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The O-Zone Podcast | DaVon Hamilton on His Impact in 2025, Being Overlooked · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Oh soon.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to this week's Ozone podcast. And I
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  Speaker 3: think people who see the guests today are going to
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  Speaker 3: get excited because he's very good in this circumstance and
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  Speaker 3: and a funny guy is there's some pressure to be
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  Speaker 3: funny today. Uh, Jaguars defensive tackle Devon Hamilton, Davon, thanks
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  Speaker 3: for doing this, no problem, and uh, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: strikes me we were talking right for one in the
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  Speaker 3: air sixth year And I always ask guys, you know,
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  Speaker 3: once they get to sort of your stage in your career,
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  Speaker 3: always feel short.
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  Speaker 2: Looking back on it. Six years crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Though, right, Yeah, it's crazy. You know, Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot, been through a lot. It's blessed
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  Speaker 1: to be here. You've been through COVID, yeah, Urban, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Peterson and now this, I mean, it's a that is
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  Speaker 3: a lot. So I assume you feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know how the NFL works been out right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I have a pretty clear understanding of
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  Speaker 1: what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: But it it's got to be through.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we joke because it's been a long
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  Speaker 3: road for a lot of you guys who've been around.
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  Speaker 3: What is it like for you being a part of
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  Speaker 3: how it feels right now?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, it's pretty cool, you know. I mean, anytime your
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  Speaker 1: team is winning and you feel like your team is
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  Speaker 1: jelling a lot more, I feel like it's very cool
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  Speaker 1: because you obviously, I know what it's like to not
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  Speaker 1: sure be jelling or not be winning, So it's it's
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  Speaker 1: very cool, especially with new people around and kind of
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  Speaker 1: dealing with that change at the beginning of the year
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot. But it's been pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you about the team overall in
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  Speaker 3: a second, but it struck me as I was sort
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  Speaker 3: of preparing for this, Josh Trayvon Smooth being back. You
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  Speaker 3: guys have something special there as a group, don't.
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  Speaker 1: You for sure. I mean we've known each other for
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  Speaker 1: a while. We work out during the off season together.
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  Speaker 1: We try to hang out as much as possible too,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, you just really just go
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  Speaker 1: and work with your brothers and trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what they like to do, what we like to do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, try to how do we won't win this
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  Speaker 1: game or you know, you really rely on one another
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  Speaker 1: more so than anything.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a I assume a special chemistry. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Josh who again he came in. I guess a year
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  Speaker 3: before you did. I feel like this is sort of
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  Speaker 3: your group now, I guess. I mean, I'm sure I'm
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  Speaker 3: getting that with that, but I guess the ownership you
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  Speaker 3: guys must take and what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Am I getting that right for sure?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I would love to think at
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  Speaker 1: least majority of NFL teams start with their offensive defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I just have to, you know, and we take extreme
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  Speaker 1: ownership over that as a group between all of us,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's really what we plan on doing
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  Speaker 1: because we know we can take over games. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can win games for us as a team. So
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  Speaker 1: that's how we feel.
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  Speaker 3: We were just talking to Traves ETN in the locker
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  Speaker 3: room and he mentioned something sort of.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the blue.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody asked him about this season if it's his best season,
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  Speaker 3: and he really veered off quickly into being his favorite
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  Speaker 3: season just because of how well this team gets along
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  Speaker 3: and the chemistry, camaraderie whatever. You feel that talking to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of guys, why is that and do you
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  Speaker 3: feel the same way.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like we just hang out a lot
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  Speaker 1: more I mean, guys are willing to hang out a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more outside of the football and be able
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  Speaker 1: to talk about outside stuff outside of football, you know,
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  Speaker 1: care about each other's families, ultimately become closer in that
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  Speaker 1: realm before ever even stepping on the football field. So
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's been the biggest change I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: Or is that did coaching or management do something to
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  Speaker 3: create that?
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  Speaker 1: Is that?
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  Speaker 2: Or it gets a lot of diff facts lead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like it's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of everything. You know. I feel like guys are just
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  Speaker 1: overall more intrigued and want to be to that level
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  Speaker 1: with one another, and you know, coaching obviously wants to
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  Speaker 1: do that to try to bring different aspects together as
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  Speaker 1: far as like what if it's game day or you know,
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, but uh, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a priority of most guys in the team.
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  Speaker 3: Got why are you guys ranked number one in run defense?
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  Speaker 2: What is made.
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  Speaker 1: Unit? Honestly? You get to say our preparation, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: each and every week, that's what we pride ourselves on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how we win games. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: we really have the guys that can do what we
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  Speaker 1: want to do. So as long as everybody was what
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  Speaker 1: they need to be and we communicate and we talk
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  Speaker 1: it out, I think we can be like right where
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  Speaker 1: we are right now.
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  Speaker 3: How much pride does the group take in that? Because
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  Speaker 3: every time you talk to one of you guys, that's
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  Speaker 3: the first thing you mentioned, it's stop the run so.
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  Speaker 2: You get to do other things.
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  Speaker 3: And for you to stop the run so you can
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  Speaker 3: go to somebody else, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It happens. But yeah, I mean it's very important for us,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I mean if you especially for a team
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  Speaker 1: that we're about to play. Sure they're they're a heavy
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  Speaker 1: run team, but the team the games that they do
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  Speaker 1: lose or games that they're not running very well. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's majority of the NFL. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: can stop the running back, you can stop there, make
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  Speaker 1: them one dimensional. That's how you win games.
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  Speaker 3: I know you've covered this before, but for the time
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  Speaker 3: I had a chance to talk to you one on
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  Speaker 3: one like this. How high were you off the ground
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  Speaker 3: against Vegas on the play?
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know. You know, I was vertical, I
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  Speaker 1: would assume so, but you know I was just out
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  Speaker 1: there just trying to play.
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  Speaker 2: Say it was twelve feet I'm not sure it was
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  Speaker 2: twelve feet.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like it. It felt like I was floating
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  Speaker 1: up there, you know. But yeah, I was just you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to play the game, trying to win the game
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  Speaker 1: for us. Actually, I could say I genuinely didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know where we were in the game. I was just playing,
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  Speaker 1: just playing.
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  Speaker 2: Which is probably where you play your best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just not thinking about anything other than
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  Speaker 1: winning a game, you know. And you know, that moment
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  Speaker 1: was so exciting for us. It was a big moment
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  Speaker 1: for us as a team. Sure, you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: a big game for us. So I was excited to
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  Speaker 1: be able to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm asking these couple of questions to get to
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  Speaker 3: something else, So beary with me. Okay, obviously long snapping
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  Speaker 3: is a topic for you. Tell me what the moments
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline were like when they said, hey, you're
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be up for this. A lot of snaps,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of I mean, you're a chill guys, assume
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  Speaker 3: no panic.
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  Speaker 1: No inside, no, no panic. It's probably been a little
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  Speaker 1: bit a little bit of nervousness just because I haven't
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  Speaker 1: really practiced just for in a minute. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I had my braces on because you know, the evensive lineman.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a little rougher, so I be able
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  Speaker 1: to snap with my brass rather than like being at practice,
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  Speaker 1: I could snap with dout them or whatever. I was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit nerve racking at first, but once you
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  Speaker 1: got out there, I mean I just wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: sure I made all my snaps like two logan and
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  Speaker 1: operation was smooth.
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  Speaker 2: You know that was any of them or when they
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  Speaker 2: released you thought.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just snapping them and going snapping
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  Speaker 1: and going there or even trying to well trying to
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  Speaker 1: think about it just wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just going I think through the brace, like how
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  Speaker 3: free were your hands? You're still basically dealing with stuff
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  Speaker 3: on them, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just a little bit of stuff from the season,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, it's it's not you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not getting a whole bunch of bend in my wrists,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it's really got more so of palming
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  Speaker 1: more than anything I got.
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  Speaker 3: You that's big time stuff. You had five snaps. It's
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  Speaker 3: still a tight game. Any one of those goes awry, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it could be a different game. So you knew it
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  Speaker 3: was a moment that you had to come through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, I had confidence in myself.
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  Speaker 1: I've been, like, like you probably heard before, I've been
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  Speaker 1: waiting for this for like six years, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I haven't snapped in the game since high school. So
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  Speaker 1: I was excited. You know, I ain't never got the
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  Speaker 1: experience this side of the NFL. You know, special teams,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, the guys that play on special
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  Speaker 1: you see it and whatnot. But being out there with
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  Speaker 1: them and seeing how they operate and that type of
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  Speaker 1: deal is a different, different aspect of football.
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  Speaker 2: And I said appreciation for Ross after.
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  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, yeah, for sure, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm want to clarify something. It was sort of
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  Speaker 2: your dream to do this, but you would rather never
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  Speaker 2: do it again.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I'm okay with being an emergency guy. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want ever want to be the main quarterback. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever want to be the main guy. Don't
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  Speaker 1: get that twisted. If I have to, I will, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I have a huge appreciation for Ross. I
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  Speaker 1: understand this deal. I get it. You know, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: let him step into that realm.
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  Speaker 2: Better to have done it than to be doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I got you, And again the irony here is the
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  Speaker 3: media and myself has talked to you about the Vegas game,
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  Speaker 3: about the snap. But you're maybe having your best season
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  Speaker 3: and playing at an extremely high level, which you wouldn't say.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're a humble guy. The everything you hear
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  Speaker 3: is that von Hamilt's a big reason this team's ranked
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  Speaker 3: number one in defense, or I'm going to run defense.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're playing as well as that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I always want to play better. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the season. I'm enjoying what I have to
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  Speaker 1: do for my team. But you know, I always got goals.
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  Speaker 1: I got to keep on striving for. But as as
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  Speaker 1: far as what I can do for my team and
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  Speaker 1: what my team's asking me for, I think I do
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job at it.
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  Speaker 3: Did it take a while to get back to where
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  Speaker 3: you were after the back stuff or is that not really?
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I was coming back that the
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  Speaker 1: year I came back afterwards was a little bit rougher.
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  Speaker 1: But that following year, which is last year, right, I
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  Speaker 1: felt completely fine.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, because that was the thing.
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  Speaker 3: For people who don't know, that was a brutal thing.
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  Speaker 3: That you went through in twenty three, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: to come back from that you have talked about a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot, But I know it's not an easy road.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all, get back to where you are. It
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  Speaker 1: was definitely very testing. But at the same time, like
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  Speaker 1: I probably people probably heard them, I'm extremely blessed for it, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was the moment in time where I
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  Speaker 1: really got to become closer with God, learn more about myself,
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  Speaker 1: be with my family a little bit more. So. It
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  Speaker 1: was a blessing in disguise. Really got you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you always appreciated the game, but more of
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  Speaker 3: an appreciation for the game and for playing at a
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  Speaker 3: high level after you go through that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know, he don't necessarily know at the
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  Speaker 1: time whether or not you're ever going to come back
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  Speaker 1: and play football game. It gets really real, it does,
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  Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure at the time whether or not
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  Speaker 1: that was going to happen. Like I said, I'm extremely
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  Speaker 1: blessed to be back here, extreme blessed to be you
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  Speaker 1: still playing for the Jaguars got you. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: can't complain about anything.
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  Speaker 2: You strike me, And let me say I get this right.
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  Speaker 3: You play a position that's going to usually be overlooked,
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  Speaker 3: that really doesn't seem to bother you a whole lot.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I find it fun. You know, maybe not
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  Speaker 1: everybody does, you know what. I love to do a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more here and there. Yeah, for sure, But
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's fun for me. I get to make plays.
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  Speaker 1: I get to make other people's jobs easier. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm out there serving my teams and my teammates and
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  Speaker 1: allowing them to make plays. I mean, it's always great
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  Speaker 1: to see some of your teammates make plays. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they say they're getting free and you're like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I contributed with that, you know. So for me, it's fun.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody asked you, what do you need to do
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  Speaker 3: at your position to play it at a high level,
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  Speaker 3: because most people see gosh and they kind of know, okay,
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  Speaker 3: he's got to do X.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When you come out of a game, how do you say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is what I did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not satisfying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think more so than anything. As a noseguard,
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  Speaker 1: you got to know you got to be smart first
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  Speaker 1: and foremast you gotta be smart. You got to know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. You got to have some some type
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  Speaker 1: of awareness of what's going on around you and how
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  Speaker 1: this can fit, how somebody's looking at it from behind you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as a linebacker you're looking at what where
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  Speaker 1: is he going to be out on the block. And
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  Speaker 1: then also just being technically sound. You know, you don't
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  Speaker 1: got the technique to do it. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 1: know all you want, but if you're not technically sound
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  Speaker 1: with that, it's not going to work out.
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  Speaker 3: Because most people would think knows guard. Okay, if you're
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  Speaker 3: Vince wolfworking, can just take up space? Yeah, who is.
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  Speaker 2: A man and human being?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but most people wouldn't think the first part of
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  Speaker 3: what you said, which is the awareness part. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: more than just taking the offensive guard and plugging.
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  Speaker 2: A hole with you, right for sure?
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think Also you're probably the closest
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  Speaker 1: to the ball as well, closest to your man as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of things are happening really fast.
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  Speaker 1: So if you can understand what's going on around you,
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  Speaker 1: you can get ahead of plays. You can set up
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  Speaker 1: plays for yourself, you can set up plays for another
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  Speaker 1: Like knowing what what's supposed to happen is a big
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  Speaker 1: part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Got you more to grow for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm always trying to improve. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's a day to day thing for me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to pick other people's minds and kind look
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  Speaker 1: at different type of film to see what I can
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  Speaker 1: add to my game. So it's always a constant growing
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  Speaker 1: aspect of my game.
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  Speaker 2: Is this the most fun you've had as a player?
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  Speaker 1: Most fun I had? You know so far? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. The playoffs was a lot a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years shows, so I'm hoping we get even
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  Speaker 1: further than that, you know, have a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: fun than that. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: But to be healthy, sixth year in your prime and
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  Speaker 3: having a season like this good time to be to
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  Speaker 3: Von Hamilton.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, Always blessed, always a good time to all Right.
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  Speaker 3: The last thing we do here called the Zone five five.
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  Speaker 2: Quick questions, Von Hamilton, what was your last binge watch?
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  Speaker 1: Last binge watch? That's a tough one. Probably a new girl,
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  Speaker 1: Probably a new girl. It's a funny show.
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  Speaker 2: It's good, I've got I've gone through it twice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'm on my third or four
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  Speaker 1: time now.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good, Yeah, it really is pregame ritual of any kind,
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  Speaker 3: anything stand out.
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  Speaker 1: Pregame ritual of any kind. You know, I'm not huge
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  Speaker 1: into that. I just make sure I get warmed up.
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  Speaker 1: People probably notice it when I'm out there. Gotta do one,
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  Speaker 1: got to get there early.
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  Speaker 2: Your go to show as a kid growing up.
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  Speaker 1: Go to show. Honestly, that's the toughest one because I
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  Speaker 1: used to watch a lot of TV. For me, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: probably the most memorable was probably Power Rangers. Waking up
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  Speaker 1: at six o'clock in the morning, get up and watch
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  Speaker 1: the Power Range, good stuff, bull of Cereal. That was
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  Speaker 1: my thing.
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  Speaker 2: My kid used to want me to play Power Rangers
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  Speaker 2: with them all the time.
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  Speaker 1: My bag.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, your you must see athlete ever the athlete?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I always wanted to meet Aaron Donald. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that would be cool. Michael Phelps, that'd be
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  Speaker 1: cool too.
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  Speaker 2: You know, is airing your gold standard?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely the best defensive lineman I've ever seen. Yeah, personally,
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  Speaker 1: so it's hard to argue with that.
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  Speaker 2: But Michael Phelps, why is that?
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  Speaker 1: I know this is a great Yeah, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot, get a lot to learn from him.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Uh, your best football memory, best football
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: memory college.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I would say my last game as a as a
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Buck guy. You know, we played uh Trevor in the
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: playoffs Clinton.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: It was nineteen Yeah, okay.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen walking off the field knowing that like my
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: last time putting on the Buck eye gear. But it
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: was also like surreal and the fact that you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I've been there for five years, I've done a lot
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: of things, played the best ball I've ever had my
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: senior year, So it was it was really probably my
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: most memory.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: The first memory had that game.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: No, we lost, we lost. I don't want to get
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: into specifics. No, No, he's cool about it. I remember
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: even the first time he came in the building together.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: He got in the building, I was like, yeah, man,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: He's like, I remember you, I got you.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's I can't thank you enough for doing this.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I know during the season.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: People don't realize you guys have a lot going on
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: to take the time to do this and be as
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: candid as you are.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Very appreciated. Thank you for joining those own podcasts.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: No problem