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All-Star Kyle Stowers & Viral Reliever Tyler Phillips @Marlins camp · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: All Star Kyle Stowers joining us right now at Marlins Camp. Kyle,
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Speaker 1: great to have you on here, and I do want
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Speaker 1: to start there. How do you sum up twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: five before you enter this twenty twenty six regular season?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
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Speaker 3: I think the coolest part is just to look back
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Speaker 3: at where I was at last year at this point,
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Speaker 3: and it's been quite different circumstances. So just grateful to
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Speaker 3: be in the spot that I'm in now. And man,
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Speaker 3: this time last year I was kind of in a
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Speaker 3: full panic modes. It's so nice to not be in
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Speaker 3: that spot as much.
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Speaker 4: He's big time. He didn't even have to play it
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Speaker 4: today against Team Missions. He's so big time now he
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Speaker 4: picks and chooses. He's like, oh, they're not a real
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Speaker 4: big league team. I don't want to play against them today,
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Speaker 4: So Clayton, I'm taking the day all.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 1: Last year, Kyle, during a time like this, you're getting
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Speaker 1: ready for a spring training game. How different was it
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Speaker 1: for you from a prep standpoint? Right now, you're prepping
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Speaker 1: for being your best self in the regular season. Last year,
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Speaker 1: in spring training you're trying to make a name for
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Speaker 1: yourself and make sure that the team knows you're here
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Speaker 1: to stay.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think, you know, And there's there's still
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Speaker 3: a little bit of that, you know, like I don't
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Speaker 3: want to lose the edge that you know, I think
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Speaker 3: I've had in all the you know, big leagu camps
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Speaker 3: I've been in, Like I think, you know, all I
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Speaker 3: know is going into spring training needing to be ready
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Speaker 3: to compete, you know, and compete for a job. And
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Speaker 3: so you know, for me, it's not like, oh, like
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Speaker 3: you know, let's just you know, keep the punt off,
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Speaker 3: the gas pedal until you know, the season starts. For me,
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Speaker 3: there's you know, just trying to be intentional with my
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Speaker 3: work and yeah, we have a little bit more perspective
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Speaker 3: of you know, you know, you don't want to you know,
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Speaker 3: go maybe full gas you know, at all times.
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Speaker 2: But that being said, I don't don't want to lose
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Speaker 2: that edge of competing.
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Speaker 4: How do you turn it off?
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Speaker 2: That's probably I don't know how to turn off.
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Speaker 4: You said, you know you're not going full gas, But
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Speaker 4: how do you turn it off in a in a game,
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Speaker 4: in a spring training.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that I think when it's when it comes
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Speaker 3: to the game and it comes I think for me,
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Speaker 3: it's like rather than it's less about the games, I
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Speaker 3: would say. I would say it's more in the cage maybe,
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Speaker 3: like if I'm not feeling as good as I will,
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Speaker 3: rather than like trying to hack it out in the day.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's being a little bit more mindful of
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Speaker 3: stuff like that, you know, especially I think finishing the
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Speaker 3: year injured, the last month injured, you know, just being
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Speaker 3: a little bit more mindful that we're trying to trying
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Speaker 3: to get through, you know, hopefully into October, right, And
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Speaker 3: so I think that's where the changes.
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Speaker 5: Are for me.
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Speaker 4: Are you a big swinger or do you take a
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Speaker 4: million swing?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a guy that can definitely spend a lot
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Speaker 3: of time in the cage and probably probably too much.
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Speaker 4: And what about like live VP? Do you are you
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Speaker 4: a taker? Are you a are you a watcher? And
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Speaker 4: then you don't want to swing and all of a
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Speaker 4: sudden you swing.
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Speaker 3: That's a that's an interesting conversation. I was talking about
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Speaker 3: that with a few guys. I feel like early in
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Speaker 3: camp I've done both, like I've done you know in
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Speaker 3: years past, I've done. Hey, I'm going to see a
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Speaker 3: pitch every single time, no matter what, for as long
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Speaker 3: as I can and then but I also feel like
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Speaker 3: I get more calibrated by swinging, and you know, even
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Speaker 3: if that, you know, by being a little bit more
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Speaker 3: aggressive and seeing kind of where my misses are.
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Speaker 2: You know, So I think, you know, i'd say definitely
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Speaker 2: someone who likes to swing.
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Speaker 6: How do you get besides like being able to mitigate
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Speaker 6: your exertion in spring training, how do you get ready
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Speaker 6: for all one sixty two plus October that you didn't
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Speaker 6: get ready or you weren't prepared or told how to
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Speaker 6: get ready before.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's something I'm still still learning about.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 3: Last year was my first full year in the major leagues,
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Speaker 3: and so you know, I guess you know, part of
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Speaker 3: I actually, you know, I would take it to you guys.
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Speaker 2: What were some things that you guys learned during your career?
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Speaker 2: Because you guys were.
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Speaker 4: Hit all off season, so that helped. Yeah, so you
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Speaker 4: don't seem like you're gonna pull that one off. No,
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Speaker 4: that's that's not that's not yeah, that's not me. But
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Speaker 4: I still figuring it out.
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, just getting better at I think
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Speaker 3: quality reps, you know, you know, quality over quantity, you know,
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Speaker 3: and and like I said, uh, you know, making sure that,
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Speaker 3: you know, if if something's not exactly where I want
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Speaker 3: to be at, if I'm not feeling my best you
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Speaker 3: know today, it's you know, rather than trying to you know,
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Speaker 3: uh take three steps in one day, being okay with
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Speaker 3: taking you know, one small step at a time.
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Speaker 4: Well, like I think it was Magley, we're doing is
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Speaker 4: or Carlos City when when the White Sox. I when
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Speaker 4: I got to the White Sox, they told me they
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Speaker 4: would say this. If they felt good, they would swing extra,
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Speaker 4: and they felt bad, they just stopped swinging that day.
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Speaker 4: They'd be like, you know what, instead of trying to
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Speaker 4: hit a thousand balls and swing your way out of it,
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Speaker 4: they said, hey, I feel like crap today. I'm just
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Speaker 4: gonna go play the game and go from there and
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Speaker 4: not try to work on it. And then if they
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Speaker 4: felt good, they'd take a little extra because they wanted
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Speaker 4: to get the good feeling locked in.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that actually makes a ton of sense to me.
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Speaker 3: I think there's you know, because when you're not feeling good,
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Speaker 3: you not only you're probably thinking more and fatiguing yourself more.
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Speaker 3: And so I know, how often you know one of
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Speaker 3: those days that are that are just that happen that
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Speaker 3: are bad days? Do you really, you know, move the needle.
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Speaker 3: I think that's a great point. So I'm gonna probably
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Speaker 3: like take from them a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Just give me credit.
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Speaker 3: I will give somebody ask Yeah, yeah, hit fifty this year,
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Speaker 3: drove in one hundred and forty.
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Speaker 4: What happened last conversation? Yeah, look that was on foul
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Speaker 4: territory that I really told me.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 6: Everybody everybody wants to do better. Do you think you're
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Speaker 6: just gonna do better because you're going to play in
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Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty two games, you'll stay healthy? Or
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Speaker 6: do you see yourself taking a next step? I know
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Speaker 6: that's crazy to say to a lot of fans, but
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Speaker 6: when I watch you play, I feel like there's still
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Speaker 6: low hanging fruit that you can improve on. A season
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Speaker 6: where you had over a nine hundred ops, you were
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Speaker 6: an All Star, you did so many things. But do
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Speaker 6: you see areas where you can improve where you like,
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Speaker 6: I'm good? You know I'll hang around right where I'm at.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think one hundred percent I still
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Speaker 2: have room to improve. I think, you know.
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Speaker 3: The last thing I also want to say is like, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know that just because I had this.
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Speaker 2: Amazing year last year.
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Speaker 3: Just low, I just show up and it's going to
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Speaker 3: automatically happen again, you know, I know, you know, being
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Speaker 3: a guy who's not far removed from getting my butt
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Speaker 3: kicked at the major league level night in the night out,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's you know, I know, it's how much
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Speaker 3: it takes, you know, day in and day out to
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Speaker 3: to have success.
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Speaker 2: At this level.
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Speaker 3: And so but as far as like areas to improve,
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Speaker 3: I think just the quality of that bat continued to
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Speaker 3: get better and better as the year went on, being
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Speaker 3: smarter about situations, how teams were attacking me, and and
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Speaker 3: picking and choosing spots where where you know, you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe my focus was more hey like you know, try
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Speaker 3: to just take a good at bat and pass to
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Speaker 3: the next guy when when they were less aggressive to me,
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Speaker 3: or or you know, getting better at picking and choosing.
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Speaker 2: My spots, uh to to take take a chance on
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Speaker 2: a pitch.
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Speaker 4: Any extension talks, I know there was there was rumors
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Speaker 4: of some this offseason. Have they approached reapproached you about that?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing since some of the ones that took place,
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Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, I I love it here.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's something that I'm definitely open to discussing.
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Speaker 3: And you know, but that being said, just you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the unfortunate.
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Speaker 2: Major in Stanford communications, So you're not a math major.
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Speaker 2: Not not a math math.
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Speaker 3: Math wasn't my wasn't my exceptional subject, unfortunately. But uh no,
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Speaker 3: I I'd love to do something and I'm very interested
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Speaker 3: in doing it. But at the same time, you know,
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Speaker 3: just trying to you know, like I said, it takes
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Speaker 3: a lot to try to have success at this level
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Speaker 3: and just trying to you know, think about it, and
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Speaker 3: that's signed like a ten year, four hundred million dollars deal.
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Speaker 3: How much stress is off your table?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be nice.
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Speaker 5: But there is something to that.
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Speaker 6: There is something to the stress of trying to get
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Speaker 6: an extension. Some people are like, oh, who cares if
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Speaker 6: it's stress, you know, it's a lot of money. But
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Speaker 6: then there's also something to the idea of what you
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Speaker 6: were just saying, like being able to say, Okay, I'm
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Speaker 6: locked in. And I've seen guys have great years and
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Speaker 6: then after they were locked into an extension. Do you
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Speaker 6: feel that or do you see that in other players?
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Speaker 3: You know, I think how I look at it is
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Speaker 3: whether it's stat's money, you know, whatever it is. You know,
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Speaker 3: I think that stuff is a is a byproduct, right,
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Speaker 3: and you know, the last thing I want to do,
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Speaker 3: you know, is try to go. You know, I feel
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Speaker 3: like I have to have something or that I need
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Speaker 3: to be an all star or that I need to go,
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Speaker 3: you know, be the certain guy, you know, and and
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Speaker 3: skip all the steps and stuff that it takes to
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Speaker 3: get there. You know, I think, you know, for me,
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Speaker 3: what I really pride myself in is is how I
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Speaker 3: carry myself, how I treat people in the clubhouse, you know,
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Speaker 3: my work ethic, my mental routine, all that stuff and
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Speaker 3: whatever comes after that, you know, that's all. It's all gravy.
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Speaker 3: And you know, for me, there's this thing that I love.
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Speaker 3: I got it from a Cliffs and Strengths Finder coach
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Speaker 3: I talked to. It's called the the B do have,
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Speaker 3: you know, and we get it backwards. We act like
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Speaker 3: that we need to have something, and what we have
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Speaker 3: influences our you know, our actions, and then once we
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Speaker 3: act certainly, then we then we can, uh you know,
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Speaker 3: be that person you know, and and so I want
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Speaker 3: to be that the person you know. First you know,
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Speaker 3: for me, it starts with, you know, being a good husband, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, being a good father. You know, when I
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Speaker 3: go home from the field, and you know, if I
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Speaker 3: can choose to be that guy, you know, be the
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Speaker 3: be a good teammate, work hard, all that stuff, you know,
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Speaker 3: then that influences, you know, what I do, and then
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 2: What I get from there is the byproduct of that.
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Speaker 6: How many times last year, just in the All Star
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Speaker 6: weekend did you think, man, I thought this was going
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Speaker 6: to happen in an Orange uniform. I thought this was
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Speaker 6: going to happen as an oriole Not saying you were
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Speaker 6: vindictive or hateful or anything like that, but how many
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Speaker 6: times during just that weekend, not during the season. What
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Speaker 6: did that thought come into your head?
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Speaker 2: You know, I think that's something the hindsight, I've thought
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Speaker 2: about a lot.
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Speaker 3: Actually, you know, I think what was super cool about
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Speaker 3: you know, I was when I got traded.
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Speaker 2: I wanted the trade to happen.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, it's very sad
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Speaker 3: to be leaving the group of guys that I was with.
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Speaker 3: And even now, I can, you know, still visualize what
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Speaker 3: that would have looked like. You know, you know, I
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Speaker 3: could visualize the world in which, you know, I was
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Speaker 3: an everyday player with the Orioles, with with those group
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Speaker 3: of guys, and I think, you know, with the chance
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Speaker 3: you know, stepping out into you know, outside of my
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Speaker 3: comfort zone into a new organization, you know, with a
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Speaker 3: with a new group of guys, I think that actually
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Speaker 3: allowed me to grow into you know, even more right.
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Speaker 3: And I think that was what was so cool about,
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Speaker 3: you know, everything that happened in Miami last year for
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Speaker 3: me was I think it actually you know, brought out
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Speaker 3: more of myself than maybe I might have had in Baltimore.
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Speaker 7: Hey, I have one more for you. I don't think
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Speaker 7: we had you after this happened.
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Speaker 1: So how did you reflect on the All Star Game
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Speaker 1: experience and the history that you made. We never saw
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Speaker 1: the swing off before it ended up being super fun.
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Speaker 1: So when you were able to kind of reflect, take
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Speaker 1: a second, can you take us through any of the
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Speaker 1: inner workings there of how that all went down and
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Speaker 1: how that, you know, just gives you even more of
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Speaker 1: a boost from the year that you had.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was so terrified when they told me I
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Speaker 3: was going to be doing that. What I was you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm a guy, you know, fear of failure, performing anxiety
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Speaker 3: some I worked through a lot, but uh, you know
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Speaker 3: when they I you know, I like, I'm the guy,
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Speaker 3: you know, the day before I see our schedule, like
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Speaker 3: to visualize my day, plan it out, all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: And so when they told me that all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: I was so nervous. And then but then the.
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Speaker 3: Coolest thing was, you know, was after it happened, I
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Speaker 3: was just so grateful that I got the chance to
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Speaker 3: be a part of that. And once, you know, once
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Speaker 3: I got in the box, you know, just as like
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Speaker 3: when we when we play, you know, you you turn
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Speaker 3: a snap into competitive mode and try to simplify things
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Speaker 3: and not get worried about, you know, any of the
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Speaker 3: you know what ifs and all that stuff. And it
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Speaker 3: was nice because I actually struck out twice in the game,
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Speaker 3: so the talkaway experience with my family was all about
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Speaker 3: to swing off.
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Speaker 2: So that was that was nice.
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Speaker 4: If we're beating shoreb anyways, So.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thankfully he was on my teams.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you got to walk away with the
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Speaker 4: w exactly. Yeah, that was really a common thread here
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Speaker 4: he went to Stanford. I mentioned it every Stanford guy
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Speaker 4: ever played with I don't know about your crash. Overthinks
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Speaker 4: over smart, tells me how smart they are. Oh, I
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Speaker 4: went to Stanford. It's like, I don't understand what's so Stanford.
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Speaker 4: Soone was turned down Stanford. We all don't have to
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Speaker 4: go to Stanford.
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Speaker 7: He did, he did.
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Speaker 1: Hinch tried to recruit him over at Stanford A J.
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Speaker 1: Hinch and presents.
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Speaker 5: He said, no, I'm going here.
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Speaker 4: Big leagues, No, they don't know what happened is Pinch
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Speaker 4: was there? Yeah, Niner Yep. Calls me like, hey, I
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Speaker 4: want you to come out for a visit. I'm like, well,
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Speaker 4: isn't Hinch like your freshman All American?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: But you can date you Mike. I'm good. D thank
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Speaker 4: you though, I'm good. No, thank you, I'm good. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It worked out for everyone. Same with you, Kyle. Awesome
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Speaker 1: to have you back on. Appreciate the time, have fun
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Speaker 1: the rest of spring. We'll catch you during the season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, guys, I appreciate it. Always a pleasure.
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Speaker 1: Comes Marlins reliever Tyler Phillips, joining us right now on FT. Tyler,
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Speaker 1: great to talk to you, and before we start talking
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Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty six season, we did have you
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Speaker 1: once last year. Wanted to say hello and also congrats
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Speaker 1: on a great twenty twenty five. You really grinded to
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Speaker 1: get yourself to this spot. So did you do some
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Speaker 1: reflecting this offseason? Have a lot of fun with what
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Speaker 1: you just accomplished.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well I appreciate you guys and what's up again?
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I see, not much time to reflect. Gotta
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Speaker 5: got a.
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Speaker 8: Six month gold now, so kind of trying to support
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Speaker 8: mom however I can. But no, it was awesome, and uh,
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Speaker 8: it's definitely a grind of a season just learning how
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Speaker 8: to be a reliever. But uh, I mean I've been
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Speaker 8: big on just letting go of what I did and
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Speaker 8: just trying to look onto the next the next year.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: By the way, I just wanted to say this. I
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Speaker 4: know he's I guess New Jersey, but he's kind of
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Speaker 4: you're close.
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Speaker 5: To Philly, right, Yeah, yeah, South Jersey.
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Speaker 4: He's got the definitely the Jersey look going dude like
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Speaker 4: cut off sleeves.
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Speaker 5: Look at that, stay relaxed that. I mean, look at that.
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Speaker 5: There we go, there we go.
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Speaker 4: I mean, in the wonder Craps and Scott love you.
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Speaker 4: They're like Philly's fan growing up. I mean total Jersey guy.
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Speaker 5: I mean, Cainelee's here.
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Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, we'll have Canelee over here talking
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Speaker 4: about you know, Jersey, Yo, Philly.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was too young to be on that scene.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 5: I just stuck around baseball.
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Speaker 8: But now in Miami, man, I gotta show some gotta
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Speaker 8: show some personality. You know, it's cool you have a kid,
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Speaker 8: Now stay away from I know, I know, I uh,
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Speaker 8: my wife would be upset if.
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Speaker 5: I was anywhere near there. This clinch, let's clench a
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Speaker 5: spot and then then we can convince her.
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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, absolutely. So what are you looking forward to
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Speaker 4: this year with.
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Speaker 8: The Carleans dude? I mean, just being around those guys
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Speaker 8: was such a blast. Like you guys said, it was
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Speaker 8: kind of a grind throughout my career.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 8: You know, I was like nine years in the minor
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Speaker 8: leagues and then you know, I went to Philly. God,
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Speaker 8: I love those guys like, I had so much respect
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Speaker 8: for them, but it was hard for me to fit in.
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Speaker 8: Just as a rookie. I was being timid and I
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Speaker 8: was trying to take it all in like everyone said.
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Speaker 8: But I was letting that leak into my performance. And
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Speaker 8: once I got over here, I thought it was just
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Speaker 8: gonna be the weird new guy. Everybody there was a
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Speaker 8: weird new guy. You know, everyone was a rookie. All
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Speaker 8: the coaching staff was like their first year. Uh So
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Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just excited to go into battle with
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Speaker 8: these guys again. Like I think we do a good
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Speaker 8: job of of playing for each other, not making it
14:55
Speaker 8: very selfish bullpen.
14:58
Speaker 5: I'm super excited for that. You know.
14:59
Speaker 8: Obviously the addition of Pete we got, John King, we
15:01
Speaker 8: got they were both in Texas with me, so we
15:04
Speaker 8: got the Texas Marlins coming around, Brandon Mann also Texas,
15:07
Speaker 8: Ryan Riquez Texas. So now I'm just excited to just
15:11
Speaker 8: get into compete moe with these guys again and uh
15:14
Speaker 8: just get after it, try to make a name for ourselves.
15:17
Speaker 6: Do you regret not being you when you first got
15:19
Speaker 6: called up? Because I know what it's like to wait
15:22
Speaker 6: a long time in the minor leagues and then you
15:24
Speaker 6: get to the big leagues and you're like, I'm older
15:26
Speaker 6: than a lot of these guys, but I need to
15:28
Speaker 6: be a rookie. Like everybody says you're a rookie. Do
15:31
Speaker 6: you regret that?
15:33
Speaker 5: Yeah? Man, that's the thing, Like I just I didn't
15:35
Speaker 5: know what to expect.
15:36
Speaker 8: Like I think from so many years in the minor leagues,
15:41
Speaker 8: I just like like I knew that I saw myself
15:43
Speaker 8: as a big leaguer. I knew that I belonged there,
15:45
Speaker 8: but once I got there, I wanted to be that
15:47
Speaker 8: good rookie. So I was just creating extra jobs for myself.
15:53
Speaker 8: We're at the end of the day, like, you know,
15:55
Speaker 8: like these guys aren't going to be upset with me
15:57
Speaker 8: if I'm showing my colors as long as I'm performing,
16:00
Speaker 8: as long as I'm doing the right thing, like obviously
16:02
Speaker 8: don't be like out of like just completely obnoxious, like
16:06
Speaker 8: guys are still trying to do their jobs. But yeah, man,
16:09
Speaker 8: I wish I wish I kept that fire, Like I
16:12
Speaker 8: was scared to show it on the field. I was
16:14
Speaker 8: scared to show guys up, you know, Like I remember
16:17
Speaker 8: specifically facing like Freddie Freeman, like probably the hardest at
16:21
Speaker 8: out that I'll have, but uh, I didn't want to
16:24
Speaker 8: like stare him down or I didn't want to be
16:27
Speaker 8: the bulldog mentality I had on the mound because I
16:29
Speaker 8: was like, oh what if I what if I upset
16:30
Speaker 8: this guy?
16:31
Speaker 5: You know, like at the end of the day, if
16:33
Speaker 5: I do what I'm gonna do.
16:34
Speaker 8: I think I'll get more respect out of him than
16:36
Speaker 8: if I was to go in there being timid and
16:37
Speaker 8: have a four pitch walk, you know. Uh so, yeah,
16:41
Speaker 8: I do regret it. I wish, I wish that I
16:42
Speaker 8: kept that bulldog mentality. But you know, everything happens for
16:45
Speaker 8: a reason, and and here we are now, and I
16:49
Speaker 8: learned a lot from that, from that year of being
16:52
Speaker 8: that little kid. So now now we're here.
16:54
Speaker 4: Is that why you didn't slap yourself when you're in Philly?
16:56
Speaker 4: I mean you could have got Price or Schwobur or
16:58
Speaker 4: somebody to smack.
16:59
Speaker 8: Tim I did some other stuff in Philly that you know,
17:02
Speaker 8: those guys know about it. I can't share that on
17:05
Speaker 8: the air, but dude, honestly, I just slapped myself as
17:07
Speaker 8: I got mad warming up one day, like if my
17:10
Speaker 8: stuff felt like it's my thing, now like it, but
17:13
Speaker 8: like there's science behind while I do it. Like I said,
17:17
Speaker 8: I give up like four runs the two outages prior
17:20
Speaker 8: they throw it right back in the fire.
17:21
Speaker 5: That's how it is.
17:21
Speaker 8: And dude, it was like eighty It felt like I
17:25
Speaker 8: wasn't spending the ball. I just stepped off the Mountain,
17:28
Speaker 8: grinding my teeth. It was like nobody at this game.
17:31
Speaker 8: I just said, I'm just gonna punish myself, and I
17:33
Speaker 8: hit myself and I went out there. Velocity jumped, the
17:36
Speaker 8: spin was spinning. So like we're doing this from now on. Uh,
17:40
Speaker 8: this time training game, I'm doing it in spring games,
17:43
Speaker 8: so before you take them mount and.
17:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been doing it.
17:47
Speaker 4: It's like fight Club. We don't talk about Fight Club.
17:50
Speaker 5: A little bit. I think I love that movie. But no, man'.
17:55
Speaker 4: You're Edward Norton.
17:57
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta get sorry. If you haven't seen
17:59
Speaker 5: Fight Club for you know, you have to see that movie.
18:02
Speaker 5: He's it's it's good.
18:04
Speaker 8: Tyler Durden, Yeah, Tyler Diurton, Dude, what an unbelievable alter
18:08
Speaker 8: ego that would be you. You got to get some
18:12
Speaker 8: like mesh shirts, right, just like this one cut off
18:15
Speaker 8: mesh shirt to gum have the shape makes I don't
18:17
Speaker 8: have the hair for it. Make soap, but uh make
18:20
Speaker 8: soap for sure. No, But honestly, like my the reason
18:24
Speaker 8: that I do do it is, yes, I was upset,
18:28
Speaker 8: but I I started understanding why it was working for me.
18:32
Speaker 5: There was nerves going in the games. You got a
18:34
Speaker 5: lot of it.
18:34
Speaker 8: There's an adrenaline spike when your name is called. You
18:36
Speaker 8: don't always know like you're prepared, but you know the starter.
18:40
Speaker 8: Let's say Sandy set the tone. He just went seven innings, right.
18:43
Speaker 8: I don't want to be the guy to like ruin
18:45
Speaker 8: that outing for him. So as your first year out
18:47
Speaker 8: of the bullpen, especially you're sitting there, there's thoughts that
18:49
Speaker 8: creep in. There's demons, you know, like you're really good guys.
18:53
Speaker 8: They're really good because they don't have those thoughts.
18:55
Speaker 5: What do they do? And they know how to get
18:56
Speaker 5: rid of them. That's my way of doing it.
18:59
Speaker 8: Like I I cross that line, Well, the second they
19:01
Speaker 8: call my name, I'm grinding my teeth.
19:03
Speaker 5: I'm making up lives. What the hitter say about my family,
19:05
Speaker 5: about my wife, and.
19:07
Speaker 8: I'm just pissed off, just pacing back and forth on
19:10
Speaker 8: the mound out there, just trying to look tougher than
19:12
Speaker 8: I actually am.
19:13
Speaker 5: I mean, look at me, but uh, once I.
19:16
Speaker 8: Crossed that that gate and I hit myself, I just
19:19
Speaker 8: got punched in the mouth by whoever. And there's fight
19:23
Speaker 8: or flight there. I wasn't raised to run away from stuff.
19:27
Speaker 8: There's no retreating back to that bullpen. So I hit myself.
19:30
Speaker 8: It's time to go, It's time to fight. That's my
19:32
Speaker 8: my alter eg you know, like like a Jesus is
19:35
Speaker 8: Ardo's he's got his song glasses. That's his alter ego.
19:38
Speaker 8: That's my way of flipping the switch. And uh, you
19:40
Speaker 8: know we talked about burning the boat. It's like, I
19:42
Speaker 8: hit myself. I'm burning my boats back there. I can't
19:44
Speaker 8: run back. It's time to go into battle. So it
19:46
Speaker 8: works for me, and I love it. I'm not going
19:48
Speaker 8: to stop.
19:49
Speaker 6: Everybody sees you do that, it becomes viral. Everybody sees
19:53
Speaker 6: you out in the mound. Postgame interviews are like Jonathan
19:57
Speaker 6: Papelbon esque where you're saying like words and we just
19:59
Speaker 6: don't even like nothing's really coherent because you're in a
20:03
Speaker 6: different zone. You've explained that, well, how long does that
20:06
Speaker 6: take for you to come down from? This is something
20:08
Speaker 6: that play People that never played don't understand. It just
20:12
Speaker 6: doesn't turn off. So how long does that take you?
20:16
Speaker 5: Yeah? Man, I mean I think it depends on the outing.
20:19
Speaker 8: Like the one interview, I was, I was mad man,
20:22
Speaker 8: like I do like thirty five pitches a day before,
20:26
Speaker 8: you know, I was groomed as a starter, I want
20:28
Speaker 8: to go nine innings every time, even like as a reliever.
20:31
Speaker 8: My mentality is like you are prying this ball out
20:33
Speaker 8: of my hand, like I'm gonna go nine if you
20:35
Speaker 8: asked me to go nine.
20:36
Speaker 5: If it goes into extras. To be honest, it takes
20:40
Speaker 5: a while.
20:40
Speaker 8: We're going through our post game like talks that we
20:43
Speaker 8: have and I'm still in there fuming. Man and guys
20:47
Speaker 8: just kind of leave it alone. And then usually when
20:49
Speaker 8: I'm done lifting, if I had a lift that day,
20:52
Speaker 8: it's gone. Or you know, I got my good friend
20:55
Speaker 8: Lake Baker, he shows up, he's he's got a good
20:58
Speaker 8: way of calming me down. So but now I think
21:02
Speaker 8: once we get inside, we go through the team meeting,
21:04
Speaker 8: whatever it is, the post game.
21:08
Speaker 5: Kind of kind of cool down. I like the game too.
21:11
Speaker 8: I stay up late and I go back into compete mode.
21:15
Speaker 8: I'd say after the lift though, maybe two hours.
21:19
Speaker 6: Do you ever watch do you ever watch other dudes
21:21
Speaker 6: throw and get just as amped. What made me think
21:24
Speaker 6: of the question was, you know, I talked to some
21:26
Speaker 6: relievers during the postseason that weren't that weren't pitching in
21:30
Speaker 6: the postseason. They were already at home and they were
21:33
Speaker 6: watching dudes come in and do what those guys did
21:36
Speaker 6: for their team, going four or five. Do you ever
21:38
Speaker 6: get pumped or do you ever get like, like almost
21:41
Speaker 6: jealous that you're like, I'm not. I would love to
21:44
Speaker 6: be in that situation when you watch those guys.
21:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
21:47
Speaker 8: No, I mean I went to this. I was still
21:50
Speaker 8: a minor league at the time. I went to a
21:51
Speaker 8: Phillies playoff game. I showed them on like the sixth inning,
21:55
Speaker 8: and my blood was was going, man like I was.
21:58
Speaker 8: I felt like the hairs on my next and up
22:00
Speaker 8: I was. I want those big situations.
22:04
Speaker 5: I get. I get excited watching guys throw.
22:06
Speaker 8: I've been watching Paddock throw and work on some pitches
22:08
Speaker 8: and I'm just again, hairs are standing up. I'm like, God,
22:11
Speaker 8: I want to I want to start throwing right now,
22:12
Speaker 8: like I want to get out there.
22:14
Speaker 7: Uh.
22:14
Speaker 8: But yeah, watching those those huge innings, it was, Yeah,
22:17
Speaker 8: I'm jealous. Like I it was hard for me to
22:20
Speaker 8: watch some playoff games. My wife wanted to watch them, uh,
22:24
Speaker 8: and I just couldn't do it because I'm just I'm
22:26
Speaker 8: sitting there like just itching to get out there.
22:27
Speaker 4: You know, you have a skit like Paddock. You know,
22:31
Speaker 4: he has a skit where he comes in like a cowboy,
22:33
Speaker 4: pitches the day he comes.
22:34
Speaker 5: To I love it.
22:36
Speaker 8: He does it right now, he says, he's keeping it
22:38
Speaker 8: low key. If I was a starter, I would think
22:42
Speaker 8: about it. But I mean, you have your thing. I
22:44
Speaker 8: have my thing, believer, But you can't do that when
22:46
Speaker 8: you're a starter coming in because you have to last
22:48
Speaker 8: for a long time, right, did it? Every inning the
22:51
Speaker 8: game get sore? The game I started against the Philly
22:53
Speaker 8: is like when I started getting tired in the second
22:56
Speaker 8: in the second, in second after the in between the
23:00
Speaker 8: second inning, in the third inning, I hit myself again,
23:02
Speaker 8: like pitching moscows. He's talking to me about like, hey,
23:06
Speaker 8: you got these guys coming up, and I'm just not listening.
23:08
Speaker 8: I'm just staring at the ground. Legs bounce and I'm
23:10
Speaker 8: just hitting myself. Yeah, I got some issues, but yeah, no,
23:15
Speaker 8: I love Paddocks thing. Man. Yeah I get But to
23:18
Speaker 8: answer that question, I do get jealous, like I want
23:21
Speaker 8: that big stuff, like I want those big outings. It's
23:24
Speaker 8: the adrenaline. It's it's such a drug, man, And there's
23:28
Speaker 8: no better feeling.
23:29
Speaker 6: That, right, Relievers or starters going to the bullpen is
23:34
Speaker 6: maybe one of my most fond memories of being a
23:37
Speaker 6: backup catcher that didn't play, just sitting in the bullpen
23:39
Speaker 6: and watching starters go down to the bullpen and like
23:43
Speaker 6: fidget and then all of a sudden you hear.
23:46
Speaker 5: Lu lu lulu lu lulu, and they're like, it's probably me.
23:50
Speaker 5: I'm probably the one going into the get like relax.
23:53
Speaker 6: How much of a transition or how much did you
23:56
Speaker 6: get made fun of or were you like you have
23:58
Speaker 6: any moments where you were like in the bullpen going
24:01
Speaker 6: like starting pitchers even start yelling at like the fans
24:04
Speaker 6: because they've never been down in the bullpen.
24:06
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, relax, relax.
24:09
Speaker 6: And sixty two days.
24:12
Speaker 8: I think it took me two weeks to transition from
24:14
Speaker 8: that from that role. You know, I had the iPad,
24:18
Speaker 8: I was, I had the notes, the iPad, I was
24:20
Speaker 8: reading everything. You can't do that for one sixty two Man,
24:24
Speaker 8: you're gonna you're gonna fry yourself. You're gonna burn yourself out.
24:28
Speaker 8: So once I got tired after that two week mark,
24:31
Speaker 8: I just put the iPad down. I said, dude, whatever
24:33
Speaker 8: if I get hit, I get hit. Uh, now you
24:36
Speaker 8: throw your best stuff. But dude, I'm yelling at fans
24:39
Speaker 8: all the time. So again, stuff I can't say on air.
24:42
Speaker 8: But you know, like if you're an enemy territory, people
24:45
Speaker 8: people want to get give you their give you a
24:47
Speaker 8: piece of their mind.
24:48
Speaker 5: I give it right back.
24:49
Speaker 8: I don't think they probably should say that, but I
24:52
Speaker 8: don't think they expect you to say anything back. So
24:54
Speaker 8: I just I just let it rip and they just
24:56
Speaker 8: usually they usually just stop, you know, like it catches
24:59
Speaker 8: them so off hard. But yeah, like I think, uh,
25:03
Speaker 8: let's say, like Jansen Junk and like Bozo, their routines, man,
25:07
Speaker 8: they were doing everything.
25:09
Speaker 5: I didn't do a thing.
25:10
Speaker 8: I just stopped doing everything like I would do my
25:12
Speaker 8: basic little couple of eye wash, hip flexor stretches, do
25:16
Speaker 8: a couple of bands. I realized that once that phone rings,
25:20
Speaker 8: Like I said that adrenaline, it's a powerful drug, man,
25:22
Speaker 8: Like it hits and you don't need a warm up.
25:25
Speaker 8: Like obviously you're you're doing your stuff throughout the day,
25:28
Speaker 8: like you take care of your body the right way.
25:29
Speaker 8: We're professionals. But once you're out there, you're out there, like.
25:33
Speaker 4: You when you sit in the bullpen, you seem like
25:35
Speaker 4: someone that might get a little bored at times sitting
25:37
Speaker 4: in the bullpen. Are you a seed flicker?
25:40
Speaker 5: Are you a Yeah?
25:42
Speaker 4: I was the ILF occupied for the first five let's
25:45
Speaker 4: say five.
25:46
Speaker 5: Innings, well, the first three innings, I was the would
25:48
Speaker 5: you rather guy?
25:49
Speaker 4: Uh? And are you are you picking like the wood?
25:51
Speaker 4: You rathers?
25:52
Speaker 5: Yeah?
25:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the dirty mine in the bull coming up there.
25:55
Speaker 4: The most disgusting things you can think.
25:56
Speaker 8: Of, pretty dirty yeah, against stuff. I can't share some
25:59
Speaker 8: some pretty like stuff. It's just like, what are you
26:01
Speaker 8: thinking about?
26:01
Speaker 7: Matt.
26:02
Speaker 8: There's somewhere guys just had to walk away, and I'm
26:04
Speaker 8: just up there thinking of an answer for myself. We've
26:07
Speaker 8: had the Mountain Valley bottles where where we've tried to
26:10
Speaker 8: like shoot a seet into it. You know, it was
26:13
Speaker 8: pretty fun that last ye about an ending before you
26:16
Speaker 8: get tired of it. And then we usually just go
26:18
Speaker 8: down and start making fun of of Beman, our bullpen coach,
26:21
Speaker 8: you know, like we got this this joke in Arizona.
26:25
Speaker 5: There's a water slide. It's the builtmore. Yeah. We just
26:28
Speaker 5: always just we give him a bunch of crailid.
26:31
Speaker 8: I didn't think I don't think he did it, but
26:34
Speaker 8: I just he always felt he kept talking about it,
26:36
Speaker 8: so I just I keep that joke going to this
26:38
Speaker 8: day and we just try to get under his skin.
26:40
Speaker 2: Uh.
26:41
Speaker 8: And then at the end of the day, like I said,
26:42
Speaker 8: I just I just go with the fans. You know, Miami,
26:47
Speaker 8: we got that glass there too behind our bullpen, and
26:49
Speaker 8: they got.
26:50
Speaker 5: Like a bar.
26:50
Speaker 4: So sometimes I think at the end of you then
26:53
Speaker 4: they switched the bullpens at one time, because I probably
26:55
Speaker 4: do know that they put the visitors over there. I
26:57
Speaker 4: heard it was the home was on the other side.
26:59
Speaker 4: I heard it was crazy like borderline, no clothes back there.
27:02
Speaker 4: You know it's Miami.
27:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, it used to be.
27:05
Speaker 4: I remember warming up the pitcher and there would be
27:07
Speaker 4: people back there, and you are like, yeah, well give
27:13
Speaker 4: them for me, brown and give the old rubbing up
27:17
Speaker 4: the ball look.
27:18
Speaker 5: For me, don't worry, Uh.
27:19
Speaker 8: To my wife, I was watching the baseball games on
27:22
Speaker 8: the TVs and the baw all right, and towards the
27:26
Speaker 8: end of the season, I'm an Eagles fan, you know,
27:27
Speaker 8: some of the Birds games were on, so I was
27:29
Speaker 8: keeping track of that. Yeah, I mean, I just it does.
27:33
Speaker 8: It does get a little boring. That's why you just
27:34
Speaker 8: got to be really close with your guys, and you know,
27:37
Speaker 8: sometimes we talk ball. Sometimes we just just make up
27:39
Speaker 8: ridiculous scenarios and just try to have fun.
27:44
Speaker 6: It was, wait, do they not do the I think
27:46
Speaker 6: it was Thursdays where they would have the body paint dancing.
27:50
Speaker 6: Do they not do that anymore? Because you guys are
27:54
Speaker 6: now because that was the visiting bullpen because the home
27:57
Speaker 6: team was too distracted, So they don't do that anymore
28:00
Speaker 6: there in Miami.
28:01
Speaker 8: Yeah, I you know, it's it's a good thing that
28:04
Speaker 8: I got there when I did, because they were not
28:06
Speaker 8: doing any of that. If they were doing that, I
28:09
Speaker 8: I like, it would have been so hard to like
28:11
Speaker 8: lock in. There's there's already so much going on, and
28:13
Speaker 8: people just knock them the glass. You literally feel like
28:15
Speaker 8: a zoo animal.
28:16
Speaker 5: Uh. At that point, I would have like, what are
28:18
Speaker 5: we doing?
28:21
Speaker 4: It used to be when they when they switched the visitors.
28:23
Speaker 5: I heard it. I heard you couldn't even hear the
28:25
Speaker 5: phone ringing half the time. So you know, I think
28:28
Speaker 5: they're they're making some some adjustments.
28:31
Speaker 7: Someone sat there before it and said, what if we
28:34
Speaker 7: build a night club?
28:35
Speaker 4: Like I know, I know the people swimming in the
28:41
Speaker 4: pool that should not be have no shirt on to
28:44
Speaker 4: my plan that I've talked to.
28:46
Speaker 8: I've talked to some higher up, some front like not
28:49
Speaker 8: like baseball ops, but like stadium ops. Why what if
28:53
Speaker 8: we named that club eleven like out there, but I
28:57
Speaker 8: spelt it different than the Miami Club eleven, so when
29:00
Speaker 8: people put the uber in, it actually brings them there
29:03
Speaker 8: and we get more fans.
29:05
Speaker 5: It's a club I haven't been to.
29:07
Speaker 4: Oh good answer, not been there.
29:10
Speaker 5: You've heard about heart. But what if we named it eleven?
29:14
Speaker 5: Out there? So the uber brings them to the wrong place,
29:16
Speaker 5: and now we have more fans. They're not who's gonna want.
29:18
Speaker 4: To go back, you know, espectually to sell where eleven
29:22
Speaker 4: is and we're the new eleven.
29:23
Speaker 5: That's a long ways. They're gonna shay, you know what,
29:25
Speaker 5: there's drinks here, we'll stay here, we'll watch a baseball game.
29:27
Speaker 7: True, that is a brilliant, brilliant marketing idea.
29:33
Speaker 1: The owners at eleven might be a little pissed, but
29:35
Speaker 1: I feel like they're doing well enough that they can
29:37
Speaker 1: handle a few people messing up their ubers and lifts
29:40
Speaker 1: and going to the ballpark.
29:41
Speaker 5: So I like it.
29:42
Speaker 7: I'm all for it. We'll make sure the word gets
29:44
Speaker 7: spread around to try and make that happen.
29:45
Speaker 8: Right, I got, I got a lot of ridiculous takes, honestly,
29:49
Speaker 8: twenty four to seven, So people don't really listen to
29:52
Speaker 8: what I say.
29:52
Speaker 5: It's hard to take me serious.
29:55
Speaker 1: All right, Well, next time we have you on, we'll
29:56
Speaker 1: just quiz you on like your top ten ideas, and
29:59
Speaker 1: that'll be the conversation.
30:00
Speaker 7: This was great, dude, Really appreciate it. Super entertaining. Really
30:03
Speaker 7: excited for you to in all seriousness with with the
30:05
Speaker 7: success you had last year. We'll be watching. Thanks for
30:08
Speaker 7: joining us.
30:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me