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Breaking down INSANE Bears win over Bengals in Week 9 · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

0:00
[SPEAKER_00]: What in the world did we just have to go through?
0:03
[SPEAKER_00]: The Wendy City Pot, and you see in that Alex Shapiro, I'm kind of Davis, the Bears Winning Cincinnati, 47 or 42, and man, it was definitely a humb-dinger.
0:15
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the Bears defense played terrible for the most part, allowing old man Jack Jo Flacco to throw for almost 500 yards everybody.
0:24
[SPEAKER_00]: A lead, Jo Flacco's a lead.
0:26
[SPEAKER_00]: 470 to be exact, 4TD's, 200 exceptions, and a QBR 109.
0:32
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to our QB in a minute, all right?
0:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the Bengals have the best wide receiver tandem of football, and it's showed all along during this game.
0:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears injuries on the back end also popped out.
0:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But when it comes to the defense, I have to get your thoughts, Alex, because we're not going to the open of this show.
0:49
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going straight defense.
0:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Both defense is play well, but we don't report on the Kansas City.
0:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Cincinnati Bengals or their defense.
0:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Alex, your thoughts on how the bears defense play this afternoon.
1:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
1:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, that's just tough.
1:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I'm doing it.
1:07
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one word for it, man.
1:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like a cardiac.
1:11
[SPEAKER_01]: type game and what's interesting is I kind of joke about Joe Flacco being a lead right off of off the top you you listen to stats it was kind of a joke but it's kind of like JK but seriously since Joe Flacco has come to Cincinnati he has rejuvenated that offense and you knew it was going to be a problem
1:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But in my mind, it was like, okay, they're not going to be able to guard Jamar Chase, you know, CJ Gardner Johnson can help in the middle.
1:47
[SPEAKER_01]: If they move them to the slot, just that the other thing.
1:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually think CJ Gardner Johnson had a pretty good game.
1:52
[SPEAKER_01]: As, as his in his bears debut, he wasn't the one getting towards silver and over.
1:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But who is T, Higgins?
2:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness.
2:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness.
2:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's here's the other thing, Kenneth, that is interesting.
2:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of figured, again, heading in, we knew Joe Flacco would revitalize this offense, Jamar Chase so good, but if you had told me, the bears will completely shut down Chase Brown.
2:24
[SPEAKER_01]: The run game has not been good, but if they can completely shut down the run game and make the Bengals one dimensional, I would have thought, okay, that's a decent path to victory because yes, Joe Flacco is going to get his yards.
2:41
[SPEAKER_01]: The unbelievably talented Bengals, white receivers and T-higgins and Jamar Chase are going to get there yards.
2:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But you could probably force a mistake or two, and this has been a takeaway, prone team, and if you can shut down the run, that should help to pass rush.
2:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be, it'll be a path to victory.
3:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But my goodness.
3:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They made the bangles one dimensional, and Joe Fleck was like, yeah, absolutely, no problem.
3:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I got this.
3:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, he had the two interceptions, one of them,
3:15
[SPEAKER_01]: was the desperation heave so you can you can that can get tossed out that get tossed a row that at the window tremendous made a great play that should have should have
3:27
[SPEAKER_00]: No shield though when oh, I'm sorry.
3:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
3:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get what you said should've sealed the win It but he was touchdown.
3:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He was all right, but even then.
3:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like get a first down.
3:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Get a question and that's I mean the defense was tough.
3:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll I'll let's you take him from there But like my goodness that that's I can bury they need help
3:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk about their emotion, you just talked about attached to the German, Edmunds, Interception, and if you didn't watch the game, which I'm sure everybody watched the game, which he took back for a pick six, everyone, right?
4:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The feeling of man,
4:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe whoever has the ball at the end of this game will win.
4:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But the bears were starting to stack up points to the point that was like, all right, the bears are going up two scores.
4:13
[SPEAKER_00]: What are they going to do with three, four minutes left and the bears have two scores?
4:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And at least the offense is going to, and mind you, the bears when you're talking about a time of possession was waxing the bangles, but it didn't matter because the greatest show on Earth was transferred to Cincinnati and they were scoring at,
4:31
[SPEAKER_00]: This man had three plays for a touchdown at the end of the game.
4:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Three plays, it was, was it a pass the Brown, another pass, then in some pass and see Higgins, which in some of the T Higgins catches, the one where Nesha Wright should have got a pass in a ferret's call, don't him up the sideline.
4:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And he kept, first I thought Nesha Wright tiped it to his hand, but the C T Higgins doing that, and I think about how he had the fees been fighting for his money all this time.
4:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to get back to that point.
5:01
[SPEAKER_00]: you have that play and I'm like man this is out at that point I'm like the bear's defense wasn't good today but man these situational episodes that they really kind of stood out that was going to be like the cream at the games ended there
5:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have been like defense didn't play well, but the showed up, right?
5:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Little did we know the game was just beginning at that moment?
5:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Just kidding, it was just, we didn't know Joe Flacco was going to score 15 points in 49 seconds, a little while later after that, and to go from that high Alex.
5:34
[SPEAKER_00]: to then go from, all right, think how to get on a psychic.
5:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, there's no way they're going to get on a psychic, but in my brain, I'm like, you're getting so bad.
5:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get this on a psychic, right?
5:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you see it and it's like, okay, it's short.
5:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But you saw the ball bounce back.
5:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, I think the bears hit that ball right there.
5:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, never.
5:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're praying, praying during the scrum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That perhaps the bears have to ball.
6:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's one thing.
6:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Now again, Common Sense tells you, Joe Flacco, the great, and been able to score at Will during this game, and that he was going to be able to pull that off again.
6:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So to go from that point of what looked like a pick six with the defense, corraling, admins, sweats, pushes Flacco away, the last second, to go from there to they were, the bangles were up.
6:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that was crazy.
6:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then we'll get into the office.
6:30
[SPEAKER_00]: The how it was sealed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that when we say when we get into the office is out of it.
6:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to leave you with something nice because it was a victory.
6:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're not going to just poop all over the whole entire thing.
6:41
[SPEAKER_00]: But Dennis Allen and first of all, they were, I want to say this.
6:44
[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, having those many injuries in the back, your back end is going to affect your team, right?
6:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right.
6:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Colle Gordon is a huge factor.
6:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Colle Gordon has been available sometime during the last couple of seasons, but you see
7:00
[SPEAKER_00]: how different even under Matt Eberflue's how the defense played and even briefly with few games or a couple games under Dennis Allen, how well particularly defense coordinator likes to pressure with his nickel and his defensive backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A guy like that, how the Gordon has already showed that he was a guy good with pressure and everything else that he can do well in the slot.
7:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But that that really picked up, but also, and I'll say this,
7:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing that I said was, I know they're not getting pressure, but she got to put flack on and ground a couple of times to test out that AC joint.
7:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Focco's AC joint was spraying.
7:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He got shot up prior to the game.
7:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's partially why, even though he's older, he couldn't get the ball into the inzone on the Hail Mary.
7:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, ages is a factor, but we all know it used to be bazooka Joe coming out of Delaware.
7:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that defense from the front four to the back end left much to be desired, Mr.
8:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it did, and I think what was, and especially disappointing performance, and we should add the caveat that we always do doing these instant reaction podcasts, neither Kenneth nor myself have ever watched the game.
8:14
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just watching it on TV.
8:16
[SPEAKER_01]: This is our first go at it.
8:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But that first go at it.
8:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyreak Stevenson's return seemed like it was going to be a huge,
8:25
[SPEAKER_01]: boost for this defense.
8:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That was running awfully thin at quarterback.
8:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyre Stephenson up to this point had in my opinion had a really, really great season.
8:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We're showing improvements in past coverage was doing the playmaking that the bears saw when they drafted him.
8:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, he just got torched
8:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyre Stevenson was on the opposite end of a lot of those receiving yards.
9:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is part of what makes the performance in the secondary.
9:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So just appointing now, as you said, it's a lot harder to cover when you got to cover a long time because nobody is getting out.
9:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,
9:22
[SPEAKER_01]: D.A.
9:22
[SPEAKER_01]: did send some blitzes, right?
9:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw CJ Gardner Johnson get home on a blitz.
9:27
[SPEAKER_01]: D.A.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dennis Allen tried some more disguised coverages like we've seen in the past where he brings a linebacker and he drops a defensive lineman in the coverage.
9:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw that again.
9:38
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bengals
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna picking that stuff up for the most part.
9:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And Joe Flacco, who has seen everything because I'm pretty sure he played in the year of the NFL AFL merger.
9:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how long he's been in the league like he's been in this league forever.
9:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He has seen everything.
9:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot harder to fool Joe Flacco than it is to fool JJ McCarthy, for instance, who the bear's faced in week one.
10:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, again like hats off to Joe Flacco who is a gamer who who is really good, but the bears are missing Jalen Johnson.
10:23
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears are missing with Kyler Gordon.
10:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They are missing a pass rush.
10:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Dom Rob.
10:29
[SPEAKER_01]: who I know you know a lot of people like what is Dominique Robinson do on this football team Dominique Robinson is actually been a pretty solid rotational past russia for this team this year I think the team is Dominique Robinson and I know we did not go Dom Rob.
10:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the air is the list of the reasons why they got torques today.
10:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We did not go Dominique Rob.
10:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what also shout out awesome book or who made his 20 25 NFL NFL debut.
10:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He made his 20 25 bears debut.
10:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd been out Pretty sure knee injury for practically All a lot of of the year.
11:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He missed every single game.
11:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He missed some time over the summer as well
11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He got that huge force fumble, right?
11:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed like a game where whoever made a singular play on defense first was going to win.
11:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He made one of the two plays that were made on defense, right?
11:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Tramade Edmunds had the interception that should've sealed the win.
11:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome booker had that huge forced fumble.
11:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That set up a bear's feel go.
11:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, oh wow, there was a stop, there was a stop here.
11:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, that bears, that bears defense was bad.
11:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we have to do like the bears do good, better, best.
11:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We might have to do bad, ugly, and then exciting because this bad as the bears defense was, it really wasn't even the worst part of that game.
11:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't even think was the main reason to got so, so, norley at the end, Kenneth.
12:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a feeling you know where I'm driving this thing.
12:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you do have anything more to say
12:10
[SPEAKER_01]: on the really, really atrocious defensive performance.
12:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw from both teams today.
12:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, just a little bit.
12:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned CJ Garder Johnson with the sack, uh, uh, sweat, also, uh, got it.
12:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to sweat, got to sack.
12:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And you talked about the Austin Booker, uh, fumble, um, one thing I want to point this out to being fair.
12:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, being someone that I think they then saw it was a good selection to be the bear's defensive coordinator.
12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you, with such a savvy veteran in Alex was just eloquently pointing out referring to Joe Flacco and no bullshit.
12:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That's he's nice.
12:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He's tall.
12:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He physically used to be better, but when you're that, when you have that type of cannon, you still have a nice cannon even in an older age.
12:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, always been a smart quarterback.
12:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is when you're in a situation where your defensive backfield is shot from injuries and you have to bring extra pressure.
13:07
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you bring extra pressure because now your weakness, your defensive backfields, you're going to have guys who don't usually play single duck on the best receiver tandem within NFL.
13:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw when they didn't bring blitz and those guys were on those guys, that those guys was beaten going through zones and still finding themselves open.
13:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So that I want to point that out.
13:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
13:30
[SPEAKER_00]: what you can do I'm still you can still be a starter defense and you have to find something when it comes to that front floor where I don't know I think it's pine the sky not to say they won't make a trade also like what's the what what's the goal for this year or whatever and looking at the cap but you have to find something because at least if you had the weakness of the defensive backfield playing bad due to injury or at least we hope due to injury.
13:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You would be creating pressure and shortening them out of time with those defensive backs have to stay on wide receivers and you would probably create turnovers even with those guys being out I wanted to say this to the Tariq Stevenson part before I believe you're going to run hot towers phase at a football
14:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, which man.
14:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it was nothing worse than, and I'm a, I'm a, I'm a Toree Stevenson, uh, come back guy, right.
14:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the narrative.
14:24
[SPEAKER_00]: But when the broadcast team was talking about how great he is, I was like, oh man.
14:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I believe he's a good player and he has a high ceiling and as you said he was coming back from injury But and I know when they were saying he's the bear's best corner.
14:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying that with I guess the knowledge of Jalen Johnson is out, but still the
14:49
[SPEAKER_00]: the what they were throw heaping upon him was like yo he's not he's nice he's getting nice but slow it down and then he was exposed by a nice receiver tentacle please take it to the third phase and where you're going to go with uh man this this side of the ball has been really bad majority at least the last five four five games easily to open the game with a kick return
15:14
[SPEAKER_00]: is, um, that's ridiculous.
15:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and imagine if you lost it, but to open the game and I believe let me just give Charlie Jones ran it all the way back on that ass.
15:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago, local guy, local guy, right across the street, you know, he's getting wet, he gets his wet, he gets his back ties, he gets his back ties, he knows exactly.
15:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
15:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, as you said, special seems to have been a problem pretty much all season long, and it's something that we've kind of talked about like, hey, kick coverage isn't good.
15:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what's going on with Tory Taylor?
15:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy who's been supposed to punt really good.
15:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and he finally had a good punt, and it was, you know, taken away by a penalty.
16:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And the bears for the most part have been able to soldier through that bad third phase.
16:10
[SPEAKER_01]: because of running the ball real well, solid drives or big takeaways on defense, they've been able to make splash plays to cover up that third phase.
16:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Today was borderline a nuclear meltdown on special teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As you said, it starts with the kickoff.
16:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just like got it stayed bad.
16:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say it got worse because how do you get worse?
16:39
[SPEAKER_01]: They're giving up a 98 yard kickoff touchdown to start the game.
16:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But Punt team again, like okay.
16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Tori Taylor had he didn't punt much.
16:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a career long like 70 something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Punt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.
16:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Good job.
16:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But Cairo Santos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who has been money, his entire is entire bears career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most accurate kicker in Bears franchise history.
17:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, Bears had some issues letting pressure up the middle and there were some blocks, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bears lost some games because there's some blocks.
17:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And what happens again this year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bears let pressure right up the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Cairo Santos has a sub-50 yarder which in today's NFL, if you are below 50 yards, that should be a chip shot essentially, gets blocked.
17:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, could Cairo have elevated the ball more?
17:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe, again, we have seen this once.
17:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I definitely saw on first on first glance was there was pressure up the middle that was not blocked up.
17:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that is a repeat issue from last year.
17:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a thing that people saw on tape last year saying like, Oh, yeah, this is a weakness that we could that we could exploit well, all of a sudden that weird.
18:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ugly.
18:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a little bit unlucky because Daniel Hardy is not looking to receive the ball ball.
18:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it traveled 10 yards to be like, you know, a recoverable kick for for the bangles, right?
18:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're doing an onside kick, the ball needs to travel 10 yards before the kicking team can try and hop on it.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the ball had landed 10 yards, so the bear's
18:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not really looking and it hits him in the foot and the bangles make a heads-up play and they recover the football, but But again, it's just like man, that is a low that is a low percentage play for for the bangles, right?
19:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I don't say under 10% or right around 10%
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And the bear's find a way to not recover that football, compounding these special teams mistakes.
19:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Devon Duvernet finally gets the opportunity to get a big kick off, to get some special teams momentum and what happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a holding on Jaday Walker who is
19:27
[SPEAKER_01]: who's got a roster spot because of what he can do on special teams right he earned that spot in in the preseason and all the great catches in the preseason but like this dude is going to play special teams this year for this team he is not expected to play wide receiver for this team shot a walker holding kills the return so I mean like
19:49
[SPEAKER_01]: it's it's other than the Tory Taylor punt.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just hard to look at special teams and say like what are you guys what are you guys doing super well right now because it just seems to be getting worse and worse and worse.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll end it with this.
20:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be different if you didn't think and you kind of mentioned this with Jaday Walker.
20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: If you didn't think that Ron Hot Tower had the prerequisite amount of talent, like if over the last few years we would have that the bears didn't have special special teams players, but the reason why Travis Homener is here, I know that
20:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The linebacker, what's the, the linebacker this engine right now that will be probably starred in over a Noah Swill?
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I can, it's, it's, it's, uh, Africans.
20:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a mega.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure, if, if he was out there, they would be better.
20:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But there are several guys from Josh Blackwell to the rest of some of the DBs.
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys that are out there that you expect that they have that's how it to wear, coverage shouldn't be this bad.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: and it almost cost you a game like it could have easily been what it was one of the factors why you almost lost the game.
21:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It almost cost you a victory and you're compounding that with your defense playing terrible like the bears have one good crazy part and all this they have one good phase of football today, right?
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did.
21:18
[SPEAKER_00]: They had one good phase and it's the phase that actually we've been complaining about the most And that's the offense was there anything else the special teams out before we move forward I do want to okay So I'm I'm actually going to complete the full metaphor right so the bears do good better best.
21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do Bad ugly worst And I'm going to take I'm just going to take a pot shot at the broadcasting team at a march a letter.
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: goodness.
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he had a rough rough broadcast.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, this is my first season listening to the broadcast really a lot.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And again,
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: watching it a first go, but I got to say Archiletta was telling Caleb Williams to take off on damn near every other play.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile half the time I'm like, hey, there's like three guys in his face or there was one where he's like Caleb Williams just needs to recognize to take off here and it'll be an easy 15 yards.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like their playing zone and he's got a linebacker and a cornerback looking right at him.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what are you?
22:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about man.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You played the game.
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't play the game.
22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, maybe maybe I'm wrong.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like I'm wrong in some of these cases where I was like, dude, I'm pretty, uh, it's his own.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty little two defenders looking right at him.
22:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure it would have been bad news if the games took off running.
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I double that jump down on that one?
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and this is this compounded it then on a scramble where was kind of like It wasn't a positive scramble was like, yeah, I'm happy you finally did it.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like he's patting himself on the back
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: right now like at some point you have to say and you have to know okay even if it was bad he was bad but he did something you wanted either don't say anything or say well I wish he would I want him to do it but I hope I didn't want him to do it right then right and then then even more since Caleb won the game on the last couple of jobs by breaking out of the pocket but this would make me upset to just go with you if I hear someone call him arch one more
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, is that Adam Marcha later right?
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, Adam, like, arch.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, but I'm like, dude, that's such a stretch of an arch.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: To go, again, I know, this is just me being nitpicky.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I have been like, arch, arch, I'm just like, man, if you don't.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: stop, but yeah, I can see what you're saying, but listen, that's one thing too.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're talking about broadcast teams, and of course some are more talented than others, but also you're talking about people that fly in a few or a couple or a few days prior to the game, they're not entrenched with everything.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, from the media responsibility, Alex, that you've had over the last
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I'm saying now and it's not as much with us because we don't have to do games across that but still to your point it wasn't the best but that's what you get when you have the bear's faces in the bagels you're not going to get the 18 you know saying coming in when you have the bear's face in the bagels but what else did you have to say?
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really interesting now it's
24:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a weird trended, I know it got a lot of talk with Troy Ackman, just totally dunking on Caleb Williams all game long.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot exactly which game Troy Ackman was calling.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It must've been the commander's game, right?
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was the commander's game because I was least three right.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a commander's game because like I remember distinctly Caleb Williams, this is a Monday night course hits all of me is a kies on the shoulder, you know, the kies has nobody near him.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It could have gone for a billion yards and try it.
25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a could have led him a little bit.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: better there.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, come on, man.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's against on the shoulder.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an interesting like national thing where I think people like to dunk on Caleb Williams and I don't get it.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if I was listening to that game with the sound on,
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I thought Caleb Williams or the sound off.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what I'm trying to say is, I thought Caleb Williams played a pretty solid game.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, did he miss some throws?
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Was he pixel perfect on every single one of his throws?
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but these guys,
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like nitpick Caleb Williams more than they do other quarterbacks and maybe that comes with the territory of being the number one overall pick a guy who was super duper ridiculously hyped like one of the more hyped up cubies since Andrew look but like
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Most QBEs aren't pixel perfect on every single throw and I thought he was pretty solid.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You know there was one where he hit some Colcomat it was it was the throw that Colcomat got caught and yes, was that could he have lead Colcomat a little bit better?
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, but like did he get the ball there on a key first down?
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know that that was full hospital ball status And he's shredding him same with the Roma Dunes a throw like yes, could he have led Roma Dunes a better in the end zone?
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But Roma Dunze, is that top 10 pick?
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, ball hit him on the arm, ball hit him on the hands, like, dude, you're a top 10 pick.
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to catch that pass for your quarterback.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just feel like if it was another QB, and maybe this is not, maybe this is just me.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the Bears every week.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hyper-focused on the Bears, right, obviously.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like if another QB had made that throw,
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: The discussion would have been Roman Dunes a, I know it's not a great pass, but you have to catch that ball in the end zone for your guy, but because it's Caleb Williams, it's like all Caleb Williams.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Terrible throw.
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get that out and space better.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I off-base there?
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
27:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you've, you've said what I'm about to say in, in, in a different manner.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Caleb needs to be more accurate, right?
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to at times lead his receivers.
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: There are times where he's a tick behind the players and catching the ball like this instead of, and I'm saying this is if there's no defender ahead of them, instead of like this, right?
27:29
[SPEAKER_00]: There are times where there can be more yards.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: On the Colcomet play, the angle, so this is my only problem with the Colcomet play.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, I don't, I felt like the defender
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: was covering the outside.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like even let's just say if they were lined up together, I felt like the defenders was gonna lean towards the outside and Cole would have had to turn and go the other way.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Which I don't think you would lead him because the receiver was in line where the defender was in line with him.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So to me when I would rewatch that part, I feel like the kid had been an easier path.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So I get that.
28:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But the leading aspect, I didn't necessarily see.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'll say this, due to the fact that Caleb has acted in some ways different than what people are used to.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: People don't like to fact he paints his nails.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't paint my nails, as you can see right here.
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't care if he paints his.
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't, it doesn't, I don't bristle at it.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: We heard about Caleb has missed some interviews for broadcast teams.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know even in the past that they've been a situation where, um, Joe Troy Eggman, I'm gonna just say Troy Eggman, um, could have talked to Caleb and Caleb perhaps didn't give in to or accept his, his requests to talk to him.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, they dunk on Caleb, but that comes with the territory of being the biggest NIO quarterback so far.
29:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think that you add the money.
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: With and I don't think we saw Caleb taking advantage of it in college, particularly for someone playing the SE in Los Angeles.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I think that
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It, what you imagine he could have been doing lives with freeing people's minds to where they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they put that on to on him, um, but some of it is Caleb.
29:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb, at some time says some things where it's like, are you serious occasionally?
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He does, right?
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like, okay, but just look, even sometimes this is not, you don't think it's all the way your fault.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You're the quarterback game page just accepted because we're going to give you more of the praise down the line and we give anybody else, but I'm with you, it was a bit much today and yes, because but that's also a factor too, because we live in the world.
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: where it's easier to take what someone else has done and I'm talking about a choreoic man and people talking about Caleb, not leading receivers.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's easier to take that information and apply it when you're trying to fill out a whole game.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's something to where I know it, I don't think anybody thinks it's easy but some people may think it is easy and you're trying to fill up all that space with words and content or whatever.
30:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But I still, like I said, I'm gonna agree and it's totally what you said.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, now let's get to the easier the light is all the different ways Alex was a bad worse tear what was what was you using before like bad ugly worst I think bad ugly worse so let's go with good better best yeah and let's start off with that I want to go I'll go good Caleb Williams
30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I go better, Ben Johnson's play call this week.
30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: The trickeration was on full trickeration.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing like the trickeration in his streets.
30:50
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would go best, first start for rookie Kalmanung guy, ran for 176 yards, caught, I believe, what, let me see real quick.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He caught 32 E, he caught three passes for 22 yards.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so he almost had 200 yards for passing line of scrimmage.
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, is his first start for him.
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We're rookie, bring anybody to saw him at Rutgers, you knew this was kind of the thing.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll start right there before we jump into Caleb since I jumped into Kalmanunga and it'll be quick.
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing about Kalmanunga at Rutgers was terrific balance, but the thing too, and it's not not trying to take a shot at the Andre Swift, there's something about
31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: sensing a weak spot in something.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And one, you saw today, commonung eye has vision for end patients, because some time it takes patients for the gap to develop or the whole to develop.
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But also, he has a sense of where the weak point is.
31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it's still within a line of scrims.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's on the line of scrims.
32:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's outside of it, bouncing it on the outside.
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So to see what he did to keep the bears in this game and he was a huge part.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You look at a, a running back this look at as a bowling pin and you don't think about long gashes but he had almost a 40-yard run for his long, it was 39 and he had,
32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: at least three or four that were either eight to 12 yard runs that got the bears first downs making series easier and allowing the bears to be a team that scored on a lot more drives than they didn't some opposite of what you saw last week.
32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was good because when you look at the fact that he's your backup running back and you have
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: a good veteran in the Andre Swift that's going to be back sooner or later, but to know you can depend on him and as he's gotten used to the speed of the NFL, you see in the productivity let alone coming from a player that was picked in the 7th round by team that a lot of people believe wanted to eat a trade up in the 1st round form right in the back court, at least drive draft or run it back in the 2nd round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So right there, Kamenunga, your thoughts on this run game today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just an unbelievable performance.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: one maybe one bad rep where he dropped the target.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But other than that, I mean, that's incredibly nitpicky stuff.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I say that to say rookie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 7th round draft pick.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: not only making his first start, but bears really making him the focal point of the offense, putting this game on his shoulders and just absolutely delivered.
33:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely came through.
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It was running with attitude, it was running with authority, as you said, so many chunk plays when
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears offence just wasn't in a rhythm, right?
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that Raven's game, they were out of sorts.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't score on the red zone.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know he didn't score a touchdown.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get to the red zone stuff when we talk about Caleb Williams, probably.
34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But just absolutely delivered when the ball and the game was putting his hands to be quite honest.
34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And it goes back and it kind of,
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of verifies what we thought about this draft.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: When, as you mentioned, a lot of people were like, you got to go up and get asked in genty, or a Marion Hampton, first round or like, bears get it done.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But the talk was that this was an incredibly deep running back class, and that there was a lot of talent to be had throughout the draft.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears miss out on a player like Trayvion Henderson.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: They miss out on a player like Cam Skataboo.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: These are guys who were taken right before the bears came on the clock, right?
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And each of those players would have made a ton of sense for the Chicago Bears.
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But they didn't panic.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't over extend themselves to make sure they got some of those guys knowing that hey there, again, is a lot of telling them this draft.
35:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to commend Ryan Poles for staying disciplined for staying patient.
35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Identifying Kalmanungai as a draft target in the seventh round.
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And he showed, I mean, he just continues to show over and over and over again, that not only is he, yes, an NFL player, because that's that is a question that 7th round draft picks need to answer 7th round draft picks are absolutely not locks to make teams, plenty of 7th round picks, never play in the NFL.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So not only did he prove, yes, I am an NFL player.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He has also proven that
35:50
[SPEAKER_01]: If you need me to be the focal point of the game plan, I can come through for you and I know that the Bangle's defense is not very good, especially that run defense.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also know that the bear's offensive line did a really good job of creating lanes for him.
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So hats off to that offensive line inside and outside.
36:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But he also did a very good job for himself of making himself skinny when the the whole was pretty small or when he had one guy to beat beat in that guy fighting through contact keeping his legs churning so.
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: again, like was he put in a position to succeed?
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He absolutely was, but he also helped himself succeed with everything that he did.
36:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So truly wonderful performance for Common Unguy.
36:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a shout out the other running back here because Rojo, Rochon Johnson was also hurt.
36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So the bears elevate Britain brown from the practice squad.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You figure like, okay, this is just a depth move because the bears also have Travis Homer.
36:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw a very little bit of Travis Homer on offense.
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw more Britain brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is another seventh round pick for the Las Vegas Raiders in 2022.
37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Had never played on offense.
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Never had something like 60 special team saps back in 2022.
37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He finally gets that offensive snap.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an incomplete pass.
37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not it.
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't let it bother him.
37:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Calvin and I have to check out of the game in the third quarter.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, it's like, Brown, here you go, picks up a key, a key first down, and then they give him the ball again.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And he rips off like a 20 yard touchdown run.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So a guy who has literally never played on offensive three year NFL career gets his first carry and his first touchdown.
37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these are two young players.
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: making their NFL firsts and they just absolutely came through.
37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's off to commonung guy.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: That's off to Britain Brown.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's off to Eric B.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Enemy for making sure that these guys are ready and hats off for Ben Johnson for not being afraid to put the game in these guys hands who were like kind of, you know, unproven in these big scenarios.
38:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely delivered
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's switch over to the quarterback Caleb Williams was 20 of 34 for 280 yards, 3TDs, 0 interceptions, and a QBR of almost 115, 114.
38:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, I've just get it out the way.
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Still, I'm holding on to the ball sometimes.
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: A little, suck.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: more than a little hold on to the ball too often when times is time to get rid of the ball or one two three drop make it happen but still had a really good game day a pretty good game today.
38:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about Ben Johnson next.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Ben Johnson definitely provided him with layups.
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You just said this they were playing against a bad defense but the crazy thing is about playing against a bad defense you would think that they would get more chunk yards through the air where it was really more the things that they set up with the run and they methodically moved down they make
39:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Kid methodically moved down the field and they kept drives alive, which is, again, great shout to the coaching.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But Caleb uses feet today.
39:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Had 53 yards rushing.
39:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Long was 14 yards.
39:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that was that second to last play before the touchdown pass to coast in lovelin.
39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times and I know last week we came out here and we were frustrated with Caleb.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not to say that there's still not some frustration with Caleb, but I also want to say this.
39:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing about Caleb that we have to remember that we haven't really consistently had here was a guy that can win in the fourth quarter.
39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Caleb, like as much as we can play and even if you were a Justin fan, which I was, Justin couldn't get it done in the fourth quarter.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a lot of bears quarterbacks who could not get it done in the fourth quarter, let alone consistently now.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You look at last week, they didn't get it done, but that was the totality, including him.
40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that when you're looking at what, a hundred, what, forty-nine seconds.
40:15
[SPEAKER_00]: 15 points were scored by Joe Flacco and knows why receivers include, and also Chase Brown.
40:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw this who had a really good game, even though he stepped out of the backfield, but still.
40:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But the comeback can do that.
40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: For Campe to still be that guy when the chips were down and you're like, man, they got 42 seconds.
40:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they really going to be able to pull this off?
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: to put a touchdown up, not a field goal to put a touchdown up in that manner and again shout out to coast and level because he had to break a tackle and get into the end zone.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So this doesn't wasn't just simply Caleb.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, shout to Caleb, one of those things that gives you reason to still believe that they can unlock his potential moving forward.
40:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still a lot of potential to unlock.
40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But shout out, great game.
41:01
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not getting really good game by Caleb.
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You face the teams that are on your schedule if they don't have a good defense You need to do this and let's also point that out that Take back because initially I was gonna be like well the score you got to add to the fact that they had a defense of touchdown But that came off the board Yep, they almost put a 50 points against the bangles defense today like it it was not the offensive fall
41:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and before I, I switched to you to get okay with, I also want to shout out one player that was not on the bear's team.
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say, and this isn't as far as the bear's winning, but sorry to Joe Flacco, because if in that game, when he had to come back out there, you saw his age and he was like, oh my god, I can't believe that I have to come up.
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, sorry.
41:44
[SPEAKER_00]: For them, they're in the broadcast to say he was telling the office of players that we were team and we can't pile on the defense.
41:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I know at that point, he and his stuff is it.
41:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He pound on the defense.
41:58
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a video I saw shortly after the game of Jumark Chase walking through the tunnel.
42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds like he just says, just one stop.
42:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to feel for Jamar Chase because he's got to feel great too, like, oh, man, Joe Flackos here.
42:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm back, baby.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But these guys just can't win because that defense is so bad.
42:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But as we said in the past, you got to beat who's on your schedule, bangles around the schedule and they beat them with that bad defense.
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to underline what you were talking about about Caleb Williams.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: haven't it, whatever it is in these clutch moments.
42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is what is beginning to reverse the thinking that
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears are faded to lose, doomed to lose.
42:53
[SPEAKER_01]: To now thinking like, hey, they got a shot to win here.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, as you said, there was 42 seconds.
43:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Can they really do it?
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: In the past, I mean, forget nine out of 10, 10 out of 10, 11 out of 10 times.
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know the bears are losing that football game.
43:11
[SPEAKER_01]: No shot, just absolutely no shot.
43:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But starting with that comeback against the Packers, the walkoff field goal against the Packers to end the last season.
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We have now seen a few times that when their backs are against the wall, they've tried to fumble away a win, they've tried to blow a game in classic bears fashion.
43:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been so many times the Raiders game, the commanders game, or just like this is another classic bears loss.
43:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams has made some plays when the team needed it.
43:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's had help from his running backs.
43:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had help from DeAndre Swift.
43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Today he had a ton of help from Calvin and on guy and of course, a ton of help from, from Colson Love Colson Love.
44:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Ben Johnson.
44:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the every QB who we talk about who has that whatever it is they all got helped to Patrick Mahomes has Travis Kelsey and he's got a slew of playmakers who have been critical right and that's Super Bowl he had Danyan Williams who is playing lights out Tom Brady had Randy Moss or well-swelker like
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we remember Tom Brady, we remember and talk about Patrick Mahomes, these guys had help, just like Caleb Williams has helped now.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And still, when, as you said, the chips are on the table, we are now seeing Caleb Williams put together winning drives.
44:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's, it's at least in me, at least in me.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would imagine it at Household to a degree.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: No shot, bears are losing this game, wrap it up.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's like, oh, actually, actually they can do it.
45:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to point out a few of these back against the wall moments, because it wasn't just the 58 yard touchdown to coast and loveland, where coast and loveland doesn't unbelievable job bouncing off a tackler and going the distance, right?
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't just that play.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also,
45:33
[SPEAKER_01]: fourth and goal in the red zone, fourth and goal obviously at the beginning of the game, where Caleb Williams flips the ball to Roma Dunesay, who flips the ball to DJ Moore, DJ Moore does a good job of winning a tackler, and he flips the ball to Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams catches an easy pass, I get gotta have it, Caleb Williams comes through with the with the receiving touchdown.
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Thirding, thirding goal from the one where what happens a delay game can't have it absolutely cannot have it in the past.
46:09
[SPEAKER_01]: No shot bears are scoring this touch down.
46:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They're certainly for a field goal.
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What does he do throws another dart to Colston Loveland?
46:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we are talking a dang good throw.
46:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Colston Loveland, a race is the delay of game, a race is the mistake touched down.
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And then yes, you know, obviously the big play at the end, uh, so Caleb Williams like this is the stuff this is the stuff that we that we we talk about right when the bears when it was really clear that the bears were moving on from just in fields when they're talking about we need a guy who can come through in the two minute drills who can come through in the fourth quarters.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's starting to happen.
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm a cynical, I'm a cynical bear's watchers.
46:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm as cynical as they get.
47:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm starting to get to that point right now because of Caleb Williams and what he's doing.
47:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm starting to believe that, hey, if they have some time, if they have some time, and it's a one-score game,
47:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson's chances.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson also, I should throw him flowers too, man.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: That guy was deep in his bag.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talk about the, I talked about the, the little razzle dazzle, we're, um, we're Caleb Williams caught the touchdown.
47:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Cole commits throw to Roman Dunesay, that Rome drops inexplicably.
47:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Great, great play.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The Tyson Bayesian Razzle Dessel.
47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: We had two quarterbacks out there and Tyson Bayesian Snell throwing it back to Caleb Williams for a 20 or get, you know, Ben Johnson, putting his guys in a place to succeed, putting Caleb Williams in a position to succeed.
48:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And now these guys are, it seems like they're believing and they're getting it done.
48:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to switch to Ben Johnson.
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you good with Caleb right now because I think
48:11
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is to where you see the growth, like the last couple of weeks, the screens haven't been as clean and the blocking ahead of the screener hasn't been as sound.
48:25
[SPEAKER_00]: They were those big men were moving like freight trains out there today.
48:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see the adjustment from the past mistakes that the team and Ben Johnson made coming together.
48:36
[SPEAKER_00]: The screens were so much, there was so much more space.
48:40
[SPEAKER_00]: when the screens were starting out that you just look at, you look at the trick, you mentioned the trickeration, which was great because those are partially some of the labs that we were talking about last week.
48:51
[SPEAKER_00]: There were labs, like they're too talented.
48:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They use DJ Moore a lot more this week, right?
48:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And you didn't just stick him and try to use him as a running back until he breaks, basically, which, again, toughest nails, DJ Moore stays getting her to stay as getting his ass back in a game.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But that, when you've talked about a rookie head coach, who, as you said, gets in his bag on what his strength is and, of course, that's offense and makes adjustments from having a bad game to come back and having a good game is regardless of the team they were facing, his team almost put up 50 points that they needed all of them.
49:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't 50 a blowout and they won by 30 points and they just kept scoring because it was too much time on the clock for them to take a knee.
49:33
[SPEAKER_00]: No, this was we need every last one of these points and what became a shootout with old man Joe and that to what you were saying.
49:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like the fact that you said this, because when you were saying, having Caleb in the fourth quarter, and then you said, and Ben Johnson, having both of them and seeing the growth, I believe Ben Johnson may be the most important thing, because the bears, it's been a long time.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So the bears have had a great quarter.
50:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I had coach let alone, offensive mind it.
50:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I don't even know.
50:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would be able to name you.
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... great offensive line of bears had coach um... for anybody to scream out dick of his special teams coordinator before he became a head coach here uh... but not in two thousand eighteen is the last time they leave in that state there you go but trust me uh... mark that we believe for a second those bears were seven and one and we believe for a second we believe we just in the they cut it the difference to try to do that to the offensive it
50:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It came back to bite them, but again, we're not talking about bad times.
50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about good times.
50:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Bears are five and three right now and with the rookie head coach and a young quarterback in his second year and they're still trying to figure things out.
50:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually it's the other way around where we're like, it's not bad.
50:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They're three and five and we're like, they're still a chance and in a tough division.
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no losing records.
50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in the NFC North, five to one, five and three, five and three and four and four.
51:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
51:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're in a tougher division.
51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You saw what the Vikings did today to the lions.
51:13
[SPEAKER_00]: With the young JJ McCarthy getting it done.
51:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting further down the line to see because the bears do not, they have the only team within the division that don't have a victory.
51:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see when they start playing their division rivals again.
51:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we know at the beginning of the year to look on the Vikings and the lions.
51:32
[SPEAKER_00]: When they play their division arrivals again, how much they have improved?
51:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, this was a good game on the offensive side of the ball, and I want to say this too.
51:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we'll always say this about Ben Johnson.
51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: His dedication to run in the football.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you're a real football hit, and I, again, Ben Johnson is an offensive one, but he knows that the run is the essential element.
51:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, if, if,
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: again they're going to be against you can't get the run and you're just going to need to pass but you need to run to take time off the clock, you need to run the run to sustain drives, you need to run running to keep the opposing teams offensive off of the Danfield particularly of Joe Facco has two call of fame type receivers.
52:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Forget that.
52:12
[SPEAKER_00]: A great receiving core basically.
52:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's not just say like they're running back, finding the line I run it back is catching passes.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy over there.
52:21
[SPEAKER_00]: If only they weren't the Bengals, perhaps they were run as Super Bowl.
52:24
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, just having that again, because I was frustrated today.
52:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll send us to Alex during when we took a short break.
52:35
[SPEAKER_00]: took away all the grief from what would have been a frustrating bears post game show, right?
52:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like to, and it's not just that they won, it's how they won.
52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like to be bombarded with passes from Joe Flacco where he only had three play drives to score touchdowns to have coast and lovelin' go for almost 60.
52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, after Caleb had a nice run, shout out to Adam Archerleta, a nice run.
53:03
[SPEAKER_00]: to predict it by Adam Archerlada, a nice run to set that play up.
53:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's after two having them, not have a timeout and try to run out the, the field goal unit of some games back.
53:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And like you're wondering, okay, are we gonna be in the same type of scenario where we don't have any time out, the clock is low and it's Santos.
53:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And I won't put it on Santos, they can't get the ball down in enough time.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And you, you talked about the pressure that was up the middle on the black kick.
53:33
[SPEAKER_00]: because Caleb and Kosen got it done, but yeah, shout out to Kosen for catching that pass and breaking those tackles and getting it done because it really, you snatch, it will snatch from the jaws of the feet and it made my Sunday a lot better than what it was after going through an emotional Saturday evening sports was.
53:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Kathy, you're starting to believe?
53:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's not about belief for me, you know what it really is, it would be, and I said this last week, it will be defining what Caleb's ceiling is.
54:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Caleb going to be a guy that can be kind of good majority of the time or it's Caleb a young quarterback.
54:12
[SPEAKER_00]: that's going to grow out of some bad habits and develop consistency to become great majority of the time.
54:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like because if Caleb can become great, this changes a lot, particularly when you have one of the smarter, and this isn't just because he's the best, that coach, this is going off and when he's an offensive coordinator, one of the smarter offensive minds in Ben Johnson, calling plays for you, like...
54:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That opens up so much, and again, I know we, this is beaten a dead horse here.
54:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The fear's always, the bears get a good offense corner he's gonna leave.
54:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to worry about that with Ben Johnson being successful, right?
54:47
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is just holding on to Ben Johnson.
54:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not, I guess I am a believer to agree to answer your question.
54:54
[SPEAKER_00]: There's always gonna be questions about RAM polls and staffing, a team to agree, even I know more of that is it falls in the purview of Ben Johnson.
55:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so we'll see how he grows with talent also in their relationship, their partnership.
55:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I believe they have a talented quarterback that makes Nucklehead plays at times.
55:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't know if you can coach that out of them.
55:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the question mark really when it comes to this bears team.
55:24
[SPEAKER_00]: What about you?
55:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you a believer?
55:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I kind of like what I was saying before.
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm starting to believe that that this is a team where like I said if it's close late They got a legit shot to win.
55:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They do you know that part.
55:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in Alex that part.
55:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
55:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at Micro instead of micro Um, not the same.
55:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
55:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I just.
55:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I agree because you you you prefaced it that way.
55:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So and that's a good tool.
55:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Another place.
55:53
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, but yeah.
55:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess in that regard
55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I also do believe that killer Williams can be a guy, the way that he can be a guy that the bears win because of that he's a guy that every time he straps on the helmet, you know you have a chance to win a football game, right?
56:16
[SPEAKER_01]: This was the first game all year where
56:21
[SPEAKER_01]: The defense needed the offense to bail them out.
56:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams needed the offense to bail them out.
56:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, everything was like, okay, offense had a really great game, but hey, thankfully, the defense was just lights out, and they covered up some mistakes, and the defense led that team to victory.
56:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, I know Tramaine Admin's had the pick, but like, that was before like,
56:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Madness, right?
56:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That should have been the game ceiling pick.
56:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
56:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
56:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a this was a day where Defense didn't have it.
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams didn't have it.
57:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They gave up 42.
57:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It used to be that like if you scored 25 on the bears you won You know like you knew the bears not gonna score 26 stuff you hit 25 you win the football game
57:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they gave up 42 and it wasn't like it wasn't a Caleb Williams pick six.
57:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a the offense coughed up the ball and gave the bangles a short field.
57:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the defense and special teams gave a 42.
57:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They needed the offense to bail them out and they did it.
57:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, again, that was the first time that we've seen that this year.
57:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, again, I know the Bengals defense is bad.
57:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It has not been good, but but they did it.
57:48
[SPEAKER_01]: They put up the 47 points.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They did it.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They bailed the other two phases out.
57:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so that's where it's like, okay, now now you're seeing.
57:57
[SPEAKER_01]: One phase, if the other two don't got it, the other phase can pick up the other and they've all, they've done it now.
58:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So they all carried each other because the difference a few games ago was the phase that was carrying everything basically.
58:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I'll end it with this on Caleb.
58:15
[SPEAKER_00]: If Caleb was turnover prone.
58:17
[SPEAKER_00]: bears would really be in some shit, particularly I'm not just talking about now I'm talking about looking down the the field at what his career made become because outside of now I'm talking about the knucklehead plays where hold no to the ball trying to play hero walk something a lot of it is he's he's trying to hit home runs to them often like that's it's biggest thing is and you go back to S.C.
58:43
[SPEAKER_00]: that that's how he plays he's trying to hit a home and once he gets to methodically move the check it down check it because it's going to open up for you and he can then he can get that this is a thing in the house clipped it up so well when he plays like heart-plark can't using his superpowers
59:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, doomsday is, and dark side are not coming to Metropolis every other day.
59:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
59:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there are sometimes you don't have to go nuclear.
59:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you can sit there and just, okay, it's a, it's a person matching.
59:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me, and trip the guy up.
59:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You can do one of those things.
59:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he was turnover prone and you had to work out, turn over's out of him.
59:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot.
59:25
[SPEAKER_00]: With him just being really not seeing stuff and holding on to the ball, I think you may be able to work that out of him, but I'll say this.
59:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to wait and see.
59:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's the thing.
59:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I can not predict and I won't see here on the win the city pot and be like, he's going to be great because there's definitely been some question mark said it developed over the last year and a half and just now this part, then being halfway through the season.
59:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, he almost has 2,000 yards.
59:53
[SPEAKER_00]: which I don't know if he will get to 4,000.
59:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He's at a 1900 and it's a change.
59:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he'll get to 4,000 of bears, of course, we all know have never had a pastor, the only team in the league.
1:00:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's some team so much worse than the bears, historically.
1:00:08
[SPEAKER_00]: that have never had looked at bagels.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_00]: The bagels have probably had like five.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like just real, like boober.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We know burrow, like, you know, and he don't.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And he don't.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Car some Palmer.
1:00:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they've had some guys.
1:00:23
[SPEAKER_00]: They've had some guys.
1:00:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, can't answer.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_00]: They probably had some some guys or whatever.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, that was my last part on Caleb.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully you'll see that with us here on the Winner CD pod.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_00]: always stay tuned.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_00]: We got more to do.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just still going to plug the show and all the interviews is Alex covers Chicago's worst throughout the week.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Really good hockey guests this past week.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That was insightful.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out Greg Boison.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get to our game balls.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We do have them today.
1:00:58
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a game balls.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You win when you put up 47 points and you win There's a game balls.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be some some game balls going up.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_01]: All right Yes, sir.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you want to start.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll kick it off.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_01]: My game ball is going to Colston Loveland this is a guy who had an opportunity when
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool Comet, got hurt again, exited the game early.
1:01:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Rumodoonzay didn't have it.
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna put a pin in this.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not gonna talk about it right now because we're on our time.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna put a pin in rumodoonzay might have a little case of the drop-y.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to talk about that, but you're right.
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll save that.
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna save that.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And this has this for him.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're wrong, cause this has to change.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, bro, you, you, this is a bad habit, particularly when this is your job.
1:01:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But the police can tell you.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Rome is dropping the football.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_01]: DJ Moore having a nice game, but the bears needed that
1:02:02
[SPEAKER_01]: that other guy and Colson Lovelin to really stepped up in an enormous way scored his first NFL touchdown on that play.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We described earlier, 3rd and 6.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to have it.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets open, Caleb Williams nails him and then of course the
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_01]: game winner.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't quite a walk off, but it was essentially a walk off.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, oh yeah, what an electric play to just run through a guy and then outrun every buddy else.
1:02:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He had seven targets, six catches, 118 yards, two touchdowns, every single number that I just listed.
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_01]: lead the Chicago Bears.
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So this was the Colston Lovelin game we have been looking for since the team drafted him number 10 overall.
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He only had something like 11 catches for 100 odd yards.
1:02:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He practically doubled everything.
1:02:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So phenomenal breakthrough game for Colston Lovelin.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Bravo.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_00]: particularly when the broadcasts put up him and draft mate, Ty Warren, to gather and show how well Ty Warren has been playing for the end and that was coach and how I won't say that coaching has been playing bad.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't been given the opportunities but regardless for us who wanted the best to draft Ty Warren, he's been one of those types of things.
1:03:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was good that he did that when they were playing in his face to let everyone know that was watching the game.
1:03:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, my game ball, you already know, is gonna go to Kalmananga.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Running hard, I don't think he is talented as his player, but he has a running style similar to Marshaon Lynch.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I think everyone thinks about Marshaon Lynch being difficult to bring down, but he was in
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_00]: He's better than Kalmanung out of this.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I always think about, Marcia Lynch is his agility.
1:04:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, his choppy steps allow him to change pace and direction easy to beat that type of big guy.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was what you saw with Kalmanunga and breaking it outside, where it was like, damn, how did he get around and get all the way out there?
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that hot step.
1:04:17
[SPEAKER_00]: that he does, um, low center of gravity.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how many times, and Alex talked about how well the offensive line blocked, but how many times did he break two tackles to pick up some more yards?
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like every single carry.
1:04:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to like that, when you have that, and again, the funny thing is, or the better, the best part of it is, you have a guy that's playing a head of him that's playing well also in the Andre Swift, and it's both for them on all cylinder,
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But they allow us and we know that Deyandra Swift was banged up and played anyway last week.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if Deyandra Swift needs another week, you don't have the fear that you may have to lean on Kalmanunga, you know, any further.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to him with a really good game.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Almost 200 yards past a lot of scrimmage today.
1:05:09
[SPEAKER_00]: really did carry the bears throughout this game versus the bangles today.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to give shots shout out to him and shout out to them for picking him up as late as they did.
1:05:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you talked about earlier.
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:05:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Last but not least, we have our, um, I forgot the extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How the hell did I blink out on extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, our extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to shed this extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to shed this extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so our extra point will be the world series, which ended last night with the Los Angeles Dodgers beating the Toronto Blue Jays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was one of the best world series that I've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think this is, I don't think all of that or majority of that is recent sea bias, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about I was up that night with 18 any night and I was doing something and I looked and I was like, why did I just get in the alert about this game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh my goodness, the game was still going to be like, what's I was like, oh, so then I went and I watched it or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the fact that both of us are white socks friends and for me, I'm not, I'm gonna speak for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna speak for Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The white socks have hurt me because I think baseball may hurt the most because you've got to spend so much time with it like you Every day like I have a whole week before I have to deal with the bears again if they're lost today, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that may pop up, but if my baseball team is bad
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna see like five times this week that they're bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't double-header, the White House could lose eight times in one week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you just, just that, it's just, it's compounding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing with bad baseball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really compounds quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that world series made me miss loving my team and how it kept me connected with baseball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying, like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm rededicated myself next season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, even if it's not and I'm gonna watch the white socks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the white socks definitely moved in a positive direction issue regardless of their record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They seem rudderless a lot and it seemed like, okay, they may.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the fact that Kostom Gummer went from a full-on bust at the beginning of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, they got us in the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is another one of those, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: To like, oh, shuddy hit it, but that's not about the white socks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, shout to the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this was a team that was supposed to win and also like I had, I was in like a family thread and I kind of was like, it's gonna be hard for the blue jays and this is like what aunties, I'm like, it's gonna be hard for them to beat the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had kind of needed them to win anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they didn't make you a liar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't make me a liar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got 60 seconds left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to make this real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't understand the Dodgers hate in terms of them buying a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, hey, they cared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They invested a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were rewarded for that investment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also, similar to the chiefs, similar to the Patriots, I like watching greatness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Show Hay is Babe Ruth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: None of us saw Babe Ruth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We get to watch Babe Ruth now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And gotta shout out, Yamamoto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what he did, truly insane, truly insane, three wins in the world series, pitched like a billion innings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: ERA just over one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and pension back to back nights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got love for the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got love for my LA people who are so out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy for them all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unbelievable series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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