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- 0:24Speaker 1: doing today?
- 0:26Speaker 2: I'm doing great Friday.
- 0:28Speaker 1: It's Friday, and it's always a pet day. Oh my god.
- 0:30Speaker 1: I'm always with my pets, and so to have a
- 0:32Speaker 1: conversation with you is you're just going right down my street.
- 0:34Speaker 1: We we are on the same page.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Great. But do you have dogs or cats? All right?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Well, I don't do cats because I have birds, and
- 0:40Speaker 1: I'm always afraid that I'm gonna startle my birds and
- 0:43Speaker 1: so and I've got some some very peaceful morning doves
- 0:46Speaker 1: that I just I just men and they them and
- 0:48Speaker 1: their little jazz as I call them. I just can't
- 0:50Speaker 1: get enough of it. And I'm so afraid that a
- 0:52Speaker 1: cat will take away from that.
- 0:54Speaker 2: They will, they would, Yes, you're right now.
- 0:57Speaker 1: One of the things that I've learned about having a
- 0:59Speaker 1: dog is it's all about patients. And it took me
- 1:03Speaker 1: the longest time because we've rescued nine dogs, but nothing
- 1:05Speaker 1: like this last one. In the way of trying to
- 1:08Speaker 1: understand her. How can we get more people to understand
- 1:12Speaker 1: that when you do adopt a dog, you need to
- 1:15Speaker 1: go down to their level, like a white belt in
- 1:17Speaker 1: martial arts.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you never know where they're coming from,
- 1:23Speaker 3: and that's from a few different things, meaning that they
- 1:25Speaker 3: could have health issues you're not aware of, So getting
- 1:28Speaker 3: them really screened by your veterinarian. You know, a lot
- 1:31Speaker 3: of dogs, even a four year old young dog could
- 1:34Speaker 3: have arthritis and you may not be aware. Also a
- 1:38Speaker 3: lot of behavior issues, and a lot of times when
- 1:40Speaker 3: people rescue dogs, they have behavior issues and they think
- 1:43Speaker 3: it's because of the trauma that the animal may.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Have suffered, but it actually could be pain.
- 1:49Speaker 3: And a lot of times I'm asked by people who've
- 1:52Speaker 3: gone to multiple trainers and have gone to dog behaviorists
- 1:56Speaker 3: to scream for behavior problems and ends up being arthritis
- 2:01Speaker 3: or other types of muscle injury. So yes, go to
- 2:05Speaker 3: their level, observe them, and then give them a break.
- 2:07Speaker 3: And then also just you know, start from scratch, just
- 2:09Speaker 3: like you.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Said, Well, what we should have noticed in the very beginning,
- 2:12Speaker 1: and I do not regret it is that there was
- 2:14Speaker 1: a pit bull out in the Humane Society and we're going, wow,
- 2:17Speaker 1: I've never seen a dog out here before, and then
- 2:19Speaker 1: we find out the pit bull was with Jazzy and
- 2:21Speaker 1: we go in there going, oh, what's this all about?
- 2:24Speaker 1: Who's winning this little match up here? But I mean,
- 2:26Speaker 1: I mean, it just blows me away on how she
- 2:29Speaker 1: wants no dogs around her and no other humans outside
- 2:32Speaker 1: of us. And I can't be the only one that
- 2:34Speaker 1: goes through this. And that's what I want to talk
- 2:35Speaker 1: about in the way that there are people that want
- 2:38Speaker 1: to give up, but I ask them, do not give up.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Yeah, don't give up.
- 2:43Speaker 3: And I think part of it is, you know, a
- 2:45Speaker 3: lot of dogs, they take time to adjust. I heard
- 2:47Speaker 3: it once and this was again because my area is
- 2:50Speaker 3: mostly treating physical injuries. But as long as it took
- 2:54Speaker 3: you to get hurt, think about two to three times
- 2:57Speaker 3: longer in your recovery.
- 2:59Speaker 2: And I feel like that's the same thing with.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Behavior issues or any kind of thing that your dog
- 3:04Speaker 3: is samaling with, or maybe your dog just wants to
- 3:07Speaker 3: be with you, and if you're.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Okay with that, that's okay.
- 3:10Speaker 3: You know, they found you for a reason, and maybe
- 3:12Speaker 3: the reason it is is that you're what you are,
- 3:14Speaker 3: a single dog household aside from the birds, and that's
- 3:17Speaker 3: just the way it is. She doesn't have to go
- 3:19Speaker 3: to you know, doggy daycare and play with the other
- 3:21Speaker 3: dogs if she doesn't want to, just like a person,
- 3:23Speaker 3: if they're an introvert and just wants to stay home
- 3:26Speaker 3: with their family, that's perfectly okay.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Now you bring up injury, and I did want to
- 3:29Speaker 1: talk about that in the way that in taekwondo we
- 3:32Speaker 1: were always told six to eight weeks when you have
- 3:34Speaker 1: an injury, come back. Then what about a dog, because
- 3:37Speaker 1: one of the things that so many people do. You
- 3:39Speaker 1: can see the dog out there limping, and while I'm
- 3:41Speaker 1: on that path in the forest, I sit there and wonder,
- 3:44Speaker 1: what are they trying to do to that dog? What
- 3:46Speaker 1: is the actual time that we should respect a dog's injury.
- 3:50Speaker 3: So if it is a true injury, meaning that my dog,
- 3:54Speaker 3: so my dog was outside, he's perfectly healthy. He has
- 3:57Speaker 3: no underlying conditions like arthritis, he doesn't have any history
- 4:00Speaker 3: of a knee injury.
- 4:02Speaker 2: There's nothing like that. He sees a deer he goes
- 4:05Speaker 2: after the.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Deer, he comes back right away, he's limping to the
- 4:08Speaker 3: front leg. That type of injury could be a shoulder
- 4:13Speaker 3: tendon issue. That would be the most common thing where
- 4:15Speaker 3: my mind would folks first go to first in those
- 4:19Speaker 3: types of cases, absolutely right, Six to eight weeks of
- 4:22Speaker 3: recovery would be what I would expect.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Now, what does that look like.
- 4:27Speaker 3: That looks like working with your vetinarian on pain medication
- 4:30Speaker 3: to take away the pain and at the same time,
- 4:34Speaker 3: working with maybe if you have physical therapy veterinarian to
- 4:37Speaker 3: build strength and help them recover out of that injury.
- 4:40Speaker 3: And then there's all amazing things that vetinarians could do
- 4:43Speaker 3: with all types of stuff. Of stuff we could do
- 4:45Speaker 3: for injuries. When I had a shoulder tenent injury, I
- 4:49Speaker 3: got a plate leverage, plasma and steroids in my shoulder.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Guess what we could do the same thing for dogs.
- 4:54Speaker 3: So yeah, tons of stuff that we could do. Six
- 4:57Speaker 3: to eight weeks is typical for those types of Just
- 5:00Speaker 3: like taekwondo.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Do people have it wrong when it comes to dogs panting,
- 5:05Speaker 1: Because that's one of the things that my wife freaks
- 5:06Speaker 1: out about. She says, the dog is tired. We gotta
- 5:08Speaker 1: go back, We gotta go back, and I'm going wait
- 5:10Speaker 1: a second, panting is a normal thing. But yet my
- 5:12Speaker 1: wife thinks that, oh no, no, no, she's getting old,
- 5:14Speaker 1: she's fourteen. We gotta take her back, back, back, back. Well,
- 5:17Speaker 1: who's right? Who's wrong here?
- 5:19Speaker 2: Well, I don't know so well I'm gonna say anyone's right.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Or wrong, but I will tell you the panting is
- 5:25Speaker 3: it's right. That is something that is a sign that
- 5:27Speaker 3: your dog is too hot. And what we do is
- 5:30Speaker 3: when we look at panting and a dog to decide
- 5:34Speaker 3: how hot they are, it's the degree of the panting.
- 5:38Speaker 3: So if they're panting and their tongue is barely hanging
- 5:41Speaker 3: out of their mouth, it's a light pant.
- 5:43Speaker 2: That's probably equivalent of a light sweat in a person.
- 5:47Speaker 2: But if the.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Tongue is instead hanging out of the mouth, it's really red,
- 5:52Speaker 3: it's kind of enlarged. That's a little bit more of
- 5:55Speaker 3: a heavy pant or heavy sweat.
- 5:58Speaker 2: So in those cases I would probably turn back.
- 6:00Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that you talk about
- 6:02Speaker 1: inside the things here is the fact that you talk
- 6:04Speaker 1: about these these dogs streaming water bowls. I fear that
- 6:08Speaker 1: only because Jazzy when she goes into what I call
- 6:10Speaker 1: it the mansion, I don't want to call it a kennel.
- 6:13Speaker 1: She goes into the mansion, but when she comes out, man,
- 6:15Speaker 1: my god, she will not stop drinking water. I love
- 6:19Speaker 1: the streaming water bowl, but I fear it like you
- 6:21Speaker 1: wouldn't believe.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Why.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Well, because it's ongoing water. And with Jazzy, especially when
- 6:28Speaker 1: she comes out of the mansion, the thing is is
- 6:30Speaker 1: that she will not stop drinking water. And I'm not
- 6:32Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I've picked up a lot, a lot,
- 6:34Speaker 1: a lot of puke on the floor, the clear puke, no,
- 6:38Speaker 1: nothing like that. Yeah.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's shoes stimulating. Yeah.
- 6:42Speaker 3: So a lot of times we like these bowls because
- 6:45Speaker 3: they encourage dogs and cats to drink water. But if
- 6:49Speaker 3: she doesn't have that problem, and she just needs a
- 6:51Speaker 3: regular bowl, and you could kind of regulate her water
- 6:54Speaker 3: intake by just saying, Okay, I'm just gonna put a
- 6:56Speaker 3: cup in there, let her finish it, give her a minute,
- 6:59Speaker 3: and then do another copy, and you kind of regulate
- 7:01Speaker 3: her intake. That's what I would do for her.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Oh, please don't move. There's more dog talk coming up
- 7:06Speaker 1: with doctor Kelly Fishman, Doctor Kelly Fishman, love how she
- 7:12Speaker 1: loves all pets. We are back not to knock TikTok,
- 7:17Speaker 1: but how much does does the clickbait there change the
- 7:20Speaker 1: way that we're you know, taking care of our pets
- 7:22Speaker 1: because we see all of these beautiful pictures, especially with
- 7:25Speaker 1: AI technology, and then you see people trying to do
- 7:28Speaker 1: what they're doing on TikTok and it's like, can the
- 7:29Speaker 1: dog just be a dog please? Or am I just
- 7:31Speaker 1: being just an old fuddy dud.
- 7:34Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what you're seeing on TikTok.
- 7:36Speaker 3: I know I'm seeing the explosion of supplements, like I
- 7:39Speaker 3: am constantly getting targeted for some kind of supplement promising
- 7:44Speaker 3: longevity and muscle health.
- 7:47Speaker 2: And you know, it's it's pretty crazy.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Now there's even AI veterinarians out there who aren't recommending
- 7:54Speaker 3: things that have no scientific evidence behind them and aren't
- 7:57Speaker 3: proven to increase longevity or muscles strength. And I as
- 8:01Speaker 3: a vet and area, and I kind of cringe because
- 8:02Speaker 3: that's my area, and that's I have stuff that's clinically proven,
- 8:05Speaker 3: like the you know, the myospet and you know which
- 8:08Speaker 3: is fortochropen, which has been proven to build muscle health
- 8:10Speaker 3: and dogs and cats.
- 8:12Speaker 2: I have that. I have my Omega threes. You know.
- 8:14Speaker 3: It's so that's a bit tough for me because I
- 8:17Speaker 3: see that and I know it's a bit of a
- 8:19Speaker 3: marketing ploy and it does kind of get to me,
- 8:22Speaker 3: and it is hard because you can't resist. It's such
- 8:25Speaker 3: good marketing and it's on Instagram and it's ten o'clock
- 8:27Speaker 3: at night and you're like, should I try this?
- 8:30Speaker 2: But you don't do it?
- 8:31Speaker 1: But you're doing something here that I really do cherish
- 8:33Speaker 1: and has been a part of Jazz's life from day one,
- 8:36Speaker 1: and that is the sports medicine. I mean where I go.
- 8:38Speaker 1: What they do is they really do pay close attention.
- 8:41Speaker 1: And what I love about Jazz is the fact that
- 8:43Speaker 1: at fourteen, she's still sleek as all can be. There's
- 8:46Speaker 1: not an inch of fat on her. But I do
- 8:48Speaker 1: credit my vet for that. And I want listeners to
- 8:50Speaker 1: understand that what you're doing with pets is spot on.
- 8:54Speaker 1: You've got to be able to communicate with their mind,
- 8:56Speaker 1: body and soul as well.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. So senior dogs like Jazzy are
- 9:03Speaker 2: my specialty.
- 9:04Speaker 3: So my goal is to take someone comes to me,
- 9:07Speaker 3: comes to me with a dog like you you have
- 9:10Speaker 3: who's a senior, and I say, all right, let's max
- 9:13Speaker 3: out their proteins so they're building muscle. Let's get them
- 9:15Speaker 3: on a muscle supplement like the myos pet. Let's get
- 9:18Speaker 3: them on Omega three fatty acids for their joints. Let's
- 9:21Speaker 3: do exercises. That's our active aging exercises. I want my
- 9:25Speaker 3: thirteen year old labs to be running, you know, two
- 9:28Speaker 3: to three miles and doing ten mile hikes with their
- 9:31Speaker 3: pet parents. There's no reason they can't unless there is
- 9:34Speaker 3: some underlying issue with their heart or you know, other.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Kind of thing preventing them if they're healthy.
- 9:40Speaker 3: Otherwise, they should be healthy, happy, active senior dogs.
- 9:44Speaker 2: And we have so many tools to do it.
- 9:47Speaker 3: And if your veterinarian isn't aware, please direct them to
- 9:52Speaker 3: you know, my website. I have links to the myospet.
- 9:55Speaker 3: There are research studies you could show them in senior
- 9:58Speaker 3: dogs how to build strengthen them ability.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Show it to them.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Look at the website, look at the other my website
- 10:04Speaker 3: for you know, other tips on how to exercise your dog.
- 10:08Speaker 3: So exercise, fitness, muscle supplements, protein, the things that were
- 10:12Speaker 3: told as seniors and active, you know, aging people we're
- 10:16Speaker 3: supposed to do. It's the same thing for your dog.
- 10:18Speaker 3: So I love that you're already doing that for Jazzy.
- 10:20Speaker 1: This time of year, especially here in Carolinas and we're
- 10:22Speaker 1: up here on what I call Heartbreak Hill. We have
- 10:24Speaker 1: a place where, you know, every pet owner comes by
- 10:27Speaker 1: and says, not my dog. My dog is smarter than that.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Yet we've had four dogs in the same exact area
- 10:32Speaker 1: get hit by copper heads. How can we wake people
- 10:35Speaker 1: up to these copper heads mean business and they don't
- 10:38Speaker 1: have friendly ideas for dogs?
- 10:41Speaker 2: Oh man, you know, I don't know.
- 10:43Speaker 3: You know, I was in Florida briefly and they had
- 10:45Speaker 3: a lot of dangerous snakes there, and I feel like
- 10:48Speaker 3: I remember someone taking a like a plastic snake and
- 10:53Speaker 3: trying to like scare their.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Dog with it so they could be afraid of it.
- 10:57Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if it works.
- 10:58Speaker 3: You may want to work with a trainer on that,
- 11:00Speaker 3: but that one might be something that you do with
- 11:02Speaker 3: a puppy, is that you take you get a snake
- 11:05Speaker 3: from Amazon that looks exactly like a copperhead, and you
- 11:08Speaker 3: make them. You don't want to make them afraid because
- 11:10Speaker 3: you don't want to do fear based training, but you
- 11:12Speaker 3: could work with them to avoid it, or just doing
- 11:15Speaker 3: a really good leave at command, you know, would be
- 11:17Speaker 3: a good thing to do.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Dogs on treadmills love the idea. I would love to
- 11:21Speaker 1: get her on that. But my worst fears she's going
- 11:23Speaker 1: to be like we who are human, We're going to
- 11:25Speaker 1: use a treadmill once or twice and that'll be it.
- 11:27Speaker 1: What is the best way to keep them interested?
- 11:30Speaker 3: Well, given that you have to put her on the treadmills.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Really instill about you. So I love dog treadmills.
- 11:39Speaker 3: First of all, pet parents should know that you have
- 11:41Speaker 3: to get a dog one because they have to be
- 11:43Speaker 3: long enough.
- 11:44Speaker 2: They have to be long.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Longer than the human ones. So you have to get
- 11:48Speaker 3: a dog treadmill. You have to set them up right
- 11:50Speaker 3: on it. They shouldn't really be, you know, tied to
- 11:53Speaker 3: it with her callers, so there's certain safety things. But
- 11:56Speaker 3: knowing all that, and I'm going to put a blog
- 11:58Speaker 3: up on my website so people are if they go
- 12:00Speaker 3: to start animal they could read all about you know,
- 12:02Speaker 3: the one o one of dog treadmills.
- 12:04Speaker 2: But I love them.
- 12:05Speaker 3: They keep dogs fit during times of the year where
- 12:08Speaker 3: it's too cold.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Or it's too hot, or you're too we don't want
- 12:12Speaker 2: to go out.
- 12:12Speaker 3: You'd rather like what, you know, have your dog do
- 12:14Speaker 3: treadmill and watch TV, or do some cooking and get
- 12:19Speaker 3: your dog fit, because you know, dogs really do crave fitness,
- 12:24Speaker 3: they crave activity. They want to keep going. They were
- 12:27Speaker 3: you know, they're descended from wolves that were roaming you know,
- 12:31Speaker 3: all day and doing tons of work, and we kind
- 12:33Speaker 3: of keep them inside and do you know, ten to
- 12:35Speaker 3: fifteen minute walks every day and a lot of times
- 12:37Speaker 3: it's not enough. So I love the idea of a
- 12:40Speaker 3: dog treadmill. I think it's great.
- 12:41Speaker 1: My ego says that Jazzy wants to take me for
- 12:44Speaker 1: a walk. But what I think it is, I think
- 12:45Speaker 1: she wants to go out for a history lesson with
- 12:47Speaker 1: that dang nose. Oh my god, what is up with
- 12:50Speaker 1: that nose? And dogs? And are we really walking a
- 12:53Speaker 1: dangerous path when we let them smell everything?
- 12:56Speaker 2: No, I listen. Smelling is how they see.
- 13:01Speaker 3: So we've found out that dogs interpret their environment through
- 13:05Speaker 3: their notes, so they're mapping everything around them. They see
- 13:09Speaker 3: the tree, but then there's also a scent profile of
- 13:12Speaker 3: that tree.
- 13:13Speaker 2: So when they go up and smell it, they're smelling maybe.
- 13:15Speaker 3: A dog fell a little bit of female left of
- 13:18Speaker 3: a message two days ago. They're smelling that, they're smelling
- 13:21Speaker 3: a person who walked by an hour, you know, an
- 13:24Speaker 3: hour ago.
- 13:25Speaker 2: So they go up to that spot.
- 13:26Speaker 3: There's so much information that they're getting, and it's such
- 13:29Speaker 3: a good enrichment for a dog as they age. So
- 13:32Speaker 3: a senior dog like Jazzy, we talked about losing muscle
- 13:35Speaker 3: and why they need muscle supplements, but also their brain
- 13:39Speaker 3: is aging, so they need mental stimulation and smelling that
- 13:43Speaker 3: tree is such a great way to stimulate their brain.
- 13:47Speaker 3: So I love the fitness for my older dogs and
- 13:50Speaker 3: what we called nosework and scent work and smelling.
- 13:54Speaker 2: It's so good for them.
- 13:55Speaker 1: It's so funny that I was with a carpractor recently
- 13:57Speaker 1: and they said that most injuries for adults are caused
- 14:00Speaker 1: by dogs unleashes, and I laughed so loud because it's like, well,
- 14:04Speaker 1: it's because we're the pet and we have to follow them.
- 14:07Speaker 1: And I just love that about dogs. But one of
- 14:10Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to talk about because as
- 14:12Speaker 1: we still continue to be in this hot summer with
- 14:14Speaker 1: heating indexes over one hundred degrees. Are there nutrients or
- 14:17Speaker 1: supplements that we could give our dogs to help them out?
- 14:20Speaker 1: Or do we have to go all natural with this?
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yeah? Just stick all natural with regular water.
- 14:26Speaker 3: You know, we dogs don't sweat and so they don't
- 14:29Speaker 3: need electrolytes like we do when it gets really hot
- 14:32Speaker 3: like this. Yeah, so just giving them regular water is
- 14:37Speaker 3: a really good way just to keep them hydrated.
- 14:39Speaker 2: I like other things to do, like doing things like
- 14:44Speaker 2: trying to.
- 14:46Speaker 3: You know, add a little bit of water to their
- 14:49Speaker 3: bowl to keep them very hydrated. And doing things like
- 14:53Speaker 3: that just to keep them hydrated is a good idea.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
- 14:57Speaker 1: Because fifteen minutes with you is never going to be enough.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Yeah, so please visit my website strutanimal dot com.
- 15:05Speaker 2: That's s t r utanimal dot com.
- 15:09Speaker 3: I am a huge fan of that supplement called Myos
- 15:13Speaker 3: m yos and if anyone wants to get it to
- 15:16Speaker 3: build muscle in their aging dog or their dog that
- 15:19Speaker 3: just had surgery, it's m Yos Pets. And on my website,
- 15:24Speaker 3: I have lots of links to exercises, blog posts, and
- 15:28Speaker 3: then on my social media Instagram, and Facebook, So please
- 15:31Speaker 3: visit me, please reach out.
- 15:33Speaker 2: I'm always happy to talk to anybody. Wow.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future.
- 15:37Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Doctor. Oh, thank you, thank you.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 15:43Speaker 2: Okay, all right er, have a great day and a
- 15:45Speaker 2: good day to Jazzy too,