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Kent Hovind VS Atheist Adam Lore | Universe, Evolution, Science, Morality | By Brett Keane · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Oh, enter. Okay. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3,
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  2, 1. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my
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  name is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
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  I hope you're all having a wonderful and blessed day out
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  there. I'm going to share with you a
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  little bit about my personal views of Kent hovind as well, as
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  Adam, or I've been watching Kent hovind videos for years because
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  of his videos. It caused me to start opening my
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  mind. Didn't questioning Evolution
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  back. Whenever I was a former atheist.
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  He helped me really get into the idea that there's problems.
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  And I started researching it myself and started finding out
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  issues. I believe that Kim told them is
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  one of the most powerful assets for Christianity.
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  And God, I totally respect his work, his videos and his time,
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  and hopefully he continues to do things.
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  I also want to point out. I am really pleased that he
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  brought, Matt, Powell Arne, and And they're working together
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  because I see. Matt how has an upcoming
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  powerful Christian with his his own set up a message and
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  Ministry going. As far as Adam Moore goes, I've
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  known Adam for years and I've had discussions with them, he's
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  a great guy. He does refer to himself as an
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  atheist. He and I we don't always see eye
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  to eye, but he's always treated me with respect and he's been
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  very considerable and he's very open-minded and he definitely
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  has a lot of you. Is that may not be the same as
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  some of the things that you hear from non-believers.
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  Can you both do me a favor and plug your channels and your
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  social media sites? Her.
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  Go ahead, Adam. Alright.
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  Hey everybody. How's it going?
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  Can't nice to meet you. Brett, thanks for putting this
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  together. My name is Adam, Lor, Lor e.
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  I'm on YouTube and I draw Comics as well.
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  So you can check out my my comic.
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  It's called toad Road comics on. Indie planet.com.
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  I am DYI planet and if you guys are concerned about language and
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  stuff, there's a there's like the uncensored version and the
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  more Family friendly version. So can't you might want to pick
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  up the family friendly version and thanks for having me Brett.
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  Go ahead cow. All right, my turn kick in here,
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  brother, okay? Well good.
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  Yes sir, I'm Kent hovind. Will I live in Lenox Alabama,
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  straight north of Pensacola 70 miles.
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  We've got a someone gave us hundred Forty Acres and old
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  Gravel Pit. We're building a Christian Camp,
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  a science center and a museum. All based on creation.
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  And the Bible, we produce a lot of DVDs.
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  A lot of programs on Kent hovind, official hovind is a
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  Norwegian named HOV IND. We have a lot of videos, we put
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  out our go to her somewhere, get a series on what the Bible says
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  is going to happen in the future.
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  What on Earth is about Happen For Heaven's Sake.
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  Everything else in the Bible is come true.
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  I believe that one will too. There we go.
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  So in our series 18 hours, 50 bucks, for the whole thing,
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  after you're done, watching it and copy it.
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  If you want, you can send it back, get your money back.
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  Now that can't be in a deal like that, I tell people you still
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  own my stuff out. I learned right away,
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  Christians. Don't steal, but they do borrow
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  and never return. So, 50 bucks, you get it then
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  return it and get your money back.
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  Okay? Can't beat a deal.
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  Come visit us. Not officially everything's
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  free. Come on down when you guys get
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  an opportunity to check out the description of the video I have.
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  Ken Tobin's website, as well as YouTube channel.
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  If you haven't sub to him already, you need to.
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  Also I got a damn lawyers link down there, check him out.
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  He's got a lot of great stuff. He talks about and he also does
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  a lot of artistic creative work. So I think you guys would be
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  pleased with it. All right, so let's get into
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  some of the topics. We remember you guys at any time
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  or able to add your own things that you would like to talk
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  about are what your views are to find out a little bit about each
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  other. So one of the First topics that
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  we're going to get into is according to atheist scientists
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  that I had documented in video and audio on my channel and
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  website. They claim the universe came
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  from literal, nothing, Lawrence Krauss, Dawkins and other Say in
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  video, no space, no time, no particles and repeatedly
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  stressed from absolute nothing. Which by the way, uneducated a
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  Pious like Aaron Ross guide, damn, man and Satan, his Pals a
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  desperately. Tried to redefine her simply
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  blundered. So, what did you guys as views
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  on this about the universe coming from absolute nothing?
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  Now I can't ever go first every time if you would, so this is
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  one of my main things. I'm interested in is The Big
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  Bang Theory. I think that it's a bunch of
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  bull crap. I think that there's, it's been
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  thoroughly debunked. It's been disproven they have a
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  million different versions. Now, they have to keep updating
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  it with dark matter, and dark energy, and all this nonsense.
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  So, I think, and I probably have a very soon.
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  We may not come to the same conclusion in terms of Worlds
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  worldview. But, yeah, I think Cat.
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  And I probably have a lot of similar. issues with problems
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  with the Big Bang Theory and the different You know, I don't have
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  a bunch of notes put together. I wasn't really prepared for
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  this but we could talk about it. Like the cosmic background
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  microwave background radiation temperature is totally different
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  from what they predicted like There's not really evidence of
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  expansion. We observe that galaxies are
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  clumping together. Not expanding apart as just like
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  every single thing about it is just broken and wrong.
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  So, Well, that's good to hear. I appreciate that.
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  I believe the Big Bang Theory is one of the dumbest ideas ever
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  come up with, in the history of humanity.
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  The idea that nothing exploded and made everything some of them
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  say, oh no, it wasn't nothing. It was a DOT smaller than a
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  proton. But that little proton dot had,
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  you contained all of the matter in the universe.
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  I tell the atheists. I'll give you 100 bucks.
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  If you can squeeze a gallon of milk into a DOT smaller than a
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  proton. Let alone, the whole universe is
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  it headed to contain? Not only had to contain all the
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  Ready to contain all the energy. What is the total energy of all
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  the stars burning and all the sky?
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  All that was in that dot, I think it's absolutely
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  ridiculous. Idiotic Theory, Big Bang didn't
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  happen, it's dumb. If it did they say it only
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  produce hydrogen and helium. Maybe a little bit of lithium.
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  Okay. Well, how do you get all the
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  other elements? You can't fuse past iron.
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  So how do you get the album? It's just plain, bologna.
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  It's all made up. I think it's dumb.
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  So I'm glad to hear Adam realizes, but that does leave
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  the question. Then, where do we come from?
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  We're here. I think we would agree on that,
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  so, Where did time space and matter?
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  Come from The Big Bang had to not only produce matter, it had
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  to produce the space. Three dimensional space.
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  Where did that come from? And all the energy time, spend
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  time. So, what was before the Big
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  Bang? I mean, that just a completely
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  ridiculous. It's much simpler could believe
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  by faith in the beginning. God to God's outside of time,
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  space matter. He's not limited by them.
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  He can create them anytime he wants.
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  Go ahead. If you're interested, Adam,
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  would you like to give a summary of what it is that you actually
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  think about the universe and also my next question for you
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  guys? Is based upon science and
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  theology. At the same time, it would
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  basically be how old is the Universe and why did God create
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  so much space and all the other planets with them.
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  It I see that this is a common question that is asked by
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  non-believers. I felt it would be interesting
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  to hear you're standing on that brother Ken.
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  Adam, do you have a brief idea of where you think the universe
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  came from? If not God?
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  Sure. Yeah.
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  I don't believe that the Universe came from anywhere.
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  Just probably the same as you guys don't believe that God had
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  Had to have come from somewhere. He's just always was there.
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  I basically believe in an eternal Universe.
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  Obviously there wasn't, you know, Jupiter and the Earth and
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  stuff wasn't always Eternal about matter.
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  And energy has always been here and always will be, and it just
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  goes through these different Cycles, is what I believe in.
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  I believe the Bible, clearly teaches the Earth is about 6,000
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  years old. The Bible says, Adam was 130
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  when he had a son in Genesis, chapter 5 and the Bible.
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  Clearly says nothing died before Adam sinned.
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  And then, that boy was 105. When his son was born, he was
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  90. When his son was born, you can,
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  anybody can add up the dates in Genesis 5, and skip over to
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  Genesis 11, to get the ones after that, after the flood, and
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  you make a chart like this, which we sell in our bookstore
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  on Don doctored. I know.com the dates and the
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  Bible come up to her. 4000 BC, I don't put an exact date on.
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  I'd say plus or minus 15, 20 years maybe, but about six
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  thousand total years for the whole history of the universe.
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  God may God actually made the Earth before he made the Stars
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  according to the Bible. I believe that absolutely true.
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  Okay. All right, the next question I'm
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  going to ask is a theological question.
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  A lot of our questions are going to deal with Dinosaurs Evolution
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  and things having to do with science but we do definitely
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  have some biological biological as well as theological and so on
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  the next question is being that God being somebody's got some
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  dinging noises going on in background.
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  Sorry about that being that God is all-powerful.
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  He demonstrates in the Bible, his ability to freeze time and
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  space the passage and Joshua. To 10 verse 12 to 15 appears to
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  claim that the sun stop and gibeon, and the moon, and the
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  valley of Algerian, ancient Jewish and Christian Scholars
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  interpret. It literally, they also argued
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  that the purpose of the miracle was to allow the Israelites more
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  daytime to defeat their enemies. Does this not suggest that God
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  can literally pause the universe and if so how can we truly
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  determine actual time and age of this past during this
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  intervention Miracle or event? Go ahead guys.
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  I'll pass on that one because it doesn't apply to me but go
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  ahead. Ken Well, I would have to say
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  that would can only be classified as a miracle.
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  I don't think there's any possible way to give a
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  scientific explanation for that. It said he called the causes the
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  sun to stand still. Of course, all of these things
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  in the Bible are written from a man's perspective and so
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  technically the Earth is spinning as it goes around the
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  Sun I know all that. I'm not a geocentric or a flat
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  earther that's for sure but the fact that he he can stop the
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  Earth or stop the Earth from spinning he made it all in a
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  microsecond. He can certainly stop it from
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  spinning for a couple hours. Israelites beat their enemy.
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  So yeah. The Bible date set up to about
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  6,000 years ago and time. God's outside of time.
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  Time means nothing to him. This is not 2022 in heaven.
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  He's out. He's right now, looking at your
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  funeral, and your, and your mirth and George Washington.
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  And he sees it all at the same time.
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  That's, that's I get on it. Jesus said, Bible says, Jesus
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  created everything we find the verse here, 162.
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  All the slide number 162, Jesus answered and said, have you not
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  read that? He which made them at the
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  beginning, made them male and female talking about Adam and
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  Eve. So the beginning was clearly
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  when Jesus, when God made Adam and Eve and so the you can add
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  up to date. So it's about Thousand.
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  So yes, God can stop time and to say the sun, Stood Still is
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  correct way to say it. If it's if all the observers are
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  on the earth looking at it the sun Stood Still.
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  So that's my take on it, but I would just call it a miracle.
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  Have no explanation for it. I appreciate your response.
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  Brother, Kent. The next question is, can
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  atheist and Christians. Who believe in evolution explain
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  why we have never never observed life.
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  Anywhere else in the Universe. Go ahead.
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  The question is, why haven't we observed life elsewhere in the
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  universe? Sure, there's a lot of claims,
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  there's a lot of assertions, a good show called X-Files is on
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  there, but we don't actually have scientific evidence that
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  this has ever happened. Anywhere.
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  It seems as though our world is special and configured for this
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  to happen, what is you guys thoughts on this say?
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  I agree that the planet Earth in its current stage is special and
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  configured For the development and sustenance of life, that
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  doesn't necessarily mean that, you know, there's only so many
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  planets that we can access right now and they're at different
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  stages of development. So, you know, maybe Venus at one
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  point had life, maybe Mars could have, I think that if we had a
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  wider sample of different planets and stuff, exoplanets
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  and had a chance to look, we might might expect to find life
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  on other planets, but you know, we're pretty limited too.
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  Our own solar system currently, right?
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  Well, yeah, if someone wants to argue for life on other planets,
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  they're arguing from the complete lack of evidence.
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  There is zero evidence of any intelligent life anywhere.
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  In the universe, I taught school 15 years.
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  There's not much intelligent life on this planet, but so I
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  think the Bible is very clear. That man brought death into the
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  world. Nothing died before Adam,
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  sinned. According to the Bible anyway,
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  and again, I've chosen to take that on faith and so far all the
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  scientific evidence is back there.
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  Up that nothing died. God made a perfect world.
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  Everything would have lived forever except they blew it.
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  And so it really is man's fall but God's going to fix it back
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  one of these days and we're going to get to live here.
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  If you're a child of God get to live here on planet Earth for a
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  thousand years rule and reign with him.
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  If you're one of the faithful, let's talk about Revelation and
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  then eternity in heaven. So I'm looking forward to that.
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  So I think there is zero evidence of intelligent life on
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  any plan. I don't think Mars has ever had
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  any intelligent life on it or life of any kind.
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  I think this is it. It's all right here.
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  All made for us. I appreciate both of you
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  responses. I personally find it unusual
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  that some non-believers are Skeptics will claim.
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  Well, the other planets are harsh environments.
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  Yet, they claim that the Earth was on fire.
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  It was literally on fire and lightning was shooting all over
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  the place and hits, not on a rock and while I hear they are.
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  So, how was that? But we can't have it on any
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  other planet. Are we ready for the next
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  question? Just thought, I'd share that.
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  All right? Can atheist and Christians
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  explain from your own perspective, or opinion, where
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  all the water on Earth came from.
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  Yes, I think that this is actually, I think something that
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  can't and guys like Matt Powell and I might have more in common
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  on this is that when we look at the geological evidence where
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  we're coming to the conclusion, that it really looks like some
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  point in the past, the planet had been covered in water,
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  right? So I think that the conventional
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  sort of consensus mainstream atheist view is that all a bunch
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  of comets, hit all at the same time and brought his wife.
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  Here to Earth but not everywhere else.
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  It doesn't hold up. It's total nonsense.
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  I personally believe that the Earth itself is an evolving
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  structure. It's a it's gone through
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  drastically different stages. It used to be ocean a complete
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  ocean planet in the past prior to that, it had a very different
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  chemistry and environment and atmosphere.
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  Which had different chemical composition may be something
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  similar to the planet. Neptune.
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  And that That you know over millions of years billions of
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  years, this develops where that's through a you might call
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  to chemical Evolution where similar to in a star where they
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  say, you know, hydrogen Converse the helium of this sort of thing
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  that the planet used to be totally different.
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  The planet used to be like a gas giant planet and that develops
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  over time to where those chemicals.
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  Turn into huge oceans. Probably thousands if not more
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  miles deep covering the entire core of the planet and that's
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  where. So we're in is wherein.
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  They look sort of later stages of development on that where we
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  used to have an ocean planet completely covered in water.
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  And now we're coming out of that during the time of the
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  dinosaurs. For example, that was a major
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  transition out of this ocean world to something with more dry
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  land and that sort of thing. So that's what I think.
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  I think the idea that the Comets just there was one specific time
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  that all these comments hit. Earth, but not elsewhere.
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  All the same time is completely ludicrous.
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  It's ad hoc and I think it's ridiculous that people can take
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  it seriously. Okay, I would have to disagree
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  with some of that. I think it always created
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  instantly about 6,000 years ago. Water is absolutely a
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  stunningly, amazing substance. You know, normally Opposites
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  Attract and likes repel, if you think about it, water is H2O an
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  oxygen molecule and two hydrogen molecules, but it's in.
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  The shape looks like Mickey Mouse's head with the ears being
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  a hydrogen molecule. Wait, wait.
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  Wait. Why aren't the hydrogen's in a
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  straight line with the each other, or through the middle of
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  the oxygen? You would think it'd be strange.
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  Because they would repel each other.
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  They're both positively charged the hydrogen's but no there are
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  105 degree angle advice oscillates a little bit because
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  it 105 degree angle that causes it because 105 not 90 that
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  causes water when it frees us to connect in such a way that it
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  expands about 12%. I believe.
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  So, therefore it floats, if it was like all other molecules, it
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  would be straight line and it would it would freeze into a
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  kassala, that would sink. So water is a miraculous
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  molecule, I don't see any way you can.
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  How Explain how this could happen by chance and there's a
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  whole lot of it on this planet and none, anywhere else that we
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  see except maybe some ice meteors coming but they might
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  have come from the earth. When The Fountains of the deep
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  broke open, he might have shot him up into space and they're
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  still floating around, we don't know, but I think the oceans are
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  miraculous. The Bible says that God when God
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  made the Earth, it was let me find the verse here.
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  There was water above the heavens.
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  In the beginningless, he made the Stars, I got, slide 10,000
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  slides here, The Willetts golfers are willingly ignorant
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  of how God made the heavens and the Earth were standing out of
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  the water. And in the water our atmosphere
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  today has six layers. I think there used to be a
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  seventh layer of ice couple inches.
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  Thick above the atmosphere to protect the Earth, like a big
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  Greenhouse life was perfect. You go up about six miles and
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  it's a hundred degrees below zero right now over the Sahara
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  Desert. So there was a there's a heat.
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  I believe there was a crystalline canopy.
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  I teach this on my videos, seminar part 2 of my seminar
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  series. If you get that, the whole
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  series 50 buck. So this canopy of water would
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  stop some of the UV light coming in and would be one of the
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  reasons why they live to be. So so old, according to the
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  Bible, the lift to be 900 and there are many Legends in other
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  cultures about the Golden Age man used to live to be a
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  thousand. Well Bible says 969 was the max
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  but still I think this canopy above also there was water under
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  the cross Of the earth which I cover in my seminar part 2 about
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  super cold Isis, will float, a magnet in a magnetic field and
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  so the water underneath came shooting to the surface and
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  that's where Noah's flood water came from and people say, where
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  did all the water from the flood go it's it's still here.
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  The oceans are really, really big.
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  The Earth is 70% underwater right now, there's enough water
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  out there if you smooth out the Earth, it'd be a mile and a half
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  deep everywhere cleaner to drowned in 8,800 feet.
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  So I think The evidence for the Noah's flood is worldwide.
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  I think the flood is the only way to explain so many things
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  that we see. So I think all the water came
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  from the hand of God creating it out of nothing.
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  Okay. So I think that that's something
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  that can't and I could agree on like a saying, when you take a
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  look at the geological evidence, you're finding inner go to top
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  the mountains in, there's fish fossils, you know, there's
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  whale, there's whale skeletons. The, the continents themselves
• 20:10
  are covered with marine life. All over the place, you're
• 20:16
  finding the most, you know, this supposedly the most ancient.
• 20:22
  Fish fossils and whatnot, they're found, they're found on
• 20:25
  the continents and themselves are not found in the oceans.
• 20:29
  So I think that we may cut, like I said like I'm kind of
• 20:32
  repeating myself but we may come to this different conclusion
• 20:35
  terms of world view, but I think that we have there's a lot more
• 20:38
  overlapping in our beliefs here and how we're interpreting this
• 20:42
  that obviously. Yeah, the planet is mostly
• 20:45
  covered in water. That's a big deal.
• 20:47
  Why is, why is that not taken into consideration?
• 20:50
  I think, I think that Evidence of something drastic happened in
• 20:54
  the past and I think, I think Kat and I are both interested in
• 21:00
  dinosaurs and I think that this does play into that.
• 21:04
  I've been interested recently, there's some different ideas
• 21:06
  about, you know what to what extent dinosaurs had feathers
• 21:10
  and lived in aquatic environments and stuff like
• 21:13
  that. I Brett, I don't know if I hope
• 21:16
  you don't mind. If we can get a little bit of a
• 21:18
  back-and-forth going because I would you want to ask Kent a
• 21:21
  little bit of his thoughts. On that.
• 21:23
  Like how he how do you feel can't about to what extent
• 21:26
  dinosaurs may have had feathers or things like that?
• 21:30
  Okay, I don't think there's any evidence at all for dinosaurs
• 21:34
  having feathers, the word dinosaur means terrible.
• 21:36
  Lizard or Terry reptile. So they reptiles don't have
• 21:40
  feathers at all. They have protein keratin is
• 21:45
  fed. It can be made into lots of
• 21:47
  different things. Can be made into scales can be
• 21:48
  made into feather, but the fact that they're the same protein
• 21:51
  means nothing. I mean Iron is made up, makes up
• 21:53
  how many things are made out of iron this light stand made out
• 21:56
  of iron sold? My car does that prove they're
• 21:58
  related? No, it's a good building.
• 22:00
  So the dinosaurs I think always lived with man.
• 22:04
  They were called dragons or some other name till the word
• 22:07
  dinosaur was made up in 1841, but you mentioned about
• 22:10
  seashells on mountains. It's worse than that.
• 22:13
  There are petrified clams in the closed position on top of these
• 22:17
  mountains petrified close clams. How many of these do we have in
• 22:20
  our Museum brother? Hundreds, hundreds the place in
• 22:24
  Tennessee where there's a seam of petrified closed, clams, 10
• 22:28
  feet, thick for miles. Probably millions of them in
• 22:31
  there. They find petrified closed,
• 22:33
  clams on top of Mount. Everest, I don't think Mount
• 22:37
  Everest was there until after the flood in Psalms 104, at the
• 22:41
  end of the flood, it says the mountains are rose.
• 22:43
  The valley sank down, if you know the earth covered in water,
• 22:46
  say a mile deep. And all of a sudden or maybe
• 22:49
  even slowly. One place lifts up and one place
• 22:51
  goes down. The water is going to run off.
• 22:53
  Make this an ocean. This will be mountain range.
• 22:56
  It's interesting. If you look at the Earth, all
• 22:59
  the mountain ranges. Follow the coastlines.
• 23:02
  Why did the Rocky Mountains? Follow the North Pacific the
• 23:05
  Appalachian Mountains? Follow the South Pacific, I'm
• 23:07
  Appalachian. Follow the North Atlantic the
• 23:09
  Andes Mountains. Followed the South Pacific.
• 23:11
  I think the mountain range is formed at the end of the flood
• 23:14
  because the crust of the Earth was all cracked up.
• 23:17
  It still is today cracked up like an eggshell and that happen
• 23:19
  when The Fountains of the deep broke open.
• 23:21
  So I think the biblical account is clear.
• 23:25
  And then the stuff that is not spelled out exactly what
• 23:27
  happened here. I think we can interpolate it to
• 23:29
  say. Wow, this is Must this must have
• 23:31
  caused all of this. I think the flood formed all of
• 23:33
  the layers. You can get a jar.
• 23:35
  We did this for him to take the tour of our dinosaur Adventure
• 23:37
  Land. We have a jar with sand, gravel
• 23:41
  rocks, sand gravel clay and water.
• 23:44
  And we shake it up and let it sit within minutes.
• 23:47
  It forms layers, we have a couple of these things here in
• 23:50
  just minutes, it'll make 10, or 15 different layers.
• 23:54
  So the layers that we see all formed it one year in the flood.
• 23:58
  There's no such thing as a geologic column.
• 24:00
  There's no such thing as a Jurassic Period, no such thing,
• 24:04
  they all form. Quickly all over the world.
• 24:06
  Petrified trees are found standing up running through all
• 24:08
  these layers. It's baloney.
• 24:11
  It's a, it's a lie, made up in the 1800's to teach kids.
• 24:14
  The Earth is millions of years old, but the clams, I think our
• 24:17
  classic and they find the biggest oyster in the world.
• 24:21
  Today is 14 inches, world record, 13 .79 or something like
• 24:24
  that. They find fossil oysters in
• 24:26
  Peru, two miles above sea level, 11, ft 11.0, Esters something
• 24:33
  was different. Well the if they live to be 900
• 24:35
  and the people don't live to be 900 today and oysters today, get
• 24:38
  to 14 inches They find fossils of 11 feet to me that all fits
• 24:42
  perfectly fine with the Bible. I don't have a problem with
• 24:44
  that. I'm sorry.
• 24:45
  Took too much time. Go ahead.
• 24:47
  No, it's fine, it's an open discussion.
• 24:49
  You guys can take whatever time you need in order to be able to
• 24:52
  put forth your points. Both of you are doing fantastic.
• 24:55
  If you don't mind me saying mr. Adam, do you have any response
• 24:58
  to that? Or were you wearing a long?
• 25:00
  Yeah, actually. So, one thing I am especially
• 25:02
  interested to hear from Kent is I didn't realize can't that you
• 25:07
  basically, you don't agree that there even really is Is a
• 25:10
  geological column, right? You don't agree that there are
• 25:12
  different Jurassic and Cretaceous layers.
• 25:16
  Do you basically feel that there's not, you know, certain
• 25:23
  synapses, and then dinosaurs and then later mammals and stuff
• 25:26
  that they're even in that sequence or you like in other
• 25:29
  words, what? If there is a layering effect
• 25:34
  where there's different animals at different layers, what why
• 25:36
  would it do that or do you just you don't even accept it?
• 25:39
  There are different animals and different layers.
• 25:42
  Well, of course, there would be different animals in different
• 25:44
  layers. They would automatically be
• 25:45
  sorted based upon numerous factors body density.
• 25:49
  I'd be willing to bet. If all the animals died in a
• 25:51
  giant flood, the clams would end up on the bottom and the birds
• 25:53
  would end up on the top has nothing to do with Evolution.
• 25:56
  Clams are heavier than birds birds have hollow feathers
• 25:59
  hollow bones. Of course they're going to
• 26:00
  float. Plus the birds are the last Mr.
• 26:02
  Drowned, in a flood soon as something tragic happens.
• 26:05
  The clams clam up, and if they got buried under mud very
• 26:08
  quickly, they couldn't open and they're found petrified closed.
• 26:11
  So the geologic column does not exist the layers exist, and
• 26:15
  there is a little bit of sorting to it, but it could be based
• 26:17
  upon intelligence, clams aren't very smart missed, anybody can
• 26:20
  figure out and they based on Mobility clams can't run very
• 26:24
  fast and based upon the body density and habitat.
• 26:28
  They already live at the bottom of the ocean.
• 26:30
  Of course they're the first ones buried.
• 26:31
  That's where They live. So I think that they've
• 26:33
  completely misinterpreted the data were both looking at the
• 26:37
  same thing. Generally birds are found in the
• 26:39
  same layer. Okay.
• 26:41
  I agree. Not always, but generally, what
• 26:43
  does that prove? What to the evolutionist that
• 26:45
  proves they evolved into certain timeframe?
• 26:47
  No, that's proves. That was a big flood and they
• 26:50
  died and they float have hollow feathers.
• 26:52
  So, it's, how do you want to look at this evidence?
• 26:54
  How do you want to interpret it? And some people so badly?
• 26:57
  Want to not believe in God, they'll take anything except you
• 27:01
  know, Did it. And the flood the Bible says, in
• 27:04
  second Peter, the scoffers would be willingly ignorant of the
• 27:08
  creation, and the flood, the creation of the Earth.
• 27:11
  In six literal days is the only way it's going to work.
• 27:14
  Because I mean, I got geologic column right here at Sea sorting
• 27:18
  area the geological. You have plants that breathe in
• 27:23
  oxygen, or breathe in carbon dioxide and give off.
• 27:27
  Oxygen animals, breathe in oxygen.
• 27:29
  Give off CO2. We reciprocate the gases So, how
• 27:32
  can one live for millions of years without the other Bible
• 27:35
  says, plants made on day three animals made on day.
• 27:38
  Five, man made on day 6. No problem, not at all, but to
• 27:42
  have them coming slowly, evolving over millions of year
• 27:45
  and there are so many probably billion.
• 27:47
  Certainly millions of symbiotic. Relationships, were certain
• 27:50
  animals require certain plants. They can't live without him.
• 27:54
  Some plants require certain animals to pollinate them.
• 27:57
  It's just an incredibly complicated complex web that
• 28:00
  just looks like it was designed You know, the lug nuts on my
• 28:03
  Chevy are designed to fit on the lugs.
• 28:08
  They're designed for same thread, patterns, spacing, and
• 28:11
  all that kind of threat to how many threads per inch in the
• 28:13
  diameter, its design billions of things.
• 28:16
  Everything seems to be just designed and I don't know how
• 28:19
  people can't see it, boggles my mind, Yeah, I think that you'll
• 28:24
  see a lot of atheists even admit that it whether they believe in
• 28:27
  design or not. It definitely appears to have
• 28:29
  been designed, right? Can't do you.
• 28:33
  Do you think that all fossils are from the, from the Deluge?
• 28:37
  Or do you think there's pre diluvian, like, pre-flood
• 28:40
  fossils? I would say probably all the
• 28:44
  fossils are from the flood. I mean, I don't know of any
• 28:46
  examples of fossils being formed today, Animals are dying all the
• 28:50
  time. Billions of them die every day
• 28:53
  but they don't fossilize in order for anything to fossilize.
• 28:57
  It takes special conditions has to be buried quickly in mud.
• 29:02
  That is able to slowly absorb into the fossil and replace the,
• 29:06
  the bone cells as the cells. Decay the minerals in the ground
• 29:10
  soaked in and take its place. It's actually a complete
• 29:12
  replacement fossil. Is that what they're called?
• 29:14
  So this is a replacement fossil of a clam.
• 29:17
  There's also impression fossils. But they find fossilized insects
• 29:22
  in great detail. How many insects died today?
• 29:25
  And how many are going to fossilize?
• 29:27
  Not are going to fossilized. Not that we've never.
• 29:29
  We've never seen any fossilization in modern-day.
• 29:33
  Certainly in any great numbers and yet trillions and trillions
• 29:37
  of fossils exist in the ground. You look at diatomaceous earth.
• 29:40
  There's a seam in Southern California, I think it's what
• 29:43
  hundred feet thick of diatoms, which is really tiny creature
• 29:48
  microscopic. And 100 feet thick for miles and
• 29:51
  miles. Go to Lompoc California.
• 29:53
  So I think yeah there's no way to make a seam of dead diatoms.
• 29:57
  A hundred feet thick for Miles with other than to have rapid
• 30:01
  temperature change, and it cooked them all.
• 30:04
  And they sink to the bottom. The Bible says, The Fountains of
• 30:07
  the great deep broke open. I think the Earth's crust
• 30:10
  cracked open and the hot water inside, came shooting to the
• 30:12
  surface and it would kill everything within 50 miles of
• 30:15
  where it comes shooting out along these fault lines.
• 30:18
  So we would find very And San Andreas fault is right there in
• 30:21
  California. So we would find dead animals
• 30:24
  and dead plants and dead insects and dead microscopic creatures
• 30:27
  by the trillions because of the flood I couldn't, I wouldn't, I
• 30:31
  would never go out on a limb and say all the fossils are formed
• 30:33
  in the flood, but I don't know of any being formed today.
• 30:37
  Does anybody? Yeah, that's a really good
• 30:40
  point. I think you and I have a lot of
• 30:41
  overlap in terms of like you were saying that the crust
• 30:45
  splitting open. I think that had a like we kind
• 30:48
  of have a similar view that, you know, in the past there was
• 30:52
  these these major events dealing with tectonic activity and
• 30:57
  spreading and volcanic activity and a lot of water and stuff.
• 31:02
  So yeah, actually I can I do, I'm not too familiar with all
• 31:05
  your stuff by have been, kind of watching a couple debates and
• 31:08
  stuff. Watch them on a map Powell's
• 31:10
  recently, where he was talking about the distribution of some
• 31:15
  of the dinosaur fossils where you find them kind of in the
• 31:17
  center of the country there. I find a lot of that really
• 31:21
  interesting. And just you guys have me
• 31:23
  thinking like, why, why is soft tissue and blood and stuff
• 31:28
  preserved in these fossils that are supposedly, what 64, to,
• 31:31
  those 200 something million years ago, that I don't just
• 31:36
  dismiss that. Like, damn, that has me thinking
• 31:38
  about About you know, how what even is the process of
• 31:42
  fossilization that from what I understood.
• 31:44
  You can't preserve blood and soft tissue and all that in the
• 31:48
  fossilization process. So how are they finding these
• 31:51
  things? But on one thing I wanted to
• 31:52
  ask, you can't because you have, what is it called, dinosaur
• 31:55
  Adventure Land. Is that what you guys call the
• 31:58
  place out? The dinosaur Adventure Land
• 32:00
  Lennox, Alabama, population? 35 they sounds it sounds like a
• 32:06
  lot of fun. I'm curious.
• 32:09
  So you you have a lot of issues with evolutionary theory and
• 32:14
  mainstream science. The way you depict the dinosaurs
• 32:18
  and dinosaur Adventureland are there any differences compared
• 32:22
  to how dinosaurs maybe in a just a Richard Dawkins book or
• 32:29
  science standard science textbook might depict and like
• 32:32
  is there a way that you guys show them differently in a
• 32:34
  different environment? Or, you know, there's they read,
• 32:37
  they find these phones and they reconstruct what they think
• 32:39
  dinosaurs look like right. Do you guys reconstruct them
• 32:43
  differently and how you interpret it, or is it pretty
• 32:46
  similar to The Standard idea of what dinosaurs looked like
• 32:50
  before the whole dinosaur feather Renaissance?
• 32:53
  Were they kind of rear interpreted a lot of it.
• 32:56
  Yeah. As far as what, they Like I
• 32:58
  don't argue with them at all. It's not worth fighting over.
• 33:00
  I don't think they had feathers, it wouldn't be a dinosaur.
• 33:04
  Dinosaur means terrible, lizard and lizards don't have feathers
• 33:07
  that is complete baloney. I think some demons are having a
• 33:09
  competition who can make people believe that dumbest thing.
• 33:13
  You know, everybody came from a DOT, all right, you know, of
• 33:16
  nothing exploding. All right, one guy's probably
• 33:18
  said, I can make them. Believe dinosaurs had feathers?
• 33:20
  I think that's ridiculous. The shape of the Dinosaurs, the
• 33:23
  size of the dinosaurs. I don't think that's in question
• 33:25
  there have been some really big Big dinosaur bones found.
• 33:29
  I mean the creature would have been 60 feet tall there's 100
• 33:33
  feet long with counting the tail so there's just I don't think
• 33:35
  there's an argument over that as far as when they lived now
• 33:39
  there's where the argument is what they look like.
• 33:41
  I don't care, I don't worry about that.
• 33:44
  All right, Kent and Adam. If you don't mind, I'd like to
• 33:46
  ask you guys a question and if you guys want to make a U-turn
• 33:50
  and get back into some old or topics that it's fine.
• 33:53
  I don't know if either one of you've ever heard this claim.
• 33:55
  I've got a short up on my YouTube channel where you can
• 33:58
  see this being said and Stephen Hawking is actually on video
• 34:01
  saying this atheist. Stephen Hawking claimed before
• 34:05
  he died that our existence is a mathematical impossibility.
• 34:10
  Wouldn't that by definition be Find as a miracle.
• 34:17
  Yeah, that's a good point. I did, I don't know if I ever
• 34:19
  thought of it in those terms in terms of a miracle.
• 34:21
  But I think that fine-tuning problems are one of the biggest
• 34:26
  issues, with a lot of the standard consensus ideas in
• 34:31
  cosmology right now, actually, there's see if I can find it
• 34:35
  sometime, it's a good clip. There's a clip of Richard
• 34:38
  Dawkins talking about that, they're interviewing him and
• 34:41
  he's admitting that, you know, one of the biggest problems for
• 34:44
  science is the Two issues. If the fight the the
• 34:49
  unlikelihood of if you adjust the power of gravity and if just
• 34:53
  slightly change one little thing, everything just
• 34:56
  completely is chaotic and doesn't work.
• 34:59
  Those are major problems and they do they come up with like a
• 35:04
  Multiverse Theory to try to account for this.
• 35:07
  They have all these wacky ideas. This is I mean, there's a lot of
• 35:09
  stuff in the sort of mainstream consensus that I just think, is
• 35:13
  ridiculous. I think, At my personal view on
• 35:17
  it is that there isn't fine-tuning.
• 35:20
  There isn't all these different possibilities.
• 35:22
  You can't change the power of electromagnetism in comparison
• 35:27
  to gravity and the dimensions and all these things.
• 35:30
  Like there is no fine-tuning. I think that there's just one
• 35:34
  exact way that it works. And this is this is what we got,
• 35:38
  what it is, is what it is. We get what we get, we get what
• 35:41
  works and you can't adjust it. You can't slightly move things
• 35:45
  around because it It's like a puzzle piece it's like a puzzle
• 35:48
  and all the pieces have to fit together and I think the
• 35:54
  conventional view with Multiverse and fine-tuning oh
• 35:59
  it's tough. It just it doesn't hold up as an
• 36:05
  explanation of why was this particular Universe selected
• 36:09
  for? It's just not it gets outside of
• 36:12
  the realm of science. You can't, there's not a
• 36:13
  scientific answer if there's a mole.
• 36:16
  Diverse. It's completely non-scientific
• 36:18
  because your answer to any question in the science book
• 36:22
  could be. Why is it like this?
• 36:24
  Oh, because that's how it happens to be in this particular
• 36:27
  Universe, right? So it just, it just ends up not
• 36:30
  being science. I don't think it's a miracle
• 36:33
  necessarily. I think there's just one way
• 36:34
  that it, that it fits together. All right.
• 36:38
  Well Brett, I think we're going to get Adam.
• 36:42
  Converted is what's going to happen so that's what I'm hoping
• 36:45
  for. I think it'd be insane to say
• 36:48
  that the different parts of this ink pen happened independently
• 36:52
  by chance and they just did. Just that's the only way it
• 36:54
  works. This has to have the right
• 36:56
  thread pattern to screw onto here because that's the only way
• 36:58
  it works. No, this little piece was
• 37:00
  designed to screw on to the end of this pin, it was designed for
• 37:05
  that and I think that About us is designed, your eyeball is
• 37:09
  designed to fit in the eye socket.
• 37:11
  Your brain is designed to fit in the skull.
• 37:14
  Your muscles are designed to do what they do.
• 37:16
  I see design everywhere. I look see when I studied
• 37:19
  Anatomy or biology or physics or any of the universe or the
• 37:23
  planets or the plants I say, wow God you are so amazing.
• 37:28
  I don't have a problem. What I see a car that's made
• 37:31
  pretty cool. I say wow, that was a great idea
• 37:32
  who thought of that that was an amazing design on that car.
• 37:37
  I mean The guys who worked on the internal combustion engine,
• 37:40
  that's pretty smart. Those are a bunch of really
• 37:42
  smart guys, that developed that thing.
• 37:44
  I would never dream of taking the credit giving the credit to
• 37:47
  the engine itself. No, some smart people did that
• 37:50
  it's the same in trillions of other examples.
• 37:54
  It just the guy who made the computer, this thing's amazing.
• 37:57
  This coffee cup handle on the side hole in the middle to hold
• 38:00
  the water, I'd be willing to bet 50 bucks.
• 38:03
  This was designed and didn't have is made out of clay baked
• 38:06
  in the sun, you could do it. But it won't, it will never make
• 38:08
  itself. Just a coffee cup is clear
• 38:11
  evidence of a design. You compare this to a single
• 38:13
  cell in your body. Average person has probably 100
• 38:17
  trillion cells in their body. Each one is more complicated
• 38:21
  than the space shuttle. I think there was a designer and
• 38:24
  I know I'd like to introduce you to a Madam, he loves you, but
• 38:27
  he's going to be angry if you don't accept his offer of
• 38:28
  forgiveness based on what Jesus did, he's the judge your sin for
• 38:33
  that, you get out of it. If you hurry kids and Adam you
• 38:36
  both have Thing extremely in common with one another can pu
• 38:42
  you question. The things that are asserted in
• 38:45
  science, Adam, although he's an atheist, he questions a lot of
• 38:49
  things about the claims that are made up there.
• 38:52
  And I noticed that whenever Adam does this, or you do this, when
• 38:56
  you question, a people seem to take this radical approach of
• 39:02
  getting personal nasty, ignored, all these kind of things, and I
• 39:05
  don't understand it because You're honoring God and you're
• 39:09
  also honoring science because the whole point is for us to
• 39:12
  think and question things, how do you explain that?
• 39:16
  Why would people become angry or disposed when questioning?
• 39:20
  Because isn't that the very way to make science better?
• 39:24
  Go ahead. Yeah, I think I agree here.
• 39:30
  I don't have anything to add to that but I just, I agree.
• 39:36
  Well, anything you should be able to question anything.
• 39:39
  Any good scientist question at all?
• 39:42
  That's when they squelch the ability to even question and in
• 39:45
  the minds of some of these people, evolution is a fact,
• 39:48
  don't question it right there. You got a cult, you don't have a
• 39:52
  science. It's a religious belief
• 39:55
  evolution is. It's a religious belief system.
• 39:57
  There's nobody's ever seen a cow produce a non cow or a dog
• 40:00
  produce a non dog. It's never been seen no Farmer
• 40:04
  in the history of the world. I will tell you his cow produced
• 40:08
  a non cow or came from a non cow.
• 40:10
  No farmer it just it it's science is things.
• 40:14
  We can observe study test demonstrate, science comes from
• 40:18
  the Latin word Seer which means to know what do we know?
• 40:21
  We know dogs produce dogs, we know cows produce cows, now that
• 40:25
  we know, but they got charts in the book, showing the cow and
• 40:29
  the dog going back to an amoeba. We don't know that you can
• 40:33
  believe that, and then they have this amoeba coming from
• 40:35
  Nonliving material out of the soup in the ocean.
• 40:38
  We don't know that they can't even make life in the
• 40:40
  laboratory. One atheist, I was debating said
• 40:43
  hovind. If they do make life in the
• 40:44
  laboratory, what are you going to say?
• 40:46
  Then I said well that's going to prove it took intelligence to
• 40:50
  make life, isn't it? Yeah, that's all it can.
• 40:53
  There's science deals with what we know.
• 40:55
  We know we can't make life. We know every living thing we've
• 41:00
  ever observed produces offspring that are the same.
• 41:03
  What anybody would consider the same kind.
• 41:05
  Before we get into the argument, exactly what's a kind?
• 41:08
  There's no clear definition of species either.
• 41:09
  I covered that about a week ago on my YouTube channel, Kent,
• 41:12
  hovind official. The definition of species has
• 41:15
  never been clearly clearly given.
• 41:17
  So God said they bring forth after their kind.
• 41:19
  I believe that. So I think it's ridiculous to
• 41:22
  it's okay to I'll question anything.
• 41:24
  I question everything about the Bible.
• 41:26
  Say the Bible says this, I don't believe.
• 41:27
  Okay, send your questions, I'm not afraid to question it so far
• 41:31
  my 53 years of study in that book.
• 41:33
  I said, whoa. God must have written that
• 41:36
  because there's no mistakes. It's flawless.
• 41:39
  I believe that. And I'll debate anybody on that
• 41:42
  one. But anyway, different topic.
• 41:43
  Go ahead and um, do you have any responses?
• 41:46
  Or would you like me to continue like it?
• 41:49
  I can add to that. I think that.
• 41:50
  Yeah. So Brett like you were saying
• 41:52
  before I do get Flack for just you know supposedly atheists are
• 41:56
  supposed to be free thinkers and Skeptics and critical thinkers
• 42:00
  but almost everyone just goes with the mainstream consensus
• 42:03
  view on it and they just kind of The same stuff most atheists are
• 42:07
  not critical thinkers and Skeptics like.
• 42:10
  I look at evolutionary theory as it is today.
• 42:12
  And I see a lot of major major problems.
• 42:16
  The origin of life is a major problem as they have it
• 42:19
  currently the Cambrian explosion is just completely almost.
• 42:24
  I mean, you can't have the evolutionary theory as it is now
• 42:29
  without you basically, I think you need go and add to it that
• 42:33
  we need new principles and they You can't get you can't get the
• 42:37
  results with just what Darwin and everybody's saying like
• 42:40
  there's made it needs a major overhaul because what is
• 42:44
  observed is not. A gradual slow change.
• 42:49
  You sudden you see no change at all for billions of years.
• 42:52
  And then suddenly in the cambrics Cambrian explosion, you
• 42:56
  see, like almost every type of animals suddenly on the scene
• 43:01
  with no development, leading up to it like that needs an
• 43:04
  explanation. The, the oxygen levels might
• 43:07
  have been slightly different, or now, there's a little bit more
• 43:10
  calcium. That's not a, that's not an
• 43:11
  explanation, you need a real hardcore serious explanation of
• 43:15
  how that can happen. Like, There's major issues like
• 43:17
  that. When you look at the fossil
• 43:19
  record, like, like can't was just saying, like, I'm totally
• 43:22
  on board with what can't sing because I'm frustrated about
• 43:24
  this. I've become very interested in
• 43:26
  dinosaurs recently and I go and I look at these skeletons and
• 43:32
  then they show you the white part where it's like the two
• 43:34
  little fragments of a bone is what they actually found and
• 43:37
  everything else is reconstructed.
• 43:38
  You see these diagrams of where it all came from and then you
• 43:42
  see the actual fossil evidence compared to that and there's
• 43:45
  little It's of fossils that they found kind of all at the same
• 43:48
  time in the same place and everything else is just
• 43:51
  hypothetical lineages that go back.
• 43:54
  Milk, hundreds of millions of years with.
• 43:56
  No, there's no fossil evidence there.
• 44:00
  So it really is like frustrating to try to get deep into the
• 44:04
  subject and then you try to look into a deeper and it's found
• 44:07
  laughing. Like, I think that a lot of
• 44:10
  people believe that we just have it all figured out and there's
• 44:13
  so much that isn't figured out in mainstream.
• 44:16
  It's and yeah, I totally understand and can see where,
• 44:21
  guys, I can't are coming from to question all this and have an
• 44:24
  alternative. I think the idea that a god did
• 44:27
  was a designer and did all that is probably more reasonable than
• 44:32
  what you get from the sort of standard consensus Big Bang,
• 44:36
  just accept 00. Cambrian explosion was just a
• 44:40
  slightly different than oxygen and calcium.
• 44:42
  I think that it's really lacking, and I question a lot of
• 44:45
  it and I want to know the answers.
• 44:46
  Like I believe there's a scientific explanation.
• 44:48
  I think that there was Evolution.
• 44:50
  I do think that certain kinds, you know, I get where can't say
• 44:54
  to it's like on a common-sense level, a dog comes from a dog,
• 45:00
  the idea that some sponger are weird, worm thing is like your
• 45:05
  ancestor and it turned into a dog is really weird, and I don't
• 45:11
  know, I think it needs. I think it needs more
• 45:14
  substantiation to be Good about so confidently.
• 45:18
  As oh, we've proven everything, we got it.
• 45:19
  All figured out, there's a lot of work that needs to be done.
• 45:23
  There's something called the I set you.
• 45:26
  I say you guys some notes on it, the extended synthesis of
• 45:31
  evolution. There's some newer ideas about
• 45:33
  adding some new principals to it.
• 45:35
  And it looks like that's the direction that they're going.
• 45:37
  Because they're finding that, you know, You can't have
• 45:41
  beneficial mutations most of the time most of the time the
• 45:43
  mutations don't lead to a beneficial mutation so they need
• 45:47
  a new Meg like they're coming up with these new mechanisms where
• 45:52
  it's a little bit more like the early versions of lamarckism or
• 45:55
  whatever, we're like you're in epigenetics, I don't know.
• 45:58
  It's all, it's all being, it's all going through a major
• 46:00
  overhaul and the current theory just doesn't really do what its
• 46:04
  people exclaiming. It's supposed to be able to do
• 46:06
  so. Yeah I think I think we need to
• 46:08
  have more critical thinking and more This is MM may I ask you
• 46:12
  lovely gentlemen, a favor. I appreciate the response.
• 46:17
  It sound like you put a lot of thought into where you're coming
• 46:21
  from on this. But whenever someone's talking
• 46:24
  can you guys meet your microphone?
• 46:26
  If you look below, you'll see a mute button.
• 46:29
  I can hit stream yards. The reason why I ask this is
• 46:32
  because you guys are starting to cause feedback on each other and
• 46:36
  I don't want it to hurt the audience's here.
• 46:38
  You guys have some great things. People saying here there at the
• 46:43
  very bottom of the screen, we might have stopped and mom like
• 46:47
  mute whoever's having that issue.
• 46:49
  Okay, so when he, what he's talking, we should mute my mic.
• 46:53
  Yeah. You just scroll down your mouse
• 46:55
  and click the mic like that and they had them the same for you.
• 46:58
  Just go down, click the mute button and then you'll come to
• 47:01
  absolutely clear because people need to hear what you guys is.
• 47:04
  Thoughts are on this. Go ahead, would you like to
• 47:07
  respond to him about the Cambrian Period?
• 47:09
  The Explosion of all this life with seemingly.
• 47:14
  No time to be able to have all this what you thought.
• 47:21
  Can your commuted? Go ahead.
• 47:23
  You were glad okay if he's into free thinking with this is
• 47:29
  wonderful. First of all, but he will not
• 47:31
  fit in with atheist Community. They are not allowed free
• 47:35
  thinking. You're not allowed to even think
• 47:37
  there might be a God. Okay, I'll take them all of them
• 47:40
  on at the same time. So thank you.
• 47:41
  We're getting converted here. There's no such thing as a
• 47:43
  Cambrian explosion. There was a flood that destroyed
• 47:47
  everything and afterwards. They got off the ark and the
• 47:50
  animals are. Did in the fossil record, a
• 47:51
  little bit by body density or habitat or Mobility or
• 47:54
  intelligence but it's that's it, nothing ever evolves into
• 47:58
  anything else never. So there is no such thing as a
• 48:02
  fossil record. There are trillions of fossils
• 48:04
  but it's not a record. None of the fossils that have
• 48:06
  ever been found have a date, stamped on them, or come with a
• 48:11
  biography biography where, you know, who is it are interested,
• 48:15
  they don't have a time on them, our interpretation is put on
• 48:18
  them and so far nearly all the Fossils are like something
• 48:22
  that's alive today. Only generally, bigger biggest
• 48:24
  hurdle in the world, today's 5-foot, they find fossil
• 48:27
  Turtles, 15 feet. Something was different.
• 48:31
  Before the Flood came, I think he mentioned about finding
• 48:35
  fragments and making the dinosaurs.
• 48:37
  I agree. He's right.
• 48:39
  I don't think it's worth arguing about but you got to understand
• 48:41
  if you find, if you spend years out, digging in the dirt,
• 48:45
  looking for a bone and you finally find one, my dog does
• 48:47
  that too by the way, but if you spend years Looking for a bone,
• 48:51
  you would like to become famous for it.
• 48:53
  So they look for some way to make it into a brand new
• 48:56
  dinosaur based on a few little tiny fragments because there's
• 48:59
  just no way to get rich or to become famous in that field
• 49:03
  without finding a new one. Nobody news knows who found the
• 49:07
  seventh brachiosaur. Who found the first brachiosaur?
• 49:11
  Now that guy's famous but the rest of it doesn't matter if I'm
• 49:13
  glad for that. As far as needing a beneficial
• 49:15
  mutations, nobody's ever seen one of those either all the
• 49:18
  mutations are harmful fatal or Neutral nobody's ever seen a
• 49:22
  beneficial one. If you had a beneficial one, and
• 49:25
  it would take trillions of them to turn an amoeba to a whale.
• 49:28
  If you had a beneficial mutation, who's are going to
• 49:31
  marry You got to have to at the same time in the same place on
• 49:35
  this big planet of the opposite sex and they got to find each
• 49:38
  other and be interested. You got a bunch of problems to
• 49:41
  make. This mutations is not going to
• 49:42
  cause anything to help Evolution.
• 49:44
  It's always negative downhill. Losing its losing information.
• 49:49
  Always, harmful fatal, or neutral.
• 49:51
  It's not gaining anything. I agree.
• 49:53
  It needs a major overhaul. I've been trying for a long
• 49:56
  time. Let's see.
• 49:57
  You start in 1989 with my creation Ministry.
• 50:00
  What's that long time. I want to do.
• 50:02
  Major overall start from scratch, guys.
• 50:05
  God made the world. I was destroyed by a big flood.
• 50:08
  The water that was under the crust of the earth and the
• 50:10
  original Creation, Bible says, he stretched out the Earth above
• 50:13
  the waters, that's the water that was laid up in store
• 50:17
  houses, inside the earth. That's where the flood water
• 50:19
  came from. And there are still a lot of
• 50:21
  water stuck down in the crust of the earth.
• 50:24
  They drill down, you get a well, you got, they find a lot.
• 50:26
  So they say there's probably 10, oceans worth of water still in
• 50:30
  the crust of the Earth. In the days of Noah, The
• 50:32
  Fountains of the deep broke open.
• 50:34
  I think that's what caused the death of all the creatures and
• 50:37
  buried them in layers. Just the tide going up and down,
• 50:42
  Noah was in The Arc for 880. Title changes.
• 50:46
  If the tide changed, 880 times up down, which means the water
• 50:50
  has to come in out to fill that big bump.
• 50:52
  It would make all these layers in weeks/months not millions of
• 50:56
  years. Okay, go ahead.
• 51:00
  All right, my next question for you guys having to do with
• 51:03
  abiogenesis and then we can we can jump back into this.
• 51:07
  If you don't mind the process of random genetic mutation is
• 51:12
  extremely complex with multiple Pathways involving more than one
• 51:16
  system, current research suggests no notices.
• 51:20
  A suggest most spontaneous mutations occur as errors in the
• 51:26
  repair process process of damage.
• 51:28
  DNA. Can anyone explain Humans and
• 51:31
  animal bodies are capable of repair healing or supposedly
• 51:35
  creating anatomical structures from mistakes or errors.
• 51:40
  Thank you, continue. Our an atom you first and then
• 51:42
  can't I don't have a whole lot to say about this but I do think
• 51:46
  that we can explain that. I think it's just, it's complex
• 51:49
  and there's a lot to get into, but I'm like I was saying
• 51:52
  before, you know, and my notes that I shared with you guys,
• 51:57
  there's this concept of evolve of ability that is added to the
• 52:02
  new evolutionary synthesis where they kind of, you know, you're
• 52:07
  saying it's mostly these errors and stuff.
• 52:10
  They're they're trying to improve upon the theory where
• 52:14
  they're trying to take that into account into account and
• 52:20
  hypothesizing, a new process that kind of helps guide that,
• 52:27
  but all I can just say, I don't rely on this topic.
• 52:30
  I don't Know too much about it. So I will just kind of bow out
• 52:33
  on that subject because I just don't know.
• 52:35
  But I do think that, you know, if the question is, can it be
• 52:38
  explained? I think they're, you know,
• 52:40
  there's probably an explanation, but it's probably pretty complex
• 52:43
  and just the process of it. Would you guys if you guys need
• 52:48
  me to not, I hope that you don't take this as a fence.
• 52:51
  Would you like me to simplify the question?
• 52:56
  Fine with me. I think that was fine.
• 52:59
  There's no evidence of Life getting started from nonliving
• 53:02
  material. None.
• 53:03
  They can't even make it happen in the laboratory.
• 53:05
  If they could, they would prove it takes intelligence to make
• 53:08
  life. The not only life, but the
• 53:10
  repair process to live in this world where you're going to get
• 53:13
  hurt the healing process. The first person to get cut and
• 53:17
  start bleeding, would not have had the mecca complex mechanism
• 53:22
  of sealing up the wound and healing It would take billions
• 53:26
  of years for that to evolve because nobody had it.
• 53:30
  So all you have to do is get one injury external or internal and
• 53:32
  you would bleed to death. I think it's just it's I'm
• 53:36
  amazed at intelligent otherwise intelligent people can believe
• 53:39
  that happened by chance. I them stun it's a special kind
• 53:42
  of stupid in my book. Go ahead.
• 53:45
  Do you have any response that you would like to give Adam or
• 53:48
  show you have the next thing and I appreciate responses.
• 53:51
  Go ahead yeah in terms of abiogenesis and and kind of
• 53:54
  getting things started you think that the attempts today and the
• 53:59
  explanations were hearing are lacking and the there's a,
• 54:03
  there's an issue with the kind of assume An environment.
• 54:07
  Very similar to Earth today. I think that if you go back
• 54:12
  further in the past Earth was drastically different.
• 54:15
  I don't think that you can get an earthlike environment and
• 54:21
  just the lightning strikes the pond or whatever the hell they
• 54:24
  think like ridiculous stuff like that, that it just it just oh it
• 54:27
  just forms these DNA things. Like I think it's a much longer
• 54:32
  process. I think that the chemistry and
• 54:34
  the pressure and the heat was so Rip back then it's almost more
• 54:38
  like you got to go back to something.
• 54:39
  Almost like the planet Jupiter or something.
• 54:42
  Where you know it's just was it isn't They think of the planet
• 54:49
  Earth as a rock with with some water on top of it.
• 54:53
  And that's, that's not going to form life.
• 54:56
  Like, if you actually go and read the guy that had the, what
• 54:59
  is it called the primordial ooze, or the primordial soup,
• 55:02
  the origin of Life? Alexander Oberon.
• 55:06
  He was a Soviet scientist back of that.
• 55:09
  He's very he's very well known for his ideas of You know,
• 55:14
  abiogenesis and the chemistry of forming life and later, the, you
• 55:20
  guys probably know better than I do.
• 55:21
  Can't. You know, that's like the you
• 55:22
  lie experiments. Where they did those.
• 55:25
  I don't know. They tried to synthesize.
• 55:30
  The chemistry that would form life.
• 55:32
  Anyways, if you actually go back and read Oprah and what he
• 55:34
  actually believed in and what he wrote in his books and in his
• 55:38
  papers, he believed and he he he was talking about something
• 55:42
  totally different. He was not talking about, rock
• 55:46
  planet, with a little bit of water on top and slightly
• 55:48
  different chemistry, Oprah and taught that the, the planet
• 55:52
  Earth used to be a star. The planet Earth you went
• 55:54
  through a phase where it was a star and then it was like,
• 55:57
  Jupiter. And then it was like, Neptune.
• 55:59
  And that's the That came up with these processes of that.
• 56:03
  What chemistry is needed to form life from, you know, nonliving
• 56:08
  matter and stuff. And I think that somehow along
• 56:12
  the way a lot of that got lost and it's just this idea of
• 56:15
  lightning striking a pond or whatever and and I think can't
• 56:20
  and or Matt Powell recently putting out issues with that.
• 56:22
  Where it's like, just the basic idea that water is going to
• 56:26
  dissolve. You know, DNA is a major issue
• 56:30
  that they're just kind of contending with.
• 56:35
  I think that you need a totally different environment different.
• 56:39
  I think pressure might be a big part of it that, you know, the
• 56:43
  pressure on a planet like Jupiter or something.
• 56:45
  Is so just so totally different than once you get to a much
• 56:49
  smaller ocean world or a smaller Planet Lake like the planet
• 56:54
  Earth. But yeah, look if anyone's
• 56:55
  interested in some of the stuff look into what Fran actually
• 56:58
  wrote in the origins of life. He believed in Stellar
• 57:01
  metamorphosis, he believed that stars turn into planets and
• 57:05
  planets are leftover, stars planets, are Stellar remnants.
• 57:10
  It's a chemical Evolution and that is sort of a sort of see
• 57:15
  through into these ideas of the origins of life.
• 57:18
  In the primordial soup. The primordial soup is not what
• 57:21
  you think it has to do with. Stellar Metamorphoses, it has to
• 57:25
  do with going from a Ian from something like Jupiter to
• 57:29
  something like a ocean world. So, Brother Kent as well as Adam
• 57:35
  a person out there put for something that's going along
• 57:38
  with the next question. Atheists and their religion
• 57:41
  believe matter, created itself, totally dismissing.
• 57:44
  The first law of thermodynamics Evolution does seem to get in
• 57:48
  the face of actual observable laws that we have in natural
• 57:52
  laws. It also goes against the second
• 57:54
  law such as entropy where there's disorder is a going
• 57:59
  against set of organization, all that Which flies in the face,
• 58:03
  What is your views on that? Does evolution that go against
• 58:06
  several different, observable things that we that we deal with
• 58:11
  in science? Brother Kent as well as Adam.
• 58:19
  Go ahead, Adam. I'm sorry.
• 58:23
  Could you just really briefly repeat the question Brett.
• 58:26
  I was okay, so graphic real quick.
• 58:28
  Alright, so as we know, no one is ever.
• 58:30
  Observed snot on a rock, turn into a fish, and then jump up on
• 58:35
  land become a shrew or any of these kind of things.
• 58:37
  No one's ever observed, that and of course, the catch is, it
• 58:40
  takes billions a year. So unless you got a really old
• 58:42
  camera or a time traveler, it's not going to happen.
• 58:45
  The question obviously, is when we got when we look at the first
• 58:50
  law of thermodynamics, as well as Wow, anthropy.
• 58:53
  And then we've also about the concept of energy give you an
• 58:58
  example, the claim is energy cannot be created or destroyed.
• 59:01
  However, if the Big Bang Theory happened and we go along with
• 59:05
  Lawrence Krauss and some of these atheists handful of
• 59:08
  atheist scientist out. Here are stating that everything
• 59:10
  came from nothing well that goes against energy, cannot be
• 59:14
  created or destroyed. So Evolution kind of slaps other
• 59:18
  laws that are observable right in the face.
• 59:21
  It's There's a huge conflict here.
• 59:24
  Do you guys get what I'm talking about?
• 59:26
  I see where you're coming from. So going back to Alexander
• 59:29
  Oberon. He's so fundamental to all this
• 59:31
  when you're talking about abiogenesis and stuff up and
• 59:35
  says that living organisms are open systems, right?
• 59:38
  And so, they must receive energy and materials from outside of
• 59:42
  themselves. So, therefore, they're not
• 59:44
  limited by the second law of Thermodynamics Brett, but yeah.
• 59:48
  Just, I don't know too much in depth about all this.
• 59:51
  I think that I can Get you pointed in the right direction
• 59:54
  if you want to find out what's going on, I think.
• 59:57
  Yeah, you can't observe something that takes a billion
• 59:59
  years of you only live up to 100 years but I think in the
• 1:00:02
  laboratory they can synthesize some of these things.
• 1:00:04
  They can put certain basic chemicals in a certain
• 1:00:09
  situation, an individual situation if you will bread.
• 1:00:14
  So I do. I'm trying not to try not to
• 1:00:16
  talk about and have fun. We have fun if you do if you put
• 1:00:22
  Certain basic chemicals in a scenario.
• 1:00:26
  It can lead to these different amino acids and stuff like that,
• 1:00:30
  but I think that they just they're not there.
• 1:00:33
  They're pretty far from getting it figured out but I do think
• 1:00:36
  that you can see little pieces of it.
• 1:00:37
  You know, you can make, you can see some of these things.
• 1:00:41
  Observe, I know that can't argues that, well, that requires
• 1:00:43
  intelligence. But the basic idea is if you
• 1:00:45
  just have an environment with the right heat and pressure,
• 1:00:49
  whatever you have the right chemicals in there.
• 1:00:52
  If that was the environment, what is going to happen after
• 1:00:54
  that? Right?
• 1:00:55
  And we do see things like and again this is something I'm not
• 1:01:00
  that informed on. So I don't know too much about
• 1:01:03
  it. But but you do see things like
• 1:01:06
  the development of amino acids and stuff and these sugars and
• 1:01:10
  certain things that are fundamental to life.
• 1:01:13
  So I don't think the science is there yet on it, but I do think
• 1:01:17
  that we can observe week in principle.
• 1:01:19
  Can we observe these things? Yeah.
• 1:01:21
  I think if they really do what to do, they could get the
• 1:01:25
  pressure, right and the heat, right?
• 1:01:26
  And the chemistry, right? And they could straight up just
• 1:01:29
  synthesize an amoeba or whatever.
• 1:01:31
  They from start with hydrogen and methane and ammonia and
• 1:01:35
  straight-up, make an amoeba out of it.
• 1:01:40
  All right, brother. Kent and mr.
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  Adam, can you both do me a favor?
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  I'm going to need to take two minutes away.
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  Just real quick, help. The wife bringing some
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  groceries. Can you guys take over the show?
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  Sure, I guess it's my turn. Yes, sir.
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  Help the always, always keep the wife, happy brother.
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  I think there is zero evidence that matter can create itself.
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  There's zero evidence that mattre can organize itself.
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  Even by adding energy, if I took all this, if I took my watch
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  completely apart but all the little pieces in a bag and shook
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  it for 500 years. Would it ever reassemble itself
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  to get an amino acid to come together by Chance?
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  The chance is zero. Will never happen.
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  First of all, the individual parts of that amino acid each
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  individual atom is really complex and specially designed
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  with all the electron in different orbitals.
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  You know, all just exactly design and all charged properly.
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  The fact that in a atom, you have all the positively charged
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  particles, the protons in the middle in a nucleus.
• 1:02:44
  Hello, like charges repel. The why don't the positives of
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  the proton blow up or the proton?
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  Why don't they explode away from each other?
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  The very concept of just atoms is mind-boggling in their
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  complexity and then when they combine to make other elements
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  and other materials, it's stunning I'd say it's impossible
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  that they could form by chance. If somebody wishes to believe
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  that that's fine. But my objection is, they keep
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  calling it science, they put this stuff in science.
• 1:03:17
  Looks like this textbook. The unit current Universe came
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  into existence about 14 billion years ago everybody's paying for
• 1:03:25
  these books to be printed and given to the kids to study from
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  this isn't science. This is a religion mix right in
• 1:03:33
  with our public school textbook. If somebody wishes to believe
• 1:03:36
  that fine you can believe what you want but they should teach
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  that in private schools to kids for kids who pay to come learn
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  it. I don't want to pay for that
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  book. That's baloney.
• 1:03:47
  Do you? Reverse came into existence.
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  I'll tell you what bring anything into existence from
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  nothing. Tell.
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  All the scientists in the world. I'll give him a hundred dollars
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  if they can bring a particle into existence from nothing.
• 1:04:00
  It can't be done. Let alone the whole universe,
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  there's a lot of stuff out here, you know, it's a pretty big
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  planet. We're standing on compared to
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  the other ones. It's not very big but it's
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  pretty big compared to us. And I think it's just stunning.
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  That people can believe that they're welcome to believe it.
• 1:04:15
  I'm not. This is the land.
• 1:04:16
  This is America. The End of the free and the home
• 1:04:18
  of the slave. You can believe what you want
• 1:04:20
  but that's not science and it's certain not right to make
• 1:04:23
  everybody pay for that to be taught.
• 1:04:25
  I think it ought to be if evolution should be taught at
• 1:04:27
  all, it should be in private schools to those who want to pay
• 1:04:30
  income, learn it. Get out of all the public
• 1:04:32
  schools, all the public museums if it's publicly funded, should
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  not be able to allowed to teach anything about creation or
• 1:04:38
  evolution. But bigger question is should we
• 1:04:41
  have public schools? But okay, if we're going to have
• 1:04:43
  them then don't talk about Origins.
• 1:04:46
  You can talk about all the anatomy boys and girls.
• 1:04:48
  This is the deltoid in the biceps and the triceps in the
• 1:04:51
  humerus and the femur, and that you can teach all the bones and
• 1:04:53
  the muscles and the nerve and they say, kids his teacher.
• 1:04:56
  How do we get there? We're not allowed to talk about
• 1:04:57
  that but memorize that's the deltoid.
• 1:04:59
  Yes teacher. Okay no doctor on the planet
• 1:05:03
  thinks about Evolution while he's doing surgery, he just
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  better know his Anatomy which has nothing to do with that.
• 1:05:10
  Lotion. Nothing whatsoever.
• 1:05:12
  Go ahead. No, I think you have some good
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  points like I don't know about completely taking it a textbooks
• 1:05:19
  to that extent by it. I get frustrated when I'm
• 1:05:21
  reading or you know watching a documentary or watching Bill Nye
• 1:05:24
  the Science Guy or Neil deGrasse, Tyson the way they
• 1:05:27
  Proclaim these things, as if in this like such a confident,
• 1:05:31
  dogmatic way. At the very least, they could
• 1:05:34
  put some more question marks in there and be like, hey, this is
• 1:05:38
  where it's at. Currently cosmology is sort of
• 1:05:41
  it as a science is in its infancy.
• 1:05:43
  You know, if you go back 20 years, the estimated age of the
• 1:05:47
  universe was completely different.
• 1:05:49
  If you go back 30 years, what they thought the age of the
• 1:05:52
  Earth was was way younger like they're trying to figure this
• 1:05:56
  out and it's you know it's not this established proof thing.
• 1:06:00
  So I do think that the wording of that at the very least should
• 1:06:02
  be adjusted to where they're more honest.
• 1:06:05
  About look these are the things we know for sure and we have the
• 1:06:08
  actual empirical evidence for these are the things that are
• 1:06:11
  hypothetical and they're they're guessing.
• 1:06:13
  And there are different Alternatives, that might be
• 1:06:18
  possible. Like there's other models, that
• 1:06:20
  might fit this, you know, but I think the idea of all this Just
• 1:06:25
  Happening by chance or something, just Two particles
• 1:06:30
  poofing out of nothing like they say like it's just yeah it's
• 1:06:33
  just completely ridiculous, it's it's completely absurd.
• 1:06:37
  Its it boggles the mind, how do such intelligent people actually
• 1:06:44
  believe this crap? Like, how can they say that?
• 1:06:48
  And they actually believe it. So, yeah, I think that.
• 1:06:54
  Okay, your mutant. Why I'm here?
• 1:06:58
  Okay. As far as anybody can figure
• 1:07:08
  out. There's only two choices.
• 1:07:10
  There is a God or there isn't Nobody's thought of a third
• 1:07:15
  choice. There is a God or there.
• 1:07:17
  Isn't you think of another one? Let me know.
• 1:07:19
  I'd like to hear that. So, if there's a God, that would
• 1:07:21
  mean, he owns the place he created it, he owns it, he can
• 1:07:24
  make the rules, you know, like that, thou shalt not, who some
• 1:07:28
  people don't like his rules. So, they will deny his
• 1:07:31
  existence, which is complete, lack of common sense.
• 1:07:34
  If I said, nobody made this ink pen, That's that's ridiculous.
• 1:07:39
  I don't know who made it. I don't care actually but I know
• 1:07:41
  somebody made it. I'd be willing to bet money on
• 1:07:43
  that every single part was designed to fit together to make
• 1:07:46
  any pain. It's just common sense.
• 1:07:49
  Everything about your body was designed not only can we, you
• 1:07:53
  have a brain that can think about things and it can think
• 1:07:57
  about what it's thinking about, think about that.
• 1:08:00
  You can actually pass judgment on your thoughts.
• 1:08:04
  How did that happen? You can say that was a good
• 1:08:06
  thought. About two animals do that?
• 1:08:09
  No, there's something very different about man, Adam.
• 1:08:12
  I think you're going to end up getting converted and be a
• 1:08:14
  creationist. This is going to be great.
• 1:08:16
  Come on down. Visit dinosaur Adventure Land.
• 1:08:17
  Go ahead. You just might convert me.
• 1:08:21
  Let's see. Hey maybe I convert you to
• 1:08:23
  Hinduism or something K. Who knows if I was ever in the
• 1:08:26
  area, be interesting to check out the place but yeah, I don't
• 1:08:32
  know. I think we have a lot of overlap
• 1:08:34
  in terms of what's going. Going on.
• 1:08:37
  I kind of had a loss of train of thought, because someone kept
• 1:08:40
  asking this question, I want to address just real quick about,
• 1:08:43
  do I believe in Noah's flood? I, I think that the Bible as you
• 1:08:50
  go further back is less, historically accurate.
• 1:08:53
  I think that the Bible is, you know, probably based like stuff
• 1:08:58
  from the Adam and Eve, and Noah, and those times, I think, I
• 1:09:02
  think it's more likely that those are at least based on real
• 1:09:05
  people and You know, like Adam might have been some King and
• 1:09:10
  then Seth was the next king or so.
• 1:09:12
  Like I don't think it's just made up.
• 1:09:14
  I think that the flood with Noah and you see it in different
• 1:09:17
  cultures with the Sumerian version with who has not pitched
• 1:09:22
  em and stuff and Gilgamesh. Like I think that there probably
• 1:09:25
  was some kind of historical event, probably more like a
• 1:09:28
  local flood but what I think is that creationists are onto
• 1:09:33
  something when they when they take a look at the geological
• 1:09:37
  evidence And they're like look there's evidence that the world
• 1:09:40
  was covered in water that needs to be taken very seriously.
• 1:09:44
  It doesn't mean you have to come to the conclusion of it of
• 1:09:46
  creationism but yeah the world that the planet was covered in
• 1:09:49
  water completely and there's Marine stuff everywhere on the
• 1:09:54
  planet. It's like we live on an ocean
• 1:09:56
  planet that there was something very similar to a flood
• 1:09:59
  worldwide flood, there is some at least one significant event
• 1:10:03
  that's very similar to all the stuff that can't is talking
• 1:10:06
  about all the The different layers different, what the
• 1:10:11
  tectonic activity and all that stuff.
• 1:10:14
  There were some major events. I don't necessarily agree that
• 1:10:17
  it was the same thing. I think there probably was a
• 1:10:19
  local flood and a more major geological issue that happened
• 1:10:24
  before that. And they the the biblical view
• 1:10:27
  might be kind of combining some of that stuff but I think yeah
• 1:10:30
  if you just look around, or if you, you know, ancient times if
• 1:10:33
  they dug up, dinosaur bones and they concluded that there were
• 1:10:36
  dragons and things like that. I think a lot of its based on
• 1:10:40
  real observations, they went around and they looked at their
• 1:10:43
  environment and they're like, hey we see all these seashells
• 1:10:46
  and fish fossils and we see dinosaur things that look like
• 1:10:49
  dragons and pterodactyls. They just kind of came up with a
• 1:10:54
  different version of what we might think about it and you
• 1:10:57
  know, it wasn't maybe as advanced but I think that
• 1:11:00
  there's There's more than just a little bit of a grain of truth,
• 1:11:03
  to all of that. I don't think someone just made
• 1:11:06
  up dragons. They they have these
• 1:11:09
  observations of of real you know there's certain number of
• 1:11:13
  fossils. Look exactly like a dragon, you
• 1:11:15
  know, like I like the way you would see a painting of a dragon
• 1:11:18
  on a fantasy novel or something so actually can't, I don't know
• 1:11:22
  how much longer you'd like to go, but that was one thing I'd
• 1:11:24
  like to ask of, just Your thoughts on just for your
• 1:11:29
  knowledge, really on some of the depictions of, you know, in the
• 1:11:34
  Bible. They used to turn drag out a
• 1:11:35
  lot. And there's things like
• 1:11:37
  Behemoth. Leviathan, maybe if you could it
• 1:11:41
  just be interesting to hear your thoughts, or your, your
• 1:11:44
  knowledge, on some stuff about, you know, dinosaurs in the Bible
• 1:11:49
  and maybe different Concepts. How do you do with that?
• 1:11:53
  Because I find that just I think it's just a fascinating topic
• 1:11:56
  and it's o. Yes, sir.
• 1:11:58
  That's my specialty. Our website is we on our website
• 1:12:03
  is doctored I know.com drd. INR phone.
• 1:12:05
  Number eight, five, five, big Dino.
• 1:12:08
  We like dinosaurs. The word dinosaur was made up by
• 1:12:11
  Richard Owen in 1841. Before that time the same animal
• 1:12:15
  for simply called a different name, dragons. 1891, the word
• 1:12:19
  dinosaurs, not even in the dictionary.
• 1:12:21
  It was no word till after that. Okay.
• 1:12:23
  The Bible talks about dragons quite a bit, mentions them 34
• 1:12:26
  times the Biblical interpretation from my 53 years
• 1:12:30
  of study would say, God made everything in six days about
• 1:12:34
  6,000 years ago. The people before the flood came
• 1:12:37
  and took my screen down for a second brother.
• 1:12:39
  The people before the flood came lived to be 900 according to the
• 1:12:42
  Bible Adam was 930, there are hundreds of Legends that have
• 1:12:46
  been found around the world about what's called the Golden
• 1:12:49
  Age. Why would so many different
• 1:12:51
  cultures that have no contact with each other?
• 1:12:53
  All have the similar story. That's a man man used to live to
• 1:12:57
  be a And that was the Golden Age.
• 1:13:00
  Why would they all have the same story?
• 1:13:02
  Why would there be hundreds and hundreds of flood legends from
• 1:13:05
  different cultures, around the world?
• 1:13:07
  There we go. So many people around the world,
• 1:13:09
  talk about a flood. Why would God and they talk
• 1:13:11
  about somebody, building a boat, full of animals to save them
• 1:13:14
  from the flood. The Gilgamesh epic Etc.
• 1:13:16
  Well, first of all, if it's a local flood, why build a boat,
• 1:13:21
  tell Noah to move be a lot quicker to move, then to build a
• 1:13:25
  big boat and load. All the animals on there.
• 1:13:27
  You can probably move from here to China, you know, if you had
• 1:13:28
  enough warning. So, I think the idea that it was
• 1:13:31
  a worldwide flood is the only logical answer.
• 1:13:34
  Now, can I improve that know the Bible says that I've chosen to
• 1:13:37
  believe that but I'm not asking everybody to meet teaching that
• 1:13:40
  you know, and public schools at my expense.
• 1:13:42
  So the Bible says, the people live to be 900.
• 1:13:45
  And after the flood things change, they dropped off to 400.
• 1:13:48
  I cover all this about dinosaurs, I think have always
• 1:13:51
  lived with, man. They were called dragons.
• 1:13:53
  I think they're mentioned in the bible.
• 1:13:55
  We talked about that on DVD. Number three, dinosaurs in the
• 1:13:57
  Bible about Joe, Chapter 40 Behemoth and Leviathan, I think
• 1:14:02
  there could be some still alive today.
• 1:14:05
  There have been thousands of sightings for instance Loch Ness
• 1:14:07
  monster. The Lake Champlain, monster
• 1:14:10
  mokele-mbembe in the Congo swamp in Africa.
• 1:14:14
  Friend of mine was a missionary over there for 40 some years
• 1:14:17
  when he showed the natives. I don't know if I have a
• 1:14:19
  Brachiosaurus here. You know, in the museum but
• 1:14:25
  dinosaur with a long neck and a long tail Apatosaurus and
• 1:14:28
  Brachiosaurus. Hedis orbit very similar used to
• 1:14:30
  be called the Brontosaurus but there was no such thing as a
• 1:14:32
  brontosaurus. When the natives saw, his kids
• 1:14:35
  playing it with the mission. He's a missionary there.
• 1:14:37
  The natives saw, his kids playing with the dinosaur.
• 1:14:39
  They said, oh, that's mocha. Liam Bambi.
• 1:14:41
  He lives out in the swamp. Don't get close.
• 1:14:43
  He's not friendly. And missionaries like stunts.
• 1:14:46
  Like what? This animal still alive in the
• 1:14:48
  swamp in the Congo in Africa? Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  That can you even get my book over there about mokele-mbembe,
• 1:14:54
  it see, all the dinosaur ones are together, Center, bookcase,
• 1:14:59
  all the dinosaur ones are together.
• 1:15:00
  It's a, it's a green paper back. It says, in search of
• 1:15:03
  mokele-mbembe, by Roy, mackel University of Chicago.
• 1:15:06
  I think you got to go down or bookcase.
• 1:15:07
  I got 10 million books in here right about there somewhere.
• 1:15:09
  I think so. Point is, I cover that in great
• 1:15:13
  detail. Adam, if you We'll send an
• 1:15:14
  address to me or call me later. 855, big Dino.
• 1:15:19
  I'm extension three. I will send you a set of my
• 1:15:21
  video tapes for free. If you were promised a watch at
• 1:15:23
  least two of them, I think you'll watch them all.
• 1:15:26
  End up getting converted to get on our site.
• 1:15:27
  We need you over here. Go ahead well, that'd be
• 1:15:29
  awesome. I appreciate that.
• 1:15:30
  Hey, maybe I'll send you a comic book or something in exchange
• 1:15:33
  like fared. I need somebody.
• 1:15:35
  I need somebody drawing comics for me.
• 1:15:37
  Yeah, I've seen some of your graphics there.
• 1:15:40
  Yeah. They're they're fun.
• 1:15:43
  You got a sense of humor and so. Yourself.
• 1:15:44
  I haven't seen too much you guys it's tough but I saw a couple of
• 1:15:48
  recent debates and some at Powell's documentary and stuff
• 1:15:52
  so just real quick. I'll respond to a couple of
• 1:15:54
  those things. What you're saying about what
• 1:15:56
  does that makgeolli and bembe whatever.
• 1:15:58
  That sounds really interesting? I want to check that out but oh
• 1:16:01
  yeah, brontosaurus they brought back I don't have you noticed a
• 1:16:05
  recent because they kind of phased out the term brontosaurus
• 1:16:08
  and then more recently, they are bringing it back.
• 1:16:11
  But also one question I wanted to ask you.
• 1:16:13
  This is almost Like a weird question.
• 1:16:15
  But in the Bible it says that Satan is, you know, the liar
• 1:16:22
  from in the beginning, he was the serpent.
• 1:16:24
  The dragon if Dragons were dinosaurs is Satan in some way,
• 1:16:29
  a dinosaur or would be depicted as almost like a dinosaurian
• 1:16:34
  form and your world question. Yeah, good question.
• 1:16:38
  I don't have a simple answer, but some animals just
• 1:16:41
  automatically are conjure up you know, images.
• 1:16:44
  Bad, you know, black widow spider rattlesnake.
• 1:16:47
  So Satan is called the dragon, he's called the Great Serpent
• 1:16:51
  and I don't think he is, I think it's just more of his
• 1:16:54
  personality or his the way he works.
• 1:16:56
  You know, sneak up on people like a certain snake because I
• 1:16:59
  don't know laughter, wait and see.
• 1:17:00
  He used to be the most beautiful creature God made.
• 1:17:03
  According to the Bible, he was the chief of the ways of God,
• 1:17:08
  that was the Behemoth, was the chief of the ways of God, but
• 1:17:11
  that's Job chapter 14. Chapter 41 talks about
• 1:17:13
  Leviathan. Nathan which I think was a
• 1:17:15
  fire-breathing dragon. You can watch my video on
• 1:17:18
  Leviathan, The fire-breathing dragon.
• 1:17:19
  I think you watch all my videos right on my YouTube channel.
• 1:17:21
  Kent, hovind official, if you want to take a look at that.
• 1:17:25
  You found the book. Yeah, okay, no different one but
• 1:17:28
  that'll work. Here's a book about vocally.
• 1:17:32
  I'm Bambi mystery beast of the Congo Basin.
• 1:17:35
  This one's by William Gibbons who had been over there many
• 1:17:38
  times vocally. I'm be that's how the natives
• 1:17:42
  spell and pronounce the name course there.
• 1:17:44
  Different language, but I'd be the English mystery beast of the
• 1:17:47
  Congo Basin. So, I would think I would take
• 1:17:50
  the position. Dinosaurs always lived with man
• 1:17:54
  man exterminated. Most of them calling them
• 1:17:56
  dragons or some other name and there could be a few stragglers
• 1:17:59
  still alive been many sightings of pterodactyls in the last 50
• 1:18:03
  years. People have said that's a
• 1:18:06
  pterodactyl. So watch my video number three,
• 1:18:09
  I cover everything. I've been able to gather in my
• 1:18:11
  53 years of study on that topic and I'll send them.
• 1:18:14
  You for free. Okay.
• 1:18:16
  And I'm and Kenneth, I got another question for you.
• 1:18:18
  And I know that both of you are going to enjoy this.
• 1:18:20
  And I know that Adam actually recently seen my video on this
• 1:18:24
  and I figured, I'd see where you're coming from on this.
• 1:18:27
  Both of you, we have all observed deformities and humans
• 1:18:31
  and animals. If we found the remains of the
• 1:18:34
  deformed person or animal, how would we go about separating?
• 1:18:38
  It from an alleged, transitional fossil.
• 1:18:45
  Oh shoot, sorry I should go first.
• 1:18:47
  Um yeah I mean I think there's obviously probably ways to to
• 1:18:50
  try to figure that out or at least make a pretty solid guess.
• 1:18:53
  But I do think it's a it's an important question.
• 1:18:55
  Like this this ended up being a bit of a discussion in the
• 1:18:59
  comments section with who's the guy Brett, who was it?
• 1:19:04
  Mr. Jones. Who debated mr.
• 1:19:05
  Jones recently, yeah, mr. Jones made a video, and I did
• 1:19:09
  attempt to watch it. He appeared to completely went
• 1:19:11
  right over his head. The same thing happened, when
• 1:19:13
  Matt Powell is debating, The guy just doesn't, I don't want to be
• 1:19:18
  hateful but he doesn't like absorb information.
• 1:19:20
  Very well as Evolution process is off, but go ahead.
• 1:19:23
  Adam. Yeah, so mister I don't really
• 1:19:26
  know. The guy was just recently
• 1:19:28
  started falling. He seems like an awesome guy and
• 1:19:30
  and, you know, but there was a little bit of a discussion and
• 1:19:36
  just different people were coming up in the comment
• 1:19:37
  section. And the point I was making was
• 1:19:39
  like, kind of adding to what you were saying.
• 1:19:42
  Brett was if say an martians came to the planet Earth, a
• 1:19:47
  million years later and they found skeletons of mostly, you
• 1:19:52
  know, standard size proportion humans and they also found say a
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  certain number of humans who have dwarfism or their gigantism
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  and things like that. I think that it would be likely
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  that they would hypothesize that dwarfs and maybe Since we're
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  probably different species or whether whether they hypothesize
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  that or not, it would be a very difficult challenge to determine
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  is this a different as this a different genetic lineage?
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  Or is it just something? We use the term to form?
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  He's but, you know, it's just a phenotypical difference.
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  Within the same species, I don't even know, I'm sure there's
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  probably kind of a standard way that they try to make
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  determinations. Like that.
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  But I don't know. I think that it's likely that.
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  I mean, we've even seen this where they will look at certain
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  dinosaur fossils. For example, since we've talked
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  about dinosaurs a lot we're at first they thought that they
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  were a totally different genus or species, a totally different
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  dinosaur with a different name and later on, they come to find
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  that it was it was the same species, it was just, you know,
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  that was the juvenile stage of that same species or things like
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  that. So Don't know.
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  I think we, it's it's more information to take in but I
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  don't think we should be so closed-minded when we go into to
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  study this stuff. It's like hey maybe maybe
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  everything that seems like it's a different species.
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  Maybe they are more related than you think.
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  Or maybe certain things just might be some kind of deformity.
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  So I think it's a good question, Brett.
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  And I think that You know, the discussion that that led to when
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  you brought that up, it was kind of revealing that a lot of
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  people were just very dismissive and closed-minded about some.
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  That to me seems like an obvious problem that's as far as I know
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  brought up in, you know, the if you take a paleontology class or
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  something, they teach you this day.
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  One that you know, it's not necessarily if there's a certain
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  crab or something that has a giant pincers on that.
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  Not necessarily an entirely different species or something.
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  It could be a deformity or vice versa.
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  So, it's to me. It just seems like a fundamental
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  question to try to figure out Thank you for your response.
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  Can't do you have any opinion on it as you both yes?
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  Answering any questions if you like the Glad?
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  No yes sir that's great. I think it's it's pretty well
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  known that inbreeding you know humans marrying sisters or aunts
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  or nieces will probably cause hexadecimal is MM.
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  Six fingers. That's one of the first common
• 1:22:43
  things that happens. Indicating, you know to close
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  reading too close to the family. Let's suppose you found a
• 1:22:49
  skeleton of somebody came down to earth and They found was a
• 1:22:53
  skeleton. Somebody with six fingers that
• 1:22:54
  Cove would they, they're conclude, they conclude then
• 1:22:57
  that all humans are that way. You know, if all you found, if
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  you'd never seen these creatures alive and all you found were
• 1:23:04
  fossils of caterpillars, you would never dream in a billion
• 1:23:08
  years that are related to the butterfly.
• 1:23:11
  But it's the same animal, a different stage of her life over
• 1:23:14
  Adam is right. You know what you find juvenile?
• 1:23:17
  They might be very different than the adult IE caterpillar
• 1:23:20
  dragonfly or caterpillar moth or caterpillar butterfly.
• 1:23:23
  You just can't get any more different than that.
• 1:23:26
  Like a different number of legs, everything different.
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  So, and, you know, that us also we see what's called sexual
• 1:23:33
  dimorphism. Sometimes the male and the
• 1:23:35
  female of the same animal are vastly different So I think if
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  you only found fossils, you never really hard time
• 1:23:43
  interpreting some of this stuff, the fact that we see them alive.
• 1:23:47
  Again, I go back to what I've said, all we've ever seen is
• 1:23:49
  dogs produce dogs. If somebody wishes to imagine it
• 1:23:53
  was different long ago and far away.
• 1:23:55
  That's great. But it's not science.
• 1:23:57
  That's a religion and they should keep at home.
• 1:23:59
  I resent paying to have that stuff, taught, everything you
• 1:24:02
  don't mind me asking you real quick.
• 1:24:04
  You'll end up probably coming to the comments later to look at
• 1:24:07
  what people have said about. It's a few non believers out
• 1:24:10
  there, who are claiming that you're not really an atheist.
• 1:24:14
  How do you feel about the old Scotsman down on you like that
• 1:24:16
  if you don't mind me asking, oh sure.
• 1:24:18
  Yeah. Well, a while back several years
• 1:24:21
  ago, Brett keen and myself with some others we went on the
• 1:24:24
  drunken peasants program and had a little discussion and I got
• 1:24:28
  that so much from so many people because I didn't believe in the
• 1:24:32
  Big Bang. So many people were saying, oh
• 1:24:33
  you're not an atheist and I just think that that's absurd and
• 1:24:38
  it's Knowing that it's such a standard at least on YouTube on
• 1:24:43
  TV in the in the books and stuff that you're expected to just
• 1:24:48
  have this one view. This one dogmatic view.
• 1:24:51
  Don't Stray From the mainstream consensus on it and it's kind of
• 1:24:56
  dumb, like, I don't know, I get it.
• 1:24:58
  I think another thing is, I think most active atheists
• 1:25:02
  online are mostly. Well, some of them are all out
• 1:25:05
  fucking Satanist. Sorry for my language, which I
• 1:25:08
  think is It's just, I don't know, that's a whole other
• 1:25:11
  topic, but a lot of atheists on YouTube that are going to be
• 1:25:14
  most vocal are going to be anti-theists, right?
• 1:25:17
  I'm not an anti-theist. I'm not against Christians, I
• 1:25:22
  love Christians. I have a lot of family and
• 1:25:24
  friends were Christians. I'm not against Believers.
• 1:25:26
  I'm Pro theist. If you believe in God.
• 1:25:29
  That's great. A friend of mine.
• 1:25:31
  Lost his faith recently and I was like, damn, I want him to
• 1:25:34
  get that back because it was such a positive influence.
• 1:25:39
  In his life, you know? So I'm not against theism, I'm
• 1:25:43
  not trying to fight fight against it.
• 1:25:46
  I I think this is a great. I've been enjoying this
• 1:25:49
  discussion with can't, I don't know if kids feel the same way.
• 1:25:52
  I think this is really enjoyable to actually, you know, I get
• 1:25:56
  visit but visited by the Mormon, stop by sometimes and it's like,
• 1:25:59
  I love to sit down with the Mormons and talk about Not argue
• 1:26:04
  with them about Joseph Smith or something.
• 1:26:05
  It's like, find that the Common Ground.
• 1:26:07
  What is it? That we agree on and talk about
• 1:26:10
  something positive and just and I like to hear their perspective
• 1:26:13
  to, I don't have to believe what Kent hovind believes about the
• 1:26:17
  fossil layers and all that stuff.
• 1:26:18
  But it's interesting to hear his perspective on it and just to
• 1:26:21
  know that's what the hovind theory is, you know, that's what
• 1:26:26
  them warm in theory is. So if people are saying, you're
• 1:26:29
  not even an atheist. They're just very close minded,
• 1:26:35
  I think. And It's just typical of just at
• 1:26:41
  a first glance just jumping to a conclusion about somebody and
• 1:26:44
  their views. I think that I don't really care
• 1:26:48
  about you. I think I think it started
• 1:26:50
  retarded. Well guys I appreciate your
• 1:26:53
  response is I am going to attempt to get back into a
• 1:26:56
  couple more questions for you guys and I'm glad that you're
• 1:26:59
  both enjoying yourself. That's exactly what I hoped for
• 1:27:02
  and I am glad that God is being glorified and we're having a
• 1:27:04
  good open conversation on things as far as I'm And I find it
• 1:27:09
  unusual. You're an open-minded guy,
• 1:27:12
  you're a true, Seeker. Your research and your
• 1:27:14
  questioning and all this. And I think that everybody
• 1:27:18
  aren't all Isles. Should strive to do that, to
• 1:27:21
  find the truth to search. Not just be like, I'm a fan of
• 1:27:25
  Star Trek, but it appears like board mentality where it's just
• 1:27:29
  parroting. We are the Borg resistance is
• 1:27:31
  futile. It's just nonsense.
• 1:27:34
  Let's continue on, folks, you guys ready for your next
• 1:27:36
  question? This one's about Lucy.
• 1:27:38
  If Lucy was the real deal, then why did scientists admit after
• 1:27:42
  being grilled that they had added fake parts to her such as
• 1:27:45
  human feet on display. So I had, I don't know too much
• 1:27:50
  about Lucy. It's just, it's typical though
• 1:27:53
  that, you know, what is presented as being like.
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  I don't know if you guys can see, like, like, for example,
• 1:28:01
  what we're kind of already mentioned this, but you see,
• 1:28:03
  this is this full skeleton on display in a museum and it's all
• 1:28:08
  It's like 90% modeled out I think with Lucy their
• 1:28:12
  reconstructing, probably what they thought were the fee or
• 1:28:15
  whatever. But I don't know too much about
• 1:28:17
  the controversy or what it was but it is something that's
• 1:28:21
  frustrating to me. I just wish that in a paper and
• 1:28:24
  a textbook they were just more clear.
• 1:28:27
  This is the physical empirical evidence here and this is a
• 1:28:33
  guest of the paleoart of the Reconstruction and a lot of big.
• 1:28:38
  And question marks around it or something like they don't know.
• 1:28:41
  It's like it's not knowledge, it's not, it's not solid proven
• 1:28:49
  information. It's like we were trying to
• 1:28:51
  guess it's almost more like a fun game like maybe it was like
• 1:28:54
  this, maybe it was like that so but yeah, Brett, I don't know if
• 1:28:58
  there is like a more of a controversy to that I don't know
• 1:29:02
  what it is if you want to let me know.
• 1:29:05
  What with Lucy can't. What is your your view on it?
• 1:29:11
  Well, I'm holding. I'm showing up on screen, Lucy,
• 1:29:14
  which was founded by Donald Johanson.
• 1:29:17
  There are no hand, bones, a couple of finger bones, maybe
• 1:29:19
  pieces of no, no, footballs 1974.
• 1:29:23
  Lucy was found in Hadar Valley. Ethiopia is about 3 feet.
• 1:29:26
  Tall is obviously a chimpanzee of some kind but they wanted so
• 1:29:30
  badly to find something to Support their religion of
• 1:29:35
  evolution, they're desperate to support this religion and I
• 1:29:38
  admire their faith, so they completely reassembled, the
• 1:29:42
  skull in such a way to make it look a bit like Lucy.
• 1:29:45
  By the way, got the name because they were singing The Beatles
• 1:29:47
  song Popular at the time, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, which
• 1:29:50
  has the initials LSD on purpose, okay?
• 1:29:53
  But Lucy was obviously a chimpanzee type creature about 3
• 1:29:56
  feet tall, 42 inches, three and a half feet tall.
• 1:29:59
  What did Lucy look like? This is from National
• 1:30:01
  pornographic.com, 40 inches, Everybody agrees.
• 1:30:05
  It was a, it was a chimpanzee size of a six-year-old.
• 1:30:09
  There are animals today like that.
• 1:30:11
  We don't see any monkeys or apes or baboons, or chimpanzees
• 1:30:15
  producing babies that are not the same kind as themself.
• 1:30:19
  We don't see a human producer. Non-human, why is it they think
• 1:30:22
  a bone in the dirt is capable of doing something that no living
• 1:30:26
  animal has ever been able to do in the history of mankind.
• 1:30:29
  How many people have observed? Cows producing cows or dogs
• 1:30:33
  producing dogs, or take something with a shorter
• 1:30:36
  generation time, like an amoeba, you know, they grow up, get
• 1:30:39
  married, have kids in 20 minutes, you can get hundreds of
• 1:30:42
  generations. In one week, we don't ever see
• 1:30:45
  them produce anything except an amoeba.
• 1:30:48
  So, I think they are dreaming to, to think that if it was what
• 1:30:52
  we see today, you know, long ago and far away, they were able to
• 1:30:56
  do something this bone in the dirt.
• 1:30:57
  Could do something no animal today.
• 1:30:58
  Can do. I think that's dumb.
• 1:31:00
  I think it's dishonest. So they can believe it.
• 1:31:03
  All they want to cover Lucy on my video.
• 1:31:04
  Number two of my series about the so-called cavemen.
• 1:31:08
  There's never been one the knee joint from had our Valley.
• 1:31:12
  The best I can now determine is there were two knee joints, one
• 1:31:15
  found nearby and one far away. The to the one found far away
• 1:31:21
  was 223 km away from the skull and 60 to 70 meters deeper in
• 1:31:27
  the strata. You don't even know that knee
• 1:31:29
  joint goes with that animal. If it did, how fast was the
• 1:31:33
  train going that? Hit that thing to knock the knee
• 1:31:36
  that far away. He put them together because
• 1:31:39
  logically, he thought they went to the same animal.
• 1:31:41
  This is absolute Insanity. There's the bones.
• 1:31:44
  He really found and the Reconstruction he made of it.
• 1:31:47
  This is pure bologna. And Humble totally unbiased
• 1:31:50
  opinion. So, Lucy's knee joint was a
• 1:31:52
  little unusual. Some animals today walk upright,
• 1:31:56
  but that's not evidence. So, watch my video, number two,
• 1:31:58
  or what go on my YouTube channel, Kent, hovind, official.
• 1:32:01
  But we cover this kind of stuff they're dreaming, which is fine,
• 1:32:05
  believe whatever you want. But don't make me pay to teach
• 1:32:08
  that all the kids, like, it's part of science.
• 1:32:10
  That's not science. He said, Lucy's femur was angled
• 1:32:13
  proving she was becoming a human which is baloney monkeys.
• 1:32:18
  The climb trees. Of an angled femur not proof of
• 1:32:21
  anything. He said the bones are slightly
• 1:32:23
  bigger than a regular 80k. The bones of a Clydesdale are
• 1:32:26
  slightly bigger than a regular horse.
• 1:32:28
  Does that prove its evolving into a truck are big horses?
• 1:32:32
  Little horses today St. Louis Zoo, put human hands and
• 1:32:35
  human feet on their display of Lucy.
• 1:32:38
  This is pure propaganda. Professor Minton said, it's a
• 1:32:42
  complete misrepresentation. I believe they know.
• 1:32:45
  It's a misrepresentation over inversion translation.
• 1:32:47
  It's a lie. The zoo said we're not going to
• 1:32:50
  change it after it was pointed out.
• 1:32:53
  They made this display of Lucy. They said we're not going to
• 1:32:55
  change it because we think the overall impression is correct.
• 1:32:59
  What's the impression Bruce you trying to impress upon the kids?
• 1:33:02
  That man came from an ape aren't you?
• 1:33:04
  And you'll lie to get that impression across and they do,
• 1:33:06
  they lie about it. If I'm footprints that are
• 1:33:09
  perfectly normal, human Footprints across.
• 1:33:11
  The mud said, all that proves him hominids were walking.
• 1:33:14
  Upright three point seven, five million years ago.
• 1:33:16
  Know if Bruce somebody's running away from Flood and I so I cover
• 1:33:21
  all this in my video number. I got 45,000.
• 1:33:23
  Slides, I use in all my stuff so I can't cover it all tonight.
• 1:33:27
  Anyway, go ahead. Hey, can I ask you a follow-up
• 1:33:30
  on that, right? So, are you say that from what I
• 1:33:33
  was cleaning from? What you're saying?
• 1:33:34
  Do you not just not believe that like Australopithecus and Homo
• 1:33:39
  erectus, like, you basically have the view that there's these
• 1:33:42
  very ape-like animals and there's just humans and there's
• 1:33:45
  not something that's like a transition like Homo erectus, or
• 1:33:50
  Whatever else all the different homos, right?
• 1:33:56
  I'm sorry, childish, that's laughing.
• 1:33:59
  That's translational. All right.
• 1:34:01
  Yeah, yeah. But so you basically just don't
• 1:34:03
  think that there are is something like an
• 1:34:04
  Australopithecus or Homo erectus and stuff like that.
• 1:34:08
  Well I think there are many examples of animals that have
• 1:34:10
  gone extinct. Today we have H baboons
• 1:34:14
  chimpanzees and how many different kinds are considered
• 1:34:17
  in that category. We have humans we have different
• 1:34:19
  color, humans, different size humans, different foot shapes
• 1:34:23
  but they're still human and I think that they've studied 70
• 1:34:28
  people who go barefoot all the time in Africa, where is this
• 1:34:30
  University of Chicago. Did the study and said, well,
• 1:34:33
  these Footprints. They found are identical to
• 1:34:35
  people. Are go barefoot.
• 1:34:36
  All the time, your foot is going to widen out, that's all so.
• 1:34:40
  I think all we've ever seen In is like I said, Monkeys
• 1:34:44
  produced, monkeys, Apes produce, Apes, baboons, produced baboons.
• 1:34:47
  There are no exceptions. There's no such thing as
• 1:34:49
  anything being transitional. No fossil would count as
• 1:34:53
  evidence in a court of law. No, fossils were count.
• 1:34:56
  If you brought in a bone and said, your honor, this bone is
• 1:34:59
  Transitional between apes and man, any freshman law student
• 1:35:03
  could say your honor. You don't know that fossil had
• 1:35:06
  any children, how could you prove those bones had any
• 1:35:10
  children, let alone children that Of or children that were
• 1:35:13
  different. No animal produced today,
• 1:35:15
  produces children different than themselves.
• 1:35:18
  I got three kids, and they turned out to be human.
• 1:35:22
  And they got kids and you're turning out to be human.
• 1:35:23
  I bet it's going to go another generation, they're going to
• 1:35:26
  turn out to be human. So what they did for National
• 1:35:29
  pornographic in 1979, they put human feet on the Lucy display
• 1:35:34
  and they added the toe Separation on the drawing.
• 1:35:36
  You're an artist, this is Artistic license.
• 1:35:39
  They wanted to try to make it look like it's part ape and
• 1:35:41
  slowly coming up to become a human, the or orangutan foot is
• 1:35:46
  very different than a human foot, very different.
• 1:35:49
  It's designed for climbing up, trees and grass, green.
• 1:35:51
  Just you try to climb the tree and grab the branch with your
• 1:35:54
  feet. Piccolo Branch over.
• 1:35:57
  Hey, Kevin, why do you say National pornographic?
• 1:36:01
  That's like, hey, you should be National Geographic, right?
• 1:36:07
  Yeah. Well, used to be a joke, when I
• 1:36:08
  was a kid. I don't know if they're still
• 1:36:09
  doing it, but they always had to have a picture of a naked native
• 1:36:12
  in. There you go.
• 1:36:12
  Oh yeah. Okay.
• 1:36:13
  Okay, rest in there showing somewhere.
• 1:36:18
  There they go. Right there.
• 1:36:19
  You know they always got to have somebody naked in there.
• 1:36:23
  Hey, can't have you ever read like other scriptures from like
• 1:36:26
  say Islam or Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita upanishads and
• 1:36:31
  stuff like that? Like, have you, did you go
• 1:36:33
  through a process where you're you were like, let's consider
• 1:36:36
  what's out there and then compare it to the Bible and see
• 1:36:39
  why the Bible is more true or you know that, that sort of
• 1:36:42
  thing. Did you ever go through a
• 1:36:43
  process where you checked out Buddhism and checked out the
• 1:36:47
  other options out there for religion?
• 1:36:50
  Well, I've not read all the other gee-whiz that would take
• 1:36:52
  400 years to read all the other scriptures of all the different
• 1:36:55
  religions. No.
• 1:36:56
  I haven't read them all this Sunday, our message at 10:30
• 1:36:59
  central time here on this, on my channel, YouTube channel, Kent
• 1:37:02
  hovind official will be about Mormon.
• 1:37:05
  I'm Islam. I'm doing a series every Sunday
• 1:37:07
  morning. Why I'm not why?
• 1:37:09
  I'm not a Pentecostal why I'm not Muslim, why I'm not a
• 1:37:12
  Mormon, why? I'm not a Jehovah's Witness and
• 1:37:15
  this Sunday happens to be on that.
• 1:37:16
  I've read quite a bit of the what the Muslims work Their
• 1:37:20
  scriptures. I got several copies of them
• 1:37:22
  here. The Quran, I completely
• 1:37:24
  disagree. There are some serious, obvious
• 1:37:27
  errors. Psych scientific errors.
• 1:37:31
  I'll be covering some of that this Sunday, so I, yes, I
• 1:37:34
  haven't read them all. I'm willing to really look at
• 1:37:37
  any evidence. So far, I've been reading the
• 1:37:39
  Bible, 53 years, haven't found a single mistake.
• 1:37:42
  If you know what I'd like to see it, Cool.
• 1:37:47
  Yeah, I don't know off the top of my head, some issues with
• 1:37:52
  this Bible, but I do have some sort of Hindu type beliefs that
• 1:37:59
  it's interesting that you're kind of going through each one.
• 1:38:03
  Actually, I just recently subscribed to you.
• 1:38:04
  So I'll check out the one where you're like, on why, you're not
• 1:38:06
  a Mormon Mormons. Are always the nicest people in
• 1:38:10
  the world. But yeah, I think there's a lot
• 1:38:12
  of reasons to question some of the validity of there.
• 1:38:16
  Their belief system, but one of the books that I think is really
• 1:38:19
  great, you're always talking about trying to convert me
• 1:38:21
  before I do. If you are kind of looking into
• 1:38:24
  different stuff, check out the upon the upanishads, which is
• 1:38:29
  kind of Hindu spiritual philosophy.
• 1:38:32
  It's almost more kind of like a mysticism side of Hinduism.
• 1:38:36
  It's just like sort of a small section of it, but I found a lot
• 1:38:39
  of wisdom in this book. It's a lot.
• 1:38:41
  It's a lot about Oneness and being and things like that.
• 1:38:46
  But anyways, I also just kind of wanted to bring that up because
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  I thought it might be relevant to this topic that although I am
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  an atheist I do. You know I do have some
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  spiritual beliefs and stuff. I'm not just a total
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  materialists who believes that my meat and my bones is my
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  identity, I think that there is something special about humans.
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  Obviously, you have to be blind and retarded not to see that,
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  you know, human I do think that there's a spiritual component.
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  We we have some kind of Soul or something.
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  Whatever. I don't know what word, you want
• 1:39:20
  to use something like a soul or spirit, that is more fundamental
• 1:39:24
  than than the meat and the bones.
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  I don't really subscribe to the idea that it came from a Creator
• 1:39:32
  necessarily. But yeah, I think that Without a
• 1:39:37
  doubt, there's something special about humans or something more
• 1:39:40
  than just the material reductionist view of of reducing
• 1:39:47
  it down to just the chemical elements and that's what we are.
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  I hate that like I think and the nihilism that comes with a lot
• 1:39:54
  of these views. Like I think it's just it's very
• 1:39:58
  blind. Like how could you be a human
• 1:40:00
  and have The Human Experience and come to that conclusion of
• 1:40:03
  just this reductionist materialist Chemical explanation
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  without the added element of what we're all experiencing
• 1:40:13
  right now. You know, the kind of more
• 1:40:16
  internal personal subjective. I agree component of it.
• 1:40:23
  Why I said I was in a debate with an atheist one time and I
• 1:40:25
  said, you believe your brain is nothing but a random collection
• 1:40:28
  of chemicals that form by chance over billions of years.
• 1:40:31
  He said, yes I do. I said that, how can you trust
• 1:40:34
  your thoughts and the conclusions?
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  You come, too? Maybe you got some chemicals in
• 1:40:38
  there. Backwards.
• 1:40:39
  He did by the way. So I think it's how can you
• 1:40:43
  trust your your own conclusions? The brain is phenomenal.
• 1:40:49
  As I mentioned, you can think about things, but you can also
• 1:40:52
  think about what you're thinking about.
• 1:40:53
  And at the same time, your brain is doing thousands of things.
• 1:40:56
  You can't think about like healing, body temperature,
• 1:40:59
  regulation digestion. You can't even speed it up or
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  slow it down. You can't, you don't even know
• 1:41:03
  where it's taking place, but it's your brain is running all
• 1:41:05
  that you gotta scratch or cut some place.
• 1:41:08
  The brain is telling me send this chemical fix this.
• 1:41:10
  Fix this, you know, it your posture is always so your brain
• 1:41:14
  has three functions the Conscious.
• 1:41:17
  You can think about it, then you can judge that.
• 1:41:19
  Oh, wow! That was a bad thought and then
• 1:41:22
  you have the unconscious things. You can't a trinity.
• 1:41:24
  The brain is a trinity, I think man is a trinity as a body Soul,
• 1:41:28
  and Spirit Animals seem to have a body and a consciousness of
• 1:41:32
  life, but no consciousness of God.
• 1:41:34
  Like, man has plants have a body and that's it.
• 1:41:37
  They just I think there's three types of Life on this planet.
• 1:41:40
  Plants animals and humans. We're different very different
• 1:41:45
  Oh, absolutely, guys, II have a few more questions, but I also
• 1:41:49
  wanted to respond to someone out in comments.
• 1:41:52
  They said I'm at Powell believes it Squad came from space.
• 1:41:55
  That is untrue. Is video shows the extraordinary
• 1:41:59
  claims done by scientists off of science.
• 1:42:01
  Websites claiming that an octopus and squid wrote on a
• 1:42:05
  comet and somehow hit the earth exploding and somehow survived
• 1:42:08
  that and manage to do their thing.
• 1:42:11
  He also showed the assertions of monkey suppose Chablis being on
• 1:42:14
  seaweed surfboards. This is the scientist claimed at
• 1:42:18
  Pal's. The simply laughing at it and
• 1:42:20
  correcting the nonsense that's out there.
• 1:42:22
  So just make that straight. My next question will give you
• 1:42:26
  some gentlemen. The Bible gives an excellent
• 1:42:29
  account for why a male and a female exist that God created a
• 1:42:33
  blueprint and image to populate creation can Evolution explain
• 1:42:38
  why female and males exist and which came first sex or the SEC
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  Drive? Oh, that is a good one, right?
• 1:42:47
  You got, you have me stumped on that because like I do I
• 1:42:51
  suspect, you know, there is an explanation to that.
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  But it is a really difficult problem.
• 1:42:57
  Because we talked about this in the past words, like how could
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  it even begin? Because once you have a male, It
• 1:43:05
  won't be able to do anything. Unless there's also a female to
• 1:43:08
  reproduce so you'd have to have, you have to start out with both
• 1:43:12
  the male component and the female component simultaneously
• 1:43:17
  in order for it to to reproduce, right?
• 1:43:20
  So it's like it would have to be pretty freaking complicated to
• 1:43:24
  get to that stage and it is an interesting dilemma.
• 1:43:27
  I don't know that, that is another question that has been
• 1:43:32
  brought up. That has me thinking, like, it
• 1:43:35
  seems A really difficult to solve.
• 1:43:39
  I do think that it's you. I think you were.
• 1:43:42
  Did the question, like, can I can Evolution answer this?
• 1:43:45
  I think probably they, you know, the theory could probably figure
• 1:43:48
  it out. I don't know.
• 1:43:49
  I haven't looked deeply into it. So I don't know if they do have
• 1:43:52
  sort of a proposed explanation, but it's an interesting problem.
• 1:43:59
  I agree. It's a to me.
• 1:44:01
  It's not a problem at all. God did it.
• 1:44:03
  God created it that way? I think it is a good job too, by
• 1:44:05
  the way. So, but this is not just man.
• 1:44:07
  This is every just about every animal.
• 1:44:10
  And there are some, that can reproduce sexually or asexually
• 1:44:13
  some of the single-celled creatures.
• 1:44:15
  How did that happen? They're actually some plants and
• 1:44:18
  animals that if there isn't a male or female available.
• 1:44:20
  If the females anyway, they can go ahead and produce fertile
• 1:44:23
  offspring without the mail. That's I think.
• 1:44:25
  Amazing that pretty rare, but that happens.
• 1:44:29
  It's it's all over and then suppose you had the male and the
• 1:44:33
  female everything designed to work, right?
• 1:44:35
  Which is a lot of stuff has to work, right?
• 1:44:37
  But there's no Drive. Why would any animal in the
• 1:44:41
  world want to make more babies of its own kind?
• 1:44:44
  When that only increases competition for the food?
• 1:44:47
  Why did none of the animals evolved the ability to live
• 1:44:50
  forever? Wouldn't it be smarter for the
• 1:44:53
  animals just to develop a Volvo body that lives forever?
• 1:44:57
  What they all want to make babies and those babies create
• 1:45:01
  more competition for the food. It's it's it's insane to believe
• 1:45:07
  such a thing Could Happen by chance.
• 1:45:08
  So you're not have not only the anatomy which has to be
• 1:45:12
  incredibly complex and work you have to have the drive.
• 1:45:15
  Like you mentioned the sex drive, which come down here
• 1:45:17
  during deer hunting season, and watch the male deer run around.
• 1:45:20
  They got one thing on their mind.
• 1:45:22
  It's that way with almost all animals and men and humans.
• 1:45:25
  So I think it had to be designed, I don't have a
• 1:45:29
  problem. Bowing down saying God, you are
• 1:45:31
  amazing. Some people can't do.
• 1:45:33
  Ooh, that I don't have a problem with that at all.
• 1:45:35
  Amen. To that?
• 1:45:37
  The next question is, its Nature has no intelligence or sentience
• 1:45:41
  Consciousness itself nor can it feel pain.
• 1:45:45
  Then how did it managed to create sentience and pain
• 1:45:48
  receptors to feel and for what purpose I'm all ears.
• 1:45:57
  Adam, you've always had to go first.
• 1:46:00
  The purpose of sentience and pain.
• 1:46:03
  Is that the question? Would you like me to ask the
• 1:46:05
  question one more time? I understand.
• 1:46:06
  I remember you've asked this question before.
• 1:46:08
  I really, I'll just pass on it because I don't have too much
• 1:46:11
  off the top of my head to say. And I just kind of want to hear
• 1:46:13
  what what can't say has to say about it.
• 1:46:16
  Would you like me to ask the question?
• 1:46:17
  Kent again, just to make, oh, no, that's fine.
• 1:46:20
  I think the whole, the whole system that the body got sick,
• 1:46:23
  the human body, the pain receptor, You have thing in your
• 1:46:27
  fingertips, you can feel pleasure, you can feel
• 1:46:30
  temperature, you can feel pain, you can feel pressure,
• 1:46:34
  unbelievably complex, sensors in your finger, all over your body.
• 1:46:37
  But any doctor, the studies that will say, man, this is amazing.
• 1:46:41
  I can feel with my fingertips, the temperature, or the
• 1:46:43
  pressure, or the pain, or our movement, there are a nervous
• 1:46:48
  system that is mind-boggling. If you didn't know better, you'd
• 1:46:52
  almost think God made it. All right.
• 1:47:00
  Do you have any response to that atom?
• 1:47:02
  Or are you guys ready to move on to another question?
• 1:47:06
  I'll just say real quick. I think that, you know, the idea
• 1:47:10
  of taking a look at the situation and coming to the
• 1:47:13
  conclusion that Hey maybe this was a Creator maybe it was a
• 1:47:17
  design. Seems like a total reasonable
• 1:47:20
  rational thing to consider as a possibility when you're trying
• 1:47:23
  to figure out how the world works.
• 1:47:25
  So I think it's a reasonable conclusion to come to.
• 1:47:29
  I personally don't think that there is a Creator.
• 1:47:31
  So I think that, you know, it probably was some kind of
• 1:47:33
  evolutionary process or something else that kind of led
• 1:47:40
  to all this, but it really is an unresolved problem like
• 1:47:45
  Consciousness, especially they You don't know, scientists.
• 1:47:51
  Don't know how this stuff works. They're totally stumped on it.
• 1:47:54
  So it's like a pretty exciting territory to just follow and
• 1:48:00
  see, you know, what are some of the new ideas because it's not
• 1:48:04
  really, it's something that we don't know, I think.
• 1:48:06
  And sure, yeah, if you have a theistic worldview, totally
• 1:48:13
  makes sense. That, that's the conclusion that
• 1:48:15
  you come to. I appreciate your response Adam
• 1:48:19
  and I also respect the respectful conversation that is
• 1:48:23
  happening here. I'd like to see more of that
• 1:48:25
  happen and social media if that's possible.
• 1:48:28
  Alright, the next question, scientists claim.
• 1:48:32
  We have a mechanism in our brain.
• 1:48:34
  That helps us control ourselves without it.
• 1:48:37
  We end up with violent Killers, like Jeffrey Dahmer, who was a
• 1:48:41
  ruthless serial killer? Why did Evolution blindly create
• 1:48:45
  this mechanism? Why didn't lie?
• 1:48:47
  Going to Simpson. See just wipe each other out.
• 1:48:54
  Right, right. Geez, I don't know.
• 1:48:57
  Brett. These are like these are like
• 1:48:59
  complicated questions. That would take a long time to
• 1:49:02
  get into. I think if you, if I had the
• 1:49:05
  explanation, I think it would be pretty calm.
• 1:49:06
  It would take a lot of complexity to explain, but it's
• 1:49:11
  no problem. Madam.
• 1:49:12
  I have my actually asked the same questions and debate with
• 1:49:15
  Aaron raw, and he told me, I'll get back to you.
• 1:49:17
  All right? A Theses.
• 1:49:19
  But in two years I'm still waiting right, right.
• 1:49:23
  Larry right as it isn't that his brutal weary R&R on his legal
• 1:49:29
  right now. Yeah, I suppose, it's probably
• 1:49:31
  going to be Satan's friends, Emma and cutest in his dress.
• 1:49:36
  I think, I think I like, I like Aaron Rodgers videos on his,
• 1:49:40
  when is it called, where he does the, um, The diversity of all
• 1:49:43
  the different life forms and stuff.
• 1:49:45
  I've been watching a lot of those.
• 1:49:46
  I think it's informative, but it's hard to take him.
• 1:49:49
  Seriously. This is like satanic dress and
• 1:49:53
  just see, I don't know. Yeah, I don't have time, you
• 1:50:01
  know, I had a little bit of an interaction with him where you
• 1:50:04
  try to tell me that everything is a monkey and Everything is a
• 1:50:09
  fish. Once it's a fish, everything is
• 1:50:11
  the fish. I just think it's, it's sort of
• 1:50:13
  a limited way of looking at things but I don't know.
• 1:50:16
  Aaron Rodgers. Cool, though.
• 1:50:17
  He, you know, he I like this is what I like about Aaron raw.
• 1:50:20
  Is that a lot of people just talk shit and they criticize the
• 1:50:23
  thing. They're, they're arguing with
• 1:50:25
  and he'll at least make a bunch of videos about what he does
• 1:50:29
  believe in, get into the details of he believes in evolution, in
• 1:50:32
  this, this is how the, you know, the this life.
• 1:50:38
  For my turned into the theropods and all the stuff he doesn't.
• 1:50:41
  Just go back with ink and attack.
• 1:50:45
  What he's against. He does put in the effort to to
• 1:50:50
  lay out the complexity of his view on it.
• 1:50:52
  But Sorry, go ahead Camp. Well, yeah, the fact that we
• 1:50:57
  have laws at all, do the Lions have this and their culture are.
• 1:51:01
  There laws are just the strongest get their way.
• 1:51:04
  Almost all animals. It's simply, you know, the
• 1:51:07
  biggest toughest one, he gets what he wants, and, but man
• 1:51:11
  seems to have something in him. A Consciousness that wants to
• 1:51:15
  protect the weak, protect the those that need protection.
• 1:51:19
  So, that's a good question. The person asked, why do we have
• 1:51:23
  these Laws at all, that something innate in humans.
• 1:51:26
  There's a sense of right and wrong, a conscience.
• 1:51:29
  Does a lion have a conscience? Does it bother the lion to eat
• 1:51:33
  the baby zebra while the mother screaming and hollering, don't
• 1:51:36
  eat my baby in whatever Z language they speak button,
• 1:51:39
  bother the lion at all. Is there's just no conscience
• 1:51:43
  there, but man has something that way.
• 1:51:45
  Beyond what animals have I think it was designed?
• 1:51:48
  Go ahead. This next question kind of
• 1:51:52
  coincides with the one that we talked about in pain receptors,
• 1:51:55
  scientists claim that humans plants and animals have a
• 1:51:58
  chemical called DMT that releases when we dream.
• 1:52:02
  And when we're about to die, which causes a euphoric alike
• 1:52:06
  effect, a blissful high that makes our transition to death
• 1:52:09
  easier. This makes sense Of loving God
• 1:52:12
  designed us to end with the least amount of pain, but how
• 1:52:16
  can Evolution explain these unusual chemicals?
• 1:52:22
  Sure, I think it fits in a both worldviews.
• 1:52:24
  If you think there's a God, a creator that loves you.
• 1:52:27
  He puts that at additional feature in there.
• 1:52:29
  If you do think that there's an evolutionary process, that makes
• 1:52:32
  sense that those chemicals through.
• 1:52:35
  I'm not into this whole poofing out of nothingness and it's all
• 1:52:39
  random. I don't think it's random by
• 1:52:41
  chance. I think that, you know, there's
• 1:52:44
  a complicated mechanism that's going to arrive at something
• 1:52:46
  like this. But I think it where it fits
• 1:52:49
  into both. Like, if the the hole.
• 1:52:51
  Pollution and process leads to a selection for certain chemicals.
• 1:52:56
  And that's a benefit to a certain organism, or I don't
• 1:53:01
  know. Do other animals have DMT, do
• 1:53:02
  you know? But yeah, II don't think I don't
• 1:53:06
  see that as an issue where it's like one to me.
• 1:53:09
  It doesn't seem like something where it's clearly points in the
• 1:53:12
  direction of One Versus the other.
• 1:53:13
  I could see both worldviews incorporating DMT into how it
• 1:53:19
  all fits together. All right, you good?
• 1:53:24
  Yeah, I think it. I think it is another example of
• 1:53:27
  design of which there are trillions of examples of design
• 1:53:31
  to try to ease the transition. So why would that why would such
• 1:53:36
  a thing evolved? Why would that chemical evolve?
• 1:53:39
  Because you're only going to use it for a few seconds, you're not
• 1:53:42
  going to pass it on to anybody, if you get it when you're dying
• 1:53:45
  hello you're not going to pass it on to your next great
• 1:53:47
  generation. I think there's I think it's
• 1:53:49
  impossible to get an evolutionary explanation for
• 1:53:51
  that goodbye. And let's keep in mind, folks if
• 1:53:55
  you don't mind me adding to this evolution is not an entity or
• 1:53:59
  Consciousness, even though some atheists act like it's such.
• 1:54:02
  It doesn't care if you suffer doesn't care if you die.
• 1:54:06
  It doesn't care when your birthday is, it will not send
• 1:54:08
  you a Christmas card, that's just the way it is.
• 1:54:11
  So why would it be concerned with your pain and how you are
• 1:54:15
  going to transition to death? Think about that, folks.
• 1:54:18
  I appreciate your response to the atom as well as Kent all.
• 1:54:22
  Right. So now this next question is
• 1:54:25
  basically a personal view. What a scientist ever lie for
• 1:54:30
  money Fame. Our recognition can politics
• 1:54:33
  corrupt science, Well, of course, I think the evangelists
• 1:54:40
  lie, politicians, lie, scientists lie.
• 1:54:43
  A lot of people in positions of Power, are going to be corrupt
• 1:54:47
  and they're going to lie and they're they're going to cheat
• 1:54:50
  especially if there's a financial reward or a social
• 1:54:53
  reward. I think it's just an 82.
• 1:54:57
  We have a large group of humans. You know certain people in
• 1:55:02
  positions of power it's going to be common that people are going
• 1:55:04
  to I am cheating still and just put themselves above take
• 1:55:10
  advantage. I don't think that it's Unique
• 1:55:13
  to science. I think you see it in religion,
• 1:55:17
  you see it in politics but it is something that does occur in
• 1:55:22
  science. And there is, I mean, there is
• 1:55:25
  deceit and fraud going on. There's even scientific studies
• 1:55:30
  on the deceit and fraud in science.
• 1:55:32
  And how many of the, how many scientific research papers were
• 1:55:35
  just totally plagiarized, or false?
• 1:55:38
  They go because they go through and things like that.
• 1:55:40
  So, yeah, I think that a lot of people have faith in science as
• 1:55:45
  this infallible perfect thing. And, no, it's a human endeavor.
• 1:55:50
  People are, ya like cat was saying earlier, you know, if
• 1:55:53
  you, if you Put together some bones and you model into this
• 1:55:58
  new discovery of a dinosaur or do a fake thing.
• 1:56:02
  You're a famous millionaire you. If you find a dinosaur fossil
• 1:56:09
  skeleton like that and you sell it to a museum or something
• 1:56:12
  that's like millions, millions of dollars.
• 1:56:15
  So there's a, there's a strong incentive for corruption and
• 1:56:19
  cheating and just, you know, Deceit, or just, just denial.
• 1:56:28
  If they do figure out, like, let's say, they figure out that
• 1:56:31
  their old version was wrong, there's a lot of pressure for
• 1:56:36
  them to keep the old version going because it's in the
• 1:56:39
  textbooks because you have a position of seniority and you're
• 1:56:43
  famous for this one Theory. It's a lot of work.
• 1:56:48
  It's a lot of social consequences to be like, well,
• 1:56:51
  the old Theory we've been working on for 20 years as
• 1:56:54
  Actually fucked up and we got to change it and throw it all out
• 1:56:58
  that, you know, they're gonna be a lot more likely, just to
• 1:57:02
  pretend and keep going and keep keep these old outdated models
• 1:57:06
  from hundreds of years ago, going because there's just too
• 1:57:10
  many negative consequences for them to admit that it's messed
• 1:57:13
  up. Great answer.
• 1:57:17
  And I agree how many in if you want to China today and look
• 1:57:22
  through their Public School textbooks.
• 1:57:24
  Would you find anything that is critical of communism?
• 1:57:30
  Oh no, they don't get published in that country, that'll sure
• 1:57:33
  don't get sold and given to the kids.
• 1:57:35
  If you went to a Muslim country, run by Muslims completely, would
• 1:57:39
  you find anything that's critical of Islam or critical of
• 1:57:42
  Muhammad in their books course? Not?
• 1:57:45
  It's this way worldwide. Many, many in many different
• 1:57:48
  areas of life, you know, whether it be religion, but with with
• 1:57:51
  Evolution, it's the same way. Evolution is a carefully,
• 1:57:54
  protected State religion, nothing else.
• 1:57:58
  Nothing but a And nobody's ever seen a cow produce an on.
• 1:58:01
  Kauai said it many times, he just doesn't happen.
• 1:58:04
  You can believe it all you want but it's not science but it's
• 1:58:08
  protected, there are, as you mentioned.
• 1:58:09
  There's a good answer there. Adam, there are social
• 1:58:11
  consequences or financial consequences are in communist
• 1:58:15
  countries. If you go if okay, what go to
• 1:58:17
  downtown, China, get up on Red Square.
• 1:58:18
  Get them microphone and speaker and say, communism doesn't work.
• 1:58:22
  You guys close it down. Capitalism's a better system.
• 1:58:26
  See how long you live get? Your did not.
• 1:58:29
  Germany and stand up and say, Hitler's an idiot.
• 1:58:31
  He's a jerk as because bad, you know, Nazism doesn't work.
• 1:58:35
  You wouldn't last long. So we got the similar situation
• 1:58:38
  with Evolution. Brett, it's been two hours.
• 1:58:41
  I am beat. Are we about done?
• 1:58:44
  I was going to ask a couple more questions, but if you tired, I
• 1:58:47
  can completely understand that. Adam sounds like he's getting a
• 1:58:50
  little lift over there. Would you guys want to promote
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  your, your site's, your YouTube channels and all that one more
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  time? And hopefully you guys guys will
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  join me again on the show. I really, really enjoy your
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  company, sure? Yeah, so once again, I'm Adam
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  lore, that's hello Ari on YouTube is my main sport where
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  you can find me and hopefully we can get a link in here for my
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  comic book Toad Road Comics. I'm going to send this to can't.
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  If he gives me my address, I'll send you the family friendly
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  version for the Christians and there's also an uncensored
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  version with some bad words and stuff.
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  But, you know, I do live streams, I draw Comics, I talk
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  About some of this stuff. Just, you know, a lot of times
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  we're doing art streams, that were just talking about these
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  topics, but I like to go for long hours.
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  Sometimes I'll do eight hours, 16 hours dreams.
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  So I have the longevity, but respect to Kent hovind who was,
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  who put in a good solid two hours.
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  I think this was a great conversation, I think it was
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  productive and I really enjoyed this conversation and I think
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  would be awesome to just see everything doesn't have to be a
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  debate. You know, everything is I have
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  to be an attack and I'm looking forward to Kant said, he might
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  send me some He owes and stuff. So hey mate.
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  And maybe in the future, we could have continued the
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  conversation because I think there's a few more things that
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  Brett kind of had in mind of maybe morality or something.
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  So I'm up for continuing the conversation.
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  I think it's a it's good to have these just more a friendly
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  discussion, you know, it's been fun.
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  So so thank you can't and thanks to Brett for having me on Kent.
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  I know that you're going to promote your material.
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  I was hoping that I could Take a minute after you promote your
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  stuff to suggest something for you, that may improve on some of
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  the streaming stuff from the thing, unless you'd rather me
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  talk to your tech support. That's fine.
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  I've been doing this for many years teaching on science in the
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  Bible. My video series is in 42
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  languages, Kent hovind creation, seminar series, 50 bucks.
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  For the whole thing when you're done, you can return it, get
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  your money back. You can call 855 big Dino and go
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  to extension one. If you want my material or A
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  Shinto. If you want to come, stay here
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  for a couple days. It's all free.
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  If you want to talk to me, I'm extension 3.
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  I take calls all day long and half the night.
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  It was a joke. My daughter was one of my
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  secretaries in Pensacola when I was down there, and I get so
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  many phone calls all day long when she asked me to do her
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  wedding. It's been played 50 times on
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  America's Funniest Home Videos just type in Kent hovind
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  daughter wedding. See what you think.
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  One minute long, you'll see what you think.
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  I've written extensively on other topics.
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  Like why did God let this happen?
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  And my book. What on Earth is about to
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  happen? What does the bible teach about
• 2:01:34
  the future becoming time of tribulation and our video series
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  on the same thing. Whoa, what on Earth is about to
• 2:01:41
  happen. We're headed for trouble on
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  planet Earth. I think it starts now.
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  Or maybe even last fall, we shall see.
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  Anyway, so I believe the Bible is true.
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  God made the world in six days. We defend the biblical view
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  against all comers and I appreciate Adam doing this.
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  This was one of the more gentle discussions.
• 2:02:00
  I've had with an atheist. Usually they get pretty fired up
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  because when you attack their religion or when you even call
• 2:02:04
  it a tea as a religion, there's no way you can know.
• 2:02:07
  There's no God, you can believe it, it's a religious belief.
• 2:02:11
  Try, it's not true but it's you're welcome to it.
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  Alright, thank you so much for having me and the come visit
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  dinosaur Adventure Land in Lenox Alabama.
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  Do you got a moment X? I can suggest something for you.
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  Can't sure. Sure, go ahead.
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  Hopefully, they're also listening background.
• 2:02:28
  You want to look into something called restream as well, as
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  stream yards, what we're using. I know you don't see my
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  interface because your guests in the room, but it gives you the
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  ability to put images in an archive categorize and organize
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  them as well as videos you could in a single moment to Simply
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  click, you play a video of somebody saying something.
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  Then you refute them to Bunk them.
• 2:02:50
  You can Everything from Lucy and their two older clips of your
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  videos, to be able to say, see I've already talked about this
• 2:02:57
  and that way, you don't have to continuously repeat yourself to
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  those out there who don't seem to absorb information.
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  Very well, sounds good, I appreciate that.
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  Thank you, sir. No problem, no problem.
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  Well, good night. I can't, I really enjoyed having
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  you here, and it looks like a lot of people loved it.
• 2:03:15
  Thank you. Thank you.
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  All right, thanks again. Thanks again.
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  You can have a good one. All right.