: of that 480.
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Speaker 5: Listen, that's the best bolt of my life there, Chuck.
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Speaker 4: There's not a second. There's not a close second. All right.
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Speaker 2: Let's close with this couple of sad things, really.
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Speaker 3: I mean, my expectation is that Dan Wilson is not
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Speaker 3: going to return as manager.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's probably going to happen.
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Speaker 3: Either Sunday night or Monday morning. How do you think
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Speaker 3: that's going to land organizationally? What kind of a tough
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Speaker 3: day will that be? Whether you think it's earned or not,
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Speaker 3: how tough do you think that's going to.
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Speaker 2: Be for the building organization?
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Speaker 3: That one of the all-time favorite Mariners is probably going
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Speaker 3: to be dismissed as the manager on Sunday.
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Speaker 5: People within the building are going to be really, really sad.
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Speaker 5: They're going to be heartbroken because of the human being
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Speaker 5: that Dan Wilson is. They understand the business side. They've
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Speaker 5: seen this cycle through a little bit. They understand why
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Speaker 5: organizations have to make decisions like this. But it doesn't
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Speaker 5: take away from the human that Dan is and the
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Speaker 5: contributor to this organization that he's been, both as a player.
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Speaker 4: And now as a manager. And this is... We talked
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Speaker 4: about this a lot this season, Chuck.
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Speaker 5: This is the most unfortunate thing or result that happens
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Speaker 5: from an underperforming season from the players, is that someone
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Speaker 5: has to be at blame for this. Someone has to,
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Speaker 5: you know, eventually take the fall, and it just seems
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Speaker 5: like Dan Wilson's that guy. I'm not in the camp
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Speaker 5: of fire Dan Wilson. He deserves it. He's the problem.
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Speaker 5: I think he's a wonderful human. I think he's been
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Speaker 5: a solid manager. I think there's things he could have
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Speaker 5: done better, and he would tell you that to your face.
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Speaker 5: But I think it'll be a mixed bag of emotions
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Speaker 5: as Mariners fans go through this cycle. A lot of
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Speaker 5: people will be immediately happy because there's at least some
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Speaker 5: change happening. But I think ultimately the organization will miss
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Speaker 5: the presence of Dan Wilson, and I'm curious how that
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Speaker 5: transition goes. ends up happening if it's just a clean
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Speaker 5: cut or if it's a restructuring to a different part
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Speaker 5: of the org, how they end up attacking that. Really,
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Speaker 5: what does Dan want at this point? You've got to
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Speaker 5: imagine that Dan is emotionally exhausted with the ups and
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Speaker 5: downs of the season, the amount of times he's got
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Speaker 5: to speak to media on a day-to-day basis, the questions
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Speaker 5: he's answering, the feelings that fans now have about him,
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Speaker 5: a fan base that has loved him and embraced him
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Speaker 5: and his family that live in the Northwest. It's going
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Speaker 5: to be really hard, and it's going to be tough
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Speaker 5: not just for Dan, but for also people that work
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Speaker 5: in that building.
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Speaker 3: Finally, in our last minute, what kind of a mess
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Speaker 3: is Riz going to be this weekend?
16:55
Speaker 4: A big mess.
16:56
Speaker 5: It's going to be similar to the 50th anniversary when
16:58
Speaker 5: he found out he was going to induct to the
16:59
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. But everything that he gets this week,
17:03
Speaker 5: he deserves it and more. Such a beautiful human and
17:06
Speaker 5: not the– The gear that Cal walked up there and
17:09
Speaker 5: showed to him at the beginning of this homestand, oh,
17:12
Speaker 5: it's so cool. And then Rick's face when he found
17:15
Speaker 5: out that Cal was actually going to wear it in
17:17
Speaker 5: a game, he lit up. And you know that's going
17:19
Speaker 5: to be displayed somewhere in Rick's house. But I know
17:22
Speaker 5: that Rick will still be around. He's not going to
17:25
Speaker 5: be able to stay away from T-Mobile. He won't be
17:26
Speaker 5: calling the games. I know a lot of fans are
17:28
Speaker 5: going to miss that voice, as will I. But I
17:31
Speaker 5: know what he's done for this organization and for the
17:33
Speaker 5: fans of painting the picture and just telling stories. What
17:36
Speaker 5: a career, and I hope he gets celebrated and embraces
17:40
Speaker 5: it all the way that he should this weekend.
17:42
Speaker 2: You're the man.
17:43
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. We appreciate it, and we'll talk
17:46
Speaker 3: to you again next week one way or the other.
17:49
Speaker 4: Can't wait.
17:50
Speaker 3: All right, Ryan Helig joining us right here on Chuck
17:53
Speaker 3: in the Mornings. Coming up next, Mike Sando will be
17:55
Speaker 3: with us.
17:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a lot of guests here today. Sports
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18:34
Speaker 2: And Mike, you're going to have to forgive me a
18:36
Speaker 2: little bit.
18:37
Speaker 3: I was just giving Anders a history lesson on Ron
18:40
Speaker 3: Santo during the break. So if I slip up and
18:42
Speaker 3: call you Mike Santo at some point, you know why.
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Speaker 6: I've been called all kinds of things. I used to
18:49
Speaker 6: be called Sando Calrissian. That's great. Well, that's probably the
18:56
Speaker 6: best one.
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Speaker 2: You might get started.
18:58
Speaker 3: It might start getting called that again on this show.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
19:01
Speaker 2: That's so good.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:04
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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Speaker 6: You just got to roll with it. You know, I
19:07
Speaker 6: thought it was pretty good.
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Speaker 2: Well, great to have you on.
19:12
Speaker 3: Let's start our conversation today with the local team.
19:17
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold looks like he's going to start this week.
19:21
Speaker 2: Talk about our quarterback room.
19:22
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold returning and how well Drew Locke performed while
19:27
Speaker 3: he was away.
19:28
Speaker 5: I know.
19:29
Speaker 6: Don't you sort of feel like, okay, if he's 95% Darnold,
19:33
Speaker 6: can't you just go another week? You're just playing Washington.
19:36
Speaker 2: That's the way we feel. But you know football people.
19:38
Speaker 2: Football coaches don't feel that way.
19:41
Speaker 6: Well, and also, if you are healed, then you can play,
19:44
Speaker 6: if they don't think it's a high risk you know
19:46
Speaker 6: just for us we're watching okay what if he runs
19:48
Speaker 6: out there you know and damages it worse the ship's
19:52
Speaker 6: going great here you know there's no rush but if
19:55
Speaker 6: he you know if he's fine then he's a starting
19:57
Speaker 6: quarterback and he should play and you're in a good
19:59
Speaker 6: situation because drew lock you know was able to probably
20:02
Speaker 6: do better than people thought he would over a couple
20:05
Speaker 6: of games in a great context by the way too
20:07
Speaker 6: with uh you know, really good defense. They got a
20:10
Speaker 6: good run game. Um, and they got a great, probably
20:13
Speaker 6: the best wide receiver in the league, right?
20:15
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
20:16
Speaker 3: You do your quarterback tier. So you're always asking people
20:18
Speaker 3: their opinions on quarterbacks. How much do you think the
20:21
Speaker 3: opinion of drew lock has changed after the last couple
20:24
Speaker 3: of weeks?
20:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:25
Speaker 6: Well, I think it was at a low point, you know,
20:27
Speaker 6: when he left Denver and then he's had some, uh, success,
20:31
Speaker 6: obviously the drive against the Eagles a couple of years ago, uh, was,
20:35
Speaker 6: was nice. Um, Are people going to be signing him
20:41
Speaker 6: to a deal to start? I don't know about that,
20:44
Speaker 6: that it changes that much. But the idea that he's
20:48
Speaker 6: a good backup quarterback is probably enhanced. I think the
20:53
Speaker 6: upside component is one to really look at because there's
20:57
Speaker 6: so much need at the position. I would think he
21:00
Speaker 6: needs to probably play more and later in the year
21:03
Speaker 6: to get some real traction there.
21:06
Speaker 3: Sando Calrissian, our guest here on Chuck in the Mornings,
21:10
Speaker 3: our NFL insider. joining us every week, Thursdays at 9.30.
21:16
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the opponent for the Seahawks, the Washington Commanders.
21:21
Speaker 3: And Jaden Daniels, same injury two years in a row.
21:25
Speaker 3: How worried do the Commanders need to be about that?
21:28
Speaker 3: And then just overall, how worried do the Commanders have
21:31
Speaker 3: to be? Because they got a lot more problems than
21:34
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels' elbow there in the nation's capital.
21:36
Speaker 6: I know. I know, you know, one of the things
21:38
Speaker 6: that coaches talk about, too, there's something to it, Like,
21:41
Speaker 6: can you have success too early in a place? You know,
21:44
Speaker 6: if you kind of go back like, hey, Kevin Stefanski
21:47
Speaker 6: with the Browns, they had a good year the first year,
21:49
Speaker 6: you know, and now you think you're something that maybe
21:51
Speaker 6: you're not. I think Washington in the first year of
21:53
Speaker 6: Dan Quinn made it to the championship game and you
21:55
Speaker 6: sort of think, all right, we're close. And they approached
21:58
Speaker 6: their roster in that way. And we're filling in with
22:00
Speaker 6: a lot of older guys and. And just trying to get,
22:03
Speaker 6: I think they were trying to get some good leadership
22:05
Speaker 6: on the team, too, because it was really a tough
22:07
Speaker 6: situation with Dan Snyder as the owner for so long.
22:09
Speaker 6: So some of it was defensible. But I think they
22:11
Speaker 6: put their team in a position where now that they've
22:14
Speaker 6: had the quarterback hurt and things have kind of come
22:16
Speaker 6: back to earth, they're probably not as far along in
22:19
Speaker 6: the build of their team. Because they've done short-term moves,
22:21
Speaker 6: you know, trade for Laramie Tunsil, signed Debo Samuel, those
22:24
Speaker 6: types of moves.
22:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.
22:25
Speaker 6: Have Bobby Wagner in there, you know, those sorts of
22:27
Speaker 6: things were kind of like now moves.
22:29
Speaker 4: All right.
22:30
Speaker 6: But now they're sort of in now what, whereas like
22:33
Speaker 6: Seattle had went 10 and seven the first year, but
22:35
Speaker 6: it was totally unsatisfying. And, you know, they, they made
22:39
Speaker 6: a bunch of changes. They got rid of that.
22:40
Speaker 5: Shoot.
22:41
Speaker 6: They traded their quarterback, their top receiver. They got a
22:43
Speaker 6: new offensive coordinator, right? If Seattle that first year had
22:46
Speaker 6: gone to the championship game, would they have done all
22:49
Speaker 6: those things? I mean, maybe, but it's harder to do.
22:52
Speaker 6: So I think now these teams find themselves in totally
22:56
Speaker 6: different places.
22:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:57
Speaker 2: I think it's a great point.
22:59
Speaker 3: I mean, Are Washington fans having RG3 flashbacks with Daniels,
23:03
Speaker 3: do you think?
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Speaker 6: Probably a little bit.
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Speaker 3: That great first season, we're going to conquer the world
23:10
Speaker 3: and then.
23:11
Speaker 2: Couldn't ever stay healthy again?
23:13
Speaker 1: Yes.
23:14
Speaker 6: Now, if you could say, though, which of your four
23:18
Speaker 6: limbs would. be would be okay to for your quarterback
23:22
Speaker 6: to hurt you say well let's not do the legs
23:24
Speaker 6: right let's not do that arm you throw with let's
23:27
Speaker 6: make it the other arm what a weird injury to
23:29
Speaker 6: have this left elbow it seems like that could be
23:33
Speaker 6: overcome in some way are you going to dislocate your
23:34
Speaker 6: elbow every year um i would sure think not but
23:39
Speaker 6: you know he's he has been banged up and sort
23:42
Speaker 6: of come back to earth and i think that was
23:44
Speaker 6: a little bit of a concern of his he you
23:45
Speaker 6: know he runs around a little bit too so I
23:48
Speaker 6: think there's concern, but the RG3 thing I think was
23:52
Speaker 6: more concerning because he wasn't the passer that Jaden Daniels was.
23:56
Speaker 6: He had success in the passing game, but he wasn't
23:58
Speaker 6: as nuanced of like a pro quarterback passer as Jaden
24:01
Speaker 6: Daniels is. I don't think he had the same sort
24:05
Speaker 6: of makeup that endears you to the team the same way.
24:09
Speaker 6: And he doesn't have a torn up knee. He's not
24:13
Speaker 6: as reliant on the running to me. So I would
24:15
Speaker 6: definitely rather have Jaden Daniels than RG3, but I would
24:21
Speaker 6: like to have him on the field, too.
24:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
24:23
Speaker 3: Now that you think about it, I think I'd rather
24:25
Speaker 3: lose my left eye than my tongue.
24:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of need it a little bit more.
24:29
Speaker 6: Let's go through.
24:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:31
Speaker 3: If you want to follow Mike, Mike Sando at Sando NFL,
24:35
Speaker 3: joining us here again this morning.
24:37
Speaker 2: A lot of other ground to cover.
24:39
Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterbacks, and I don't mean to just keep
24:41
Speaker 3: harping on the quarterbacks, but Justin Herbert.
24:45
Speaker 2: I mean, this felt to me like.
24:47
Speaker 3: a make or break type of season to prove once
24:50
Speaker 3: and for all that he belongs in that elite conversation.
24:54
Speaker 3: I get that he's got everything you're looking for from
24:56
Speaker 3: a quarterback, but man, he's just once again getting battered
25:01
Speaker 3: and bruised. The team's off to an 0-2 start and
25:04
Speaker 3: it looks like a complete mess for a team that
25:06
Speaker 3: had Super Bowl aspirations this year.
25:09
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you, you know, and the voters in
25:11
Speaker 6: the quarterback tiers took him out of tier one. You know,
25:13
Speaker 6: I think that's, you can't put him up there on
25:15
Speaker 6: the promise enough uh i do think that you know
25:20
Speaker 6: a lot of teams would rather have justin herbert than
25:22
Speaker 6: who they have and you see the situation around him
25:25
Speaker 6: there seems to be letting him down a lot but
25:28
Speaker 6: after a certain number of years you expect the quarterback
25:31
Speaker 6: to overcome some of that more too and he hasn't
25:33
Speaker 6: so it makes it harder to kind of harder kind
25:36
Speaker 6: of defend even though i don't know that there's really
25:37
Speaker 6: a fatal flaw with him you know he checks a
25:40
Speaker 6: lot of the boxes.
25:40
Speaker 3: Right yeah Well, the 0-2 teams right now, Chargers, Falcons, Buccaneers, Commanders, Titans, Colts, Texans,
25:51
Speaker 3: and Dolphins. And so of those 0-2 teams, who's not buried?
25:56
Speaker 3: I'm going to think Houston. I'm going to answer one
25:58
Speaker 3: of them for you. I would think Houston's one of those.
26:01
Speaker 3: Give me another team, Atlanta, Tampa, Washington, the Chargers, Titans, Colts,
26:08
Speaker 3: and Dolphins that could climb out of its 0-2 start.
26:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Chargers and the Colts could. You know,
26:14
Speaker 6: they're better than that over the course of the season.
26:17
Speaker 6: And the other teams, you know, Washington, I suppose, if
26:20
Speaker 6: Jay Daniels is healthy, but he's not. So I'm not
26:21
Speaker 6: going to put them there yet. I think those other teams,
26:23
Speaker 6: I think Atlanta is not a very good team. Something
26:26
Speaker 6: feels wrong with Tampa.
26:28
Speaker 4: I agree.
26:28
Speaker 6: I would normally put them in there and maybe they
26:30
Speaker 6: turn it around. But I don't feel, I'm not feeling
26:33
Speaker 6: it there. They've lost a lot of games. They lost
26:35
Speaker 6: games there last year. Is it kind of, you know,
26:38
Speaker 6: the beginning of the end there for their setup?
26:40
Speaker 3: I don't know.
26:41
Speaker 2: Are the 2-0 Raiders real at all, in your opinion?
26:45
Speaker 6: Well, I think they're what we thought they might be
26:48
Speaker 6: more like with Pete Carroll there and that they seem
26:50
Speaker 6: to be a well-coached team. I think what undid Pete
26:53
Speaker 6: was that weird arrangement of, you know, coordinators you didn't hire.
26:57
Speaker 6: And then he had insisted on having his sons on
26:59
Speaker 6: the staff, which I think wasn't something that worked out well,
27:01
Speaker 6: especially coaching the offensive line. So I think Kubiak's got
27:05
Speaker 6: it set up a lot better. I think he's, you know,
27:08
Speaker 6: they're more sort of, they're a better coach team. And
27:11
Speaker 6: so I think they're getting more out of their team.
27:13
Speaker 6: And Kirk Cousins is a good addition for them, probably
27:16
Speaker 6: better than I thought. I wasn't sure he'd be able to.
27:18
Speaker 6: We'll see if he can hold up. I think he's
27:20
Speaker 6: been better than maybe we thought he was going to be.
27:23
Speaker 6: So maybe they're a team that, you know, for real,
27:25
Speaker 6: are they going to win the division or win in
27:27
Speaker 6: the playoffs? I say no way. But could they be,
27:30
Speaker 6: you know, could they win eight or nine games? I mean,
27:32
Speaker 6: maybe they could.
27:33
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:34
Speaker 3: I do want to take a minute to ask you
27:36
Speaker 3: about this because everybody keeps telling me this is such
27:39
Speaker 3: a big story. I'm not feeling it. I've been telling Anders.
27:43
Speaker 3: I'm just not feeling this Peyton McDonald, Graham Bensinger story
27:47
Speaker 3: as much as what others.
27:48
Speaker 2: But it's the top story in the National Football League.
27:50
Speaker 3: It's the most clicked on on NFL.com and at ESPN.
27:54
Speaker 3: So I almost feel obligated to get your two cents
27:57
Speaker 3: on what you took away from it.
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Speaker 6: I think it's kind of a fascinating media story. You know, I,
28:03
Speaker 6: what was actually said and all that. I don't feel
28:05
Speaker 6: like there's going to be a huge cold war fight between, um,
28:09
Speaker 6: McDonald and Sean Payton and Sean Payton's as prickly as
28:11
Speaker 6: you can get sometimes. And he rolled with it.
28:13
Speaker 1: Right.
28:13
Speaker 6: So I don't think it's that big of a deal
28:15
Speaker 6: in the grand scheme of things, but I do think
28:17
Speaker 6: it's people have enjoyed, you know, kind of pulling back
28:20
Speaker 6: the curtain on how do these things work when you
28:21
Speaker 6: set up an interview, like what's on the record, what's
28:24
Speaker 6: off the record, was it a gotcha sort of a thing? Um,
28:28
Speaker 6: I thought, McDonald handled it perfectly because he just said, hey,
28:31
Speaker 6: ultimately I'm responsible for what I say, no matter who
28:33
Speaker 6: I say it to. I mean, that's just an awesome accountability.
28:35
Speaker 6: And I think if you're in that locker room as
28:38
Speaker 6: a player, that's being accountable. Because he could have easily said,
28:41
Speaker 6: this guy was the most disingenuous. I can't believe it.
28:44
Speaker 6: That was intended to be a private conversation. I've been wrong, right?
28:47
Speaker 6: I mean, he could have done that or had that tenor.
28:50
Speaker 6: But to handle it the way he did, I thought
28:52
Speaker 6: it was a good opportunity for him to show what
28:54
Speaker 6: accountability is. And he just owned up to it. I mean,
28:56
Speaker 6: obviously he said it. And he lives with it, and
28:59
Speaker 6: I don't think it's that huge of a deal.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing he doesn't do. There's nothing that he does
29:03
Speaker 3: that isn't great, Mike Sando. He handles everything perfectly. That's
29:07
Speaker 3: just the way we– You're.
29:08
Speaker 6: Talking about Mike McDonald?
29:09
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
29:11
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
29:12
Speaker 2: Lando Calrissian was suspicious.
29:14
Speaker 6: Okay.
29:15
Speaker 3: So I would imagine Sando Calrissian is as well.
29:19
Speaker 2: Thursday night football, Atlanta, Green Bay.
29:21
Speaker 3: I know there's a Sando in your household that's fired up.
29:24
Speaker 3: He's going to be wearing his Packer jersey tonight. How
29:27
Speaker 3: about Michael Pennix fans here in Seattle? Do you still
29:30
Speaker 3: think there's a chance that he's going to prove he
29:33
Speaker 3: was worth that top 10 pick.
29:36
Speaker 6: Um i don't i'm a little bit out on that
29:39
Speaker 6: one you know and i was high and i was
29:41
Speaker 6: kind of high on him coming out i mean shoot
29:43
Speaker 6: i forget was it was it one of those postseason
29:46
Speaker 6: games they played oregon or somebody i can't remember but
29:48
Speaker 6: he was just so lights out texas yeah he was
29:52
Speaker 6: so lights out he was so lights out i was
29:54
Speaker 6: like oh my gosh this is this guy's amazing but
29:57
Speaker 6: i think he struggled with You know, the ability to
29:59
Speaker 6: put pace and touch on the ball and kind of
30:02
Speaker 6: have more than a fastball. So he's going to really
30:04
Speaker 6: impress you with some of his throws. But I think
30:06
Speaker 6: just quarterbacking the nuanced part of throwing the ball and
30:10
Speaker 6: varying your throws has been hard for him. And so
30:13
Speaker 6: I think that's going to hold him back. Who you
30:15
Speaker 6: got tonight, Packers?
30:17
Speaker 1: I do.
30:17
Speaker 6: I think it should be a get-right game for the Packers.
30:21
Speaker 6: I mean, shoot, they won last week, but it feels
30:23
Speaker 6: like they lost. I mean, you've got Lynn Dickey coming
30:24
Speaker 6: out of the past. Remember Lynn Dickey?
30:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. Kids won't remember.
30:28
Speaker 6: He was a quarterback. He threw for about 4,000 yards
30:31
Speaker 6: for the Packers.
30:32
Speaker 2: James Lofton.
30:32
Speaker 6: Yeah, he came out recently, and it was like ripping LeFleur.
30:37
Speaker 6: So it feels like it's slipping away for them. This
30:40
Speaker 6: is probably the game they need. If they lose to this,
30:43
Speaker 6: look out.
30:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
30:45
Speaker 3: All right, man.
30:46
Speaker 2: Great stuff. Appreciate it.
30:47
Speaker 3: Go just jump aboard the Millennium Falcon and we'll talk
30:50
Speaker 3: to you next week. I will.
30:52
Speaker 6: Thank you.
30:52
Speaker 2: All right.
30:53
Speaker 3: Mike Sando, our NFL insider, joining us right here on
30:56
Speaker 3: Chuck in the Mornings.
30:57
Speaker 2: One last thing to close us out next on KJR.
31:13
Speaker 3: Final segment before we hand things off to Greg Bell
31:16
Speaker 3: and also Jessamyn McIntyre coming your way.
31:19
Speaker 2: At 10 o'clock this morning. One last thing to close
31:21
Speaker 2: it out. Anders, where are you taking us?
31:23
Speaker 7: Credit to Mariner Muse on Twitter for doing the dirty
31:26
Speaker 7: work and getting all the information out there. With his
31:30
Speaker 7: 100th plate appearance for the Mariners last night, Taylor Ward
31:34
Speaker 7: is now officially the worst Mariners hitter of all time with...
31:39
Speaker 7: at least 100 plate appearances, at least when you go
31:41
Speaker 7: by WRC +. For those who don't know, WRC +,
31:45
Speaker 7: is Weighted Runs Created +. It kind of encompasses all offense,
31:50
Speaker 7: whether that's, you know, you're on base, batting average, hitting
31:52
Speaker 7: for contact, slogging, all that stuff, and base running.
31:56
Speaker 2: So it's all offensive.
31:59
Speaker 7: Taylor Ward's the worst offensive player that the Mariners have
32:01
Speaker 7: ever had that has at least appeared in 100 plate appearances.
32:04
Speaker 2: How do you even explain it, though?
32:06
Speaker 3: I mean... Okay, if people want to just crap on Pollock, Grefg, Schneider, Garver,
32:11
Speaker 3: all of those that they showed up here with a
32:13
Speaker 3: niche skill and for whatever reason couldn't perform that niche
32:16
Speaker 3: skill because Jerry couldn't recognize that they were about ready
32:20
Speaker 3: to hit their career wall. Taylor Ward was actively a
32:23
Speaker 3: successful hitter in the sport for the Baltimore Orioles.
32:27
Speaker 2: He was one of their better players.
32:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.
32:29
Speaker 3: And then the next day he goes to the Mariners
32:32
Speaker 3: and instantly became terrible. How does that get explained? I
32:35
Speaker 3: promise you it wasn't anything the Mariners did.
32:37
Speaker 7: No, you can't foresee that happening. And not only is
32:40
Speaker 7: he the worst, he is by 10 points the worst.
32:44
Speaker 7: So of all time, I have both the lists in
32:48
Speaker 7: front of me of the top 10. He has a
32:51
Speaker 7: 19 WRC plus. Average is 100. 81% below average offensively.
32:58
Speaker 7: 10 points worse than Ronnie Cedeno. I don't know half
33:03
Speaker 7: of these names. Rob Reffstein is sixth on the list
33:05
Speaker 7: with 33 WRC +. Five players worse than Rob Reffstein.
33:11
Speaker 7: In Mariner history, yeah. They've ever appeared in 100 plate appearances. So, yeah,
33:15
Speaker 7: Taylor Ward, good trade. We should get him a trophy.
33:18
Speaker 7: We honestly should. Do you think you can name any
33:20
Speaker 7: others on the list?
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Speaker 3: No but we don't have time anyway travis what's your
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Speaker 3: one last thing i just got a quick one um
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Speaker 3: there was an analysis done on the world cup and
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Speaker 3: it brought in an estimated almost 900 million.
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Speaker 8: Dollars to the region oh uh including just our region
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Speaker 8: into the yeah into the seattle area wow and supposedly
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Speaker 8: created about two twenty thousand jobs love that wow uh
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Speaker 8: so it's massively successful the city did we should do
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Speaker 8: it again next year uh yeah yeah great idea chuck
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Speaker 8: yeah yeah uh yeah i just found that really really
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Speaker 8: interesting and cool and it brought you know really great
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Speaker 8: publicity to the city it made the city look great
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Speaker 8: everyone was just.
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Speaker 2: Yeah let's drop our soccer coverage seattle times every year
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Speaker 2: let's just do let's host the world cup every year
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Speaker 2: that's when we do that sounds like a plan right
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a money generator, it sounds like. Seriously.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like it's profitable.
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Speaker 8: The city and state did spend $ 120 million getting ready
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Speaker 8: for it, but it ended up paying off in the end.
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Speaker 2: I'll say. All right, I'm going to close with this.
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Speaker 3: I loved Sando Calrissian so much that I decided if
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Speaker 3: there really was a football Lando Calrissian, like Sando Calrissian,
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Speaker 3: would he not ride aboard the Millennium Atlanta Falcon?
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Probably would. Would his arch enemy not be Jabba the Hut, Hut, Hut? Oh, God.
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Speaker 2: Football and Star Wars. Would his best friend not be
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Speaker 2: Han Solo Tackle? Yeah. Yeah, probably would be.
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Speaker 3: Would he not hang out with Drew Locke or Drew Baca,
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Speaker 3: as many people like to call him?
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Speaker 2: That's good.
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Speaker 6: I'm going.
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Speaker 2: To put more of these together for tomorrow. I love those.
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Speaker 2: All right. Have a great day.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Football Friday tomorrow. Greg and
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Speaker 3: Jess next on KJR.