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Elon Musk 'chainsaw for bureaucracy' interview by JD Vance at CPAC! · Elon Musk Thinking

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  Speaker 1: That was something I am become meme. Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I was living the meme. I'm just like
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  Speaker 1: it just.
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  Speaker 2: Living the dream and there's living the meme and it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty much what's happening. You know, you're like I think
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  Speaker 2: you're he door started out as a meme.
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  Speaker 1: Think about it now, It's real.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? It is?
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  Speaker 1: It is crazy, but it's cool.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 4: A year ago, if someone had told you you'd be
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  Speaker 4: at seapack and working with the president absolutely shred the government,
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  Speaker 4: the swamp, whatever you want to call it, would you
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  Speaker 4: ever believe then?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, you need it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: This is awesome, and I just want to say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for your support.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, guys, are you know so I mean we're
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to get get good things done, but also like
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  Speaker 2: you know, have a good time doing it and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and have like a sense of humor.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so like I mean, the sort of the.
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  Speaker 2: Left wanted to make comedy illegal. You know, you can't
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  Speaker 2: make fun of anything, so it was like comedy sucks.
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  Speaker 1: It's like nothing's funny, you can't make fun of anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's like legalized comedy, Yeah, legalized comedy.
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  Speaker 4: And we've we've shifted the entire culture in just the
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  Speaker 4: last few months.
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  Speaker 3: The whole culture of.
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  Speaker 4: This country has shifted dramatically just because of that election.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: You know, freedom of speech, having you know, having fun again.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like we should have we should have a
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  Speaker 1: good time, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a great time. Everybody in this
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  Speaker 3: place is so excited. And yeah, I haven't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean when you talk to conservatives, everybody's happy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Feels this great sense of relief because we were going
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  Speaker 4: to hell for about four years.
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  Speaker 1: It really felt bad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially toward the end, it felt really bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought were I thought we were
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  Speaker 2: sort of heading for a point and overturn really, you know,
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  Speaker 2: until That's why I was so essential that President Trump
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  Speaker 2: win the election and uh, and that there will be
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  Speaker 2: a Republican majority in the House of Senate, which, thanks to.
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  Speaker 1: You, would that that has been accomplished.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I.
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  Speaker 4: Want to ask you one of the biggest questions I
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  Speaker 4: have for you is, and you've you've been you know politically,
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  Speaker 4: you weren't really on one side or the other for
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  Speaker 4: a long time.
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  Speaker 3: You're a businessman.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people stay away from it. Now you're
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  Speaker 4: on a side, and you've chosen to decide. You're sitting
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  Speaker 4: here in a maga hat.
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  Speaker 3: What what's it? How did that happen? What was the moment?
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  Speaker 2: You know, dark gothic magas, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: What was there a specific moment? Was there a moment
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  Speaker 3: that it all changed?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I realized it was a fool, But no,
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I guess uh yeah, I mean i'd say, like its
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  Speaker 2: politically neutral for for quite a while, you know, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Leaning a little democrat. You know, how do you go
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  Speaker 1: from this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, did they go crazy?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: They did.
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  Speaker 1: They did go crazy and they were crazy. No, I
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  Speaker 1: mean the whole cancel culture, and.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's trying to stuff freedom of speech and
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  Speaker 2: in fringe upon just in general, in fringe upon people's
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  Speaker 2: personal freedoms. You know, they just want state control, state
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  Speaker 2: control of what you say. They want to you know,
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  Speaker 2: take away your your guns and the reason why, take
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  Speaker 2: all your vuns. So like there's nothing you do to
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  Speaker 2: oppose them. So it's sort of like, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: just I just like we just need to restore the
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  Speaker 2: fundamental elements of what made America great, which is a
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  Speaker 2: freedom and opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: We're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in the West.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's not just about America we're watching. We're all
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  Speaker 4: watching Europe and knowing that they're about fifty hundred years
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  Speaker 4: ahead of us, right because they got an early start,
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  Speaker 4: and we're watching how they're devolving, and you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: save it from happening here.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean in Europe they put people in prison for memes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, that's insane.
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  Speaker 3: And they're collapsing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a society is it's a collapsing society.
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  Speaker 4: It feels that way. It feels like France was nicer
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  Speaker 4: fifty years ago than it is today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you can question that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but yeah, I mean really nice. I me,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I really I really just wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: Useful things, like you know, basically build products, you know,
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  Speaker 2: provide products and services that are that are good and
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  Speaker 2: uh that I wasn't really like that interested in being political.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like there was at a certain point no choice.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, can I ask you what on the same
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  Speaker 4: side of that coin, what's it like from going neutral
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  Speaker 4: to being vilified, largely villafied by the media.
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  Speaker 1: You're what, no, really, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean to turn on some of these channels, brother, I
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  Speaker 4: mean they're angry.
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  Speaker 3: Does it bother you at all?
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  Speaker 1: This?
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  Speaker 2: I mean when they're chanting for my death, I suppose
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  Speaker 2: that's a little yeah good, but then like the song
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  Speaker 2: is not even that good, and that it's like, like
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  Speaker 2: you call that a death chant.
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  Speaker 1: That's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: They've been singing a lot of good music.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of music lately. It's not good music.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that they're you know, watching what
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  Speaker 4: you're doing with those is just that people love it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've always looked at the government, and I've
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  Speaker 3: always looked at the government.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen this big machine that and you just know
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  Speaker 4: that the waste because they don't care. Nobody could there's
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  Speaker 4: more money coming, they don't care.
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  Speaker 3: You're cutting all this out.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody in this country knows that the government is full
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  Speaker 4: of waste, fraud.
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  Speaker 1: And abuse.
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  Speaker 4: And you're doing the work and the Americans love it.
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  Speaker 4: Watching their reaction politically to this, I can't believe how
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  Speaker 4: bad they are responding to this. I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna sit there and scream and complain because they're
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  Speaker 4: cutting waste out of the government and try to win
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  Speaker 4: another election.
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  Speaker 3: How do you try to win on them?
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  Speaker 2: Well, at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 2: much of the left is even real?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: How much was propped up by our money? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like literally you see like these these sort of
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  Speaker 2: fake rallies where it's like hardly any any people, and
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  Speaker 2: the media will like frame it and like you know,
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  Speaker 2: get full six people you know in the frame, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like nobody else is there, like just it's it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have popular support, but but there's But then you
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  Speaker 2: learn that like this hundreds of billions of dollars going
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  Speaker 2: to be so called NGO.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh that that that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's your tax dollars that are funding things that
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  Speaker 2: are fundamentally anti American and the propping up their narrative.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of that government money has been propping
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  Speaker 4: up a left that I don't think is as strong
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  Speaker 4: as they made it seem.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, a massive amount of of your tax dollars
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  Speaker 2: is going to legacy media companies.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, uh, directly from the from the from the government.
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  Speaker 3: The government wants to take over media.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we have X.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's.
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  Speaker 4: Why you spend forty four billion dollars. I mean there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money, I mean, more than it was
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  Speaker 4: probably worth, but it had.
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  Speaker 1: There was a message freedom is priceless, priceless.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably one of the most important investments this country's
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  Speaker 4: ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: If you've got to protect the First.
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  Speaker 4: Amendment, it's not much more important than that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I got a lot of criticism and
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  Speaker 2: Puel said, well that proves he is a huge idiot
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  Speaker 2: from a you know, like look, you know you voted.
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  Speaker 1: For whatever forty four billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's worth like eight cents, and but you.
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  Speaker 1: Know that's that.
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  Speaker 2: But but the yeah, it was essentially to you know,
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  Speaker 2: by freedom of expression.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, that's gone. It's all over. It's all over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the tyranny is really quick after that. Yeah, I mean, like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's all all the sort of federal money
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  Speaker 2: going to media companies is what what helps explain why
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  Speaker 2: the legacy media all says the same thing at the
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  Speaker 2: same time. Yeah, like this is it like it's like weird,
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  Speaker 2: like you can put them up where it's like you know, like.
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  Speaker 4: When they their mouthpieces for for the state, for the state.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and that's that's what we've come to know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, scary and I like that being where they where
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  Speaker 2: they because they're always saying, like threat.
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  Speaker 1: To our democracy?
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  Speaker 2: Is that threat to But if you just replaced democracy
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  Speaker 2: with bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bigres to the bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about let's talk about these dose dividend checks
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  Speaker 4: that everybody's talking about this week. And I know you
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  Speaker 4: tweeted out that you're gonna does everybody want like a
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  Speaker 4: five thousand dollars check in the mail? Sounds kind of good, right,
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  Speaker 4: And and the best part about it would be knowing
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  Speaker 4: where it came from.
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  Speaker 3: That that's five grand that you sent them last year.
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  Speaker 2: Totally, it's it's it's it's money that's taken away from
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  Speaker 2: from things that are destructive to the country. That and
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  Speaker 2: from organizations that hate you. To you, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: It does it seem I mean, have you talked.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's glorious.
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  Speaker 2: That's like the spoils of battle, you know, I like
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  Speaker 2: that is.
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  Speaker 1: There is there traction on that yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, uh yeah, I took the president he's
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  Speaker 2: supportive of that, and so it sounds like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's something we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So as we're fining savings, that's going to translate directly
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  Speaker 2: to reductions in attacks.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I think they fired six thousand
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  Speaker 4: people at the I R S today. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 4: think Letnik said last night that they're talking about shutting
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  Speaker 4: down the IRS, and I think it's fair. I think
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  Speaker 4: people should realize this is I mean the amount of
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  Speaker 4: money that we said we send Washington like five or
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  Speaker 4: six trillion a year, that is such an ungodly amount
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  Speaker 4: of money. I mean what they say, like a trillion
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  Speaker 4: seconds is like thirty years or something like that. I
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  Speaker 4: mean that's how much we send them, and they seem
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  Speaker 4: to never have enough.
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  Speaker 3: There must be a lot you can cut.
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  Speaker 1: No, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: People ask me, what's the most surprising thing that you've
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  Speaker 2: encountered when you go to DC, you know, when you're
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  Speaker 2: in DC, and I said, well, the most surprising thing
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  Speaker 2: is the scale of the expenditures and actually how easy
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  Speaker 2: it is to with just just when you add caring
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  Speaker 2: and competence where it was absent before you can actually
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  Speaker 2: save billions of dollars sometimes in an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild.
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  Speaker 4: And then they scoff at it and then say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: a few billion here there. I mean, the way they're
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  Speaker 4: talking about it, you can see they don't care. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's so it's such a little money compared to how
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  Speaker 4: much they're used to wasting.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's really scary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, it's exactly, but obviously it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it just shows that they really lack empathy for the
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  Speaker 2: average taxpayer who's working hard, paying paying taxes. And then
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  Speaker 2: and then they say, oh, a million dollars doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I think it ratters a lot. Yeah, people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what are you talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to have it. Let me ask you a question.
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I know the president fairly well.
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  Speaker 4: Watched him survive two assassination attempts, the second.
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  Speaker 3: Had the first one not happened, the second one.
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  Speaker 1: Would have gotten them.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was very because without those extra guys,
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  Speaker 4: they would have never seen that gun poking through the
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  Speaker 4: fence at the golf course.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that the crew that the crew that you
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  Speaker 2: mind blowing that this has happened I mean it just
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  Speaker 2: and what, by the way, why do we still learn.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing about that guy in Butler? What's going on? But
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  Speaker 1: he's cash is going to get to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Well way, yeah, confirm confirmed just
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  Speaker 4: a couple of hours ago. But I saw that the
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  Speaker 4: security detail that you had come in is enormous.
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  Speaker 1: Well that enormous. Maybe it should be vag I think you.
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  Speaker 3: Could probably afford it.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, how concerned are you about your safety dealing?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's you are you are a wanted man?
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  Speaker 1: Are you?
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  Speaker 3: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 2: I look, I'm open to ideas for improving security. I
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  Speaker 2: have to tell you, like, I don't actually have a
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  Speaker 2: death wish, I think, but but you know, it's not
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  Speaker 2: that easy. So uh yeah, I mean but I have
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  Speaker 2: like I've had even like people like President Bokelly from
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  Speaker 2: El Salvador who managed to put in prison like like
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  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand like murderous thugs. And he was like
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  Speaker 2: he told me, He's like, I'm worried about your security.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're you're worried about my security. I'm like, what, okay,
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  Speaker 1: do you know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, talk about guts to do that down there?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, totally and survive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I was like, how did you put all
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  Speaker 2: those thugs in prison without dying?
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  Speaker 1: Because things like that would have been not easy.
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  Speaker 4: You know. Well, there's the president is one of his
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  Speaker 4: top attorneys is down investigating I guess Chuck Schumer for
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: threats against Skotis Congressman. The Democrats side, we're saying, you know,
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  Speaker 4: basically saying you're going.
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  Speaker 3: To bring a war to you, like a fight to you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the rhetoric.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are screwing with things that are not supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be messed with you. We're fighting a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people that really don't want that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're fighting matrix big time here. Yeah, but has
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  Speaker 2: got to be done. Yeah, and are.
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  Speaker 4: It certainly does. What's what's going on with tell us
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: about Fort Knox. Yeah, there's Kentucky. It's a military base.
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  Speaker 4: It's a ton of gold, tons and tons and tons.
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  Speaker 1: Five thousand tons of gold or.
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  Speaker 4: Are there in the ground and like this, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's a very secure thing.
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  Speaker 2: We'll want to see it, you know, I'd love to
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  Speaker 2: see it, like this is your gold.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, it's the public's goal.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's not there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but we just want to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to go see it and just make
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: sure like somebody to just spray paint some letter or something.
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  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, like is this real gold?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have to bite the bar, you know, didn't.
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  Speaker 2: But I think, honestly, you know, part of this also
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  Speaker 2: is just like let's let's you know, let's have some
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  Speaker 2: fun and and and uh you know, like like I said,
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  Speaker 2: this this all this gold at Fort Knox. It's the
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  Speaker 2: public's goal, it's your goal. So like I think you
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  Speaker 2: have like a right to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Take a tour, you know. Yeah, I think we should
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  Speaker 1: have to do it. Do it.
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  Speaker 2: Turned then the President last night was like that's not I
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  Speaker 2: think he's your favorite of it.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be cool. And then we like it should be
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  Speaker 1: like a live tour, like you can see what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Open the door, like what's behind it? Well, and there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think i'd watch that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you kidding? Yeah, I mean, what is what is
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  Speaker 3: five thousand tons of food? How big is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: The size of it?
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  Speaker 1: This is gonna be pretty big.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's got to be a lot of there's
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  Speaker 2: some other stuff in there, like it's what walk around like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I get some other stuff in there?
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  Speaker 3: Are are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as.
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  Speaker 4: Well, which is obviously yeah, sure, regulatory economy. I I
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  Speaker 4: imagine you think the waste has got to be everywhere?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, waste.
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  Speaker 2: Waste is pretty much where people ask how can you
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  Speaker 2: find waste in like in DC? I'm like, look, it's
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: like being in a room, uh created and this target,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: the wall, the roofs, and the floor are old targets.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: So it's like you're gonna close rise and go shoot
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: in any direction.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Because you can't miss, you know.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: So it's it's it's pretty wild, like like you just
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: push on things a little bit and you say.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Billions of dollars like just a little bit. You know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: it's wild.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: It's scary, isn't it.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: That's why I say it, like it really is underrated.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: If you add carrying and competence, how much things improve
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: and you know, and we we just find so many
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: totally crazy things, which you know, obviously we're sharing with
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the public. We post everything we learn, you know, just
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: you know, so you.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Can see it. You know, what do you I mean?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, isn't it, Like it's.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Totally wild, Like we didn't just we just did like
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: a check the database on Social Security, Like he says,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: how many Americans alive Americans eligible for Social Security are there?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: And according to the database, it's over four hundred million,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: And we're like, wait a second.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And how many are how many are again? Yeah?
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: And then like we found like one person in there
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: is like three hundred and sixty years old.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what do they know?
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: You know, the America doesn't exist before at that time.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Like so we were colonies. You know.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, But are.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: There indications that those that there were checks going to
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: those people, any.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Of those people?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, I guess the question, right.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, I get the Social Security Administration's dumb, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: are they paying these people?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Are they that dumb?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, a.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Bunch of money is going out from the Social Security
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Administration and in fact from all entitled programs seventy.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Billion and waste in like seven years, it's ten billion
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: a year.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the fraudulent.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Payments the rough estimate from General Government Accountability officers as
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: over five hundred billion dollars a forty year for five
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: hundred billion.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: And how old the time per year per year on
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Social Security?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: No, No, on all government, on all entitlements, all entitlements.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sort of actually makes sense when you look
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: at the thing from a top level and say, like, okay,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: the seven trillion dollars was spending by the government, what
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: percentage do you think is fraudulent? Okay, exactly, Like a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: conservative estimate of the seven trillion would be ten percent.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Conservative probably will hire that exactly. It's like a quarter
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: hunt a dollar, right, But if the fraud's.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Only ten percent of seven trillion, you've got seven hundred
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: billion dollars of fraud.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And by the way, it's like really easy to take
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: advantage of the federal government, very easy.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Easy.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Look at COVID.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, everybody got reach during COVID.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at all these stars.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I mean it's unbelievable.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: It looks like in terms of COVID payments, there was
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: something like two hundred billion dollars of COVID payment fraud.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Taken by frauds's out of the country.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's like, I think we've listening. There's gonna be FORUDA
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: should a least be domestic. So you know, but they
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: managed to get two hundred billion dollars out of the country.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what didn't we notice that?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you, let's do immigration here for a second.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: You know, there's this move now that the Trump's latest
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: thing is that he cut He's gonna cut funding any
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: kind of money that ends up in the hands of
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: illegal immigrants.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: So if you're funding these sanctuary.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Cities and states, that's how they thrive, right, They're paying
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: for these hotels, that's all federal money. If you've got
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: a hotel in your city in New York, you got
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: all these hotels full of migrants, that's not state money,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: that's a Feds.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Are covering that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: He's gonna cut all that. It's really hard to deport
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: fifteen million people.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: And it seems like the move now is let's see
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: if we especially at the rate that we're going, it
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: seems like.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: The move now is let's make it so that they
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: leave on their own.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: If there's no longer a dual system for them, if
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: they can't get their hands on hotel rooms and money,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: they're going to go back, especially if there's no work.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's really important for people that understand that
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the Biden administration sent any possible money that they could.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: They could. If there was money they could send to.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Facilitate and amplify illegal immigration, they sent it. Okay, they
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: took money from FEMA meantful helping Americans in distress and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: sent that money to luxury hotels for legal immigrants.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: In New York an outrage.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yea, they actually did that, and only that even after
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the President signed an executive order saying it has to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: stop the famous the sort of whatever deep state bureaucrats
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: still still press send on eighty million dollars last week.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: To go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New York and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: other places last week.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Now and now they're mad that got stopped and they're
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: like trying to sue to have it be restored.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It's like the gumption you.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Think they're creating a new voter classes.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Would you think that was the goal when they open
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: up orders for four years, create a new voter class
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and get them citizenship, get them in, Yeah, vote.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: A lot of these things like you don't actually have
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: to assume some grand conspiracy. You just need to look
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: at basic incentives benefits. So if the incentives fundamentally, if
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: at some point, whether it's a cheating but eventually they
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: can become citizens.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But if probability is like eighty ninety.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Percent, just look at California, which is the super majority
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: dem and then the incentive is to maximize the number
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of illegals in the country. That is why the Biding
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: administration was pushing to get in as many illegals as
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: because every one of them is a customer, everyone is
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a voter.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so the whole thing is a giant.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Voter importation scam, pretty obvious, very obvious. And then moreover
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: then they actually created the CVP one voter app thing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Where they were which is like where they could they
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: were literally fly people in. It's not like at the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: point in which you know, people being flown in at
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: your expense.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Sending planes wall up doesn't fly them over the board
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: literally flying them in. No other no other country in
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the world would do something like this. Nobody is as stupid.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we found that it was like a
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollar contract given to some guy in London
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: actually oddly, you know, for the CVP one app So
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: then so they're flying illegals into the swing states. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: if you've got like a modulive victory of maybe twenty
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: thousand people and you fly two hundred thousand illegals into
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that state, it's not.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Going to be a swing state. Belong.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Change the numbers eventually, yeah, maybe in four eight years exactly.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It's just a matter of it's a long game. It's
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: just a matter of time.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: So it might take like a year for an asyunment
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: securse something to get on to get a green card,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: in five years for the citizenship. It's it's an investment
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: that is guaranteed to pay off.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Just a question of when they all remember who brought
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: them in and who.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Left them here exactly exactly.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I want to go back. I want to talk about
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: big deal.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people like don't quite appreciate
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that this was an actual, real scam at scale to.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Tilt the scales of democracy in America.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Treasons treason, yeah, yeah, one more Biden question. I remember
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: when you know, when they would do the electric car stuff,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: they would always try to box you out even though
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you have the only electric car anybody wants. Yeah, you said,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I think this week that you think that Biden left
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: these astronauts up in space because he didn't want to
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: give you an opportunity to save them, make NASA look bad,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: make the private sector look better, make you look good,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: you believe it?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so, of course I.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Kind of agree.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, why would you want to let you help
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: them come down when you're supporting the president.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Biden administration was attacking the next level, I mean the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: departmatists of justice or injustice under the Biden administration was Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was suing SpaceX's they're suing space x
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: for not hiring asylum seekers and we're like, but it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: actually illegal for us to hire up silent sekerts because
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: we're rocket technology. She is covered under it TAR rules,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: which is that means it's an advanced weapons technology, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: so we can only hire permanent residents or green or
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: or citizens like so, we're damned if we do it,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: damned if we don't. We still like, so, how can
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they sue us for not hiring a sound seekers when
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it's actually illegal for us to do so? But nonetheless
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: there was a big Department of Justice or Injustice case
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: about this against SpaceX. So obviously it was an antagonistic situation.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: eight days and now they're up there for eight months.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Does that make any sense? And we obviously could have
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: brought them back sooner, but they didn't want it to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to look good. Basically, Yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: that's the that's the issue.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: A lot of them are saying right now that the
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: reason that you want to get into Social Security, that
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: you want to get into all of these different into
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: personal information and you're trying to make more money.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: less about money in my life. Every time I hear
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: a story about you, you're sleeping on a couch of
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: some other guy in a city.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: That you could buy the entire thing.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think you care about money, dude.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: No, Actually, I I.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Mean listen, like if I if I steal some Social Security,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I can finally buy nice things.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and on that same question, they're also
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: talking about you guys are gonna end social Security, You're
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: gonna end Medicare, You're gonna end these things. I don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: imagine that conversation has been head with the president.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the plan.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: No, in fact, the action instead we're taking, with the
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: support of the President and the support of the agencies,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: is what will save Medicare, what will save social Security?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: And and it's it's because if the country goes in solvent,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: if if if all the if all the money is
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: just spent on paying interest on debt, there's no money
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: left for anything. So that's that's the reason I'm doing this,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: is because I'm I was looking at the big picture
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: here and it's like, man our dat's getting out of control. Uh,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the the interest payments, the interest on the national debt
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: now exceeds the entire Defense Department budget.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Trillion a year. Interest just to carry the money that
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: we owe is a trillion a year.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, rising rapidly. It's so so like it's I mean,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: a country is not different from a person. Country overspends,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: country goes bankrupt. Same what the same as a person
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: who overspends goes bankrupt.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So it's it's not like optional to solve these things.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: It's essential.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: So we're gonna go back there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, we are.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: A couple of minutes left here Russia. There's a huge
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: push from oh.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like day like yah, you know, I'm a
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: on the board asset of Putin.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he can't afford me.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you're worth more than Russia.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Think about it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: So what we're you're trying to end. You're trying to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: end a war, it's all.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Any war always means you have to compromise, you have
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: to negotiate.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: With an enemy or an adversary. That's just what it is.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: And right now they are land basking the president for
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: trying a different method to war that they haven't been
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: able to end.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: For three and a half years or three years.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know they're saying Trump's blaming Zelensky for the invasion.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: How do you how do you process all of the
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: negativity towards him for trying to end this war?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think we should have empathy
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: for the people dying at the front lines. That's the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: most important thing. And people have been dying, you know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: it's like, how many more years is this supposed to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: go on. Yeah, and I imagine if that was your son,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: your father, you know, what are they dying for?
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: What exactly arey're dying for?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: That line has the line of engagement is barely moved
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: for two years. There's a how much people dead in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: trenches for what? And I'll tell you work for what
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: it's like for the biggest graph machine that I've ever
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: seen in my life.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: That's for what.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: It's it's unreal Like the amount of money that is
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: being taken in graft and bribery is disgusting. And so
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: what's actually happening is that those those you know people,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: those poor guys are getting sent into a meat grinder
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: for money. That's what's actually going on, and it needs
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to stop.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: And that's I mean, that's it seems. I mean, Trump
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: is so pragmatic on this.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: He's just he's just looking at it, and he's saying,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: it's Ukraine, it's not our country, it's not a NATO ally.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I just want to see people not dying. I want
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: to see on both sides.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, think about how many young so many young
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: men have died in Ukraine that the army is starting
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: to age out the military is aging out. You get
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: forty and five, your old guys fighting in a war
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: because there's nobody left that's not killed or mained in
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: their twenties. That's the reality of the Think about how
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: many people that is. If you're a humanitarian at all,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: you just got to end the war, like, no matter what,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: just get it over with.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, people, they need to stop dying. And uh and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the griff machine's got to stop, you know. So uh
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And I think people that don't a lot of people
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: out there don't realize, Like the President has a lot
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of empathy.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: He really cares, you know, He's a good He's a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: good man.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: So I got one more for you.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I've been fascinated by you for a very long time.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I've just I just I've never seen anybody that can,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: you know, do so many things at the same time.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, you've got the rockets, you got the cars.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I've always wanted to ask you, what is it like
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: inside your mind?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Like this is it just a thousand miles an hour?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, are you is it just not? I mean,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: just does it ever stop? Do you sleep? How much
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: do you sleep?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: What's paint us a picture of inside of the mind
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: of a genius, Like, how do you, uh, can you
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: answer that question?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: It's not an easy question.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, my mind is a storm. Yeah, so yeah,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's a storm.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But but I mean, let me maybe tell you something
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: like you're gonna ask the question, but but I think
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: it's worth and nonetheless maybe just just elaborating or something,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: which is you know, I grew up in in South Africa,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and but my morality was informed by America. I read
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: comic books, you know, I played dungeons and Dragons and.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And I watched American TV shows and.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Like it seemed like America cared about being the good guys,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: you know, about doing the right thing and yeah, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that's actually pretty unusual, by the way.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like in the world, it's very unusual.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like actual countries don't do that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: No, they don't know.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, yeah, you know, you want
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to be this good that you want to be on
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the side of good, you want to care about what's right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: and and.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so that's that's uh, yeah, what I believe in.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So I gave you, I gave you a tough one
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: at the end.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I yeah, so yeah, that's great.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: That's great. Elon Musk, all right, thank you, thank you
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: so much.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: All right,