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Come Back To Love July 16, 2026 Your Brain Is Talking. Are You Getting the Signal with Sandra Lee · Come Back to Love:

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to come Back to Love with your host, Robin Vogel.
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  Speaker 1: Each week at this same time, come Back to Love
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  Speaker 1: covers an endless array of topics related to relationships, love
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  Speaker 1: and intimacy, along with all the reasons you may be
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  Speaker 1: keeping love at a distance. Can a shattered heart be
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  Speaker 1: your doorway to your greatest love story? Robin will give
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  Speaker 1: you practical tools that can be used to heal the
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  Speaker 1: past and help you to safely love again. And now
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  Speaker 1: Today's come back to Love.
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  Speaker 2: In a world that often feels disconnected, uncertain, and overwhelming,
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  Speaker 2: there has never been a more important time to come
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  Speaker 2: back to love. I'm Robin Vogel, psychotherapist, relationship expert, love
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  Speaker 2: and intimacy coach, and author of come Back to Love,
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  Speaker 2: a Path to Healing. For over twenty years, I've been
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  Speaker 2: sitting with people in their most tender, courageous moments, heartbreaks,
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  Speaker 2: the longing, the walls they've built around their hearts, and
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  Speaker 2: the quiet hope that real love is still possible. I
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  Speaker 2: want to tell you that it is. This show is
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  Speaker 2: a sanctuary, a place to heal the past, reconnect with yourself,
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  Speaker 2: and fall in love again with your life, with others
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  Speaker 2: and most importantly with yourself. Welcome to come Back to Love.
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  Speaker 2: We are on kme ET Radio, your ABC News affiliate.
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  Speaker 2: fourteen ninety AM and ninety eight point one FM every
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  Speaker 2: Thursday at one thirty pm Pacific four thirty pm Eastern
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  Speaker 2: Standard time. I am very excited this week. I have
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  Speaker 2: a guest. As you know listeners that have been listening
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  Speaker 2: for month after month that I often will do a
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  Speaker 2: solo show and I am sprinkling in some wonderful guests
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  Speaker 2: to spice things up on the radio show. And today
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  Speaker 2: I am really happy to have Sandra Lee. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the brain. The title of this episode
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  Speaker 2: is your brain is talking? Are you getting the signal?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Sandra says, you want
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  Speaker 2: to opt your brain for success and peak performance, but
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  Speaker 2: right now your mind is foggy, forgetful, and reactive. With
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  Speaker 2: thirty nine years experience and energetic healing, Sandra helps you
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  Speaker 2: gain regain clarity, focus.
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  Speaker 3: And emotional control.
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  Speaker 2: If you've had a brain injury, trauma, or are just
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  Speaker 2: forgetting names, you want answers with intuitive sound healing and
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  Speaker 2: a proven brain training method Sandra helps her clients get
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  Speaker 2: their lives back when nothing else has worked. I cannot
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  Speaker 2: tell you how excited I am to have a conversation
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  Speaker 2: with you today, and I hope my listeners are as well,
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  Speaker 2: because I know those of you listening out there have
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  Speaker 2: already resonated with the things that I have said and
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  Speaker 2: that you have said to us. Foggy, can't remember things,
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  Speaker 2: can't make decisions, etc.
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  Speaker 3: Etc.
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  Speaker 2: For so many different reasons that I'd look forward to
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  Speaker 2: hearing from you. So, Sander, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, this is going to be wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: Good Well.
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  Speaker 2: I always ask this question first because I think the
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  Speaker 2: context is really helpful for our listeners, and that is,
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  Speaker 2: how did you get into this work? What brought you
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  Speaker 2: here in your personal life, your own healing journey.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many different ways to answer that. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to talk about the most recent part, how I got
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  Speaker 4: to combining the work I was doing before with the
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  Speaker 4: brain exercise method that I really want to talk about today.
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  Speaker 4: I am one of those people who have struggled to
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  Speaker 4: figure out who I'm helping and what I'm doing for
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  Speaker 4: them an a year after you as like I've been
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  Speaker 4: all over the map trying to figure out how M
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  Speaker 4: targeting my obvious and the truth was that I really
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  Speaker 4: really wanted to do was to work with people with
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  Speaker 4: brain injuries, because I've helped people with brain injuries. But
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  Speaker 4: I didn't like I had enough credibility. I didn't feel
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  Speaker 4: like I had enough of what it took to be
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  Speaker 4: able to do that, and so I was like looking
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  Speaker 4: at I was not consistent. I was not in harmony
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  Speaker 4: with myself around this, So the love with myself was
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  Speaker 4: just really messed up. So I help people. I see
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  Speaker 4: what's going on in somebody's brain. I see where the
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  Speaker 4: energy is stuck. I see what the issues are, and
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  Speaker 4: I can help people get that energy moving in their
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  Speaker 4: brain better so that their brain does heal and they
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  Speaker 4: can have the symptoms ease and feel better. So I've
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  Speaker 4: been doing that for a while, using a tuning fork
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  Speaker 4: in a hockey puck and intuitively seeing what's going on
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  Speaker 4: nice and then recently the transition was adding this chart
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  Speaker 4: of arrows. This is called combat combat brain training, and
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  Speaker 4: it's brain exercises that cause your brain to have to
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  Speaker 4: work to make decisions while you are using your eyes
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  Speaker 4: to see and while you're using your voice to talk
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  Speaker 4: and it stimulates you. It gives your brain all these
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  Speaker 4: stimuli that has your brain be able to focus better,
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  Speaker 4: it can heal better, and you can get better results.
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  Speaker 4: So this is a method that has been proven to work,
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  Speaker 4: documented to work. So it's like, hmm, that looks interesting.
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  Speaker 4: So I learned this and I found that when I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing this, this helps what I'm doing with the sound
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  Speaker 4: healing with THEO. It helps me get better results with
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  Speaker 4: the healing that I'm doing, and the healing that I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing helps people get better results with the chart. So
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  Speaker 4: I have found that doing this, I am able to
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  Speaker 4: get better result results in helping people heal from injuries,
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  Speaker 4: from things like dementia and not being able to focus
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  Speaker 4: and all those things that it just all starts to improve. Wow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and so that alone is like astonishing and amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And then.
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  Speaker 4: Thinking about you and what you do in your podcast,
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to mention this. It also helps people relate
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  Speaker 4: to each other better. Emotion emotional regulation. Okay, when when
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  Speaker 4: people have head injuries, a really common thing that happens
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  Speaker 4: is that they have angry outbursts and their emotions are
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  Speaker 4: all over the place. So very imbalanced because the brain
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  Speaker 4: is having a hard time like controlling itself when it's
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  Speaker 4: injured like that. So understandably, brain injury leads to this
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  Speaker 4: this emotional imbalance. So when we're doing the combat this
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  Speaker 4: is called combat brainchain. When you're doing this, when you
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  Speaker 4: do it with another person, it increases relatedness and cooperation
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  Speaker 4: and empathy because if I have you, and if I
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  Speaker 4: have you and another person do the chart and you know,
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  Speaker 4: basically say the directions of the arrows is what you're doing,
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  Speaker 4: say the arrows, but you want to do it with
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  Speaker 4: at the same time as another person. You have to
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  Speaker 4: be able to read the signals of what's going on
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  Speaker 4: with you know, where are they with the with the
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  Speaker 4: goal of saying the arrow at the same time. So
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  Speaker 4: it requires like tuning in to how other people are feeling,
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  Speaker 4: where are they, where are they in their process so
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  Speaker 4: that we work together, we collaborate, and so it's it's
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  Speaker 4: relationship building.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like coherence, like emotional coherence or coregulation
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  Speaker 2: is another word that we use, yep. And it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like you're saying that if people use this brain retraining modality,
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  Speaker 2: which is called combat combat brain.
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  Speaker 3: Retraining, combat brain training, yeah, combat.
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  Speaker 2: Brain training, that if they use it together, then it
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  Speaker 2: brings them to a space of coregulation. And what we
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  Speaker 2: know is when people are in coregulation, they are connected,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, more appt to have empathy for each other,
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  Speaker 2: compassion for each other, understanding for each other, and a
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  Speaker 2: much better space to have effective communication.
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  Speaker 3: And that's challenging for couples because.
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  Speaker 2: They go out into the world, they do their thing,
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  Speaker 2: they're tending to different, very different things from each other,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're kind of expected to like show up
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  Speaker 2: at dinner time and be like, Okay, we're connected, and
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  Speaker 2: of course it doesn't happen that way. And in my
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  Speaker 2: couple's therapy practice, you know, there's lots of different modalities
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  Speaker 2: that I was using when I was really focused on
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  Speaker 2: that kind of work. And it sounds like this is
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  Speaker 2: another piece to support them in coming back together or
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  Speaker 2: in my language, coming back to love with.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting. Wow, that's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I did part of my program. It includes
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  Speaker 2: brain retraining, which is interesting that we are here together today,
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  Speaker 2: my book which is sitting right here. I know my
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  Speaker 2: readers can't my listeners can't see it because we're on
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  Speaker 2: the radio, but I'm just showing it if it can
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  Speaker 2: even show up on the screen. Part of the four
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  Speaker 2: Gates approach to coming back to love includes rewiring the
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  Speaker 2: brain because for me, in the trauma that I experienced
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  Speaker 2: in my life a long time ago as a child,
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  Speaker 2: I did a lot of emotional healing, really helpful over
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  Speaker 2: many men years, very helpful, but I couldn't quite get
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  Speaker 2: to it completely. It was like something just I had
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  Speaker 2: some physical symptoms that just were still persisting no matter
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  Speaker 2: what I did. They would get a little better, but
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't, like completely heal.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of coincidence which I don't really believe in. I believe
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  Speaker 2: this was, you know, something meant for me. A friend
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  Speaker 2: introduced me to one of the brain retraining programs and
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  Speaker 2: it was COVID, and I was like, sure, why not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling that I have a lot of time on
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  Speaker 2: my hands. And I did the program for a solid year.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't take a solid year for improvements to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Improvements happened right away, and it took a real deep
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  Speaker 2: commitment on my part to heal. And those symptoms are
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  Speaker 2: actually completely gone since twenty twenty one. And so I'm
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  Speaker 2: a huge fan of brain retraining, and I teach some
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  Speaker 2: of it to my clients to work on limiting beliefs
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  Speaker 2: that are stuck.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, I know that. The origin of all of
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  Speaker 4: what's been ineffective in my life. What happened at six
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  Speaker 4: months old? You know, my parents left. My parents left
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  Speaker 4: for three days, left me with an aunt and uncle,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought my mother wasn't coming back, and I
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  Speaker 4: freaked out. I panicked, I yelled and screamed, and she
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  Speaker 4: didn't come back. And so I said, Okay, I have
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  Speaker 4: to take care of myself. Yeah, and a coach helped
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  Speaker 4: me realize what I was never going to be able
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  Speaker 4: to see myself that in addition to deciding I have
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  Speaker 4: take care of myself as I have to take care
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  Speaker 4: of everybody else too. Ah.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm raising my hand on that one. Both of those. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And this led to fear abandonment. So it's like today,
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  Speaker 4: what that looks like is I don't like making phone calls.
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  Speaker 4: How many people don't like making phone calls in their business?
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  Speaker 4: Fear of rejection was so huge that making phone calls
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  Speaker 4: was actively dangerous as far as I was concerned, and
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  Speaker 4: there was no way I was doing that, and fear
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  Speaker 4: about making mistakes. I used to think that if I
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  Speaker 4: made a mistake, of the end of the universe, not
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  Speaker 4: just the end of me, but the end of everything.
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  Speaker 4: So I was six months old and I don't have
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  Speaker 4: a you know, a logical conclusion to make. This is
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  Speaker 4: why anytime I don't know how to do something or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: it's like God just this complete overwhelm and panic. And
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  Speaker 4: so when I was in NLP training, I put all
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  Speaker 4: these pieces together realized why I just had this panic,
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  Speaker 4: seek out response to everything. It's like, well, because there's
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  Speaker 4: six months old making the decisions here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then I was in a big sashion
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  Speaker 4: to heal it all, and I was talking to my
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  Speaker 4: mother in my mind and you know, sobbings not everywhere,
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  Speaker 4: and everything came out. And then it's like it was
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  Speaker 4: like empty, and time stood still, and all the colors
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  Speaker 4: looked different, and the pain in my neck and head
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  Speaker 4: was gone.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing, yeah, amazing.
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  Speaker 4: It's like for decades I have believed that it's possible
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  Speaker 4: to heal physical things with mental and emotional healing, but
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  Speaker 4: I hadn't experienced it yet, and so there was always
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  Speaker 4: this doubt, is it real? Can I do that? And
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  Speaker 4: so when it finally happens, it's like, oh, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: it actually is true.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I want to just let that land firm because
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of our listeners as I'm always doing when
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  Speaker 2: I'm you know, on this radio show in this radio station,
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  Speaker 2: and like, how many people out there also have that
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  Speaker 2: question or had had or have that question like is
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  Speaker 2: it possible to heal? Is it actually possible? And if so,
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  Speaker 2: how you know? And there are a lot of modalities
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  Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, I think for me too. Until
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  Speaker 2: I found the brain retraining, I felt like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: healed some you know, this is great. I felt a
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  Speaker 2: thousand times better than I had been feeling earlier in
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  Speaker 2: my life because I had a similar experience to you
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  Speaker 2: with abandonment very early on and my parents leaving me
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  Speaker 2: different places because my mother was getting treatments for different
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  Speaker 2: things for cancer and actually they never told us that
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  Speaker 2: she had cancer, so they would just drop me and
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  Speaker 2: my sister off without any explanation. And you know, similar
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  Speaker 2: to you, it's like, you know, like total freak out,
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  Speaker 2: like yep, you know, even if it was people that
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  Speaker 2: I that I knew it wasn't my parents, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I was really young, so I totally get it.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I really appreciate what you said and feel
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm celebrating the fact that, like you were
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  Speaker 2: able to make that connection. I would love to hear
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  Speaker 2: about and I bet my listeners would too, and our
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  Speaker 2: listeners would love to hear about sound sound healing.
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  Speaker 3: I love sound healing.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, So when I am working with somebody's brain or
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  Speaker 4: something going on in their bodies, not necessarily just in
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  Speaker 4: the brain, I see it in my mind, and their
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  Speaker 4: bodies talk to me, show me what they are too
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  Speaker 4: close to themselves to be able to see. And I
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  Speaker 4: see the structures in the body, and I see the
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  Speaker 4: energy and where the energy is stuck and where the
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  Speaker 4: energy is flowing, and I see the issues that are
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  Speaker 4: stuck in the area. So when I use the tuning
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  Speaker 4: fork on the hockey pock to make the sound, it
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  Speaker 4: amplifies what I see. It amplifies the emotional intensity, it
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  Speaker 4: amplifies the energy of it, and I use this to
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  Speaker 4: help it shift and move inside the person I am
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  Speaker 4: working with. I love helping people understand the anatomy. So
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  Speaker 4: when I see the structures. You know, I have a baptism,
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  Speaker 4: chemistry and a background in science and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and I explain to them what's going on in their
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  Speaker 4: body that they don't really understand, but I want to
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  Speaker 4: empower them to be able to help themselves. So the
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  Speaker 4: more they understand, the more they can help themselves. So
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  Speaker 4: what I think and what I feel and what I
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  Speaker 4: tell my body to do, it's like instructions. If I
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  Speaker 4: want to heal this, whatever it is in my body,
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  Speaker 4: it is like telling my body, this is what I want,
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  Speaker 4: and so doing this helps me to see it and
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  Speaker 4: then give them instructions, and it's like it shows me
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  Speaker 4: a roadmap for the healing that the person has to do.
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  Speaker 4: So I just take whatever it is that I look at,
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  Speaker 4: it their their soul. Their body is giving me information
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  Speaker 4: so that they can hear it, so I receive it.
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  Speaker 4: I tell them, and then they're giving instructions to their
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  Speaker 4: body what they want their body to do. And at
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  Speaker 4: the same time, I am doing it from the outside
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  Speaker 4: energetically as well.
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  Speaker 3: Got it. Wow? Fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: So the sound is really opening or supporting you and
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  Speaker 2: more in a in a more deeply.
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  Speaker 3: Opening to your own intuition.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like your intuition is there.
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  Speaker 3: You're an intuitive person.
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  Speaker 2: You can see with your eyes certain things, like my
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  Speaker 2: intuition shows up in a certain way. Your shows up
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  Speaker 2: this way. But when you use the sound, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's opening more for you to get even more information.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. And the client, you know, the person, they like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they like you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like when I go to an in person
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  Speaker 4: networking meeting, they always like it. When I do this,
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  Speaker 4: and you know I have friends, it's like, oh, I
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  Speaker 4: just you know, they relax when I do the tuning part.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very relaxing. Some people use just the tuning
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  Speaker 2: fork to do healing on bodies. You know, you lye
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  Speaker 2: on a table and they'll do the vibrational healing with
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  Speaker 2: the tuning fork on the body itself. You're using it
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  Speaker 2: in a slightly different way, but we know that the
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  Speaker 2: vibration of the sound is healing the frequencies.
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  Speaker 3: The frequency is amazing, right.
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  Speaker 4: So this particular set of set of equipment, this is
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  Speaker 4: this is the tuning forks from biofilm tuning. Some tuning
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  Speaker 4: forks are designed to have a very strong frequency of
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  Speaker 4: the actual frequency on the fork, so the frequency of
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  Speaker 4: these one hundred and seventy four hurts. Some are designed
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  Speaker 4: to have the as pure a tone as possible. It's
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  Speaker 4: not really possible to have it be a completely pure tone,
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  Speaker 4: but some tuning forks are designed to have as strong tuning.
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  Speaker 4: So this, you know, the equipment from biofed Tuning, is
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  Speaker 4: designed to have an impure tone. So it's got that
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  Speaker 4: strong tone, but then it's got all sorts of harmonics
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  Speaker 4: other frequencies available as well. So when I am working
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  Speaker 4: with you, there is something in your body or in
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  Speaker 4: your being is that needs a certain frequency, and if
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  Speaker 4: I have a broad spectrum of frequencies available, your system
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  Speaker 4: can draw from it the frequencies that you need.
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  Speaker 3: Oh nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's why I like using this this particular
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  Speaker 4: or tuning fork, and this equipment is opposed to the
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  Speaker 4: ones that have the more pure tone.
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  Speaker 3: Nice, really nice.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a little more time today and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just shout out to our listeners and thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being here. I'm curious if we talked about brain fog,
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  Speaker 2: and as a sixty year old woman, as someone who
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  Speaker 2: works in the relationship field, what I hear mostly And
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're not going to be surprised what I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to say, and that is that people that are
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  Speaker 2: going through menopause or perimenopause and menopause, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people talk about brain fog, and I wonder, yeah, how
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  Speaker 2: your work or how the combat brain brain training program, like,
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  Speaker 2: have you worked with clients that are in that situation.
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  Speaker 4: I've really just started doing combat brain training. It's been
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  Speaker 4: a recent addition to what I do. And working with
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  Speaker 4: hormone balance, there's a big part of that. Okay, My
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  Speaker 4: first suggestion is always to make sure you get enough
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  Speaker 4: water so that that's you know, always, that's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a good recommendation to start off with. Then looking
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  Speaker 4: at how are you doing nutritionally because hormone balance is
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  Speaker 4: going to be all over the place when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to these changes, and supporting nutrition as much as possible
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  Speaker 4: so that your body has the basic building blocks that
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  Speaker 4: it needs to be able to. Then regulate the hormones
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  Speaker 4: as much as possible back towards normal. Then I would
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  Speaker 4: look at, okay, so how is the energy moving in
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  Speaker 4: your body? You know, if the energy is not moving,
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  Speaker 4: then things aren't going to work properly. Is there trauma
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  Speaker 4: to deal with? So all the things that I would
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  Speaker 4: normally work with for somebody, and then you know, looking
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  Speaker 4: at what are your thoughts, what are your beliefs, because
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  Speaker 4: all of those are going to have a big impact.
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  Speaker 4: Are there stresses in your life and in relationships? All
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  Speaker 4: these factors? You know, the truth is we have incredibly
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  Speaker 4: complex lives and our ability to juggle like a zillion
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  Speaker 4: things is kind of astonishing actually what we are able
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  Speaker 4: to do. Yes, and at a time when the body
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  Speaker 4: naturally is reregulating and trying to figure out how to
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  Speaker 4: do hormones, which is the whole menopause thing, it takes
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  Speaker 4: our normal are what we're used to being able to accomplish,
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  Speaker 4: what we're used to being able to do, to do
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  Speaker 4: whatever we need to do, and it's like it shifts
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  Speaker 4: it to a different place. And so it's like what's
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  Speaker 4: going on ah at the same time, So you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's so many things to do.
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  Speaker 2: So true, I'm really glad to hear that this work
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  Speaker 2: is applicable to menopause, to rebalancing hormones into looking at
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  Speaker 2: all the factors. Because I'll just say briefly before we
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  Speaker 2: closer today that you know, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: women feel like it's a given. You know, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: through menopause. I'm going to have these symptoms. My sex
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  Speaker 2: life is over. You know, I'm gonna have brain fog,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have night sweats. And I went through menopause
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  Speaker 2: early in my life. I didn't have any of those experiences,
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  Speaker 2: So I talk a lot about Actually, no, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's not a given. And there are so many factors
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  Speaker 2: that you just mentioned which I really appreciate.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I also had zero menopause symptoms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a few, but a lot of acupuncture
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  Speaker 2: just you know, they went away.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nutrition, nutrition, yes, nutrition, nutrition and acupuncture for me,
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  Speaker 2: that was both. But yeah, Sandra, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for being here and talking with me and our listeners
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  Speaker 2: and shout out to my lost mass Yeah. Good see
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