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Reaction to Kelce Brothers’ comments on NFL International Games, Matthew Stafford’s Contract, Daniel Jones at OTAs + NFL Offseason Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? How are
0:17
Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff three and out podcast. Hopefully everyone
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Speaker 1: is doing well, enjoying life. And today I saw Jason
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Speaker 1: Kelsey had I thought he had some good takes on
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Speaker 1: the power of football on Sunday and are we getting
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Speaker 1: away from it? Some quarterback news, Stafford's contract, Daniel Jones
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Speaker 1: back on the field, the big ten uh one, twenty
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Speaker 1: four teams, the SEC is not really feeling that type
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Speaker 1: playoff expansion. And then we'll do some mailbag as well
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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing
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Speaker 1: Lined up a couple guests for next week. Well they'll
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Speaker 1: probably in a couple of weeks, but a couple of
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Speaker 1: big names in the NFL. You boys been working the phones,
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Speaker 1: been grinding, playing a little daddy daycare, firing off texts
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Speaker 1: and emails, just trying to trying to keep this podcast
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Speaker 1: going for the people. But again the mail bag at
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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, We're gonna need mailbag questions over the course
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Speaker 1: of the summer, so fire in there as things I
1:23
Speaker 1: don't want to say come to a screeching halt, but
1:24
Speaker 1: we only got a couple more weeks till the entire
1:26
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Speaker 1: So let's just dive into the show. We've talked a
1:51
Speaker 1: lot about the international slate, which just impacts the timing
1:55
Speaker 1: of a game. All those games except the old week
2:00
Speaker 1: when they go to Australia have been on Sunday that
2:03
Speaker 1: they have been on Sunday morning, so it has not
2:05
Speaker 1: impacted Sunday, though it has impacted you know, afternoon midday
2:11
Speaker 1: games and change the flow of the day on Sunday.
2:15
Speaker 1: And I think one thing football has had going for
2:17
Speaker 1: it in a day and age where our attention has
2:20
Speaker 1: were no longer bored. You know, I grew up in
2:22
Speaker 1: an era before the Internet. Boredom was a huge part
2:25
Speaker 1: of my childhood. I fight it right now. Sometimes I
2:29
Speaker 1: used to take my earphones and leave my phone outside
2:33
Speaker 1: when I sat in the sauna after I worked out.
2:35
Speaker 1: It's like, can you just sit in your own thoughts?
2:37
Speaker 1: Isn't it okay just to sit there in your own thoughts?
2:41
Speaker 1: Think about when you get in your car. I remember
2:43
Speaker 1: being a kid, even when I started driving, like sixteen seventeen,
2:47
Speaker 1: if you whatever was on the radio or the CD
2:49
Speaker 1: you had, like that's what you were listening to. You
2:52
Speaker 1: didn't have options to stream something, to listen to the
2:54
Speaker 1: exact song you wanted to if you did not have
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Speaker 1: the cassette or the CD. You know, times have changed dramatically.
3:01
Speaker 1: We have access to everything we want, whenever we want.
3:04
Speaker 1: And one thing football gives us that Baseball. They play
3:07
Speaker 1: every day. Giants lost again today, don't play again tomorrow.
3:11
Speaker 1: Yankees play today, Probably play tomorrow. Probably we'll play the
3:14
Speaker 1: next day. You play every day, So it does feel
3:17
Speaker 1: less meaningful to like I missed the game. Who cares? Obviously?
3:20
Speaker 1: Basketball a ton of games. Hell, the playoffs go for months. Right,
3:24
Speaker 1: Football one game scenario once a week, and it's a
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Speaker 1: really big deal. I was listening to Kyle Shanahan talk
3:30
Speaker 1: about it the other day. Like Steve Kerr was once
3:34
Speaker 1: told he was like laying in bed and he was
3:38
Speaker 1: tossing and turning and he was just staring at the
3:40
Speaker 1: ceiling and his wife looked over at him and it
3:42
Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing. He's like, I can't
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Speaker 1: believe I made this play call. They had just played
3:48
Speaker 1: the Kings the night before, and his wife goes, it's November.
3:52
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you're right, who cares? This doesn't matter football.
3:55
Speaker 1: You can't think about that. Losing game September is no
3:58
Speaker 1: different losing game in December. They all matter. Now. You
4:00
Speaker 1: could argue they matter a little bit less now that
4:02
Speaker 1: they keep expanding the season, but you just can't lose games,
4:06
Speaker 1: like if you want to make the playoffs to win
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Speaker 1: the division. They all matter and we understand that as
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Speaker 1: a consumer. And I think Sunday used to be a
4:16
Speaker 1: really big deal. And I thought Jason Kelsey hit on
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Speaker 1: something that I think resonates with a lot of people
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Speaker 1: and it's got a little bit of a feel that
4:22
Speaker 1: I fall under of, like what happened to the game?
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Speaker 1: I love? And he said that Sunday is the day
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Speaker 1: for football outside of going to church in the morning.
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Speaker 1: If you're still religious and you do that. Sunday is
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Speaker 1: like where you So many games happen, and that's what
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Speaker 1: you grow up on and you gear your entire week
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Speaker 1: around watching football on Sunday. It's an institution. At this point,
4:46
Speaker 1: the NFL plays games on Sunday. With every day that
4:51
Speaker 1: we keep adding in there, We're getting away from that
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Speaker 1: just a little bit. I think the game got so big.
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Speaker 1: One of the reasons it got so pops and big
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Speaker 1: was because it was an event. Sunday is the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and everyone set their weak apart to tune into those
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Speaker 1: games and what was happening on Sunday. I worry that
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Speaker 1: we're getting away from that just a little bit. Building
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Speaker 1: too many of this speaking to all the different Thursday
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Speaker 1: Friday international games that don't fall on Sundays, and I understand,
5:26
Speaker 1: and I've always been a proponent. I'm probably of anyone
5:29
Speaker 1: that is in a quote unquote media space or definitely
5:32
Speaker 1: talks about sports like I'm on the extreme end of
5:35
Speaker 1: being pro business, pro capitalism, celebrate growth, totally understand you're
5:40
Speaker 1: either growing or dying. You always got it, you'd never
5:43
Speaker 1: go well, we just we made X this year. Let's
5:45
Speaker 1: just make that for the next ten years. No one
5:46
Speaker 1: thinks like that, and you always people call it greedy.
5:50
Speaker 1: Some people just call it evolving and growing as a business,
5:53
Speaker 1: which I understand. And I think the NFL is in
5:56
Speaker 1: this weird spot with these games that literally the streamers want,
6:01
Speaker 1: Netflix being one of them on Christmas, which doesn't just work.
6:05
Speaker 1: It's a major success Amazon Prime. Black Friday fucking was awesome.
6:11
Speaker 1: I am not against this, but I think the more
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Speaker 1: and more you take away from it, we've been talking
6:17
Speaker 1: about the games on Sunday Sunday ticket Scott Hansen. There
6:22
Speaker 1: are gonna be weeks and there already have been weeks
6:25
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years that are just atrocious,
6:27
Speaker 1: that are just not good. Now, I do this for
6:30
Speaker 1: a living. I love football, like I'm gonna watch, but
6:33
Speaker 1: you're flipping around, You're like, these are just bad matchups
6:36
Speaker 1: and you could have weeks where it's like all these
6:38
Speaker 1: games just kind of suck. And I think about when
6:41
Speaker 1: I was a kid, like going to the movie was
6:42
Speaker 1: a really big deal. We had to go to the
6:45
Speaker 1: movie because we were bored and there wasn't much else
6:47
Speaker 1: to do. You also, if they put something in the
6:50
Speaker 1: movie theater. You didn't have access to it anyway. Any
6:53
Speaker 1: other way. You had to wait then when it left
6:55
Speaker 1: the movie theater for whatever a period of time for
6:57
Speaker 1: it to make your local video store for you to
6:59
Speaker 1: be able to rent it. I forget that time period.
7:02
Speaker 1: But it didn't once it left the movie theater. It
7:03
Speaker 1: didn't just go to Blockbuster. You had to wait. We
7:06
Speaker 1: actually had Video City, which was closer to my house.
7:09
Speaker 1: They had a little porn section in the back. We
7:10
Speaker 1: were always like peaking who was going back there. It's
7:12
Speaker 1: always some older creep guy wild times, but that actually existed.
7:17
Speaker 1: And now it's like, I've been to a movie in
7:19
Speaker 1: like six or seven years. Why would I go. I
7:22
Speaker 1: have access to all the movies on all my streaming
7:25
Speaker 1: platforms now, some of them that aren't quote unquote rent
7:28
Speaker 1: ready you gotta buy. But if I really wanted to
7:30
Speaker 1: watch it, I could. I have a ninety inch TV
7:33
Speaker 1: withst a round sound. I have a couch. Well, back
7:36
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, we had like a forty
7:38
Speaker 1: inch TV. They got five channels, so as options changed,
7:42
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do something that was a staple
7:45
Speaker 1: in this country. And if you just think about it
7:48
Speaker 1: from the access that we get to sports. It's never
7:53
Speaker 1: been easier to watch literally everything. If I wanted to
7:55
Speaker 1: watch every game in every sport and every big event,
7:59
Speaker 1: it touch of a button. It doesn't get any Now.
8:03
Speaker 1: I might have to pay for specific things that aren't
8:05
Speaker 1: necessarily free, but that don't come on my YouTube TV
8:09
Speaker 1: or my Amazon Prime or whatever, but I can find it,
8:13
Speaker 1: and I can find it pretty easily. That used to
8:15
Speaker 1: not be the case, and I think that has numbed
8:19
Speaker 1: us down in some of the other sports. And the
8:21
Speaker 1: one thing football still has is you only get one
8:23
Speaker 1: a week. Well now it feels like there's games on constantly,
8:27
Speaker 1: and you just have to wonder if the law of
8:30
Speaker 1: diminishing returns, if it will ever impact our viewing habits.
8:34
Speaker 1: Maybe it won't. Obviously, we love to gamble on football.
8:37
Speaker 1: We've gambled on football well before I was alive, and
8:41
Speaker 1: we will continue to gamble on football. It is enjoyable
8:44
Speaker 1: now with Fantasy with player props. There are a lot
8:47
Speaker 1: of different other elements that have been added in that
8:49
Speaker 1: make random games on Monday night or Thursday night, if
8:53
Speaker 1: they're not the greatest matchup, still very interesting and still
8:55
Speaker 1: drawing ten to fifteen to twenty million people to watch.
8:59
Speaker 1: But I do of agree with what he said. Is
9:02
Speaker 1: when I was at Fresno State the Mountain West, they
9:06
Speaker 1: weren't in the Mountain West at the time. It was
9:07
Speaker 1: the Whack. That's where Boise played, That's where San Jose
9:11
Speaker 1: State played, New Mexico played, and we did a deal.
9:16
Speaker 1: I mean, the deal was done before I got there
9:18
Speaker 1: with ESPN to play Friday night games. And part of
9:21
Speaker 1: the reason they did that is because you could just
9:23
Speaker 1: get lost in the shuffle on a Saturday, like probably
9:26
Speaker 1: no one's gonna watch Boise play New Mexico when UCLA
9:30
Speaker 1: is playing Oregon and Bama is playing Georgia and Ohio
9:34
Speaker 1: State is playing Iowa, so you kind of got to
9:36
Speaker 1: stand out. Well, Now, do you notice in college football
9:39
Speaker 1: games Thursdays their game Fridays, there's you know, the what's
9:44
Speaker 1: it called the MAC they play on like Wednesdays and Tuesdays.
9:47
Speaker 1: They do that to try to get seen and it
9:49
Speaker 1: doesn't quite feel as important, but you get to see
9:52
Speaker 1: those teams play because they're playing on a day up
9:55
Speaker 1: against nobody else. You know, It's why listen, I love
9:59
Speaker 1: Golf's we talk about in golf, Like, how can you
10:02
Speaker 1: find events that don't go up against football that in
10:05
Speaker 1: the summer go on primetime play on the West Coast.
10:08
Speaker 1: Waste management in my backyard loves to play during super
10:12
Speaker 1: Bowl Week. I personally would say I would move it
10:15
Speaker 1: the following week where you don't go up against super Bowl,
10:18
Speaker 1: like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, where you don't have to
10:21
Speaker 1: start or finish on Sunday before the Super Bowl. You
10:24
Speaker 1: get your own week when nothing's really going on. You'll
10:27
Speaker 1: be going up against like you know, Tea, Wolves, Spurs,
10:31
Speaker 1: and really most of their games are at night. You
10:33
Speaker 1: played during the day. So I understand it, and I
10:38
Speaker 1: have not pushed back against like the fact of like
10:42
Speaker 1: you can't do this, But I think there is some
10:45
Speaker 1: truth to what he's saying. Sunday used to really matter
10:49
Speaker 1: when I was a kid getting up knowing the forty
10:51
Speaker 1: nine ers were playing the Eagles, We're playing the Cardinals,
10:55
Speaker 1: We're playing the Cowboys or whatever, Steve Young, Jerry Rice,
10:59
Speaker 1: We're gonna fucking play one if they weren't playing on
11:02
Speaker 1: Monday Night football Sunday. And that's just not the case anymore.
11:06
Speaker 1: Teams are all over the map, and this is gonna
11:08
Speaker 1: be a very very good Obviously, when Mark Cubans say
11:11
Speaker 1: pigs get fed, uh, hogs gets slaughtered years ago, he
11:14
Speaker 1: was wrong. Football exploded since that, Mark. I think we're
11:18
Speaker 1: now at another pivot point, like as they do this
11:21
Speaker 1: crazy expansion and put all these games in different places.
11:24
Speaker 1: Is there ever a tipping point where people go not
11:27
Speaker 1: as much? I don't see that anytime in the near future,
11:30
Speaker 1: but there is no disputing that Sunday doesn't quite feel
11:34
Speaker 1: as powerful as it once did. Speaking of quarterbacks and football,
11:40
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, you know, it's weird. It's contract. He's like
11:43
Speaker 1: not a free agent, but he's always like could retire
11:45
Speaker 1: and they have to keep giving him raises, and they
11:47
Speaker 1: just gave him. You know, he's gonna make fifty five
11:49
Speaker 1: million dollars. You could argue, like, you know, Peyton Manning
11:53
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady were incredible acquisitions for Lway and the
11:56
Speaker 1: Broncos and Jason Light and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but
11:59
Speaker 1: they really got those guys for like two or three years, right.
12:03
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was good for three years. The fourth year
12:05
Speaker 1: they won a Super Bowl, but his arm didn't work.
12:07
Speaker 1: You know, Tom by his last year, you know, kind
12:09
Speaker 1: of retired. Then he realized Gazelle was probably going with
12:12
Speaker 1: the jiu jitsu instructors, so he's like, fuck it, I'm
12:14
Speaker 1: coming back. And it didn't go that well. I think
12:16
Speaker 1: they went eight to nine. They still made the playoffs,
12:18
Speaker 1: but it was he's forty five years old. Even if
12:21
Speaker 1: you think about Aaron Rodgers, who had won the MVPs,
12:23
Speaker 1: who like finally wanted out of Green Bay, like that
12:26
Speaker 1: did not work for the Jets got their tears achilles
12:28
Speaker 1: three or four plays into Monday Night Football, which was
12:31
Speaker 1: still one of the most jaw dropping moments of this
12:35
Speaker 1: century when it comes to football. He runs out the
12:38
Speaker 1: American flag. Six plays later, he's laying there on the
12:41
Speaker 1: ground and it's clear like this is a nightmare. And
12:44
Speaker 1: he was just coming off playing some of the best
12:45
Speaker 1: football of his career. When they traded for Stafford, they
12:51
Speaker 1: are basically getting him for seven eight years of his career,
12:54
Speaker 1: like the Brady Peyton Manning version when they first got
12:59
Speaker 1: to their new teams. Now he's winning MVPs, but he's
13:02
Speaker 1: played at a really high level for years. They've already
13:04
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. They're going to be one of
13:07
Speaker 1: if not the main pick by most people to get
13:10
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl this year, and it just couldn't
13:13
Speaker 1: have gone much better. Like, you're gonna look back when
13:16
Speaker 1: you traded for this guy, you could argue, you know
13:19
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the NFL that go on
13:23
Speaker 1: to a different team in their thirties. It doesn't often
13:26
Speaker 1: go that well, especially at other positions, right because most guys,
13:29
Speaker 1: if you're playing guard, if you're playing linebacker, you're not
13:32
Speaker 1: gonna be thriving at thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight
13:35
Speaker 1: years old. It's very very rare. It happens a lot
13:37
Speaker 1: of quarterback. But they got this guy like he wasn't
13:40
Speaker 1: quite thirty five, what they get him at thirty two
13:42
Speaker 1: thirty three years old, and they're gonna look back and
13:45
Speaker 1: they're gonna get eight plus years because my guess is,
13:47
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get injured this year, there aren't many
13:50
Speaker 1: gigs paying fifty five million dollars, he'll play again next year.
13:53
Speaker 1: It's gone pretty well. It's one of the all time
13:57
Speaker 1: great Like, yeah, just win win trade, like the line,
14:00
Speaker 1: do not regret making that trade, getting the draft capital,
14:03
Speaker 1: getting Jared Goffin, getting their organization going in the right
14:06
Speaker 1: way and it'll probably go down. I don't have Ram's
14:10
Speaker 1: history in the back of my mind. I mean they
14:12
Speaker 1: once traded for Marshall Faulk that that one went pretty well.
14:15
Speaker 1: But this is an all timer, you know, this is
14:18
Speaker 1: one of those the coach loves them. He loves the
14:20
Speaker 1: coach great with the offense. Has really Rogers got like
14:24
Speaker 1: this those last couple of years on the floor where
14:27
Speaker 1: he was still physically really good and mentally he was
14:31
Speaker 1: just on the Manning Brady level. So once you've conquered
14:34
Speaker 1: football from a metal standpoint and you still have your
14:37
Speaker 1: physical characteristics, it's never been easier to play. And now
14:42
Speaker 1: for you as an individual, and now because of the rules,
14:46
Speaker 1: like you're pretty safe back there, Like this isn't nineteen
14:48
Speaker 1: eighty seven. You're not playing the Bears or the Giants,
14:51
Speaker 1: and they're looking to fucking end your life. Even if
14:54
Speaker 1: they are, and they talk about that in the locker room,
14:56
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to because they will get a flag
14:57
Speaker 1: thrown on them. So I think this Ram Stafford thing,
15:01
Speaker 1: I know, there's the Ty Simpson draft pick. To me
15:04
Speaker 1: is still one of the crazier ones. They might have
15:08
Speaker 1: this guy for several more years. The other one that
15:10
Speaker 1: I saw today is the Daniel Jones who looks like
15:14
Speaker 1: he's coming back from this injury. It just like Adrian
15:17
Speaker 1: Peterson level speed. He better because his agents and the
15:23
Speaker 1: people managing his contracts are great at their job. There
15:27
Speaker 1: is just no disputing that they're just elite at doing
15:31
Speaker 1: what they do. And they got him a lot of
15:34
Speaker 1: money forty plus million dollars a year for a guy
15:36
Speaker 1: coming off major injuries who really doesn't have much to
15:38
Speaker 1: show beside a stretch with the Colts and over the
15:41
Speaker 1: course of his career, like I don't know, half a
15:44
Speaker 1: season in New York where you really went, Yeah, it
15:46
Speaker 1: was good because even if you look at the year
15:47
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs with day Ball, it's like his
15:49
Speaker 1: numbers don't exactly jump off the page. I would say
15:54
Speaker 1: these next two years, Chris Ballard and Shane Sikin's career
16:00
Speaker 1: in terms of Indianapolis or tied to this guy. If
16:04
Speaker 1: he is a they don't even need to win the division,
16:07
Speaker 1: they don't need to win a Super Bowl. If they
16:09
Speaker 1: can just make a wild card game this year, those
16:11
Speaker 1: guys will get extensions. But if what happened last year
16:15
Speaker 1: in some form or fashion, where it's like the season ends,
16:19
Speaker 1: they ain't in the dance and they're so well, this
16:21
Speaker 1: guy got injured, this guy starts slipping. We just lost
16:24
Speaker 1: four straight. I think there's just it just has to happen,
16:28
Speaker 1: and all the pressure is on a guy who's never
16:31
Speaker 1: really had success. That's the thing. It's like, Wow, you
16:33
Speaker 1: had the eight games or ten games last Okay, great.
16:37
Speaker 1: I remember when Andy traded for Alex Smith. It would
16:40
Speaker 1: have been a very risky deal if Alex hadn't just
16:43
Speaker 1: come off a ton of success for Jim Harbaugh, first
16:46
Speaker 1: year starting Boom NFC champiship game as the starting quarterback.
16:49
Speaker 1: Second year, he's playing the best football of his career.
16:52
Speaker 1: He just gets a concussion. Kaepernick comes in and lights
16:54
Speaker 1: the world on fire. But it was clear he had
16:56
Speaker 1: like a year and a half of playing playoff level
16:58
Speaker 1: football for one of the best the league. It's like, Okay,
17:01
Speaker 1: we can take a shot on this guy, and they
17:03
Speaker 1: traded for him. I'm pretty sure they gave him a
17:04
Speaker 1: contract attention immediately. This one, to me, it's like, I
17:08
Speaker 1: know they love him and they talk about him a
17:10
Speaker 1: lot like the Raiders talk about Fernando. It's a lot
17:13
Speaker 1: of the person, the intangibles, the study, habits, it hardy works,
17:16
Speaker 1: and that matters a lot. That matters a shitload in
17:20
Speaker 1: football quarterback. That doesn't matter as much at guard, doesn't
17:24
Speaker 1: matter as much at receiver. It's everything with football. And
17:30
Speaker 1: I've never disputed because my comp forum was always Alex Smith.
17:34
Speaker 1: But like Alex, he has just shown a lot more
17:36
Speaker 1: to different people at different times than this guy. So
17:39
Speaker 1: I've always supported Chris Ballard. I think he's pretty good
17:42
Speaker 1: at his job. I always enjoy watching him talk. I
17:45
Speaker 1: enjoy the players he picks. But like when Kenny Atkinson
17:49
Speaker 1: the other day went viral for saying, like, yeah, the
17:51
Speaker 1: stats show that we should be up two to one,
17:54
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, that's the reason why so many people
17:58
Speaker 1: in the sport, whether it's basketball, baseball, football, always pushed
18:03
Speaker 1: back against the nerds. You not only can you not
18:07
Speaker 1: say that, you definitely can't say that publicly because everyone
18:11
Speaker 1: just thinks you're a fucking idiot and it's kind of
18:14
Speaker 1: loser talk. And I think there's something with Daniel Jones
18:18
Speaker 1: of like, well, it's like, well, what you know, It's
18:21
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Speaker 1: a couple more things. The Big Ten. Tony Pettiti, who
20:41
Speaker 1: I was actually on his Wikipedia page the other day.
20:43
Speaker 1: He's the commissioner of the Big Ten. He his career
20:48
Speaker 1: started in the media business working at CBS. Then he
20:51
Speaker 1: got to Major League Baseball, and let's face it, he
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Speaker 1: was hired by the Big ten because where the money
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Speaker 1: is made now is in television. So understanding that world
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Speaker 1: in doing those deals is how you generate the revenue.
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Speaker 1: The PGA Tour hired Brian Rolapp Roger Goodell's number two,
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Speaker 1: not because he loved golf, he didn't even plays, because
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Speaker 1: he was in charge of Thursday night football. He was
21:14
Speaker 1: one of the driving forces of that idea, Like this
21:16
Speaker 1: guy does TV, this guy knows how to generate revenue.
21:19
Speaker 1: To fucking hire this guy built. You figure out the
21:21
Speaker 1: business side because that is the business television. And I
21:27
Speaker 1: think there is an element to a lot of people,
21:29
Speaker 1: not the coaches like I think Dabo Sweeney, Kirby Smart,
21:33
Speaker 1: Dan lann and Kenny Dillingham sark Oh they love football,
21:37
Speaker 1: and I do believe because all of them when they
21:40
Speaker 1: first got involved in football, they were not making much money.
21:43
Speaker 1: They definitely couldn't have dreamed if you would have told
21:45
Speaker 1: them at twenty five or twenty three, whenever they first
21:48
Speaker 1: started coaching that one day you'd be making this, they
21:50
Speaker 1: wouldn't have believed you. I do feel pretty confident about that.
21:54
Speaker 1: They are in it for the ball, for a coaching,
21:58
Speaker 1: the practices, the building, the team recruiting, Like all the
22:01
Speaker 1: guys they listen Ryan Day, they fucking like to recruit
22:04
Speaker 1: that they like all that's lame, Like it's a huge
22:08
Speaker 1: part of what makes them that. And I think these
22:11
Speaker 1: commissioners come in like they don't give a shit about football.
22:16
Speaker 1: They are just doing anything humanly possible to make the
22:19
Speaker 1: most money possible, which honestly is their job title, right,
22:23
Speaker 1: that's their gig as the commissioner. But I think often
22:26
Speaker 1: their sites don't align with the coaches because I saw
22:29
Speaker 1: all these big ten guys going, yeah, twenty four teams,
22:31
Speaker 1: twenty do I truly believe. I sat down with Curt
22:34
Speaker 1: Signetti and Ryan Day. They think twenty four teams should
22:36
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. They think Minnesota should have a
22:40
Speaker 1: fighting chant. What are we talking about? And so it's
22:43
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see the SEC has some meetings
22:45
Speaker 1: this week. What was gonna come out of there? And
22:47
Speaker 1: Sankie said, today, yeah, we think six teams, sixteen teams
22:50
Speaker 1: the number now me personally, like, I'm fine with twelve
22:55
Speaker 1: and the way it's set up with some of these
22:56
Speaker 1: non power four teams, you could argue twelve too much.
23:00
Speaker 1: I'd be good with eight, but if it's inevitable, like
23:03
Speaker 1: I'll get behind it. I do think that twenty four
23:06
Speaker 1: teams absurd. And you know, I saw Sarco on this range, like,
23:10
Speaker 1: I don't care four teams, eight teams, sixteen teams. I'm
23:13
Speaker 1: cool with any of it, but not everyone's path to
23:16
Speaker 1: that number is the same. And that's true. And that's
23:20
Speaker 1: why in the NFL you might have a We've been
23:24
Speaker 1: talking a lot about this an easier schedule in a
23:26
Speaker 1: given year, but it's always rotating. So it's like, oh,
23:28
Speaker 1: one year you drew these divisions, they were down, Okay,
23:32
Speaker 1: it was easier. Like the NFC West, they had easier
23:36
Speaker 1: schedules last year. It's why the Rams, Seattle, and the
23:39
Speaker 1: Niners all won a bunch of games because they were
23:41
Speaker 1: beating up on divisions that the NFC South where uh
23:45
Speaker 1: pretty sure the winner went eight and nine. It doesn't
23:47
Speaker 1: mean those teams can't beat you, but on a given year, well,
23:50
Speaker 1: this year they get the AFC West a little harder draw, right,
23:54
Speaker 1: So I am a proponent of just keeping it at twelve. Clearly,
24:00
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be the b where it stays. And
24:04
Speaker 1: a huge reason for this is when you make the playoffs,
24:08
Speaker 1: it's no different the NCAA tournament. You make money as
24:11
Speaker 1: a program and as a conference. And those two conferences
24:15
Speaker 1: know we're gonna get more teams in every year because
24:19
Speaker 1: we're playing each other in our strength of schedules, because
24:21
Speaker 1: we're all under the umbrella our of our individual conferences
24:26
Speaker 1: are going to prop us up over the Texas Tech
24:29
Speaker 1: and the Big twelve. This conference isn't very good, like
24:32
Speaker 1: Texas Tech is praying that Arizona State and BYU are
24:36
Speaker 1: excellent and maybe one other team because like Okay, Iowa
24:39
Speaker 1: State this year's top twenty twenty five team as well.
24:41
Speaker 1: Then it's okay, we're playing all those teams on this
24:43
Speaker 1: given year weekend. If we win them, we have a
24:46
Speaker 1: fantastic strength to schedule. But that's not always going to
24:48
Speaker 1: be the case. That's Notre Dame's problem, right. Notre Dame
24:52
Speaker 1: in a unique category because clearly they're building high level
24:55
Speaker 1: rosters that are worthy of being a top five to
24:57
Speaker 1: six program, but because of the they have to schedule
25:00
Speaker 1: so far out, sometimes the programs they draw in North Carolina,
25:03
Speaker 1: Michigan State, who might have been good years ago or
25:05
Speaker 1: not good now, and so it doesn't look great. And
25:08
Speaker 1: if they do drop the game against the good team Miami,
25:11
Speaker 1: all the other wins feel a little hollow, even if
25:13
Speaker 1: we all can agree they're clearly good. And I think
25:16
Speaker 1: the problem is you have so many people that all
25:19
Speaker 1: they give a shit about is money. Truly, like in football,
25:24
Speaker 1: the owners, I think a lot of these guys are
25:26
Speaker 1: so rich now it's like a lot of these guys
25:28
Speaker 1: are just trying to win, right. The Denver Broncos ownership
25:33
Speaker 1: is filthy, fucking rich. Sean, what do you need? You
25:36
Speaker 1: need more money, you need more resources? This guy in
25:39
Speaker 1: an extension, you want to know what do you need?
25:42
Speaker 1: We're in these conferences. They're always kind of not necessarily
25:46
Speaker 1: out for the right things. And that's where I feel
25:49
Speaker 1: for the coaches who kind of get kind of put
25:52
Speaker 1: in this tough spot no different than the SEC. It's
25:55
Speaker 1: like all they want is just a fair and a
25:58
Speaker 1: normal format. I saw a headline that Oregon just signed
26:02
Speaker 1: a home game with Coastal Carolina in twenty twenty seven.
26:06
Speaker 1: My first reaction is that fucking blows who wants to
26:09
Speaker 1: watch that. Why can't we get to a spay? And
26:12
Speaker 1: I don't even blame Oregon. My point is this sport
26:16
Speaker 1: is so out of whack. I had a good buddy
26:18
Speaker 1: tell me that he does a lot of work in college.
26:22
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, I've become so tired. It's
26:24
Speaker 1: become so exhausting of the conversations. Right, It's like we
26:29
Speaker 1: do this all the time, argue what the SEC or
26:33
Speaker 1: the Big Ten? We never that'd be like, what's what
26:36
Speaker 1: mid tier team is better? It's like we never argue
26:39
Speaker 1: like who's better the Bengals are the Saints. It's like
26:42
Speaker 1: no one gives a fuck. If they're good, they'll be
26:44
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and we'll find out. If they're not,
26:46
Speaker 1: we'll move on. You know. It's like who's better this year?
26:49
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys or the you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Like,
26:53
Speaker 1: well do they play? How many games they win? We
26:57
Speaker 1: spend so much times like what about the second tier
26:59
Speaker 1: of the SEC against the Big ten? It's like the conversation,
27:03
Speaker 1: can we just get some uniformity? And it feels like
27:06
Speaker 1: we aren't even close to that, because that the power
27:09
Speaker 1: of the NFL. They're all rowing in the same direction.
27:12
Speaker 1: Whether you're Mike Brown, or whether you're Jerry Jones, or
27:14
Speaker 1: whether you're the Cronkey family, or whether you're you know,
27:16
Speaker 1: whoever buys Seattle. Everyone's in it together. Right We're in
27:20
Speaker 1: college football. It's not even close to the point right now,
27:24
Speaker 1: you got the ACC is doing this, the SEC is
27:27
Speaker 1: thinking this, the Big Ten thinks they're the most important,
27:30
Speaker 1: and it's just all out of whack and it kind
27:32
Speaker 1: of makes me sad. And just these games can't get
27:34
Speaker 1: here soon enough. Well, at least the good games and
27:37
Speaker 1: then the conference games, because all the non conference games,
27:40
Speaker 1: for the most part, fucking blow. And until we figure
27:44
Speaker 1: any of this out, it it's just become exhausting. Before
27:49
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27:57
Speaker 1: George Kittle, who is still in the Niners. He didn't
28:02
Speaker 1: change teams, but the forty nine ers are going to
28:05
Speaker 1: change continents, definitely change time zones when they fly to Australia.
28:09
Speaker 1: And like Daniel Jones, he towards Achilles now, he tores
28:12
Speaker 1: Achilles way later right in the playoff game against the
28:17
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and he said, my goal is to be
28:22
Speaker 1: there for week one. The problem is as a fifteen
28:26
Speaker 1: hour flight in a game like four days before a
28:28
Speaker 1: normal opening day, that might make it a little bit difficult. Sure,
28:33
Speaker 1: but who doesn't like a challenge. So no, I've got
28:35
Speaker 1: a chance. Like I said, just got to keep my
28:38
Speaker 1: head down and keep working. One thing about this Australia game,
28:43
Speaker 1: which is kind of underrated, is some people that get injured,
28:47
Speaker 1: as it's inevitable, especially for the forty nine ers, but
28:50
Speaker 1: same with the Rams in training camp that typically if
28:54
Speaker 1: the Rams were just hosting this game at home, probably
28:56
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28:59
Speaker 1: this plane flight, and because they're going to be in
29:01
Speaker 1: a foreign land where you know the setup for the rehab,
29:05
Speaker 1: they might not be as comfortable they are going to
29:07
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29:11
Speaker 1: international games that a guy typically that might have traveled
29:14
Speaker 1: to a team, if you're going on an hour or
29:16
Speaker 1: two hour flight, or definitely had a home game and
29:19
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29:22
Speaker 1: caution and not risk the long flight. That obviously impacts
29:26
Speaker 1: the ability to do rehab on major injuries. So this
29:31
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29:35
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29:37
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29:41
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29:44
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29:47
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31:46
Speaker 1: if you could own an NFL team, which one would
31:49
Speaker 1: it be? The only stipulation you would have to live
31:53
Speaker 1: in that city. Also, what GM and coach would you want?
31:58
Speaker 1: I take the Dolphins. I've seen the show Ballers. It's
32:02
Speaker 1: a great question. Uh, I love where I live, and
32:06
Speaker 1: if I owned an NFL team, I would have I
32:09
Speaker 1: would live a couple of blocks up the road and
32:11
Speaker 1: be in a much bigger home and fucking be living
32:13
Speaker 1: like a king here in Scottsdale. The problem is is
32:17
Speaker 1: owning the Cardinals, for example, is I'm in a division
32:21
Speaker 1: with one of the biggest brands in the league in
32:24
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. The Rams ownership just the guy's
32:29
Speaker 1: just gonna have more money than me. Kronky's rich and
32:31
Speaker 1: his wife's you know, their Walmart. So we'll have to
32:34
Speaker 1: see who buys Seattle. It's just not a great setup.
32:38
Speaker 1: I'd be fighting somewhat of an uphill battle. Uh So
32:42
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, I think Dallas Cowboy would
32:45
Speaker 1: be a pretty big deal. Might be a little too
32:48
Speaker 1: much for me though, like I'm not even though I
32:50
Speaker 1: do this for a living, Like I kind of like
32:52
Speaker 1: to fly under the radar a little bit. So I'd
32:54
Speaker 1: probably and the Dolphins a little too flashy. Not a
32:58
Speaker 1: Northeast guy. Even though the New York teams, Philly, Washington,
33:01
Speaker 1: I mean those would be incredible because the fan bases
33:03
Speaker 1: are big. This is too cold Nashville, I mean it
33:07
Speaker 1: gets cold in Tennessee. There's no disputing that in the winter.
33:09
Speaker 1: But I'd probably go something like that, like the Houston Texans.
33:16
Speaker 1: I have to think along and hard about that coach GM.
33:24
Speaker 1: That would be something where I would be like reaching
33:26
Speaker 1: out to the Howiees and John Schneider's and being like,
33:30
Speaker 1: what do you make I'll triple it. That would be
33:33
Speaker 1: my point of difference. We would pay so much for
33:36
Speaker 1: a GM and a coach. I would just have access
33:39
Speaker 1: to the big boys. I'd be like, when's your contract over,
33:42
Speaker 1: don't sign an extension. I will make it so you
33:44
Speaker 1: don't want to leave, or I mean you don't want
33:47
Speaker 1: to stay. I will you think you're rich now, I'll
33:50
Speaker 1: make you really fucking rich. The whole goal would be
33:54
Speaker 1: to land top GM, top coach. That would be the
33:57
Speaker 1: entire goal. I would do the Houston Texans thing where
34:00
Speaker 1: we would just hire who do you hire? And we
34:03
Speaker 1: would just be one and done, Like how much you
34:06
Speaker 1: you hired? David Kelly? Personally, David Kelly was always awesome
34:09
Speaker 1: to me, so I hate but when he got hired,
34:13
Speaker 1: were like, well you hired who was like okay, David,
34:15
Speaker 1: what are you making? Five hundred grand? You're gonna be
34:16
Speaker 1: my coach and give you two year deal. I'll pay
34:18
Speaker 1: you two years three million dollars. You know you gotta
34:21
Speaker 1: be that coach and make way more money than you're making.
34:25
Speaker 1: So I would just do everything humanly possible to get
34:27
Speaker 1: one of the top coaches in GMS, and I would
34:30
Speaker 1: just kind of rotate through. Since debate helps fuel sports
34:37
Speaker 1: television and discussion, it's hard to tell someon what someone's
34:42
Speaker 1: actual opinion is versus what they view as bait. What
34:46
Speaker 1: are some discussions that you think are silly to argue about?
34:50
Speaker 1: For me, I'd say putting anyone against Gretzky and hockey,
34:53
Speaker 1: Serena Williams and tennis, and Brady and football. I think
34:57
Speaker 1: it's crazy that anyone could even throw someone's name in
34:59
Speaker 1: the same sentence as those three. I mean, most people
35:03
Speaker 1: have Montana Mahomes two and three, and you would have
35:05
Speaker 1: to combine both of their Hall of Fame careers to
35:08
Speaker 1: match or exceed Tom's accomplishments. I think the nice thing
35:15
Speaker 1: what we do here is like, it's not that's not
35:18
Speaker 1: the business I'm in, So I haven't had to get
35:21
Speaker 1: too deep in like the click baity stuff. I mean
35:25
Speaker 1: I have opinions sometimes that people go, oh, you're just
35:27
Speaker 1: saying that for clicks, Like, I don't even think I've
35:29
Speaker 1: ever made a money off click. You know, I don't
35:31
Speaker 1: even know what you're talking about. Sometimes they have opinions
35:34
Speaker 1: that it might be a little off the wall. I mean,
35:36
Speaker 1: I'm fucking nuts. Sometimes I think about things that was like, yeah,
35:39
Speaker 1: that's what I believe. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong.
35:42
Speaker 1: I mean, welcome to life. I think it's very, very
35:46
Speaker 1: hard to argue like Michael Jordan's the best athlete I've
35:50
Speaker 1: ever seen. Michael Jordan is the best athlete I've ever seen.
35:54
Speaker 1: He's clearly the best basketball player. But his career in
35:58
Speaker 1: terms of he's won more championships. But Bron's going like
36:00
Speaker 1: your twenty, like fifty years in the NBA. He's gonna
36:04
Speaker 1: have like a twenty five year NBA career, Like Tiger
36:06
Speaker 1: Woods will never have more Majors than Jack Nicholas. Ever,
36:11
Speaker 1: Tiger Wood is never winning another major obviously now right
36:14
Speaker 1: he's ended with fifteen, he's gonna be three short. I
36:18
Speaker 1: feel really confident that Tiger Woods the greatest golfer of
36:21
Speaker 1: all time. Like Tom Brady, He's the most accomplished quarterback.
36:25
Speaker 1: He's the most clutch quarterback. But was he He's not
36:28
Speaker 1: the most talented quarterback ever, you know, I think John Elway,
36:35
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, these guys have more talent. So
36:38
Speaker 1: we can argue to are blue in the face about
36:39
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. Here's the other thing. There's never
36:43
Speaker 1: there's never an outcome or result to these arguments. It's
36:46
Speaker 1: like we just argue. Okay. It's like, why does anyone
36:51
Speaker 1: change their political opinion recently? It doesn't happen. Yet people
36:55
Speaker 1: argue all the time. No one's changing their opinion. You're
36:58
Speaker 1: just wasting energy arguing with other peopleespecially if you're doing
37:00
Speaker 1: on the internet. Now I TV shows like it's entertainment,
37:05
Speaker 1: But how many times can you argue Lebron or Jordan?
37:08
Speaker 1: My take would be, who gives a fuck? I mean, sir,
37:11
Speaker 1: who cares? They both won? They don't. I think Michael
37:17
Speaker 1: Wilbon said that. Michael told him one time, like, God,
37:19
Speaker 1: can you guys just cool it down? But it's like,
37:22
Speaker 1: clearly that works. That they know it Works's why they
37:24
Speaker 1: replay it over and over. It happens with the quarterbacks too. Uh.
37:31
Speaker 1: I would say the Tiger one I feel the most
37:33
Speaker 1: confident about. But again, I sometimes like I didn't even
37:37
Speaker 1: see these other guys. Like, is show Heyotani better than
37:40
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth. I think it's pretty clear. Yeah, you know
37:44
Speaker 1: whatever Babe Ruth did as an overweight, you know, slow
37:49
Speaker 1: guy in the late twenties drinking beer and eat nod dogs.
37:51
Speaker 1: I think show Aotani's better. But like Babe Ruth, his
37:56
Speaker 1: importance to the lexicon of sports in America kind of matters,
38:03
Speaker 1: right when you say that, kind of like Babe Ruth,
38:06
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. I heard one of the
38:09
Speaker 1: guys on Bill Simmons. I met these guys at the combine.
38:16
Speaker 1: I saw this take of viral the other day of
38:21
Speaker 1: one of the guys on their fantasy show saying the
38:24
Speaker 1: super Bowl sucks. He's like, I would take Week eight
38:27
Speaker 1: over the super Bowl all year long. I'm like, I
38:29
Speaker 1: totally agree. I don't like I would much. I like
38:33
Speaker 1: football more in October than I do middle of you know, February.
38:39
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of the super Bowl. I
38:41
Speaker 1: think the super Bowl is one of the more overrated
38:43
Speaker 1: events in America. Now, winning the super Bowl it's importance,
38:47
Speaker 1: and I get the intrigue, but like everyone watches the
38:50
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, it kind of dilutes the experience For me.
38:54
Speaker 1: I think the Super Bowl is overrated. That would be
38:57
Speaker 1: a pretty hot take by me, but no one ever
38:59
Speaker 1: debates that. So I don't know. I'm not that good
39:01
Speaker 1: at debates in terms of like, cause that's up bores me.
39:04
Speaker 1: Who's better James Harden or Russell Westbrook? I don't care.
39:09
Speaker 1: What do you think the Rams quarterback room will be? Like?
39:13
Speaker 1: Is it weird dynamic that Stafford wanted to prove that
39:16
Speaker 1: he is still the MVP level, Stetson Bennett wanted to
39:18
Speaker 1: get the number two spot, and tie trying to figure
39:20
Speaker 1: out the NFL is a rookie Since McVeigh doesn't play
39:23
Speaker 1: starters in the preseason, does that mean whoever is playing
39:25
Speaker 1: in the first game is the third string? If Ty
39:31
Speaker 1: Simpson can't beat out Stetson Bennett this offseason, I think
39:34
Speaker 1: we got problems. You don't draft a guy thirteenth overall
39:37
Speaker 1: and that guy can't beat out stets and Bennett. If
39:40
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback was like Jacoby Brissett, who's just in
39:43
Speaker 1: an all time great holdout right now, which I kind
39:46
Speaker 1: of understand where he's coming from. But also it's like
39:48
Speaker 1: they don't really care that much. They might just cut you,
39:50
Speaker 1: which maybe he wouldn't care, But like, where else you
39:52
Speaker 1: gonna start? I if ty Simpson isn't the number two
39:57
Speaker 1: quarterback come week one, like be kind of embarrassing. It's
40:00
Speaker 1: not like he's going up against Jimmy Garoppolo or Kirk Cousin,
40:03
Speaker 1: some guy that started a bunch of in the NFL
40:04
Speaker 1: since a minute, So my guess would be Stafford one,
40:09
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson two, and Set sub Been at three, assuming
40:13
Speaker 1: they keep set Subnett, which I who knows. Does Kevin
40:16
Speaker 1: O'Connell have any chance of being on the hot seat.
40:19
Speaker 1: He's never really had a super Bowl expectation coming into
40:21
Speaker 1: the year, despite having a pretty good roster, but the
40:23
Speaker 1: quarterback position remains uncertainty. Obviously he's running the show. Why
40:27
Speaker 1: they haven't hired a GM yet? Lol, kind of weird.
40:30
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot they didn't even it. It's May
40:33
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, more a month after the draft. Someone in
40:36
Speaker 1: the league who is a number two. He's gonna be
40:38
Speaker 1: a GM in the next couple of years. Probably should
40:40
Speaker 1: have been a GM already. Text me recently he's like bro.
40:44
Speaker 1: Some of the stories I've heard, it's a weird situation
40:48
Speaker 1: there in Minnesota. He's not on a hot seat. And
40:52
Speaker 1: if he wasn't the hot seat and you fired him,
40:53
Speaker 1: he would get a job immediately. So I think you
40:56
Speaker 1: gotta be very careful, Like think about some of the
40:58
Speaker 1: people in Minnesota's fired, like Brad Children, Like, you fire him,
41:01
Speaker 1: he's not got a job anywhere, right, Zimmer, Like he
41:04
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna become a head coach anymore. Granted he was old.
41:07
Speaker 1: I actually thought Zimmer wasn't bad early on. I actually
41:11
Speaker 1: thought their teams were pretty good with Zimmer and Spielman.
41:15
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna talk, just know this, he's gonna
41:20
Speaker 1: go somewhere and kind of have this pick of a job.
41:23
Speaker 1: So you fire him, you just gotta be cool with that.
41:27
Speaker 1: I think he's got a couple of years. I don't
41:29
Speaker 1: know what the hell's going on with the GM situation.
41:31
Speaker 1: I like the Rams coming into the year, but most
41:33
Speaker 1: books have the win total at eleven and a half.
41:36
Speaker 1: After seeing the schedule and seeing the gauntlet. They have
41:39
Speaker 1: to play a lot of physical teams who are good defensively,
41:41
Speaker 1: some tough road games. Is under eleven and a half
41:44
Speaker 1: a good play. My take would be, I don't really
41:47
Speaker 1: play over unders, but I think you gotta be careful
41:50
Speaker 1: with good teams, like unless you think they're just gonna
41:53
Speaker 1: have a year from hell, like you'd have to sweat out. Yeah,
41:56
Speaker 1: they could win ten, but they also could win twelve
41:59
Speaker 1: or thirteen. You know, I like doing like, wait, they're
42:02
Speaker 1: over under seven, Like I think this team's like a
42:04
Speaker 1: three win team. That would be my philosophy when messing
42:08
Speaker 1: with an over under. Again, I don't play them that
42:10
Speaker 1: much because the returns not good enough for me to
42:14
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not just gonna been one hundred dollars
42:16
Speaker 1: an over under, you know, just a root against the
42:19
Speaker 1: fucking Dolphins. But if you're gonna go, I would do
42:22
Speaker 1: a heavy play, But I would do it on bad
42:25
Speaker 1: teams or a team that you think is better. Like
42:28
Speaker 1: I'm this is a hypothetical. I don't have it in
42:31
Speaker 1: front of me. But let's say the Titans are like
42:33
Speaker 1: five and a half or six, and you're like I
42:35
Speaker 1: they were the Raiders, Like, I think they could win
42:37
Speaker 1: seven or eight. I would do that. Over betting a
42:41
Speaker 1: good team is just because yeah, they play good teams,
42:43
Speaker 1: but they might beat them. Now, what I do think
42:46
Speaker 1: is realistic about the NFC West is you could have
42:49
Speaker 1: three playoff teams again Seattle, Rams, Niners. Those numbers could
42:54
Speaker 1: be like thirteen or twelve, ten and ten or something.
42:58
Speaker 1: So I think one of those teams, I mean last
43:01
Speaker 1: year what Seattle went fourteen, Rams, twelve or thirteen and
43:04
Speaker 1: the nine or twelve. I don't think that's happening again
43:07
Speaker 1: with the schedule. I got some of these questions about
43:22
Speaker 1: a gamer because I said recently that Maria and myself
43:28
Speaker 1: won't allow our son to be a gamer. I think
43:30
Speaker 1: you guys misconstrued, like, am I not going to allow
43:33
Speaker 1: him to play video games? I play video games growing up.
43:35
Speaker 1: I love video games. I think when I hear the
43:38
Speaker 1: word gamer, it's just sitting in a house, especially very
43:43
Speaker 1: very young, like he's four and a half months, so
43:46
Speaker 1: it's like when he's five years old, just sitting in
43:48
Speaker 1: the house playing video games, Like that's he's gonna be
43:50
Speaker 1: out playing sports, being active. That's what I meant by it,
43:54
Speaker 1: not that he's never allowed to play video games. As
43:57
Speaker 1: a twenty nine year old being a gamer in high school.
43:59
Speaker 1: In Universe, he helped me from falling into the wrong crowds.
44:02
Speaker 1: Given how open I was in my teens to trying
44:05
Speaker 1: anything that filled down the path that also had a
44:08
Speaker 1: public following. This is the top of the video game industry,
44:11
Speaker 1: growing exponentially in the last fifteen to twenty years. Solo
44:15
Speaker 1: team events such as counter Strike Fortnite pay upwards of
44:19
Speaker 1: five to seven million dollars per year, not fall off
44:21
Speaker 1: a lot of pro sports. Not that I'm someone to
44:23
Speaker 1: tell you how to raise your kid, but as someone
44:25
Speaker 1: who's seen video games have a great impact on younger people,
44:28
Speaker 1: why not let them have access? I got this other question,
44:31
Speaker 1: Dad Diaries comments, I think it's funny that your wife
44:34
Speaker 1: does not want your son to grow up with video
44:35
Speaker 1: games in the house. As a Seahawks fan, I see
44:37
Speaker 1: our players Tory Horton and Kenneth Walker posting about playing
44:41
Speaker 1: games in their professional athletes. Like with pretty much all things,
44:44
Speaker 1: moderation is key. As a twenty six year old, I
44:46
Speaker 1: have basically the entire progression from the rise of online
44:49
Speaker 1: gaming to where we are now, where video games seem
44:51
Speaker 1: to be at the peak of their cultural relevancy. I
44:55
Speaker 1: think it would be difficult to keep them away again.
44:59
Speaker 1: Maybe didn't do a good enough job of explaining this.
45:02
Speaker 1: It was more about he's not and this used to
45:04
Speaker 1: happen to me of like I would get it ripped
45:07
Speaker 1: out if I was just sitting there playing all day
45:08
Speaker 1: every day. That is not gonna be allowed. I mean,
45:12
Speaker 1: by the time he's like ten years old, I'll probably
45:14
Speaker 1: have incredible stuff, like I might want to play a little.
45:17
Speaker 1: You know, it's just about you're not gonna be allowed
45:19
Speaker 1: to sit there and do that all day long and
45:21
Speaker 1: never interact with human beings. That was what I bet
45:25
Speaker 1: if Also, if he's in the NFL, he can do
45:28
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck he wants. I'll promise you that if
45:31
Speaker 1: he wants to play video game, he can be a
45:32
Speaker 1: gamer all he wants. He can set Twitch records, if
45:36
Speaker 1: he's a Kenneth Walker in Zuper Bowl MVP. A big
45:39
Speaker 1: fan uh from the Land down Under. Love your work.
45:43
Speaker 1: I like this guy. I gotta admit there's something I
45:45
Speaker 1: find fascinating about NFL and NBA Draft bus. Watching deep
45:49
Speaker 1: dive videos on YouTube is always interesting and your experience
45:51
Speaker 1: are red flags of a potential bust always clear. Sometimes
45:55
Speaker 1: it is just a gut instinct that tells you someone
45:57
Speaker 1: hasn't got it. I think there are two lanes. Sometimes
46:03
Speaker 1: people quote unquote bust or don't live up to the
46:06
Speaker 1: hype because of their own self, whether that's work ethic,
46:11
Speaker 1: whether that's maturity, whether that's not being able to handle
46:15
Speaker 1: the spotlight, whether that's you know, you know. In the NBA,
46:20
Speaker 1: like is Zion Williams a bust he clearly never sniffed
46:24
Speaker 1: his potential. But he's made hundreds of millions of dollars,
46:28
Speaker 1: but he never became like a star like everyone thought
46:30
Speaker 1: he would be if you watched him a duke here,
46:32
Speaker 1: like this guy's gonna be like six or five shack
46:34
Speaker 1: because he couldn't stop eating, he couldn't stay focused. But
46:37
Speaker 1: it wasn't because a lack of talent. John Moran's a
46:40
Speaker 1: good example. Guy was US star and then just became
46:43
Speaker 1: a disaster because he just I don't know maturity, I
46:46
Speaker 1: don't know exact Some of you guys probably know better
46:48
Speaker 1: than me. But I just think there are those guys
46:52
Speaker 1: and those are bad examples because again, financially they made
46:55
Speaker 1: it in football, like JaMarcus Russell didn't try, like didn't try.
47:00
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel famously didn't even try. Now would that guy
47:03
Speaker 1: have been a star. Who knows Jamarc has had way
47:06
Speaker 1: more talent than Johnny. But Johnny like notoriously, I didn't try.
47:09
Speaker 1: If you watch the documentary in Netflix, he like went
47:11
Speaker 1: to Vegas night before a game. It's doing below. He
47:14
Speaker 1: plays in Cleveland. So I just think that that is
47:18
Speaker 1: a lane. And some people get drafted and simply do
47:21
Speaker 1: not have the talent. They're physical gifts that you need
47:24
Speaker 1: at the highest level, right, they do not have the
47:27
Speaker 1: capability like you watch the Knicks in Jalen Brunson, or
47:30
Speaker 1: you watch Jared Goff or brock Perty or some of
47:34
Speaker 1: these guys, they are getting every ounce of talent out
47:38
Speaker 1: of their body, like they can't siphon anymore. Obviously, Lamar,
47:44
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Herbert have more physical gifts than the
47:47
Speaker 1: Mahomes than most guys in the NFL. But they also
47:51
Speaker 1: a lot of them maximize their talent. Most guys don't
47:54
Speaker 1: have those capabilities. Most guys are not Miles Garrett, right,
47:59
Speaker 1: But do you maximize everything you have? So you see
48:02
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are just quote unquote overdrafted, right,
48:07
Speaker 1: that go on, especially in the NFL, that go on
48:09
Speaker 1: to have a long long career, and other guys that
48:12
Speaker 1: get drafted later are just more focused, more driven, tougher,
48:17
Speaker 1: you know, Kittle Kelsey. I mean these guys d young guys,
48:20
Speaker 1: fifth six round picks. So in specific fit matters, I mean,
48:27
Speaker 1: there are a lot of variables. I don't think. You
48:31
Speaker 1: definitely don't know, because if you knew, you wouldn't touch him.
48:33
Speaker 1: Like look at the dude, the Kansas basketball player, Like
48:37
Speaker 1: is he a gigantic red flag or was it truly
48:40
Speaker 1: just creative in the cramps. I don't know. I'd be
48:43
Speaker 1: a little nervous because if he doesn't live up to
48:46
Speaker 1: the hype, you'd be like, oh, we knew it, like
48:49
Speaker 1: I saw it coming. But like when you look at
48:52
Speaker 1: this recent draft, Rvel Reese, Sonny Styles, Jeremiah Love, a
48:57
Speaker 1: lot of guys who were drafted really high, like have
49:00
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl talent. Then it's kind of on them their
49:03
Speaker 1: situation to live up to it. And then obviously the
49:06
Speaker 1: third would be injuries question for the back. Are we
49:10
Speaker 1: sure people aren't completely overthinking Carnel Tate and Tennessee Everyone
49:14
Speaker 1: panicked about his four five forty, but when you watch tape,
49:18
Speaker 1: the guy has constantly burning DB's he has those reliable,
49:21
Speaker 1: massive hands, ninety four percentile crazy body control, and he
49:25
Speaker 1: has eighty five point set seven contested catch percentage. He
49:29
Speaker 1: honestly reminds me a lot of DeVante. If he turns
49:32
Speaker 1: into a total safety blanket for cam Woard and the
49:34
Speaker 1: Titans offense right away, how much production will it take
49:36
Speaker 1: for you to say, Okay, Titans nailed it at number four.
49:39
Speaker 1: Clearly he was the number one wide receiver on their board,
49:42
Speaker 1: and they valued because of cam Ward him over rvel
49:46
Speaker 1: rees and sunny styles. I personally would have taken one
49:49
Speaker 1: of those guys on defense because supply demand, I can
49:53
Speaker 1: get really good wide receivers in the second round. We
49:55
Speaker 1: saw a bunch of guys get drafted. If he becomes
49:58
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, it's a fucking hell of a pick. You know.
50:02
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say nailed it was wrong.
50:06
Speaker 1: I don't not like Carnell Tate. My question is when
50:09
Speaker 1: you draft a guy at four overall, he's never been
50:12
Speaker 1: the number one on his own team, and a lot
50:14
Speaker 1: of those number one wide receivers not named Jeremiah Smith
50:17
Speaker 1: were drafted in the late teens, So the value of
50:19
Speaker 1: those guys who were better than him in college, went later,
50:22
Speaker 1: and it's not like this guy's some freak physically, right.
50:26
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors pretty sure was kind of a one year wonder,
50:29
Speaker 1: but he was a physical freak, right. Jamar Chase was like,
50:33
Speaker 1: goally shit. AJ Brown, well, excuse me, AJ Green and
50:37
Speaker 1: Julio guys drafted four or five six range. DeVante Adams
50:41
Speaker 1: was a second round pick. So if he becomes DeVante
50:44
Speaker 1: Adams or Keenan Allen, like those guys are drafting the
50:46
Speaker 1: second in the third round, so you are just paying
50:50
Speaker 1: a premium. He'd better be a premium part of what
50:52
Speaker 1: made those guys such great players, Like got the Church
50:54
Speaker 1: drafted this guy in the third round. So yeah, well
50:56
Speaker 1: you watch Keenan Allen in college. He's fucking incredible. He's
50:59
Speaker 1: just slow, but not slow as a player, just slow
51:02
Speaker 1: running in a straight line and shorts and T shirt.
51:04
Speaker 1: Saying with Davante ran like a four or five eight.
51:07
Speaker 1: But if you watch Davante one what and here listen
51:10
Speaker 1: by all accounts, Carnell Tate because all the Oha State guys,
51:13
Speaker 1: I'll give Ryan Dale a lout of credit on this.
51:15
Speaker 1: All the guys are pretty high level cats. Like I
51:18
Speaker 1: you don't not only hear bad things like all the
51:20
Speaker 1: guys are like a great character and Caleb Downs, Sonny Styles,
51:26
Speaker 1: Carnell Taate, like Jsen. These guys are elite character guys,
51:30
Speaker 1: which you know some of these other programs got some wildcards,
51:35
Speaker 1: so I get My issue was more, I just don't
51:38
Speaker 1: view that player as the number four overall pick. But
51:41
Speaker 1: if you're desperate for a wide receiver like there is
51:44
Speaker 1: definitely a path for it to work out. If he's
51:46
Speaker 1: catching eighty ninety balls every year, no one's gonna complain
51:48
Speaker 1: unless Sunny Styles and RVL Reese become two of the
51:50
Speaker 1: best players in the league. Mailbox, well, it's mail bag,
51:54
Speaker 1: but and it's the DMS. But I know what you mean.
51:58
Speaker 1: Where's the proper amount to ask some to spend to
52:00
Speaker 1: attend a bachelor party to set the sea? We want
52:03
Speaker 1: it to be more of a golf trip. And we're
52:05
Speaker 1: a little older, so not many golf or buddy trips
52:08
Speaker 1: that some of our groups haven't done. Second question is
52:12
Speaker 1: kicking on the back end money or the depositive amount
52:15
Speaker 1: to make a crazy spot like Ireland or Dominican work
52:18
Speaker 1: good groomsmen gift or arrogant? Is kicking oh is kicking
52:22
Speaker 1: in on the back end money or the depositive amount
52:25
Speaker 1: to make crazy spot like Ireland or Dominican work, good groomsmen,
52:29
Speaker 1: gift or arrogant Uh damn. Most of the bachelor parties
52:34
Speaker 1: I was involved in were in my twenties and early
52:36
Speaker 1: thirties that were pretty economical Vegas, Scottsdale. I think as
52:43
Speaker 1: you get a little older it can change a little bit.
52:47
Speaker 1: But let's face it. If you get a group of
52:52
Speaker 1: multiple tea times, so you're talking eight plus, you're gonna
52:55
Speaker 1: have different people on the economic scale. Some guys are
52:58
Speaker 1: gonna be doing better than others. Some guys are gonna
53:00
Speaker 1: have families. Not everyone has the same disposable income. If
53:03
Speaker 1: there is a guy with a little more scratch and
53:06
Speaker 1: a little more willing if he can help out a
53:07
Speaker 1: little bit, but you can't really ask that. I don't know.
53:11
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a very very personal question.
53:15
Speaker 1: I think you just throw stuff out there, like what
53:17
Speaker 1: are they interested in doing? It sounds like you're doing
53:19
Speaker 1: pretty well if you want to get married in Ireland
53:21
Speaker 1: or the Dominican So I don't know. I did a
53:25
Speaker 1: destination wedding, but I also kept it pretty small, so
53:31
Speaker 1: if people didn't want to come, I was not offended
53:33
Speaker 1: at all. I would have been fine getting married at
53:34
Speaker 1: the courthouse. I mean, I'm glad we got married in Nashville.
53:36
Speaker 1: But I think it just depends at the point and
53:39
Speaker 1: time in life. You know these people personally, who's doing
53:42
Speaker 1: well and who's not, who can swing it and who.
53:47
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like this is kind of a tough ask
53:49
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think there is a there is
53:52
Speaker 1: a correct answer. Obviously, golf trips, most of them tend
53:57
Speaker 1: to be relatively expensive nowadays. You know, nothing has been
54:01
Speaker 1: hit harder by inflation than fucking golf. I mean you
54:03
Speaker 1: can go to average courses for three hundred and fifty bucks,
54:06
Speaker 1: and then you're talking traveling there, staying somewhere. Obviously, you know,
54:09
Speaker 1: Airbnb has made things a little cheaper than hotels because
54:12
Speaker 1: you can split a house whatever eight ten ways and
54:15
Speaker 1: it makes it way cheaper. But the flights, i mean
54:19
Speaker 1: flights are expensive as shit, so I don't have enough.
54:24
Speaker 1: I've never heard of anyone chipping in to get the
54:27
Speaker 1: grooms men to Ireland or Dominican, But you gotta do
54:32
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Looking to take my wife on
54:35
Speaker 1: a vacation. She wants to chill and be pampered, and
54:39
Speaker 1: I want to golf. Sounds like you guys have a
54:42
Speaker 1: healthy relationship. Any suggestions on good golf resort, good small
54:45
Speaker 1: towns with a chill vibe in golf. Uh, well, you'd
54:50
Speaker 1: want to do somewhere like I mean, honestly, Hawaii is
54:53
Speaker 1: a pretty easy one. We went to Hawaii last year
54:58
Speaker 1: on a little baby moon, right before the start of
55:00
Speaker 1: football season. I felt a little obligated because she was pregnant.
55:03
Speaker 1: I didn't bring my golf clubs, but I easily could have,
55:06
Speaker 1: and there would have been stuff for her to hang out, spas,
55:08
Speaker 1: do whatever. If that's too far of a flight for you.
55:11
Speaker 1: I mean most of my golf trips have been on
55:13
Speaker 1: the West coast San Diego. You go to like Lakita,
55:17
Speaker 1: go to Palm Springs. They have a bunch of golf
55:20
Speaker 1: down there and stuff for women to do. Obviously, like
55:22
Speaker 1: you said, Scottsdale, you know, Montereyan's pricey. I've never gone,
55:28
Speaker 1: but I've always wanted to kind of the Charlottesville area
55:32
Speaker 1: or Charlestown, like in Charlotte, you know, like what's it
55:38
Speaker 1: called where the golf tournament is Harbor Town. I haven't
55:41
Speaker 1: known people that. I don't know how much stuff they
55:43
Speaker 1: have there for like women to hang out and do.
55:46
Speaker 1: But check that out. There are thirty two teams in
55:49
Speaker 1: the NFL. How many have promoted the CFO to be
55:52
Speaker 1: general manager rather than hiring an experience personnel executive. I
55:56
Speaker 1: don't think that really happens. I think a lot of
55:59
Speaker 1: the good teams separate the business side in the personnel side.
56:04
Speaker 1: So typically your CEO, your CFO, those guys are running
56:08
Speaker 1: the stadium, the the ops, all that type shit you
56:13
Speaker 1: talk about. Brock Bauers got me thinking any theories as
56:17
Speaker 1: to why there isn't more push toward teams drafting and
56:21
Speaker 1: developing star tight ends After the renaissance of Wittngate, Shocky, etc.
56:26
Speaker 1: The position seems to have never risen to prominence, and
56:29
Speaker 1: it surprises me to this day. I know, great players
56:31
Speaker 1: at any position just don't grow on trees and they
56:33
Speaker 1: are not apples to apples comparisons to wide receivers. But
56:37
Speaker 1: I feel that good tight ends have the high potential
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Speaker 1: to become a stable target for years. Also, the market
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Speaker 1: for a tight end is relatively cheap. You could theoretically
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Speaker 1: get two trade McBride's for the price of Jamar Chase
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Speaker 1: and get changed back. While I believe Chase is better
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Speaker 1: at his relative position, it's obviously not a very large gap.
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Speaker 1: In addition, tight ends seem to be drama free. Why
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Speaker 1: don't we see nearly the same amount of quote diva
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Speaker 1: issues as other positions. Well, I think tight ends a
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Speaker 1: large part of their position. They're on the line of scrimmage,
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Speaker 1: their round offensive lineman a lot. So part of being
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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman like a defensive lineman, you get yelled
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Speaker 1: at a lot by your coach. Wide receiver likes Jamar
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Speaker 1: chasekin yelled at. So it's like it's that position. There's
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Speaker 1: more humility to it because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to block the defensive ends. Sometimes, even
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Speaker 1: if you're not a great blocker, you're gonna need to
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Speaker 1: position block linebackers. You're not really asking wide receivers to
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Speaker 1: do that. You know, for the most part, they're blocking
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Speaker 1: corners who depend on how big the wide receiver is
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Speaker 1: gonna be bigger than a lot of corners, So I
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Speaker 1: think that plays into it. I think people are terrified
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Speaker 1: of missing on the tight end for every and if
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Speaker 1: you look at it, think about some of the best
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Speaker 1: tight ends over the last fifteen years. Gronkowski was a
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Speaker 1: second round pick, almost said Aaron Hernandez, who was fucking sweet.
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Speaker 1: Obviously major red flags, fourth round pick, Kelsey third round pick,
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Speaker 1: Kittle fifth round pick. So you get these guys. What
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Speaker 1: was what was Trey McBride? Was he a second round pick? Uh?
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Speaker 1: I think he was fifty fifth overall pick. So part
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Speaker 1: of the tight end position is looks like he was
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Speaker 1: a basketball player in high school. Trevon Brie is a beast.
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Speaker 1: You can find incredible value in the draft in like second, third,
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Speaker 1: fourth round and get a star tight end. So Sam
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Speaker 1: laporta second round pick. Where was Tucker Craft drafted? I
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Speaker 1: don't even know around He was picked in third, seventy
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Speaker 1: eighth pick. So you look at if they're all healthy
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Speaker 1: the best tight ends. Obviously Kelsey's older now, but they're
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Speaker 1: all like second, third, fourth, fifth round picks, so you
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Speaker 1: don't need to use and typically there aren't guys in
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Speaker 1: a draft you're like, yeah, I should use the tenth
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Speaker 1: pick on this guy. It's pretty rare. I think it's
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Speaker 1: part of that, but I hear you you just draft
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Speaker 1: multiple tight ends a year because if you do hit
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Speaker 1: on them. Now the problem is how many tight ends
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Speaker 1: can you use. Everyone's gonna try to use three this year.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely not gonna work out, like not everyone Sean MCVAYH. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's always kind of been
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Speaker 1: that way that they are incredible value though, because when
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Speaker 1: you get a star guy, they make fifteen million dollars.
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Speaker 1: You get a star wide receiver, they are like thirty
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Speaker 1: five million dollars. So it's you get a tight end,
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Speaker 1: a guard, and a linebacker, you know. So, I it's
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Speaker 1: a great question. I've always loved the tight end position.
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Speaker 1: When I was with the Eagles where I Brent Selik
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Speaker 1: was our tight end, I think what he was like
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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. You know, It's like you just
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Speaker 1: can find these guys all over the place. Zach Kertz,
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Speaker 1: second round pick. You just find these guys all over
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Speaker 1: the draft. The volume