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Patriots Unfiltered 1/18: What's Next for New England, Takeaways from Jerod Mayo's Introductory Press Conference, NFL Playoffs Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium. And I was just talking to Paul,
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  Speaker 1: like moments before the show. It's it's a different feeling.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's more it's positive or negative.
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  Speaker 1: It's just different. It's like yesterday we had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Jirodmeo introductory U press conference, and now today what's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to happen? Like what are we supposed to do?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Like it's it's kind of a weird feeling,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I think Bill leaving created such a vacuum,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and understandably everyone's questions is how is that
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  Speaker 1: vacuum going to be filled? We know who the new
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  Speaker 1: head coach is, but what kind of head coach is
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  Speaker 1: that going to be? What's his staff going to look like,
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  Speaker 1: who's going to be having final say in different matters?
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  Speaker 1: And we don't really know the answers to that. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't answered yesterday understandably, you know, I'm sure Mayo is
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  Speaker 1: still filling out his staff and he doesn't want to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tip his hand or say something before he
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  Speaker 1: knows it himself. So but it's kind of a weird
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  Speaker 1: feeling that I have anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel it. We're the off season.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what And I mean I get what
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  Speaker 4: you're saying yesterday, and I definitely, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit different off season'd it was.
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  Speaker 4: And that's I mean, and that's why I think, at
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  Speaker 4: least from my experience the last few years, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: like you have to use this time to decompress a
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  Speaker 4: little bit and you know, to refocus on what's going
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  Speaker 4: to happen. But I agree, like you just you're kind
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  Speaker 4: of I mean, I almost said it was talking about
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  Speaker 4: it yesterday with my wife. It was like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we spent so much time speculating about Bill being gone
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  Speaker 4: and what that could look like. And you know, I
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  Speaker 4: use the term like into the wilderness almost like saying
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  Speaker 4: the team is into the wilderness. But now I feel
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  Speaker 4: like we're all actually in the wilderness. I don't really
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  Speaker 4: realize exactly. There's nothing you know and say everything you
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  Speaker 4: will about Bill, but there was just a certain way
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  Speaker 4: that everything was done and you knew what to expect,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, for better or worse, that's how it was.
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  Speaker 4: And now you don't know, you don't really know who
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  Speaker 4: to look to. You don't And I mean, look, I'll
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  Speaker 4: just say I really like Jaab Mayo. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I know that people probably have issues with how this
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  Speaker 4: is all going down with you know, GM searches and
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  Speaker 4: OC's and all that kind of stuff. But for me,
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  Speaker 4: I'm at least starting from a point of I really
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  Speaker 4: like this guy. I you know, I think he deserves
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  Speaker 4: this shot that he's getting. And you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: yesterday I kind of had a feel art this he
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  Speaker 4: seems like a head coach. Now he seems like that
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  Speaker 4: to me. I don't know how it's going to go,
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  Speaker 4: but but I like the guy, and I think it's
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  Speaker 4: easy to kind of get behind him.
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  Speaker 1: And as he starts this like, I want him to
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  Speaker 1: succeed for for him, but I also want him to
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  Speaker 1: succeed for us. Yeah. Oh yeah, you know it's life's
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  Speaker 1: a lot better when you're winning, and.
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  Speaker 3: That's where that wilderness stuff that Mike just talked about,
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  Speaker 3: like you don't know exactly which direction you know, things
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  Speaker 3: could go. So I agree with you, you know, and you're like,
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  Speaker 3: the off season is here. I feel like now, like
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  Speaker 3: what Fred's talking about, we really haven't had any days
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  Speaker 3: where it was like you could tell it's the off
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  Speaker 3: season until probably today. Yeah, you know, it's been you know,
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen with Bill? Okay, so you know, newsflash.
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  Speaker 3: But when something that big is going to happen, when
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  Speaker 3: it happens, that's not when you can start work. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're sort of preparing yourself that for the possibility that
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  Speaker 3: a change was coming, so you you had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of work to do in that regard. Then it happens
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  Speaker 3: and you have to, you know, sort of get it
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  Speaker 3: all out there and and express how you feel about it.
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  Speaker 3: Then you find out that they're naming girod Mao the
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  Speaker 3: next day, Like, there have been no off days in
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  Speaker 3: the off season I think until today.
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  Speaker 1: No chance, like you said, is to decompress. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's we're compressed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and it's a whole new set of things
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  Speaker 4: that you know, I mean, just even as simple as
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  Speaker 4: you know, whatever we've come to believe as what they
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  Speaker 4: like as draft prospects, like does that really hold water anymore?
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  Speaker 4: You know it's going to change, you know, right but
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's I think right now it's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit disconcerting and you feel a little bit like you
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  Speaker 4: don't really you know, have a gravity to the situation.
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  Speaker 4: But I assume it will, it will begin to develop.
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  Speaker 4: And oh, you know that was the the takeaway from
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  Speaker 4: yesterday was you know, this is what Mayo's doing right now,
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  Speaker 4: is as we kind of knew, he's stepping into this
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  Speaker 4: role and he's got to reevaluate every last little detail
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  Speaker 4: within this place. And you know it's I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: had a lot of fun less in a Felger yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: you know, dissecting every everything he said. And that's I mean,
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  Speaker 4: something I guess I've realized you have to be aware
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  Speaker 4: of in this town is that if you're going to
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  Speaker 4: step up there do a media like, everything you say
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  Speaker 4: is going to be put under a microscope. And it
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  Speaker 4: certainly was yesterday for him for you know, some of it,
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  Speaker 4: I grease.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't catch much of my shows unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't know exactly. I mean, I have an
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  Speaker 3: idea because.
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  Speaker 6: I negative, Yeah, my guess is they all My guess
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  Speaker 6: is they fixated on sort of some of the references
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  Speaker 6: to Belichick and things like that, as opposed to you know,
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  Speaker 6: sort of trying to do things maybe in a little
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  Speaker 6: bit of a different way.
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  Speaker 4: Good Paul, it's almost like you've been going on that.
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  Speaker 3: Show because we were you know, we were here doing
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  Speaker 3: doing TV here, so I didn't actually get to do
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  Speaker 3: my my spot that's I was listening, you know, with
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  Speaker 3: with with the Boys. But I do think there was
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  Speaker 3: you know, an element of you know, as Fred said,
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  Speaker 3: like kind of like that fresh you know start, that
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  Speaker 3: that that I think we were all looking for. I
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  Speaker 3: think we got an element of that.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I even you know, kind of silly and it's not important,
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  Speaker 3: but even the venue, different venue than we used to
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  Speaker 3: be in really impressive area of the stadium in the atrium.
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  Speaker 3: So I just felt like the whole thing was a
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  Speaker 3: fresh start. I would admit that there was probably a
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  Speaker 3: little too much you know, direct or indirect references to
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  Speaker 3: Belichick kind of in a negative light for my liking,
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  Speaker 3: but I thought the overall message was what Mike said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like, this is a guy that I think.
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  Speaker 3: He stands up there and he's a guy that you
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  Speaker 3: can get behind. He's a guy you can root for
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  Speaker 3: because I do think that he has maybe some different
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  Speaker 3: ways of looking at things. And I don't care. After
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  Speaker 3: twenty four years, I don't care how successful. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: need some different perspectives.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of what he said, it wasn't at the press conference,
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  Speaker 1: but Chad in Atlanta writes in he says, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you all heard what head coach of the New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: Girod Mayo said about the third overall pick. He said,
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  Speaker 1: and this was the Steve Burton. Yes, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: draft the best player at the most important position. To me,
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  Speaker 1: that at least means a quarterback. Which quarter back, though,
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  Speaker 1: is the question in my opinion, which seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a hot take. I say they should trade up and
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  Speaker 1: get Caleb Williams. I know it's contingent on what the
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  Speaker 1: Bears do, but he is indeed the consensus best player
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  Speaker 1: at the most important position. I didn't hear that until
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  Speaker 1: later in the day, and.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, it'spread like wildfire. As soon as
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  Speaker 3: they put it up on social media.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was so either he's you know, not afraid to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're in the quarterback market, or he's putting out a
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  Speaker 1: little misinformation out there. But it was eyebrow raising to
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  Speaker 1: hear him say that. Mac Jones was present at the
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  Speaker 1: press conference, by the way, so it's something to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: He said, ride and shotgun alongside Matt Smith's.
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  Speaker 4: So quick funny story. After the press conference, I got
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  Speaker 4: in the elevator alone and then someone came around the
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  Speaker 4: corner was like, hold that, and it was Mac. So
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  Speaker 4: it was me and Mac solo right elevator and it
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  Speaker 4: was like, you know, a million different things go through
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  Speaker 4: your mind and we did. You know, it was just
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  Speaker 4: kind of small talk. I was like, you know, where
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  Speaker 4: are you going? You know, it's like I'm just trying
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  Speaker 4: to get back to football, Like like, I guess I'll
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  Speaker 4: put you here. And then there was that moment of like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a billion different things you could say to him,
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  Speaker 4: and what I came up with not not not the greatest, Bob,
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  Speaker 4: uh have a great off season. It's like that's what
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  Speaker 4: I should have said. I had nothing. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. There were so many things like you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's like and so many jokes went through my mind,
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  Speaker 4: and like, man, they just got you. Marvin Harrison, Man,
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  Speaker 4: you'd be cooking like you know, but start pumping them
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  Speaker 4: up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: What do you bench?
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  Speaker 4: How much you bench? But it's so Mac, Like, it's
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  Speaker 4: so Mac that he's still here, He's still in the
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  Speaker 4: weight room, like he's still working. He came up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and I like, I'm not I'm not trying
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  Speaker 4: to go back to my take from Tuesday where we
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  Speaker 4: run it back, but maybe we should just run it
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  Speaker 4: back with Mac because he's here and he's working hard
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  Speaker 4: and he's dedicated, y'all.
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  Speaker 7: Oh lord.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But uh but no, Mac was there, and and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting to Marcusington. I mean that
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  Speaker 4: was the big thing I was interested in, just who
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  Speaker 4: kind of comes up to to, you know, show support.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly all the front office people and the scouting staff.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he said to me.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Bill O'Brien was no Bill O'Brien.
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  Speaker 3: Marcus Marcus Covington was the only coach. They're all on vacation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well there were a lot of staff, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: we saw Smitty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's personnel. The coaching staff was sent home last week.
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  Speaker 1: True.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Covington was the only one that I saw.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I'm not telling you to weren't
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  Speaker 3: any others. That was the only one I saw what
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  Speaker 3: I saw.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, Troy Brown is going to be coaching at
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  Speaker 4: the at the at the Senior Bowl in a couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks. But Bentley, Jones, Mac Jones, Jonathan Jones, Cardona, Cardona.
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  Speaker 3: And those are five players that I saw at the
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  Speaker 3: five plus mccordy and Ninkovich is a lumps.
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  Speaker 1: They hopped up media.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it was, I mean, it's funny just
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  Speaker 4: sitting there because I mean, you guys have I guess, Paul,
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  Speaker 4: you only one you only with party the bills, right,
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  Speaker 4: Bill Bills. But Fred, you've only had what two or
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  Speaker 4: two of you?
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  Speaker 1: Pete I had Pete, I had Bill. I had Parcels departing. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had Pete departing.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was another thing that got that got mentioned with
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  Speaker 4: the little crossfire there on parcels. Yeah, and uh and
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  Speaker 4: and and Girodd's line of I needed a break from
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  Speaker 4: Bill and they would look on Probert Kraft's face when
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  Speaker 4: he said that just kind of like, yeah, tell me
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  Speaker 4: about it, Like it looked like one of those. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I didn't think it was all. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there were definitely moments where you read in between the
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  Speaker 4: lines about you know, kind of what they're you know,
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  Speaker 4: certainly that the game has changed a lot over this time.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want to be in an echo chamber.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so those things I think you're easy.
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  Speaker 4: But I also I mean, and I wrote a piece
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  Speaker 4: on it, and I mean I highlighted too. Just I
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  Speaker 4: like the hard work works. I like that. I mean that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think is of all the tenants of
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  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick my two you know, guys really work hard
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  Speaker 4: here and and you know, I think short term focus
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  Speaker 4: on the immediate, what can you do right now? Those
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  Speaker 4: are two big things I always took away from Bill.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, I do think that, you know, he
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  Speaker 4: sprinkled in a couple of compliments, but I think.
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  Speaker 1: It was interesting to hear it. And I knew the
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  Speaker 1: answer to this without hearing Robert say it. But why
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  Speaker 1: Drod Like? What what was it about him? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: and he went back to when Belichick left here in
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven, and his instinct was to hire him, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, he didn't do it. He didn't do it
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  Speaker 1: because it was just too close to parcels. And that
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  Speaker 1: was the whole part when you were talking about, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he didn't do it, And he said, that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one of the few times where I went
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  Speaker 1: against my instinct and I was wrong. And so I
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: jumped at the chance when I had it again in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand to get Belichick and and but this time
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  Speaker 1: I listened to my instinct. And you know we talked
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: about when he brought him over to Israel. I would
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: have loved to hear what it was on that trip
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  Speaker 1: that you saw that really impressed you. And maybe at
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  Speaker 1: some point we can get your Rod on the show
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  Speaker 1: and we can talk to him about that. But I
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  Speaker 1: would you know, I get what Robert why he did
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  Speaker 1: what he did. You know, his instincts said this is
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  Speaker 1: the right guy for the job. And you know some
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: people might say, well, that's not the.
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  Speaker 3: Way to make decisions.
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  Speaker 1: I feel a little comfort for that because throughout Robert
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  Speaker 1: Kraft's life, his instincts have done pretty well for him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so if a guy like that tells me
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  Speaker 1: my instincts, tell me that the most critical position on
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  Speaker 1: this team. This guy's right for it. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's face it, if Girod doesn't do well, it's
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  Speaker 1: not good for the Crafts.
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  Speaker 3: And so this is all Yeah, that's the spotlight now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So if he's saying that, that gives me some comfort,
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  Speaker 1: and I would think for Patriots fans, I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: you should take some comfort in that too, just my advice.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to, but my.
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  Speaker 3: Advice loves to you how you should.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but my advice is to take comfort in that
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  Speaker 1: because it's coming from a guy whose instincts have served
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  Speaker 1: him well over time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting you brought that up, friend, because I
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  Speaker 4: found myself asking the question of was it a mistake,
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  Speaker 4: like was it't a like? Would it have worked the
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  Speaker 4: same way if he had just hired Bill, if he
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  Speaker 4: had gone from Parcels to Belichick? Or was there some
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  Speaker 4: kind of value that was taken out of having Pete
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  Speaker 4: Carroll here? For I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: Good for the Crafts to go of the direction which
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  Speaker 1: they did with Pete a player's guy, a guy, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and to learn from that because the way they did
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  Speaker 1: it was wrong, and the whole structure after parcels was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It was too many cooks in the kitchen. There wasn't
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  Speaker 1: that singular, you know voice, and it didn't work out.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt bad for Pete because it wasn't fair
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  Speaker 1: to him. Now say WHOA, Okay, so what's happening now?
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  Speaker 1: Seems like there's too many voices. We'll see, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I hope though, that they don't make that same mistake
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  Speaker 1: where you know, various people are answering to different people.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have that. You cannot have that. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, Fred, because I think if
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  Speaker 3: he had gone right to Bill. I think one of
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: the things at the time that was talked about was
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: that they wanted to sort of be more involved, and
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of stories, some of them kind
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: of legends, some of them actually you know, based in fact,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: but about how they were, you know, intimately involved in
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: the draft and the players and scouting and you know,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: you know, do you remember the infamous line that Robert
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: used about to Bucky Jones, calling him a press corner,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: you know, stuff like that that really like rubbed people
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: the wrong way. So I think if Belichick had come
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: in then and wanted all the you know, sort of
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: to eliminate that it would have been butting heads, just
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: like he was with parcels, and the fact that Pete
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: came in and it allowed him to see, Okay, maybe
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I don't want all of this stuff because it's going
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: to cause me to get mocked a little bit in
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: the in the me then Belichick was able to come
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: in three years later and say, Okay, this is the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: way we want to do things, and he knew that
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Robert was very conscious of that negative publicity that he
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: got by Yeah. Yeah, So I think it was a
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: better time.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: It was a good learning experience for a young owner.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: And people say, if you don't make mistakes, then you're
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: not stretching yourself, you're not challenging yourself. And I think
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that was a good opportunity for them to learn.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Another interesting thing I thought came out was Michael Hawley
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: seemed very like suddenly assured that they're going to hire
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: a GM did I don't know if you guys saw that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: He was talking about it a little bit last night
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: and he said, I don't know where he got that from.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: If he were mac Row and Elliott Wolf, he would
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: get there. They would get they should get their resumes ready.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I think he's one for two. I think one of
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: those guys will stay, and I think it's Wolf.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Do you think they're kind of auditioning over the next
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: couple of months?
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: Is that?
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how long Grow will
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: be here.
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone down there at this point
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that can say, I know I've got a job.
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: No.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But but knowing that the draft is three months away,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: even if you're playing ultimately, is to hire a GM.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I think you got to keep Elliott Man around because
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: they've done all the work. You know, you don't want
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to have to start over.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: If you don't hire someone, then you absolutely have to
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: because you can't just go with like a collaborative and
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Girod's going to be involved in it and whoever else
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: is going to be involved in it, and then you
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: don't have Matt and Elliott Wolf to sort of weigh
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: in and ride all your scouts. You have to keep.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: But I think if you got somebody and then you
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: wanted to sort of restructure your personnel department, I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: you could do that. But you know, in O one,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: you know Peoli came, Yeah, but they still kept Bobby Green, right, It's.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Very common for the existing structure to stay until the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: draft and then they go.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: If you bring a guy in early though to kind
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: of a maybe.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Yea, I think if you're planning on hiring a GM,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: which I don't know that they are, right, we certainly
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: didn't get any insight into that yesterday. That's why I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: was no insight. I don't think into that yesterday. But
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: if they're planning on hiring one, I think sooner or
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: rather than.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: It may not. If they do, it may not even
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: have the title of GM. It could be executive director
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: of Player Personnelity.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Certainly won't have general manager because it seems like they're
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: really conscious of that they have never had a general manager.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Well that's again Bill was the GM.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Again, you don't have to be children had a guy
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: who's served in that role.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I think, going back to what I said,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I think you do need that person who has the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ultimate say. You know, the times where they didn't on
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: this team toward the end of ourselves, it caused problems,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and certainly during Pete it caused problems. Things settled when
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Bill came and a person had the ultimate say, you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you that has to happen.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Like right, and it's just history repeating itself with the
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: same thing with Terry Glenn when you know that was
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: the draft pick. And I think they're facing a similar
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: kind of not crossroads, but just this it's a hard
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: decision to make when you need you need to turn
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the franchise around, you need, you know, Girod talked a
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: little about the offense. What does the offense need, Like
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, in a perfect world, you can draft that
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: quarterback that you can march out there, just like they
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: did with Mac And it was like wow, you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you just felt this new energy and this is a
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: new team now and this guy's gonna lead us, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you know it's it's I can see how a new
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: group would want to make that pick and not try
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: to come out and sell the we need to draft
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the tackle guys, like you know, even with the wide receiver.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, but even even even in a collaborative environment,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: which is good at the end of the day, not
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: there's no way you can always agree on everything, right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: At some point, somebody's got to make the decision, right,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, even to the stupid things like we do
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I try to be as collaborative as possible
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: include people. But there's sometimes where I just have to say, Okay,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you know the decider, you gotta have the designer.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Right, friend's right, Like what happens if Okay, so we'll
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: go back to Gerard's sort of you know comment to
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Steve Burton, you know, which may or may not have
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: been one hundred percent serious. So let's just say that. Okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: you know we're all in agreement. Right, we got to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: take a quarterback. But what if Gerard likes Jaydon Daniels
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and you know, Elliott Wolf likes Drake may or what
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: if someone else comes in, What if Matt grow comes
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: in and says, you know what, neither one of these
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: two guys in the answer, We need to do everything
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: we can to trade up and get Caleb Williams, who
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: makes the final call as to what you're going to do.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Not to mention all the personal angles that everyone's going
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: to have. For Elliot Wolf might be making this pick
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: to get the job. Gerard needs long term success. He
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: needs to put you know that, and and and I
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: also can't help but look at it through Gerard's defense guy,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Is he really going to draft an offensive lineman? You know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: like it's just like as a defensive offensive lineman, like
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. It's just all those kind
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: of bias and and and you know experience that you
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: have when then the game comes into play. It's uh tough.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I just found it hard to be like, does Gerard
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: have any clue who they're gonna pick at this point?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know. Part of me wonders if he
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: got a little bit over his skis on that one.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And it was kind of a lesson of you can't
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: really play coy with this because everyone's going to read
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: into it what they want to. And like I said,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: everything's dissected. You gotta be.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Careful, I'm gonna say, and you guys are gonna laugh
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: at me and say, what the hell is he talking about.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I think that there were times yesterday when Gerard was
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: so intent on showing you how he is the anti
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Belichick that he probably got himself well the situation.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Came out and said it. He came out and said,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: you can probably tell just by listening to me right now.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: It's another to me, unnecessary shot. But I do think
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: that he was so intent on coming across in a
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: different way that maybe he ends up saying, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be an important position.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I just hope that what we saw yesterday is drawn Mayo.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: In other words, that's who he is, and he's not
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: putting on a show. You know, I think no one,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: no one succeeds if they're not true to themselves. You know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: players can see through that in an instant. They know
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: when you're bs ing them, they know when you're putting
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: on a show. You know, they know when you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia comes in wants to be mister tough guy
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in Detroit, and guys aren't buying it because they can
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: tell that's that's not offen.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: People ask me, right, you know, like what were you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: what were your impressions? And that was the first Really
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: my only takeaway is that he was intent on showing
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: everybody that he is not going to fall into the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: trap that McDaniels did, that, Mangenie did that, as Fred
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: just alluded to Matt Patricia did. He's not going to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: try to be Bill. He's not going to replicate He's
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: not going to try to replicate how Bill did everything.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: But you know, that was that was painfully obvious yesterday.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But I'm also saying, if that is your tendency, then
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you should lean into that. Don't worry about being, you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: a disciplinarian if that's who you truly are, are you.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Know, because that's what your point about. I hope that's. Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: that's he's not trying to put on a show.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Because it's it's no good if you're like mister player's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: coach and then you're one and four and all of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a sudden you turn into you know, sergeant, sergeant whatever.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You know, that's not good either. You have to be consistent. Yeah.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: No, he seems like he has a pretty good sense
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: of who he is. And I mean just over the
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: last two years, whenever we've talked to him, it's always
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: when I get my own ship or so, it just
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: seems like mentally he has been preparing for this and
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: you know, understands everything that comes with it. But even
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: if you understand it, it's overwhelming. And I think, as
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: we saw yesterday, the smallest little misstep with your words
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: can kind of come back to bite you a little bit.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: And it's it's the hard part of this job is
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: everything you do is under the spotlight now, yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yep, and you know, I you know, I hope that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like if he's getting feedback, oh you should have said that,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: should have said that, that that that doesn't discourage him,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and that all of a sudden now he's clamming up,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know, just do it in a more thoughtful, thoughtful way,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you know. You know, Parcels always said I'm in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: business of getting information, not giving it, and that should
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: hold true for every coach. But there's a way to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you know, give information without giving information and still being friendly,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see. It's it's a whole new world.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: There's a million reasons why, you know, we're all rooting
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to work, but to me, as big as any is
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: just to show that you don't have to do it the.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Other way, right, there's different ways to do it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: You don't have to be you know, secretive with absolutely
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: everything that you have. I'm not telling you to give
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: us the game plan, no one's looking for that. But
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: you can be like Girod was yesterday and that doesn't
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: sacrifice your chances of winning.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree, And especially as we've gotten into
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: where the team hasn't been as good and it's you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: having a finger on every single detail. It's like, man,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: like you're losing the forest for the trees here. We're
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to break down these little nuances and
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: it's like, just get the special teams to not you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: top the ball up or turnover. But I I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: he's I think he's he's doing it the right way
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: at least to start. But it's you know, there's a
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: lot of challenges and you know, I I'm trying to
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: think of what else you know, kind of stuck out
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: to me, just uh, like the weight room stuff. I
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: don't know, there's just some interesting things that kind of
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: pop through that you're like, what what's that mean? You know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: the little little nuggets like those Deron Mayo And if.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: You think about it, you know that you know Vinci code.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: But even Felgrim as you know, getting into the squats
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: and all that. You know, the word squats gets in
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: and you know or well, we know that that was
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: kind of the.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Old coach about Yeah, that's kind of some of the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: things that I'm talking about.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: You know, was it on purpose or you know, because
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: sometimes these things it seems like but you know, it's
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: like you want. Sometimes I wonder, I'm like, are these
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: just are talking points? Like are these things that they
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: even really cross these guys? Right?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Aar.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: But I think what that, you know, showed me that yes,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: yes it does. And I mean I think there was
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: an effort to, like to Paul's point, to try to
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: you know, see things are going to be a little different.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would think that, you know, he didn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: elaborate on it, but when he's talk about weight room,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it's how hard are you doing the things that you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: need to be doing? Like not everybody needs to be
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: doing squads, maybe you need to be doing something else,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: but are you working hard at that something else? You know?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Because when you're in the weight room, you know, you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: fool around, you listen to music, you know, but you're
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: in there to do to achieve a goal, to get bigger.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing you know or whatever? You know?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: So I should go I'd like flowing around.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe over his years he's learned that you do learn
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a lot from a guy and how he does his
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: work in the weight room, you know, maybe that's his experience.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So I look again, I go back to what I said.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I I get comfort that Robert Kraft without ever seeing
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: this guy be a head coach, believes that he can
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: be a head coach, you know, because a lot is
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: riding on this for him, a lot.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: And I seem to identify it pretty quick. I mean,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: clearly knew him as a player. But then I mean
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: what I mean, he came back here in like March
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: of twenty nineteen. I think they went to Israel sometime
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: later that spring, so I mean it was, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: it had to be on his mind pretty quick, that
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: this guy. And I mean, you know, as you've been saying, Fred,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: it's you know, what are those traits? What are those
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: things that that make somebody, you know, a leader? And
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: everyone just says, oh, he's a leader, he's a leader.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: What you know? What is it?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I think Evan's back in the back room trying to
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: trying to dial down on that with with some of
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: his old teammates. So maybe he'll have an answer, yeap,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: all right?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Eight five to five PATS five hundred is the Ace
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: ticket houtline. Web radio at Patriots dot com is the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: email address. Other news, uh Bill. The Cowboys have officially
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: said that they're not getting rid of their coach. Doesn't
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: look like the Eagles are either. Because Siriani is doing
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: interviews for coaches.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I hold off on that one.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Already did that. They did that with Doug Peterson.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Oh is that right?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And they didn't get the answers they were looking for
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and then they fined. Right, So we'll see. Maybe Siriani
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: has the right answer.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but I still think that Atlanta's the best options.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: You know, we had another in second.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, you know, for Bill, this
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: is the most upside, uh with the least downside. If
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you go to Dallas and you don't do better than
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: what they've been doing, then you know, are you really
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: that good? And even if well, if you go to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Atlanta and you make the playoffs, oh my god, you're
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the best.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: If you go to Dallas and you and you do
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: really well, there will be naysayers that say, well, yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you needed to go and get the ready made team,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: right right. You just you know, you're a better coach
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: than Mike McCarthy, so you put him over the top.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: And no one would argue that he's not a vastly
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: superior coach to Mike McCarthy, you know, except for now
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: all Patriots fans, but you know, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I'm just so interested to see what what he installs
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and is it, you know, the full Bill Belichick regime.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: You know, this is how everything's going to be from
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: the top to the very bottom or is it gonna be? Look,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I don't I mean I was reading a little bit
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: about Atlanta's GM on office structure and how they have
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: decision making, you know, I mean, is it it almost?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I mean we talked about there's no way it was
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: gonna happen here. You were gonna take personal away from him.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: But it's almost like, wouldn't he love to just like
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: just focus on coaching the team? Don't you know, have
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: to worry about everything. I just I wonder where he's at.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Or he looks at that that way and says, yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I I need to say, but I don't have to
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: have thus say, and you know, just give me control
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: of the team, you know, I mean, whereas that wasn't
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: going to be the same here.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: He's like b Jeon Robinson anything.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about like he
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: could never do that here because he had it and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: it would be something that was taken away, whereas if
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: he goes to another team, he doesn't have anything anything,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: it's all new, and so he might be willing to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: settle for not full control. But you know, if he
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: stays true to himself, he knows that's the way to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, yeah, that any team needs that person who.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Has also, don't forget that he's yeah, I agree, but
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: don't forget that he's probably what is he looking at it?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Two year window?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: No, but he wants to win.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: No, No, I know, so he's gonna say, yeah, I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: don't need that, but he's going to do it. Yeah,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: it's you know what I.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Mean, because he believes that's the way to win.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: But we can have like we can butt heads for
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a couple of years and by the time you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: those really become problems, I'm ready to go. Yeah. It's
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: like point right.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: It's like everyone says, oh, Parcels went to Dallas and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: everything was fabulous. No, it wasn't. There was a reason
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: he left.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Oh no, you know it was fine. That was a
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: short term. That was like an arranged marriage. That was
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: all for the that was all for the stadium, right, it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Will that it wouldn't have lasted beyond.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: No, but they both sides went in knowing it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Parcels does say it was it worked fine.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: He thinks that Bill would have been fine there, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I agree, yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Because period exactly.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't think Bill could go to work
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: for Jerry Jones for twenty four years and have it worked.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think that would anybody could. Do You
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: think big Gym is going to get an Atlanta Falcons
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: hoodie to kind of troll.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Then no, because he's team Tom.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Team just didn't know if that's you know, I would
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: call him out.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: You remind me, I'll call him for you. I know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you get your feelings shirt on those things.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Well, you know that's another thing. You know. We'll get
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to the calls and emails in a minute. But the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: feeling that we had when Tom left verse the feeling
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that we have or versus is a.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Verse versus versus unless you're a kid verse.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let versus the feeling we have now with Bill leaving.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And I would say with Tom leaving, we were much
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: more sensitive about did he say goodbye? Did he say
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: he loves us? And with Bill not so much of that. Yeah,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you know I would say, I mean, because he never
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: gave us that anyway, you know, it's great.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Did get choked up when he talked about the fans?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: No, I know he did, But I'm just talking about
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: fans like like, oh, is he gonna is he gonna
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: say goodbye to us? Is he going to do this?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: But that's my point is Bill did do that. That's
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the part that he got emotional lot.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I feel a lot different about this,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: and like like I'm kind of like Evan was, like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: just the sight of Brady in the Tampa uniform, it's
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: just right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Will you have the feeling if you don't think I will?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think so either.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: What was worse for you seeing Brady in the Tampa
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: or seeing him in the Patriots.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Which hates him anyway?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: You good, Peter Brady distracted?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you walked on your own joke. But I don't
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: think people will be that upset seeing him in the Falcons. Now,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: if he wins a Super Bowl, that could be a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: different story, you know, but just seeing him on the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: sideline and winning games, I don't think people will have
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the the reaction that they did with Braid.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't feel the emotional investment of it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is at this point. I
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: just I kind of like would just I'm more curious.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I'm more curious than anything of just to see what
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: it looks like somewhere else with him, because Tom was Tom.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Tom's gonna go down there, He's going to be Tom.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: He's gonna do Tom. But like Bill, like does it
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: completely not work?
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know, Like Brady's first game and I remember,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I want to say it was New Orleans, but I
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: remember really looking forward to that first game. I wanted
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: to see what it looked like. I wanted to see
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: if he could still play. And you know, like those games.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: You remember that first year that they lined it up
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: so they would double headers every week, you know it
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: was Patriots and then yeah, Bucks almost every week and
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: we would glued to the red zone. I don't have
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: that for Bill, And I don't know if it's just
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: because it's a coach.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: He's just standing there on the side and you.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Don't have the same But you know, yeah, I'll be
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: keeping track of whether or not he wins. I'm not
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: going to say I'm I don't care but I don't
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: really care. I don't It's not as important to me.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Does this team buy into what he's selling? I mean,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: are they still you know, do their.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see, you know, the things that I'm
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: interested in is does he try to play the same
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: way Robinson? Well, no, you know for him it would
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: be no be Jahn Robinson, you're too town. Did you
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: go sit over there? Algier, you go sit over there,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: cord Aero Patterson, You're going to be my jack of
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: all trades because you play on all four downs, You're
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: going to get the majority of time.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Like right, just totally up the alp Car obviously for.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Those of you out here that you know that the
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the died in the world. But Bill, guys, I'm joking.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I'm making an exaggeration to prove a point. But I mean,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: does he try to They have a good like Atlanta? Okay,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: they do have a really good defense, like on paper. Now,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pretend to tell you that I
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: can give you the too deep you know, I mean
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: a j Terrell. You know that's you know, that's about
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: as far as I go, Like, I don't know all
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: the personnel. I know, Jesse Bates. You know that secondary
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: they played really well last year. That to me, that's
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: what he wants to do. I want to lean on
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: this defense and if I can get a quarterback, if
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter is the guy, and I can find a
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: way to make him not make any mistakes and we
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: you know, I think I can win doing that. And
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: does he continue to play that way or does he say,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: you know what, that's how they played last year, That
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: how Arthur Smith plays. They ran the ball, they played defense,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: and they went seven and ten. Yeah, so does he
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: try to do it different?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Kathy in Texas wants to know Mike which one of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: uh ask Mike which one of his friends in Atlanta
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: will be taking over the hoodie database. She just loved
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: this effing show so much.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: That's not very nicely said too.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question.
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: Sometimes you have friends in Atlanta.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I don't. But I can always just look at a
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: picture and see what he's wearing him right down.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: You can keep it up.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I don't have to write.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Should you put an add out for a freelancer?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: You just have to have an ask Rick on all
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the entries from this point.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: On, I suppose I should twenty five dollars a week
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: must watch beginning of Falcons game report on a tire.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: It was, it was.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, this was the most lackluster hoodie sees. I mean,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I don't have to tell you, guys, I'm sure you're
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: well aware of it already, but the most lackluster hoodie
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: to all time. Like he just I mean, he wore
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: that won a couple of times. There was no real
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: blast in the past. Maybe one time.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: But what if in Atlanti starts wearing a suit on
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the sidelines. Well, you know, that's just complete one eighty.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: It's one of life's great questions. Fred of why did
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Bill just all of a sudden this year decide to
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: wear button down shirts to button down shirt, rolled up
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: sleeves every press conference.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I have a theory. M yeah, it's a conspiracy theory.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I like it. He didn't want to wear Patriots stuff anymore,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: not that he ever did. Sometimes he turned it out
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: inside out, but at least you knew you'd see the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: sitrat He didn't. He wanted completely to not wear any
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Patriot stuff. So this was the way. You say, well,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing button down that's a good way of doing
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: it without, you know, just wearing a sweatshirt.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I'll just look presentable, right, So that's you.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Know, But really it was because he didn't want to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: wear the logo.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh down the rabbit hole, you know me.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I like to send the messages, but I mean, like
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: the whole years.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, yeah, go ahead. Yeah. By the way, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: have a newfound appreciation for Hardy. I found out yesterday
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: morning that he's into magic and I am too. Really,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'm proud to say it. I'm not afraid to say it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Can you do well?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I have an extensive collection of tricks really, yeah, I'm
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: more of a gadget guy, like close up magic type
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: of stuff. But I don't have them from video.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Now we need to see this.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I don't have to excuse me. I'm getting all choked up.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have the patience to get really good at
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it because you know, you just did. I just love
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: to do it and find out how it works, you know.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: But I've never had any designs like, oh, I'm gonna
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: did you get an act together?
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: You didn't have a magician name picked out yet?
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Was Jake Steele back then too? Yeah? But no, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: just I've always I've always loved magic tricks and little
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: gadgets and stuff like that. And Hardy used to be
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: a magician's assistant. He was on the road like women,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: they tore it all over and he was their stage. Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Really, we're going to ask him about this. I'm never
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: gonna see him again.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Uh. You know Magic Castle in LA that's a that's
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: a popular oh yeah, secret kind of but there's some
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: crazy close up magicians yeah there that they get for
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: like rap parties and stuff, and you just love that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: walking around and they would, yeah, you know, come up
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: to you and.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mostly car tricks.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Is that like the guy that does the NFL stuff?
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Is that different?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Who's that?
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Who's that? I don't know?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Oh he's the mentalist. Oh yeah, yeah no, that's that's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a different type of magic. But it's the same idea.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: It is magic, right, it's all magic.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know what it is. But he comes
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: to a lot of those NFL teams and it's like how.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: They like, that's what's your pin?
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Like what's your phone? Like what's your ATM pin? Just
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: don't tell me, just yeah. But there's like seven nine
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: to five, like everything.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Comes down to the umbrella of magic. But then there's
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: close up magic. There's mentalist magic, there's illusionists where you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: get the big stage production right, you know, but they're
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: all magic, you know, the David Blaine type stuff where
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: he you know, freezes himself for twenty days.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: He holds his breath in a really long time. Yeah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: but I don't know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: You know, if I knew that with Hardy, I would
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: have had this whole line of comment. We wouldn't just
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: be able to talk about music. We could talk about
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: magic man. We could do the trade and then we
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: could talk about it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Says he knows some magic, so Hardy would have had
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: some Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he was a juggler too, like a really
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: good juggler, and like he wrote her unicycles, basically, he
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a clown when he was young.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: I'm a good juggler.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: You're a good juggler. I can juggle pretty well, nice,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: like you feel like chainsaws and stuff on fire.
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: And all that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: I've never tried that, but I probably could give it
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Really, you're that good.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: We had a teacher when I was in the fifth grade.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: She left and we had a fill in for the
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: year in whose secondary job was a clown for Barnum
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: and Bailey.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Oh wow.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: She taught the entire class to juggle.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I could see uh Afghanistan like juggling rocket launchers, you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and like explosives. Yeah, grenades. Let's take the pin out
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: of this one. Let's see.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's make sure it's in the air when it
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: goes off.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: All right? All right? So eight five five pass five
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: hundred is the a sticked hotline web radio at pages
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: dot com. Let's get to the phones. We'll start with
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Nate in Ohio. What's up, Nate, Nate? I love this, Nate.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Nate.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Well, we just mentioned Hardy, so that had to happen.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: All right, Nate, call back if you can. Todd is
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: in Gardner, North Carolina.
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: Todd, gentlemen, how are you doing?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Good talk?
• 40:30
  Speaker 12: I got two.
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: Little things that have kind of concerned me about this
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: moving forwards here with Mayo. Number one, I listened Toggression
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: for you in a little bit of Andy, and they
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: felt that there was not enough substance with where the
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: team is going and how to move it forwards and
• 40:48
  Speaker 13: who's going to be doing what he said, where's the plan?
• 40:51
  Speaker 13: And they all they heard was I'm going to evaluate
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: the team. I'm going to evaluate the team, and that
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: makes me nervous and leads into my second point, and
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: I'll take your answers to both these off the air.
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: My second point is it really feels weirdly like here,
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: I'll put it out there. I'm going, if if mac
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: Jones is not on the team starting next season, like
• 41:16
  Speaker 13: not as the starter, but on the team somehow somewhere,
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: I'll buy you guys lunch, because it just feels like
• 41:21
  Speaker 13: they're the way they attack Bill, the way they said
• 41:23
  Speaker 13: they know, we got to evaluate everybody here, it's like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: we know what we're doing. Bill's out of the office. Now,
• 41:29
  Speaker 13: you know we got this. This is going to go on.
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: And it's almost as if they're especially Mayo, felt like
• 41:34
  Speaker 13: they had to prove something now and I'm like, guys,
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: just get rid of mag Jones. We start just focus
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: on offense. And that's kind of my fear that they
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: think that they can do something and I'm worried about that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, take care, guys. Thanks listen. I understand people want answers,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: but I also understand that he probably is looking at
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: everybody that's currently on the staff, and do I keep
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: this person or do I not? If you start talking
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: about how you're going to change the offense all of
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a sudden, if it's you know, I'd love to do
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: more mobility. Mac Jones knows he doesn't have a giant
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you know, so like you can't get too specific yet
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: or else. It has a trickle down effect to individuals
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: who may or may not be here. So it is
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: too early for him to give you those details now.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: If a month from now we still have the same
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: questions now, I'm worried. Yeah, but I would hope that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: in short order a lot of this stuff starts to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: get revealed to us.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something's working on. I mean, I was, I mean,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I was just a little bit more encouraged that it
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: sounded like they might actually look outside and hire some people.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Like to me, going into that press conference yesterday, which
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: is what it was, it was a press conference, I
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: didn't expect them to you know, chart out the whole plan.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: But at least I felt like it seems like they're
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: going to be interviewing people, They're going to still be
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: considering people. It didn't feel like a possibility to me
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: heading in, it seemed like they were basically just gonna
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: run it back.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: With what I'm with, Fred, it's too early, like I
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they could. Sis is wrong
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: because they didn't give you anything yesterday. But it's too
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: early to be worried about it because they don't have
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: anything to give you yet. And I think they're going
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: to go outside too. I don't think they have a choice.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I think all the offensive guys are gone. They're not
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: coming back. That I don't think Bill O'Brien wants to
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: come back. So you either going to get a new
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator or van put someone that's staying on defense
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and make them the offensive coordinator. I mean, I just
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: don't think they're going to have any options.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean and that in itself, I just
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: feel like is automatically kind of refreshing to just get
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: off of the offensive coordinators that you've had for the
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: past what twenty years. I mean, those two guys have
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: been the offensive coordinators for twenty years.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: It's only refreshing if they didn't want them, right, Like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I just wonder if, well, if given their option, would
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: they be running it back. That's, you know, to Todd's
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: second point about Mac Jones. Yeah, and that would concern me.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: I mean another part of it too, is you know
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Toroy Brown being named offensive coordinator of the Senior Bowl, Like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: does that say anything about his job status right now?
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I mean it seems like he would be a person
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: who'd be at the forefront of some of these decisions
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: that have to be made. And you know, on one hand, Troy,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I mean he was what he head coach last year
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: at the Shrine Bowl. He's an offensive cocordate for the
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. I mean it shows that the league is,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: you know, taking notice of him. I'm tiredly sure why,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: but you know, we'll see how. How was Senior Bowl
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: seems I just I thought that was interesting yesterday and
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: I wonder how that's going to play out.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Jay in Minnesota. What's up, Jay?
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: Hello, guys, second time calling in. I had a couple
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: of questions. I had seen that Julian Edelman was talking
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: about the top five PAT teams of all time. Yeah,
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: and I think his list was number five oh one
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: and then four oh seven, sixteen and then fourteen. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: kind of agree. I would like to see your thoughts
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: on that. And then to my actual question, how aggressive
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: do you think that Jeron Male would be in the
• 44:59
  Speaker 11: draft trading? Do you see him taking what comes to
• 45:02
  Speaker 11: him in terms of quarterback and weapons or I don't know.
• 45:08
  Speaker 11: I feel like he might be aggressive and.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know either. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Like
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that I have no indicator about whether he's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a trade up guy, a stay put guy, a trade
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: down guy. I don't know.
• 45:21
  Speaker 11: Would you like to see him take the people that
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: come to him, Like if it ends up being Caleb
• 45:26
  Speaker 11: Williams and then Drake Made, do you want to take
• 45:28
  Speaker 11: Jane Daniels or.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: No, I may be back.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Tell me who's available, tell me, like, let me see
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: their board.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: It's so you know when you talk about that with
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the draft, there's no like, oh they should always stay
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: put or should they should always be aggressive? It really
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: depends on your scouting.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: It's hard at three, right, because you know the three
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: guys that you're doing, So it's the one you like
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: the best. I would like Caleb Williams the best out
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: of those three. So yeah, I'd be interested in trading,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: but at what cost? Like it's it's never just in
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: a vacuum.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so you don't want to.
• 46:02
  Speaker 11: Have a bad draft, you know, right on his first year.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:05
  Speaker 11: And then my last question and not take it off there,
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: what do you think the expectations are in your eyes?
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: And then from Robert Kraft? Do you just want to
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: see a better season than last year in a little
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: progression or do you think that Robert is expecting, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: a whole new overhaul and maybe even making the playoffs.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I don't think he's expecting the ladder.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to expect that anyway. But
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you know, personally, I want to see a team that's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: playing together, not making the mistakes that they made last year.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: You know, you're upgrading your personnel, You're in the right direction,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and hopefully you got a quarterback of the future.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: More young guys would promise, and a plan on offense.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, talent in place.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the record is, honestly.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mention the record.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, although i'd rather not before and thirteen.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: No, and they probably won't be. Yeah, but it doesn't
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: there any better, No, Like you know, the example I
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: used when we were talking about this with somebody yesterday,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Like you know, like someone goes, well, you know they're
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: gonna go six and eleven, and I go, okay, well
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: are they gonna be any better? And he goes, well yeah,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I go all right, So let's just say that the
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: season unfolded and you beat the Colts and you beat
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: the Giants? Were you any better? Right?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Those those two games you lost ten six and ten seven?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Right Like, so obviously one play could have won both games.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel any better about anything that I saw,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: would you, Right?
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: No, Yeah, And that's what I mean. I think, just
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: you know, we can put all names to the claims
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: and that I just they need to rebuild, and like
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: it's not a one year plug with number three pick
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: into this team and they're going back to the playoffs.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: It's you know, they just they have to be measured
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: and they have to hit on these draft picks like that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: This is the mistake that people make, particularly when you're
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: talking about football. Wigi was on this morning, and he
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: made a mistake, and he was making the case, you
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: know that they got they moved too fast on Bill
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: getting rid of them, that he over the last four years,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he's only only two of them ad been bad because
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the COVID year was the COVID year. I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: throw that out, COVID year. And then and then of course,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you know the first year they drafted back, that was
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a good year. But you have to take everything in context.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: The second half of that year was not good. They
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: went in the wrong direction, and then there were a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: lot of things besides record that added up to Billlieving
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and you have to take it all into consideration. And
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Wigi was not doing He's just simply going by the record.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: And that's the Paul's point. If they're six and eleven
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: next year and everything's a mess, that's not better.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Like if you still have no offense, but you find
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: a way to win a couple more games because the
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: ball bounced differently, right, that doesn't make it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: You can't go by the record when you're just if.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: You have some like Mike made the point about the
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: draft class, if you have some young guys playing prominent roles,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: like more so than you know, like like Gonzalez was,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: if you had like two or three young guys like Gonzales,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not talking about Keon White, you know what
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like I'm not I'm not that King of
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: White was a bad pick, but it's fine. He didn't. Yeah,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: he was just there. He was out there. Like if
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: you have guys playing prominent roles and playing well, and
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: your offense is showing signs of evolving and being more
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: productive and more consistent, those would be positive signs regardless
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: of what the record.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: That was the thing with Gonzalez to me, it's like
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: you just knew instantly when you like this. This kid
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: moves different than everybody else, Like he just you could
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: just tell. And there haven't been a lot of those guys,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I mean to Wiki's point, And it sounds stupid because
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: they went to the Super Bowl in seventeen and eighteen,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: but I would say that this has been a team
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: and kind of declined since twenty sixteen when they won
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: that Super Bowl against Atlanta and the pieces, you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: in credit to Tom Brady and you know Bill's coaching
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: to keep it together, but it feels like they've been
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: kind of bleeding talent since that point and they haven't
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: really been able to put a stop to.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: So let's go back on the original call ranked it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, see five teams.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: This is of the dynasty. Because when I'm gonna go
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: back too yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I mean I'd probably just bump seventy eight. I'd bump
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: oh one off, you know, for for two thousand and three,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: because I think that was a team that was.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I would agree really special. Three three was probably number five.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think fourteen was you know, fourteen might be
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: my number one team by in two thousand and four.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: That's what Edelman said, didn't he say that fourteen he
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: had his two teams.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: He's also fourteen. Yeah, he had sixteen and fourteen.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't put sixteen anywhere near there, and I
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: would put I would put four ahead, I would put
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: seven ahead, but then fourteen would be in there. Yeah,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: but you know, obviously everybody has different things that they love.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in terms of like and again, teams
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: in their era, like the you know, seventeen was kind
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of ahead of their time in terms of like pinball.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, I would say seven, three, four, fourteen,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and then one would put.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Three ahead of four or this is no particular order.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: No, I would I know, I'm sorry, four ahead of three, Okay, Yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: so four to me, seven, three, four, fourteen, and then
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Four to me was as close to a perfect team
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: it was they had no weakness, right, but.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure like this year, if O four would
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: have the same success.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that's different.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You have to take a judging
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: context of that year. Yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think I wouldn't want to be lining
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: up with like, you know, like.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I think I think seven. I think, oh seven today
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: would still be good.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, uh, the defense would struggle.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: The defense struggled then slow zone defense.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if everybody was playing the way they play now,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: that defense would have been okay.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: All right maybe yeah, like Ellis Hobbes, Yeah.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: We turned from the other studio.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, how are you just extended Catch twenty two?
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: We're not done yet.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Catch twenty two after Dark, Alex's seventh round, Sleepers coming
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: on catch.
• 52:09
  Speaker 14: Up what they call it Felger does like after the
• 52:13
  Speaker 14: after show on Facebook Live.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: That's what no.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 52:17
  Speaker 14: I was actually talking to one of the members of
• 52:19
  Speaker 14: the twenty fourteen Super Bowl champions, Jamie Collins. Oh and uh,
• 52:23
  Speaker 14: he used I said to you. I was joking with
• 52:25
  Speaker 14: him that he used to duck us in the locker
• 52:27
  Speaker 14: room the media. I mean, uh, totally fair and warranted
• 52:30
  Speaker 14: and he would like show his head in and then
• 52:33
  Speaker 14: like see us in there and like be line it out,
• 52:36
  Speaker 14: and he'd gave me. I was talking to him about
• 52:38
  Speaker 14: Grod Mayo and he gave me a great interview. I
• 52:40
  Speaker 14: was like, you should have done this more often, like
• 52:42
  Speaker 14: you're you got stuff to say, Like he was great.
• 52:45
  Speaker 14: And I also talked to one of my personal favorites,
• 52:47
  Speaker 14: Brandon Spikes, about Mayo as well, So that was cool.
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: You inspired me, Fred, Yeah, so I.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Think we talked about it and it was your idea
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: about you know, talking about ex teammates from Gerrod, like
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: why you think he could be a good head coach
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: And so you're calling a lot of the linebackers that
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: he was closest to.
• 53:06
  Speaker 14: Yes, I called, well, you know, pr obviously helps, Aaron
• 53:11
  Speaker 14: got me, Jimmie Collins, Brandon Spikes, we're working on High Tower.
• 53:15
  Speaker 14: That's like the Golden Goose, right, so we're trying to
• 53:18
  Speaker 14: track him down. And I spoke to Rob Nikovitch was
• 53:21
  Speaker 14: at the press conference yesterday, so I spoked to him
• 53:24
  Speaker 14: a little looking forward to that. Yeah, And Jamie Collins
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: said had a great story.
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: He said that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 14: Girod used to call meetings players only meetings after all
• 53:35
  Speaker 14: of the meetings were already done for the day, and
• 53:37
  Speaker 14: Gerrod would run the clicker and they'd watch film together
• 53:41
  Speaker 14: of the next opponent, and he was like, you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 14: Girod would be in there and you know, he'd run
• 53:46
  Speaker 14: the clicker and we'd all be like why do we
• 53:48
  Speaker 14: like we want to go home, like why do we
• 53:49
  Speaker 14: have to see the Yeah, like why do we have
• 53:52
  Speaker 14: to do this? And and then but Jamie said that
• 53:54
  Speaker 14: then we get out on the field on Sundays and
• 53:56
  Speaker 14: stuff that we talked about with Gerard would come up
• 53:59
  Speaker 14: in the game and so I would be like, this
• 54:01
  Speaker 14: is why why we do it? And Brandon Spike's mentioned
• 54:06
  Speaker 14: just that when he was at Florida, actually that Urban
• 54:11
  Speaker 14: Meyer at Florida would circle Girod Mayo at Tennessee and say,
• 54:16
  Speaker 14: this is like we cannot let this guy get off
• 54:19
  Speaker 14: on us, you know, like this is right, this is
• 54:21
  Speaker 14: like one of their you know we always talk about
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: like Tuesday players like this is one of their guys.
• 54:25
  Speaker 14: And so that was cool too. But yeah, the Collins
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: story about him holding like basically running meetings himself, Yeah,
• 54:33
  Speaker 14: as a.
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: Player was crazy.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: That's kind of interesting. I forget Paul would hate that
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: what Jerad's role was in fourteen and fifteen, those last
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: two years, because I know it was hurt for a
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: big majority of it. And I think we all remember, you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: high towern Collins really emerging in twenty fourteen with you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: like those double mug looks up front, and you know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: they made great use of that stuff. But it almost
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: seemed like at that point he was kind of transitioning
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: more to a coaching role because he was I mean,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: I want to say twenty fifteen, he I don't even
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: know if he played more than just the hand full
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: of games, if even and really maybe that that was
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: a chance to.
• 55:03
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that was there's reporting out there that him and
• 55:07
  Speaker 14: Steve Belichick in twenty fourteen that's when they started to
• 55:11
  Speaker 14: get a relationship because Gerard would would work with the
• 55:14
  Speaker 14: coaches because he was on IR so he would work
• 55:16
  Speaker 14: with the coaches, you know, with the game plans and
• 55:20
  Speaker 14: stuff like that. But you know, Collins is cool because
• 55:22
  Speaker 14: he played with Gerard and then played for Gerrod, so
• 55:26
  Speaker 14: it's like that unique thing. And he just said that
• 55:29
  Speaker 14: you know, him and Steve Belichick where just they had it.
• 55:33
  Speaker 14: No one really knew, like who was doing what. But
• 55:36
  Speaker 14: they were so in sync with like everything, and they never,
• 55:40
  Speaker 14: like at least out in the meeting rooms, never like
• 55:43
  Speaker 14: disagreed in front of the players or anything like that.
• 55:45
  Speaker 14: And they were always on the same page. And just
• 55:47
  Speaker 14: the way people talk about their relationship really makes you
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: wonder if Steve Will will end up staying here.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder. We don't know yet, no, but it's
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: just it's hard to watch that yesterday and hear some
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: of the Bill things, and you know, just wonder what
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Steven Bryants thoughts would have been if they had been there.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it just seems awkward to.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Me they weren't up there.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm sure they've heard.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Brent and Reno. What's up Brent?
• 56:15
  Speaker 15: Hey, guys, few things and I'll take them both off air.
• 56:20
  Speaker 15: Number one and obviously, less importantly, how wild of a
• 56:25
  Speaker 15: pipe dream is it to think of Julian Lleman coming
• 56:28
  Speaker 15: back into a offensive coordinator position and number two being
• 56:34
  Speaker 15: one of the only Patriots fans on the West coast
• 56:37
  Speaker 15: in a forty nine er family, my kids do March fifth,
• 56:40
  Speaker 15: and I've already got in Patriots binkies bottles onesies, but
• 56:44
  Speaker 15: my mother in law bottom of niner onesie. How do
• 56:47
  Speaker 15: I ensure that this boy remains a Patriots fan? My
• 56:50
  Speaker 15: wife shot me down on getting a tattooed.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: But anyways, rights, right, it's GOI me tough if the
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers win the Super Bowl, because then you
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: got all.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Ruined. The onesie in the wash, like do something, put
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: some bleach in it and just like destroy it so
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we can't wear it.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: We got that with might get you out of having
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: to do laundry in the future, right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my kids, we got a lot of Lakers stuff
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: from like you know, l A families and so that
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's much shot you have of
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Julian Edelman. No, you don't bother me when I'm talking
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: to my mama.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Those have been great. I gotta listen to the whole
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Brady one with Moss talking about all the crazy times
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: with those guys. I mean at.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: That impersonations is like perfect, that's just gold.
• 57:36
  Speaker 14: Yeah. He I think he likes his job too much
• 57:39
  Speaker 14: in the media. He's having way too much fun with that.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's has he given any indicators like you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: someday I'd like the coach.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: I think anybody wants that.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: He looks like he's enjoying life, like laying on that
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: couch when he's doing the podcast.
• 57:53
  Speaker 14: By the way, I wonder if the caller maybe he
• 57:57
  Speaker 14: got Wes Welker and Julian Edelman that could be Miami
• 58:02
  Speaker 14: Wide Receivers coach currently. Yeah, he is on the OC
• 58:05
  Speaker 14: track Julian Edelman.
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and now.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: He's got the freedom to come back.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right, Mike McDaniel Predigree, Yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 14: I do wonder if you will see, yeah, that Jirodd's
• 58:17
  Speaker 14: the coach, if we will see some former Patriots on
• 58:19
  Speaker 14: the staff though, because the two guys I spoke to
• 58:23
  Speaker 14: were like, if he calls, I'm coming, you know, oh yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 14: And Brandon Spikes is he's at Florida. He's working back
• 58:31
  Speaker 14: at the Alma Mada and uh and he's you know,
• 58:35
  Speaker 14: he's helping out Florida's program, trying to get them back,
• 58:38
  Speaker 14: you know, to where they were when he was there
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: and things like that.
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: And so is he.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Still on the internet.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I asked that yesterday.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you know, I'm going to plead you want
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: his only fans account a license for that thing. Yeah,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: that was a great That was a great moment in
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: PFW and.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh, you guys just covered the who does
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: a Google search of Brandon Spike is junk and Frank goes.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I have seen it, I have seen, and then I
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: said it in the EV yesterday and then Paul starts
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: grilling you have you seen?
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Have you seen?
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I just go I don't get that. I have no
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: desires re search.
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: You guys should have heard what said yesterday. I'm not
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: going to repeat it. It's not for it was.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: It was good good where out of nowhere I didn't.
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: Know me and Neil Perry almost fell on the ground.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Good times and Spikes.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chris, I'm just gonna add to it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: But ye, Chris is in New Hampshire. Hey, Chris, Hey,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: fellow's going good?
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Hey quick.
• 59:49
  Speaker 16: Two quick points about that press conference. The first one,
• 59:52
  Speaker 16: maybe it was just two directed to watching Bill, but
• 59:54
  Speaker 16: I kind of got used to and started enjoying. Bill
• 59:57
  Speaker 16: is just awful interaction with the media, and it was
• 59:59
  Speaker 16: sad do not have that. The other thing was every
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 16: time Mayo called Craft thunder, Yeah, I was don't call
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 16: him thunder and then thunder again?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seven times I felt, I'm with you, Chris, thanks
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: for the call. I felt uncomfortable with that me too,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Me to thunder really like.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: The first one. I was like, oh, that's kind of funny.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Then like you doing again?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thinking is that why you got hired?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Like what are we doing?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 14: Yeah, you know Bill used to call him, at least
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 14: call him rock, right, Yeah, I don't have to go
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 14: all mister Kraft like you're the head coach.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not big on the mister Craft part of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: it for a coach.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: If I'm the owner, Like, I don't know if I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: want this guy that I just gave this big job
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: giving me a nickname.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: You know, you gotta be careful giving people nick Yeah.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: It's like I I hated it that Cam Newton came
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: in and immediately started giving people nicknames.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Screw do you own me? Remember that? Questions? So you
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: got nicknames? Can you run them all down for us? Cam?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: It was a dark year, all right, Yeah we're desperate
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: waiting on a zoom call.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: Dirty day smoking Joe, Yeah, I think right. Twin number one,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: Twin number two, I.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Think half the reason he did is because he couldn't
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: remember people's real name I know, probably like me, I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. Hey guy, are you yeah?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: Hey, this one was Niki Harry dough boy.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Do boy.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah that told you a lot.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, didn't.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: And then you know, what's so, what is mac Jones's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: middle name?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 9: Everybody knows McClellan.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Know that. You guys don't even know this. His middle
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: name is actually McClellan.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: Lell No, it's it's not.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Scott and Wellesley. Hey, Scott, Hey, guys.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 12: I'm enjoying the show. I said a couple of quick
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 12: questions about Yeah, first of all, you know the report
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 12: that bit Ard had a few weeks back that people
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 12: said that they would rub people the wrong way in
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 12: the building. You know, in light of that, it made
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 12: me feel like a lot of the comments that Maya
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 12: were making were small gigs at Bill, and I wondered
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 12: if you guys got that impression. And then my second question,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: essentially was when Kraft talked about how he was thinking
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 12: about hiring Belichick in ninety six, but he had such
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 12: a bad relationship with Parcels and he didn't know if
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 12: he could trust Bill. If that's the case, and given
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 12: you know, obviously all the leaks have been going towards
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 12: from the crafts towards Bill. Now, how would he feel
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 12: about keeping the Belichick kids around, you know, because he's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 12: still try giving the teams like there aren't big feelings
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 12: going towards Bill from him or either his coach. And
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 12: but the last thing was I couldn't stand the thunder
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 12: thing either. It killed me every time he said it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: No, it's good questions. And I guess you'll take it
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: off the air because I'm just causing you.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 15: No.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I in terms of the kids, Listen, they have a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: career in front of them. It behooves that them to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: do if they stay, to do the best possible job
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: they can do and to not undermine themselves by you know.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's a concern.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: I I think not not that they're not going to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: do the best possible job. That's not a concern. Yeah,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. But the father's influence,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: I think that's a concern.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: But again, I go, like I said the other day,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: if I'm Bill Belichick, even if I'm the head coach
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Falcons, I want my kids to succeed.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: They're my kids. I want them to succeed no matter
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: where they are, you know, so I'm not going to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: give them negative influence. Okay, that's just my feeling, Like
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I just putting myself in a father's role.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: You know, like I'm talking about the kids. No, I know,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: but like if they hear things that they don't.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Like about Bill, like all to it, I would imagine
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: that after today, after yesterday, there's going to be an
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: organizational effort down there in football to move on from
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Like we're not talking about Bill anymore. It's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: it's a new regime, I know, But I would imagine
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: that they're going to make every effort to move forward.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Now, certainly public facing. I mean, I think, like Paul's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: concern of mine too, is that things used to be
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: like this around here, but this isn't how it's going
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: to be like anything in that game.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Which was basically the entirety of then.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: No, I know, but I think after yesterday that's it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: And I think I think the message to me anyway,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the message it says to me if Steve and Brian
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: stay is they're good coaches, and I don't care who
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: your daddy is. If you're a good coach, we want you,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: you know, and to me, that's a good message to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the rest of the staff.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: That's just my feel I just I can't. I don't
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: think it's going to happen. I just can't get on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: beyond the awkwardness of it all. And like the reports
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: that they're you know, open to coming back, I just
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really believe it. I mean, I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: think that I think that they're I think the organization
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: wants to put forward. Look, they're welcome to stay, but
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: everybody knows like they're going to probably go with Dad.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: And I mean I know, and I think and I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: think the best thing for those guys would go somewhere else.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Just go get a new job, start somewhere out that, you.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Know, get out of, get out of this cycle, get
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: out of don't go to anywhere, don't stay here, go
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: somewhere else.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: But is Steve gonna be able? And I'm just assuming
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: that is Steve gonna be able to go somewhere else
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and be the defensive coordinator because I think he might
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: be here.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: I mean probably not. But I mean they're interviewing people
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: for defensive coordinator too, so of course it's I mean,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know I just I think they do have
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: to interview people, right, Oh yeah, yeah, so but I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: just yesterday that you know, the one thing that stuck
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: out to me and I we we did this already
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: on catch point two.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 14: But just everybody's gone but Bill. I mean, everybody's here
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 14: but Bill. Right, Like it's like so forward facing, like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 14: public facing. Bill was the problem. Like that's the way
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 14: the organization is ending it. Like as I sit there
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 14: and I watch macro and Elliott wolf in the entire
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 14: personnel department walk in and Girod up there with Robert,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 14: the only person that wasn't in the room other than coaches,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 14: but like that's a different type of situation was Bill.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: So like they just are putting this.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: All on Bill.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Well, no, there's a lot of people that weren't in
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the room, Like who Bill O'Brien.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: He said, coaches.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, but the coaches those are Bill's coaches, right, that's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 14: his staff.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And Girod made that very clear. I did not
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 9: hire these people.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 14: So that to me tells me that they really are
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 14: trying to tell us that Bill was the biggest problem.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 14: And they cut the snake off at the head.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he was you know, I think there's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: no doubt that they're saying that are also he'd still
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: be here. But I think that I think you will
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: see new coaches in here.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, but I kind of put the coaches in
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 14: the in the billbox. Well yeah, right, so like it's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 14: all to me, like Bill O'Brien is just an extension
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 14: of Bill, So it's all kind of one.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: But if Bill O'Brien, if they really wanted him, they
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: he'll be back too. Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: I mean I think right now, I don't think it's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: a snapshot. Yeah, I mean, I just think may.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Not want to be here. But I'm just saying that,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: excuse me. If a coach isn't here, it's for the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: most part, it's because they didn't offer him a job.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I I just think we're in a snapshot, a snapshot
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: of time right now. And that's it's hard, and it's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: it certainly does look that way at this particular moment.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: But I still hold out hope that the offensive coordinator
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: hired that the offensive staff, that that's going to inspire
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: some change, and you know, we'll see with Elliot Wolf
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: and Macrol. I mean, there is an element of truth
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: that all these people trained under Bill Belichick and to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: like you don't want to do that. But there's a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: fine line between saying like, look, it was just Bill,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: and now he's out of the way, and now you know.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: But but every time a head coach gets fired, they
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: don't immediately just clear everybody out. There's a process by
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: which who do we keep who who lives. I think
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: it's the same here.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: I just think that I'm going to keep an eye
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: on that because there haven't been any coaches hired yet
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: so except for this one. So I'm going to keep
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: an eye on that because I don't think that's true. Okay,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I think that they're very unique.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 14: Like we were sitting like sitting in that in the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 14: GPA trium, right and the only person that wasn't still
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 14: there was Bill.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I know, we just announced him as a head coach yesterday.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Let's give him a week, you know.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: No, Like, yeah, I'm I'm in between you two guys.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: I understand what you say, thank you for the introduction,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: here's my staff. But the mic part, I agree with
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: you with your mentality on on Stephen Bryant. I kind
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: of think that they're going to stay. Like I'm getting
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: the vibe that they're going to stay. I just I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: don't really, I don't really, I don't understand it. I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: don't understand why you'd want it. And I think that
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: you can make coaches. Yeah, I know that there are
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: other good coaches. They're not the only two good coaches
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: on the planet.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: And if they were such good but if you know that,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: you know who it is is, you know, like yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: like Evan says, they have to interview for all these jobs,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: and they're.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: Going to appoint an actual defensive court.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: No, that's different, the defensive coordinator. And he said very
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: that was probably the strongest thing that he said yesterday
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: is I do believe in titles.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that there's no question that there
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: will be a defensive coordinator.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: What I liked about it, though, is that it acknowledged
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: what Bill was trying to do by not getting titles,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: but without getting into the over the top ridiculousness of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: no one gets to know, like I get it, Like
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: I understand you want you don't want this hierarchy where
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: people are afraid. I understand that inward facing, but you know,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: I thought that was the nuance that jirob pointed out
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: that look, they're important outward facing, and I think we
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: all believe that if you want to go somewhere and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: get a job, other companies need to look at you
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: and see what you did. But you know, but at
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: the same time, I think at least it gave an
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: acknowledgment to why was that in place it was, I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: mean there was a purpose. Did they take it over
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: the top, take it to kind of crazy degree, sure,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: but you know, I like that aspect of how we
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: handled that part.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: Of it all.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: But one more thing I was gonna say too, Paul,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: is like, it's not just the coaches, it's the players,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: Like the players talking crap about Bill and like, you know,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: like Juju walk a mile, like oh man, we didn't
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: do that last year, and then Steve overhears it, you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: like it's well, like Jia will button it up and
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: the coaches staff won't really talk about it anymore, but there's.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: They won't like it's going to hang over the team.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: If you think that more stuff was mentioned about Belichick
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: in a forty minute press conference in front of the world,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: then we'll be walking around on a random Tuesday in
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: the middle of the off season in the weight room.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, his name is going to come up
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: way more behind closed doors than it did yesterday.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 14: Definitely a value in just as much as you can
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 14: with it, promoting somebody from within, starting from scratch, to clean.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: Out all of this.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 14: And I think one of the things that he said
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 14: was that we have to rebuild relationships, which I thought
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 14: was really interesting because I think that goes back to
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 14: like the Badard report that the caller was talking about.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 14: He knows that there are people that aren't on his
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 14: side that are in this building, and he needs to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 14: figure out who those people are. I'm not necessarily saying
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 14: that is Stephen Brian, but it might it obviously look
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 14: like it would be Stephen Brian. Maybe it's Bill O'Brien
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 14: who felt like he should have been the heir apparent.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 9: You know, or whatever. Who knows. But I ultimately that
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: that stood out to me a.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Lot that that's a good takeaway, that comment that he
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: made knowing that there were silos, knowing that there was division,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: no echo chambers, and yeah, and it's my job to
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: repair that now.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 14: Yeah, a lot of it just seemed like it was
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 14: culture related with Bill, like the culture had erosion.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: And weld we talked about that, you know, two years ago,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: what would it take for Bill to have to leave?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: And we talked about the erosion of the locker room?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, absolutely, Freddie.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Michelle in South Carolina. Hey, Michelle, then,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: how are you good?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 18: But your show's not on enough.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Our show's not on enough.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: That's a compliment, as Michelle needs to talk to us
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: every day.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I want to keep you wanting more, though, Michelle, I
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: want to keep you wanting more.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 18: Well, see this is what happens, though I have too
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 18: much to say. Oh okay, hey dude, you looked very
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 18: handsome yesterday.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you got right on that, right on
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: that stream, thanks Michelle.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: This boyish charm. He's married.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: To his database with.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 18: Seve Belichick. I was listening to the guys earlier and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 18: they seem to think he's not going to be highed
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 18: as the defensive coordinator, and that to me seems like
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 18: a reason for him not to stay. But I think
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 18: it would not behoove him to go with Bill, because
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 18: if Bill's not going to be Atlanta in Atlanta, I
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 18: don't think for more than if he goes there two years, right,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 18: I mean, I can't imagine he would be there for
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 18: that long. And to talk about breaking the record, that
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 18: to me is the stupidest thing I heard, because it's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 18: going to get broken by the guy in Kansas City.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: It might be I don't know.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he could win it all this year and retire.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he went there.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: I mean I was thinking this guy, no, but he's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: talked about it the last couple of years.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I agree with your first two points, you know, not
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: having heard you know, they they may not offer him
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: d C. And if they don't, then he would probably leave.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: And I agree with you that if they go with
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  Speaker 1: their father to Atlanta, assuming that's or Bill goes, that
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be the necessarily the best thing for them. So
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  Speaker 1: I agree with those first two things absolutely.
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  Speaker 18: I mean, yeah, because if they're not gonna want to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 18: stay in Atlanta, well they might why.
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  Speaker 3: Not what if it went so well?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Steve Belichick, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What if it went so well that three straight titles
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: he inherits? The teams?
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  Speaker 18: Ask is Bill going here? Because is going to give him?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, we don't know he's going there. Yeah. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I would assume that, you know, knowing where Atlanta is
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: a college football town, Georgia football is ranks way higher
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: than Atlanta Falcons. But by taking a big swing and
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: getting Bill Belichick, you start to become a little bit
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: more relevant. And I think that's the gamble that Arthur
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Blank wants to do in bringing in Bill. So I
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: think if Bill wants more power, he'll get it.
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  Speaker 14: They do have a GM, and they have a yeah,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 14: and they like their rosters like, okay, you know they've
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 14: done a decent job with the roster.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 14: I just I when you look at the musical chairs,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 14: like the music is starting to stop, and Bill's only
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 14: chair really is Atlanta, I know? I mean, Dallas is
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 14: not hiring a new coach.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Paul thinks Philly is still on the I think Philly is.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Still on the table.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 14: At least definitely Philly's still on the table. I would
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 14: agree with that. But at the same time, some of
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 14: their players and the exit interviews and stuff like that,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 14: and on trash back day like one, I think it's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 14: Fletcher Cox like scoffed at a reporter that even suggested
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 14: that Nick Sirianni could be out of a job like
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 14: he was like, that's ridiculous to even talk about, you know,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 14: type of like.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: I've been reading about it a little bit and it's
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: very similar to the way it was set up with Peterson.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: And they wanted some changes to the staff. They brought
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: him in, they wanted a plan. They didn't like his plan. Yeah,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: he didn't like their suggestions and they fired him. So
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe Siriani does what Fred says, but
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: he goes there, goes and gets two more experienced coordinate.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 9: Like they're not giving away roster control from Howie Roseman though,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 9: So if he.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Goes there, he's done a good job. Yeah, Michelle, thanks
• 1:16:07
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  Speaker 9: What's up, everybody?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: Gerard Mayo was introduced as head coach of the New
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: England Patriots yesterday. Let's listen to some of his introductory
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: press conference.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: It's what I think my family first and foremost.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 10: You know, I see a lot of you guys on
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 10: the front row, first two rows, and this has definitely
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 10: been a dream of mine. I know one thing that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: Thunder talked about was I had always been a coach
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 10: in his mind. I would say, I'm a huge believer
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 10: in just developing people, whether it's on the football field,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: whether it's off the football field, in the media world,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 10: in business. My calling is to be a teacher and
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 10: to develop people and help them see pretty much what
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: they don't want to see but they need to see.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: So my job has always been that. That is my calling.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: Becoming a Patriot, it's never really felt like a job.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 10: When I first got here in two thousand and eight,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 10: I was the first round draft pick two thousand and seven.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: You know, you know the season two thousand and seven.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 8: Don't worry about that one.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: But I come into an organization where the culture was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 10: established the people, not only the players, but the people
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: that worked around the building. And I was like, man,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 10: maybe I'm the missing piece, right, So maybe I'm the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 10: missing piece. So I was drafted in two thousand and eight,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 10: and then the first game of the season, first game
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: of the season, Tom Brady gets hurt.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 8: He's out for the year.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: Most people wrote us off that season, but that's when
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: I really had an opportunity to see the culture at work.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: Many people they.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: Look at culture as a retrospective way of either validating
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: success or you know, validating a losing season. I would
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: say here, the culture starts at the top, mister Kraft
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 10: in the family starts at the top, but it also
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: has to permeate throughout the organization. And I've always tried
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 10: to carry that flag for the Craft family. As He's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 10: told you. Look, these guys went at a lot. They
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: went at a lot, and I love in here. I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 10: took a break. I went to Optum. I needed a
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 10: break from Bill. I went to opt them for about
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: four years and I came back and one thing I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: came back with I learned a lot at optim Larry Renfro,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: Mike Matteo, those guys.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: I learned a lot at.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: Optum about diversity, right, about diversity and inclusion. And you
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: better believe it. Being the first black coach here in
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 10: New England means a lot to me. But those guys
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 10: taught me you have to take ideas from other people. Black, white, green,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 10: yellow really doesn't matter, old young. One thing you'll notice
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: about me in our interaction as we continue to go
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: is I don't like echo chambers. I want people around
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: me that are going to question my ideas or question
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 10: the way we have done things in the past, because realistically,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 10: this game is a lot different.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: Than when I was drafted in two thousand and eight.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 10: At the same time, that's why I try to spend
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 10: so much time in developing young men and young women
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: so they know I don't want to teach them, you
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: know what, what to think. I want to teach them
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: how to think. And once we get to that point,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 10: I think we can get back to where we need
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 10: to be at the top. And I'm an open book.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: I'm honored, I'm ready to go, and I'm excited to
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 10: be the next head coach of the Patriots.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: Let's start with UH.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 9: With Mike Breese here in the front row, this question
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: is for Robert.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: There's gonna come a time when you have to turn
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: into draft card and make a pick official or make
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: a signing official. Who will have the final say on
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: those decisions.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well this is his day. We wanna celebrate Jerrod
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 7: taking this position.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 7: What we know, we have a lot of people internally
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: who have had a chance to train and learn under
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 7: the greatest coach of all time and a man whose
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: football intellect is very special. So in the short term.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: We're looking for collaboration as our team has a tremendous
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 7: opportunity to position itself right given our salary cap space.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: And you know, we've never drafted in my thirty years
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: of ownership, We've never been drafting as low as we're drafting,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: So we're counting on our internal people whom we're still
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: learning and evaluating. So we're going to let that evolve
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 7: and develop, and before the key decisions have to be made,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: we will appoint someone and at the same time we'll
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: probably start doing interviews and looking at people from the outside.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: But my bias has always been in all our family
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 7: companies to try to develop a culture from within where
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: we understand one another. I'll just give you a little factoid.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: In the thirty years that we've owned the team today,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: so it's really thirty one, this is the third coach
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: that our family has hired.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 8: In that period.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: There have been two hundred and forty four coaches hired
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 7: in the NFL, which means an average of roughly eight
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: coaches per team, which means there's a turnover every three
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 7: and a half years. And the teams we like to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: get continuity in our company get the most competent people
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 7: and then try to build stability. And so before we
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 7: just rush and hire people, we wanna understand what we
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: have internally. It's a long answer, but an important question in.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: These questions for dried Congratulations thinks it's been reported in
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: recent days you set up interviews for a defensive coordinator
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: position and special teams coordinator position.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: I'm curious if you'll open a search for an.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: Offensive coordinator and if so, what traits and experience will
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: you prioritize.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 10: That's a great question. I would say, just like Thunder
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 10: alluded to, everything's still under consideration. Obviously, the staff that
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 10: I've been working with isn't the staff that I have chosen,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: but everything's under evaluation. One thing I would say with
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 10: all of my coaches is the number one thing is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: developing people. And with this generation, I mean back when
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 10: I first started playing, most of the time guys, you know,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: coach would say something and guys would do it. I
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 10: think with this generation it's about you have to show
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: them that you care about them before you get into
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: you know, competency as far as x's and no's are concerned.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 10: And that's one thing I feel like with all my coaches,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 10: they should know the players. They should know their room
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: better than I do. They're closer, they're closer to those
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: guys and they have that day to day interaction. But
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: to me, whether we're talking offensive coordinator, defensive corder, a
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: special teams coordinator, all that stuff is under eval and
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: my number one thing is I want to bring in developers.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 20: Hi, Gerada, congratulations on the job. Just a thought on
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 20: kind of following that up. Do you plan to officially
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 20: name an offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator special teams? What's your
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 20: vision of what you want from this team, both offensively
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 20: and what we've seen from you defensively?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 9: And will the Belichicks remain on the staff.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: That's like four questions and one only. That's about four
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 10: questions in one.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 16: Uh.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: The first one was what what's the first question?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 7: Again?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 8: Break it down, coordinators. I think it's important.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: I think titles are important, and I know no knock
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 10: to Coach Belichick, who has been a huge mentor to
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 10: me over the years as a player and as a colleague.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 10: What I would say is, I believe titles are important
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 10: outward looking, but as far as in the building, I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 10: don't care what your title is. It's what's your job?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: What value do you bring to the organization? And I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 10: think that's the most important thing. And sometimes I think
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 10: in business and sports people get caught up in titles.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 10: But I also understand the other side. If you want
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 10: to get if you want to continue to get promoted.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: People have to know exactly what you do.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: But like I said earlier, inside, it's all about collaboration.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 10: That's what Thunder talked about, and that's what I'm about
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 10: as well.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 17: Hey, Rod, what's the difficulty of replacing the greatest coach
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 17: of all time and filling those shoes and you know,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 17: honoring and keeping the DNA that he infused and altering
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 17: it in the ways that you see fit.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 10: You know, this organization has had a lot of success
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: over the years for a long time, and there have
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 10: been many teams that, you know, they have one good
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 10: year and then they're out for three years. One thing
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 10: I learned from coaches and from Thunder is about just
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 10: surrounding yourself with good people, right, surrounding yourself with good people. Now,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 10: as far as our staff and things like that, we're
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 10: gonna be good. We're gonna be a lot better now.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: Bill always says this managing expectations for me. I'm not
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 10: trying to be built. I'm not trying to be built.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 10: I think that that Bill is his own man. If
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 10: you can't tell by now, I'm a little bit different
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 10: even up here.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 19: Uh.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 10: But what I will say is, you know, the more
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 10: I think about, the more I think about, like the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 10: lessons that I've taken from Bill. Hard work works, right,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 10: hard work works, and and that's what we're all about.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 8: Hey, Giah, good to see you here.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: And now great moments in history.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like you got to break them into
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: a little ball busting when they're kids, right, Like you
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: got to understand that, like you're gonna joke and I'm
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: not like trying to hurt your feelings.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like we're kind of I would kind
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: of tell your coach, I've got my eye on you.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: I'm watching it.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm looking. And then I would say, yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: your coach asked me to come and you know, give
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: a cradling clinic to the guys.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: You know, that's funny.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: Cradling clinic. Friend Connor was probably in the fact, really in.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: The old house, I used to use the shower downstairs
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: and that's where like he would watch TV with his friends.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: So I come out with a towel, like, you know,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: oh god, his friends would I go, uh hey, Sean,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: did you get those tickets to the gunshot?
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  Speaker 9: And you know, my son's just shaking his head because
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 9: he knows it's coming.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: And the other kid just, you know, walk on.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: It's a masterclass, a master class of dadding. Right, I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: just walk out.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: I gotta start, I gotta start a little bit.
• 1:28:36
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  Speaker 1: Is the email addressed Paul? What is this? Brendan and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Edmonton writes in I just ran on Twitter. He says
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: that Paul is the highest graded on air personality in
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: the Northeast. Congratulations Paul. That's hopefully this enacts your bonus.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: And your contract that was from Boston Cream. Yeah, this
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: is my buddy, this job. I believe they were making
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  Speaker 3: fun of me.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, unfortunately, because you know they have these polls
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  Speaker 1: every once in a while.
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  Speaker 3: Also said I was in my thirty eighth season.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 9: The Channel Market survey or whatever that's called. Dall, we're
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 9: always on that.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice we are you know that right? Yeah, okay, I'm.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Saying necessarily yeah, but I didn't know if that was
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  Speaker 1: and it's something I didn't know about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it should be true.
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  Speaker 3: Is that really coming? Did that really come out today?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So in all seriousness, it's impressive that we're on
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: that because we're not in a category. We're like a
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• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: that I had the raw data, it was like favorite
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• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: give you like like quick Slants was one of the
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: things for you know, Tom Curran's thing. Ours wasn't one
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: of the options, and we got like the third most percentage.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that this past round might have been
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 14: they might have whittled it down now to like favorite
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  Speaker 14: Patriots podcast, Favorite Celtics podcast. But we're definitely unfiltered, definitely
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  Speaker 1: Two and listen to all our listeners. If you are
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• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: and London a bit of a change of topic from
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Bill and Mayo. But I noticed in Mike Reese's Sunday
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: roundup he pointed out two of this year's London teams
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: are on the Patriots schedule. Do you think he was
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: just connecting dots or was it informed speculation? Cough twice
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: if you can't say, but are coming like well if
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: like cough it's not because of that. No, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But usually even before the schedule release, the International Games
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: are sometimes announced, so maybe we'll find out.
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  Speaker 3: And Mike was just pointing out. We actually said that
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: last week on this show that two of the teams
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: that were deemed as hosts for the International Games are
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: opponents for the Patriots. Yeah, road opponents, I wrote, opponents.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: I'd be open to going to London again.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean will we will we do it up?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: Or would that just be kind of like the team and.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: They know it would be the it's not our home
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: market team. Yeah, wouldn't be.
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  Speaker 4: We will we send Patriots on filtered there because the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: fans probably are clamoring for maybe.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe you could go to.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: We definitely have to break back to journey.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: I'd be in year thirty.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Nine your show and listen all the time.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: You guys are hilarious. I want more of that in
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: my life.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: Uh like suddenly turned into like a late seventies like Rocker.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Harry in Connecticut. What's up, Harry? Hey, guys,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 21: Wanted your take on where where is the bar?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 15: For you?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 21: Guys are talking about a last episode? Just you want
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 21: it the progression, whether that's you know, a couple more wins.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 21: You know, I don't know where that that bar is.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 21: I think Robert Kraft on his Don Mao's introduction was,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 21: you know, saying he was very confident that this is
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 21: the guy that he wants. But is he going to
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 21: be very confident if we have a couple more losing seasons?
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 21: Like how long did you give them?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: By question? Yeah, it's a good question.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: Now, I mean at least at least what three years?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would say that's the minimum, but it's
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: it's it's just finding Harry. I think two Yeah, I
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: mean that's fair.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: It would have to be, but it would have to
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: be really what does it look like?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: What's happened?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: You know that would have to look really bad.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's just that feeling of coming out of
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: a season. I mean, we've talked about a bunch of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: times with what the ninety four season, where you know,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: it's like started to come together a little bit, you know,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: you felt like you had something. I think that's just
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: the feeling you want to come out of the season with,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: whether you know, of course you want to be in
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. And you know, I just I'm I'm so
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: impressed with green Bay. Like, I just love how they've
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: built things post FARV and you know how they took
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: care of Ara Shaan Gary and you know, they're I
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: just think they're doing it the right way. They drafted
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: a bunch of wide receivers and they got Jordan Love
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: some time to develop and they you know, stuck with
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: him and you know.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 9: He's a green Bay Packers.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: That's the only way to make a quarterback succession plan
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: is to draft one four years.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Before your and you happen to have a Hall of
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Famer in place.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, but I know, but that's not even for me.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: It's Patriot situation.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: I know, I know, but it's just you know, it's
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: the two tight ends last year, it's the two receivers,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: it's Christian Watson's here, and you know and it's like, look, wow,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: what happens in.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 14: Todays are the Patriots could have easily been the green
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 14: Bay Packers in a different universe, Like they could have
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 14: had all the players that that green Bay currently is
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 14: in the playoffs with. Could all I mean not all,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 14: but you know what, you know, all their young core,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 14: Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: They were all available.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 9: Comes down to they have the receiver Jane.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you pronounce his first name?
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: J Jayden read Red?
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: Would you have would you come up with?
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 9: Jordan Love?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 14: Was John Jarren Jordan twenty I think twenty twenty draft.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 14: So they ended up they took Kyle Dugger, they ended
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 14: up trading out, and I think Jordan Love went like
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 14: twenty sixth I.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: Think you're right. It's just like it's the simple equation.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: When you draft well, you can do things like I
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: don't think if the Patriots, if Jordan Love was the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: quarterback of the Patriots last year, I think they might
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: have gone four and thirteen. I'm like, maybe they would
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: have won a couple more games. But he they he's
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: developed well, and I do think that something to be said.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: I don't think you have to sit as long as
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: Rogers in love set like you can sit a year,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: you don't have to hit three. Yeah, but they also
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: have done with Mike said, those young guys around him
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: Mos have been pretty and Aaron Aaron Jones is a pretty.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 9: Good back, like they have.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: They have some good talent. Now the defense is a
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: train wreck that I don't know what Dallas did last
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: week because that that guy Joe Barry has been like
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you follow anybody like outside, like
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: that guy that you guys were with, Aaron Nagler. Nagler,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, does he destroyed Joe Barry every single week?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like Joe Barry is one week he's fired,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 14: the next week he's he's back. But like it's very
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 14: sea sawing with him. He runs that that fangio too
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 14: high safety type of defense.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: But I told you what happened. Paul del Rio, Green
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: Bay got a call from a certain freelance head coach
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: about how to attack Denver Dallas's offense.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: It didn't work, and it didn't work. He didn't get
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: him out.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: No, but now I have the second part of that.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Dallas found out about that.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, and they're like, we're not jokes on you. We're
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: not even gonna fire him to mind us.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: So can I ask a serious question and there's no
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: answer to it, Just wondering what you guys all think.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: Do you think Jerry Jones reached out at all to
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Bill or do you think there was any communication between
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: Jerry Jones and Bill at all?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 9: I think maybe a little bit.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: But if that happened, don't you think it'd be out there?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: It would get out somehow with Bill?
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 9: I mean, it just depends on what they like.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 14: A text is a text, right, like with a conversation,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 14: and there's different lines.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming Bill still has an agent, right, I.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 14: Think he has somebody that helps him with the number
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 14: the actual I don't think he has an agent. It
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 14: was Neil Cornridge, but I don't think that they I
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 14: don't think he's formally You know what agents do is.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: They want people to think my client is in demand,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: so they get this stuff out there so other teams know.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 14: I am sure there is somebody, whether it's Neil Cornridge
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 14: still or somebody else that's doing Bill's bidding.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not, Maybe they didn't reach out.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't I don't have the answer.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: I just thought it was interesting, Like, yeah, do you
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: think that maybe Jerry Jones, like, because you can make
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: an argument on a lot of different sides to make
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Jerry Jones said, Okay, you know we're gonna stick with
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: McCarthy because I reached out to Bill. He wasn't really interested, right,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: you know? Or like Jerry Jones has a reputation for
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: being pretty patient with his coaches. He does like he
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't you know, Jason, Jerry stuck around for a long
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: time when people thought every year he was going to
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: get fired.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: See Ioways shot that up to Jerry doesn't really want
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: another Jimmy Johnson.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want a strong He wants a puppy.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: He really wants to be in charge and he doesn't
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: want to And as long as my coach is doing
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: what I tell him to do, leave him there.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: You didn't hear big Jim did a bit on this yesterday.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: He did the fake call. Did you hear it? You
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: know I'm talking about you heard it? Just too good,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: so funny.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: And then when he breaks in, when he breaks character
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: and he goes back to his own voice like in
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: the middle of it. Number one I'll give you my
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: number one.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: I give my number one.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: Whore what it's going to take.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: Bill, Like.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Colin Denver writes in I'm extremely disappointed with Robert's decision.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: I wanted a fresh start. But if Robert had interviewed
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: several candidates and considered all the options before concluding that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: the best head coach candidate was Mail, then I would
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: have accepted that crafted his due diligence and made a
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: well informed decision. But this, I mean, come on, he
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: didn't even try to pretend that he was looking for
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: the best candidate. He just picked the guy who was
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: in front of him. I sure hope Mayo makes this
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: email look stupid over the next few years, but I
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: don't have any reasons to believe that he will. I'm
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: telling you, Cole, if you didn't hear the beginning of
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: the show, my advice to you is, in Robert Kraft's
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: eighty two years of existence, his instincts have served him well.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: And he said yesterday that he basing this decision on
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: his instincts. And I'm taking some solace in that. I'm,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: you know, hoping that that works out like it has
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: in the past.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Fred is reminding me of like Jess Up and in
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: a few good men, it's like, you know, please tell
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: me you've given them something other than my favorite color.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: You know, two marines lives are at stake here yet, right,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: you know, and like friends like well, Robertson's thinks have
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: never failed over the past.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 14: I just I would say that I've talked to a
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 14: lot of people at this point about Girard and like
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 14: everybody that knows Gerard or knew Gerard when he was
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 14: a player, like nobody's surprised that he that he were here,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 14: Like nobody's surprised by it.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and that's a good point. You know,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Cole for example, and there are others are not happy
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: with Robert didn't talk to a lot of other candidates.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: But that's not to say that Robert didn't talk to
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of people about Gerard, and in that he
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: it became an informed decision, like I have a good
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: feeling about this guy, but I'm gonna make sure. And
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: maybe he talked to dozens of people about Gerard.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 14: May I mean there's people that said to me that
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 14: he was born to be the Patriots head coach, Like literally,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 14: those are the words out of their mouths, like, I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 14: don't know if he's going to be a good coach
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 14: or not, but the fact is is.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 9: That he he has like some sort of gravitas, and I.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Can I agree with it. I think he's you know,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: when he was talking yesterday, he commanded the room. I
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: think there's something to that. We've been told that about
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: the shared defensive coordinator thing, that he delivers the message
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: because he's better at it than Steve, you know, so
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: you could see some of that yesterday. I don't have
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: any issue with the selection only My only question was
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: just I just I didn't necessarily need to have people
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: he talked to about Gerard. I wanted him to talk
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: to other people about other ways of doing things. I
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: get it, that's all. I'm just if you wanted to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: pickture Odd. I love the guy. I mean, I think
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: he's a strong presence. I'm like you said at the
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: very top of the show, Mike, it's like refreshed.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: But Jarrod basically said, we're going to do things differently.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 14: We just need to see the people that put I
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 14: have no problem whatsoever with Gerrod Mayo. I think he's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 14: a really good coach, a really good person. I think
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 14: he is a head coach. I think he's head coach material.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 14: But who's who's making personnel decisions? Who's the offensive coordinator?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 14: Like I don't necessarily worry as much about the defense
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 14: because that's his expertise, But they're if they're going to
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 14: draft a quarterback third overall, who the offensive coordinator is
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 14: is humongous, Like that is such a huge deal.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: I did it again. Who's the you know, the decision makers?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: To your point, how are they determining which one of
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: these three? You know, Like when you guys were finishing
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: up catch twenty two, you know, Alex was saying, you know,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: it's one of the three, and you know, I don't
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: want that. Yeah, I don't want them to say, oh,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: I'd be happy with any of the three. I want
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: them to identify the one that they like the best. Yeah,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: and then if they if they can get them. Now,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: maybe you can't, maybe maybe you don't think the trade
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: is worth it, right if you can't guarantee that that
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: that one is going to be available. But I don't
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: like the idea of I'd be happy with any of
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: those three. Because now we're into the Felger part of it,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: where yeah, there'll be four or five guys taken and
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: one or two and the will be able to play,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: you know. And I think that if you look at
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: the history, the third quarterback taken isn't generally great, right yeah, true,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: h QB three. As as the kids like this, just yea,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: we got two picks.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh my god? All right, just one one
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: quick thing, just a little business related things. In the past,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: we had a show where somebody called up and gave
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: us some Ben Johnson anecdotes about it.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: Turns out it was really a bad guy.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: No, according to this guy Josh and Edmonton. That's a
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: whole Reddit thing. And they think it's people from Detroit,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Detroit who didn't want to lose him putting that out there.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: I so we might have gotten played a little.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 9: This guy Jared playing like we didn't.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we made fun of it. We made fun
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: of the guy I did anyway, I know, But we
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: gave him a platform.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 9: Jared Jared Goss playing like an m v P. And
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 9: that's Jared Goff.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: So I gotta be a better story.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: Goff can't play. You have to listen to my shows more.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 9: He can't. He's well, they think everybody besides.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: Like correct home and he doesn't count because he was tenth.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: This gotta be a better story to make up about
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: why Ben Johnson's a bad guy than he stood up
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: in front of like his kids play and was like
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: watch my kid. Like that's just that.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 9: Should have been the first do you remember?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: What do you remember at the time? And listen, I
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: get duped by these things all the time. Andy Hart
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: called into the show. I didn't know it was Andy
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Hart Rogers, so I get I get duped on this crap.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: All the time.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't buy that one for a second.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's like when what's her name didn't know that
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 14: it was her It was Donnie Wahlberg and the Mass singer.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it should have been like he stole my wife
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: from me, you know, like something like.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: I saw Donny on the Singer and Jenny didn't know
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: it was him.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: Oh that's funny, Yeah, it is funny.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, all right, maybe that was a bit, you know, maybe.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: I always love when they do the reveal it's like, oh,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: it's Evan Lazare from Catch twenty two and of course
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered, like they have to tell you everything about
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: the time Grammy Winner seven.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 9: Time, Oscar.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: I don't watch mask Singer, so I have no interest.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: All right, So we had we had a ton of emails,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: a ton of calls. We can't get to them all.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I apologize, but we'll be back next week. But it
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: is pickstime and Alex isn't here.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know what she is.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: I know, I wonder why. I wonder why Alex is.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: There's a reason, there is a reason, and as we suspected,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: I will get to the the results from last week,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: and you can put two and two together as to
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: where Alex is. Fred. It's time to separate the men
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: from the boys. Playoff time Fred five and one, Fred,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: followed by Paul at four and two, always second place,
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  Speaker 3: Mike and Evan three and three, and well the.
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  Speaker 4: Queen Alex two and four.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, now is the time that it really counts.
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  Speaker 9: This is her turn, you know, this is her denarious moment, like.
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  Speaker 8: She just.
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  Speaker 3: With the spread. Paul four and two and everybody else
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: was three and three. Okay, all right, perfectly, So I
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  Speaker 3: did I did touch I did touch base with Alex,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: and I have her picks. I will put them in between,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Like why is she she's working on a RKK thirty anniversary.
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  Speaker 1: She couldn't take fifteen minutes to do this.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you for. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what I do. I don't know what kind of
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: department you guys are up there?
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  Speaker 1: All right, rugs. The first game is Sounds like You
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  Speaker 1: Do Saturday at four thirty. This is on ESPN, ABC,
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  Speaker 1: ESPN plus ESPN Deportes.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It is the ten and seven Texans at the thirteen
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  Speaker 1: and four Rave.
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  Speaker 3: Baltimore war by nine and a half. Oh wow, oh jeez,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: oh jeez.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big playoff number.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Baltimore to win, but I'm gonna
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: take nine and a half points to Cleveland. They're they're
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: they're feisty.
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  Speaker 9: Clevelan's at home.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Houston, Houston, thank you. I'll still take that.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna write down Cleveland another would give a loss.
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  Speaker 3: I'm no, it's also Baltimore, but she'll take the points.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I think that
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 14: the Ravens might come out a little bit what's the
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  Speaker 14: word like nervous, No, like more like nervous because they
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  Speaker 14: have a lot of at steak. You know, Lamar has
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  Speaker 14: never really wanted the playoffs, and they have a lot
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 14: of steak, so I think that they might come out
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  Speaker 14: a little a little nervous.
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  Speaker 3: Evan's gonna probably explain to me why I'm wrong on this,
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  Speaker 3: probably because I have nothing, nothing empirical to add on this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Baltimore and I'm gonna take the points. Also,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: I know the Ravens defense statistically is off the charts?
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  Speaker 3: Am I wrong to think? I don't really understand how Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's quote unquote it's good. I'm not
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: telling you it's not good. I watched them play against him.
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  Speaker 3: I watched them play against San Francisco when I thought
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: they played really well that night. But I've seen them
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  Speaker 3: play a few other times and I haven't really noticed.
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  Speaker 9: Yea, and being there defensive coordinator is the balls?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that guy knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: So I will take the points though, because I think
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  Speaker 3: I think c J. Stroud, I think that group. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if the weather's supposed to be a factor.
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  Speaker 9: But I like it's going to be a factor in Detroit.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I like that Bobby Slowic offense. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: take the points here.
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's what you have. First of all, what's the
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: weather going to be like in Baltimore?
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  Speaker 3: I just asked that I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: When when the when the points centers give you such
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: a big spread nine and a half in the playoffs,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: you have to Yeah, the sharps know something. The Sharps
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: know something. So this is where you know, you accept
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: the points. Paul, Well, you accept the spread and you
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  Speaker 1: take the Ravens both way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a long way to Grandmaselfs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ravens both ways in this game because the
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: Sharps know something. It you know it should it should?
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: You know, raise the red flag when you see that
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: biggest spread. That's because the Sharps know something. So you
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  Speaker 1: go with the Ravens both ways. Eight fifteen Fox and
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: by the way, Fox Deportist they have at the Portaste too,
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  Speaker 1: nine and eight. Packers are at the twelve and five
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco by nine and a.
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  Speaker 4: Half, nine and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Again, Buffalo was fared by ten last week.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I I I'm gonna that made sense though, it
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  Speaker 9: was amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna listen to Fred's advice from that
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  Speaker 4: last from his last rent right there, I'll take San
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  Speaker 4: Francisco and I'm actually gonna lay the points.
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  Speaker 14: I'm gonna take the Niners both ways. I think that
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 14: you know, historically, the Niners have owned the Packers in
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 14: the playoffs, right, That's that's true, But that was what
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 14: Ann Rodgers.
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  Speaker 9: I still think it's the Niners.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 14: I just I'm not totally so old that Jordan Love
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 14: is about to like put the team on his back
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  Speaker 14: and bring him on a run.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think they're gonna run like that against
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: the Niners. Alex also has the Niners both ways. I'm
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: going to join the boys and in Alex be like.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 14: That Niners Seahawks game last year, where like it's close
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 14: at half and then the blew him out in the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 14: second half.
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  Speaker 1: Here's where you have to you have to look at
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: the hot team in the playoffs, and right now, how
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: can you argue that it's not the Packers.
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  Speaker 9: We've only played one week, all right, but.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: They beat they beat a highly the top seed right now,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: the second seed. We beat the second seed, so still
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: very good.
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  Speaker 3: They're the only team that pulled an.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Upset, so forty nine ers win, but they don't.
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  Speaker 3: It's the only road team, right, only road team wins.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: There's the only road team to win.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, Sorry Sharps didn't know something on this.
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  Speaker 1: One, right, This is where the forty nine ers are
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: overvalued in the market. In the market, why get them
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: waving all? They trying to bring in the Green Bay money.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 9: You real base are upset the Niners and I am
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 9: never going to end with But the Green.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Bay people aren't notorious betters, so they're trying to bring
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: in the Green Bay you know.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: So you have to you have to know who's still
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: going to do it.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: You have to know how the Sharps think and how
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: the betting houses think.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know how they think.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: Are you going to make a pick or not?
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Good?
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  Speaker 4: He did?
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  Speaker 1: I like when Paul gets yeah for the forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers win, but they don't cover Okay, all right, I'm
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: just trying to give you know, our listeners some into.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: Sight zoned out in the middle of that wisdom with
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: the you know these people are.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: I apologize for talking over then I do not Sunday
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  Speaker 1: we move on to Sunday three o'clock. This is on
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  Speaker 1: NBC Peacock and Universo the Cock.
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  Speaker 3: This is on NBC on Sunday, Brand and Spice Channel.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: That's rare Sunday afternoon on NBC.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: The old Interview. Yeah, nine and eight Buccaneers are at
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: the twelve and five Lions.
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  Speaker 3: Destroys by six and a half. Supposed to be cold Detroit.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: They're gonna turn that.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 9: They're prepping.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: I know, I know to what you are referring that was.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: That was pretty funny. Every reporter's nightmare, right like, just man,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: it's just one of those weird games. I'm gonna take
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: Detroit and I'm gonna just what the point six and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: a half. Hey, I'm gonna do it now, you know
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: what I'm not. I'm gonna take Detroit, but i'm gonna
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: take the points for Tampa. My apologize.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: I have crossouts. Okay, Alex also has Detroit with Tampa
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: to the points.
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  Speaker 14: I'm gonna take Detroit both ways, and I've been you know,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 14: Dan Campbell is not my thing, Okay. I'm not a
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 14: kneecaps guy. I'm not a red face motivator type of
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 14: coach type of guy. But I'll give him some props.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 14: You know, he's he's winning me over a little bit.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 14: I think those he's got that. That team pretty buttoned up.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 14: So I'm going to take the Lions both ways. It's
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 14: a nice draw for the Lions though, to get the Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 3: He yes, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Huge, it's great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to take the Lions both ways too.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of pressure on them
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: last week. They were able to get the win. I
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: think they play a little looser and then who knows
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: getting the conference championship game.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Ye, here's where the books got it right. Lions both ways, Lions, Yep,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: the run of Baker comes to an end. Although I'll
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: be rooting for Baker to Actually, this is a tough
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: game for me. I want I like both teams right now.
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  Speaker 9: The Lions might be the most fun team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my like.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed the Rams game, but it was frustrating because
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: I was rooting for both teams to score every time.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I love watching Baker bake, but I think the Lions
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: went Uh. Now we go to six thirty, six thirty
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  Speaker 1: Game of the Weday Night on CBS and Paramount Plus.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 9: You gotta have Paramount, you got a plus, got to
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 9: plus it up.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven and six Chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: None of these games are on that stuff, right, No,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: I don't regular.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think any of them are.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven and six Chiefs. No historic games, Paul. That was embarrassing.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: They no historic games with like eighty million people watching, right,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: It's eleven and six Chiefs at the eleven and six Bills.
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo by two and a half. Oh by far and away.
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  Speaker 3: The closest weather it.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: Could be a factor in this game.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: They're getting more Yeah, they're supposed to get more snow,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: but they think they'll be okay to have the game.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have to cancel it.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: They they said it's a great this is a great game.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: This is a fun one. Lot of storylines, a lot
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: of history between these teams recently. And I like Buffalo
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: to get over the home at home against Kansas City.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: Send Taylor Swift home. I mean, tough day for Taylor
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: Swift there in Buffalo. I'll take Buffalo, lay the points.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: Alex also takes Buffalo both ways.
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  Speaker 14: I'm taking the Chiefs until the Chiefs lose. I just
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 14: am going to ride the Chiefs. I think that you
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 14: have the best quarterback. I think they have the best coach,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 14: and they're gonna keep riding it until maybe, you know,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 14: I just don't think Buffalo is good enough to really
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 14: mask those weaknesses of Kansas City to make those come out.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take the Bills or excuse me, the Chiefs. Yeah,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's a logical. I'm going to pick Buffalo
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: at home. But yeah, I think betting against Kansas City
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: is not wise.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 9: I just can't.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 14: I'm just not sold that the Bills are are gonna
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 14: get over the hump, like they're the Bills.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: And I also and I also would have like Kansas
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: City is kind of a different team that you know,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: they contend to run Pa Checko between the tackles and
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: all of those guys being out for the Bills. They
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: lost a lot of guys during that game. I don't
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: know who's coming back, who's going to be able to play.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: If Bernard can play, that's a big loss. They're already down.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: Liked h Klein is out there playing like the whole
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: second half last week. But I'm I'm just gonna bet
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: on Josh Allen to get it done.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 14: Isn't this a game though? That's like the Chiefs have
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 14: become tough. Like the Chiefs are of a good defense,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 14: good offensive line. It's kind of like some of the
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 14: Patriots teams you know later on in Brady's career, like
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 14: eighteen Patriots right, where like it's not all this like
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 14: forty point offense anymore, more like.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: The three Patriots.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah sure.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 14: But the Bills, I just I feel like they're soft, right,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 14: and I feel like the Chiefs are just going to
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 14: bully them.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't think the Bills was soft last week though.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: Did you watch that game? No?
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 9: But I think they just were playing a tomato.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: My instincts are quite what Robert crafts are. They're up there,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: but not quite I think. And my instincts tell me
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs win this game.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: Wow, that panel is Yeah, so.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: This is one like the Kansas City, I mean, the
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: the Rams Detroit game. For me, like I normally would
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: root for both of these teams if they were playing
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: someone a great game.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: You just want to see both teams succeeds.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 9: This is when I started against Allen. Yeah, I know
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 9: I don't need the Bills, wouldn't it.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: I just like watching Mahomes and Josh Allen play, so
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: I enjoy that you're the real winner. I like watching offense.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: Is it that late?
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: I have a meeting?
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: Allow me to Okay, we can.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: Go, so the picks are in uh, and we'll see
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: what happens. I can't wait. Good weekend of football and
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: we will see everybody next Tuesday, unless we need to
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: have an emergency podcast, which is an out of the question.
• 1:56:30
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